💣tarkov-released

[frosty basalt]

No ai

Lighthouse is so easy to traverse

[soft coral]

yeah

because its incredibly small

its just long

[frosty basalt]

Like you

[soft coral]

yes I'm long

[dapper grotto]

[frosty basalt]

🤏

Tarquanisha says to Ivan

“Are you loaded in yet”

“I’ve been loaded in wym”

[low iris]

Me to my friend

He literally as pmc on ground zero had to relaunch his game

And rejoin

[soft coral]

Me with iedy on interchange when the invis player bug was happening

gg

load in
80% of map is invis
OH NA

load in
I can't see him

I'm never getting these 2000 hours I've spent in game back

Good night.

[frosty basalt]

Good night Ivan

[frozen olive]

Oh 2 whole sniper scavs in rock

[foggy jay]

I'm never setting a foot again near that fucking taxi

there's ALWAYS something to bone you in the ass

[frozen olive]

What happened

And yeah it'sa quest objective

[foggy jay]

dude running from behind and killing me

[frozen olive]

@wooden chasm

[foggy jay]

Had the drop on him, but dude, part of the map is a fucking mess, items everywhere, if you a proned there's nothing to do

[wooden chasm]

wtf your stats are worse then me

[foggy jay]

no clear sight on anything

[wooden chasm]

ne af rn

(I look homeless)

[foggy jay]

and of course it's always Lv 51 lv 48 etc with 2600h

[frosty basalt]

[foggy jay]

[frosty basalt]

Embrace the suck

It’s like silent chimera

In my eyes

[frozen olive]

I have 6m Rubles and 12k USD but

[foggy jay]

It's just that Streets is 15min of precautions to be boned out of nowhere

[frozen olive]

Anytime i run anything approaching 200k in kit

I get the funny 160 hours lvl 51 guy

[wooden chasm]

me spending all my usd on g36

[foggy jay]

I need to extract one more time, and I'm not touching that shit again for the next weeks

[wooden chasm]

[frozen olive]

Spawn naked and go for courtyard

camp if open until 7 mins and bail

it's how I did it myself

[frosty basalt]

Honestly

[frozen olive]

Ruined House also works

[frosty basalt]

I would just camp marked rooms

💀

With or without bringing the key

Take out some competition

Then it’ll be safer to extract

[wooden chasm]

guess whos camping green screen

shit ill take that

[frozen olive]

Honestly

I know it's never safe to extract anyways

Even with 30 to 40 mins raids

There's that one rat

[wooden chasm]

i mean

yeah

I wait till like

5 mins

since i evac camp

but usually in the 10-5 min range

[frozen olive]

It's just very annoying

cause it just takes too long

[uncut coral]

the woodsblaster

[wooden chasm]

lmao

[frozen olive]

and dying at extract is the equivalent of never playing again

[wooden chasm]

I mean

at least you arent the victims of my d2 camping

sitting with a impact and ks23

[frozen olive]

Man, I'd hate that

I never carry nades

So I never "pre-clear"

I find it a waste or rubles

[wooden chasm]

I always do

[wooden chasm]

A dude tried to

swing me

and it failed horribly for him

[frozen olive]

Yeah I only have class 3 armor

so I might as well run naked

Grats Grok

[wooden chasm]

class 3 is scav repellent

thats about it

[covert narwhal]

[soft coral]

https://youtu.be/asiCBl2JUYI?si=trUHS2OFFJGz5HvA

I remember this raid

why was there a lonely pmc wandering in the middle of the road with 12 minutes remaining? Nobody knows

[covert narwhal]

idk he probably forgot to bring in splints or painkillers and had a fractured or blacked leg

[soft coral]

probably

[foggy jay]

MP9-N is fucking BONKERS

holy damn, no recoil

[uncut coral]

it's beautiful

[foggy jay]

Now on my way to scav reserve for a tank battery for prarpo

9x21 is depressing though

Prapor LL3 vs Peacekeeper LL3 is laughable

[frozen olive]

just better to run PP19's for what Prapor sells

unironically

Russian MP5 for Rubles

[foggy jay]

MP9-N is better

27k on flea

1100RPM no recoil

but the current armor situation is kind of depressing, if you hit the plates, you won't kill anyone

so it's basically spray and pray

[covert narwhal]

RIP my beloved

[foggy jay]

yeah the more I think about it...

[frozen olive]

Plates need to take damage on non pen

they really fucked up there

[foggy jay]

but you need 22 pen at least

[covert narwhal]

they don't take damage on non-pen? thats crazy

I didn't even know that

[frozen olive]

yeah plates take 0 damage

[covert narwhal]

leg meta on top fr

[frozen olive]

if you can't pen

so you can unload 30 shots on someone's chest

and it'a all absorbed

[foggy jay]

I mag dumped 30 9x21 PE in the chest of a guy

[frozen olive]

and blunt dmg is mega nerfed

[foggy jay]

he was still kicking strong

[covert narwhal]

that sounds frustrating lmao

[foggy jay]

got 21 hits

[frozen olive]

irl plates take like

5-10 non pen shots

and after that point they're "compromised"

According to the NIJ ratings, level 4 plates should stop the six hits of spaced M80 ball, all 5.56 threats including M855 and M193 that level 3 is rated to stop. Additionally, level 4 should defeat at least one round of armor-piercing . 30-06 Black Tip.

https://youtu.be/YLKdodAUwsM

P sure he's shooting FMJ

and this is like Class 4 basically

so basically 1 FMJ mag should probably kill you plate or not(if all hits land)

https://youtu.be/JZbC5tltQYE

[compact knoll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd-TMMOxMWo

i live how the chinese say

UY

UY

[frozen olive]

Who was it who couldn't run streets

https://youtu.be/ZPlCf8e0p9g?si=FOe46WPhOV-lFfbA

[compact knoll]

i have 40 fps on streets with the low res mode

same with other maps really

[frozen olive]

Abuse Gigabeef's video

He hasn't steered me wrong yet

Tldw

"Tarkov's Shit"

