I think I've got it out of system finally tho
#╟❓general-offtopic
copper vapor
the duck whisperer
frank hearth
oh brother just you wait
arctic flicker
quack quack
clear vale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac9rlZmwJPo
begone demon cuck
copper vapor
this is my humble collection
upbeat verge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac9rlZmwJPo
demons be asses but damn do they have some bangers
I legit never played 2016 or eternal
I went in blind
not knowing what to expect
damn....I missed out
real aspen
anyway
upbeat verge
This shit unfathomably peak
real aspen
ANYWAY KYS
noble basin
I legit never played 2016 or eternal
Mick gordon did great
copper vapor
also obligatory
untold spear
begone demon cuck
https://youtu.be/_xaj8QSJZ0E
orthodoxy is kinda cringe tbh smh ngl
upbeat verge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/912320242301149215/1465864320779817094/to...
no , TO BULGARIA WITH YOU
copper vapor
frank hearth
and this is only the first level
just you wait for the DLC base game is peak the DLC is even more peak witha cocaine injection
clear vale
orthodoxy is kinda cringe tbh smh ngl
"tbh smh ngl" actual troglodyte
copper vapor
clear vale
upbeat verge
so
crimson vine
which factory on cyberstan?
upbeat verge
we're running 200+ fps on nightmare graphics with ray tracing
brother the game engine istelf uses hell energy or something wtf is this performance
@copper vapor @frank hearth @pliant chasm
frank hearth
we're running 200+ fps on nightmare graphics with ray tracing
<:weirdge:1021487...
imagine a game with optimized performance
slim magnet
tag1 was made boring after tag2 came out because they hypercompensated for the criticism about tag1 being unreasonably hard
slim magnet
like yeah it was unreasonably hard, but was there a need to tone it down
upbeat verge
what black magic did they use omg
proven tundra
https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-22260074
Thank god that guy's dead
lunar surge
What petrol are you usinf that dies in 2 years
real aspen
normal petrol?
tiny notch
we're running 200+ fps on nightmare graphics with ray tracing
<:weirdge:1021487...
doom?
lunar surge
You can run old diesels on fucking chip shop grease
clear vale
Thank god that guy's dead
slim magnet
what black magic did they use omg
vulkan and a custom engine
lunar surge
normal petrol?
Im ngl I have used fuel from a jerry can that has sat for 7 years and it was fine
real aspen
tiny notch
my vulkan engine gets 3500 fps when rendering a cube 
upbeat verge
I was left speechless dawg
slim magnet
and a great artstyle that lets them get away with shit like if it was photorealistic it'd be a different story
lunar surge
<:shrug:1293725284347940907>
You getting spicy water my man
What octane do you have?
carmine laurel
left mantle
more damage than karthus baby
frank hearth
jesus fucking christ
real aspen
88 i think
upbeat verge
my vulkan engine gets 3500 fps when rendering a cube <:smug:1370646749567520859>
rain didn't u leave this server?
left mantle
and he was doin the karthus special
tiny notch
rain didn't u leave this server?
upbeat verge
hi rain
left mantle
jesus fucking christ
30k true damage baby, and burn because of grandma's chili oil
slim magnet
but like ye get yourself a mod that reverts the tag1 nerf, get the master campaign tag2 mod
frank hearth
slim magnet
that's like a "proper experience"
carmine laurel
jesus fucking christ
was 3 tapping a full armor sion
copper vapor
we're running 200+ fps on nightmare graphics with ray tracing
<:weirdge:1021487...
idtech magic
praise john carmack
slim magnet
god the center weapon pov is so hideous
upbeat verge
not the hentai haven filter
upbeat verge
god the center weapon pov is so hideous
I prefer it
wastes a bit less space I think
slim magnet
at least in eternal they made the shotgun pump like in the old games if you use the center viewmodel
copper vapor
there was a funny meme with the gun pov in doom where it came out of the character's chest
slim magnet
and the ssg tilts to the right
slim magnet
wastes a bit less space I think
ackshually not the case
and ackshually it makes some weapons worse because of cycle times
it's weird
not relevant for a casual playthrough
but it's a thing
but like some weapons go all the way up to the crosshair
copper vapor
found it
real aspen
i'd argue centeral viewmodel wastes more important space
slim magnet
it takes a hell of a lot more screen real estate than the side view
copper vapor
at least in eternal they made the shotgun pump like in the old games if you use ...
they did that in 2016 too
slim magnet
guess i blanked that out
slim magnet
found it
this meme is bad because bro had one job and it was to make the pistol left handed
copper vapor
X
slim magnet
delete your discord account for reposting this trash
copper vapor
delete your discord account for reposting this trash
slim magnet
hitler might have run off to argentina and lived in a rural village, elvis might have also run off to argentina and live in a hopefully different rural village, michael jackson might have run off idk where, but there is just no way to think epstein is actually dead
thick plover
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2022262047455465728
also him playing fortnite
and the account is based in Israel
frank hearth
<:omegakekw:1016121110372306944> also him playing fortnite
Still doing what he loves most, Hunting Minors
quiet yew
real aspen
sour rivet
Guys I have a theory
real aspen
why dont you theory some bitches
sour rivet
Silence Rick and Morty pfp
real aspen
Silence Rick and Morty pfp
copper vapor
Guys I have a theory
dog ass theory, next
sour rivet
Artyom will appear in bonf James game
real aspen
artydead
upbeat verge
why dont you theory some bitches
hey thats my line
real aspen
😔
upbeat verge
LIKE WTF
copper vapor
Skyrim will never be anything BUT gooner central
never be anything BUTT gooner central
ftfy
zealous depot
thick plover
Still doing what he loves most, Hunting Minors
well
upbeat verge
I CAN"T
thick plover
theres more bots than players these days
probably why he stopped playing 2 years ago
copper vapor
https://tenor.com/view/trick2g-gif-23510728
trick2g mentioned
worn echo
marathon looks like its getting its shit together thankfully
sour rivet
Skyrim will never be anything BUT gooner central
i like playing with lore and looking at nice scenery :)
and tcl-ing over the sea of ghosts because fuck that place
copper vapor
untold spear
https://tenor.com/view/trick2g-gif-23510728
el truco...
copper vapor
el truco...
copper vapor
It would be a fools errand to not use it
with great power comes great responsibility
upbeat verge
el truco...
untold spear
AND THE THUMBNAIL IMAGE is some anime girl deepthroating a banana
do you guys think that marquis de sade would've wanted to live during our times, with so much goon material available
sour rivet
fuuuuuuck....
untold spear
me when league of legends
brittle karma
chrome ginkgo
@arctic flicker WHAAAAAAAAT HE ADDED CUSTOM DIFFICULTY
DOMINATING ENEMY SPAWNS WITHOUT 400% STATS
Styg....
