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They gotta swap rices
are you paying for the rice lol
Iām not sure
better too much than too little, went to some modern indian restaurant they gave tiny bit
white demon cannot read the room
It's to prank you with smaller portions of the actual entrƩes
peak dialouge
Im exaggerating but yes they were like tiny metal bowls
they are 2nd generation
or its just a shit restaurant
What do you mean modern Indian
indian food with western food and saftey requirments
Lmao
š
Boo racism
bro its not even racist
it really is that bad in some places
like street corners / street food
Modern as in it doesnt feel indian the place nor the everything about it
dont you get friendly other races (except jiralhanae, fuck 'em) in halo 2 and 3? or am I stoopid
Ok but, Iāve never seen that
I have
POV:
You were invited to an indian dinner party
Usually its all Indian food
it isnt a true desi resturant if there isnt a picture in black and white of a guy on a horse with a sword
It feels Indian
have you been to india
And they play the hari Krishna chant the whole time
the white man's stomach cannot handle the superiority of Indian food
No
then how tf do you know
well white woman in this instance
Have you stepped outside
i think the correct thing to say would be "I know how American Indian restaurants are"
I live in colorado
no
jail.
american = cali
hes so north african pilled he assumes everyone is californian
I went to 3 Indian restaurants in Japan
They were extremely similar to American ones
Real I want it to smell spices and have carpets everywhere
because they arent in India or pakistan
so true, america is literally just Texas, California and New York 
So you think you have to go to the place to know the vibe
the 3 genders
Yeah you do
if you ever go to cali go to a place called "SHALIMAR GRILL" its family owned chain in norcal and most of them are immigrants thats where you will find the correct desi experience
but I'm in Georgia 
yes you do for the "original experience" or "a true X restaurant"
that's not true
it was some other shit
Thatās stupid
they denied a white guy from europe for that tho
What was it
We live in a global world
I'm sorry to hear that 
yea but im pretty sure because of something else
Authentic Indian restaurants exist in America
and they used the image to clickbait
robert why are you even trying to argue this
yes they do but its literally impossible to know unless you have visited the country
you get a small taste
an imitation
IF THE SEAT'S LEATHER IS NOT TORN, OR IF YOU DO NOT EAT ON THE FLOOR THEN IT ISNT AUTHENTIC
"authentic" resturants will give everyone a plate of something for themselves
Lmao
It is not
Eat on the floor while sm1 goes around throwing food
while the orignial expierence is everyone eating communily
like you got 4 people all sitting around with nan or the alternative and they eat from the same plate
tbf I saw what was probably a recently arrived Indian family using hands at a Chinese restaurant ~the other day~~ years ago 
is it not the orignial experience you would have in india?
the white man telling the brown man his own culture
The food is what makes it authentic food
wym using hands
it isnt only the food it is THE WAY YOU EAT aswell
no utensils 
šš» š„
Doubt
that's fine if you clean your hands 
i think i did that literally once in pakistan because my cousin is retarded and he forgot utensils
but it was with rice
if you're hands are so dirty that you need a metal spoon that's your problem
and i washed my hands before and after
i dont get how if you dont eat in the og way it is still an authentic experience
Grab bread and pick food up
if i eat like asian food without chopsticks is it still an authentic experience???
yeah that's why he's the white demon
its so obivious
ping unlikelyprocessed and ask him if he can eat nasi goreng with chopsticks 
It is
Thatās why a majority of the restaurants in Japan have forked and spoons now
Are you gonna say thatās not authentic
In Japan
For the tourists
Is it authentic?!?
"majority"
in tokyo maybe 
Mmm no
I went all over man
They all have forks and spoons
Ok we are just memeing now
no it isnt because IT ISNT THE ORIGINAL WAY OF EATING FOOD
robert is ragebaiting again
I was at a restaurant without forks
At the risk of sounding like I'm moving the goalpost, aren't there actual dishes not meant to be eaten with forks or spoons?
is eating a burger with a knife and fork authentic????
why is he ragebaiting every time when i'm in this chat
Japan
does he just do that
This is a pivot of your original point Alex
yes like a shawarma
And itās still wrong
I mean they exist in japan 
If you get it from a burger place in Germany
YES
but like
you can try to turn shawarma into sushi and eat it with fork
The meal is authentic
i've seen done it with cigkofte
sushi is classically a hands meal 
but you can eat it with fork
you mean hamburg steak which isnt even close to the modern day burger??
No I mean a fucking burger you ape
No you can eat like, a sandwich with fork and knife
Really
its legit just ragebait
Thatās ok
CALLING THE BROWN MAN AN APE???
so racist
So if i eat sushi with hands nobody will look in japan
Iāll get over it Alex

