╟❓general-offtopic

[carmine laurel]

i'm defs going to go play now

so can duo if Kreeon wants his solo speed

[oblique belfry]

if y'all wanna go trio and cause chaos

[snow tree]

Duos are PvP cosntantly

[oblique belfry]

sure

[carmine laurel]

[snow tree]

Right now Im chill running Dam/Gate without any interactions

[rocky turtle]

[carmine laurel]

damn kreeo got abmm to pve solo's

[oblique belfry]

solos are like that

[carmine laurel]

not mine

[oblique belfry]

its 50/50 for me

but duos are always filled with action

[carmine laurel]

all my queues are fast paced and 70/30 leaning to combat atm

if I do meet a friendly its a

[oblique belfry]

last time i went to trio with mbo and yasu we killed like 4 different squads lmao

[carmine laurel]

"Hey, you go left and I'll go right, and we wont kill each other, ok"

[oblique belfry]

they were doing hidden bunker

[snow tree]

Yesterday solos was warzone

[proven tundra]

We did murder send a lot of people back to speranza

[oblique belfry]

[snow tree]

Today I loot with randoms around me

[marsh cargo]

Murder

[oblique belfry]

it was that murder spree that made me realize tempest is actuall good

[proven tundra]

[carmine laurel]

violence

[proven tundra]

Venator my love

[marsh cargo]

[proven tundra]

[uneven sapphire]

they got meleed to death

[marsh cargo]

London special

[oblique belfry]

damn combat theme goes hard

[carmine laurel]

i need a knife in arc raiders

I can only whack people with a hammer so much before I miss being able to shank them

[snow tree]

True

[proven tundra]

Bonking with the hockey stick is fun

[snow tree]

Quick melee with short distance

[quiet abyss]

what this?

[oblique belfry]

ruined king

[quiet abyss]

oh ok

idk what that is

but good for you

[copper vapor]

a kick then, or hitting ppl with the butt of your gun

[proven tundra]

Our legs should be pretty buff from all the running

[marsh cargo]

League of legends game

[quiet abyss]

when you put it like that...

[marsh cargo]

Yes

[rocky turtle]

@forest acorn hey atleast it works i got to 3rd floor

[marsh cargo]

Doge hasnt beaten his addiction to League

[oblique belfry]

oh i wanted to play it for a long while

[quiet abyss]

poor lad

[oblique belfry]

because i heard good things about it

[marsh cargo]

[quiet abyss]

good things?

about league?

no way

[oblique belfry]

can yall fuck off

im telling you

[marsh cargo]

Yes way

[quiet abyss]

[oblique belfry]

only the game itself and community sucks balls

lore is good

[quiet abyss]

maybe

[marsh cargo]

Ahri is neat

[quiet abyss]

i guess i cant really bitch about league, considering i love 40k lore

only difference is the games for 40k are better than league

[marsh cargo]

Go play dow 3

[slim blaze]

I feel fine. I never had a hangover.
Though, toilet at night was carpet bombed, so you win some you lose some

[rocky turtle]

terror packing 4 floor mission

summoned boss at all 3 floors

[celest plank]

fine shit, that night

now im getting lost in the middle of nowhere

[slim blaze]

Biggest winner is grim

[teal spade]

[forest acorn]

@rocky turtle these dudes started a revolt midway through this mission and it completed it for me

[rocky turtle]

[forest acorn]

oh wait lmao they flipped sides and are nice to me now

[rocky turtle]

welp 4 level mission complete as terror pack

[quiet abyss]

ok so im playing through honest hearts, tbh, waking cloud is kinda annoying

she complains during and after fights, because the sorrows are peaceful, gimme back follows-chalk, at least hes not annoying like her

quit yer yappin, now we are going to massacre the bighorner family whether you like it or not

[shrewd gull]

RAT DAD THERE'S A RAT IN #╟🔰☢newbies-chat

[signal kraken]

How's the new year ?

[proven tundra]

[quiet abyss]

it dead now

someone dispatched it

[blazing maple]

:(

[quiet abyss]

also energy weapons are garbage in new vegas

[thick plover]

IM FREEEEEEEEEE

FREEEEE I TELL YOU!!

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[quiet abyss]

i have 75 in the energy weapon skill, and the unique plasma rifle i have is just useless

[proven tundra]

[blazing maple]

tesla cannon and gauss is good

laser rcw also nice

[quiet abyss]

ok yeah the only 2

but the plasma weapons

[blazing maple]

alien blaster

[quiet abyss]

those things are so bad

[blazing maple]

Plasma caster good

[oblique belfry]

he said it

[quiet abyss]

true

[quiet abyss]

ive never really liked it

if im taking a heavy energy weapon

its gonna be the unique cannon

the one at the southern part of the map, with the crashed vertibird

the orang one

tesla-beaton

da doohickey

big damage

big feel

i like it

[marsh cargo]

Just mod it then

[quiet abyss]

and with WME mod, i can slap a scope on it

XD

[quiet abyss]

mod what?

[thick plover]

@sour rivet I CAN FINALLY KILL MYSELFFF

[marsh cargo]

The damage

[quiet abyss]

wym?

i dont follow

[marsh cargo]

Its not like there weren't 6 or soo mods buffing plasma weapons

[quiet abyss]

there is?

i should look later

[blazing maple]

just use crits

[chrome ginkgo]

This minecraft mod is crazy

[quiet abyss]

for now im just gonna go back to this machine

[blazing maple]

crits always make guns better

[quiet abyss]

because this machine is a monster

[chrome ginkgo]

but also holy shit I gotta kill 6 wardens

for a 5% chance for simulations to give warden loot

[quiet abyss]

56 damage? good god

[blazing maple]

This machine or that gun

[chrome ginkgo]

at 2560fe per tick

[blazing maple]

which way western man

[quiet abyss]

this machine is way better imo, i like it

and for pistols, i just use lucky

[blazing maple]

I like the sounds of that gun

bweeeep

[quiet abyss]

or the 1911

[chrome ginkgo]

I really need to make a better power generation setup if we're dealing with 1/20 after 6 kills

