🎪bruh-fart

[shell venture]

average serb cuck

[rocky geode]

HAHAHAH

[shell venture]

"erm it was ours"

[rocky geode]

that is SO funny

[pseudo robin]

https://tenor.com/view/türkiye-turkey-gif-11198383169865843648

[rocky geode]

you guys know you cant just steal land right? its not a bmw

[upper gulch]

🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🗿🐺🗿🐺🗿🇹🇷🗿🗿🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🦁🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🔥🇹🇷

[trim pulsar]

🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🗿🐺🗿🐺🗿🇹🇷🗿🗿🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🦁🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🔥🇹🇷

[rocky geode]

like its not an old womans purse its a country

[prisma venture]

guys u cant even shitpost look thats how its done

[pseudo robin]

this confuses the Serbian

[upper gulch]

1453 crashout + Fatih Sultan Mehmet + Orhan Bey + Türkiye sigma edit + CEO of Ottoman Empire + Prime Ottoman 🐺+ Mustafa Kemal Atatürk stare + Genç Osman + Turkiye op military 🇹🇷 🇹🇷 🇹🇷

[rocky geode]

[upper gulch]

tacno

[trim pulsar]

[rocky geode]

"seethe + cope" written in italic fountain pen

[pseudo robin]

the world trembles before the might of turkiye op military

[upper gulch]

exactly

[prisma venture]

i fucking love this one

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[rocky geode]

"please respond i showed u my captigon"

[rocky geode]

islamist mf be getting no pussy but they girls fine as hell

[rocky geode]

not a crumb

[pseudo robin]

Mashallah

[rocky geode]

too skinny no hips + ratio

plus she has BPD

[pseudo robin]

average discord user interaction with a woman

[upper gulch]

it was the first one i saw so dont attack messenger

[rocky geode]

thats not a woman thats a picture

theres a woman sleeping right next to me

i prefer the picture

[pseudo robin]

based

[upper gulch]

@rocky geode just for you

[keen scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920016996752564286/1380832550326501386/A29F5B36-B3E8-4401-91AA-F7108A1B7E63.gif

[prisma venture]

this so true

[rocky geode]

real and true u caught me

now pls come pick her ass up

u can have her snoring ass

[upper gulch]

i thought people snore with their mouth usually

[prisma venture]

sere pes v lese?

[upper gulch]

pes

pas

[prisma venture]

and now im gonna piss of many people

[rocky geode]

those polish hats are drip

[rocky geode]

if bros eyes were any closer together they would be on his nose

[upper gulch]

he looks like he belongs on american construction site

[rocky geode]

hes missing his hard hat and vest

not osha compliant

[prisma venture]

fuck i forgot this got lyrics i might get busted here

[upper gulch]

the mods are all romanians

dont speak srbhrv

[shell venture]

MASS REPORT
JANNIE ALERT 🔔

[prisma venture]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-turkiye-kaan-ozdil-man-gif-19334490

no

[shell venture]

ok i agree

[rocky geode]

LOL

[prisma venture]

i never tought this chat could be actauly funny

[rocky geode]

polish writing looks like zalgo text

[prisma venture]

1# is best imo

[lyric horizon]

13 hits hard

[rocky geode]

#1 chicken is best

[shell venture]

is it safe to like 12

idk what this is

[rocky geode]

polish chicken superior

better tasting

doesnt care about climate change

[lyric horizon]

Ye

[prisma venture]

https://tenor.com/view/pocket-sand-pocket-true-morgan-freeman-freeman-gif-8060449042279677595

[lyric horizon]

The later ones without the crown are commie

[prisma venture]

nah polish is easy

they dont have Ř

[rocky geode]

you just add Z to everything

and j

[lyric horizon]

say Ź

[prisma venture]

say ž

[shell venture]

zebi

[rocky geode]

say - ç

[shell venture]

it's spelled c btw

it's just a c that can't be spelled as a k

[lyric horizon]

not bad

[rocky geode]

ok now say p̵̅̂ȯ̸̊l̷̈͘a̸̔̆ń̶̚d̵̒̏

smart guy

[lyric horizon]

Say źdźbło

[rocky geode]

see? thats the same word i just typed

no difference between that and polish

[prisma venture]

im czech i speak alcohol

[lyric horizon]

long live visehrad

[shell venture]

zebi w 9lawi fi fomak

[prisma venture]

amen 🙏

[lyric horizon]

Czech beer is better than the polish one tbh

[prisma venture]

czech beer is the best beer out there man its okey

[rocky geode]

polish mf be like c̵̊͒ ̶͂̚ẗ̸̾ ̵͛̚h̷̿̑ ̷̂͛ǔ̵ l̴͐̈́ ̶̈́͋ù̶̑ ̷̔́r̶̄̉ ̴̀͌i s e s̶͘

[upper gulch]

leysh bt7ky 3rabi

[prisma venture]

but you have better vodka like all time

[lyric horizon]

Yee

Staropramen is pretty nice

[shell venture]

3lach la

[upper gulch]

[shell venture]

[lyric horizon]

But Budweiser Budvar

https://tenor.com/view/stunned-wow-omg-lego-batman-lego-batman-movie-gif-7647770

[rocky geode]

polish is like, if balkans were housebroken

just barely over the line

[lyric horizon]

Eastern Poland is just spiritual level balkans

[rocky geode]

yeah theyre just two balkans in a coat

[prisma venture]

AHHH yes czech cheap beer is the polish favorit cant blame u really its top 3 for me

[lyric horizon]

Cheap beer is legendary

Those few zloty pissers

[rocky geode]

beer is legendary

[prisma venture]

beer is eternal

[lyric horizon]

alcohol is legendary

[prisma venture]

boy

fuck

im gonna go for one

[lyric horizon]

Hooch is also nice

[rocky geode]

boy fucking is legendary

(not for the boy)

[prisma venture]

slivovica booooy

[lyric horizon]

add , inbetween boy and fucking

[shell venture]

too late

[rocky geode]