Literally no
its legit just ragebait lol theres no point in arguing it
They didnāt even give utensils at the sushi place
What did u eat with
we need a japanese person to confirm this chat
My hands :(
They gave out little towels though
I love eating with hands
With antiseptic
alright, let me squint my eyes real quick
Iirc but it has fallen out of favor
Like, HISTORICALLY eaten with bare hands
nice I dont have to use chopsticks for it next time i visit
I think italian pasta also is hands

use the chopsticks 
And as we all know, āhistoricallyā means authentic
Vro chopsticks take so little food
if i go into a indian resturant and they give out utensils im leaving it
and im NEVER going back there
Pause
if they do not hand out nan first, DO NOT go there
if they do NOT have dishes named after cultural stuff or reigons of the country DONT GO BACK
Is this out of poverty or just normal
probably poverty
ping falco and ask him
And as we all know, if got donāt eat the noodles with your bare hands, itās not real!
Do you guys eat eggs with utensils or pick it up with bread
Both
bread
ah no, @prime zenith it was just a napolitan thing
y'know what, lemme ping @grizzled meadow to be sure.


@grizzled meadow your alarms going off
IL WURSTEL IMMENSO
wait fr??
this happened like 2 months ago
wow
check the pins in offtopic
everyone just got sick of his shit and bloodofsniper pulled the trigger
they were gonna demote him then he left
it was the most glorious moment.in the entirety of this stupid fucking server
no they werent
people getting sick and tired of his autistic ass should have been earlier
they were just gonna ban him
they demoted him and he left, then he got banned
yea
because he was like some rightoid racist or smth
no
the other was because he was such a fuckhead
blood had a long list on him and were gonna demote him
what the fuck
he was this for a long time
not for a long time but always
he was a minimod in stalker gen and i think falco like a retard made him a mod
Bro why do retards feed the birds
according to falco he did stop being a retard for some time when he got mod perms
ah yes i questioned mods why they gave him that role
They shit on everything and yell every morning 
It makes them happy
if he never got promoed
and they needed someone who understood russian at the time
he would have never been such a fuckhead prolly
They keep shitting on my car
Ok just looked at the pinned video and holy cinema
Literally no point in washing it
Skill issue
wishing for too much
Josta was just contrarianism if it manifested as a person
retard was a wanna be mod in newbchat but then constantly rage baited people there with his stupid useless arguments
i was like that too but i never policed people
a lot of people in offtopic are contrarians too
it just happens that josta can mute and shit
no josta would just ban a lot of the time
ive noticed offtopic is more depressing than brainfart. but not as depressing as the russian chats
bro legit had a fit when he saw more than 2 gifs
how did he end up getting mod in the first place? I'm not knowledgeable of the lore
oh idk about that because i think i have like 10 messages in there
depends
Is sralnya depressing?
he would mini mod in stalker chat / newbie chat
Offtopicā¦
he did it so much that they promoed him for some retarded reason
wanna be mod in stalker newb and offtopic
the unemployment is strong
i really wanted to send him a funny meme where its a cat talking about how theyre gonna up a switch and arp on him
#1092834455300866068 was also plagued with his contrarian ass, not a mod author but acted like he owned stalker gamma
but he would just ban me
he downvoted every thread
did you steal this from an AI or just happen to know this btw 
take a guess
"I wanna suggest this addition"
"Uhh no that wouldnt work my dad works for stalker gamma i would know, your stupid for even thinking this"
It's a critical part of being a metreur? 
no
I mentioned this once in newbies and bro got angry at me for it btw
to be a metreur you need to know what 3d is
Lucky I didn't catch a ban lmfao
More than I could possibly know
i had retards who legit made it to 3rd semester
not knowing what height is
i was shocked
your mistake for talking to moderators, i just have them permablocked
based
If hes losing an argument in a suggestion thread he would lock it 
wait so, just length and width?
Whats a metreur
no it's basically calculating volume
and some girl there asked me to explain
legit had to explain what height is
i was fucking shocked
I know them from Kingdom Come

quantity surveyor and price study
no we were talking about kcd too kek
I wonder how some people actually continue to survive day to day
He thought it was a cum joke (it was but I couldnt technically avoid it)
wow u are so intelligent