18 kills brings it up to 12%

[quiet abyss]

never really used that gun tbh

[blazing maple]

it's good 556 ammo

[quiet abyss]

i wanna try the special service rifle tho

[blazing maple]

can load up some AP rounds and bam

[quiet abyss]

in the long 15 mod

its an AR-10

i want

[blazing maple]

grab some explosives

always handy

[quiet abyss]

oh i got a mod, for quick throw

on G

i can finally use grenades

without wanting to blow my brains out

[craggy oriole]

grenade button underrated in games

makes me actually use them

[quiet abyss]

indeed, new vegas never had one

so it sucked

[blazing maple]

sometimes I like holding the grenade in my hands gently

[quiet abyss]

using dynamite was even more miserable without the G throw key

[blazing maple]

I whisper to it evil thoughts and then throw it

[quiet abyss]

caress it a bit, give it a smooch and toss it

[craggy oriole]

yeah making it so you can switch to them is good too

[blazing maple]

then it realeases that evil unto the world

[quiet abyss]

[blazing maple]

me in darktide

[quiet abyss]

me with my rock

[blazing maple]

"make momma proud"

BOOM

[proven tundra]

[blazing maple]

it's just new vegas is very sloooooow in everything

[quiet abyss]

indeed, so i dont use it

without the button

[blazing maple]

switching weapons, reloading, getting staggered

it feels stuttery

not snappy

[quiet abyss]

also in darktide, holding it in hand is a good thing tbh

it feels right

[craggy oriole]

is that nv conversion for fo4 done yet

[blazing maple]

cause darktide is responsive

[quiet abyss]

it just doesnt feel good on nv

[quiet abyss]

[blazing maple]

idk like 67 more times

[quiet abyss]

me when the headshot doesnt register

[bitter spire]

Got canceled

[upbeat verge]

Man

[craggy oriole]

rip

[upbeat verge]

I can't wait to fight the valkyries and SHIT on them

[quiet abyss]

but anyways, new vegas quick throw is great

love having it

just like having WME, and aWRP

[bitter spire]

Something about differences in creative direction or some sorry ass shit

[craggy oriole]

the backpack mod for nv is the best mod ever made

[quiet abyss]

oh and NVAO

[quiet abyss]

untrue

why would i need a backpack?

[craggy oriole]

you can set up a camp with it and stuff

[quiet abyss]

ok but i can also just rent a room at novac and live there forever

[proven tundra]

https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/total-war-three-kingdoms-d3bb7a

Decent free game on Epic

[quiet abyss]

fast travel is in NV

so i dont need it

[craggy oriole]

or you can wake up before the sun rises and brew coffee on the fire under the retiring stars

[quiet abyss]

lame

[bitter spire]

The penthouse in nv is better

[quiet abyss]

id do that irl

[bitter spire]

The casino

[quiet abyss]

but ingame is lame

[quiet abyss]

which one?

theres a few

besides i like the novac vibe

its more modest

[bitter spire]

The one at houses casino

[craggy oriole]

i dont know anyone who camps and i dont want to do it alone forever

[quiet abyss]

ew house

[chrome ginkgo]

Grenade button in NV takes Grenades from "meme only used in explosives builds" to "Wow basically everybody can benefit from 1-3 frags laying around"

[bitter spire]

And he has e-girls on call

[upbeat verge]

@quiet abyss 🏩

[craggy oriole]

house was on the flight logs

[upbeat verge]

wrongone

[quiet abyss]

right one

[upbeat verge]

WOAH

[quiet abyss]

[upbeat verge]

atrox meet me at the back of love hotel

[quiet abyss]

[upbeat verge]

in minecraft ofc

[proven tundra]

[quiet abyss]

yeah ofc

[bitter spire]

🏳️‍🌈?

[proven tundra]

[upbeat verge]

not really

[blazing maple]

living next to rich people makes my skin break out in hives

[blazing maple]

pantheon alt account

[bitter spire]

At least they can afford to skip the line @the hospital

Cup half full type shi blud 💯

[blazing maple]

I'm the reason there's a line at the hospital

#don'twashmyhandslol

#plaguewatch

#infestationspreader

[quiet abyss]

no

[blazing maple]

#immunesystemaintsoimmune

[thick plover]

Nurgles number 1 woman

[quiet abyss]

#nurglesfinest

[proven tundra]

You'd be depressed at the amount of men that work at the hospital that don't wash their hands after using the restroom

[quiet abyss]

shut up bogdan mines better

[thick plover]

I said it first

[quiet abyss]

you didnt even # it

so youre false

[blazing maple]

I love you both equally

[quiet abyss]

and lame

im true

and real

[thick plover]

I got 2 trues

[blazing maple]

please stop fighting :(

[thick plover]

so I am true

[quiet abyss]

me too dipshit

[blazing maple]

:(((

[quiet abyss]

[thick plover]

I got 3

get beat

[proven tundra]

Atrox you can't true react your own post

[quiet abyss]

yeah droons a stinker

[quiet abyss]

bogdan did

tell him that

[thick plover]

only after you did

[quiet abyss]

NO

NOT TRUE

[thick plover]

yes true

[quiet abyss]

[proven tundra]

Bogdan you can't true react your own post

[rocky turtle]

@forest acorn

[thick plover]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-mr-krabs-rock-kill-funny-gif-9335991183390802421

[quiet abyss]

there

we are equal

[proven tundra]

[quiet abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-cat-shaking-cat-alien-cat-gif-17719290639671130907

on gah?

[rocky turtle]

@forest acorn also got this

[blazing maple]

can you post a rat frozen in an ice cube

[thick plover]

2026 off to a great start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKwicTwrZHU

titanfall 3 is real

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-milk-gif-17986170929090731822

[copper vapor]

can't wait for this game to be hyped up to the stratosphere and then have 50 players when it comes out

[thick plover]

it got 500k in funding on kickstarter

[rocky turtle]

@forest acorn i got 3rd base on jupiter

[copper vapor]

funding ≠ players

[quiet abyss]

im fucking CHUGGING hopium rn

[thick plover]

you mean diesel

[quiet abyss]

yes

diesel infused hopium

i saw it like a year ago and was like "shit wont happen"

but now i actually believe in it

[thick plover]

I believed it would happen

because its titanfall game

and everyone wants titanfall 3

[quiet abyss]

well it depends if it sucks or not, and if it is half as good as it looks, it will be ok

or good

[thick plover]

therefore it was just a matter of tim

e

[thick plover]

I played the demo

it was fun

[quiet abyss]

there was a DEMO?

fuck

[thick plover]

yes

[quiet abyss]

i missed out

well anyways, if it was fun in its unfinished format

its bound to be good right?

besides

[thick plover]

you just go to the steam page

and require access to the test

[quiet abyss]

indie devs bee cooking bangers recently

[thick plover]

you can play it rn

[quiet abyss]

is it MP or single

[thick plover]

single

[quiet abyss]

id assume MP

oh

[thick plover]

its just a test

[quiet abyss]

hows it work?

just like, the movement?

and stuff?

