🔨base-gamma-support

[brisk zinc]

WHO TOLD YOU THAT

[charred rivet]

idfk i mentiuoned it above somewhere

1 sec i'll just move it

[brisk zinc]

You CAN have it on the SAME drive

BUT

They need to be in different folders

[graceful iron]

just dont put them in program files and they need 1 folder EACH

[brisk zinc]

This too

No Program Files, no Desktop

C:\STALKER G.A.M.M.A. RC1

Something like this it's fine

As long as you don't put it inside those directories everywhere is good

[charred rivet]

i just dragged the folder into my hard drive

it's moving rn

[brisk zinc]

Okay, let us know when you're finished

[brisk zinc]

Open installer?

[charred rivet]

ooof forgot it was open

[graceful iron]

this is an example . dont mind the OGSR its just there with them

[charred rivet]

i fixed the error

[nimble axle]

what does GAMMA Exo Balance actually do?

[graceful iron]

exo stalkers cant spawn south

i think

could be a exo skeleton balancing for the player

idk

[charred rivet]

ok it's done

it's moved now

[graceful iron]

okay

[charred rivet]

won't complete or update

[graceful iron]

you will need to reset up mo2

instance

paths

[brisk zinc]

At this point I think he can just delete everything and start again

He didn't downloaded anything

[nimble axle]

is it differen't from Grok's No Exo in the South? @graceful iron

[charred rivet]

Oh thank god ty

so much easier

[graceful iron]

oh nvm then thats a rebalance not a stalker spawn

[nimble axle]

got it. thank you!!!

[brisk zinc]

Well NOW it's easier, you had the thing on two different hard drive

[graceful iron]

you can take a look at what it does

[charred rivet]

correcton, hard drive and ssd

xD

[brisk zinc]

Yeah yeah I know

@charred rivet at this point do this:

• delete the entire GAMMA folder
• extract GAMMA again
• extract the update inside your GAMMA folder
• follow #old-how-to without the part about updating your installer and/or ask if you need anything

[graceful iron]

just go read through the install steps carefully instead of correcting "2 hard drives" to "hard drive and ssd"

[nimble axle]

sorry for the stupid question, but how?

[graceful iron]

mo2 and look for its config file

[nimble axle]

ok will do. thank you again

[graceful iron]

sorry cant help with where exactly

dont know where

[nimble axle]

it's ok i found it

changes prices, weights, and battery consumption

[charred rivet]

does this go here

[graceful iron]

[charred rivet]

the portable text?

[brisk zinc]

No

[charred rivet]

where does it go?

[graceful iron]

next to mo2

same folder as mo2

[charred rivet]

ok

question

[charred rivet]

would it be bad if that was in my ssd

[brisk zinc]

?

[charred rivet]

mod organizer

[brisk zinc]

I'm not following you

You already have MO2 installed?

[charred rivet]

mod organizer in ssd, game and mod in hard drive

[charred rivet]

yes

[brisk zinc]

Oh okay

[charred rivet]

been had it

for a long time xD

[graceful iron]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-face-palm-seriously-exasperated-gif-7304550

[brisk zinc]

I don't think it's a problem

We can try but again it shouldn't be a problem

[graceful iron]

dont use the installed one . if its on another drive it should be fine

[charred rivet]

i clicked update without thinking ugh

[brisk zinc]

Close the installer

[charred rivet]

how do i find out where mod organizer is?

i forget where i put the files

[warped ginkgo]

just put everything in the ssd

it will end up being faster for instalation/game launch

[graceful iron]

you can uninstall it in the apps section of settings

[charred rivet]

that would hurt all of my games

[graceful iron]

oh

[charred rivet]

fallout 3 and new vegas ect...

found it

i just add it here right?

[graceful iron]

add what?

no

[charred rivet]

portable text file

[graceful iron]

bro

did you watch the install video or read through the install steps?

[charred rivet]

portable.txt

yes reading the steps

i didn't know there was a video till 1 dude said there was after grok said video will be soon

[graceful iron]

go to where you just put the GAMMA RC1 folder

[charred rivet]

so i'm confused if there's a video or not

[graceful iron]

its literally in #old-how-to

[charred rivet]

so it goes in there then?

[graceful iron]

yes

[charred rivet]

i did that before

but the 1 dude said that wasn't correct

[graceful iron]

there is a mo2 exe file there

put the portable text next to it

[nimble axle]

whenever someone has a chance (not pressing) what mods would I need to turn off in Mo2 to play without WPO and without creating any glitches to my overall GAMMA experience?

[charred rivet]

like this?

[charred rivet]

mine isn't like that yet for some reason

[graceful iron]

there is no mo2 in that

[charred rivet]

and idk why

[wind forum]

you went inside the installer folder

wrong folder

[charred rivet]

ohhh 1 sec

[graceful iron]

wont exactly be the same till you install

[charred rivet]

no it's not

[graceful iron]

mo2 exe and a portable text file

[charred rivet]

it's the main folder

[wind forum]

lol

yes you are

i can bet you a million dollars

[graceful iron]

.

henry

stop

[charred rivet]

no because i just checked, i haven't installed yet

[graceful iron]

go back one

folder

[charred rivet]

can't

[graceful iron]

.

[charred rivet]

ugh

i followed the steps this time

i deleted everything and installed the new launcher

and that's it

i never touched the old launcher

[graceful iron]

this is what it should look like

you only put the "grok's modpack installer"

you need this whole thing

watch the video

in #old-how-to

#old-how-to message

[charred rivet]

i know what i did wrong

[graceful iron]

and what is that?

come on even vans managed to install it correctly without any errors

[rotund moss]

hmm in my self proclaimed quest on finding the best, most consistant route for the start i have encountered a few "funny" things in Cordon.
First was a pack of 8 Pseudo Dogs killing most of Rookie village, next up was a full blown raid by the military, then 2 blood suckers attacking, a controller who got killed pretty fast - to late for my avatar, who was just putting on his jacket (note that all of this happend not even 2min after a fresh start as a loner, every encounter was on a different start) and now 2 Pseudo Giants.
Any Idea what causes thies spawns? Its basicly lore that at least one Controller and one Bloodsucker have a realy rare spawn chance in SOC (i think you can encounter a bloodsucker in every game within the first 5min if you know where to look and get "lucky") but Giants, in Cordon?
Also i thought that the mod "No Exos in the south" was active, but i watched Mercs dueling it out with Military, in heavy Exo suits and Exo skeletons. (which i could loot, with scavanger lvl 1)
I never done it, but restoring to the default user.ltx would not help right? (no i have not done that - yet)

[graceful iron]

zcp is your mod

[charred rivet]

i reinstalled the installer and followed everything even with the text file

it's the same

[graceful iron]

[rotund moss]

is it optional, so can i just deactivate it?