[wintry ridge]

yeah but this game takes liberties for alot of stuff

[compact knoll]

hey froge

[frozen olive]

Yeah, I just think Plates shouldn't be titanium rated

Class 6 makes you invuln

[wintry ridge]

well then helmets and armor would be near useless

[frozen olive]

(relatively speaking)

[frozen olive]

What i want is just that they take durability damage when tanking a shot

instead of 0 dmg on non-pen

[wintry ridge]

yeah that sucks rn

the fact that if the ammo isn't on the same tier as the plate it takes like 1 damage

thats fucked

[frozen olive]

and all high tier ammo is quest locked

or extremely expensive/workbench 3 craft

[wintry ridge]

I think thats good ngl

[frozen olive]

yes and no

[wintry ridge]

high tier ammo should be crafting locked

[frozen olive]

It basically means sweaties just roll over

[frozen olive]

Yes

Ideally anything class 4+ is crafted only

and traders sell class 3+

that way you force chads to spec into 1 thing

[wintry ridge]

unlock it via a quest or get lucky and find some leaflet on crafting it from a high tier loot spawn

[frozen olive]

but yeah low class armor don't really matter since the aramid is lvl2

so like

2 SP shots kill you

or 1 from a SKS

1 at neck through a Kirasa for example

or 2 through thorax around a plate

and class 3 aramid full body is like, worthless without class 4-5 plates

XD

[wintry ridge]

bsg needs to do a golden pass or whatever its called on most of their features

work on ammo types and guns and get em balanced to usable stats

[frozen olive]

SpT realism has better hitboxes than tarkov

and that's a mod

it has a lot of stupid decisions

but the detailed hitbox is suprising

[wintry ridge]

armpit should be chest hitbox but only like 0.5x damage multiplier

its fucked how a scav can just pop an HP round at you and instakill you thru the best armor and face shield

[frozen olive]

Look at this jeff

https://youtu.be/tNmhu-sXIkc

they do that multi plier dmg thing

lol

[wintry ridge]

yeah i already seen it

its pretty good

spt has alot of features that bsg should def add

def need an item bag for plates

[earnest timber]

They wont 'cause "It breaks muh TOS"

[wintry ridge]

yeah they say that a ton

[frozen olive]

What, like them saying random banneable offense son twitter?

where no one seems tem?

or on a random russian stream?

"yeah if you drop your buddy a zabralo we ban you"

[wintry ridge]

I get what they mean by that tho

[earnest timber]

Ban the cheaters

[covert narwhal]

very nice

[wintry ridge]

devils advocate but the armor drop thing was just so people dont sub to the streamer JUST for armor drops

[earnest timber]

Not people who """carry""" their friends

[wintry ridge]

which is still rmt

[frozen olive]

Yes but also, the fact it came down to that shows how fucking stupid they are

[wintry ridge]

you can still drop ur buddy armor and guns n stuff

[earnest timber]

"IM OUT OF AMMO, GIVE ME A SPARE MAG"
Banned

[frozen olive]

Like, alot of BSG/EFT things are very un-friendly

Even to streamers

Labs, Bitcoin 3, LK, etc

Quests that are like

Setup, or Zone Quests

[wintry ridge]

if bsg wants to prevent streamers from finishing the game in like 4 days

they just need to add time-locks on later quests

[frozen olive]

Like these are supposed to be "Side quests" too lol

[wintry ridge]

thats the only way that they could possibly make it take any longer

[frozen olive]

Honestly yeah, do the 24hrs thing like Light keeper

Past like LL2 of rep amount

[wintry ridge]

obv not for every quest

[frozen olive]

Mechanic does it for gunsmith later on

[wintry ridge]

doesn't have to be 24 hours either

[frozen olive]

Nah just for like "sequel" quests

[wintry ridge]

4 hour wait time after doing signal pt 3 or whatever

[frozen olive]

Yeah Signal part 1, then 2 and then wait 4 hours for mechanic to do his thing

Etc

Still

[earnest timber]

"" I shouldn't be punished for effective questing ""

[wintry ridge]

it'd also pace the quests better than turning in 4 quests in a row because you collected all the items 20 hours ago

[frozen olive]

BSG is idiotic since they neuter all olayerbase w streamer changes

I miss Pre-fir flea where you could buy your gas-an

Either be more lenient or add more crafts for shit lol

[wintry ridge]

dont worry, they'll just punish the timmy by making them need to kill 10 more pmcs than they had to last wipe.

[foggy jay]

Wait what it’s coop

[uncut coral]

I mean, I can "run" it, it just doesn't feel good when

[foggy jay]

You mean gamma is accurate ?

[uncut coral]

most maps are 100+ fps and streets is a janky mess in some stores etc.

the consistency just isn't there

[compact knoll]

an altyn shouldnt be tanking m80s man

[wintry ridge]

i think he just spawned in scavs with the AI turned off

since u can adjust like every part of the server/game

[foggy jay]

Yeah helmets are overpowered in gamma I know

But NPCs are too static and easy to headshot

And guns are too accurate and low recoil

[compact knoll]

can you even do armor zones in gamma

in xray engine

like make the visor have less armour

[foggy jay]

it's already the case

eyes and jaws have less armor

[foggy jay]

small reserve scav run

looking for tank batteries but no luck

[compact knoll]

he doesnt know that the evasion armband is 20k

[foggy jay]

virtex is 215k

[compact knoll]

you need it for quests

i wouldnt sell it

[foggy jay]

Yeah that's right

it leads to unlocking a barter trade for T5 armor with rig at peacekeeper LL4

[dapper grotto]

seriously what is up with the suicide dudes on factory

me and my friend had like 3 of them for the last 4 raids

[wintry ridge]

cheaters lowering kd

[lucid junco]

sniper

[compact knoll]

found this as scav on lighthouse

brother do you know what showering is?

[wintry ridge]

@compact knoll put it in the thread

also post images seperate, its so ass when they try to put em in a collection

[compact knoll]

i cant be bothered

just the fact

[white void]

SPT coop??