[thick plover]

movement and the shooting of gun and you can drop a mech in

[quiet abyss]

was the gun "mouth feel" good?

as in did it feel good to shoot

[thick plover]

i dont form those opinions until I shoot at another player

[quiet abyss]

ah ok

animations look good so far

so im convinced

and im on board

im easily impressed

basically if the animations are at least 3x better than the original redacted games

then im happy

[little depot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1380450334056644658/1399054955339583598/six_cats_colored.gif

[carmine laurel]

[thick plover]

welcome back troglodyte

[runic condor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tongue-out-flight-flight-reacts-cat-tongue-gif-5336416477717479720

[little depot]

Happy Valentines day shiyon

[little depot]

Happy Hanukkah hannya

[quiet abyss]

bad news, my T-45 is breaking

[little depot]

Happy black history month

[quiet abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-mr-krabs-rock-kill-funny-gif-9335991183390802421

[runic condor]

happy to you too

[thick plover]

its january

[craggy oriole]

happy january history month

[rocky turtle]

happy new year

[little depot]

Happy azu month

[little depot]

[vital venture]

Then fix it

[quiet abyss]

i dont have a helmet to fix it with

the armor is fine, the helmet is having ouchies

might just wear the 1st recon beret for now

dont ask how i got the beret

lets just say boone is down a friend

[vital venture]

Had someone tell me they are a warhammer 40k fan for 8 years, asked what their favorite book is, they never read any of them

[craggy oriole]

i would never admit to anyone irl that i have interest in 40k

unforced error

[restive mantle]

stalker 2 gamma when

[vital venture]

Its just funny when they say they've been a fan of it for 8+ years but in reality they just know what space marines are and nothing else

[proven tundra]

!topic

[solid sundial]

@restive mantle

NO STALKER, NO MEMES, NO POLITICS

General chat to talk about anything (except Stalker, we already have a whole server for that).
If you need to ask a question about GAMMA, ask in #newbies-chat.
Stalcraft is fine, the setting of the game is Stalker but the game itself is not Stalker.

inb4 "uuuh this is a stupid rule, I don't like it and moderators stinks"
Cope

(the one posting this with !topic is a certified Reddit mod)

[vital venture]

Was waiting for someone to do it

[proven tundra]

I like 40k setting

[proven tundra]

I've only played rogue trader and haven't read any books

[quiet abyss]

hmmm fuck

im not sure what to do about this

i tried dicking with load order

i think its just not meant to be, so no .45 SMG for me

i moved all the mods i could, nothin

[vital venture]

Better then some of the 40k fans I've met, seen multiple that say they are huge fans of 40k but havent read a book or played any of the games

[hexed stag]

When you go to sleep and dream it up

[proven tundra]

I'm a sucker for science fiction and doomed/decaying universes

[vital venture]

Real decaying universes make interesting stories

Wonder when we get 40k extraction slop

[quiet abyss]

eugh disgusting cretins

[olive coral]

Dude i swear

[quiet abyss]

read the books you heathens

[olive coral]

Everytime i play modded Minecraft

[restive mantle]

🤓

[quiet abyss]

i love 40k novels

[olive coral]

I go to make some item or a machine

And then realise i have to make 5 others machines to do them

And then i need 5 more to do those 5

And then by the end i lose track and forget what the fuck i was doing it for the first place

[proven tundra]

We could
Have the players be imperial guards
Trying to get stuff and flee from Tyranids/chaos marines/etc

[proven tundra]

[vital venture]

I am close to finishing the second ciaphus cain book, trying to decide if I should start reading into the big ass horus Heracy or just finish it off ngl

[quiet abyss]

yeah nothing is fixing the sights, i give up

[quiet abyss]

i put them on my list, not done reading shadowsword

[quiet abyss]

the heresy? just read the first 4, skip the whole middle section, read garro weapon of fate, and the last novels

thats what i did

[vital venture]

Will say I didnt notice how common this was until like 3 weeks ago

[quiet abyss]

oh and i read the one on calth

i forgor name somehow

[forest acorn]

hiii :3

[quiet abyss]

ah know no fear

thats the one

amazing book

i did have a single issue with how guilliman was portrayed at the end

but otherwise great

[oblique belfry]

🥀

[rocky turtle]

[quiet abyss]

dude almost got packed up by one dude with a lil magic

[oblique belfry]

guys rdr2 next year trust

[vital venture]

I would ask but rather not be spoiled

[oblique belfry]

rdr2 this summer

rdr2 tomorrow

[vital venture]

And he did it anyway

[oblique belfry]

[quiet abyss]

too late

[vital venture]

[quiet abyss]

[proven tundra]

[quiet abyss]

this is payback for SoW

[oblique belfry]

i know

dont care

[craggy oriole]

is my winter car any good

[quiet abyss]

🖕

[vital venture]

I have no idea what you are talking about

[quiet abyss]

mhm sure

[proven tundra]

If you like my summer car I can't imagine it's too different? I haven't seen any gameplay tho

[quiet abyss]

anyways

yeah know no fear is great

[craggy oriole]

im trying not to spoil i just want peoples opinions

[vital venture]

Never played SoW once in my life

[quiet abyss]

you ever read the uriel ventris books @vital venture

theyre worth reading

[vital venture]

Not yet no

[craggy oriole]

if i hear a bunch of people say its underwhelming im probably just going to wait for it to go on sale

[quiet abyss]

i wouldnt bother with the books from honsous perspective, hes lame

and iron warrior

so really lame

[proven tundra]

Double lame

[craggy oriole]

i loved msc but i never finished the rally

[quiet abyss]

just read the ones from uriel and the ultramarines perspective

[vital venture]

I kinda wanna finish the ciaphus book im on then do horus heracy since everyone talks about how important that series is

[quiet abyss]

people hate on the smurfs

but theyre honestly pretty cool imo

[craggy oriole]

they have pompous energy to me

i dont like space marines though

[quiet abyss]

its honestly not that good besides the start and some of the other parts, once you lose the awe and shock of horus's betrayal, its kinda just shitty

in MY opinion

since the middle section is just about like... magnus, fulgrim, and the other traitors

[vital venture]

They hate on the smurfs, cause of the shit Mary Sue writing it had for I think a 5 year or so timespan?