Styg has changed....
He even re-enabled the dev console
pallid sapphire
wait thats it .... for now .... yes its early access but 🙁
chrome ginkgo
sour rivet
https://youtu.be/WF5wvJjEwVU?si=wrnxFW80X7wCf3ZA @rocky turtle ok they just straight up gave him the full kit
yi sang is truly the strongest sinner
brittle karma
time to catch up with shangri la frontier
sour rivet
https://fixvx.com/PAYDAYGame/status/2022347544047518139?s=20 @blazing maple @oblique belfry the australians no longer have to suffer without him now
slim magnet
why is black ops 2 regularly thought to be the best cod zombies gamr
sour rivet
cuz it has some of the best maps
slim magnet
like sure it had mob of the dead and that's the best zombies map ever
the rest ranged from dogshit to mediocre
origins was good
that's it
did bo1 have one bad map
did bo3 have one bad map
sour rivet
did bo3 have one bad map
uhhhhhhhhh
in my honest opinion bo3 is the best cod zombies
due to chronicles
slim magnet
call of the dead was kinda forgettable beyond the actor cameo gimmick
but like compare a "forgettable map" with tranzit
or die rise, which wasn't as dogshit but still boring and kinda awfully designed
or buried which plays itself
sour rivet
people called tranzit a piece of shit but i loved it
buried is.... complicated
i hate that manor
A FREE WHAT @halcyon fossil
copper vapor
pliant meteor
upbeat verge
bro
it gets better and better
with each area 
Wtf is this
why do they have skyrim ghosts in this
@copper vapor @pliant chasm
nocturne salmon
highguard devs are so disconnected with gaming industry
they dont even blame themselves for what they created
copper vapor
it's all geoff's fault
sour rivet
it's all geoff's fault <:kek1:1206172080169820190>
why did bro assassinate it
slim magnet
shut your dog ass mouth they were the devs behind TITANFALL and APEX LEGENDS your ass will never understand the pedigree, the gaming community is at fault for not appreciating it
slim magnet
/s sorry i forgot
thin bobcat
highguard devs are so disconnected with gaming industry
well, the game made a bunch of wild choices, 3v3 being one of them for the gigantic map
it feels like an extraction shooter, just without the extraction
copper vapor
why did bro assassinate it
idk... dev fucked his wife
thin bobcat
I think its fine
you don't meet anyone for the majority of the round
sour rivet
idk... dev fucked his wife
bish HES FUCKIN MS PIGGY
copper vapor
bish HES FUCKIN MS PIGGY
was
upbeat verge
WHAT IS THISSSSS
thin bobcat
only when either of you is at the trader or attacking / defending your base
slim magnet
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
bro died to the revenant for sending this screenshot
thin bobcat
I haven't played it because it really is far off from my usual interests but I watched actual gameplay
nocturne salmon
only when either of you is at the trader or attacking / defending your base
game had potency and deepness, like dota it felt like
thin bobcat
Normally it should be a good game because it encapsulates everything from other titles that is considered to make them fun
But it just is not that fun by the looks of it
thin bobcat
And with other titles, I mean that by it's literal definition, it takes a bunch of shit from other games and put it in there lmao
nocturne salmon
🫃
slim magnet
you'll get fined for speeding
copper vapor
someone in another server was complaining that we're in the "generation of remasters" but then when new games come out ppl ignore them
nocturne salmon
they needed to sell sex like overwatch/marvel rivals
upbeat verge
bro died to the revenant for sending this screenshot
no
thin bobcat
someone in another server was complaining that we're in the "generation of remas...
I mean, the Silent Hill 2 remake was pretty dope
And some of the Resident Evil ones are pretty good
copper vapor
that's above and beyond the buzzword quota
verbal gate
someone in another server was complaining that we're in the "generation of remas...
what would you rather have? unlimited bacon but no games, or unlimited games but no games?
copper vapor
@arctic flicker so far this is all I'm willing to do for trials this week
and I only got shit rewards.
might do damage shredders maybe, that's easy enough to do with a hullcracker
brittle karma
god, shangri la is so fucking peak
left mantle
@oblique belfry Guess the kayle and Jinx.
copper vapor
god, shangri la is so fucking peak
it's that one fight scene in pacific rim
slim magnet
what would you rather have? unlimited bacon but no games, or unlimited games but...
trick questiom because it depends on if "bacon" refers to new games or remakes
verbal gate
god, shangri la is so fucking peak
slf is so fun to read
arctic flicker
might do damage shredders maybe, that's easy enough to do with a hullcracker
5 seconds into a night raid stella montis and all the shredders are dead
brittle karma
cant wait for slf season 3
thick plover
they dont even blame themselves for what they created
holy schizo yap
verbal gate
cant wait for slf season 3
I just adore how he doesnt even really care about the overarching story of the game in the beginning lmao, only to fall down a rabbithole (geddit?) of circumstances
thick plover
brother was talking as if the developers even cared that the game died they just wanted to release a game
like
what am I hearing
its literally the same shit as yesterday
copper vapor
5 seconds into a night raid stella montis and all the shredders are dead
lol yeah
thick plover
kindly take your meds
slim magnet
it's still insane that 2 live service games with a shit ton of oven time with an unfathomable amount of manufactured hype released in the same week and died 3 weeks after at the same time and by the same means
thin bobcat
brother was talking as if the developers even cared that the game died they just...
you know, back then you might've been right but nowadays that is a tough pill to swallow because you kinda need that job security lmao
thick plover
you know, back then you might've been right but nowadays that is a tough pill to...
