🎪bruh-fart

[upper shore]

Fuck you I'm re-playing half life

[lost epoch]

I played some half-life mods

None of the hl2 mods are good except for entropy:zero ones

[fluid heron]

They usually aren't very good

[upper shore]

Entropy zero devs are making more

[fluid heron]

If it's Russian it's boutta be the unintentionally funniest shit you've ever played

[lost epoch]

The first entropy zero wasn't very good imo

But the second was SO good you could tell me it was made by valve and i'd believe it

[upper shore]

No but it was interesting, and it was the only "play as the combine" mod since Combine Destiny and Human Error

[upper shore]

Spiritual opposing force successor imo

[lost epoch]

Yeah it was real damn nice to play EZ:2

The first one wasnt "good" but it wasn't bad either

I'd just rework that final boss battle because it was real ass

[upper shore]

First one was clearly experimental

Not helped by the fact it was a solo project

[lost epoch]

Oh it was solo?

Impressive actually

[upper shore]

Yeah it was just Breadman fucking about

[lost epoch]

Because it wasn't really small

[upper shore]

EZ:2 was made with a full ass team though

Breadman's actually the guy who made the old gmod ghost hunt maps as well

[lost epoch]

I'm waiting with great expectations for axiom pariah

And the female combine assassin thing

Even if it doesn't make much sense from a lore perspective

Like, the combine do massive surgery on the poor bastards who surrender to join the force

Remove everything they deem useless

Which includes whathever differentiates gender in humans

Most organs are gone too

[upper shore]

I'm trying to remember if the EZ:2 team is making 2 different "episodes"

One is a continuation of EZ:2 and the other is a prequel as the combine assassin

Progenitors!

That's what it was called

Progenitors is the combine assassin one, Axon Pariah is the EZ:2 continuation

[fluid heron]

Kenshi was a solo project

and that shit bangs

[upper shore]

Holy shit Kenshi was solo?

[fluid heron]

I think the dialogue was made by the guys sister

[lost epoch]

Kenshi 1 or 2

[fluid heron]

1

Made on a terrible engine

[upper shore]

"Founded by Chris Hunt in 2006, Lo-Fi Games started off originally as a one-man team for six long years. In that time, Chris struggled to get by as a security guard by night and lone game developer by day."

https://tenor.com/view/tasty-pulp-fiction-beverage-drink-samuel-l-jackson-gif-18125093564933168123

[fluid heron]

and that game is so fucking good

[upper shore]

I'll be damned

[lost epoch]

Hoo

Amazing

[fluid heron]

Kenshi 2 allegedly has 30 people don't believe it

[lost epoch]

Kenshi is a nice autism satisfier

[minor cypress]

Beep

[fluid heron]

Beep was originally a test npc

now he's an iconic character in kenshi

[minor cypress]

He is the best character

[fluid heron]

"money? I don't know what that means." - beep

Not to mention "BEEP IS THE STRONGEST! THERE WILL BE CHANGES..... beep"

[fluid heron]

For a solo dev the lore of kenshi is next level

There being a bug race that's basically a hivemind and those who aren't fit for the society are thrown out like beep

[toxic sundial]

I don't think the lore is next level but more the way you find out about it is really well done

[fluid heron]

In game if you try to trade with the hive as beep they won't trade with him

[minor cypress]

I think the world is well done

[toxic sundial]

you can figure out and piece it together for yourself in a way that isn't normally well done

[fluid heron]

It's very well done

[minor cypress]

Im a sucker for world that show but don't tell

[fluid heron]

Real

[minor cypress]

Where you are just put into it, and have to figure things out as just a dude.

Bonus points for enviromental storytelling.

[fluid heron]

Found an issue with usb-c to usb-c

it's hard to plug in half conscious

[minor cypress]

The deeper lore of D2 and marathon go crazy

Also the worst part of learning halo, destiny and marathon lore is realizing bungie only made one fucking game

[fluid heron]

D2 lore would go crazy if you COULD FUCKING PLAY IT

[thick wadi]

or if the lore wasnt exclusively in text

[minor cypress]

I've got the lore books, they go hard.

[thick wadi]

not everyone at bungie is an idiot

[minor cypress]

I think their gameplay/pr team for destiny was shitty.

[fluid heron]

just the vast majority

[minor cypress]

Their lore teams can cook

Just....only in esoteric formats

[fluid heron]

Just only in a 60 dollar dlc that will have all its content removed in 3 years

And you get the cliff notes

God I should've never listened when my day 1 wanted to play d2

biggest waste of fucking time

[fluid heron]

What

[minor cypress]

Its the best/worst thing i've sunk time into. It deserved to die

[fluid heron]

shit was mildly fun at most

fallout 76 had more engaging grinding

And just stupid retarded dungeons

[minor cypress]

How up to date on marathon lore and destiny lore are you?

[fluid heron]

2020 was 6 years ago

that tells you

God the stupid fucking dungeon design shit was setup like a fake ass garuntee raygun out the mystery box

stand here spin around 12 times shoot this area 15 times

shit fucking sucked

Now complete this dps check

(get carried by people who have done this 10k times)

[minor cypress]

So the winnower is the opposite of the traveler. Big bad thing that got imprisoned. The w'rkenkaceter also got imprisoned on a sun. Then depending on the timeline, may have escaped. W'rkenkaceter = winnower stuck on tau ceti. Drones can't read under the planet. Read image text. Runners made from weaveworms. Runners can go under planet. Planet whispers to us. Whisper of the worms.

But also, the traveler/weaver are all mycelium. So the w'Rkencaceter is also a mushroom.

[fluid heron]

And are willing to put up with you not understanding the retarded activation steos

[fluid heron]

When did that fucking green string shit come out

There was a big triangle or something

and then you could be like fucking spiderman

it's just called strand how creative

Stopped playing when that shit came out

[minor cypress]

Yeah same. It was the dlc after witch queen

Also

Name of evil fungus on tau ceti

Based off real fungus name

Made from penicilin

[fluid heron]

Do they think this shit is the last of us or something

[minor cypress]

What penecilin looks like

Also bungie game

[fluid heron]

SHIT IS BUNS

[minor cypress]

Also matches nurgle signs

[fluid heron]

Darktide has a nurgle language that hasn't been deciphered

[minor cypress]

So if the planet is a mushroom

[fluid heron]

that shit rocks

[minor cypress]

Or fungus

And fungus makes penecillin. And the planet is making penecillin to stop diseases, we are a disease

The planet is alive and trying to snuff us out.

[fluid heron]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[minor cypress]

Marathons enviroments do a great job of conveying "you were never welcome here."

[fluid heron]

Didn't marathon fail horrifically or am I thinking of something else

Ah nah that's that extraction shooter

[minor cypress]

Seems to be doing fine. I think the internet just latched on to hating it

Because d2 died

[fluid heron]

too fucking many extraction shooters been coming out can't soypog over all of them

[minor cypress]

Ye. Its not as autistic as tarkov, but not as casual as arc raiders.

It fills its niche pretty well

[fluid heron]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-gif-21644488

[minor cypress]

The endgame fight for a compiler has d2 raid mechanics.

[fluid heron]

Can't fucking stand extraction shooters anymore

Hunt showdown is the exception

because its barely one

[minor cypress]

50/50. We'll see how things are after the first wipe

[fluid heron]

Extraction shooter and wipe just mean people who don't have a job can play constantly and get ahead of everyone else

[minor cypress]

The endgame bossfight even has bungie's patented "shoot matching symbols, dodge things, go dps phase while having a buff standing in a bubble" formula.