Something something writer glazed smurfs something something

[quiet abyss]

idc about what pretty femboy fulgrim is doing, getting fucked in the ass by slaanesh or whatever, just show me lokens perspective again

[craggy oriole]

there was an author who really liked them

[quiet abyss]

[craggy oriole]

what da hell

[quiet abyss]

graham mcneil?

[craggy oriole]

no its like something ward or something idk

[quiet abyss]

well graham portrayed them honestly

[craggy oriole]

im not that deep into 40k

[quiet abyss]

and he did a great job

so idk who the other is

[vital venture]

I hear the writing for the Smurfs is pretty good if you ignore the glazers stuff but havent touched it yet so idk

[quiet abyss]

but mcneil wrote all the good shit for uriel ventris

[quiet abyss]

just read know no fear before you read the chapters due

the chapters due is in the uriel ventris series

[craggy oriole]

theyre just kind of annoying because of that and then people only like them cus theyre the bestest most praised and honored sons and stuff

[quiet abyss]

mostly because characters from KNF are in TCD

[craggy oriole]

and they have a perfect romeaboo larp society

[vital venture]

My favorite are salamanders but I still yet to read on them

[quiet abyss]

graham does talk a little about how ultramar is better than majority of imperial worlds, but its not perfect

just better

the fact that the people living underground in calth have a better life than literally any hive dweller is sad

[quiet abyss]

theres really not nearly as much on them as other legions/chapters

[craggy oriole]

well yeah thats what 40k always does it says theres no good guys but then is like "its pretty much paradise but things suck also sometimes!!!"

[quiet abyss]

the no good guys thing is half true

[craggy oriole]

the imperium isnt the good guy but also it fights baby torturers

[proven tundra]

Lamenters

[quiet abyss]

the imperium at large is shid

but certain chunks are nigh paradise

[craggy oriole]

its by and large the good guys though

[quiet abyss]

that

[craggy oriole]

grey morality creep

[quiet abyss]

but terra is a shithole, contrary to popular belief

XD

[craggy oriole]

ok like yeah they show the ways the imperium sucks

[quiet abyss]

literally one of the worst planets

[proven tundra]

I don't think I'd want to live on any hive world

[craggy oriole]

but then its like oh we have to sacrifice a billion psykers

[quiet abyss]

macragge is a prettier planet, and its nicer

terra is the original hive world

[craggy oriole]

it actually isnt an unfair witch hunt

[vital venture]

Also the author was Graham McNeill if the ai is right since I dont wanna go into reddit

[craggy oriole]

theyre actually provably dangerous

and need to be killed sadly

[quiet abyss]

which is a lie

since majority of the ones taken dont have much power

[craggy oriole]

its not though a daemonhost can destroy a planet

[quiet abyss]

but have enough power to feed the emperor

[craggy oriole]

it doesnt matter how powerful the psyker is theyre all ticking timebombs without strict mental conditioning

[quiet abyss]

the ones they take likely dont even have enough power to serve as a host

there are many that the inquisition doesnt even detect

[craggy oriole]

every time you see some injustice in 40k, at least nowadays, its instantly justified

[vital venture]

Always appreciate characters that are fucked in the very beginning

[quiet abyss]

theres probably like 1-2 trillion psykers that die per week that didnt know they were psykers

[craggy oriole]

oh those poor mutants getting purged this is so disgusting

oh wait theyre all genestealers

nvm

[quiet abyss]

no, theres lots of racism

[craggy oriole]

imperium was right!! but they arent the good guys

[quiet abyss]

not much is justified

youre not actually reading into the stuff that happens

[craggy oriole]

yeah but its constantly portrayed as justified because the ten billion sneaky bad guys that find their way in the cracks of the imperiums resolve

[quiet abyss]

in every hive theres more mutants being purged, demeaned or enslaved than anything else in a hive

[quiet abyss]

what?

no i mean the abhumans

[craggy oriole]

like you can say its unjustifiable in text directly a million times, all it takes is one depiction of a fleeing refugee family being genestealers and the imperium is right to be pricks

[quiet abyss]

and the other humans that have mutated due to chemicals in the hive, or from x or y other condition

forced on them BY THE IMPERIUM

[vital venture]

Only reason we treat ogryns fine is that they are good at fighting and too dumb to prob realize when someone is being racist to them

[craggy oriole]

yeah which sucks and all but any straying from the imperial plan means more tyrands and baby torturers

[quiet abyss]

the imperium beats these abhumans down so badly that it often causes them to turn to gods that "love them"

[craggy oriole]

im not saying they arent shown to be dicks in the fiction

[quiet abyss]

even though they only see the mutant as a way to tear down the imperium

[craggy oriole]

its that its constantly justified and softened by how shitty everything is

[carmine laurel]

watch the tithes
imperials show up to a world being besieged by orks
imperials think ammo reinforcements have arrived
nope, besieged world must give all the ammo they have left as a tithe or be branded traitors
imperials now leave a defenceless world behind to fight orks without ammo
ammo reaches its destination
too much ammo at destination, new ammo gets destroyed to save space

[craggy oriole]

yeah but then they kill all the orks and save the day

[carmine laurel]

if you actaully think they're good guy washing the imperium atm, you're not actually looking at the new media

[carmine laurel]

?????