I mean
thin bobcat
and a flopped title never looks good on your cv
thick plover
you kind of don't really care when you didn't do any marketing
at all
besides the one spot at the goty awards that the host had to beg them
so they showcase their game there
thin bobcat
you kind of don't really care when you didn't do any marketing
I mean, that wasn't the decision of the devs
celest plank
It felt right
thin bobcat
Can't blame the developers for something that their publisher was supposed to take care of
thin bobcat
its on devs
Ever heard of something called a "Creative Director"?
upbeat verge
ok so
thin bobcat
The developers implement what the lead tells them to
upbeat verge
I've noticed that a decent chunk of the gameplay loop is using the chainsaw as u dont start off with a lot of ammo
sour rivet
nocturne salmon
they had insane pr to show game for many people as possible
upbeat verge
which is interesting
untold spear
this discussion is redundant
nocturne salmon
they failed
untold spear
hero shooters are dead
thick plover
Can't blame the developers for something that their publisher was supposed to ta...
its self published
upbeat verge
https://fixvx.com/moristiko/status/2022209543334482270?s=20
easily one of the best pieces in all of elder scrolls
untold spear
marvel rivals only has staying power because its marvel
slim magnet
I've noticed that a decent chunk of the gameplay loop is using the chainsaw as u...
people overstate this shit so much like pickups are giant and color coded and also full bright
thin bobcat
its self published
Then that department of the studio should've done more on their part
slim magnet
you don't need to spam the chainsaw
untold spear
overwatch released in 2016
nocturne salmon
Ever heard of something called a "Creative Director"?
yeah but I mean they blame gamers not highers up I already said that
thin bobcat
But that is still not the devs unless it's really just a dev studio
thick plover
they legit just didn't want to advertise
untold spear
move on, companies. hero shooters are dead.
thick plover
they wanted to shadow drop the game
and then have a small community which they support the game for
that was the entire plan apparently
thin bobcat
they wanted to shadow drop the game
That's the part that I don't understand
verbal gate
https://fixvx.com/moristiko/status/2022209543334482270?s=20
white people hearing CP Violation
slim magnet
low ammo count is core to the game's design so that you don't use one singular weapon for thr entire run time of the game
thin bobcat
That is where their entire fiasco falls apart
left mantle
move on, companies. hero shooters are dead.
rather than dead, the market is saturated enough
thin bobcat
Literally crashes and burns
slim magnet
but you just have to pick up the pickups
nocturne salmon
That's the part that I don't understand
enshittification so they can milk
left mantle
any new releases are an oversaturation rn
thin bobcat
They expected more players by the looks of it but they also said they wanted to shadow drop it
untold spear
rather than dead, the market is saturated enough
that's what i meant
thin bobcat
How the fuck does that work
untold spear
any new releases are an oversaturation rn
" rn " it has been for at least 5 years by now
left mantle
So it has to be really good to stick around
untold spear
since lawbreakers
that was what 2018
also, battleborn?
which is a moba apparently
upbeat verge
people overstate this shit so much like pickups are giant and color coded and al...
true but what I meant is you start off with a lower ammo pool compared to 2016
upbeat verge
dude what is happening in Sofia Bulgaria dawg
slim magnet
true but what I meant is you start off with a lower ammo pool compared to 2016
and you won't get nowhere near the ammo pools in 2016
slim magnet
max shell count is 24
upbeat verge
and you won't get nowhere near the ammo pools in 2016
I'm aware
slim magnet
with full upgrades
untold spear
it was so fun
for you and the other 5 people that played the game
upbeat verge
but from what I can tell
slim magnet
max rocket count is 13
untold spear
upbeat verge
I think theres enough ammo in most levels
verbal gate
dude what is happening in Sofia Bulgaria dawg
they done laced your weed boss, don't ever buy no weed from the gas station
thick plover
for you and the other 5 people that played the game
nah people played
upbeat verge
unless u miss every shot
slim magnet
there's more than enough ammo
thin bobcat
" rn " it has been for at least 5 years by now
Marvel Rivals survived and is doing pretty well at the moment
thick plover
the gameplay was ACTUALLY GOOD
untold spear
Marvel Rivals survived and is doing pretty well at the moment
because its marvel
thin bobcat
Seems like the concept was just garbage
thick plover
but 40 bucks in 2017 for a online only game
slim magnet
and a chainsaw fully restocks you
untold spear
who cares about rando characters
slim magnet
and you can use it every 30 seconds
thick plover
legit just asking for death
thin bobcat
because its marvel
It could've still very easily failed
untold spear
it could, yeah. but it has branding power
left mantle
Marvel Rivals survived and is doing pretty well at the moment
which is to my point that you have to make a really good hero shooter to stay in market now
upbeat verge
I am playing on ultra violence or w/e
left mantle
Rivals isn't just good because it's marvel
untold spear
a privilege highguard does not have
upbeat verge
I'm not good enough for nightmare
left mantle
It's good because it's actually good.
untold spear
Rivals isn't just good because it's marvel
not what i said
i said it had any chance to begin with because its marvel
thin bobcat
Rivals isn't just good because it's marvel
It basically did what Overwatch was supposed to do meanwhile Overwatch just did nothing but shoot themselves in the foot for a long ass time
untold spear
people will at least give it a chance because it has a character they like (me included)
thin bobcat
Literally took it's place and was free
untold spear
and then hang around a little
nocturne salmon
evolve is still playable no
thick plover
no
untold spear
maybe spend a buck or two
thick plover
matchmaking stopped long ago
now you need to download some p2p matchmaking thing thats community made to even be able to play
left mantle
Literally took it's place and was free
Free
Polished
Built on gameplay loops that were already known to be fun for hero shooters
Made the characters actually look appealing.
left mantle
Trying to switch up the hero shooter formula will 9/10 times fail.
thin bobcat
who do you think people want to play, spider man or rando from highguard
I mean, every game that isn't connected to an already established universe needs to invent characters, just highguard isn't appealing to the majority, the player numbers speak for themselves
nocturne salmon
untold spear
I mean, every game that isn't connected to an already established universe needs...
yes, that's why i say i did not have chance.
nocturne salmon
how to sell sex without selling sex
slim magnet
Trying to switch up the hero shooter formula will 9/10 times fail.
this is such a crazy thing to say despite it being true like what the fuck is that
nocturne salmon
still flopped tho
untold spear
as @left mantle said, the market has been saturated for a while now
slim magnet
then people complain the genre doesn't move
untold spear
it was a suicide mission
left mantle
it was a suicide mission
Because people don't know what they actually want.
slim magnet
but yeah changing the formula is always a flop
thick plover
how to sell sex without selling sex
you are the only one that wants to fuck that thing
sorry
thin bobcat
Steve Jobs might've been a dickhead but he was right for the most part when it came to understanding how the market functions
left mantle
But unfortunately trying it is always going to fail for some things
thick plover
the appeal of evolve was the teamplay as the hunters and the stealth and squirming around as the monster
oblique belfry
https://fixvx.com/PAYDAYGame/status/2022347544047518139?s=20 <@23244758897917952...