[fluid heron]

surprisingly not wiping and enforcing an mmr system works

Mmr sucks ass in everything but extraction shooters

tarkov after so long finally decided all wiping does is push a wall between those who can spend all their time playing and those cant

and I still won't play that dogshit

[minor cypress]

Its not as brutal as tarkov, ttk is similar between shield types and weapon dmg isn't affected by mods a ton

Its not like you can get out armor classed + shit ammo like tarkov does

[fluid heron]

Load into a raid broke as shit just to get my head blown off across the map with some ap 5 bullet

[fluid heron]

Which is why arc raiders is so fun

The kettle is dead ass a meta weapon

and one of the cheapest

[minor cypress]

Its not giga casual like arc nor ballbusting like tarkov. It scratches the itch

[fluid heron]

I just want a game to be fun

Tarkov is just bullshit

[minor cypress]

I couldn't get over the keanu wholesome chungus pve players from ark

[fluid heron]

Go dehydrate yourself and one tap 30 players with irons to get .01 rep with a trader

[narrow sorrel]

You can play knockoff chinese tarkov but it's kinda ballbusting too

[minor cypress]

Fuck off bro, this is an extraction shooter, we come from tarkov, im skinning you alive. Gimme loot.

[fluid heron]

Arena breakout is fun as fuck

that shit is so fun

[minor cypress]

Looked too close to mobile slop

[fluid heron]

They have gear value matchmaking

[narrow sorrel]

might as well be mobile slop

[minor cypress]

Unless im thinking of the wrong game

[fluid heron]

Adapted from a mobile game so technically yes

[narrow sorrel]

it's a pc port of a mobile game I guess

[minor cypress]

Hell nah

[fluid heron]

but holy shit it is a breath of fresh air from tarkov

imagine if in tarkov you didn't get beamed across the map in half a second there was a functioning anti cheat proper matchmaking and more arcade like gunplay

[minor cypress]

Anything with basic QOL and community engagement is a breath of fresh air compared to tarkov

[fluid heron]

It's actually fun

[narrow sorrel]

it's okay

[fluid heron]

I love it

[narrow sorrel]

I liked the older gunplay more

[fluid heron]

I already had fun playing that shit on my phone when I was supposed to be working

[minor cypress]

Best part of marathon was getting killed and being back in a match in under 5 min

Tarkov could never

[fluid heron]

and arena breakout still manages

[narrow sorrel]

so does marathon even have ayyliens

or is it just a single juiced s'pht compiler?

[minor cypress]

Just the compiler for aliens, mostly fighting clankers and players

[fluid heron]

Can't fucking stand tarkov wait 8 minutes to spawn in as a scav and be killed by some ttv fucking virgin who is also scav running with 10 billion fence rep

[minor cypress]

However, there is a weapon mod ingame that is only good vs redacted enemies

And the spht compiler is just one lackey enemy. 99% sure the planet is a prison for a w'rkenkaceter

Also fuck whoever designed the naming scheme for marathon aliens 30 years ago

[fluid heron]

Been having too much fun playing my childhood and adulthood game tf2 to touch extraction shooters

[minor cypress]

I just want a mercenaries 3

[narrow sorrel]

What's the point if I cant get blapped by a pfhor juggernaut

[narrow sorrel]

...Mechwarrior?

[fluid heron]

I just want a game thats punishing without bullshit questing that does reward no lifing and has some form of matchmaking or at least comparable output from less than meta weapons

all tarkov is how big the stats on your bullets are

which is easier to have higher if you don't have a fucking life

[thick wadi]

[minor cypress]

I'm hoping we eventually go deeper into the marathon or tau cetis core.

[minor cypress]

So literally marathon

[fluid heron]

Current extraction shooter I fuck with is arma 3 antistasi

[minor cypress]

Thr questing is acceptable amounts of ballbusting.

[thick wadi]

thats some cope

[fluid heron]

run some dog ass m855

and try to have fun

shooting tissues out of your fucking gun

Arena breakout has the same issue but you have instant access to the flea and nothing's banned

so it doesn't fucking matter

[minor cypress]

Peeeeaaaaakkkkkk

[raven python]

arena breakout players when they spend more on ammo than what they get from the raid

[thick wadi]

yeah its great for face shots still

i regularly run sub 40 pen rounds and perform just fine

[narrow sorrel]

They took t5 ammo thermals out

[fluid heron]

bro I played last month theres no way

[narrow sorrel]

well

you cant flea that

[fluid heron]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-ruckus-uncle-ruckus-no-uncle-ruckus-dna-results-uncle-ruckus-why-lord-why-boondocks-gif-10628132944124823648

[minor cypress]

A merc game on modern game engines with a larger world hunting down war criminals and dictators would be so good

Please 2026 i beg you

[thick wadi]

tarkov is far from some rock paper scissors pen/armor math game but

[narrow sorrel]

It was like that last month wdym

You had to craft that shit

[fluid heron]

i could buy that shit

[thick wadi]

every other extraction shooter has shot itself in the mouth with a shotgun atp

[narrow sorrel]

ah wait

anomaly is now

[minor cypress]

Soon maybe. Im hoping season 2 is way more focused on aliens.

[narrow sorrel]

maybe they added it back in

[fluid heron]

now im just fucking confused

i played for the fucking stalker bullshit

[narrow sorrel]

I think I'm wrong and you're right.

[fluid heron]

i could buy crazy ammo

[minor cypress]

Also, marathon ship made from moon of mars. Ship haunted. Moon haunted again.

[fluid heron]

im very innebriated

so who klnows

one of us i gonna have to redownload

[thick wadi]

i hear marathon and i flinch like an abused dog

[minor cypress]

I think 60% of it is also carried by tarkovs playerbase being stockholmed.

[fluid heron]

i do remember being able to buy fat tier 6 7.62x54

[minor cypress]

And 40% other companies just being retarded.

[thick wadi]

stockholmed or genuinely satisfied with many of the mechanics that make it unique

[fluid heron]

dude i still have like 20 m4s sitting in my stash from the anomaly event

[thick wadi]

the main complaint i had with the game has been solved recently anyway

loading times

[fluid heron]

and with tier 4 and 5 556 at an all time low

shit would go crazy

[minor cypress]

Nikita could tell tarkov players they are only true gamers if they can hear his balls clap their ass, and they'd pay for the experience.

[fluid heron]

streets running at 30 fps is a fucking crime

[minor cypress]

I love alot of the ideas and mechanics of tarkov, but the execution is held back by the most dogshit company.

[thick wadi]

i run it at 100 at 4k now

[fluid heron]

every other map running at my refresh rate

shit is fucking ridiculous

[minor cypress]

Real frames?

[thick wadi]

i fucking hate frame gen.

[fluid heron]

144 fps low real frames every map

streets

fuck no

heres a fat 40

[thick wadi]

iedy and a few other peoples in tarkov vc use smooth motion but i cannot stand any frame gen

[fluid heron]

nikita is a fat fucking whore

[thick wadi]

game has gotten some solid performance and loading/matching speed improvements in the last few weeks and its improved the experience a great deal

[umbral field]

And it's outrageous

[minor cypress]

Not to mention the cheating issues

Game is held hostage by shit devs

[thick wadi]

are there any other exfil shooters not fighting cheaters

[minor cypress]

And overdone promises leading nowhere

[thick wadi]

from what i heard its bad in marathon now

[fluid heron]

abi

[minor cypress]

Bro they have had 10+ years of dev time.