[charred rivet]

am i supposed to type shit here?

[graceful iron]

it was optional till recently

[graceful iron]

no

thats a progress bar

[charred rivet]

then i followed everything

don't know what i missed this time

[rotund moss]

@charred rivet did you download the full installer pack, or just the updated installer version?

[graceful iron]

please

watch the video

[charred rivet]

Just the updated 1 because o thought it came with everything

ya know

[graceful iron]

its 10 minutes

[charred rivet]

because

[warped ginkgo]

when you click WPO in mo2

[charred rivet]

it's updated

[warped ginkgo]

a lot of reds may appear

check the names of those red addons and see if they are patches to wpo

[charred rivet]

where's the full installer

[rotund moss]

@charred rivet download the very fist version, in my case the updated installer did not have the needed files with it, after that you can replace the installer exe with the updated one, now tell your Antivirus to leave everything the fuck alone and try again

[graceful iron]

#old-how-to message step one

[rotund moss]

^^^^there^^^^

[charred rivet]

i did that

i copied the link my browser and installed it

and launched it

[graceful iron]

you took the installer folder out of the main folder

[charred rivet]

after making the text file ofcourse

no

i didn't

[graceful iron]

you need the main folder to

[charred rivet]

i installed to 1 folder

[graceful iron]

in the screen shots

[nimble axle]

@warped ginkgo thank you! i'll try that

[charred rivet]

does it naturally wanna go to MO?

[graceful iron]

it should be c drive >gamma rc1>

[charred rivet]

no

it's on my hard drive this time

both are

[graceful iron]

any drive

[charred rivet]

all 3 should be on my hard drive

there is no other folder

[brisk zinc]

Jesus Christ I even told him he need both of them

[graceful iron]

download that

[charred rivet]

i lost the 1st one and couldn't find it

[graceful iron]

help my head hurt

[warped ginkgo]

did you watch this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZpeaH2D9pw

maybe it's useful for you

[charred rivet]

ima just watch that brb

[graceful iron]

i am questioning this person's intentions now

seriously what are you trying to achieve ?

giving people mass headaches ?

[rotund moss]

before anybody gives okay_cat129 anything im just here for the last 8min and i can feel the mood, also the video was mentioned like 3 times by now xD

[brisk zinc]

Don't worry, I know everything

I'm trying to help too

[graceful iron]

4 i think

even more if you count before grok gave up and went to sleep

[warped ginkgo]

the only solution

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/659572006576193546/757347904749961317/image0.gif

[graceful iron]

dying would cost less

[charred rivet]

ok can i have both links for the full installer and updated 1 pls in order

[graceful iron]

installer

[charred rivet]

i'll just find it out

[graceful iron]

.

#📢announcements message update

[warped ginkgo]

honestly no idea how it is now, i just installed gamma when it was a closed beta and just run the installer now xd

[wind forum]

is he an alt of vans?

[nimble axle]

is there a way to clear the binding on a key rather than replace it?

[wind forum]

jk probably

[obtuse rune]

If you know the one you're looking for you can open the user.ltx

[charred rivet]

ok i'm basically copying exactly what he does

i'm sorry for being anoyying

haven't modded in a long time

[nimble axle]

thx @obtuse rune

[rotund moss]

to be honest it tookt me 3hours to install, until i finaly remembered how to tell my antivirus to shut the fuck up and leave it alone, without turning it off (it would just destroy gamma otherwise since it doesnt like it)

[nimble axle]

This worked. Removed WPO and WPO related mods from my load order and removed the Z key find for unjamming from my binds (since pressing Z without WPO loaded would crash the game).

now everything is working perfectly. thanks all!!!

[rotund moss]

btw i get massive frame drops from Fruitpunch anomalies, any method to improve that from my end - without playing in potatoe mode?

[graceful iron]

you can disable the shaders or change graphics settings

though i am not sure what exactly you would want to change

[wind forum]

would it be likely that one of those hidden packages be under water?

[rotund moss]

the graphics dont seem to effect them, and i am not feeling smart enough to fiddle around with the shaders

[graceful iron]

just press home and untick all of them. you can activate them through a preset if you want them later

shaders

[rotund moss]

i found one of them in a pile of junk, they seem to be handplaced so, maybe?

[wind forum]

oh i see

i'm in the great swamp

so water everywhere lol

[graceful iron]

mostly in bushes

[rotund moss]

they usualy in bushes in the swamp, at least on my test runs

[graceful iron]

under objects

[rotund moss]

just keep your RF-thingy at hand and run towards the beep while holding down the F key

[graceful iron]

if the beeping starts to speed up stop in your place and listen to it to find out which direction

[charred rivet]

@graceful iron Is it fine if the 2nd 1 stays in a folder?

or does it need to be out of it?

[graceful iron]

this is fine from the video tutorial

[charred rivet]

ok

[graceful iron]

the video is accurate

[charred rivet]

i'm doing the same thing but leaving that in a folder

[graceful iron]

just remember. whole vid is accurate

dont skip anything

[wind forum]

wait i thought it's getting louder?

arghhh i haven't really found some place where the beep speeds up

[rotund moss]

it gets louder first then faster

[wind forum]

ohhhh

somehow the ones from missions and from hidden package sounds differen

but i think i found it

[rotund moss]

so i wasnt imagining things?