????
but why tho
thin bobcat
But you can reinvent things as long as you also tie it to already existing concepts
left mantle
the appeal of evolve was the teamplay as the hunters and the stealth and squirmi...
Evolve had a really fucking good balance on the power fantasy
thin bobcat
Marvel Rivals for example could now add whatever they want as an extra because they already have the hero shooter aspect pinned down perfectly
thick plover
THE GAME WAS PEAK
thin bobcat
And if it flops, they remove it and retry
nocturne salmon
nah balance was bad
thick plover
but it failed cause the dude at the top was shit
at literally every part of being a game developer
oblique belfry
wait what
left mantle
because guess what
oblique belfry
left mantle
I got fucking Senna.
thick plover
probably one of the reasons evolve died besides the CEO not caring for the game
nocturne salmon
marvel rivals devs are gamers themselves
oblique belfry
I got fucking Senna.
nocturne salmon
this is why game is thriving
nocturne salmon
they know what they are doing
thick plover
how do you realistically avoid power creep
im saying
pallid sapphire
how do you realistically avoid power creep
do not bring out something overpowered every patch
easy
left mantle
power creep happens overtime
slim magnet
do not bring out something overpowered every patch
how do you keep the game from not feeling stale
look at league
left mantle
It's not just overpowered characters
untold spear
power creep happens because you need to create novelty
pallid sapphire
how do you keep the game from not feeling stale
Do what the community want.Make votings
thick plover
legit look at the champions from 2020 onwards
the champion MUST have a mobility move
untold spear
Do what the community want.Make votings
DO NBOT DO THAT
left mantle
It's adding something new to a character, then the next has to also have something new
untold spear
ABSOLUTELY DO NOT DO THAT
thick plover
we legit haven't had a champ without a movement steroid or dashes
FOR SO FUCKING LONG
slim magnet
Do what the community want.Make votings
the community of any online game evers wants to complain about what they don't know how to play against
thick plover
now not to say deadlock doesn't have this issue
pallid sapphire
DO NBOT DO THAT
every time Gaijin did it in Warthunder the community voted for utter garbage
thick plover
BUT OH MY GOD
ITS SO MUCH LESS IN SCALE
CAUSE LIKE
ok you add a character with a dash in their kit
EVERYONE CAN DASH ALREADY
oblique belfry
what is bogdan coping about now
thick plover
because of the movement system
untold spear
crying about league
untold spear
just play deadslop bruv
oblique belfry
read challenge
i just opened chat
pallid sapphire
crying about league
Thats how you know first world problems turned into 0.5 world problems
slim magnet
you're on a tangent about league
thick plover
no fuck you
oblique belfry
someone else ?
thick plover
you can get context in reading the latest 25 messages
pallid sapphire
Deadcok
left mantle
Movement abilities in modern games
verbal gate
asking explicitly what people want will absolutely fucking suck in games
oblique belfry
Movement abilities in modern games
pallid sapphire
i want evolve back <:kekcry:919973929047715880>
Evolve still exists
untold spear
people talking about hero shooters and balance
oh but league of legends
pallid sapphire
game is better than ever
left mantle
Which exist. In. All.
oblique belfry
overwatch dominating the movement toxicity with his new jetpack cat
thick plover
game is better than ever
I dont want to have to download a mod to make the game playable
slim magnet
so just tldr
bro said something about powercreep, i said that you can't avoid powercreep in live service, someone responds "just not add crazy shit all patches", i said "then how do you keep the game from feeling stale like league" and bro went on a tangent
pallid sapphire
I dont want to have to download a mod to make the game playable
oblique belfry
bro said something about powercreep, i said that you can't avoid powercreep in l...
its like a sleeper agent phrase 
pallid sapphire
bro said something about powercreep, i said that you can't avoid powercreep in l...
IM SOMEONE
slim magnet
yeah
thick plover
idk I feel like
oblique belfry
you cant mention league while talking to bogdan
pallid sapphire
WEEEEEEEEE
thick plover
you need to build the game
around it not being able to be power crept
and thats hard
untold spear
bro said something about powercreep, i said that you can't avoid powercreep in l...
this is actually funny, because despite the fact that riot has powercrept a lot of shit (akali and aatrox for example) they are now making simpler designs like mel and ambesa.
verbal gate
you need to build the game
I had no idea you had to build a game
slim magnet
but like for real league might as well not have one singular patch in between seasons
thick plover
and well theres specific people that can do it
slim magnet
and it'd be the same
left mantle
and thats hard
No it's actually just impossible long term.
copper vapor
@arctic flicker aight done for the week.
untold spear
they know they can't keep increasing the roster with complex characters because it increases the time it takes for new players to learn the game
left mantle
Something in your game will get powercrept
slim magnet
because all the patches ever do is idk reduce a champions attack speed scaling by 0.00001% per level
oblique belfry
but like for real league might as well not have one singular patch in between se...
on a random wednesday they can just decide ornn and malphite is a jungler
oblique belfry
meanwhile tahm is still stuck on support 
thick plover
but like for real league might as well not have one singular patch in between se...
this is why people quit
the games stale
oblique belfry
the games stale
not really
thick plover
yes really
untold spear
and keeping the game fair
sometimes it's not even going to be fairness, but how some characters are bound to be fundamentally obnoxious
left mantle
the only way you fight power creep is to constantly rework old things while also adding new things.