AT LEAST INCLUDE THE BOTTOM TEXT

[shell venture]

no

[lyric horizon]

SLIVOVICA

HELL YEA

[rocky geode]

[prisma venture]

haahahah my boy know

[rocky geode]

well thats it, today we make toast in the bath

[prisma venture]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/376417126795444224/1334631799166337136/catHorror_giff.gif

[rocky geode]

delicious bath toast

[prisma venture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/798609903647457301/1063122618431057951/1034723981825159228-1-1.gif

@lyric horizon u know what im gonna do

right before i go to school tomorow

[rocky geode]

jerk off

[prisma venture]

ill buy beer with my boys

drink it

then buy maybe a nother one

and then go to school

[rocky geode]

then jerk off

[prisma venture]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-sometimes-my-genius-almost-frightening-driving-car-ride-gif-16463163

[prisma venture]

i dont know what you do with your friends but you do you

[rocky geode]

look if youre not jerqing it with the boys on pride month ur homophobic

[prisma venture]

YEES

I AM

we went over this already

[prisma venture]

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

[upper gulch]

yup

khayo men waynak

[rocky geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyr9sXc5pXE

[upper gulch]

ba3ref bte2ra nusoosi

[upper gulch]

basically same thing

[arctic pawn]

Me when i see a beautiful place like this

[upper gulch]

same

most of bosnia is pretty in landscape

[arctic pawn]

is that a cemitery down there

[upper gulch]

yes

[arctic pawn]

nice

[rocky geode]

bro lives in a cemetery

[upper gulch]

idk significance of why it is there though

[rocky geode]

goth vibes

[arctic pawn]

indeed

[upper gulch]

yup i do

[rocky geode]

thats sick

[upper gulch]

jk

that photo isnt even my city

that is sarajevo i live in doboj

[arctic pawn]

man imagine if goths that drinks wine while hanging out in the cemetery still existed

it was a thing back then

[rocky geode]

if she does give her my number

[upper gulch]

i mean bosnia did have goths in it

maybe not kind youre meaning

but we had goths

[rocky geode]

half the goth bitches ive fucked are only goth for the first two dates then they get lazy

[arctic pawn]

[rocky geode]

like bitch now youre just a woman

lame

[upper gulch]

right you want a man

[rocky geode]

ill take a goth twink yeah

im not picky what can i say

[arctic pawn]

the girl gets comfortable around you without the need to dress up all the time with 100 kilos of makeup

and mf acts like this

smh

[upper gulch]

all homosexuals act like that

it is normal

[rocky geode]

god damn thats an expensive view

and yes exactly bro

I do act like that

put the makeup on

[upper gulch]

it is expensive even for tourists because they upcharge all the good places in that city

[arctic pawn]

awful

[upper gulch]

because its super popular for tourism

[rocky geode]

yeah well i can see fuckin why

[upper gulch]

it probably is our most famous city for tourism

beside obviously sarjevo

sarajevo

[shell venture]

i remember coming home with friends
sky was just like this but more purple

[upper gulch]

is capital city so

[shell venture]

flashing lights were playing

[upper gulch]

we have few places like it around bosnia

this is a old sufi like

retreat

[rocky geode]

holy fuck my man

[arctic pawn]

cool

[primal rapids]

https://youtube.com/shorts/QmO_80IHg2w?si=c4IfbqNmmNRUVM04

[shell venture]

damn

[upper gulch]

nice

[arctic pawn]

i bet you can go there if you want to

[upper gulch]

you can

[rocky geode]

damn i realy live in a slum compared to that

[upper gulch]

it isnt used for sufi rituals anymore

but it use to be

[arctic pawn]

i mean you

you live near it

i live in brazil lol

[upper gulch]

oh yea i could

is like few hours drive away

[arctic pawn]

see

[upper gulch]

the inside is cooler than outside imo

[arctic pawn]

thats amazing

[upper gulch]

let me find it

[rocky geode]

dont pretend brazil doesnt have beautiful places tho

[arctic pawn]

lmfao

yeah we have beautiful favelas

beautiful assassination rate per year (59k)

[rocky geode]

trust me there are far uglier places with far uglier women with far smaller asses

[primal rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/944877816250531872/1381148038487343145/FB_IMG_1749361733963.jpg?ex=684675d8&is=68452458&hm=29ff5d96705283c7a6955378fbd233cc6c08d1778391cfe095e4f31a0e1acc47&

[upper gulch]

the inside

[arctic pawn]

brazilian girls are fine

also the transexuals puts alot of effort too

[upper gulch]

they have body of a sufi saint in the thing but i cant find photo of it

[rocky geode]

he's just flexing on us now

and yeah they are but i can mever get over the stabbing me part (for both)

[primal rapids]

I use to live in California, don’t talk to me about the girls

[arctic pawn]

stabbing?

you'll definetly get shot

[rocky geode]

oh i mean brazilian women in america

theyre toned down apparently

[upper gulch]

there, 2 tajik sufis who are burried at it for some reason

[arctic pawn]

hmmm

[shell venture]

interesting ceiling

[arctic pawn]

what does toned down means

[rocky geode]

they usually just hit with a pan

[arctic pawn]

nice

[rocky geode]

not shoot

[upper gulch]

whole building is interesting

[arctic pawn]

so...