[quiet abyss]

actually neither, it often just leads to people casting off the emperor and rebelling, not always worshipping chaos

[carmine laurel]

Fucking everyone dies

pointlessly

[quiet abyss]

nope

they die

all of them

die

literally

[carmine laurel]

and the ammo they're forced to give up that would have helped them, is just burnt and wasted

[quiet abyss]

exactly ^

[craggy oriole]

look im talking in relatives here

[carmine laurel]

its the best display of how little the imperium cares about its own

yeah and we're talking in actual released content

sooooo

"relatively speaking X and Y happen"
"ok but in the actual show they make, that doesnt happen"

[quiet abyss]

the imperium is ruthlessly inefficient in bureaucracy and administrative nonsense

its part of the setting

[vital venture]

I havent read enough books to enter this conversation especially if we are speaking recent books

[craggy oriole]

so then theres a moral arguement for joining chaos?>

[quiet abyss]

i mean, kinda but no

in terms of the mutants turning to chaos in underhives... kinda?

but in terms of the guard and marines turning to chaos? not really i guess

[carmine laurel]

the best faction in the entire 40k setting is still an authoritarion expansionist empire that'll kill you for resisting their message

[craggy oriole]

so it would be a good thing if everyone joined the bluies?

thats what ive been saying

[quiet abyss]

tau might be better, but at the same time, they enslave men

[craggy oriole]

theyre portrayed as the best choice

[carmine laurel]

Yeah, the Tau are who I'm talking about

[craggy oriole]

theyre de facto the good guys

[quiet abyss]

if you live in the hive? yes

[craggy oriole]

oh

[quiet abyss]

if you dont? no

[carmine laurel]

not in any books or media from the past 10 years

[quiet abyss]

if you live on an agri-world, why would you pick the kinda slavers

[craggy oriole]

most people who say the empire is bad will write an essay on how the tau will destroy the entire universe

[carmine laurel]

and we got new tau books last year (2025) that confirmed it

[quiet abyss]

oh they goodguy washed the tau

ok

[carmine laurel]

nah

[quiet abyss]

[carmine laurel]

the tau is straight up

"Let's talk before we kill you when you say no"

while everyone is "We dont talk first"

[craggy oriole]

theyre 20% nicer than the imperium

[carmine laurel]

thats the only difference

tau's stuff is fantastic if you're happy to live in a caste inside the tau's systems

if you feel like you like the idea of "upwards mobility" and "promotions"

then you're getting vanished

[vital venture]

Tbf compared to everyone else thats possibly the nicest thing you could do in this setting

[craggy oriole]

i mean caste system vs caste system enforced by being turned into a servitor or other weird torture device victim

im taking regular caste system

[carmine laurel]

yeah thats what my point was. Tau is the "best" faction in the 40k verse, and they still do things like virus bomb a planet to prevent a siege wasting their men

there is no good choice

[quiet abyss]

i get my tau knowledge from based books like courage and honour

so idk

[carmine laurel]

just degrees of warcrime

[quiet abyss]

but thats from 2009

so of course its off

[craggy oriole]

they got retconned into being mind controlled by a shady possibly extraterrestrial race

so rip that tbh

[quiet abyss]

i think thats been in their lore for a while

like 10 years

or something idk

[quiet abyss]

also arent all races extraterrestrial? besides humans?

[craggy oriole]

just feels like slowly everything thats not the imperium is being turned into dangerously naive or puppykicking evil

takes the complexity out

[quiet abyss]

but theyre not, you said you arent deep into 40k

thats likely why

although i dont know shit about tau overall, because like i said, my knowledge is from 2009's courage and honour

[glad parrot]

Literally me....

[quiet abyss]

i know most about the imperium, and probably tyranids?

[carmine laurel]

the tau is the imperium if the imperium cared about its own people and had rules against throwing them away

[quiet abyss]

or chaos

[vital venture]

Every faction in someway are dangerously naive tbh

[quiet abyss]

the imperium did care about their people... 10k years ago

[carmine laurel]

like even the tau's drones have "ignore suicidal orders" coding

[quiet abyss]

when the big gold man still lived

lmao

[carmine laurel]

but they do that whole "oh this guy isn't tau, railgun him and let him scream for help so we can railgun the medics"

[vital venture]

U have the empire being ignorant to how chaos fully works which is consistently being hinted at as being a horrible fucking idea

[quiet abyss]

yeah tau are assholes to anyone thats not them and doesnt want to be them

[craggy oriole]

they arent part of the set

blast em

[carmine laurel]

and your orks are "rip his arms off cause humans make funny sounds when they scream"

[glad parrot]

WHY IS THIS ALWAYS SO FREAKIN FUNNYYYY I DONT EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT HES SAYING

[quiet abyss]

no its ok since tau have like no warp presence

[carmine laurel]

dark eldar are you puppy kicking evil cause no one knows how to write them

[carmine laurel]

Tau'va exists now

[quiet abyss]

its been 12 days dawg

where were you

[copper vapor]

haha torture and sex

[craggy oriole]

thats what i mean, all the "theyre better to their people" thing gets undercut by them being portrayed as naive and dangerous

[carmine laurel]

actual warp god of the tau + their auxil forces

[quiet abyss]

whats that

oh

[glad parrot]

I was with family, DAWG

[craggy oriole]

anything thats not big daddys plan is bad and harmful

[quiet abyss]

ew

[vital venture]

Every faction in their own ways are naive

[quiet abyss]

well hold on, if the emperors plan didnt fail

[carmine laurel]

but the whole point of Tau'va was to make the tau (blue tau) scared and aware of pyskers and the warp

[quiet abyss]

humanity would be in a era of wonder

[vital venture]

Its why they are considered decaying empires or etc

[quiet abyss]

and peace

[craggy oriole]

thats what i mean

[quiet abyss]

mostly

[carmine laurel]

since she was born while they were fighting deathguard

[quiet abyss]

but since big gold man died

and magnus fucked it

and magnus DID DO WRONG THINGS

FUCK YOU MAGNUS SYMPATHIZERS

[carmine laurel]

In more imperium news

The Lion returns to 40k soon

[quiet abyss]

magnus did lots wrong, he chose to be retarded

[carmine laurel]

so two of the loyalist primarchs are back

[craggy oriole]

if everyone didnt get sabotaged by chaos it would be perfect and fine and the fact that the emperor is still alive and hanging by a thread in the warp means that the imperial plan is the best choice and anything that hinders it is defacto immoral and bad

[vital venture]

Big gold man died and empire turned into near the opposite of what big man wanted

[quiet abyss]

also when will russ return? hes not confirmed dead

or corax, also not confirmed dead afaik

[carmine laurel]

probably when they decide if Jagatai is dead or alive

[glad parrot]