[wintry ridge]

spawned AI but yeah spt coop is real

[white void]

Dms rn mister

[gray compass]

Found an old screenshot of mine from the time when i was just starting out
Why the fuck did i bring in 2 bottles of water and a sugar with me?

[compact knoll]

this is my first screenshot

[gray compass]

god damn you were doing pretty well

[compact knoll]

funny funny guy

it used to take me 10 min to load in a game

and that was when the raid started when the first guy loaded in

[compact knoll]

https://twitter.com/LogicaISoIution/status/1752333434046050516

LogicalSolutions (@LogicaISoIution) on X

#EscapeFromTarkov ** SEW IT GOOD - PART 3 , BUFFED **

YOU NOW HAVE TO OBTAIN TWO 6B13 ARMORS INSTEAD OF 6B43 ARMORS - THEY MUST BE FOUND IN RAID HOWEVER.

Twitter · Jan 30, 2024, 2:10 PM

ayo

less go

[rich venture]

Grok ur such a massive chad that you're level 25 without having completed delivery from the past

[gray compass]

loothouse provides

[frosty basalt]

Nice

[compact knoll]

What the fuck is that ak545

[gray compass]

rogue clearing

hence the 3x-12x scope

[compact knoll]

I heard the "fixed" the rogues tactics

Or some shit

Do they not all rush at you now

[gray compass]

they never did

they just camp the roof

and ground rogues only rush you if you provoke them

otherwise they just hang around

ffs

why is the ultima top rail a jaeger 3 item

but the furniture is jaeger 2

am i supposed to hip fire that shit

[gray compass]

camping traders is so boring tho

[wintry ridge]

they fixed them by making them a pain in the ass to kill again

roof rogues sit on roof and kill you from 300m away again

even if you aggro em they dont come down

[frozen olive]

Broo

💤

I fucking hate it they're perfect recoil at 300m

they should just supress you, not instant snipe you with a reflex

[fathom maple]

so they substituted the goons with random cordon bandits with 100% accuracy on their toz34s

[earnest timber]

AI is the biggest hurdle the devs need to overcome for the game to remain succesful

They're so rudamentary and bullshit

[wintry ridge]

true that

[stark torrent]

And audio

[wintry ridge]

the game could be SO good if they just fixed how bad the AI and audio is

its not even like a bug if its 24/7 always broken

[stark torrent]

The mechanics and gameplay are on top i agree

Too bad i dont see them getting Ws on those fronts still

[earnest timber]

RAM cleaner only works when you press save in the settings

no wonder my pc crash on streets

[wintry ridge]

i really think if EFT was actually polished it could be the best shooter of the decade and prolly longer even

[soft coral]

and map balance

[wintry ridge]

i hope the coming extraction shooters this year force them to address issues faster

[fathom maple]

i dont want to sound repetitive but , as like other games , only way to assure that is to crack down on cheaters and that can be difficult

[wintry ridge]

since now they'll have actual competition other than dark and darker or some call of duty game mode

[fathom maple]

they have to cut the rmt trades somehow

or just make a god dam hardcore mode where you cant trade

[wintry ridge]

they need valorant tier anti cheat for that

but idk if they have the time or the funding

[earnest timber]

They fucked over regular players more than RMT/carry service traders with the Anti-RMT changes

"You gave a zabralo to your friend? fuck you get banned!!"

[wintry ridge]

nooo this is just wrong tho

[fathom maple]

dont blame the solution , blame the problem if those lowlifes didnt do it in the first place or there was no actual incentive to do s

so

[wintry ridge]

atleast do it right

[earnest timber]

https://hub.sp-tarkov.com/files/file/1662-ram-cleaner-fix/

[fathom maple]

it might not be a good one but at least they tried

[earnest timber]

Common SPT W

[fathom maple]

and with the new map , even with reduced loot quality , you can have a somewhat true feeling of what the game could be

[strong hinge]

bannt

[fathom maple]

as cheaters wont bother on that one

[earnest timber]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brother1984-1984-big-brother-big-brother-is-watching-you-george-orwell-gif-24454773

Modders trying to give solutions to various problems in the game, what does Nikita do?

"nyet game fine, get ban"

[strong hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-gif-11012754

[fathom maple]

they just pour more vodka onto game servers until they fix themselves?

[strong hinge]

worked fine so far

[stark torrent]

It triggers when u press esc in raid, thats why sometimes u lag like shit

So u dont lag in raid

[earnest timber]

What if i don't press ESC throughout the entire raid?

[stark torrent]

Then the ram piles up

You can do 3 4 raids then if u press esc in the 5th you will lag a bit when u open the menu

Or a bit more lol

it will mimic crashing

[earnest timber]

Can't it just clean up RAM little by little so it doesn't lag like hell?

[stark torrent]

No cause this game explodes

You will lag in raid randomly and shit on bsg once more

[earnest timber]

Yeah 'cause this game suffers from chicken wiring

[stark torrent]

Real and true

Coded by russian browser devs

[earnest timber]

Just how i like my slavic games

[frozen olive]

The one way to sidestep this is 30 to 1 min match load/start

Literally fast load times would kill a lot of tarkov annoyances w ai

But they woyld still be a piece of shit

[foggy jay]

Now I'm 26 and I have prapor LL3

But LL4 will be hard because I'm finishing Required Materials soon but it won't unlock anything

so I will just put my P90s and MP9Ns to good use on Customs and Factory

I want to try 9x21 PE Gzh leg spam as well, curious about how it will perform

[frozen olive]

How much are you hating the grind

[frozen olive]

Honest answer? not good unless it's rip equivalent

blacked limbs only transfer 17% of damage

so if you both start firing at the same time you'll probably drop first

[compact knoll]

Man if you need help with delivery to the past, you got the whole tarkov channel here to help you

Just ask

[next temple]

Just a tip: do it at night

[frozen olive]

dont do it at night

Insomnia is a thing

and night drive

test Drive*

[uncut coral]

test drive is no longer with reap-ir

[compact knoll]

Honestly

I kinda liked it when it was with reap ir

[uncut coral]

me too, man

[earnest timber]

Until you lose it

[compact knoll]