[upper gulch]

its got mix architecture and shit

[shell venture]

i mean in a different way

[arctic pawn]

is this a graveyeard?

yard*

[rocky geode]

its a rizzyard

[upper gulch]

no

[arctic pawn]

[upper gulch]

its just like a tomb thing

sufis do it to respectable mystics

[arctic pawn]

with dead people

[upper gulch]

yes because they usually use them as like

a intercessor in a way

[arctic pawn]

spooky

[upper gulch]

but not in the typical meaning of it

like they still believe only god is doing all of the actions and stuff but that the intercessor is just a aid

ig is simple way to explain that

[arctic pawn]

it really changes the tone of the place

[shell venture]

is it like 3abd salih stuff

[upper gulch]

idk they have them in bunch of old sufi places

[rocky geode]

not really

a little dead body really livens up the place

[upper gulch]

idk what thats meaning

oh like

oh

[arctic pawn]

[upper gulch]

i was reading that as a name and not as the noun for some reason

[shell venture]

basically beloved people who die
they start putting money and basically worshipping the grave

[upper gulch]

yea kind of

[arctic pawn]

i can understand that

[rocky geode]

kindof a baller way to be buried

[arctic pawn]

indeed

[upper gulch]

its more so though for spiritual reason than putting money and stuff

its just a intercessory aid

[arctic pawn]

the place is beautiful

[upper gulch]

it is

[shell venture]

we have that but it's more common in the countryside
we don't do that shit here

[upper gulch]

where even are you

[shell venture]

algeria

[upper gulch]

you use 3rabizi

ah that is why

okay

i knew it was either maghreb or sham

only places that really use 3rabizi

[shell venture]

what's 3rabizi

[upper gulch]

because your countryside is more mystic

in tradition

[shell venture]

more "extreme"

[upper gulch]

3rabi with latin characters

[shell venture]

ah

[upper gulch]

in some stuff probably

less extreme in others

[shell venture]

usually not worth living there tbh

[arctic pawn]

what dan said is right we do have beautiful places here too, but on the architecture part, i think its very erectile disfunction-like

[upper gulch]

there use to be more all over bosnia during ottoman times

[shell venture]

most people i've met from there don't like it

[upper gulch]

but most of the places that were sufi mystic monasteries and shit got either destroyed during war or just fell out of use

[shell venture]

it's gossip city and if you're an outsider you are basically fucked

[upper gulch]

that one fell out of use but was turn into a museum

the rest just got torn down

[arctic pawn]

this is bonito, in my state

4 hours with car

[upper gulch]

that is pretty

[arctic pawn]

i could reach this place

[upper gulch]

pretty much all countryside

for every place

it kind of sucks

[rocky geode]

you have literally the whole amazon rain forest

[upper gulch]

bosnia has pyramids we solo the amazon

[rocky geode]

how is that 🥀

[upper gulch]

💪 🇧🇦

[arctic pawn]

i have better

than amazonia

i have pantanal

near me

[shell venture]

the cool people i've met here are mostly from the saharn states

[arctic pawn]

its one of the most varied places in the world

when it comes to species of animals

[rocky geode]

they aret pyramids that was disproven literally 2 decades ago

theyre just naturally formed rock

[upper gulch]

tbh i dont really like any of people from maghreb

[rocky geode]

cope

[upper gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-angry-rabid-gif-20257620

[rocky geode]

seethe

[shell venture]

depends

[upper gulch]

yea i will actually agree with you because the pyramid conspiracy shit actually started to interfere with the natural landscape

the guy claiming it ended up terraforming some of the mountain to make it look more like pyramid

and messed with the natural shape

[rocky geode]

it was all dreamed up for tourism

[arctic pawn]

flora too

it has shit tons of species of plants

and the land varies alot

from swamp to forest

[upper gulch]

it was fine when he was just claiming it was pyramid but then he start making changes to actual mountain and fucking with historical sites (the place where mountain as is close to one of the most historic areas for the bosnian kingdom)

[rocky geode]

its not fine any geologist halfway through school could see he was a lying mf

or just crazy

[arctic pawn]

not cool

[upper gulch]

is brazil mostly hills and forests

[rocky geode]

i care because i have almost a full history degree

and so many joe rogan historians are making misinfo so fucking common

[upper gulch]

i only care because its history of one of the really unknown parts of my country history

[rocky geode]

ancient aliens bs

[upper gulch]

very few people outside of bosnia know about the bosnian kingdom

[rocky geode]

ancient aliens is mostly racism where theyre like "but brown people couldnt do anything good! thats impossible!!!"

[upper gulch]

even fewer know about bosnian church

[arctic pawn]

search about pantanal later

that shit is crazy

there's a train that passes through pantanal

its beautiful

ill go to this tour

one time or another

[upper gulch]

it look weird

in a good way

[arctic pawn]

it is weird

the animals

the plants

the swamps

and spooky too

[rocky geode]

plus train

autism paradise

[arctic pawn]

indeed

exactly

[shell venture]

annihilation 2018

[arctic pawn]

imagine seeing this mf

[rocky geode]

lord Almighty

[arctic pawn]

he kills aligators

[upper gulch]

cutie pie

[shell venture]

called it

[arctic pawn]

he is very big

[rocky geode]

if annihilation was real id have a saddle on the skeleton scp bear

[arctic pawn]

bro has human ear

and my fat uncle's eyes

he is not cute

[upper gulch]

he looks chill

[arctic pawn]

lmao

tuiuiu

[upper gulch]

that looks chiller

[arctic pawn]

indeed

[upper gulch]

i like his shape

[arctic pawn]

arara azul grande

risk of extinction

but we still have it here

[upper gulch]

they are cute

[arctic pawn]

big boys

literally

[upper gulch]

the only native animals we have are a horse and few dog breeds

or special animals at least

[digital quartz]

Graham Hancock

[arctic pawn]

nice, idk if we used to have native species of horses here

[upper gulch]

bosnian mountain horse

[upper gulch]

we had to have special horses because our entire fucking country is hills and mountains

[arctic pawn]

the big blue arara species are even cuter cuz they are monogamic

they literally get married

[shell venture]

huge neck tiny legs

[arctic pawn]

both take care of the nest

[shell venture]

average metal lead singer

[upper gulch]

humans could learn from them

[arctic pawn]

and when one of the partners die

they get really sad

and dont want to be with nobody else

thats why its a species in extinction

[upper gulch]

i wonder why

[arctic pawn]

its hard for the males to procreate with another female

[upper gulch]

is it a mental thing

[arctic pawn]

i dont know man

looks like a natural instinct

[upper gulch]

well i have to know now

[rocky geode]

emo bird

[arctic pawn]

"Yes, the Hyacinth Macaw (Anodorhynchus hyacinthinus) is a monogamous species, meaning that couples form long-term pairs and remain together for life. This social behavior is an important factor in their reproduction and in the care of their young.