I'm sorry for havin a private life pfff

[copper vapor]

dow4

[quiet abyss]

hes likely dead if you ask me, but still not confirmed

[vital venture]

Like half of the primarchs aren't confirmed to be either alive or dead

[quiet abyss]

half the loyal ones arent confirmed alive/dead

[craggy oriole]

primarch stuff is really confusing

[carmine laurel]

yeah his whole thing of being "last seen fighting in the webway"

[quiet abyss]

the traitors are mostly alive

[quiet abyss]

not really anymore

[carmine laurel]

But GW did that on purpose anyway

its easy to hold the loyalists in reserve for when you need a deus ex machina

[quiet abyss]

its literally "Bad primarch alive mostly, loyal mostly unconfirmed"

[quiet abyss]

or need emergency model sales

if we are realistic

[carmine laurel]

and its easy to make the chaos primarchs a punching bag to reveal that chaos divided cant do shit

[vital venture]

Even a decent amount of the traitors are dead tho a bigger portion are alive ye

[thick plover]

me when I am the most important figure of my faction and I go missing

for no reason

[carmine laurel]

I mean this is all gw has ever cared about

[thick plover]

[craggy oriole]

if the emperor comes back and does his plan perfectly and its not sabotaged by outside forces and it sucks complete ass and everyone has to team up and stop what he did ill take back what i said about the fiction always justifying the empire

[quiet abyss]

oh also when will vulkan step back into the setting

since hes unable to die

besides like 3 convoluted specific ways

[thick plover]

you are going to DIE before the emperor comes back

[timber oxide]

I feel like shit and my body tries to convince me to drink more to feel better but I won't fall for that trick

[carmine laurel]

even the reason we only have male space marines is due to "GW sold female space marines in 1982 and they didnt sell as well as male space marines so they dropped the line"

[upbeat verge]

aalright

[carmine laurel]

same as Rowboats situation: "When we need a get out of jail free card"

[craggy oriole]

i am 200 years old the year is 2226 i have invented life extending technology, the last thing i see before i die is the 60th emperor is coming back tease

[upbeat verge]

apparently power level 4 ISN"T enough for muspelheim

[quiet abyss]

well im happy robotic trashcan is back

[vital venture]

If he even doesnt just straight up die

[quiet abyss]

i think its funny thats hes more bitter and sarcastic now

[upbeat verge]

the second challenge is basically impossible because none of my AOE attacks can kill 5 enemiesat once in quick succession ggs

[carmine laurel]

me too mostly because they were forced to make plot progress with it

[quiet abyss]

well the plan cant happen ever again

[craggy oriole]

i think it genuinely is just they didnt want to make female space marine molds

[carmine laurel]

like the most significant lore update 40k received in 15 years was cadia getting trashed

[quiet abyss]

since the webway is destroyed

[upbeat verge]

i'm going to deal with muspelheim later

[quiet abyss]

(thanks magnus)

[upbeat verge]

half the challenges are ass anyway

[carmine laurel]

no,they already made those in 1980s

[upbeat verge]

and the armor is ass too

[carmine laurel]

they just didnt sell

its not a secret

[quiet abyss]

[carmine laurel]

and then 30 years down the line, they've already written shit for it

[vital venture]

Made early on but they sold so horribly they just retconned it

[thick plover]

they had gulliman coming back

[quiet abyss]

im kinda happy theyre making the 13 crusades less of a shitter

[thick plover]

and then nothing else happened

[craggy oriole]

also fuck female space marines weve had catachans this whole time

[quiet abyss]

and more of a great abbadon plan

[thick plover]

LITERALLY

NOTHING

[quiet abyss]

by chaos

[thick plover]

AT ALL

NOTHING

[carmine laurel]

if they thought it would bring them so many sales that they'll rewrite it, they'll do it in 5 minutes

[thick plover]

HE JUST COMES BACK

[timber oxide]

Wouldn't it make no difference most of the time cause they wear helmets anyways?

[thick plover]

BOOM NOTHING HAPPENS

[carmine laurel]

all GW has ever cared about is money

[thick plover]

WAIT THIS SHITS PEAK

[quiet abyss]

SHUT THE FUCK UP BOGDAN

YOU FUCKING IDIOT

jesus

[carmine laurel]

yes, but the chuds are scared of female characters

[quiet abyss]

also things did happen, he launched the indomitus

[thick plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191157234261033150/1402045900876156948/togif.gif

[quiet abyss]

but ok

[quiet abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1218928967470546996/1447382452401213532/attachment_1.gif

[craggy oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1218928967470546996/1447382452401213532/attachment_1.gif

[thick plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1218928967470546996/1447382452401213532/attachment_1.gif?ex=6957b833&is=695666b3&hm=5f47abe08aa2ed544bac684a5c4fcb6070f028dc90fa8136ada4efea7a1167c7&

[nocturne aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/why-just-why-but-why-monkey-gif-18202838286539704455

[snow tree]

[timber oxide]

I'm personally too used to space marines being exclusively male and I want it to stay that way cause I don't like pointless changes in my life

[quiet abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-mr-krabs-rock-kill-funny-gif-9335991183390802421

[upbeat verge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1218928967470546996/1447382452401213532/attachment_1.gif

[quiet abyss]

YOU RUINED IT

[vital venture]

Space king Fandom being a good example even tho I think its a good parody, Jesus christ the fandom

[nocturne aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/lionking-simba-baby-simba-throw-off-throw-from-cliff-gif-2491760533743383368

[carmine laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-inquisition-captain-tyrith-the-tithing-episode-2-gif-3727559345089524137

[quiet abyss]

besides it was established its male only, soo

[carmine laurel]

Like heres an official female custodes

[quiet abyss]

but custodes can be female

[craggy oriole]

all they need to do is stop absolutely rinsing the sisters of battle

[quiet abyss]

so people cant bitch

but they do

[craggy oriole]

and itd be ok

[quiet abyss]

wym

[timber oxide]

Yeah, custodes
I don't really care about that one

[quiet abyss]

well the custodes arent done by geneseed, theyre rebuilt from scratch basically, so its ok

it just takes ages

[thick plover]

apparently the main reason is "well females cant handle the gene seed it just fucking kills them cause biology" or some shit the nerds blabble about