Usually didnt take more than 3 deaths

[foggy jay]

https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/1ag79tm/can_someone_explain_this_to_me_821_raids_0/

821 raids of chained death. Then that dude will start wiping lobbies with aimbot

[wooden chasm]

There is a dude with a 113 kd

Nikkta doesn’t care 💀

[foggy jay]

he will get banned

[wooden chasm]

he’s still on today

[foggy jay]

people just need to report them when being killed

but yeah it's crazy that cheaters are now preparing accounts for cheats

I don't know for how much such an account will go

but for sure some people just buy EOD accounts > Bot chain deaths > Sell EOD "ready to cheat" accounts for a good amount of money

then cheaters buy those and start wiping lobbies, hopefully not getting banned

but if players report any kind of suspicious cheats, he will go poof

Got a lv51 banned that head-eyed me out of nowhere when I was playing as scav. He most likely didn't think I was a player, too bad for him eh. Most likely several people reported him. His stats were clean.

[foggy jay]

I'm still motivated to hit lv40 to try MP7 with 40pen rounds

[foggy jay]

thanks, might do. Will try to solo it though. Tried once only and failed

I still want to do stuff like "The Door" on streets before. I'm not much interested in prapor inventory tbh

LL4 has Korun but that's it

[wooden chasm]

EOD account’s are much more expensive now tho

getting one is probably going to be not worth it

soon enough

[foggy jay]

Depends on the cheats used I guess

[fathom maple]

just about to start my first raid in 4 years but first thing i want to do is report that guy you posted

any way to do that?

[uncut coral]

no

[fathom maple]

yikes

oh well

[foggy jay]

https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/CQC_Osprey_MK4A_plate_carrier_(Protection,_MTP)

That's my objective, unlocking the barter trade for that armor

140k for full tier 5 with nice rig and T3 arms and neck protection

Almost done with the tasks. I "just" need another virtex + comfd > more reserve scav runs I guess

[compact knoll]

I would do lighhouse for these items

Scav/pmc

[frozen olive]

Issue w tis one is finding a key

Also running stashes can net you the items

[foggy jay]

yeah I know. Everytime I spawn in the mall I go check the key spot and it's not there...

[foggy jay]

Didn't play lighthouse since ages, no clue where I should find these

[compact knoll]

https://tarkov.help/en/map/lighthouse/

[foggy jay]

Merin Car Trunk Key seems the play right here

then go south road by the playa and pray

[frozen olive]

I'm p sure it's bugged

cause none of my friends found it

also iirc, it's probably on purpose cause the Door gives uh

30k exp?

[fathom maple]

Fuck i survived my first raid but i kept pressing X to run like in stalker and i kept going prone

[next temple]

You can rebind it

[fathom maple]

at what time did scavs start to appear?

[stark torrent]

after 2 days of work for inspection and zero tarkov

I have returned

However my insurance peaced out yesterday

May god fuck therapist in the ass

[frozen olive]

may therapist meet therapist

[foggy jay]

took a break during work:

The answer:

Just crunch the numbers:

• Bitcoin farm 1 costs 1 519 370 ₽
• Intelligence center 2 costs 1 267 440 ₽
• Intelligence center 1 costs 358 213 ₽
• Security 1 costs 29 017 ₽
• Security 2 costs 100 518 ₽
• Vents 1 costs 25 000 ₽
• Vents 2 costs 280 595 ₽
• Generator 1 costs 115 112 ₽
• Generator 2 costs 381 814 ₽

That's 4 077 079 ₽ + one GPU at 800 000 ₽, that's 4 900 000 ₽ give or take.

Now how long does it take to make 4 900 000 ₽ out of the bitcoin farm?

If you take fuel in consideration, that's 146 361 ₽ net profit per day, with one GPU.

After 33.5 days you start earning money.

Now consider that you can loot GPUs with your PMC and stick them up in your secure container. Let's say you get 9 like these and because you are bad, you die and can't extract with them and sell them on the flea: they all sell for 124 740 ₽ to Therapist. Congrats, you just earned about an extra million roubles.Now let's consider you put these in your bitcoin farm instead, this brings the daily profit of the bitcoin farm to 271 226 ₽, but let's say now you need to cover 6 000 000 ₽ including the GPUs you sold at therapist. You start earning money after 22 days. And that is, every day, even if you don't play.

Average wipe length is 182 days. Let's say you get your bitcoin farm with 1 GPU up after 40 days (veeeery slow). That's still 108 days to profit from your bitcoin farm, aka 13 471 920 ₽.

Now let's say you are "quick" and get your bitcoin farm with 10 GPUs after 40 days. That's still 120 days to profit from your bitcoin farm, aka 32 547 120 ₽ of net profit.

Everything is based on tarkov.dev values.

Not investing in the bitcoin farm is an "early wipe" mindset, aka play for 25d and forget about the game.

As everyone is progressing in the wipe, it's harder and harder to get out with "mid" gear. You need the top of the top to be able to compete. This is done through leveling, but also through money, to be able to actually not care at all about your gear, always focus on the best gear, care less about the looting and more about the PvP. And that's exactly what the bitcoin farm allows you to do because while the "no hideout" people had a 6 000 000 ₽ advantage (which is like, 1 week of scaving), at the end of the wipe the bitcoin farmers will have MUCH more money.

And I didn't even get into actual profitable crafts you can spam + pure water crafting + your skills progressing which reduces the fuel costs. All the calculations I did were taking into account the fuel cost, which itself is more than reimbursed by the water distillation alone which itself generates 586 000 ₽ of net profit every day for an extra investment of 2 119 341 ₽ which is covered in 4 days.