He's a special kind of construction tradie that exists in the French tradition but I'm too stupid to understand why it exists
so canonically it turned him on
oh no it's called a quantity surveyor but it might as well be a kilometer (we have no idea what those are in the usa)
Yeah i watched that, absolute cinema
that's the full name
price study included
state of amurrican maths educations
man I feel so bad for gen alpha rn
My maths is cooked
American school system is so fucking bad in its current state
it's okay they can just go to kumon 
Thats what I get for sleeping every lesson since baby
Men will see this and say "wife"
i still remember when mods took out the invictus role and he tried to take sole credit of it
such a truthnuke
its not even worth doing good in studies for anyway
I know it's a lukewarm take atp but it's true
He was such a bitch lmao
That is so pathetic
i also remember him muting people that tag flop there and call him a twink
"harassing staff members"
bro instantly shot down anything vaguely LGBT adjacent afaik as well
i think he was genuinely autistic
It belongs to brainfart tbh 
He has a dofus/wakfu pfp now no?
just say shit like "keep this meme in brainfart" or something
he obviously hates that topic 
I can relate. I am intensely homophobic as I hate myself.
oh he's awake now
@grizzled ingot NASI GORENG WITH CHOPSTICKS YES OR NO? 

its gonna be difficult tho
Cody Kessler LFG
Lets fucking GOOOOO
You know I joked about it but I josta was probably actually unemployed
lame
LETS FREAKING GET (It)
why abbreviate something like that
I'm gonna use formaldehyde as a hair preservation medicine
i thought being a server moderator was his job
it makes no sense
kinda stinky innit?
no shot
that was a joke
Unfortunately I'm retarded
surely he doesnt consider moderating a discord server a job
do you perchance have the "crying wont un___ you" madden gif perchance
surely.
i have bush did 911
You wouldn't believe how retarded some people can be
I get suprised every day
i do too
hello forter how are ya
I remember somebody asking josta what job he did and he goes "I'm an engineer"
And they ask him what kind
Social engineer
tf2
And he's like "I don't have a degree or anything but I could totally do engineering"
???
Erectin.
Something along the lines
melting
its too hot out
and i dont have my office chair yet so i have to use a shitty plastic shell chair
Do you by chance live in the Midwest
oh thatās SO not gonna help
go open the fridge and sit infront of it
My gifs is a minefield
good cooling
nah its alright
mine is too
Recent heatwave has kicked my ass
how are you doin :3
This baby is safe
incapacitated due to stomacheache lmao
"He is clothed and not nude, therefore is not in violation of the server rules."
Least armed child in Kyrgyzstan
that 1 dollar noodle meal was a trap
poor fella
a trap i tell you

What the fuck
I'm not ballsy enough to push them that much
i regret spending time here

When was this in the bible
Roman's 23:13
Before sodom and gamorrah got taken out I think
I JUST SCROLLED PAST A GIF OF A SQUIRREL BEING FLUSHED DOWN A TOILET
Classic

"Hate the sin and not the sinner"
the goat jerkin it 
2 can play that game 
xal why do you always stare at people
Xal is retarded.
he stares at them and imagines them NAKED
3 picoseconds no fent
YOOOO LEBRON GUMPIN IT
If you wear the hat sam says peko
This is just the average night spotting in Tampa
Least nightmare-inducing American cryptid
Racoon hunting? Wrong. The local fentheads combined to form a singular mass and are now looking for brain matter to feed off of.
Canāt find that in florida
what the fuck is this
cum and nut bits
Strange hand gesture
Manic break
im boycotting this store
@quartz ridge fucking roaches in the room now
goddamn it
why the fuck did they stop spraying the sewers
retarded
i got the sameish issue
but theyre mainly in my garage
because my neighbor is a fucking incel who hasn't cleaned his back or front yard in literal years
all three species been spotted
granted there's still a pile of shit outfront that I NEED A TRUCK to take care of
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by shit I mean like random house things like a stroller for some reason
and those shitty vertical blins
African hissing cockroach
not yet
can I reach for your worm
No worm
welll because of roommmates and shit
they're all three
american, german and asian (waterbugs)
wait till they crawl into your foreskin
Aināt no way blur is uncut
... 
it's his nose
Just a little vore ok
I mean if you want to
Why is racemixing censored
facebook ig
mods, ban him for saying ra**mixing
More like raceMAXING
Which two letters are supposed to be in that gap
Pe
Woman š
damn
Is that u cup
l e g s
Couldn't tie the tie more whimsically, below mid
He js jorkerging it
Bet her thighs will go well with onion
what
bet she could mince garlic with those thighs
i will not pirate rimworld 
then stop bitching
tu suces le bite