Elaboration:

Monogamy:

Most Hyacinth Macaw couples remain faithful throughout life.

Social Importance:
Monogamy contributes to mutual cooperation between the couple in raising the young and maintaining the nest.

Care for the young:
Both parents actively participate in the care of the young, including exchanging food and mutual care, strengthening the bond between the couple.

Consequences for Conservation:
Monogamy makes the loss of a partner a significant event, as the search for a new partner can be demoralized, affecting the reproduction of the species, which already faces threats such as habitat loss and illegal hunting.
Not an Absolute Rule:
Although most hyacinth macaw couples are monogamous, monogamy is not a rule without approaches.
Fidelity:
Fidelity between hyacinth macaw couples is very evident, with the couple spending a lot of time together in activities such as hunting, resting and caring for the chicks.
Mating Rites:
Mating rites include self-grooming and mating, and both males and females participate in building the nest and feeding the chicks.
Reproduction:
Hycinth macaws breed in trees or rocky walls, and the couple normally lays between 1 and 3 eggs, with only one chick usually surviving.
Pair Formation:
Hycinth macaw couples form pairs and remain together for life, with the choice of partner being made by the birds.
Threatened Species:
The hyacinth macaw is an endangered species, and monogamy, although an important social behavior, is not enough to guarantee the survival of the species in the face of existing threats."

[rocky geode]

why dont u ask them

[upper gulch]

i should

[digital quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/the-frog-mage-i-aint-readin-all-that-tldr-too-long-didnt-read-wizard-gif-14882584291268524028

[arctic pawn]

I havewnt

lol

[upper gulch]

so it is probably mental/consciousness thing

[arctic pawn]

what you mean mental/consciousness

[upper gulch]

done by the birds by conscious processes

[arctic pawn]

thats crazy

[upper gulch]

instead of being genetically disposed to doing it

[arctic pawn]

so bro has a level of awareness

[upper gulch]

ton of animals do

[arctic pawn]

but when it comes to reproduction?

[upper gulch]

most animals have consciousness

[arctic pawn]

and partnership?

that is cute af

[upper gulch]

yes most animals have subjective experiences and emotions

well maybe not most

[arctic pawn]

not really

[upper gulch]

most animals have basic consciousness

[arctic pawn]

i cant tell you another monogamic animal

[rocky geode]

very few can recognize themselves in a mirror

[arctic pawn]

i think birds usually are more monogamic

[upper gulch]

there are a lot with more complex consciousness though

[arctic pawn]

maybe penguins?

[upper gulch]

like lot of animals have subjective experiences about life and self awareness, abstract thinking, shit like that

[digital quartz]

that is higher consciousness, base consciousness is stuff like pain etc.

[upper gulch]

yea that is secondary

[arctic pawn]

empathy too

i bet

[rocky geode]

so not women

[arctic pawn]

[upper gulch]

some probably do

[rocky geode]

[digital quartz]

that is probably the least gigachad thing you could say

[stoic girder]

Rats have empathy.

[digital quartz]

you just sound hurt

[rocky geode]

empathy is absolutely a human invention

[arctic pawn]

i saqw this experiment

[rocky geode]

no I just love cheap shots

[arctic pawn]

i mean i saw the research text n shit

idk if they recorded that shit

lol

[shell venture]

hurt by your existance

kys

[rocky geode]

and yall are anthropomorphizing actions that don't stem from the complex moral structure human concepts like empathy stems from

youre conflating correlation with causation

[arctic pawn]

hard to assume that

[upper gulch]

empathy could be from a non moral basis if you setup a natural scenario

[rocky geode]

its easier to assume that than to assume to know whats going through a rats mind, yes?

[upper gulch]

its evolutionary beneficial for things to feel empathic toward each other because it benefits shared thinking and actions

[arctic pawn]

indeed

i think we can measure empathy through a sequence of actions

[upper gulch]

i think sympathy would be harder to happen naturally than empathy

[rocky geode]

in that case my toaster is very empathetic

[arctic pawn]

real

[upper gulch]

it is

[rocky geode]

it knows i need toast becasue i plugged it in and started my bath water

[upper gulch]

when you sexually assault it with toast every day

[stoic girder]

Alot of mammals have mirror neurons.

[rocky geode]

its not toast until after the assualt but ok

[upper gulch]

you literally slide it in the toaster and wait for it to pop out

[arctic pawn]

im asking about empathy

[upper gulch]

its assault the whole way

[arctic pawn]

because why a bird would be monogamic

and care about the partner

[rocky geode]

i slide bread in the toaster

it spits out toast once it busts

[upper gulch]

mammals in general also just have higher ability for cognition

[arctic pawn]

instead of spreading his seed all around the other birds

[digital quartz]

maybe its easier to raise a chick together as a pair and revolving partners would be detrimental

[arctic pawn]

if it doesnt have empathy

[digital quartz]

but seeing as they have trouble reproducing it might be a evolutionary dead end

[stoic girder]

Crazy how humans haven't figured that out.

[arctic pawn]

why would the male care

[rocky geode]

because the real evolutionary challenge for those birds isnt making the eggs its getting them to hatch and fly

so the energy would be wasted shotgunning 50 doomed nests

[digital quartz]

to ensure the offsprings safety

[arctic pawn]

does he have empathy towards his son?

[upper gulch]

the only non mammal i can think of that has known self recognition is birds and theyre avian, the rest that i can think of like apes and cetaceans like dolphins and shit are mammals

[arctic pawn]

why other animals dont have this behaviour

[stoic girder]

Reptiles don't tend to care.