So down the line, if you consider Water purification + bitcoin farm 1 with 10 GPUs, up and running after 60 days of wipe (again, VERY slow), you could have made a profit of about 8 200 000 ₽ in that time, or make 857 000 roubles every day for the rest of the wipe and pay the dept back in only 10 days and profit for the rest of the wipe.

bro wasn't ready

[soft coral]

ain't reading allat

[stark torrent]

you are confusing grok for Falco be careful

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1053996613816815656/1194942192393912340/image0-5.gif

[warm echo]

basically

[stark torrent]

i build the hideout because i like min maxxing and i already have 40 mil and almost max hideout anyway at this point

like....who cares

[warm echo]

lotta dosh

[stark torrent]

once you get the basics of making money in this game

it's only time you have to invest

thats all

[earnest timber]

Not touching the hideout is basically asking to be shot on the foot

[stark torrent]

ppl saying hideout is expensive are shit at the gamei guess

only thing that is stupid expensive is the standard account stash upgrade

[soft coral]

you don't use the cash for anything else other than kits anyway

there is no reason Not to make it

literally zero

[frozen olive]

Legit Im having XIV marketboard flashabck but isnt this in essence a daily cushion of about 1 mil for gear, kits and deaths?

Which ends up in better overall geae, more pmc play and less scav farming?

[foggy jay]

Imo it's mainly about: do you want to get money while playing something else to then buy super good gear for your runs on Tarkov imo

without having to scav etc

[frozen olive]

Yeah, passive income cushion

[foggy jay]

Exactly

Because early on anyways, you can't buy shit

[frozen olive]

I would like it more if I didn't have to hit lvl 30 personally

but that's just me

[foggy jay]

and you can spend insane amount of roubles on ammo and armors you'll most likely loose because of how random the fights are currently

[foggy jay]

well imo that's the interesting part

[frozen olive]

for (me) lvl 30 is already "endgame" since lvl 40 is "the end" (for me)

I feel it would be nicer at lvl 20

[foggy jay]

usually whenever I have 40mil in store + lv 36 just spamming the same gear over and over with maxed traders, there's nothing much to do

[frozen olive]

since like the exp from lvl 20 to 40 is like fucking runescape, as much exp from lvl 1 to 72 as 72 to 99

[foggy jay]

There are tasks for good barters now, so that's some extra stuff to do

but basically, you get M80 and Osprey Protection and you are good to go till the end

[frozen olive]

Yeah the tasks are nice, except the kill Y at X zone with Z Weapon

(Cough, Gendarmerie)

[foggy jay]

Like for real, why would you play anything else than M80 or 4.6 FMJ + Tier 5 armor with Lv3 body and arms protection with a good rig built in for 140k RU

[frozen olive]

Realistically? if you're going tasking or for PvP? there's no reason to use anything else at all

Which is.. boring? to me

[foggy jay]

yeah that's the issue imo

you start running the same meta stuff where you pawn anything that has lv4 armor in few body shots, vs lv 5 is headshots luck / having the drop on all over again

[frozen olive]

Hm I think this is an issue of like

Imbalance?

Like there's literally nothing that comes close to meta

and running "worse" kits beyond drip reasons or money is just not worth it I guess

it also makes fights a lot harder if you're questing

[foggy jay]

Money ain't an issue tbh

[frozen olive]

Yeah that's what I mean

[foggy jay]

but also, once you have that, why would you quest anyway

[frozen olive]

if you're dropping 200k on a kit

[foggy jay]

that's the main issue here

[frozen olive]

just spend 400k

[frozen olive]

I would just change the current EXP curve

[foggy jay]

like you hit lv40 and have your T5+T3 armor + good gun and ammo for relatively cheap, why would you do quests

[frozen olive]

and rebalanbce trader LL's to have 2 or 3 earlier

but 4 be way later and harder

[frozen olive]

Kappa or ultra niche things

which are not worth it at all iirc

Bitcoin 3 is like not evne that good no?

and I remember the Solar Power maths were like

"yeah it takes 200 days to pay off" or something like that

when it was first introduced

there's some lvl 50+ quests now, which to "efficiently reach" needs questing since regular pvp/playing is 2 to 5k exp at best

[dapper grotto]

leveling becomes extremely easy post 46

the daily/weekly scaling is hilarious

[foggy jay]

yeah I heard you can get 400k xp from certain tasks

[dapper grotto]

weekly's are anywhere from 220-500K xp

dailys around 26-40K

[foggy jay]

meanwhile at lv 25 the same task will be 48k xp for a weekly

[earnest timber]

No XP scaling around your level for weeklys is hilarious

[dapper grotto]

yeah they realy need another tier on the scaling bar

cause the one betwen 35-46 is absolute ass

[foggy jay]

most retarded shit ever

who codes that kind of crap

like what's the fucking gamedesign decision behind that

"ok you played enough to be lv46+ now you have the easy life since levels mean nothing anyway"

[dapper grotto]

dont ask what kind of game design questions when it comes to BSG it will only give you pain

[frozen olive]

20-30 kills me

[frozen olive]

6400 euros what the fuck

[foggy jay]

up to*

[dapper grotto]

also item rewards get insane aswell i had black card last wipe for one of mine

[frozen olive]

we should have like

5-15, 15-25, 25-35 then 35-45

with like the first 2 brackets being "hideout" stuff mainly

[earnest timber]

there are thousands of thing in the game that has questionable game design choices

[earnest timber]

One huge outlier is the over-reliance on third party apps and websites

[frozen olive]

Grok are you adding dailies and exp levels to G*mma?

[earnest timber]

why are you censoring gamma lol

[frozen olive]

Regarding this, BGS says they fucking hate it so often

offtopic joke

[frozen olive]

and that they also refer to the wiki, but they hate how much it "details" things

[dapper grotto]

the visionTM

[earnest timber]

Okay then add things that somewhat explains what you gotta do?

some subtle clues?

a better ingame map

that you can put in your special slot?

a better direction on quests?

You knoow

sensible game designs?

[frozen olive]

You know what's funny about this

even the ingame texts doesn't really tell you jackshit

[frozen olive]

SPT Mod, got it

[earnest timber]

No it's all flavor

[frozen olive]

the only one that's sorta understable is the dorm ones, cause some tell you the room number

[earnest timber]

Yeah, why can't most quest description be like that?