[wind forum]

oh lol

phew

same

[rotund moss]

anyways in both cases you start to hear MORE beeps, like your RF-thingy tries to declear that Gork and Mork are the only gods out there

declare*

ffs i cant english speeds of on a Gaaru

[wind forum]

ok so for hidden packages, you get louder base beep, and will also get a higher pitched beep as you get nearer the target

and the higher pitched beep will also get its own faster rhythm

hope it helps

[pure scarab]

is there a way to increase the download speed on the launcher?

or installer

[charred rivet]

what i'm dealing with rn aswell

[pure scarab]

ikr

i want all my intenet on it xD

[charred rivet]

it's not how fast you can download

it's how fast there server's let you download

[pure scarab]

F

i guess the PC is staying on for the night

[charred rivet]

probably gonna take all night tbh

[vivid basin]

hey i got the basic nvgs from shakarov and when i long press N my character pulls them down and i get the nvg noise but not the actual nvgs

the lamp part of the nvgs works fine but not the nvgs themselves

am i missing something

[charred rivet]

do they have battries?

[vivid basin]

yes

bar under it is full blue

or is it that only the lamp part of the nvgs has battery but not the nvgs themselves ?

surely it would be shared right ?

[wind forum]

it should be shared, yes

[vivid basin]

hmm

i am wearing an exohelment if that makes any difference (but it shouldn't since i tried with and without a helmet)

[wind forum]

shouldn't

i use an exohelm too

[vivid basin]

then i'm very confused

[molten tartan]

It's a known bug. Save and load and the NVG should work again. You might get a crash when saving

[vivid basin]

oh huh aightio

hard save and hard load ?

cause i'm pretty sure i quick save/reloaded in the meantime and it didn't fix it

i'll have to test that tommorow

tomorrow

[molten tartan]

save or quicksave doesn't matter

[vivid basin]

alright i'll try that out

thankies

[summer sandal]

what happened to the mutant bleeding?

[nimble axle]

hey GAMMA NPCs can't see through foliage is default disabled. Is there any reason? Is it OK to turn this back on?

[gentle tulip]

Groks opinion on it. Pretty much you can but it can make the AI stupid

[nimble axle]

ahh that's a good point. rather it be annoying/harder sometimes than make the AI full stop dumb.

[short gulch]

Does 'grass' count as foliage for stealth purposes?

[wind forum]

i don't think it does for the most part

unless you enable the npc cannot see through foliage mod

[edgy venture]

which mod heals you when you nearly die? For instance i'll be shot and bleeding to death but if im in a firefight i somehow have a miraculous recovery.

[stark trail]

Has the Outfit Attachment Overhaul addon been implemented already?

[wind forum]

nope, it'll be in rc2

[ivory comet]

Mechanic repairs suit to max dura and the parts too, is this a bug?

[nimble axle]

hmm... do you have the G.A.M.M.A. Armors Repair Like WPO mod active? If so, seems like it might be a bug, but I'm fairly new to the mod and don't know for sure.

[delicate wharf]

I think it will be changed in the future but currently that works just not super intended

its still cheaper to repair by replacing components if you have the kit and mats

[acoustic timber]

Will there be plans to introduce a Renegade storyline?

I am very interested in something like that happening as I feel Renegades are the most under the radar faction that has heaps of potential

[charred rivet]

I got the mod to work

but why does it crash every time i put it in 1920x1080?

[jovial niche]

anyone else having a situation where they are finding upgrade kits in stashes that when you take the stash...the kit(s) seems to vanish and not appear in your inventory?

[desert robin]

Any way to increase the Fog for the foggy weather?

Trying to make it more foggy, so it's really thick with limited view

[warped ginkgo]

i dont think so, nobody is working on new quests

[charred rivet]

This is the highest i can go even though my monitor is 1920x1080

[warped ginkgo]

1920x1080 16:9 is down there

[charred rivet]

it doesn't even put it in pending, just crashes the second you click it

[warped ginkgo]

What does the crash log say?

[charred rivet]

how do i check?

[willow hawk]

Nope

[warped ginkgo]

Stalker/appdata/logs/xray.txt

grok should put a bot in the server to say that message in a command

[willow hawk]

I plan on making extra extra expensive

[warped ginkgo]

Go to the bottom

End of log should be información

[warped ginkgo]

Is that after the crash?

Grab the log after the crashes

Dont launch It again

[charred rivet]

uh

[willow hawk]

Change it using the launcher

[charred rivet]

can't anymore

it works just fine now

[charred rivet]

Wish i could

sometimes i see that option sometimes i don't

no idea why

[midnight shard]

press here

[charred rivet]

ok ty

[warped ginkgo]

Click

Yea

[willow hawk]

Otherwise you can take GAMMA user.ltx, open it, edit the resolution to 1920x1080, and replace the one in Anomaly/appdata folder

[hexed gale]

Is it possible at all to 'field strip' armor in order to repair the individual components, or can you only replace them with better quality parts at mechanic benches?

[north turret]

Jesus christ what happened here while I was asleep

[proven thorn]

If I get the "Cannot open as archive" error for any mods while installing, should I re-run the update?

[north turret]

are you installing manually or what

the installer runs automatically

for gamma at least

[proven thorn]

Like this

[north turret]

it says done at the bottom

[proven thorn]

Right, that error was midway through, not sure if I should run the thing again

[north turret]

were you installing gamma or updating gamma

[proven thorn]

Updating

[north turret]

no clue I never got that while updating

[proven thorn]

Ran it again, no archive issues, but I got a bunch of errors about dl.html

[north turret]

You allowed powers hell scripts right

[proven thorn]

I had, must have been reset
Update finished successfully both times, so I guess it's fine

[north turret]

you need to have it on

#old-how-to
Step 4

[proven thorn]

Definitely having a different issue, guess I'll just try reinstalling the thing

[ivory comet]

Are there any compatible mods where it lets me craft multiple things before exiting the crafting UI?

[proven thorn]

I figured it out, moddb hit me with the bot ban

[north turret]

gj

[proven thorn]

[charred rivet]

is this right?

because it's already between them

This is the mods that are activated, Only 1 with 1 red cross and it's not activated

[delicate wharf]

pretty sure that is just an example

[charred rivet]

it says if mods fall into the optinal seperator i shouldn't activate them

do i deactivate these?

If addons number fall in the optional separator, don't activate them. About 220 addons should be active.

[north turret]

they're

OPTIONAL

The modpack will run without them

[charred rivet]

ok

[charred rivet]

I know what optional means

[delicate wharf]

the instructions don't say to deactivate mods

so you shouldn't deactivate them unless you specifically don't want them active

[charred rivet]

trying to figure out why garbage crashes my game

it's a map

[delicate wharf]

have you looked at the log?

when does it crash?

i see you posted in #old-bugs , what mods are at the bottom of the load order?