so the thief himself leaked this talk ?
EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE


@heady crow
who is throwing animal pelts tho
thats how i always change 3 lanes
retarded cropping strikes again
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You're right im throwing
fit check
drip
i wanted to sleep yestrday but one fucking mosquito was flying in my room
i bruned him to death
i crushed one with a water bottle
Pepperoni
you know your mom best so you tell me
Pepperoni it is i guess
Pepperoni is the best pizza
Supreme is also great
still won't call you daddy
new proposed plan to upgrade a basic bridge
instead of dealing with homeless, rising costs for rental properties and drug/mental health
nah
what we need is a fancy ass bridge
to attract more tourists

none of this brings money, not until so many years later, at least
how do you still don't get the plot
TOURISM
hence why we have the fucking arena towndown
but who gives a shit for the sac kings
we're kinda a meh team
other than Webber and Bibby is notible names but
idk
point is we're trying to be competitive to the likes of SF, Berkley, San Jose and cities like that
Farming is a good work
we've expanded to a larger city but yet still have the small town mindset, other than being the capital of the state, being that we have the most stateworkers here, we don't have too much some art stuff like the crocker, music venues like Ace of Spades, Ironsides et al.
were never gonna be on par with LA or SF
but LA and SF are too bipolar to be the state's capital
like its chill here thats why its the capital
imagine if instead of saying LA riots its "CALIFORNIA'S CAPITAL, LA IS UNDER CONSTANT PROTESTING AND RIOTING!!"
lol
No one really cares about Sacramento lmao
kys
but true
nothing happens up here crow
Its not nothing happens its just
if there event are protests its deep downtown or like for a day or smth
No one knows Sacramento is a thing unless they are taking Naturalization test
Other than that its unheard of
other than the kings
like nobody else knows this shit exists
thats why its so peak
nothing ever happens
id be mad pissed if the USMC deployed to SAC 
They tried their best to block USMC coming from Camp Pendleton but USMC came from Palm Spring instead
Diversion 101
if it happened in sac a million south sacramento residents would up the switch and arp on the USMC
because gang activity is like barley alive in LA
its all crackheads / drug addicts now mainly
Yeh gang activity in LA is mainly uh
Mexican, bunch of wannabe
And fuck boy
Mostly its just the Mexicans
@slender rock I'm sorry your diabetic compatriots dismantled Sacramento so hard, I for one think it's cool (I have zero experience of it or America in general)
burger
i mean during the riots for person we stopped the assholes that just looted for the sake of breaking shit
we are a city of immigrate too as well so
Imagine Sacramento lmao
This statement was made by Orange County gang
this current shitshow with ICE we've been putting up a bit of a fight against them
brother just wait
we'll probably take orange county once we convince reno to be one of US
truckee is close
Look as long as I dont get deployed to stand in LA (the shit hole, the asshole of US) i am a happy man
almost
true
Fuck LA, give it to rioter, nothing of value will be lost
the whole "get immigrants out of here" notion used by a literal nation of immigrants is so hilarious
but then again, nazi shit was never sensible in any way at all
This entire protest is dumb
yeah, people forget what lady liberty has on her base
You are burning a flag of a country you want to be in, and proudly wave a flag of a country you dont wanna be in
well the whole point was to get illegal ones out
I just want a combo of meds that work so I don't feel like my birth was pointless man
shiit
i dont remember them crying abotu legal ones
except it's being done by idiots who can't tell legal ones from illegal ones
true
Big cock
and deporting someone already in the process of doing it so, legally
ICE literally grabbing anyone while their government inventing new silly reasons to renounce legal immigration status of more people
Big black cock
this was never about illegal immigrants, it was all about showing how Trump is getting shit doneā¢
funnily enough
and he is shitting alright
still got less out than obamna
more like how he's getting shit on everything else
Burgerland moment
So many item seller around me got deported
exactly
There was one guy sells mil gear for cheap and he was deported
Damn
Yoo cupper how are you doing?
America is like beyond a parody of itself
peak
Seems completely retarded looking from the outside
Hey @placid sail its all cool Sacramento and all
Atleast we dont have to handle San Diego shits
we enveloped ourselves
damn blur they're dissing me for backing you and your hood
are you cripz or bloodz tho
meh they're just blind to the realshitā¢
Seeing fent zombies doing their fold in the street must be crazy
neither
Im fabulous
Heās MS13
very nice
Max Gei Suckage
tiny rascal
I like how many big cities CA has
And everyone only knows LA
why do you have a cite for gangs 
Like its not even fun to visit that place for tourism
Its funny to see vietnamese gangster
that shit takes like 50 seconds
retarded ass captcha
We literally had a mob called "The Doctors"
Oriental boys