[dapper grotto]

my absolute favorite for this BS has to be lightkeeper with his items

and the almost 20 fucking spawns for it

[earnest timber]

Game is unplayable without the Wiki

[frozen olive]

there's that one in Streets to hit all ambulances for a phone

https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/Ambulances_Again

which is

[dapper grotto]

dont forget that you ALSO have to take the car once you have it

[frozen olive]

oh that's right

💀

[wraith wagon]

if the car extract name isnt it red that means its stil there right?

[frozen olive]

yeah

if it's green someone is taking it

[dapper grotto]

depends on the map some maps have a chance to not spawn it

[wraith wagon]

just got out🙏

[frozen olive]

[foggy jay]

just do a goddamn formula with somewhat unlinear scaling according to level

caps are the fucking worse and should never exist for stuff like that

[foggy jay]

There's no such things as "levels" in gamma and that's the beauty of it

there's the skill system, which is just placebo mostly

[frozen olive]

When are we getting Elite Skills

XD

[wooden chasm]

When are we getting flea market and lockbehind items from traders

[frozen olive]

We already do!

It's called supply lvl!

[stark torrent]

literally lazy design and you can see that with scav quests as well

they hyped up scav quests only to be insanely dogshit

like , find out 15 ammos stacks, you get 0.02 rep and 86 euros

nice

superb

and thats a doable one

you have those with like kill 15 pmcs , get 0.04 rep , 560 euros and can of peas

such lazy design

[rough sphinx]

Mine usually involve capping other scavs.

[frozen olive]

I've the kill PMC's from 50 meters with headshots

for 60 euros

at rep 3

[frosty basalt]

Scav quests shouldn’t exist tbqh

Don’t reward scav gameplay

I’d get rid of them based on that principle but obviously BSG put time and effort into it and aren’t willing to scrap it

So at least make them fucking doable by the average player

Some of these scav quests are actual aids

[stark torrent]

Scavving has its ways imo and helps with progression a ton

It could simply be fixed by nerfing their loadouts at low rep + spawn timer

Start of wipe my scav had class 4 armor and a full auto ak , ez

[frosty basalt]

In my ideal tarkov people don’t main scav

[stark torrent]

make it less profitable and maybe ppl wont

right now , you spawn so early in raid it's a win

you lose nothing, can gain everything

@foggy jay when thermals in gamma

would that even be possible?

[lucid junco]

no more suffering on reserve for shooter born kills

[covert narwhal]

rocking the RFB 🙏

blessed gun

[lucid junco]

taking a break from bolties to get punisher pt 4 done

then back to shooter born

then proly punisher pt 5 or grenadier

so yeah the RFB stays on during punisher

[frozen olive]

Then there's no recovering

[frosty basalt]

Other changes would have to be implemented along side such a sweeping change like scav nerfs

Don’t make bottoming out be so harsh for pmcs

IMO mosins should basically be free

With the new ammo changes

Same with like a shitty little rucksack bag 3x3

This really only helps low levels and new players

These changes wouldn’t affect anyone level 15+

[stark torrent]

APM got removed from flea

Gornasty is finally kill

[low raven]

WHAT

NOOO

STOP LYING

PLEASE NO

HE ISN'T LYING NOOO

I just stocked up on pp just incase

[covert narwhal]

SERIOUSLY?

[soft coral]

TARKOV HAS FALLEN

I was willing to overlook everything going on

but apm being banned

No.

it's over.

[foggy jay]

There’s already a thermal scope mod

Thermal googles sorry

Completely imbalanced

[foggy jay]

The incarnation of why I don’t play lighthouse

[foggy jay]

Hey imo you can’t save your most important loot in safe container

Every time I have a GPU has scav it’s stressful

As a PMC I don’t give a damn, this goes straight in my ass, can even die right after I won’t complain

What’s crazy is that I’m playing reserve as scav like I don’t give damn, just walking in the middle of the largest streets. If I do 1/5th of this as a PMC I get domed instantly

Cheaters are everywhere to some degree imo

[earnest timber]

The playerbase is not ready for giving away their secure containers

[foggy jay]

No idea imo it’s a good idea

I would rather nerf scavs and keep containers

Or rather, just remove the flea market

[soft coral]

nerf the space containers hold

[foggy jay]

Tarkov without flea and more sensical hideout upgrades would be so good

[soft coral]

Tarkov if it was actually good would be so good

[foggy jay]

Also no more FIR bullshit

That shit is designed solely because of the flea

[soft coral]

well yeah

[foggy jay]

Remove the flea, no problem whatsoever

[soft coral]

how the fk does the flea even work lore wise

[foggy jay]

Remove the flea, make more crafts and a better craft interface. Remove half the timers on crafting.

Game fixed

No flea means much less prevalent RMT aka less cheaters as well

[earnest timber]

https://youtu.be/vTVP24wTSFE?si=f15rW2GyFvtG0u4N

[compact knoll]

I feel like it would be the opposite

Since you cant buy items

[gray compass]

just make non fir items be sellable on flea

like before they made it only fir

what the hell is this gun

[wintry ridge]

it would def be hte opposite

"welp, can't buy these gunsmith items i need for my task, guess i'll just buy em someone to drop em for me"

[native crypt]

Wouldn't be a bad dmr if he had the 20rd mag and some good ammo

[gray compass]

i mean why put a decent scope on an sks

[native crypt]

It's fun and if you got it why not use it

[gray compass]

just

use an akm

[native crypt]

Akm is a better choice but it's fun to use different guns

[upbeat lark]

sks has 0 recoil

[white void]

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-pinkman-jesse-pinkman-crying-jesse-pinkman-screaming-jesse-pinkman-andrea-jesse-crying-gif-25171987

[white void]

Uhhhhbbb funny computer with either porn hub + ebay or funny giant scav hideout that is a no shoot zone for the flea

funny

[wintry ridge]

i'd bet its just sending ur shit to fence with the flea fee and he takes that little cut

or ragman

[white void]

or that, yeah

[wintry ridge]

since you'd make a shitton just mediating sales instead of making em urself

[white void]

probably ragman + Fence working together for a black market honestly

Ragman handles the logistics and whatever while fence just gets the buyers

[nimble plaza]

im a huge fan of flea removing but traders need a massive overhaul first

but id be down with a limited version of flea

remove attachments and ammo alltogether

make it so you should be able to buy any gun, traders mostly for being able to run them with plates, ammo, mags, attachments