slim magnet
the games stale
okay but let's be clear it is in fact not because everyone has dashes since 2020
oblique belfry
no ?
left mantle
Also not true lmao
untold spear
yasuo is not particular hard to deal with, but people complain a lot because he's an annoying pick
oblique belfry
they are literally providing new changes every 2 weeks
whether if its a small number change
or a whole ass update to a popular gamemode
pallid sapphire
kill this person
nocturne salmon
leeg of legegs
oblique belfry
the boy savior
slim magnet
whether if its a small number change
this is the thing
nocturne salmon
that garbag gajm
thick plover
they are literally providing new changes every 2 weeks
them changing the numbers does not equal making the game more fun
slim magnet
and make larger sweeps
thick plover
like ok atakhan was cool when it first released
oblique belfry
only once per season
the super changes come around new seasons those i can agree
but they are not just doing nothing
thick plover
then the game for a entire year or however long he was in
oblique belfry
for example they can just decide oop senna is a jungler now
thick plover
was just played the same
oblique belfry
without there being a new season
thick plover
1st month it was unique then it was just the same shit until the newest season dropped
slim magnet
senna could always jungle tho like just because a youtuber said it now can because he realized a month late doesn't mean they just enabled it
bruh
left mantle
Mainly because anytime they tried to nerf him it was either nobody did him or games were decided by him
thick plover
for example they can just decide oop senna is a jungler now
okay but this still doesn't change how the game is played
oblique belfry
or rework something
untold spear
it's whatever, because anything that is remotelly fun will be nerfed to the ground because it's op in pro play
thick plover
you would play the same around the senna if she was a support
untold spear
atakhan is a good example
oblique belfry
okay but this still doesn't change how the game is played
well duh what the fuck do you want ? turning the game into an fps or smth ?
slim magnet
inb4 no actually they gave her 10% increased damage against jungle camps
or something inane like that
oblique belfry
how the fuck can they change how the game is played
closest thing was the new atakhan objective
thick plover
they cant do that now because its too late
left mantle
atakhan is a good example
atakhan lost his "being fun" charm really quick once you played enough games with him.
slim magnet
like how "zed jungle fucking died" and they just slightly reduced his extra damage to monsters from his passive
oblique belfry
which was just another reason for teamfight
thick plover
like honestly
slim magnet
or how "darius jungle is fucking over" and they just toned down the healing slightly
what the fuck is that
oblique belfry
they cant do that now because its too late
its a live service game ??
thick plover
if they did a big addition every 6 months the game would be more playable than literally
oblique belfry
its never late
slim magnet
big changes everybody
oblique belfry
were taking it out next year btw
cuz of feedback
people despised atakhan after few months
because how it locked the game in some occasions
verbal gate
they shortened the heal time of x character, its joever
untold spear
atakhan lost his "being fun" charm really quick once you played enough games wit...
that's bound to happen with anything if you do it enough. the thing is that it changed the game dynamic because now there is another objective on the map and people have to play considering it.
left mantle
that's bound to happen with anything if you do it enough. the thing is that it c...
Not even considering, you had to take it.
You were forced to have to take it
untold spear
that's why u have random shit becoming meta like swap
oblique belfry
yep
left mantle
Because you actually lost if you didn't
slim magnet
but shit somehow means the game is not stale because it gets patches every 2 weeks
copper vapor
or how "darius jungle is fucking over" and they just toned down the healing slig...
if it's enough to end his viability as a jungler, then it's enough
numerical tweaks and tune-ups don't have to be huge to be impactful
oblique belfry
it was so forced to the point atakhan had like what 70% wr ?
thick plover
like just changing the role of the champion changes nothing
oblique belfry
it even surpassed barons on some games
slim magnet
if it's enough to end his viability as a jungler, then it's enough
numerical tw...
the healing just made it easier darius has always been able to jungle too
like
oblique belfry
like just changing the role of the champion changes nothing
its still a change in scenery
slim magnet
any character with aoe damage
oblique belfry
and thats not nothing
slim magnet
and healing
left mantle
The numbers on how atakhan influenced games is actually fucking insane
slim magnet
and some cc
left mantle
he was up to 80%+ at some point near his introduction
oblique belfry
if it's enough to end his viability as a jungler, then it's enough
numerical tw...
they reworked jungle to the point yuumi can jungle
due to how busted the life regen is
thick plover
The numbers on how atakhan influenced games is actually fucking insane
i remember watching a video of a team being like 5k gold down
oblique belfry
they simplified it
thick plover
they got 1 kill went atakhan
untold spear
he was up to 80%+ at some point near his introduction
pro play or soloq?
thick plover
they were now equal with the enemy tema
left mantle
And you felt that shit in like 10 games
left mantle
pro play or soloq?
Both.
oblique belfry
they were now equal with the enemy tema
which is why they wanted it either reworked or gone
untold spear
there's a bias when it comes objetive win rate in games because usually the team getting the objetives was already winning in the first place
slim magnet
crazy how all of this is because i said league is stale
oblique belfry
otherwise it was a nice addition at first
left mantle
Atakhan was not fun to have.
verbal gate
kinda fun reading yall guys messages about a topic I know nothing about, really interesting stuff
carmine laurel
the only region still prospering is Asia
30-40 million players a day btw
most played game in the world
untold spear
and would've most likely won without it anyway
carmine laurel
surely dying
thick plover
im not saying its dying in general im saying other regions besides asia are just not playing it
untold spear
surely dying
he kinda right if we're talking esports
thick plover
specifically summoners rift
oblique belfry
im not saying its dying in general im saying other regions besides asia are just...
and where do you get this ?
carmine laurel
he's 100% wrong
untold spear
SA has a lot of viewrs but 0 spending money
carmine laurel
the game has 30 to 40 million unique players a day
its not dying
its not decaying
its the number 1 played game in the world
copper vapor
he kinda right if we're talking esports
esports is the 0.01% lol
carmine laurel
the next closest game gets 11.3 million players
oblique belfry
its the number 1 played game in the world
-# tft prolly more cuz its more accessible 
carmine laurel
its literally no diffed the entire market
untold spear
esports is the 0.01% lol
i'm talking about viewership and revenue
not the players themselves
left mantle
there's a bias when it comes objetive win rate in games because usually the team...