And had the balls to ask you to pay more

After walking back eoD promises.

The company is dogshit

[thick wadi]

so what does any of this have to do with other exfil shooters and cheaters

[fluid heron]

99 percent of abi hackusation is that they are pissed and didnt check the fucking replay that shows how the other person killed them

[raven python]

when they tried to edit EOD conditions live that shi was so funny bro

[fluid heron]

if tarkov had a kill replay system i wouldnt just assume everyone is cheating

but when i fucking die across the map with no warning no sound nothing

[raven python]

they dont have a replay system because if they did everyone would quit

[fluid heron]

what the fuck am i supposed to think from the game that is filled with cheaters

[raven python]

after seeing that everyone is infact cheating

[thick wadi]

it would be nice because the cheating issues in tarkov are super overblown

like yes they exist

but some people believe its every death

[raven python]

bro u can literally go on desmonds stream and 10 hours of him just dying to sub 600 hour accounts

[fluid heron]

it only takes 1 cheater to kill you for you to think everyone is cheating

[raven python]

its not overblown

[fluid heron]

because hwo the fuck would i know if they arent

i died out of nowhere and i have no idea how it happened

[raven python]

ye a lot of cheaters love also preying on the 'convenience' aspect

like have u ever died and its sooo convenient

[fluid heron]

last time i played tarkov i was shot through 3 walls

[minor cypress]

I'll give tarkov credit for most of the genres creation

[raven python]

i dont meet blatant hackers like that

[fluid heron]

i was in a room with one exit and got shot across the map

[raven python]

but there is a LOT of wall hackers

you can kill wall hackers shi i do it myself

[fluid heron]

hunt showdown still the goat

[minor cypress]

Its just sad seeing it be mismanaged so hard.

[raven python]

when ppl be shooting 24/7 reserve bunker i come after and marked room isnt open I open it and theres nothing inside like of course bro

[minor cypress]

Streets performance still a joke

[fluid heron]

arcadey low risk fun

[thick wadi]

lots of senior devs are leaving bsg actually

[raven python]

and then i go rb bk and its open

like of courseeee

[fluid heron]

fucking unplayable map

on a 3080 ti

[minor cypress]

When the community answer is "lol get an x3d cpu for just one game" you know things are fucked.

[raven python]

i get 100 fps on streets but i swear to god it feels like 45

[fluid heron]

fuckers expect me to have a spaceship to play streets

[thick wadi]

i can tell the tarkov hate boner is insane rn because i was just talking about how streets runs better since some recent changes

it is truly amazing that this game can invoke feelings this strong

[fluid heron]

the hate boner is insane because i dont WANT TO PLAY THE FUCKING GAME

THE GAME HAS BEEN FUCKING AWFUL

WHY WOULD I PLAY IT

[minor cypress]

Enshittification soon, nikita gonna jump ship to shill his next project.

[fluid heron]

THE HATE BONER IS THERE BECAUSE THE GAME IS FUCKING SHIT

WHY WOULD I PLAY A FUCKING AWFUL GAME

[minor cypress]

Nooo bro, we had to release arena. Trust

[thick wadi]

no other game has this gut reaction

[raven python]

tarkov is indisputably best in its genre tho

[thick wadi]

lol

https://medal.tv/games/escape-from-tarkov/clips/mE2X3J8CX2sY3nbls?utm_source=discord&utm_content=share_message&v=etQPiGLZRjfpQR

[fluid heron]

as far as making my nuts beat out of my chest yes

as in terms of an actually fun to play game FUCK NO

[minor cypress]

Exactly. It is hell seeing a diamond necklace be worn by an ape encrusted in shit.

[raven python]

game is fun to plaly after u spend 1k hours learning it

[fluid heron]

game is fun to play after youve spent so long no lifing it

[thick wadi]

first 1k is the tutorial

game is the runescape of shooters

[fluid heron]

a game where i can get on after work and have fun

[raven python]

but i wouldnt blame anyone for not wanting to go through that

[fluid heron]

tarkov just does not fucking scratch that at all

its just a cherry on top of a shit day

[raven python]

tarkov loot is also done best in its genre, like i played delta force and i had so much money and nothingt o spend it on cause traders didnt upgrade with quests

so it was like pointless

[thick wadi]

yeah but instead of admitting that people just drone on about how much the game sucks

[fluid heron]

i never got tier 4 traders when i had no job

and was playing it consistently

[raven python]

t 4 traders are really easy to get tho, just do the quests

which arent that hard

[fluid heron]

i would just get my fucking ass MOLESTED every raid

[raven python]

most quests are go point B and do something

ok tbf just pick 1 server

and dead queue maxx like every quest grinder does

[fluid heron]

and then i would see TTV in the name of the fucker who killed me and my blood would just boil

[minor cypress]

It mostly hurts seeing the potential of what tarkov could be, and realizing that shit isn't fixed in 10 years, and won't be fixed.

[fluid heron]

some fucking LOSER with 4 VIEWERS spends their WHOLE LIFE on the game

[minor cypress]

Perfect point, half of the QoL on SPT being doable.

[raven python]

i like some aspects of spt like the stash qol thats awesome

[minor cypress]

You have proof it could be better. Seen in. Played it. But never gonna be implemented.

[fluid heron]

tarkov is just a big flaming pile of shit

[visual stirrup]

I would love it if there were ways to interact with the environment

bringing empty gas cans to fill up at certain places (like people have been asking for forever)
bringing tools to loot

imagine if there were locks you could bypass by brinking a bulky sledgehammer or boltcutters to the raid

[minor cypress]

Its just so fucking demoralizing lol

[minor cypress]

That'll cost an extra 30 FPS because the devs made locks check their lock status 5000 times a second.

And is handled client side.

[visual stirrup]

wait, what?

[minor cypress]

With different events for each tool item.

[visual stirrup]

wouldn't that make it possible for cheaters to open any lock?

can they do that?

[fluid heron]

ive just fallen out with anything modern mh wilds checking for dlc EVERY FUCKING FRAME

[minor cypress]

Just talking out of my ass about bad bsg programming

[fluid heron]

just killed it

[visual stirrup]

okay

[minor cypress]

Not actually real. Blood could give you more rants about the actual shit code BSG has.

[minor cypress]

The scope reworks, fov stuff, amands lighting, SAIN's AI tweaks and goated.

[fluid heron]

sain is my goat

[minor cypress]

Imagine scav AI being sain instead of the dogshit they have now

[fluid heron]

spt was the only time i ever felt joy playing tarkov

[raven python]

y would i want scavs to piss me off while fighting pmcs

[fluid heron]

that one mod that would base ai gear on your level

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-patrick-star-jolly-happy-rainbow-and-sunshine-gif-11154688262827409004

[minor cypress]

Because its more interaction instead of "you aimed at me, i now know where you are 400M away"

[visual stirrup]

the quest design really is (stand in place, grope a random bit of terrain for 30 seconds hoping you don't get shot)
that's your guy placing something for the quest

why do I need two toolsets to do that task for mechanic?