[charred rivet]

when i go into the loading screen it loads alittle bit and then crashes, i then load the save going to garbage right away and crashes repeatly

[charred rivet]

All disabled

[delicate wharf]

...

[charred rivet]

even the 1 with a red cross

it's been like that

[delicate wharf]

k that looks correct

[charred rivet]

garbage is the only problem rn

here i'll load it up and get an error again

@delicate wharf

Missing sounds

i tried updating tho and followed groks directions

[delicate wharf]

I would double check that you have the entire mod list expanded in mo2 and that no mods have a red x box like the hd icons in your one screenshot

[charred rivet]

ugh

i checked that multiple times

only 1 x

and it's not toggled active

this is red tho

[delicate wharf]

red just means another mod in the list overwrites part of it

[charred rivet]

do i have to toggle off newly updated mods and update them manually?

[delicate wharf]

no

wait

if you find mods in the updated section of the mod list because the version downloaded from moddb is newer than the modlist in gamma. You drag the mod up to the right place and enable it and disable the older version that you had before

so if you have duplicate mods enabled that will cause problems

For reference the mods that I find that file in your log from are these:

[charred rivet]

there is none in the updated section tho

not for me anyways

[delicate wharf]

yes you sent that screenshot before

I am just double checking that you didn't somehow drag mods up and enable duplicates sometime before

[charred rivet]

i just started playing today

playing for hour's and this started to happen

[delicate wharf]

did you check the screenshot I posted.

[charred rivet]

Finally fixed my game and installed it around 6pm

the 2 patches?

[delicate wharf]

that is where the file from your error is so yes those patches

specifically zzz_

[charred rivet]

so do i remove the top one then?

[delicate wharf]

just screenshot

I showed mine now show yours

make sure they look the same

[delicate wharf]

looks correct

[charred rivet]

do i update gamma instalation? it took like 5 hour's before and i fell asleep

does it use already downloaded files and add missing files or does it reinstall everything over again?

[delicate wharf]

it only downloads new ones

I would definitely check the option that checks for complete downloads etc

[charred rivet]

ok

it seems to be doing that

and is updating rn

did you read what they said to you in game? did they give you a loacation or direction from somewhere?

near the starter town in cordon?

@delicate wharf fixed it btw and ty

Haven't gotten far in the story yet so idk tbh

do you have your detecter out?

it should beep the closer you get to it

i understand

[delicate wharf]

I had 1-2 quests in this line that had similar issues. I would try googling mission descriptions etc to see if you find something

[charred rivet]

@delicate wharf small question, do allies shoot you for looting there kills?

[delicate wharf]

not by default

there is a mod that some people play with that does that

[willow hawk]

JSRS activated ?

[charred rivet]

is this responding to what was going on awhile ago, or what i just asked?

[willow hawk]

It's in Garbage I guess

It has been translated using Yandex

A rewriting should be made

[charred rivet]

@willow hawk This what you talking about?

[willow hawk]

Yes

[charred rivet]

then yes

[willow hawk]

Actually no

[idle trellis]

does this modpack have the grok repair and overhaul addon

[charred rivet]

ooof

[willow hawk]

Check gunplay if all add-ons are in correct order etc

[willow hawk]

Yes and much more tweaks to crafting

[idle trellis]

hell yea

[charred rivet]

everything in gunplay is ticked off

wait no

i meant toggled on

so yes

it's on

[desert robin]

Hey Grok i am curious, have you gone through the lists of **all **mods for anomaly on moddb manually and checked them all for anything that would be cool to have in GAMMA? Or do you just add the ones you know of or hear about?

[idle trellis]

alright so i check mo2 and most of the addons have the red cross

when i do step 6 it just says that gamma is up to date

[wind forum]

you click update data and then update installation

[willow hawk]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/groks-anomaly-community-curated-add-ons-list

I have pretty much studied every addon on moddb since 2+ years

So yeah I have been browsing the entire moddb

• added recent cool addons

I'm not maintaining that list anymore btw since GAMMA takes all my time now 😦

[desert robin]

Awesome thanks man

[vivid basin]

Can you use a vice for free if you get on good relations with a trader or faction ?

[proven thorn]

You can use toolkits without needing a vice

[willow hawk]

Yeah vice aren't useful anymore. Right click any toolkit > use

[vivid basin]

oh shit fuck yeah guess i just need to updeate

[molten tartan]

Any news on the approximate ETA for RC2?

[slender berry]

Thank you for all the help yesterday @graceful iron I forgot to say it and that was rude of me.

[vivid basin]

just tried that and it didnt work man

i'm on dx8 maybe that's what's causing it ?

[wind forum]

doesn't work on dx8

according to beef nvg page at least

[vivid basin]

ah zebiiiii

i'm cucked

Then is there a way to get nvgs without using beef ? Cause otherwise i'm pretty much fucked

[willow hawk]

NVGs works without beef yes

It's just that beef shaders really renders in game how NVGs work IRL

Most accurate NVGs in a game to date

https://tenor.com/view/rq-yay-rq-yes-cat-rq-rq-yes-yes-yes-gif-20226294

[vivid basin]

so disable beef nvgs and use the built in nvgs of like exohelm ?

[willow hawk]

?

[vivid basin]

yeah man i'm so sad my pc is a potato

[willow hawk]

Beef NVGs is just effects

NVGs are in the game

Beef changes how they look like

And base game NVGs work properly

[vivid basin]

ohh ok so just disable beef nvgs and voila ?

[willow hawk]

It's just that they don't look very good

Well

Yes and no

[vivid basin]

as always hehe

[willow hawk]

You have Enhanced Shaders and Water SSR ?

You must disable these ones as well

And if you have a potato, try disabling JSRS and all JSRS related stuff

[vivid basin]

If they come built in with gamma then yes

alright

[willow hawk]

Enhanced shaders and water SSR are in visual

Untick these + untick Beef NVGs

And delete shader cache folder

(in anomaly/appdata folder )

[vivid basin]

very well

@willow hawk can't find water ssr

do you mean glossy surface ?