You could even be down and take it and go on to win, factoring this in atakhan raised your odds of winning by insane amounts for a singular objective
carmine laurel
i'm talking about viewership and revenue
Revenue from fucking wildrift is a billion dollars a year
left mantle
Hell the WR for atakhan was higher than elder.
carmine laurel
viewership isnt even close to majority share
chrome ginkgo
Just remember chat
oblique belfry
Hell the WR for atakhan was higher than elder.
yep
copper vapor
i'm talking about viewership and revenue
he talked about the game losing players, not viewers
slim magnet
Just remember chat
never mention league in offtopic or else everyone goes mad
untold spear
he talked about the game losing _players_, not viewers
that's why i said he kind right if talking about pro play
chrome ginkgo
oblique belfry
never mention league in offtopic or else everyone goes mad
im not even mad 
this shit funny
chrome ginkgo
slim magnet
im not even mad <:kekcorn:1030520820252024924>
mad as in insane
untold spear
then again riot doesn't profit off from esports
carmine laurel
that's why i said he kind right if talking about pro play
proplay doesnt even make half the amount that casual skin sales do
copper vapor
that's why i said he kind right if talking about pro play
............... but he's talking about PLAYERS not people watching esports lmao
carmine laurel
like thats cherry picking something that doesnt even impact their baselines
chrome ginkgo
Courier 6 ragebaiting Ulysses is peak
nocturne salmon
leeg is a slop for a decade, kindred design was peak
untold spear
............... but he's talking about PLAYERS not people watching esports lmao
i know, that's why i made the tangent
i specified it
carmine laurel
90% of people who play league wont even watch a proplay stream but will have multiple skins
slim magnet
leeg is a slop for a decade, kindred design was peak
okay but bro has a dash kindred played part in league's death
left mantle
this shit funny
Talking about the absurdity of shit like atakhan is hilarious because it's always "There's no way they added in something that impactful" when that's exactly what happened
brittle karma
pp
oblique belfry
Talking about the absurdity of shit like atakhan is hilarious because it's alway...
an objective that gives you permanent buffs and tons of xp ? 
left mantle
Atakhan decided games.
untold spear
90% of people who play league wont even watch a proplay stream but will have mul...
pro play is how they get people to play the game though
oblique belfry
surely its not that bad
verbal gate
Courier 6 ragebaiting Ulysses is peak
I'm guessing you've already played the dlc before?
left mantle
pro play is how they get people to play the game though
Youtube is far higher on the list.
nocturne salmon
pro play is how they get people to play the game though
you mean arcane
carmine laurel
how they get people to play the game is a fucking youtube video from 6 years ago and a friend who already played the game
oblique belfry
those permanent buffs are the exact reason why dragons have been nerfed statwise
arctic flicker
<@399936008214282243> WHAAAAAAAAT HE ADDED CUSTOM DIFFICULTY
Custom diff, open dev console and potential future modding, who killed styg and took his skin
carmine laurel
no one gives a fuck about proplay
untold spear
you mean arcane
no way, people who liked arcane won't play league, it has nothing to do with arcane
left mantle
and that's still way below word of mouth
untold spear
no one gives a fuck about proplay
lol
carmine laurel
no way, people who liked arcane won't play league, it has nothing to do with arc...
you're actively wrong
nocturne salmon
verbal gate
I think folks still heavily disregard how large the impact of computer shops are in maintaining that tho
carmine laurel
so many people played league because it was connected
untold spear
then dropped
oblique belfry
https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-oh-the-misery-everybody-wants-to-be-my-enem...
untold spear
because it has nothing to do with arcane
nocturne salmon
copper vapor
no way, people who liked arcane won't play league, it has nothing to do with arc...
you'd be surprised
carmine laurel
dude it doesnt matter if 50% of a million people drop the gaem
chrome ginkgo
Custom diff, open dev console and potential future modding, who killed styg and ...
He reached Enlightenment
nocturne salmon
verbal gate
klipy user
carmine laurel
it gets fucking 40 million players a day
you're talking about literal pocket change
pliant meteor
https://youtu.be/LKXl3zR7GwI This is your yearly reminder of the existence of this gem
chrome ginkgo
"All things should be challenging, but people approach the game with different knowledge and capacity for suffering. Therefore I should ease them into the suffering to make them strong enough for advanced suffering"
thick plover
i actually love youtube
chrome ginkgo
Styg - 2026
carmine laurel
there are more people playing league right now than there are in the next 6 cites in 70 miles around me
verbal gate
evry singl person is mi enemi
thick plover
and google
copper vapor
especially considering you think people play league because they watched esports of it
average joe plays league because
1 it's free
2 runs on a potato
3 high chance joe's friends already play it and/or are willing to jump in with
thick plover
cant find the thing after searching for exactly what I want to find
fuck these search engines man
verbal gate
especially considering you think people play league because they watched esports...
also its one of the most common games installed in computer shops
left mantle
especially considering you think people play league because they watched esports...
yeah friends already playing league is actually massively why it's successful
verbal gate
Asian computer shops still pull hard mane
arctic flicker
"All things should be challenging, but people approach the game with different k...
Nothing like a honey trap to lure one into an abyss
oblique belfry
@celest plank s6 ep 19
slim magnet
there are more people playing league right now than there are in the next 6 cite...
yes but - see, the only alive region is china, and china has like 20% of the world's population, 40 million people is probably less than the amount of folk living in a small town there, what is your point?
left mantle
I'd still be playing dota if more of my friends actively played it.
thick plover
especially considering you think people play league because they watched esports...
also there just being aram and tft
god i remember queueing league not being able to find summoners rift in 4 minutes
queued tft and got a game in 10 seconds
oblique belfry
queued tft and got a game in 10 seconds
flex took us 8 min to find
but aram took us 30
arctic flicker
Alright time to get skill issue'd again on HD2
thick plover
flex took us 8 min to find
literally
copper vapor
also there just being aram and tft
true
I miss playing these silly game modes
thick plover
the amount of fun ive had on tft 2 years ago compared to the season atakhan was added
copper vapor
BRING BACK DOMINION
carmine laurel
TT is the only thing I need back
untold spear
BRING BACK DOMINION
you're gonna play arena and you're going to like it!