[minor cypress]

Sorry bud, i need you to drink this mayo

[fluid heron]

and then after the reasonale quests its turns into yeah go dehydrate in a bush and wait to not get a fucking run back

[visual stirrup]

BSG is such shit that they couldn't have the task just check for the tools, it has to consume them like most other tasks

[fluid heron]

just stupid bullshit

nothing that expans lore or makes sense

[raven python]

the interactions u do with pmcs not with scavs, for pve yes that would be good but for pvp i dont see much purpose

pvp scavs are more like dayz zombies just there to piss u off

[fluid heron]

just bullshit only those who have an extraordinary time to dedicate to the game can do

shooter born in hell fuck that shit

i can barely get 1 kill a raid

[minor cypress]

I'd still like them to actually be worth respecting ingame

[raven python]

i think those quests are actually there to teach u how annoying it is to be hungry ingame n u should eat or sumn idk

[minor cypress]

In marathon, the clankers will actually swarm you and end your shit if you are greedy.

[fluid heron]

ITS ALREADY ANNOYING AS FUCK IF YOU DONT HAVE HIDEOUT UPGRADES

ITS FUCKING AWFUL

[minor cypress]

But comparing tarkov and marathon is miles apart. They fill different needs.

[fluid heron]

BE IN THE MAP 10 MINUTES AND YOU ARE DYING FROM HUNGER AND THIRST

[minor cypress]

Did they ever unfuck the audio in tarkov

[fluid heron]

YOUR PMC HAS THE FUCKING CRAZIEST METABOLISM

FUCKER LOSES A POUND A MINUTE

[minor cypress]

Or is it still whos on 1st floor. Whats on 2nd floor, im on 3rd floor

[fluid heron]

makes fucking playing woods a slog when you have to run 8 kilometeres to get to an extract just for it to inevitabely be camped

the entire time you are dying of thirst

[visual stirrup]

I love how AI scavs will walk in circles with their weapons shouldered

Shadow of Chernobyl had the AI doing more (bullshitting, chatting, sitting around campfires, etc.) almost 20 years ago

[fluid heron]

and the guy whos camping you have ZERO FUCK SHOT AGAINST running the best armor best gun best ammo

ALL WHILE 400 METERS AWAY JACKING OFF IN A FUCKING BUSH

[visual stirrup]

I have suggested it before

the raid timer should run faster for people who extract camp

[raven python]

ye outskirts is annoying

[visual stirrup]

abusing arbitatry video game bullshit should be punished with the same arbitrary video game bullshit

[raven python]

the game isnt ment to be pve centric its made for pvp

[fluid heron]

oh but if you buy this epic 200 dollar edition you can get a bigger container that garuntees you gain more money than those without it whenver you inevitabely die to some fucking virgin

[visual stirrup]

Nikita's vision has very little to do with Tarkov's present or future

[fluid heron]

fucking joke of a game

[raven python]

and the games present past and future is about pvp

pve as a gamemode probably wouldnt have ever existed if it wasnt for the unheard drama

[fluid heron]

i cant stand when fucking RETARDS try to defend the secure containers on tarkov

oh yeah the thing that garuntees you can extract with more money isnt pay to win

[visual stirrup]

it's just a coincidence that all the streamers play on EoD accounts

[fluid heron]

definitely

the people that have NO FUCKING LIVES

THEY JUST SIT IN DAY OUT PLAYING TARKOV

[visual stirrup]

it's not like stash space and the ability to hoard on quest items before you get the quest is a very real advantage

[raven python]

its their jobs

they get paid 100k+ yearly for playing a game for not even 8 hours a day

[fluid heron]

their fake job streaming to their 0 viewers

i would strangle a fucking ttver to death

what a fucking waste of space

[visual stirrup]

I always hunt down streamers in whatever lobby I'm in

[raven python]

low viewer tarkov streamers like cooldee makes enough money to make his family not have to work n shit and he only gets about 300~ viewers per live which is a lot dont get me wrong, theres obv a high demand if they get so overpaid

twitch actually pays a lot

[fluid heron]

unfortunately i realised no matter how long ive been playing games some fucking loser ttver has spent their whole life jerking off and playing the game that theres no point

[raven python]

it helps a lot that adblockers on twitch are constantly patched

[visual stirrup]

fucking unemployed retards who have the ears of the devs and community for no good reason

they ruin the games they touch more often than not

[minor cypress]

how do you know they were in your lobby?

[fluid heron]

so i just play pve horde shooters

not helldivers 2 tho fuck that game and their retarded fucking dev team

[visual stirrup]

they often has ttv or youtube in their clan tag or username

not just talking about tarkov

[minor cypress]

This shit kills me. I fucking loathe streamer bias

[fluid heron]

im 20 and i feel like ive been selected out of the shooter gene pool

[raven python]

was there any documented time streamers complained about something and it got changed tho

[minor cypress]

Unemployed fucking mongrels enshitifying a game to make it more grindy so they can keep playing it and not need actual employment

[fluid heron]

alot of times

[raven python]

is there any example u dont need proof just give an example

[minor cypress]

Marathon wastr shotguns and bubble shield rarity/dmg got nerfed.

[raven python]

oh i ment tarkov but i guess u meant streamers in games in general

[minor cypress]

Actual positive change for once.

[visual stirrup]

they complain a lot, but I don't know if BSG listens to their advice when it comes to gameplay changes

there was an incident when a streamer was killed by a "cheater" who was quickly banned by BSG because it was a streamer doing the complaining

[fluid heron]

you had ninja encouraging fortnites comp scene which while technically was never added still fucking persists

[minor cypress]

Rengwar moment

[raven python]

ye the rengawr guy

bsg retracted it tho + rengawr went a crazy path later he was viewbotting n then he disappeared

[fluid heron]

god the fucking inertia update in tarkov

[visual stirrup]

I think the "cheater" had a recording or the streamer thought better of it and the ban was reversed

[fluid heron]

you had so many fuckling shit ass streamers going what i cant strafe instantly with a 90 pound backpack this game sucks

[visual stirrup]

the possibility of losing your account because you killed a salty streamer is not a sign of a healthy game

[raven python]

to be fair inertia is a universally hated feature not only by streamers

[fluid heron]

I LOVE IT

FUCK THOSE PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY CAN RUN LIKE USAIN WITH 90 POUNDS OF SHIT STRAPPED ON THEM

[minor cypress]

My biggest gripe is the grind/sweatification streamers bring to a game. Casual dies.

[minor cypress]

Meanwhile there is bhop peeks

[raven python]

ppls argument for why inertia sucks is cause it makes a looter shooter unrewarding to loot

[fluid heron]

its hard to get into a new game and just be able to hop on it not knowing shit and just have fun

you have to sit there research learn metas

just to get fucking destroyed by a kid who YOU COULD BE THEIR FUCKING DAD

i just fucking hate it

its why i pretty much only play mil sims and pve games now

at 20 FUCKING YEARS OLD

[minor cypress]

Eh, its not that bad. I just think alot of games refuse to respect anyones time

Also, metas and restrictions just mean people will work around it and exploit it.

https://medal.tv/games/escape-from-tarkov/clips/mE2X3J8CX2sY3nbls?utm_source=discord&utm_content=share_message&v=etQPiGLZRjfpQR

Inertia aint doing shit here

[fluid heron]

tarkov clip just not even gonna play it

just gonna end up dissapointed

[raven python]

thats because inertia was incredibly reduced from its original debut, and not only that nowadays you do movement to have as little inertia as possible

like circle peeking

[fluid heron]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-fuck-man-stressed-problematic-gif-15976565

hey man atleast i can still top frag on tf2

[minor cypress]

Run in circles to build momentum and then peek

WAOW SO HARDCORE

its all so tiring.