[digital quartz]

they do it just realizes differently

[upper gulch]

theres a limit to cognition between animals

[arctic pawn]

but does this cognition has something to do with empathy towards the own baby

the mother i understand

when it has caring

[rocky geode]

same reason humans carry babies for 9 months and we're STILL useless when we pop out

because the bennefit of keeping us alive used to mean we would have a strong chance to reproduce

the problem is evolution couldn't predict anime so now all that effort was wasted while you fuck your body pillow

[upper gulch]

it probably depends

[arctic pawn]

but for the male to care

its fascinating

[digital quartz]

I think your viewpoint is too human

[upper gulch]

like if you take humans for example humans can be empathic for moral reasons or for non moral reasons

someone could be empathic in a situation to get something they want

or they could be for morality

its probably similar for animals who are capable of some form of empathy

[rocky geode]

for another example

my cat catches a mouse

he plays with it while it suffers

he must do this because hes sadistic

i must have an evil cat

[upper gulch]

it changes on the situation

it probably isnt a binary 0 or 1 either

[upper gulch]

your cat is evil

[rocky geode]

like gender (joke)

[arctic pawn]

nope, its instinctive of him

[manic cave]

🦜

[digital quartz]

some animals have monogamous mating and raise the newborn together to ensure its safety other animals play the numbers and try to procreate as many times as possible to ensure their offsprings safety through sheer numbers

[rocky geode]

yes thats my point thank you

[arctic pawn]

so it can also be instinctive for a male to take care of his baby bird

instead of jsut bailing out

and seeding other females

[upper gulch]

maybe just the lighter birds

[manic cave]

Can depend on the species of bird.

[arctic pawn]

the big blue macaw is extremely big

[digital quartz]

its an evolutionary path the species has taken

[arctic pawn]

and males takes care of the babies

[digital quartz]

not some kind of individual sentimentality on the birds part

[upper gulch]

i mean we dont know that

they could have higher capacity for emotions than we know or they could not

[rocky geode]

but we do you're just writing bird fanfiction

[arctic pawn]

we are asking questions here

[rocky geode]

because your dad never came home after going for milk

[arctic pawn]

you guys are mad because were considering that animals have some sort of empathy

[upper gulch]

we really dont know that much about non human consciousness because its kind of hard to ask a bird how it feels about its kids

[arctic pawn]

lets teach them to speak

[stoic girder]

They are mad because animals might be a better person than they are.

[arctic pawn]

and ask questions

[manic cave]

I mean none of us here at veterinarians or anything. (That I know of).

So.

[digital quartz]

who is mad?

[upper gulch]

but i dont think it would be completely unusual for animals that show some higher form of consciousness (like certain avians) to also be able to experience subjective emotions

[manic cave]

Are*

[rocky geode]

we dont even know if humans are conscious (yes we do both of these statements are false)

modern neurology has made big strides folks

educate yourselves

[upper gulch]

lets not dickride philosophy in a talk about real observational science

[shell venture]

me

[rocky geode]

thats what i literally just pointed to

[upper gulch]

dualism is right btw

[rocky geode]

gaeism is right (i minored in philosophy smile)

[arctic pawn]

yeah also its interesting that a part of the big blue macaws are not monogamic

so some have this behaviour and some doesnt

[digital quartz]

could it be availability related?

[arctic pawn]

idk

[upper gulch]

i mean that could be showing it is conscious decision but also like 99% of binaries we later find out are spectrums

so

[digital quartz]

maybe in some regions the species is so rare that its not an option to find a partner in a new mating season

[arctic pawn]

indeed

makes sense

[upper gulch]

i think though they would consider that in the study

and account for it

[digital quartz]

it should be mentioned then in the discussion part of the paper

[upper gulch]

really we would need to read abstract of whatever study its pulling from for a answer about the study

but id assume if theyre studying difference in monogamy between the birds they would have it somewhat control environment and account for other shit

but also part of consciousness is understanding cause and effect

so if the birds understand that if they are monogamous it benefits them and they do it, that isnt natural evolutionary reason for it happening its just a conscious choice that benefits them from their observation of cause and effect

[digital quartz]

I feel like there is a giant leap between experiencing cause and effect and a feeling of empathetic love that keeps you from genetic proliferation

[upper gulch]

yea there is

one is primary consciousness the other is secondary

but it still is consciousness

avians also usually have fairly good memory so i dont think it would be crazy for them to understand cause and effect of monogamy

[rocky geode]

behavior in primates can rapidly adapt to suit situations like this but with birds that is a smalll lil brain i dont think they could just change instinct all the sudden

again we are looking at bird actions through human lenses

and going "ah yes this is what theyre thinking rn"

[upper gulch]

yea the good path to view it is middle ground

[rocky geode]

begone centrist

[upper gulch]

accepting it could be consciousness while also not denying it can be natural

[rocky geode]

pick a side u coward

[upper gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-mad-cat-angry-cat-cat-cat-meme-gif-6241738800057917520

[rocky geode]

see from my observations

i see that the cat has decided tht u gae

[upper gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-mad-cat-angry-cat-cat-cat-meme-gif-6241738800057917520

[rocky geode]

damn okay i take it back

pls dont post him again hes too scary

[shell venture]

the ameritard way

[rocky geode]

yes based and radicalize pilled

anyone who doesnt have exactly my opinions is my literal enemy

i am not being manipulated especially not by my own party

of which i can only pick 1 of 2

[arctic pawn]

[rocky geode]

i will use my seriously defunded public highschool education to pick one of those parties

then cling to it against all reason or facts

the american way 🦅

[arctic pawn]

🦅

are male eagles empathic towards their babies?