Alright it works

but holly shit you were right those nvgs look like shit god dayumn

[willow hawk]

Yes

[ivory comet]

Am i the only one having trouble in gun fights? it takes me 20+load last saves to win a fight, I thought maybe because the game is on hard but i played anomaly and other stalker games on hardest difficulty aswell

i think the biggest problem i have is...i cant spot the enemy

even if its interior cqc literally 5-10 meters infront of me, im having a hard time spotting stalkers

[proven thorn]

There's a zoom function on the side mouse buttons I've used a lot

[ivory comet]

i know i suck at the game, but could it also be because of...shaders? or something that changes the color

[blissful tree]

Yeah the AI in Gamma actually have guerilla techniques ngl, they're great at ambushing and it's worth having companions more than loot mules.

[proven thorn]

Lowering the FOV might help too, I run around 70

[fresh fiber]

You can try to play with the luminosity options or turn off reshade to see how it goes for you

[ivory comet]

for example i fight mercs at army warehouse and I have the hardest time spotting them even if they are clearly infront of me with no bushes to hide, its weird

[blissful tree]

It's not just about seeing them but they're definitely smarter than in vanilla.

[ivory comet]

maybe i need to get glasses

[blissful tree]

Tougher to outsmart them as well.

[north turret]

you do realise that "other stalker games" are vastly different from anomaly in the way they function

in their shooting mechanics

especially in gamma

where you need to use the correct ammo

otherwise enemies will tank hits

[ivory comet]

I understand, I played misery and groks ballistic tweaks on anomaly before Gamma, I been there where i thought buckshot is enough for armored monolith XD

[north turret]

well

[ivory comet]

@fresh fiber is it possible to turn shader off completely?

[north turret]

yes.

press home

and turn them off

[fresh fiber]

Page Up turns it on/off if I remember well

[ivory comet]

How i die now is not because of bad ammo or enemy too tough, its literally because they would appear to me and i...cant really see them? i dont know how to explain qq

[north turret]

uhhh

game is darker yeah

increase contrast or something

there is a shader that allows brightness and contrast to be increased

I use it cuz I can't stand dark games

[ivory comet]

ill try that

ok i did the same fight a few times and it helped

i think its probably because of my monitor or me eyes XD

thanks for the help @north turret@fresh fiber@proven thorn

[vivid basin]

what's the keybind called ? cause i don't have it on my mouse

[torn hollow]

Hey - was looking through the troubleshooting tab, but still can't figure out this issue: I get CTD when I start a new game. Any suggestions?

[north turret]

guessing your mouse does not have those 2 buttons on the side then

[vivid basin]

nah

so is it called zoomed view in the options ?

[stark trail]

Go to your <game's file>/appdata/logs and open the "logs" text file.
Go to the bottom.
The error text may give you some clues.

[vivid basin]

(not on the game rn so i might be asking dumb questions)

[warped ginkgo]

it doesn't appear in game keybinds

[north turret]

idk actually I never used it

[vivid basin]

shite

[warped ginkgo]

you need to edit the script itself

[vivid basin]

where is it located

[warped ginkgo]

it's inside GAMMA keybind fixes

called freezom.script or something like that

[vivid basin]

alright

[torn hollow]

thanks, fellow Dude (haha). I'm starting with a fresh install - if it persists then I'll loop back with any log insights.

[vivid basin]

replace dikkeys with the key i want ?

[north turret]

with whatever is comfortable yes

[vivid basin]

do you know what the name of mouse 3 is ?

or do i jus type mouse_3 lol

[north turret]

you mean the wheel button?

[wraith knoll]

did all swearing and other profanity was removed from mod? or i'm missing something?

[worthy quarry]

Hi, Is there any other solution to download all mods? Its Taking me too long thru the automatic installer, thanks

[north turret]

theres 230 mods bro

you're not expecting a 5 minute install are you?

[worthy quarry]

Its Taking 2 days 😂

[north turret]

uhhhhh

maybe you got blocked

[worthy quarry]

My internet Speed Is fine

[north turret]

moddb has this thing where it blocks users if you try to download a lot of mods too quickly

a bot fail safe so to speak

[worthy quarry]

Thats bad

When downloading stop, i Close the installer And start again

[vivid basin]

yeah

or any button at all

[paper whale]

I would stop for now and do it again in 3 days.

[vivid basin]

surely y can just be y but mouse_3 is probably something else

[paper whale]

or one day depending how punishing moddb is.

[north turret]

mouse 3 is middle mouse button and that's used for quick melee

so

no

[rocky cradle]

the quest from noah in zaton "benefactor: clear out a mutant lair" is somehow fucked for me.
I went through the teleporter anomaly and killed a bunch of snorks in the cave but I think one of them might be on top of the hill (its out of bounds)..

Is there a way to complete a quest with debug?

[blissful tree]

Maybe you can noclip up there.

[obtuse rune]

Pretty sure noclip requires debug

[blissful tree]

Yes, that's what they asked.

[obtuse rune]

Ah I misread, thought it said without

[blissful tree]

[icy nebula]

Do traders sell higher capacity backpacks at some point?

[rocky cradle]

how do i noclip tho 🤔

[winter gust]

demo_record 1, fly up to wherever you need to go, then press enter to teleport

[rocky cradle]

thanks!

i managed to finish the quest, thanks for the help!

[willow hawk]

You need to craft them

[modern fern]

Just downloaded the driver and i'm not seeing nether of those options in the control panel. I do have the RTX

[cedar raptor]

https://zerogott.s-ul.eu/6BaxmSfi

works fine for me

RTX 2070S

[warped ginkgo]

no idea how it works

i put like the image grok posted in #📢announcements and went from 90-100 to 30-40 haha

[cedar raptor]

https://zerogott.s-ul.eu/yNn8x5f3

[willow hawk]

DSR kills your frames

You need DLDSR

I have it on the 511 driver with my RTX3070

[cedar raptor]

same

https://zerogott.s-ul.eu/1WyHmuqz

dont use the legacy scaling options

[willow hawk]

Man it's crazy how much details I can see now

[cedar raptor]

hm

i wonder how good the upscaling works with grass

[willow hawk]

It works great for me

Smoothes all the aliasing

I keep AAx2 and SMAA High

[warped ginkgo]

hmm

i have a 3060, maybe that's why its kinda heavy for me

[willow hawk]

I keep 80-95 fps

[cedar raptor]

let me test how bad my F4 runs now 👀

works like a charm

[ancient ruin]

are there any unjam animations for some weapons?