[raven python]

tbf also that guy's reaction time is also like turbo high

[fluid heron]

THIS IS TRULY A REALISTIC SHOOTER

[visual stirrup]

this sounds like boomer shooter fans complaining about weapon limits and reloading

it adds complexity, risk/reward, and demands foresight.

[fluid heron]

https://tenor.com/view/exhausted-tiresome-its-all-so-tiresome-gif-15502639

[raven python]

ye also if u didnt know if u jump on ur right leg ingame

u jump farther

[minor cypress]

Say sime

Sike

[fluid heron]

it does it rewards being light and picking fights or being sneaky and being full of loot

[raven python]

no ppl genuienly time their legs to jump farther

[fluid heron]

it doesnt encourage just fucking w'ing into every fight and just dumpstering everyone

[minor cypress]

The unemployed will truely optimize any fun of a game when given a chance.

[raven python]

its a game tho im not tryna camp for 30 minutes

[thick wadi]

thats not really something many people do

[raven python]

for some virtual loot

[minor cypress]

Biggest reason why hardcore gamers make the worst devs.

[fluid heron]

reason why the game me and my buddies play is ultimate chicken horse

[raven python]

they do but its subtle, they time it with the sound cause u can tell when ur about to step on the right leg

[fluid heron]

because its fun

[visual stirrup]

yeah

but there's always the problem of shitheels who have no intention of looting and will just camp for other players

[raven python]

they dont say it out loud but they do it when needed

[visual stirrup]

"waah, pvp in my pvp game"

I know

[fluid heron]

the issue is when theres no chekc or balances towards the pvp experience and it turns into who can no life the most

which is where an mmr system genuinely works

[raven python]

thats the loop of the game, you get loot you quest to get cool guns to kill ppl then u go around and kill ppl

[visual stirrup]

which is why Tarkov has all the problems of MMO's

[raven python]

ok this woujld actually ruin the game like how sbmm ruined every singular game out there

[fluid heron]

pretty much

[raven python]

the fun in tarkov is the randomness, fact u can find a chad sometimes a timmy, a rat a everything

[fluid heron]

its terrible in most shooters in extraction shooters i can see a reason for it

arc raiders uses it and i can play on pc with my console friends and have a good time

i just want to fucking have a good time

[minor cypress]

The skill system

[fluid heron]

dont even talk about that

that shit is fucking terrible

[raven python]

the skill system in tarkov would actually be pretty peak if it wasnt for the skills levelling so abysmally slow

[fluid heron]

worst designed game mechanic i have ever seen

[minor cypress]

Exactly. Mmr would ruin that. You need highs and lows

[fluid heron]

an arc raiders still manages that with its sbmm

[minor cypress]

You must be a dedicated true believer to max skills

[raven python]

old call of duty also had no sbmm just pure random lobbies and thats probably one of the reasons why they were so good

[fluid heron]

ive had fucking terrible lows and insane highs in arc raiders

[minor cypress]

Or walk on barbed wire for 30 min healing to cheese it

[visual stirrup]

I have no idea how an employed person would max out a few skills without exploits in one wipe cycle

[fluid heron]

tarkov having bosses that are so abysmally shit to fight

[minor cypress]

Seriously. The mmr enshitification of modern gaming is a sin

What ever happened to "holy fuck that guy is goated or cheating"

[fluid heron]

it worked well back in the day

[visual stirrup]

the skill system also incentivizes unfun sweaty behavior for more advantage

[minor cypress]

Nooooo he has a magical talking stick, im jamming your gun on 20fps map

[green dust]

Umm guys is the gamma installer not working ??

[fluid heron]

everyone is either a guy who came off of 12 hours of work or some fucking wannabe twitch streamer that spends their whole life on the game

[fluid heron]

FUCK OFF

[green dust]

Cause the channel says that do not install

[raven python]

this isnt the place to ask questions like these

[minor cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-25879491

[fluid heron]

NOT THE CHANNEL

[visual stirrup]

there are technical problems right now
nobody can install GAMMA at this time

[fluid heron]

ITS BEEN NOT FUCKING WORKING

[visual stirrup]

you'll have to wait

[green dust]

Ohk

[fluid heron]

WE DONT TALK ABOUT GAMMA IN HERE

[green dust]

Thanks

[fluid heron]

THIS IS A GAMMA NO ZONE

[raven python]

tbf nowadays the whole barbed wire exploits n all are gone, nowadays its borderline impossible to cheese max level skills

[visual stirrup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3ZMly9YAPA

If any of you can tolerate white man video essays, this might be worth a peek.

New World is a "hardcore" game where the players ruin each other's fun and engage in habits that ruin their own immersion and fun for the sake of advantage. Very familiar to anybody who has played Tarkov.

[fluid heron]

forgot what i was even mad about that new player tag and asking about gamma in here got me furious

[green dust]

Yeah that is what I had a doubt about I thought they removed the option for free download to preffer the GOG version

[fluid heron]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-coach-buzzcut-gif-8246850653753537154

[minor cypress]

How would you think that????

[green dust]

Help a clueless kid out please 🥺

[visual stirrup]

this is the meme channel
many of us haven't played, installed, or updated GAMMA in months

another channel will better be able to help you

[fluid heron]

anyways the main issue i have with tarkov and extraction shooters like it i dont have the fucking time to no ife it

i cant fucking shit there and practice that shit day in and day out

[green dust]

Okay thanks

[visual stirrup]

#🔨base-gamma-support

[fluid heron]

so im inevitebly gonna get fucking shit on

[green dust]

Thanks

[fluid heron]

and its just not fun to lose and lose and lose

and you can say oh well youre just getting filtered

if the game is being filtered by the fact you have fucking losers with nothing to do but play the game day in day out

why bother

[raven python]

you can always start on pve and go on pvp after you learn the maps, quests etc

and it becomes easy afterwards u just gotta learn to fight ppl

[fluid heron]

and its still just as miserable

ive been through this dont you worry

it doesnt get better

deepwoken somewhat has this issue but man atleast those people have some sort of understanding or reasoning you just die in tarkov from a bullshit angle instantly

its just games gatekept by their fucking loser community

while their devs dont try to address it or try to ease the experience

[raven python]

y do u play extraction shooters if u seem like u dont like the whole concept of a extraction shooter

extraction shooters are built upon someone who grinded more to have an advantage

[fluid heron]

because games like hunt showdown do it so well\

the advantage is minimal

even at level 1 you have insanely strong options

arc raiders you have strong options

tarkov you are just going to get fucking molested

level 1 hunt showdown

dum dum springfield with fast fingers

body shot if they dont stop bleed in 3 seconds THEY FUCKING DIE

arc raiders the kettle absolutely shreds

even at the highest level is still a competitive option

[raven python]

tbf in tarkov u can also hit anyone in the face with low level bullets and if theyre not wearing an altyn theyre pmuch dead