[quiet abyss]

thats why theyre not frontline soldiers

[thick plover]

remember the whole female space marine thing in amazon show

[carmine laurel]

yeah but my point is that people act like getting a female version of them is gonna be like some super model instead of a walking wall

[thick plover]

[quiet abyss]

yes, but that lore is 30 years old

[carmine laurel]

whereas we've seen that GW is gonna make them look exactly the same so they can sell the models easily with minor changes

[quiet abyss]

so why change it

for no reason

[timber oxide]

Like they are going to be so ugly you wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyways

[craggy oriole]

yeah females are too feeble, it takes a real man to recieve such potent seed

[thick plover]

yea I see that

and it makes sense

[carmine laurel]

the anti women crowd getting hurt when you point at the official lore describing space marines as "horse-faced"

[quiet abyss]

its just the nerds are retarded, and think that the female custodes marks the end of their male fantasy of only big MANLY, STRONG, MEN

[olive coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1218928967470546996/1447382452401213532/attachment_1.gif

[craggy oriole]

wait theyre not all square jawed daddies???

[olive coral]

fix feven

[snow tree]

Horse? Space Marines confirmed Umamusumes

[thick plover]

fix feven

[carmine laurel]

Real

[upbeat verge]

fix feven

[uneven sapphire]

white scars

[timber oxide]

Well then
I'm leaving the 40k fandom

It was nice knowing y'all

[snow tree]

[carmine laurel]

Reminder that we got Primaris Marines dropped on us because GW wanted to force people to use the new models instead of kitbashing old ones

[snow tree]

Jokes on them

[carmine laurel]

and we then go Space Marine 2 to help make sure all the fans accepted it by killing Titus and making him a Primaris too

[quiet abyss]

i mean i liked the primaris lore, but yeah thats true

[vital venture]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[quiet abyss]

i mean i loved how they were portrayed in dawn of fire

[craggy oriole]

gw acting real bold in a world where 3d printers exist and every pdf can be found for free on the internet

[quiet abyss]

with messinius teaching them how to be human

[carmine laurel]

GW literally only cares about their model lines sales, and they will rewrite anything to keep it happening if they think they'll see the profit from

[quiet abyss]

after 10k years of psycho training

[thick plover]

you see

this doesnt matter

[pallid sapphire]

Pudding or no pudding thats the important question

[thick plover]

because GW started a lawsuit on one of these companies

that sold 3D printed models for a affordable price

[carmine laurel]

the downside is you can't use more than 30% of a custom model if you wanna play "official" GW tournaments and games

[quiet abyss]

you can always get the model pdfs

[carmine laurel]

So like if you play at a GW store, you can't 3d print

[snow tree]

And that's gonna stop people from 3d printing themselves how??

[quiet abyss]

who cares? idk

also i dont want models for playing

i want models for painting and collecting

[carmine laurel]

For you who doesnt play the tabletop, its a w/e

[quiet abyss]

thats literally it

[carmine laurel]

but for the people who actually buy the 10k packs of models

they wanna show that shit off

[quiet abyss]

so im printing a contemptor dreadnought

[thick plover]

I mean yea the people printing models for themselves are still gonna exist
but the people that want models and not a 3D printer are gonna have to buy the overpriced bullshit

[snow tree]

Ill make my 3d prints so close to GW stuff they won't know the difference

[quiet abyss]

gonna paint a rylanor :D

[carmine laurel]

no one who's building a titan legion is also not going to the shop to brag about it

and the sad thing is GW got it right with that prediction

[quiet abyss]

lmao

[pallid sapphire]

Just scan official figures from a friend and print them

[snow tree]

Nowadays you can literally find makerspace in your local bigger city

[carmine laurel]

for every one model that people 3d print to use at home, you have a dozen more people fighting over the limited stock boxes

[snow tree]

Unless you live in bumfuck nowehere, then why are you buying overpriced GW stuff to begin with

[carmine laurel]

hell we have rentable 3d printer shops here in rsa

[carmine laurel]

theres a reason its called plastic crack

but yeah, I have my officially built army for official tournaments

[snow tree]

Shion do you need help? A little intervention?

[quiet abyss]

or just scan unofficial models copied from official models from a friend

[carmine laurel]

and I 3d print all the expensive shit for display

[quiet abyss]

because no one i know has official ones

[vital venture]

Realistically the boardgame doesnt really seem that great so I always just saw it as a way for people to show off their homemade shitshows that they spent more time making then playing the boardgame with

[snow tree]

[quiet abyss]

because they have printed ones

[pallid sapphire]

Yeah easy

[timber oxide]

But if you 3d print it then is it still expensive

[quiet abyss]

or go to a GW tournament, and scan random peoples shit

[carmine laurel]

theres like 4 different wargames that use the 40k models

[quiet abyss]

deadass

[carmine laurel]

you'll be able to find the version you enjoy if you look

[pallid sapphire]

20€ for a kg of material

[carmine laurel]

for the bigger pieces its still expensive, just not as expensive

[pallid sapphire]

My neighbour prints them

[timber oxide]

That's cheaper than a kg of official stuff

Like, much cheaper

[quiet abyss]

yeah

[snow tree]

Of course

[pallid sapphire]

1kg is a lots of models

[quiet abyss]

a 2kg spool of filament for a printer is like 38 dollar here

[snow tree]

But you also need to clean it up to have it look nice

[quiet abyss]

well that too

but thats acceptable to save 200 dollars

[timber oxide]

Oh I can just drop it off to my friend, he loves doing this shit

[snow tree]

You still save lotsa money

[craggy oriole]

youre getting crazy accurate printers with no visible printlines and stuff nowadays

[nocturne aurora]

i wonder what are realy cheap hobbys

[quiet abyss]

"Oh no I have to clean my 2 dollar model!"