[rocky geode]

depends if thier babies turn out to be librals

[arctic pawn]

lmao im done

awful

[shell venture]

i agree

[pseudo robin]

Imagine making politics part of your identity

[rocky geode]

yeah imagine

social media has cannibalized america

its a bummer

[shell venture]

eat facebook

revenge

[rocky geode]

i havent had a facebook since 2012

[arctic pawn]

im having facebook for breakfast, lunch and dinner

[rocky geode]

i use zero infinite scroll apps

watching the entire country lose all ability to be rational has been

deflating

[arctic pawn]

since idk 16 years old

[rocky geode]

in a word

[naive bison]

@shell venture why are you Turkish

[shell venture]

german

[rocky geode]

u cant just ask someone why hes turkish bro

[naive bison]

https://tenor.com/view/cut-it-out-smh-stop-it-jonah-hill-no-way-gif-26885587

[shell venture]

are you racist to germans

[coarse bear]

p!implode 1008147783020187718

[naive bison]

Ye u can

[rocky geode]

wtf

police

[naive bison]

He eated neutron star

:(

[rocky geode]

stop this man

[coarse bear]

Why haven't you got that turkish hair transplant yet lil bro

[rocky geode]

i have i just got it all transplanted to my taint

now off to brazil to get a bbl taint

[arctic pawn]

people be like this, instead of having critical thinking and actually caring about actual good plans for administrating the country, they act like football fans

defending your own side even if it means defending the most awful things imaginable

even getting to the point of arguing about the "less worse"

"the lesser evil"

[upper gulch]

i went and found paper talking about exact subject of sociality and empathy existing in psittacidae (the family that hyacinth macaws are in) and it said:

"Even if our results are not sufficient to prove the existence of empathy-mediated responses in cockatiels, these differential responses to audio stimuli are first evidences of preferential sensitivities towards others.
Empathy could have evolved in animals in order to form and maintain bonds within social groups and to help others while responding to their needs, one of the most popular hypotheses explaining the origin of empathy is parental care."

"In birds, most species form monogamous pair bonds and biparental care is common. Some birds even form long-term pair-bonds like jackdaws (Kubitza et al., 2015) or pair-bonds for life like barnacle geese (Black, 2001). It has even been observed that the efficient cooperation of parents at the nest is required for the survival of the offspring, unaided females having more difficulties or even failing to take care
of broods by themselves (Wolf et al., 1988; Dunn & Hannon, 1989). It could then be argued that long-term monogamy and biparental care in birds could be especially convenient to study the role and influence of empathy. More studies are thus required to investigate these questions."

[arctic pawn]

like i have an obligation to chose whoever is less awful because if i dont do this i'd be helping the worse evil win

[arctic pawn]

im reading allat

hold on

[upper gulch]

its about exact topic you were asking

[arctic pawn]

@rocky geode

[upper gulch]

tldr says that the birds show signs of prefering things for others but it doesnt prove empathy exist for them and that it could be natural for parental care and more studies need to exist for them to say anything about specifically empathy

the whole paper is interesting

[arctic pawn]

indeed

[upper gulch]

https://edoc.ub.uni-muenchen.de/22065/1/Lievin-Bazin_Agatha.pdf

if you want to read it

it is in english you just have to scroll down

[hazy finch]

@shell venture im so sorry for your gain loss

[arctic pawn]

"Empathy could have evolved in animals " dan would not agree with that

he thinks animals cant have this

only hoomans

[upper gulch]

humans are animals

🤓

[arctic pawn]

[pseudo robin]

There are Iranian spys in my walls rn

[hazy finch]

they are lacing your milos with dumb shit idiot brain idiot powder and will make you stab people in melbourne

[pseudo robin]

not again

[rocky geode]

the harpy eagle fucks

[arctic pawn]

looks delicious

[rocky geode]

i cant even cope

[rocky geode]

however calling a bald eagle a glorified seagull is CRAZY

they are fucking brutal, and they dont only eat fish

they eat other predatory birds and even fight fuckin foxes off of their kills and shit

kids in alaska are literally warned not to leave the house alone becaue FATAL EAGLE ATTACKS are a thing

but the harpy eagle does still fuck harder

[rocky geode]

they do that cuz their beans are cold tho

[upper gulch]

nope they do it because theyre in power

pallas cats own you

pallas cats control the banks

[rocky geode]

i am okay with that

[rocky geode]

you know what? slay

[upper gulch]

fr

manuls own the media

[rocky geode]

i got outbid on that gun

and my bid after that still didnt beat it

[naive bison]

chill asf

[rocky geode]

so whoever is wasting money on that thing (probably for the vintage japanese scope i bet that thing is worth 400)

I wish you a very very kindly fuck you

[upper gulch]

haters say its fake

[naive bison]

hah

[naive bison]

no way

thats the most shit ive ever seen

[upper gulch]

it is

its fact checked

[rocky geode]

haters on life support

[upper gulch]

yup

[arctic pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-18890916

[naive bison]

HATERS IN CRITICAL CONDITION
REQUIRE COPIUM

[rocky geode]

world? flat
haters? btfo

ah man, the Adderall is kickin in

[rocky geode]

its range time, lets see how quickly 500 9mil and 250 .22 can evaporate

ill get at LEAST an hour of fun

[arctic pawn]

me fr

[naive bison]

based

[rocky geode]

this is twitter

[upper gulch]

guess we will see you on the news

[arctic pawn]

i love how fat this cat is

[rocky geode]

what part of RANGE- oh youre a euro

sigh

you see, when you're free, you can go to a private business, pay them money you earn (no not handed to you from the government)

and at that business you can tape paper targets to cardboard

and waste money in the form of ammunition, while you tell yourself its a usefull and respectable skill youre building, and not just a loud hobby

[rocky geode]

just dont shoot yourself in the leg, because you dont have health insurance, so going to the hospital would put you in debt for the next 100 years

[river zealot]

@quaint ore the forest brothers

[quaint ore]

three little chuds living in commies heads rent free since 1918

[rocky geode]

"the voices told me to do it"

meanwhile: the voices

[naive bison]

just saw a red squirrel with a grey one
the forest is over, bros...