[fluid heron]

when are you running into people that arent running that

thats the issue

[raven python]

every raid

nobody is wearing all that to get shot in the throat

[lapis zinc]

make sure to ask for the helper flop and call him a twink, he loves that

[narrow lotus]

yeah that is why wipes are important for tarkov

[lapis zinc]

if not him then ask for delight hes a great and active helper 😊

[visual stirrup]

and Nikita says that there won't be any wipes when Tarkov is finished

[fluid heron]

tarkov is just a time sink if you dont sink an insane amount of time you are gonna have a fucking horrific experience

[narrow lotus]

is hard to get into the game 8 months in when everyone is juiced up , im pretty sure most people that grinded their account to max do not want to prestige and do it again

i know i dont

[fluid heron]

its terrible

[narrow lotus]

Tarkov Prestige is pretty shit

[raven python]

ye most ppl who are prestiged rn did it start wipe

[fluid heron]

and while you are sinking that time in its fucking awful

the game is gatekept by its own fucking mechanics

[green dust]

I was in this discord before

And no mod likes this

[fluid heron]

probably shoudlnt imply you are an alt of an account

[green dust]

This is the main account

[narrow lotus]

you are getting muted if u tell randoms to insult helpers in the helper chat

[green dust]

I was on my alt before

[fluid heron]

welp

[narrow lotus]

keep the jokes in the joke channel

[narrow lotus]

[fluid heron]

only those with seniority like me can call flop a twink

[split canyon]

@tidal trellis ⠀

[raven python]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DX6WLefJk_4/?igsh=MTMxYXlxdjdwcGkyeg==

[arctic pawn]

me

[fluid heron]

genjutsu gotta be the scariest shit of all time

imagine being put under a bad shroom trip at any time by some fucking guy

[raven python]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DXveoBrgXUG/?igsh=d280b2RobndnNjhx

what was the horse thinking yo

[fluid heron]

https://tenor.com/view/tsukyomi-itachi-uchiha-gif-19455503

[fluid heron]

bro was being tortured for 3 days straight in the span of like 3 seconds

and then genjutsu becomes fucking useless

[raven python]

all da chopped bihes hiding behind masks like its covid 😔

[fluid heron]

show me that big ass nose

[fluid heron]

idf agent

a based trad wife is just an onlyfans model and a gae husband

[pale ingot]

dude @fresh rose that gacha game put me on some crazy sleep. i got KO'd for like 11 hours

[raven python]

slop overdrive

[pale ingot]

secret method to good sleep is play shitty ass gacha games?

[raven python]

did u play that new gacha game

[thick wadi]

most rougelikes make me fall asleep quickly from boredom

[arctic pawn]

i play bladurs gate

its a good bedtime story

[raven python]

baldurs gate is like one of the biggest mass manufactured slop games out there i swear

everytime i see a medieval fantasy its insta slop

[fluid heron]

what

[raven python]

no matter how 'le detailed' the game is

[arctic pawn]

fed up with too many medieval games i suppose

[fluid heron]

out of your fucking mind

[arctic pawn]

i still like it

[raven python]

every rpg game is a medieval slop bro

[arctic pawn]

you just dont like the genre

[fluid heron]

would you like the role play as a mcdonalds worker?

[arctic pawn]

doesnt make it bad

[raven python]

medieval fantasy is mega oversaturated

[arctic pawn]

not that i like baldurs gate, not my kind of game

[fluid heron]

love baldurs gate

its fun you get to make retarded choices and the game never tells you its bad

do whatever the fuck you want

[pale ingot]

yea

[solar breach]

i listened to all 3 hours of ts while playing planet crafters toxicity mod

[raven python]

is the gameplay good

[pale ingot]

played for 3 hrs fell asleep for 11 hrs

[fluid heron]

yes

[pale ingot]

its the same as every other gacha game bro

[raven python]

so you just hit random enemies

all day

[pale ingot]

pretty much

[raven python]

and get a new hoe

which does it better

[pale ingot]

pretty muxh

[fluid heron]

nevermind talking about gacha shit

yeah its all the fucking same

[pale ingot]

i liked endfield the most just because it switched up shit a little with the factory aspects of the game

[fluid heron]

stat check the video game

[solar breach]

its a breath of fresh air since it limits what you can place

its not just like the other planets where you can slam down optimizers and a few t5 machines and finish it

and its much better than humble

[pale ingot]

jesse what the fuck are you on about

[raven python]

ye i was wondering too

what is he talm about

[fluid heron]

jesse you are talking about some straight bullshit

[pale ingot]

hes talm bout this nvm

[fluid heron]

gacha = bad

[raven python]

gacha games dont take much to make them actually really good, i would love genshin if like the rewards for going around n getting shit was 10x and everything wouldnt be incredibly tedious

[fluid heron]

spend money to get slightly better characters and spend more money to upgrade those charactesr to stat check everything when in the next week they add a new character thats better at doing everything so your ape brain goes and spends more money

[raven python]

ye thats the issue with them pmuch

[fluid heron]

waste of time and money

and braincells

[pale ingot]

genshin at one point for me hit like a fucking wall where leveling took ages

so i just didnt wanna do that shit anymore

[raven python]

ye thats exactly what im talking about

like

[pale ingot]

it was kinda poop ass dookie

[raven python]

it was so good in first 40 levels

then it was like

[fluid heron]

its an attempt at getting your ape brain to associate numbers with rewards like a fucking ai

[pale ingot]

exactly

[raven python]

bro ur telling me im supposed to grind 5 hours for 1 pull

and starting to play these gachas after theyve been out for years

[pale ingot]

its good that other gacha games dont make you grind that bad just to gamble for anime girls but none of these games are that good man

[raven python]

like ur done

u missed out on too much

[pale ingot]

btw

i made the stats on the current neverness to everness playable characters

[fluid heron]

the only gacha game i ever gotinto was dragon ball legends

[pale ingot]

so

[fluid heron]

and i never spent a fucking dime

[raven python]

if someone made a modded genshin which actually fixed the grind

id love playing that

but hoyo takes those mfs down instantly

[pale ingot]

15 playable characters
4 straight up kids
3 of questionable age
3 men
5 look ok

[fluid heron]

now that im thinking about it destiny 2 was a gacha game

[raven python]

i mean kids or not kids i despise the sexualization of women in these games

like they do NOT have to look that slutty bro

[fluid heron]

grind for hours and hours for some bullshit to make you slightly better at one thing

[minor cypress]

Or just play ARPGs to get the incremental thrill of a gacha without sacrificing your wallet

I miss grinding the fuck out of diablo 3

[pale ingot]

oh dude theres one that straight up moans and freaks on it in half her voicelines hold on

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784466587134459956/1500880735421075717/image.png?ex=69fab45c&is=69f962dc&hm=c31062fba6f7181f1d7f6d0171cd8d3ab61071479b57cc7c04c96358e70535b0&

[fluid heron]

hold on let me find this gacha character that moans and squirts

next fucking level

[pale ingot]

sir yes sir

[minor cypress]

Closer to ARPG instead of gacha

[pale ingot]

dude i took screenshots for iedy its finee

[raven python]

'ehe guys shes like a nympho isnt that so random and le cute th-' NO UR A PORN ADDICT GO AWAY

i mean tbf

gacha community had it coming

getting their wallets drained

cause they cant ever ask for the devs to make a good game

[minor cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-league-of-legends-evelynn-demon-gaming-gif-14050304

[raven python]

just add more whore women

[pale ingot]

they covered all the bases for the gacha player archetypes bro

[visual stirrup]

total gooner death

[pale ingot]

they added whores, buff men and children

[visual stirrup]

exterminate gooners

bash a gooner over the head with a hard drive

[raven python]

ye its crazy to me no one under average or atleast average in these games

[visual stirrup]

dropkick a gooner into traffic

[raven python]

the dudes are always tall as fuck buff etc

if theyre not buff theyre femboys

[minor cypress]

Next they will add buff women

[visual stirrup]

rip a gooner's genitals off

[raven python]

if theyre short theyre also female coded too

[visual stirrup]

buff children when?