south viet prob
The US healthcare system is indeed a racket
I am from Lithuania
Looks fugging moldy
thats the point
Real it looks kinda gross ngl
eating mold
Tiny Little Rascalz 
who the fuck names a gang like that
mfers see herbs and shit themselves
mentally retarded individuals
I knew its a thing u fugging wetart
oh so you're having a laugh here then?
you a comedian?
a joker?
Ye
@placid sail essentially mid-late 80s to mid 90s sacramento was the wild west
found a 2009 photo of their leader being escorted, he got a life sentence.
it's hilarious how your burger brethren are like sac is middle of nowhere ahh and you insist NAH DOG WE HAVE GANGS AND SHIT AND IT USED TO BE WILD WEST HERE
like, I'm not sure those are selling qualities, but you do you
idk about gangs
but we had a cook dealer guy arrested some years back mfer had 3 villas being built who stayed in purgatory
nah dude I am not selling I just stating we have a strange history in sac
it's like a big city but also is smol
š
expansive but yet, little pockets of community lumps that just was kinda left to spread out
thats what she said
yep
modern village it is then
in a way, yes
but with more obesity and shitty drivers
ive done this while wearing headphones in public
just rip a fat one out
explains the awful smell
@river zealot @stone blade
@narrow lotus
yeah chinese trams iirc one already caught fire

romanian trams are peak
Have you come across those boat racing videos on insta? @narrow lotus
with the kid on the front
This or a sex scene that keeps going long enough to feel awkward.
its funny how offtopic is gae land now, and brainfart is racist land
the seperation is clear
i dont even remember giving gamersupps my email wtf
and also notice what channel ivan uses all the time
i love segregation!!!!!!!!
same
i sit in offtopic cuz brainfart is a cesspit of retards
the homo glows in the dark
can you glow a bit less bright please its hurting my eyes
cringe and unfunny offtopic vs based and retarded brainfart
offtopics sole purpose is for mods to shit and piss their pants over stupid shit and get removed
Xalrider speaking , achtung
What will Xal post ?
-
Political shit only he knows about
-
Political shit only he cares about
-
Dogshit ragebait opinion
look at him go
Frenchie from the boys having a gei relationship for no reason randomly
that is so real
I wrote it with the banned gei word first
big romantic ark for 3 seasons
especially since he ended up with Kimiko anyway because the fans exploded
bro kills the guy's family , fucks him , gulps on his cock then goes to the girl
ggs man ggs
also Hughie getting Sexually Assaulted every 3 episodes
Hughie being tricked by a shapeshifter and starlight treating it like he knowingly cheated on her
Meanwhile in reality its closer to hughie being raped if anything
Good writing and likeable heroes 
actually i remember now
back in like 2020 i watched a therussianbadger video and he was going on about his quacomole gamerfart drink and he mentioned that you could get a couple packets of the stuff for free using a link or whatever and i thought "thats funny im gonna get some" only to realize i still had to pay postage
nah like a class traitor, you're a traitor to the brainfarter community. you were once one of us, now you've gone away and come back you've changed. man you've CHANGED MAN!
we're gonna eat ivan flop can have his ass ig
Ivan sits in offtopic cause that's where all the furries are
you don't understand Ivanko's meaning
truth nuke
I probably don't I stepped away so
he says that brainfart is a cesspit of retards and hence he's in offtopic not because he's not one of them, but because it means his work here is done
hmm
so he's exploring the new territory
to increase the ranks of retards
he's a missionary of the extra chromosome
why is me cpu 83% in menu
if ww3 ever starts
btc miner
i5-11400f
Calculating every possible ricochet for a cheater bullet in next raid to hit your head
it has lower load in raid