[rocky geode]

joever has cancer in his bones, hes joever himself

[arctic pawn]

joevered all over the place

poor joe

[rocky geode]

his cells tripped on the stairs of joeforce one

[arctic pawn]

[rocky geode]

bro when he called zelensky putin in that debate

i actually put my hand on my forehead

that was the strongest second hand cringe since the furry vine complications

[arctic pawn]

furry vine complications

thats crazy

[rocky geode]

they were such potent cringe

i would rather be shocked with a car battery

than watch those for the first time again

[arctic pawn]

at least you werent working at rainfurrest

imagine being a normie and having to work at a furry event like this

[stoic girder]

Furries in diapers (sometimes they are full)

[arctic pawn]

yup

there is supposedly a niche of furries that likes to use diapers

and fill them

preferentially

imagine the smell

of rainfurrest

mfs spread used diapers everywhere

[solar breach]

Reminder that there were lots of normal guests at the hotel too

[arctic pawn]

yikes

[primal rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/784487027063914499/1381286275323138108/Gs2HameWQAAOAq-.png?ex=6846f697&is=6845a517&hm=a727b9f47c069ede5f8f7ab1bd75154ab67179e7afeb753554202a64282d6bdf&

[rocky geode]

i actually got rly close to a roomates gf who made furrsuits

she convinced me to come to this furry party convention thing one new years, and it was close to the bar crawls

so i go to the hotel and walk in, and remeber just like, even being drunk, struggling to not show the fucking disdain on my face

she was fine as hell tho, if i had been confident back then i coulda hit

like she tried to, and i was like UUuuUUuHhh aReNt u HiS girlFriend??

she was like yeah but i dont see him here do you? (he was at work)

i sperged out and was like good joke hahahahahhah

i shoulda hit, man

he turned out to be a fuckin sociopath anyways, prolly why she was trying to cheat

[arctic pawn]

[rocky geode]

learn from my mistakes boys,

when the freaky furry girl hits on you, go for it

[primal rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[upper gulch]

yap yap yap

jarane

[rocky geode]

dont end up regretting like me

[upper gulch]

zivjela sam u americi

al hajd prastam ti sto neznas

[rocky geode]

i told u the Adderall was hitting

[upper gulch]

nije vam lako amerikanci jel

[rocky geode]

yap go full auto

[arctic pawn]

i did an nsfw commission for a furry girl once

that was really into waluigi...

[primal rapids]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/927684638913204244/1381284631160029266/AP1GczNkYCzt0eUXA4G3eD0ZNG_FpB3NjSuapctZrFKJ9fee0vHvixbrQWwjw454-h958-s-no-gm.png?ex=6846f50f&is=6845a38f&hm=afa9a6f6c2444ae5874d6fcb0cbd116990fe17497a54a3ddff19077ebf02e06e&

[solar breach]

Oh you do commissions? I got an idea for a Wario and waluigi comic involving 🫃

[arctic pawn]

🫃

[rocky geode]

dude i have SO many stories from 20 something me

[stoic girder]

Do you know how to draw realistic toilets?

Asking for a friend.

[arctic pawn]

never tried but i think i can

[naive bison]

???????

[upper gulch]

american neighborhoods

[naive bison]

SHAMONA

HEE-HEE

[upper gulch]

mj import

[arctic pawn]

real

[solar breach]

Abysmal dogshit

[pale ingot]

hello xalretard

[arctic pawn]

welcome back mr jackson

[upper gulch]

american suburbs are

[arctic pawn]

what does sneaky link means

[upper gulch]

idk

i dont speak english

why are you assuming i know what i am posting

gosh

[arctic pawn]

are you linking your shit on someone else's behind stealth like?

[arctic pawn]

sorry

[pale ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/lobster-writing-lobster-writes-speech-bubble-stan-twitter-gif-26079717

[arctic pawn]

i should have know

i dont know what im posting 50% of the time too

[upper gulch]

this is like the entire server

[arctic pawn]

thank god i still have will power to clean my god damn room and bath 2 times a day

[upper gulch]

whats a bath

[arctic pawn]

meme stealer

good

steal more

[arctic pawn]

lmfao

[rocky geode]

when you need to flex the gortex drip on everyone

[upper gulch]

fr

[upper gulch]

bro my headphones disconneced from my laptop as soon as i played that

holy shit

[arctic pawn]

[rocky geode]

i just had to put most of my winter shit down for the season

goodbye all black techwear wardrobe, hello all linen for the summer

[pale ingot]

urggg i want to play 7d2d but the 2.0. update is around the corner so i have to wait

[upper gulch]

wear medieval robes

[arctic pawn]

man thats a tough decision

maybe push him to the wolves

[glad carbon]

throw me to the wolves

[upper gulch]

hes using linux too

[pale ingot]

i would rather die than sit with a linux user

[arctic pawn]

youll become pregnant

[glad carbon]

better than listening to linux users

[arctic pawn]

fro real

id just push him to the wolves

[arctic pawn]

and have space for myself

[arctic pawn]

[rocky geode]

bro i have a sick hoodie that has a legit cowl

and its got that privacy reflect shit so if people flashed a camera it ruins the pic LMAO

but its too heavy and it's black id cook in it now

[glad carbon]

i got a couple of those stickers

[upper gulch]

hopefully the family ones

[upper gulch]

where are you at

[naive bison]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-the-cap-cap-laugh-video-reaction-youtuber-gif-18293251

[glad carbon]

they came with the purchase

[rocky geode]

hell hes my brother

[rocky geode]

im everywere, im god

[pale ingot]

this guy bought the ass spreader 5000, damn

[pseudo robin]

It’s winter here

[glad carbon]

that's the display model

[rocky geode]

its summer here

[upper gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/yakub-glaze-lebron-james-lebron-gif-7450672780557101522

[rocky geode]

or almost summer

[pale ingot]

which one did you get

[rocky geode]

close enough that the pool is open

[arctic pawn]

i dont want to imagine how does ass spreader 5000 works

[glad carbon]

idk ask ur mother

[rocky geode]

idk either but buy me dinner we can find out

speaking of ass spreader 5000 where flop

[naive bison]

theres no mf way

that you would be allowed to be an explosives expert

and a mute

[arctic pawn]

would you let your ass become a pet worm for dinner?

thas crazy

[naive bison]

you can't even yell "fire in the hole"

[coarse bear]