copper vapor
you're gonna play arena and you're going to like it!
no
copper vapor
TT is the only thing I need back
twisted treeline mentioned 
untold spear
invasion? never ever
thick plover
arena too oh my god man
arctic flicker
it's literally a pve game though
10x Vox Engines nearby, JuSt HiT ThEiR WeAkSpOtS
thick plover
i didnt try the new aram either
left mantle
10x Vox Engines nearby, JuSt HiT ThEiR WeAkSpOtS
Skill issue clearly
oblique belfry
arena too oh my god man
was the biggest industry change ever
ever since arena was added
arctic flicker
Skill issue clearly
clearly
carmine laurel
If I hopped on TFT right now I'd have 6 minute queue as I wait for fucking high elo players to queue with me
celest plank
<@1432405659852345355> s6 ep 19
We are beginning the end
thick plover
10x Vox Engines nearby, JuSt HiT ThEiR WeAkSpOtS
the engine when I am throwing a grenade into it
oblique belfry
everything was going great
thick plover
(the vent got blocked)
oblique belfry
and now they slapped arena on aram
chrome ginkgo
Insane justification
left mantle
If I hopped on TFT right now I'd have 6 minute queue as I wait for fucking high ...
also yeah this, the amount of time the game spends trying to make sure you don't get shit stomped in every mode
oblique belfry
ALL THANKS TO TFT ADDING AUGMENTS BTW
untold spear
and now they slapped arena on aram
i thought it was kinda mid
thick plover
but like yea the queue times are just faster on other modes than on summoners at this point I think
carmine laurel
not even close to true
thick plover
even when I queued fill id be queueing for more than a minute
oblique belfry
but like yea the queue times are just faster on other modes than on summoners at...
it varies tbh
carmine laurel
anecdotal 100%
oblique belfry
sometimes it takes 1 minute for me to go into solo queue
sometimes 5
sometimes it takes 5+ mins to go aram
sometimes 10 seconds
carmine laurel
the only reason you remember the ones that take long is because they break from the norm of instant joins
thick plover
probably the fact I just never really grinded tft and just played it for fun
is the reason the queue is shorter
copper vapor
sometimes in arc it takes me 10 minutes to enter a late lobby
sometimes I get a fresh match in 10 seconds
untold spear
yeah but nobody plays arc so...
proven tundra
So true
left mantle
copper vapor
can we legally kill graynames yet
proven tundra
Yes
untold spear
thick plover
I mean tbf he is like half wrong half right
untold spear
those arc raiders simps trynna steal tarkov's glory
thick plover
games these years just drop a ton of their playerbase after the first few months aka the honeymoon phase
untold spear
copper vapor
@pallid sapphire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK9EAy0GYQY
thick plover
I remember when everyone here was on that dune game
carmine laurel
sometimes in arc it takes me 10 minutes to enter a late lobby
sometimes I get a ...
had one day recently where every match I joined on Dam spawned me at 19 minutes, in the exact same place, and with the same loot in the first box I open
verbal gate
grey name
tarkov
beat em with hammers
carmine laurel
"Games these years"
you mean games always
thick plover
now well nobody in any of the 6 friend groups where it was mentioned which I am in is it talked about anymore
copper vapor
games these years just drop a ton of their playerbase after the first few months...
that's more due to the fact that there's so many different games to play, most people don't stick in just one game for long
carmine laurel
very few games ever hold a steady point
thick plover
last year there were legit like 50+ good games to play
carmine laurel
HOI is unique in that its one of the only games that actually grows over time and doesnt drop
carmine laurel
last year there were legit like 50+ good games to play
yeah and how many did you buy?
carmine laurel
literally just guess
frank hearth
10x Vox Engines nearby, JuSt HiT ThEiR WeAkSpOtS
carmine laurel
the point is each game you bought lowered player time for another game
you made Mbo's point
copper vapor
this is why I buy less than 5 games per year
proven tundra
I remember when everyone here was on that dune game
The only reason I stopped is because they took away family sharing and I didn't want to grind a new account
After 170 hours
thick plover
yeah and how many did you buy?
off the top of my head
nightreign kcd2 uhhhhhhh
helldivers in feb but that released 2 years ago now so it doesnt count
i played rivals but if I remember right that released in december 2024 so it doesnt count either
i was gonna buy e33 but I forgot what stopped me
untold spear
i think i played a single game released last year
and it was an indie game named silly polly beast
proven tundra
only game I bought this year so far
left mantle
man. I'm gonna play so much poe this year...
now show us past 2 weeks
proven tundra
verbal gate
I dunno how to articulate it properly, but one of the main reason why I enjoyed more fps in the past was because it was a really great fall back for when I finished a game and am currently searching for the next interesting one
copper vapor
first and so far only game I bought this year is nioh 3
slim magnet
what is iths
slim magnet
bro it's february
thick plover
copper vapor
what is iths
untold spear
what is iths
damn i wonder what does then
copper vapor
bought no rest for the wicked in december
misery in october
also jump space and elite dangerous odyssey
proven tundra
I don't think I have much else on my radar rn
upbeat verge
Ohhh yeah 
slim magnet
damn i wonder what does then
it probably just is a bad title to address the buzz lightyear shelf gif of "i'm different" guys
proven tundra
gimme 1.0 dammit
copper vapor
I really wanna get the last caretaker
loved the demo
for no specific reason
I just really vibed with it
proven tundra
I might pick this up when it goes dirt cheap
but it's not really "new"
copper vapor
I did meet a girl one time who said she liked people who were enthusiastic about things they liked
and proceeded to get bored outta her mind when a guy she met on tinder was enthusiastic about football
untold spear
i'm kinda excited for that 2,5 D dead space copycat
copper vapor
slim magnet
I might pick this up when it goes dirt cheap
but it's not really "new"
kinda new because they put project diablo 2 into the game
untold spear
copper vapor
kinda new because they put project diablo 2 into the game
"project" diablo 2?
untold spear
another 2 games i want to get are pragmata and ds2
dark souls 2?