[low iris]

DAMNNN IM GOATED!!

he made me get gear fear again goddamn

i literally ran up on him with a glock C

tons of gear but almost no rub

[white void]

So sell it

[low iris]

no

im gonna use it

[white void]

[swift solar]

don't you just love getting disconnected in the middle of the street after a 20 minutes raid and getting killed before you reconnect

[fierce turret]

scav on scav violence is the worst

i have 5 bolts like why are you shooting me

[swift solar]

for the 5 bolts of course , duh

[fierce turret]

mf was that desperate

[fierce turret]

tv-110

[low iris]

welll i went in with a full auto glock only lol

literally love the 50 round drum

[stark torrent]

yeah pretty much, need to remember this is a game and you dont have to be punished every inch of the way lol

sometimes finding a ledx and puttiing it in the ass cna make up for 3-4 stupid deaths

[foggy jay]

Just make gunsmith task use traders stock

[wintry ridge]

idk that just feels lazy

other than making it barter trades only for the gunsmith parts

[foggy jay]

Gunsmith tasks shouldn’t even exist

[wintry ridge]

they should be fir mainly or on flea

[foggy jay]

Could be FIR gun + barter trader parts

But Gunsmith alone precludes doing 80% of mechanics tasks

I’m at gunsmith 13 or so and I have already max needed rep

[low iris]

who should i turn in the chemical van quest to

[wintry ridge]

uhh

let me check

therapist gives injectors case

2 ammo cases from prapor

1 nade case from skier

i'd prolly do therapist

you can just avoid repaying skier if you want

prapor just wants m67s

non-fir too

[low iris]

i have a inejctors already

[wintry ridge]

ammo cases are like 200k each

nades like 300k

injectors can go for way more right

[frozen olive]

Really? fucking pathethic lmao

[low iris]

next wipe ill choose skier

but therapist was too loving

[wintry ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1180383992332177488.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

alright buddy

try not to lose everything this raid

[low iris]

is there any quest locked if i don't?

[wintry ridge]

nope

it just lowers ur rep a bit

but like maybe 1-2 quests will counter it

[compact knoll]

Too bad half of them require a specific item

[frozen olive]

Or are LL4 trader items

Lol

[gray compass]

worth it?

[wintry ridge]

would

[frozen olive]

Jarger rep? Yeah

Go factory to sie 15+ times or a map you know

[wintry ridge]

tbh just go uhh

[gray compass]

590 is yucky

no muzzle devices + ugly anim

[wintry ridge]

shoreline or woods

slap a scope on there and run slugs

[frozen olive]

Yeh

[gray compass]

first time going to lexos

[wintry ridge]

nice gun

I wish they'd make more of the tan attachments similar colors

they're just all slight shades off

[compact knoll]

When paint blyat

I want to paint my gun mm14

[wintry ridge]

when can i paint my m4 with the blood from scavs

[stark torrent]

drippy scar

[gray compass]

theres like 2 pistol grips that go with most tan guns and theyre garbage

same goes for m4 handguards

and we need a tan 30mm scope that doesnt change your sensitivity

[fierce turret]

https://youtu.be/kDUJ4XLKZ0s

[gray compass]

what the hell is that audio

[fierce turret]

so many scavs

they all shoot and the game audio bugs

[gray compass]

lol

thought it was offline with horde mode

but its not

why am i not surprised that he has an asian name

[frozen olive]

Wheb L96 Dragon

[wintry ridge]

making my m4a1-s hyperbeast in tarkov

[gray compass]

[frozen olive]

would be cool

also, the M1911 with Silencer is un-usable lol

[wintry ridge]

yeah

they def need a .45 osprey

[frozen olive]

at a more reasonable price

the 45 silencer is obscenely priced

[wintry ridge]

and some other 9mm supressors that aint the size of a wd40 can

[frozen olive]

Ilusion 9 is very reasonable

but also very expensive

[gray compass]

stocking up for the alpha dog barter

[frozen olive]

Salty

[stark torrent]

[frozen olive]

Hello mr Birb

[soft coral]

Iedy

I know him

[brittle sinew]

Damn I love the HPC

So incredibly light

[native crypt]

good for sniping but i cant stand small armors for cqc

good for questing too

[brittle sinew]

Exactly

[soft coral]

Imagine running armor

just dont get hit

[brittle sinew]

I wouldn't use it in CQB ever, gotta have that soft armor

[brittle sinew]

Or use it for fighting scavs, armpit buckshot hurts

[brittle sinew]

That's what I do tbh

[native crypt]

i include that with questing

[brittle sinew]

Depends on the quest tbh

And usually you can snipe a scav and relocate without getting shot at

[brittle sinew]

Like the millions of snoreline quests I have atm

Plant shit, find shit, gtfo

[native crypt]

true

planting the beacon in the medical stuff in the sanatorium courtyard

[brittle sinew]

I did that one yesterday

Took me 3 tries because I got blasted by xiaobaodong the first two raids 😬

[soft coral]

Classic

[brittle sinew]

Resort isn't even safe at night anymore

[soft coral]

resort is never safe

youre playing shoreline

you should know better

[stark torrent]

not worth using

it has literally all the gaps you dont want

HPC is a plate donor armor , take the plates and put it into a kirasa or smth

or an armored rig like the RBAV or shit

sad cause HPC was my main armor during FLIR runs , so light and reliable, too bad with the armor rework they killed most of the vests

IRL you can add additional pouches and areas to plate carriers + you can wear then underneath your / main battle rig for extra protection

But in Tarkov we dont have that

[brittle sinew]

It weighs less than 500g

I'm sold

[stark torrent]

well not if u rush it instantly because everyone goes night to quest mostly

[brittle sinew]

Which I didn't

[stark torrent]

with what plates

[brittle sinew]

Without plates of course

I dont even think there's a plate that weighs less than a kg

[stark torrent]

why would u wear it without plates ?

bro the thing has no internal armor

if u have no plates, it's naked

[brittle sinew]

Who said I did

[stark torrent]

alo

ah you mean it's base weight is 500g

[brittle sinew]

Yes

Alright I checked and it weighs 1.330kg with class 3 prtctr plates

[frozen olive]

We need plated rig + plate carrier, or give rigs aramid versions

[brittle sinew]

Said plates weigh 430g each

Again, I use the armor for questing and sniping exclusively

I wear other armors for everything else

[stark torrent]

i can see your reasoning i guess

indeed it is super light and only 34k empty

[brittle sinew]

Exactly

[stark torrent]

im trying to find an alrenative but i cant tbf

[frozen olive]

Trooper

[brittle sinew]

For reference a PACA weighs 3,5kg

[stark torrent]

4kg empty

[brittle sinew]

And the HPC with class 3 plates weighs 1,3kg

[frozen olive]

Hexgrid?