[craggy oriole]

its reaching a point that i never thought consumer 3d printers would achieve

[timber oxide]

existing hold up that costs too

[quiet abyss]

if someone actually bitches about that

they can shut the fuck up

[pallid sapphire]

And even your phone can handle it

[thick plover]

throwing bricks at homeless people

[nocturne aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-disappointed-fan-seriously-what-are-you-doing-judging-you-gif-17485289

[nocturne aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/chair-hit-throw-rigby-gif-17178150

[pallid sapphire]

Theres even browser based sites now so a printer really doesnt need any ram ussge unlike CAD programs

[vital venture]

I would have to buy the brick

[quiet abyss]

cheap hobbies? you have a pc, you have hands, you have internet, so just get pdfs of novels and read them

unless you hate reading

[thick plover]

just buy a chisel and chisel out bricks from random peoples houses out of their walls

[carmine laurel]

and if you hate reading

[timber oxide]

It all depends on how we look at it

[carmine laurel]

improve yourself

[quiet abyss]

but thats how i read 40k novels, just search book title + pdf

[thick plover]

whos gonna stop you

[quiet abyss]

and there it is

[timber oxide]

You could say that art as a hobby is cheap as fuck cause all you need is a pencil and a piece of paper

[thick plover]

they will never know it was you as long as you strike at a unrecognizable pattern and leave no evidence

[copper vapor]

gaming. reading books/comics/manga.
movies, tv shows, anime

(if you know where to "obtain" them )

[quiet abyss]

no, you chisel chunks of brick, then glue them together into a homemade brick

cheaper, and they dont notice

id know, ive personally made 43 bricks this way

[vital venture]

U would need to buy the glue

[carmine laurel]

I've got a super cheap hobby for you

[vital venture]

[quiet abyss]

and nailed like 37 homeless people in the skull with the bricks

[carmine laurel]

read the scp wiki in order

[quiet abyss]

[snow tree]

TTRPGs

[craggy oriole]

i alwaysw wanted a fabrication shop but that shits expensive

[timber oxide]

Internet bills

[craggy oriole]

would be cool to just make stuff

[quiet abyss]

steal it from some retard

thats what i did

[nocturne aurora]

the fun stuff is i started gaming with an shit pc, now i have an high end gaming rig for youtube and games from 2010

[quiet abyss]

[thick plover]

go to a construction site where the workers are Turkish
they probably are striking because pay was 1 day late and are throwing material off the building
free material

[carmine laurel]

public libraries are free

[craggy oriole]

end mill grinding wheel and lahe setup

[thick plover]

wait this is method

im writing it down

[snow tree]

But I like going there and hitting random....

[timber oxide]

ew, library

[vital venture]

Okay just dont question if your missing some glue

[quiet abyss]

also this

[carmine laurel]

I did the whole in order thing to upset my friend who insists its the wrong way to do it

[snow tree]

[quiet abyss]

free steel beam to beat up a homeless person with

[timber oxide]

Begging for money on the street sounds like a good hobby

[thick plover]

throwing water balloons at people is a fun hobby

[quiet abyss]

true

i should do that

good idea pyr

[timber oxide]

I mean, think about it, you're outside, get to interact with people and you might even earn a bit of money

[quiet abyss]

free money generator

[thick plover]

you can swap out water balloons with snowballs in the winter

and its literally free

[carmine laurel]

Kreeon

[copper vapor]

[timber oxide]

I actually always drop a coin for people who play instruments on the street

But that's a higher level which requires investment (instrument and maybe a speaker to fake playing the instrument)

[uneven sapphire]

[thick plover]

you could also just

get a hat, place it on the ground, pour paint on yourself and just stand there

[timber oxide]

I always liked when my colony was raided
I had an excuse to bring out the tanks from the garage

[little depot]

Coolest game ever

Look inside
Extraction shooter

[uneven sapphire]

valid

[thick plover]

[timber oxide]

Hi azu

[thick plover]

what game

[little depot]

Hunger

Hi pearson

[uneven sapphire]

tho most of my colonists are melee characters

[nocturne aurora]

or glue yourself on the street and call it ,, protest´´

[timber oxide]

Using tanks allowed me to bypass the pussies who refused to use weapons, cause if you put them as gunners they'd shoot anyways

[thick plover]

oh that game does look good

[little depot]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1752080/HUNGER

Steam

HUNGER

War has ravaged Europe - but something far worse now grips the continent. A Bacterium of unknown origin has twisted the land, leaving behind only ruin, fear, and something far more sinister. In this PvPvE first person extraction RPG, players will scavenge a decaying world, face unspeakable horrors, and outlast rival survivors in desperate, high\…

Release Date

Coming soon

[thick plover]

I have it wishlisted

since like foreva ago

[little depot]

Idk how to feel about

One one hand it seems really good

On the other hand

Holy fuck it's mh x tarkov

[thick plover]

hunt showdown but more loot dependent

is what I would say

and I like that

[little depot]

And looks more grindy

Like

A lot more grindy

[craggy oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1218928967470546996/1447382452401213532/attachment_1.gif

[little depot]

I'm disowning you

[rocky turtle]

am alive

[thick plover]

I mean

hear me out

[craggy oriole]

wouldnt be the first time..... siiigh...

[thick plover]

if the game doesnt wipe

[marsh cargo]

Elo droo

[thick plover]

then it doesnt matter

[timber oxide]

Hi Spar

[thick plover]

you can just play at your own pace

[marsh cargo]

Pys

[timber oxide]

...piss yourself?

[marsh cargo]

[rocky turtle]

alo sparter

[little depot]

Idk

We shall see when it comes out

So far so good

[snow tree]

I already know market is gonna be busted

[little depot]

Hopefully it doesn't have the same issues with other extraction shooters

[thick plover]

you unlock it at like level 20 apparently

I remember there being a video from some playtester

and I watched it

[little depot]

Main dev said the flea market should take 100+ hours to unlock

[timber oxide]

Yesterday I learned that I should never make my laptop enter sleep mode by closing the screen, because for some fucking reason it makes it borderline impossible to log back onto it

[little depot]

Which is

[snow tree]

Games that have it in thier core progression either gut that part or make it mandatory

[little depot]

💀

[snow tree]

Otherwise you fell off

[thick plover]

I mean

[marsh cargo]

Windows

[thick plover]

if there is areas that just have the item type you need spawn often enough

flea doesn't matter

or well it matters less

which is what I like

[timber oxide]

What happens is it says that the pin got corrupted so I have to login using microsoft account, but then it says there is no internet connection so I can't do it

[little depot]

I mean tarkov is playable without flea for example

[thick plover]

No

no it is not

you are fucking delusional

[little depot]

Hardcore wipe cough cough

[thick plover]

the most dog shit wipe