No
How
whats the commandline say
Give brave a go
isnt it chromium
brave is cool but i recommend having firefox if youre gonna be doing any
activities on the internet
Yes but chromium itself is lean
The issue is how companies build on top of it
This is my usage for brave
~220mb for having youtube running and a few tabs with documentations
For stuff like that you should probably use Mullvad Browser
It cleans the profiles each time you restart it, just like Tor does it
Just without Tor
and as with all activities of this sort cant forget the vpn 
IVPN or Mullvad
No logs, all database entries are in memory, not on disk
NordVPN, Surfshark, Windscribe, all of those VPN's do log traffic
And Opera VPN is just NordVPN with extra steps
crazy
And don't fall for shit like DolphinAnty, Incognito Browser and so on, they "spoof" your browser but are usually detected as spoofed browsers and often times caught by cloudflare
does proton log traficc?
Idk but considering their previous changes to their mailing service, I wouldnāt bet on it not logging anything
what vpns would you recomend anyway
@vale sand are there any functional free vpns you know of
doesnt have to be like good or secure or anything
Both in the ballpark of around 5 - 6$ monthly
just gotta worrk 
proton
There are not, sadly
The free ones are usually raped beyond believe
in what sense
I canāt talk about that here but they are usually blacklisted from services like Stripe
But in general, they are rate limited everywhere, can lead to your account being shut down because it draws connections to different ones that broke the tos and so on
poor mullvad cite is pushing through mordor blocks like the last standing soldier
got aged by an evil spell to a 2007 cite
Thatās just the Russian version of the site
nah man, I've tried to refresh it, and now it's not even opening at all
poor guy is getting mauled by pirhanas
ivpn opens just alright, interestingly enough
I was kidding, it happens from time to time
Server being slow, maintenance
That a mole?
when any vpn cite barely works, I assume it's from mordor shenanigans
because most of them behave like that nowadays
even zapret doesn't help
very perceptive of you Clyde
Who???
But yeah, those are my recommendations, donāt know much about other vpn services outside of the ones that knowingly log traffic
Defeating the reason of having a vpn in the first place
well the reason is to bypass restrictions most of the time
probably forl ike 90% of vpn users
my technocrat son, you've become a billionaire, it is time to choose your new persona
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that much you got right
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stop pretending to be pakistani
and stop being a femboy
and another F word i'm not allowed to say
agreed
NO PROOF
you are a femboy which dont exist in my glorious PAKISTAN
I am pakistani too
We are all pakistani
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD!! šµš° šµš° šµš° šµš° šµš° šµš° šµš°

god forbid
I LOVE PAKISTAN I WILL SACRIFICE MY LIFE FOR PAKISTAN
i was gonna say something controversial
Oh start of new month tmmrw, means new pfp 
My own words are enough!
surely he will pick a masculine profile picture without twinks in it

Notice how nobody else feels the need to mention the desire to be controversial 
yeah people just say it

Because nobody else is a pussy like that, correct
Would you guys still love me if I was Azerbaijani
fuck you 
Depends
Will you smuggle wine over
All my pfps been normal!
you are going to lounge at a straight man
you are indeed gae flop
maybe in another life.... you could have been the first pakistani femboy... but in this once you are a Polish one
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absolutely not
700+ DLCs
well we don't love you as it is so I guess there's no loss here?
make this the pfp
no
or this
femboy ahhh
neither
add cartoonish cat ears, giant eyes and feminine attributes, and flop will gobble it in an instant
or this
Omori pfp it will be in accordance to the omori calendar, for each month 
no
im gonna dm you slurs the day i snap
that and thugs...
THIS is a femboy to you?
a so called... thug nuke.....
no he needs to change his pfp to be more MANLY