[pale ingot]

see thas what im lookin for

nah but fr

evil ass gooner games bro

[raven python]

oliver

[naive bison]

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/2051025892991016960/pu/vid/avc1/720x720/AtdTxxtZunMhBbD-.mp4?tag=25

[minor cypress]

Companies running around being evil dopamine dealers

[raven python]

never once they actually try to make any of their chars look hard as fuck

like we need hard mfs that go hard as fuck

[umbral field]

Just grab some pepper spray...

[raven python]

we need aura maxxers and hype moments in the games to save them

[umbral field]

Or a glock

[fluid heron]

you pull dragon ball super broly in dbsl

got damn

[umbral field]

I say don't get a taser because they can sue you if they hit the ground wrong

[raven python]

unironically i think skullgirls started this whole anime goonification of any fighting game

[fluid heron]

skullgirls did not try at all

with hiding it at least

every character had big bouncing tits

[pale ingot]

i remember seeing some arknights (not endfield) characters and they went a little hard

[fluid heron]

https://tenor.com/view/parasoul-skullgirls-gif-15287324609064565693

[minor cypress]

Nah bro fighting games have been goonerbait since chun li existed.

[fluid heron]

big band is still fire as fuck

[raven python]

Buddy theyre women, they dont go hard unless they got cool scars n cool oufits that ARE NOT revealing

[pale ingot]

just go look some up i dunno i dont remember

[fluid heron]

https://tenor.com/view/skullgirls-fighting-games-lab-zero-games-big-band-ora-ora-ora-gif-18215245

[raven python]

i meant more anime style games, skullgirls undeniably sparked it back up

mortal kombat and street fighter both went into the more 'realistic' graphics art style rigamaro

[fluid heron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfXl0in43Tc

[minor cypress]

True

[raven python]

buddy i said not revealing

[fluid heron]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[pale ingot]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sadness-yellow-emoji-floating-NQ5aPNX1cQjxT7KP9M

isnt that one from mushoku tensei

that manga is kinda fucked up fr rn

[minor cypress]

Ghislaine Dedoldia. No clue what's going on with the show rn

Tbh i just wish we got more woman characters thats entire existance wasn't just eyecandy, without it feeling like purposeful pandering

[raven python]

i dont even know whats up with those story mfs brains

like it takes 1 normal human being

to think

hmmmm if anyone is seen walking outside like that how fast would they be called a whore

[pale ingot]

oh dude the most recent chapters are like ||the main character watched his dad die in front of him, he watched his mother that he'd made his objective to find for like 10 years go mentally retarded the moment she woke up from a state of suspended animation, then cheated on his wife with his childhood teacher because he was in a fucked up mental state or sm||

[minor cypress]

Ermmmm she breathes through her skin so she needs to be mostly nude or she suffocates.

https://tenor.com/view/hideo-kojima-gif-15177583469234639119

[minor cypress]

Oh so just authors thinly veiled fetish slop

[pale ingot]

probably lol lmao

[minor cypress]

Many such cases

I don't get too pressed over the gooner shit, its just mostly annoying.

[raven python]

this is one of the biggest issues, a lot of these 'things' are designed with the whole 'oh lets make the protag a loser so its relatable and lets make like turbo bad bitches like him cause of course'

[minor cypress]

It just says a company/artist is too lazy to give actual content. Just throw some tits on it and send the slop

[raven python]

this genre needs 2 die

[minor cypress]

Artists have been self inserting since forever, thats never gonna change.

[raven python]

the last anime ive seen where the protags were actually hard asf was baki

n thats all

most of the other animes just have some soy betas as protag

but apparently they know it all n are turbo powerful smhow

[minor cypress]

Bro just stop watching isekai slop then

[raven python]

this applies to almost anything

tho

[minor cypress]

Thats 99% of the problem

[raven python]

any genre is like this

almost everything is made for lonely losers thats the root problem

[minor cypress]

Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust goes hard

Iron blooded orphans too

[pale ingot]

tap in on dorohedoro

idk about the protag being hard af he a little silly but

its a great manga. or anime if you wanna watch the anime

[raven python]

reading manga is lowk boring tho ngl like its tryna mix a show and a book and it doesnt get the good parts of a book nor a show

so its like dam

[pale ingot]

idk i been reading manga for a few years now i like it

[raven python]

ye but its hard 2 feel emotion or build up when reading something

[pale ingot]

anime never hit hard for me

[minor cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/cummins-gif-12535975135255283466

[pale ingot]

ok fair anime can do that better

but like

[minor cypress]

Someone can't visualize an apple in their mind

[pale ingot]

you can still care about shit if youre reading

TRUE

[raven python]

i can visualize everything in my mind the thing is like theres no fun in that

[minor cypress]

Thats just an attention span diff

[raven python]

if i wanted to make my own story

i would

i wanna see someones vision not my vision

also fights in manga like

[pale ingot]

looks like this guy cant rotate a 3d apple in his head

[raven python]

lets say u have a manga adapted into a anime, y would u ever read the manga unless u wanna get ahead so u dont wait for seasons to come out

[pale ingot]

dont feel like watching anime

[raven python]

ye tbf thats fair enough a lot of anime episodes are dragged out like insane

[minor cypress]

Because there can be adaptations to a story

[raven python]

like straight up 4 mins of mfs walking

[drifting mantle]

Anime and Manga are both cringe

[pale ingot]

one piece pacing ruined anime as a whole for me dude its bleak

never watch one piece

just never

[minor cypress]

If the core story is good, you can enjoy different interpretations

[fluid heron]

simply just dont watch it

just read the mangey

[pale ingot]

true

[fluid heron]

watching one piece is a massive fucking waste of time

[minor cypress]

Or reading a manga, seeing a show, and praying the show got things right

[raven python]

ok an example for u imagine watching those hard ass invincible fights in the show n then turning to the comic

like sure comic is cool but the show adds that oompf to it

[fluid heron]

they try to stretch out 1-2 chapters insto a fucking 20-30 minute episode

[pale ingot]

thats what im thinking abt the dorohedoro show right now. cause the manga was absolute peak but idk shit about the anime

[fluid heron]

it simply does not work

[fluid heron]

3d animation that isnt terrrible somehow

[minor cypress]

Best example. Read berserk. Watch berserk anime. See if it was adapted well

[pale ingot]

is it not like the 3d berk

[minor cypress]

I hate it when that happens

[fluid heron]

god 3d berk is an affront to any manga

[pale ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-walk-walking-gif-18159410

[fluid heron]

3d berk was adapted so fucking poorly it should be a case study

[minor cypress]

Seriously. Its bad when the best we got is golden age arc

[pale ingot]

cause i heard dorohedoro was made 3d so i got worried

[fluid heron]

taking the single most detailed panel work of any manga and turning it straight to shit

[minor cypress]

Meanwhile sloppenheimer one piece/demon slayer/jjk aka zoomer naruto gets buku budget.