[willow hawk]

Yep

Depends on the guns though

[ancient ruin]

it seems like most my guns dont have one, do you know if anyone has made an addon for them?

[willow hawk]

Every thing about unjam anims is in

Do you think I would omit an animation addon ?

[modern fern]

That’s cool, but it’s not showing up for me. It doesn’t exists as an option. And I turned off that mouse option that supposedly hides it.

[cedar raptor]

you are on the latest game ready driver?

[modern fern]

Yes

I’ll send photos when I get home

[warped ginkgo]

is there any addon that lowers the water sound? im running in the swamps and it's very noisy

[ancient ruin]

With unjamming, am i supposed to be able to shoot immediately after pressing the unjam button. it cuts the animation and doesnt look right

[wind forum]

definitely not

your character is supposed to work the bolt to clear the stuck cartridge

[ancient ruin]

ill put it as a #old-bugs then

[wind forum]

does that happen in all weapons or just one?

[ancient ruin]

i believe it happend with multiple

maybe not all but more then 1

i can test it

[wraith knoll]

does anyone know if suppressors reduce weapon damage and accuracy?

[graceful iron]

they reduce damage

[fresh fiber]

I think it's -10% damage

[graceful iron]

as in bullet velocity

not a set amount

[fresh fiber]

And the NPC know that you are firing but don't know where you are so in place like forest or interior it can confuse them

[graceful iron]

different for each type of suppressor

[fresh fiber]

I feel like a Spetnatz when I jump a group of bandits with a suppressor 😩

[graceful iron]

if you 1-3 tap all of them and hit most your shots it does feel cool

[ancient ruin]

What is it doing the first time i press reload? https://streamable.com/2wfkjb

[graceful iron]

thats a bas bug

with mags

or just mags redux being stupid

[ancient ruin]

it happens quite often and is annoying

[willow hawk]

EFT footsteps will fix this

[willow hawk]

That's why I don't recommend mags and it's ticked off by default

But people would ask me to add it so here it is

I don't play with mags

[graceful iron]

chads dont play with mags and then come complaining about it here

[north turret]

I play with mags and have encountered no bugs so far

[obtuse rune]

You don't push your buttons fast enough

[graceful iron]

i think that one happens when you try to reload right when another animation just ended

[ancient ruin]

idk, i just prefer the idea of having mags and not bullets magically appearing in your gun

[warped ginkgo]

[north turret]

I don't even get busy hands that often

just fucking wait for the animation to finish you noobs

smh

[graceful iron]

okay total pro

sure

[obtuse rune]

Sometimes the animation looks finished but takes another .5s

[north turret]

obviously

[north turret]

https://tenor.com/view/no-yes-giga-chad-giga-chad-gif-23156898

[graceful iron]

totally the best player out there

[north turret]

totally

absolutely correct

jk I love you all

[nimble axle]

downloaded the new texture pack in #custom-textures, put at the end of my load order, and getting crash on starting the game. error log below

any idea what that's referring to?

[obtuse rune]

If it was implemented into the base game I would understand this ie EFT, but since it's jerry rigged problems are bound to occur. Such is the life of using simplified game mechanics

[willow hawk]

Memory leak going out of hands

Just quit every 2 hours or so

[graceful iron]

clear shader cache

[nimble axle]

hrmm... that's weird. I hadn't had the game open prior and have 32 GB

just the new texture pack would do this?

[brisk zinc]

It's a common problem, we're trying to figure out what's the cause

Every hour or so the game get "slower"

[graceful iron]

starting to get this even faster than a hour

not sure why

[brisk zinc]

Like five minutes when you start the game? Me too

[graceful iron]

yea

[brisk zinc]

Seriously 10 minutes in, no map change or anything, still F5 taking one year, incredible

[graceful iron]

first quick save after starting the game takes a few seconds

[nimble axle]

very strange. well, no issues with it when I disable the EFP 3.0 REWORK HD texture pack. enable the texture pack I crash at startup with the error I copied.

so, for now I just won't use the texture pack

[obtuse rune]

Feels bad I couldn't get the anomaly repo to open in VS to watch the memory climb

[vale mantle]

Have one question. I am downloading the mod at the moment but the download speed is HORRENDOUSLY slow, like currently i'm at Agressor reshade, it has been downloading for 0,5h and its not even half of the whole thing. Is that a common issue? My internet connection is perfectly fine and i've been following Wavey's STALKER GAMMA Install Guide 1:1.

[obtuse rune]

The moddb mirror you're using might not be in your region

[vale mantle]

I'm in Poland

can i fix that mid-download?

[obtuse rune]

In the folder STALKER G.A.M.M.A. RC1\.Grok's Modpack Installer there is moddb_mirrors.txt where you can change the mirror # I don't recall where to get the numbers from on the website but you probably need to restart the installer after changing the values

[midnight solstice]

is there a way to make traders buy damaged items ?

[graceful iron]

disable gamma economy

will make you able to sell guns and armor and buy them

[midnight solstice]

ty

[graceful iron]

these 2

you will have to change the condition you can sell items at in the gameplay options

by default each trader has their own condition for items they will buy but changing that from zero to anything else will set all of them to that condition

[graceful iron]

.

[vale mantle]

i've opened the said textfile and there is nothing but 2 numbers in different lines: 121 and 127. what do i even do with those?

[strong ice]

So do you think it’s safe to use? Or you think it’ll brick my game lol

[willow hawk]

Wut

[willow hawk]

I have to check what this pack contains

[graceful iron]

is the rescue the courier quest from wolf still unsafe?

[willow hawk]

Yup

[vale mantle]

Dude, these mirrors are just bas files. Am I missing something?

hmh, wait, guess i am

[willow hawk]

Mirrors are servers for moddb

Just get the 3 digits number shown and put it in the text file

The GAMMA installer will use that mirror

Problem is, moddb mirrors are weird and always change everyday

[last spire]

For Dlsdr in Stalker which exe do i have to choose in the options of nvidia? Monolith launcher?