Easy Pete if he wasn't a blabbermouth

[naive bison]

hes not

he just goes BASTARD

[coarse bear]

That's enough

[rocky geode]

idk what that means but if ur cute probably yeah

[coarse bear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81rg3ADLrq0

[arctic pawn]

yeah dont search for pet worm and ass in the same sentence

[pale ingot]

they would never suspect the mute boy to have a bomb strapped to his chest

[arctic pawn]

ever

[rocky geode]

too late man

way too late

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPm3Oi8brY4

[pale ingot]

who up playing wit they worm

[naive bison]

i was gonna post this video but got up to do something

B A S T A R D

[rocky geode]

BAS TERD

[coarse bear]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1375990521536839700/1376340053457895526/coolgers3.gif

[arctic pawn]

hi wet

[coarse bear]

Hello

[upper gulch]

hi

[eager igloo]

Clair Obscur update

[frail scaffold]

hiiii

[eager igloo]

This game is goated

Play it

[lusty sonnet]

Facts

[lusty sonnet]

Where you at in the game?

[arctic pawn]

Hi lusterless

[pale ingot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/929807268994744340/982257395390619708/image0-4-1.gif

[arctic pawn]

Hi harmless

[eager igloo]

Stone Wave Cliffs

[lusty sonnet]

Esquie MVP

Enjoy

[eager igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/flying-esquie-expedition33-clair-obscur-gif-9518445348805511967

[pale ingot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/423525684799995904/1067428439386230905/stoicist_dog.gif

[upper gulch]

thats me

[lusty sonnet]

Best goober in the game

[pale ingot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/821512553615851571/1052564044093075526/MugLife_11072022141408.gif

[stone blade]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6nkLLyGG2AVrcPQ2c1Htmo?si=8JDWDyphQFuwKaMUUyUzUQ

God forbid a man enjoying some music that sounds like dying frogs

[arctic pawn]

i was expecting chipmunk gutural

[naive bison]

[upper gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/turkey-turkiye-kaan-ozdil-man-gif-19334490

[stone blade]

Its kind of a shame actually that a song like that isn't in the playlist

chipmunks with slam metal hoodies goes hard though

[naive bison]

he cut him in line to immigrate to germany

:(

[upper gulch]

true

[eager igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/clair-obscur-clair-obscur-expedition-33-expedition-33-33-clair-gif-13372527364953386407

[stone blade]

5000 songs of pure goodness

[arctic pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-dancing-meme-dancing-gid-dancing-goofy-goofy-ahh-gif-11326518923439221128

[eager igloo]

Still can't believe that's actually in the game

[stone blade]

Some of these album coversI'm 100% sure violate discord ToS

and maybe some osha violations

and some geneva too

[arctic pawn]

lmao

[naive bison]

ivan has the nirvana - nevermind poster framed on his wall

[frail scaffold]

i posted poessession in here once and that album cover had drawing of sacrifice

[lusty sonnet]

The "This is fine/burning" meme is also in that area

[arctic pawn]

i prefer dark funeral tbh

[stone blade]

posession is the baby to the hydrogen bomb that is these album covers shine

[arctic pawn]

preferentially the black metal where i can understand the lyrics

and hear each instrument well

[naive bison]

guys how much would this room cost in new york?

[eager igloo]

Yea

[naive bison]

basically you live in a hallway

13 square meters

[eager igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-clair-obscur-expedition-33-gestral-meme-gif-7404804143102906901

[frail scaffold]

go look at GoatPenis' album covers

[naive bison]

[arctic pawn]

[stone blade]

https://open.spotify.com/artist/7vWBtzzt2W1c41nztJMjVk?si=6ETPwhDcTOqD8yy9wGMygA

[frail scaffold]

real band btw

nah that one is mild

with cannibal corpse esque names

better be death metal

[stone blade]

its one of the milder ones

in the playlist

these guys look chill

yuo just know

one of them is named phil

[arctic pawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA_REmd6qgU

[stone blade]

or bob

[frail scaffold]

ive seen these guys in a walmart

[arctic pawn]

black metla can be beautiful too

[frail scaffold]

this is black metal

oh yeah for sure

i love black metal

[arctic pawn]

same fr

[frail scaffold]

my oc is literally a demon

[lusty sonnet]

After meeting Esquie i just binged the rest of the game

[frail scaffold]

[stone blade]

I wonder

considering this playlist is over 5000 songs

[pale ingot]

like 1 million

[stone blade]

how long it would take me to listen to all of it

[broken pebble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473062374400589828/1381296029986717819/RDT_20250608_173639.mp4?ex=6846ffac&is=6845ae2c&hm=fb47a3500eb5125e86e67d3f054cedb8e5e48e5381ef4f369d042f3c12777ecb&

[naive bison]

https://tenor.com/view/open-bar-one-million-beers-gif-5819923271138533602

[lost tartan]

slam band?

[stone blade]

yes

[lost tartan]

damn im good

what they called

[arctic pawn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSUwEiltXc0

[naive bison]

all these death metal band name logos are such abysmal dogshit

[arctic pawn]

[naive bison]

this is like ANTI ADVERTISEMENT

cause it's physically impossible to read them if you dont know the name of the band already

[arctic pawn]

ghost nuttin

goes hard

[pale ingot]

phantom limb masturbation is an incomprehensible title, how does that work

[stone blade]

at this point its kind of like an inside joke amongst metal bands

who can come up with the most illegible title

[arctic pawn]

the music goes hard

[frail scaffold]

its not meant to intrigue you

cope and seethe

[stone blade]

its not meant to be times new roman font lil bro

[pale ingot]

xavleg is like a clear winner in my book

unless there's a more incomprehensible one

[frail scaffold]

bro thinks extreme metal should be accessible and advertise-able

laugh at this user

[arctic pawn]

[stone blade]

real gem right here

less than 50 listeners

PEAK

[pale ingot]

readable title though

readable logo

[arctic pawn]

phantom limb masturbation is a crazy song title

not as crazy as other songs name