[stark torrent]

it has class 2 inserts but still no plates

[brittle sinew]

Same story, weighs more, same protection

Also costs more, like the trooper

[frozen olive]

Ah

[stark torrent]

lets say you use monoclete class 4s

1450kg each

it's 3kg

hpc with class 4 back and front

thats good

[brittle sinew]

That's also good, better served for sniping in that case

For questing, the class 3 plates have done me well

If I get into an encounter, I just run faster than the opponent could ever dream of

[stark torrent]

houdinni strat

[soft coral]

Houdini

I know him

[brittle sinew]

Also very useful for looting, with the current weight system

[stark torrent]

honestly, a bigger issue would be the bullshit scavs that would spot you from 300m

and shoot you through a gap

[brittle sinew]

That does happen, can't lie

However at said range, it doesn't one tap me

Still fucks me up though 😬

[stark torrent]

as always with BurgerStateGames, they implemented a feature halfway through

i swear they might implement more changes to the armor system but ofc they didnt finish the job so yeah

like adding soft spots yourself or shit

or they might call it a day

im sad cause they made 70% of the armors useless

[brittle sinew]

Yeah making the entire thorax basically a one tap zone was so stupid

Getting shot in the armpit =/= getting shot in the lung

Unless it's a through and through, then you're double fucked

[lyric cairn]

Yeah I was about to get into Tarkov again, killed 3 PMCs and as I was looting one a scav came up and shot me in the armpit and I died instantly. Called it a wipe right there

[pearl quartz]

[stark torrent]

[pearl quartz]

Achievement unlocked: Welcome to Tarkov

[stark torrent]

god's loadout

[pearl quartz]

Need one scav headshot for daily

[frozen olive]

Legit strat btw

[pearl quartz]

I work all weekend so trying to get little stuff done

[frozen olive]

I've had people out run me in the 6bfbfbbf

and just turn around and blast me as they reload around a corner

[pearl quartz]

I fumbled

hit pmc 4 times and missed my nade, repeeked and he had moved somewhere and shot me

had it in the bag

raaaaaa

[pearl quartz]

@stark torrent god didn't like me

[stark torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/new-vegas-god-fallout-we-cant-expect-god-to-do-all-the-work-gif-21038212

[low raven]

I GOT A FUCKING RSASS FROM AN AIR DROP

HOLY FUCK I WON'T SUFFER

too much

[pearl quartz]

how make game look better

feels eh

[brittle sinew]

You don't

[pearl quartz]

[brittle sinew]

Not even a meme, tarkov graphics suck ass

[pearl quartz]

need better visability

[brittle sinew]

You can either have FXAA ultra sharpness to see people easier that looks like absolute shit

Or you can have TAA vaseline where you cant see shit, but it looks kind of nice

[earnest timber]

Tarkov does NOT look good on 1080p

[pearl quartz]

want

[earnest timber]

plus all the shitty filter it uses

[brittle sinew]

Looks even worse on 4k I tell you what lmao

[earnest timber]

They need to integrate Amand's Graphics

[brittle sinew]

They're too proud to do that

You know it wont happen

[brittle sinew]

Set FXAA on, crank sharpness up

Mess with post fx, try in offline raid

Or look up a youtube video, they give more info than anything could here

[earnest timber]

I only use POSTFX Colorfullness and Lumasharpen to 100

[brittle sinew]

I don't, still do pretty well in spotting people

Especially when anyone past 50 meters becomes a black silhouette

[low raven]

40k tarkov when

and no, I don't mean 4k

[frozen olive]

Isn't this bad on your yees

eyes*

because sharpness+200

[earnest timber]

Lumasharpen is very light on sharpening

• with Sharpen set to 1.0 its perfect

At least on 1440p DLSS

[frozen olive]

mm

I'll try

[brittle sinew]

God damn customs sucks so bad now

Everyone is doing setup

[frozen olive]

Why

[brittle sinew]

The pvp sucks, I kill someone and all they have is a shotgun and ushanka

[low raven]

omg someone was doing setup in lighthouse wtf

[wraith wagon]

probably punisher p4

[brittle sinew]

I hate that they make those weapon specific quests tied to certain maps

I'd love to do shotgun quests on a map like factory or interchange

Not shoreline, like in spa tour 1

[frozen olive]

Btw @earnest timber how much you know about screens?

[low raven]

what would a red tracer be again?

[frozen olive]

Red?

5.39 I think?

[earnest timber]

Depends

why

[frozen olive]

asking cause mine always shows certain kinds of dark/Black kinda foggy

[earnest timber]

Guess your monitor doesn't have good contrast

[compact knoll]

closest i can think off is x54

and bt but thats orange

[earnest timber]

They are really scared of superior graphics

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-patrick-you-are-scaring-him-stop-patrick-stop-it-patrick-you-are-scaring-him-spongebob-patrick-gif-23995388

[strong hinge]

bannt

[frozen olive]

Hm, would you say increase it or lower it?

[low raven]

545 bt or 76254 bt?

[compact knoll]

545

[low raven]

someone stole my loot from my kill

[compact knoll]

i think thats 54 bt is red

[low raven]

545 bt is was green, wasn't it?

[compact knoll]

not sure