[willow hawk]

Point to DX11-AVX directly

[willow hawk]

But DLDSR is global anyways

[last spire]

Cause you can choose single programms in nvidia settings

And are you implementing highlighted crafting materials like in EFP 3.0 and the modern typeface?

[delicate wharf]

those new settings are sadly not available in single program settings

unless that got changed in the latest driver update

[willow hawk]

I don't know that feature... ? Crafting UI is clear enough and doesn't need highlighting ?

[willow hawk]

Nope it didn't

[last spire]

@willow hawk The crafting would be just about looks. The Typeface in Efp 3.0 looks more modern. I dont know if its the ui mod or a singel one

[willow hawk]

Ah the font ?

I don't like that Tarkov like don't

You can freely change the game font to whatever you want though

[last spire]

@willow hawk Yeah like the letters look a bit more clean

[willow hawk]

I'm not looking to use a clean round "modern" type font

I like the gruesome look of the current font

That fits the stalker spirit more

But I only have Modern UI font in mind

[last spire]

Thats a good point looks mor gritty

[willow hawk]

Didn't check EFP font

But to me a clean font doesn't fit stalker...

[vale mantle]

i've changed the moddb_mirrors so the only thing in the file is number 126, a value for server in netherlands. I've been doing the whole thing while downloading THAP. After implementing said change i restrated THAP download but the pathetic speed remained the same. Am i doing something wrong?

[willow hawk]

Can you check your download speed in Ctrl+Shift+Esc > Performances ?

[last spire]

Is there a Big difference between the normal Stalker textures and the ones from Flashbangz?

[willow hawk]

I don't know

[vale mantle]

well, receiving is like 5mb/s on average, the connection is fine

[willow hawk]

Wow that sucks

Try changing to another moddb mirror....

[graceful iron]

dont axes allow you to skin animals?

[willow hawk]

Nope

[graceful iron]

wat

why

[willow hawk]

Kek

[vale mantle]

mid-download?

[willow hawk]

Try skinning a dear with an axe

[graceful iron]

y u bully me

i dont consider realism when playing a game

sorry

[willow hawk]

I do

And the animation is ugly

[graceful iron]

never said the animation was pretty

[willow hawk]

Just have a knife in your inventory

[last spire]

Big F

[graceful iron]

i dropped it off cuz i thought i could with an axe

[willow hawk]

[graceful iron]

i will have to go get it back

[willow hawk]

Buy a new one

[graceful iron]

no its just in my stash

i stash everything

[willow hawk]

Close the installer

[graceful iron]

even stuff i know for a fact i dont need

[last spire]

Does anybody have this Rtgi shader?

[north turret]

Hey, anybody knows why in my game is taking travel between locations insanly long time? also it always takes like 30sec to get to main menu with ESC.

[willow hawk]

Time to close and reboot your game :(

Memory leaks

[north turret]

oh, thank you! Can i do something to prevent those memory leaks?

or its just engine thing

[willow hawk]

People here investigated it but nothing came out...

I'm currently too busy developping new features

I will try to find the source of the leaks later

Mainly because it it's a very annoying and not fun thing to do

And it's also very depressing lol

[north turret]

Sure,its no problem i dont mind rebooting. Well goodluck and thx for you work! Its great pack Cheers!

[willow hawk]

[ancient ruin]

may i ask what are the main differences between gamma and efp? if anyone knows

[graceful iron]

#╟❓general-offtopic message kind of sums it up

gamma focuses on making anomaly runs last longer and balancing combat and crafting while also making seemingly useless mechanics in anomaly actually useful

EFP focuses on additional content and textures /shaders while trying to do a balancing of their own but not really focusing on it

[willow hawk]

And also, cuts a lot of bullshit that is judged important by the modding community in general

Igi tasks for instance

Which isn't good in terms of balance

[graceful iron]

and just bugged

[willow hawk]

HD models also

Modern UI

Etc

EFP aims at reproducing Tarkov into Anomaly

GAMMA aims at providing a balanced, survival focused Stalker sandbox experience

[graceful iron]

so is literally doing what anomaly promises to do

[ancient ruin]

ok thank you, its amazing how much choice you have when playing this game

[graceful iron]

its the community that gives you all of them.

modders are to thank for that

[willow hawk]

Well Anomaly was just trying to create a better and more stable engine

[graceful iron]

but i am not wrong

[willow hawk]

It's only with 1.6 that anomaly devs are actually caring about the gameplay and content

[graceful iron]

is there an estimate or any real news on 1.6?

[willow hawk]

Nope

[graceful iron]

oof

[willow hawk]

They want new weapons and animations etc

GAMMA will have its own combination of CWWP and BAS guns

To ensure the best gun quality and animations

So, less guns overall, but better quality

[graceful iron]

thats nice to hear

[vale mantle]

Oi, Grok, everything seems to work fine after rebooting installer, thx for support pal

[willow hawk]

I don't want to have 8 ak 47 anymore

[graceful iron]

lol

[willow hawk]

Or 4 AK12

[ancient ruin]

never have enough aks

[willow hawk]

There will be 1 AK-47 and few variants

[graceful iron]

more ak means scared enemy

[willow hawk]

Most like CWWP will be base guns

And BaS tacticool variants will be kept

[wind forum]

what's cwwp?

[willow hawk]

And CWWP guns will be upgradable using kits

Contract Wars Weapon Pack

[graceful iron]

listen ivan, you need more ak so enmy wil be scard of you.

[willow hawk]

Because base guns + BAS + CWWP there will be 3 models at least of each gun

One problem will be how different CWWP guns look compared to the rest

[graceful iron]

i never seen them before

[willow hawk]

https://youtube.com/channel/UCAg_VvH3mpD7uG8tFs4GMcQ

[graceful iron]

they have a certain look to them different than most anomaly and bas guns

[willow hawk]

All guns look very metallic and gray with green sights

Also they will have dynamic camo

Customizable camo etc

[graceful iron]

i see that

[wind forum]

hmm yeah they do look quite different

but i'm all for more weapons

moar ak variants

[ocean pine]

what's your guys favorite storyline in GAMMA?

[last spire]

Jo is the new texturepack working for anybody?