[raven python]

o ye i hate the overglazing of jjk animation

[fluid heron]

you get fucking panels like this

[pale ingot]

dude no demon slayer and jjk were both genuinely mid manga listen

ok i read both

[fluid heron]

just intricate HAND DRAWN depictions

[minor cypress]

Please, before 2030, just give me a berserk anime that does it justice.

[pale ingot]

jjk was honest to god 5/10 nothing special not memorable at all

i dont remember shit that happened in the manga

demon slayer was 4/10 mid story not memorable

[minor cypress]

Jjk is just zoomer naruto. Change my mind

[pale ingot]

because if you read the manga these shows arent carried by their mega high budget animation

[fluid heron]

all of this was drawn by hand

[minor cypress]

With a bit of bleach sprinkled in

[fluid heron]

no programs nothing

[pale ingot]

you just see the raw story

which there isnt much of

[fluid heron]

just fucking gorgeous

[minor cypress]

Except they don't say bankai

[pale ingot]

absolute peak

[raven python]

i only hate jjk cause the annoying band kids love jjk

[minor cypress]

Peak

[pale ingot]

domain expansion instead

[fluid heron]

i like jjk its great probably the single best anime ost of all time

bleachs ost is fucking amazing

[minor cypress]

I like it, but its not my top 10

[fluid heron]

but jjks ost is on another level

[minor cypress]

Jjk is a solid 6/10

[pale ingot]

jjk isnt even bad i just dont care about it

[minor cypress]

Animation is solid. But its just naruto + bleach

[pale ingot]

it wasnt memorable

[fluid heron]

i would give jjk a 10/10 manga wise if the community wasnt fucking RETARDED

when people say just seperate the community from the art

[pale ingot]

5/10 manga at best

[fluid heron]

its kinda hard when the community is full of mouth breathing retards

i thought it was great

[pale ingot]

i didnt like it

[minor cypress]

Don't say that too loud, you'll wake xal up

[fluid heron]

waiting on more chapters of gachiakuta

that shits realy good

[raven python]

made in abyss anime and community are both dogshit terrible

[fluid heron]

and whats that one manga that the creator of tokyo ghoul is making

choujin x

forgot it

[pale ingot]

ok wait so tokyo ghoul

listen

[fluid heron]

tokyo ghoul

fire

[pale ingot]

the manga and the anime. are completely different stories

[fluid heron]

yes

for sure

the manga is way better

[pale ingot]

the manga is good

the anime is ass

[fluid heron]

mhm

[pale ingot]

[fluid heron]

re was done so fuckin dirty

[pale ingot]

i liked re, the manga

[fluid heron]

yep

the anime just fucked it

and since most people are anime watchers re is just considered dogshit

while the manga is really good

[pale ingot]

main story was fucked by the anime too like bro what are we doing

[fluid heron]

for tokyo ghoul the anime wasnt good but didnt fuck over the source material nearly as hard

[minor cypress]

One piece really did irrevocable damage to anime

[pale ingot]

i think it still kind of did

pretty badly

[fluid heron]

re was an actual bastardization

[minor cypress]

You can't tell me you gotta wait until episode 568 for it to get good.

[pale ingot]

i dotn even wanna remember the re anime

[fluid heron]

its why i just read the mangy

its just simply better

[raven python]

re? like resident evil or what

[pale ingot]

i dropped it on episode 680 in the middle what people told me is "the best arc" because it was dogshit

[fluid heron]

so basically there was tokyo ghoul

and then tokyo ghoul re

[fluid heron]

tokyo ghoul re was basically second season if a first season consisted of an insane amount of plot

and the anime fucked up on both

[pale ingot]

i liked the ending of re, the manga

[fluid heron]

i liked it too

[minor cypress]

I half expected the cock edit

[pale ingot]

i might reread the series at some point and try to purge any memories of the anime from my mind

[fluid heron]

you had kaneki push through everything the hundreds he had killed the guilt to arrive to a family

it was pretty fucking good

https://tenor.com/view/kaneki-centipede-ken-kaneki-mgtr-gif-24188156

considering this is what he was at

[pale ingot]

isnt kaneki just straight up like a murderer and a crazy person with no more character development in the anime

[fluid heron]

pretty much

[minor cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-tetsuo-tetsuo-shima-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-12118377099744361472

[fluid heron]

hes basically just a purposeless killing machine

[pale ingot]

even in this stage in the manga he was still represented as trying to fight it and not go coocoo and shit

[fluid heron]

in the manga he realises how fucking awful that is and begins to fight for people

[fluid heron]

yes when he fucking stabs through banjou

and just breaks down

[pale ingot]

in the anime he like joins aogiri or something right

[fluid heron]

nah

[pale ingot]

really retarded

no but i remember it was sm lkke that

[fluid heron]

for major plot points its pretty faithful

but for character development hell no

takizawa still my goat

[pale ingot]

isnt he saved by the cast from anteiku after the whole torture thing with jason

in the manga

i dont remember if that happened in the anime

[fluid heron]

nope he breaks out kills jason and eats most of his kakuhou

[pale ingot]

well after that

i know he still does that

[minor cypress]

Promised neverland was peak until season 2 ruined everything

[fluid heron]

nope he pulls up on touka nad her borther

[pale ingot]

idk i have to reread sometime

[fluid heron]

and then breaks half of ayatos bones

then he meets up with everyone from anteiku and says hes gonna do his own shit

[pale ingot]

i was thinkin bout some other series hold on fuck

[fluid heron]

then he basically goes even more insane

with the half kakuja and cannibalism

[pale ingot]

i forgot what i was gonna yap about

[minor cypress]

They build up a fantasic show, then speedran the plot in season 2 and pulled a game of thrones

[pale ingot]

OH YEAH

[fluid heron]

ive read all of tokyo ghoul and re like 6 times

[pale ingot]

CHAINSAWMAN

[dusk raven]

the one puh

[pale ingot]

IS

ASS

[fluid heron]

the ending was both emotionally pulling and half assed

i dont know

[pale ingot]

well ok the first part of chainsawman is good

after makima dies the show falls off

[raven python]

i hate csm because of the fans glazing the ever living fuck out of that

[fluid heron]

nah when nayuyas fucking head is shown that shit hit a peak

[raven python]

csm fans will swear csm is like the best show ever

[pale ingot]

the ending was literally the equivalent of getting cucked

[fluid heron]

it was really good

[pale ingot]

gg

[raven python]

i think personally csm was incredibly boring, when they started bringing bitches like reze and the other slut looking one

it was over

also when they killed power

[fluid heron]

power was great

[pale ingot]

but like honestly how are csm fans gonna get cucked by their mangaka and then be like "BUT ITS PEAK THO!!"

[fluid heron]

i dont think its peak it was really good

[raven python]

csm fans watching the mangaka drool over his self insert dating hot women

[pale ingot]

again, the first part (until makima dies) was great, then the 2nd part just falls off

[fluid heron]

it kinda had the same shit as attack on titan where it rapidly became a politcal game

and then eren fucking genocided the world population

https://tenor.com/view/wall-titans-rumbling-rumbling-aot-titans-in-water-eren-rumbling-gif-25312555

[raven python]

the biggest issue with chainsawman is that the anime/manga was built upon characters being super important, a lot of the story of the manga was just makima n power

so when u removet hem

what else do you have

you have nothing