thick plover
or well death stranding
copper vapor
pragmata felt too gimmicky from the demo
thick plover
idk I liked it
copper vapor
like alan wake
thick plover
i like gimmicky games
slim magnet
"project" diablo 2?
yeah pd2
copper vapor
use the flashlight so you can damage the enemy type shit
slim magnet
a mod for d2 lod
it's a fantastic mod
it's basically diablo 2 but what if it didn't have a single thing to complain about
really really really well balanced, a lot of new content, shit tons of qol
the works
copper vapor
slim magnet
the thing is that the new d2r expansion basically takes all the qol from pd2, a bunch of the balancing decisions from it, and the new class plays really like how the classes work in pd2
slim magnet
I did meet a girl one time who said she liked people who were enthusiastic about...
is it beta and chud behavior to not blast my interests on people if i'm not asked about them
like am i supposed to open a conversation by saying that i really love watching super mario 64 and san andreas speedruns
upbeat verge
I just realized
vital venture
like am i supposed to open a conversation by saying that i really love watching ...
You open it explaining the type of mommy asmr you watch
upbeat verge
the guns and bullets magazines inside the fortress of doom are a reference to fallout
slim magnet
look at the bookshelf
copper vapor
the guns and bullets magazines inside the fortress of doom are a reference to fa...
there's a lot of other magazines and books with references to a bunch of stuff
upbeat verge
ooh cool
omg this is cool 
The count of kadingir cristo
THE CACO IN THE RYE
brooooo
vital venture
Do you watch mommy asmr or that one women that does asmr of you getting into a car crash
Tells you a lot about someone off rip
nocturne salmon
what is iths
how it feels talkign with warhammer fans
vital venture
Gawd I cant wait until they collect the 20 billionth warhammer
Already at 19 billion
left mantle
the guns and bullets magazines inside the fortress of doom are a reference to fa...
Related, I like that satisfactory's HUB has a futurama reference on a book in it
slim magnet
what is bro typing for so long for
vital venture
Fuck he made the joke first
left mantle
"The mathematics of wonton burrito meals"
vital venture
nocturne salmon
left mantle
Don't multi-task kids
flat violet
Okay guys I have a question from a friend
"It had been quite a while, almost a month since I had touched the PC, I turned it on once or twice during that month, now, today, I had to do something on the PC, so I turned it on, the fans started and the LEDs came on
Problem is, the monitor was off, nothing, no signal, same for the mouse and keyboard
I opened up the panel, I put my hand under the GPU fans, randomly, and I've noticed that they weren't spinning
I turned off the computer, unplugged the connectors and plugged them back in, I turned the computer back on, the fans still weren't moving
Now, browsing the internet, I read that this most likely means that the GPU has gone to a better place, any thoughts?"
I need the best PC experts on this one
vital venture
Okay guys I have a question from a friend
"It had been quite a while, almost a...
Did he check what position the leds went to, before im assuming shutting off? Unless it still runs
real aspen
Okay guys I have a question from a friend
"It had been quite a while, almost a...
the fact that mouse and kb werent working is a good tell that it isnt just gpu
can you ask more questions or?
vital venture
In any case does he have the ability to plug the gpu cord into motherboard to check if it died, (I havent done pc shit in a min so idr if this is a specific motherboard thing)
hexed stag
Does his motherboard have a battery?
And what happens if it depletes?
wild vortex
does his cpu have integrated graphics? if so he could take out gpu see how that boots
vital venture
Oh yea integrated graphics
flat violet
can you ask more questions or?
I can
vital venture
Thats it
wild vortex
Does his motherboard have a battery?
And what happens if it depletes?
those wouldnt depleat THAT quickly though
he could take it out and put it back in but id watch a video on cmos reset before that
vital venture
Cmos battery
real aspen
every motherboard has one
CMOS
it dying shouldnt result in a major failure
so that's very unlikely to be the culprit
nocturne salmon
oh that thing
vital venture
Now that I think about it how often does the cmos battery need replaces anyway?
real aspen
it doesnt
nocturne salmon
when people talk about battery I imagine car battery looking ahh
wild vortex
Now that I think about it how often does the cmos battery need replaces anyway?
usually never, maybe 10 years is what i heard from one guy
slim magnet
i have never heard of a cmos dying
vital venture
Unless issues happen im assuming but this doesnt look like a cmos issue
untold spear
when people talk about battery I imagine car battery looking ahh
the things that you throw in the ocean to charge the eels
nocturne salmon
ask if they washed their pc
flat violet
does his cpu have integrated graphics? if so he could take out gpu see how that ...
Nope
wild vortex
CMOS RESET Is the idea
copper vapor
I had to replace the cmos battery on a motherboard once in my entire life
brittle karma
vital venture
Honestly I think the black screen with no gpu usage already says that its prob dead
pallid sapphire
<@353185583436398593>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK9EAy0GYQY
Uhhhhh
Nucr
Nice
vital venture
But im new with pc shit
zealous depot
wild vortex
Nope
did the motherboard have any leds that turned on particularly ones next to the word cpu or gpu or something
quiet abyss
https://giphy.com/gifs/sonic-the-hedgehog-PJiqz1RHkdtGE
yup
vital venture
Hi taco
left mantle
<:lurking:1396516763197509836>
vital venture
quiet abyss
vital venture
Mmmm quesadilla
flat violet
did the motherboard have any leds that turned on particularly ones next to the w...
Every led was turned on
wild vortex
vital venture
https://tenor.com/view/sbfswag-its-bleak-itsbleak-gif-1198830420792373735
Tell him good luck asking for spare change
flat violet
Tell him good luck asking for spare change
THE WHOLE PC IS FUCKED?
flat violet
vital venture
Nah gpu is just pricey
Or it could all be fucked
I havent read the full details
Oh wait every led did successfully turn on huh?
supple lotus
did ya do the basic shit? re-seat every component one after another, booting inbetween?
flat violet
Or it could all be fucked
I told him to bring his PC to an actual technician
vital venture
I told him to bring his PC to an actual technician
I mean theres thousands of questions we could sit here asking when it could be a specific one we forgot to ask
quiet abyss
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get on sm2
funny man
vital venture
The technician would ask for a price but he would prob know exactly what's fucked
quiet abyss
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