I fucked up my holw game with it

[graceful iron]

sorry i didnt use it myself

[worthy bay]

Do technician vices serve any purpose if i can just use the toolkits "from the hand"..?

[graceful pier]

You can't craft items with toolkits

[obtuse rune]

If you decide to turn in all three you can use the vice for free + faction rep + money, but if you want to do the repair in inventory have the kits is fine

You can craft items

[graceful pier]

devices?

NVGs?

[brisk zinc]

Wrong quote but yes you can

[worthy bay]

can craft ammo just fine with the black one and did nvg upgrade as well so idk

[graceful pier]

Ah, my mistake then

[worthy bay]

alright, thanks for the replies

[sinful cape]

collection_medium

[desert robin]

Having the HQ textures from #custom-textures does not let the game successfully launch when i have it ticked in MO2. Anyone else?

[graceful iron]

multiple people seem to have problems with it

[desert robin]

Oh cool.

[graceful iron]

i think it was tested on older versions of gamma

so now its no longer compatible

[desert robin]

bugger.......

[graceful iron]

wait which one?

the last one?

[desert robin]

yes

[graceful iron]

it was yesterday

should work fine

i think its missing a step to install in #custom-textures

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-face-palm-seriously-exasperated-gif-7304550

i think the problem might be that gamma already has something changing the sky box and you might need to untick that and maybe grok forgot to add it as a step to use this texture . i could be wrong

you loaded it last as grok stated ?

[desert robin]

Yes

[graceful iron]

game works with it being unticked?

you can play without it till we get a response from grok

[pure scarab]

hey i am getting shader complation error

can anyone help?

[wind forum]

did you disable any mods or change any graphics settings?

if no, go to anomaly folder, then appdata, and delete the shader cache folder, then launch the game again

[pure scarab]

ok thanks

i will try

[pure scarab]

dint work 😦

[proven thorn]

Does GAMMA come with its own Enhanced Shaders grading preset or am I safe to mess with the cold/hollywood/etc settings

[wind forum]

how many addons do you have?

wondering if something is missing

[pure scarab]

234

[wind forum]

like teh priority stuff only goes all the way to 234?

[pure scarab]

yeh these are the actives

[wind forum]

no, i mean on your list, what's the number for end of loader

the priority number

[pure scarab]

268

[wind forum]

hmm

think you can try doing an update installation

[pure scarab]

yeh i am doing that

[wind forum]

you're pointing the mod organizer to run dx11-avx, right?

[pure scarab]

yes

[wind forum]

ok good

just making sure

[pure scarab]

god i hate the fact that stalker 2 got delayed

xD

[wind forum]

who knows if it's any good lol

[modern fern]

as mentioned, doesn't exist for me

[warped ginkgo]

global settings?

it doesn't appear in program settings i think

only in global

[quartz agate]

Hey, I'm getting Shader Compilation errors on launch after updating the pack. I have turned off the two SSR mods in visual, reinstalled beef's with the ES patch only, and deleted the shader cache from appdata. Please advise.

[modern fern]

It’s not in nether of them

[quartz agate]

Nevermind, I'll figure it out or reinstall.

[wind forum]

Disable Enhanced Shaders, SSR and Beef's NVGs and delete appdata/shader_cache folder. If you want to keep Beef's NVG, Ctrl+M in MO2, point to the Beef NVG archive in MO2, and install it without any patches. Be sure to delete shader cache.

[quartz agate]

so, no enhanced shaders then?

Something is wrong: FATAL ERROR

[error]Expression : <no expression>
[error]Function : CInifile::r_section
[error]File : Xr_ini.cpp
[error]Line : 915
[error]Description : fatal error
[error]Arguments : Can't open section 'collection_medium'. Please attach [*.ini_log] file to your bug report

stack trace:

what's up with my ini?

I'm just reinstalling from step 1

[warped ginkgo]

Are you

Using the efp texture pack

?

[quartz agate]

yes

well, trying to

[warped ginkgo]

#old-bugs

I answer there

[quartz agate]

ty

[graceful iron]

idk how well this works

if the crash is similar to this i think

[graceful iron]

is this the first time launching the game?

or did you already find a fix?

[desert robin]

No change

[graceful iron]

well looks like you will have to keep waiting then. @warped ginkgo do you have any ideas ?

[warped ginkgo]

Give log after Crash

[graceful iron]

.

[desert robin]

FATAL ERROR [error]Expression : <no expression>[error]Function : CInifile::r_section[error]File : Xr_ini.cpp[error]Line : 915[error]Description : fatal error[error]Arguments : Can't open section 'collection_far'. Please attach [*.ini_log] file to your bug report stack trace:

[warped ginkgo]

Well its related to weather

No idea then

Im logging off, good luck

[celest raft]

any way to tone down the aim punch/camera spinning when getting shot?

[fading rose]

Hi ppl!

Somebody tried the EFP textures from addons? It improves the framerate?

[proven thorn]

modpack installer folder > g.a.m.m.a > modpack_addons

[graceful iron]

currently seems unstable. not sure about fps improvement

seems to work if you delete the configs in it after installing otherwise it crashes the game

#🔨base-gamma-support message

you can try it

[willow hawk]

Added instructions

[lilac meteor]

I get this when trying to complete/update gamma

[graceful iron]

dont mind the cmd doing its stuff

if the actual installer does not say anything about an error it should be fine

[lilac meteor]

Something definitly isnt working correctly, im still getting a ton of addons not downloading correctly

[graceful iron]

oh no...

how many times did you restart the download?

also did you get the latest installer update from the #📢announcements channel?

[lilac meteor]

I havent restarted it, i just followed step 6 to press update gamma if it failed

[graceful iron]

update data- complete gamma installation

[daring magnet]

I believe the folder needs to be "STALKER G.A.M.M.A. RC1\profiles" not "STALKER G.A.M.M.A. RC1\STALKER G.A.M.M.A. RC1\profiles"

I had a similar problem renaming the Stalker Gamma folder

[modern fern]

Is the artifact melter found in the same fashion as the tool kits?

[lilac meteor]

probably just how it decided to zip itself out

[graceful iron]

not added yet

its bought from eco

[modern fern]

Oh, thanks then

[willow hawk]

Where do you launch the installer from ?

[graceful iron]

sorry didnt read the error. thought it was the normal error it always shows