#╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion

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fervent stratus
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hans zimmer's time starts playing and getting aggresively louder

fluid monolith
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lol I have his orchestral tools open right now

thick widget
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I'm more for the music of Pans Labyrinth / The Fountain. But that's just personal preference., because I can feel the story in them.

daring wolf
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nah, only one way to find out

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happy valentines btw

fluid monolith
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Can anyone point me at a refurl refresher tutorial? Stuff seems to have fallen out of my head

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I'm looking at stuff I was doing before taking a break, and I was about to start implementing it and now it's just fuzzy nothing

fervent stratus
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wool has one i think on his alife mod page under articles

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else idk

fluid monolith
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Quality

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Thanks dude

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@fervent stratus found it

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Thanks Wool

thick widget
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My flashlight mod might also be helpful it's a bit simpler

quiet axle
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hows it looking boys

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we in pain yet

fluid monolith
fervent stratus
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@thick widget

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and anyone else here is the zip file of gamedata 1.2

quiet axle
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thank you unreal engine

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Turning 117mb into 22 gigs like magic

fervent stratus
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oh no thats not everything hha

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22gb is cus it affects 22gb of files

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that doesnt mean that there are 22gb worth of changes just that where the changes are these files are in total 22gb

crisp bolt
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Steamdb will say size changes

fluid monolith
crisp bolt
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Theres the pak size changes

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They almost put the test exe I

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Omg

fluid monolith
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OSH

crisp bolt
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Wait you all had a micro patch right???

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No shot they put it in and threw a hotfix immediately

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Omg they did

fluid monolith
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Fuck

crisp bolt
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Omg

fervent stratus
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i got a second patch

crisp bolt
fervent stratus
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10gb

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you telling me i shouldnt update?

crisp bolt
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Yes

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Check for test exe

fervent stratus
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i just booted up and zipped gamedata

crisp bolt
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They put it in

scarlet vigil
crisp bolt
fervent stratus
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i dont have it wtf

fluid monolith
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Anyone grab it?

thick widget
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someone save the good stuff for use

fervent stratus
crisp bolt
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Yeah depot will auto download the hotfix now

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Hmm

crisp bolt
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Pls

fervent stratus
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save the exe and palcore

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please bro and zip it anything, would help HUGE

fluid monolith
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^

scarlet vigil
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can't you download it back through steam console anyway?

fervent stratus
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maybe not

thick widget
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Sometimes they can clear out files

fervent stratus
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cant you just copy the 2

crisp bolt
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It looks like they're routing the patch with the hotfix

fervent stratus
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and send it? its not illegal or anything

crisp bolt
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So might not be able to

fervent stratus
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would help us out big time with the render shit we have now

fluid monolith
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Shay will grant you your deepest sexual desire if you send it

scarlet vigil
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anything else

crisp bolt
fervent stratus
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palcore and test.exe\

crisp bolt
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That should be it. Let me check

fervent stratus
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and dont update your game

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you have crazy access now

fluid monolith
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Too late for me

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But I want that text exe

fervent stratus
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that one is BIG

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it can help everyone

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has audio, weather etc

crisp bolt
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Wait

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Ye

fervent stratus
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@scarlet vigil

crisp bolt
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That should be good

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I have good news shay

fervent stratus
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if you wanna be safe just yeet it all

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except d3d12 folder

crisp bolt
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To your question

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We can

fervent stratus
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bro would be BIG

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i can see what current state alife is

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omg

fluid monolith
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They did something like this once before... and look where it lead

fervent stratus
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hype!

fluid monolith
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Yonk

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It's clean

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(No offense, can't be too careful)

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Thanks bro!

fervent stratus
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goddamn it aint booting up for me

fluid monolith
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Hmmm

fervent stratus
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does the exe run for you @scarlet vigil

scarlet vigil
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lemme delete mods and check

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no

fervent stratus
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paiiinnnn

fluid monolith
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Who's good at hex editors?

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There's gotta be a way in there

fervent stratus
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bro this shit 100% in assembly type stuff

fluid monolith
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Well, clearly i'm not going to solve it

crisp bolt
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I just got home I'll look at it

scarlet vigil
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also check S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Heart of Chornobyl\Stalker2\Saved\Logs\Stalker2.log

thick widget
fervent stratus
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Failed to get WinPixEventRuntime.dll

crisp bolt
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Ok time to compare what builds did what and see what we need

scarlet vigil
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LogPluginManager: Error: Unable to load plugin 'OnlineSubsystemEOS'. Aborting.

crisp bolt
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this was the depot that 1.2 originated on if anyone wants to help me dig

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this is the hotfix depot

thick widget
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How do I set depot?

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Before they kill it hah

fervent stratus
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look up how to junction

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if steam is on drive with low space

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ie less then 160gb

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after junction run download_depot

crisp bolt
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Go to steam://nav/console -> Open with Steam -> Put the command download_depot 1643320 1643321 238131538601280995 (This number 1643320 is the folder it will create) (This number is the games depot 1643321 (This number is the manifest ID 238131538601280995)

fervent stratus
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flic can i change the number 1643..

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download_depot 1643320 1643321 to -> download_depot 1643321 1643321

crisp bolt
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yeah you can rename 1643320 to anything

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ye

fervent stratus
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gotcha

daring wolf
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lol did they accidentally push a build with test tools in it

crisp bolt
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yes

daring wolf
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wonderful

echo stone
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huge

crisp bolt
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on the non hotfix build?

scarlet vigil
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doesn't launch just spits thing into log

crisp bolt
thick widget
daring wolf
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by the way, is the .uproject supposed to get cooked inside paks? common sense says no but I haven’t actually checked whether that’s normal before

fervent stratus
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flic

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invalid

fervent stratus
crisp bolt
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238131538601280995 that's the manifest

fervent stratus
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chat are we cooked

crisp bolt
fervent stratus
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well yeah

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thats whats giving the error

crisp bolt
fervent stratus
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just copy pasta it again

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same error

crisp bolt
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they didn't hide it or lock it

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I had this happen once before 1 sec I'll setup mine see if it works

fervent stratus
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nvm

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its due to changing app location name

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from 1643320 to 3321

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should be 1643320 else it wont work

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its 138gb btw

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download

thick widget
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download_depot 1643320 1643320 238131538601280995 like this?

crisp bolt
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ye

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no

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1643320 1643321

thick widget
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Can I set the drive?

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Or does it go where current stalker is?

crisp bolt
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you gotta make a junction for the drive you want to set

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no so it will go to where steam is downloaded

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like the app

thick widget
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lol

crisp bolt
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its stupid, I made a junction to go to my storage drive lol

fervent stratus
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if steam on drive with sub 200gb -> junction

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here is code

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mklink /J "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\content\app_1643321" "F:\app_1643321"

thick widget
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Well then I should be fine

fervent stratus
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its mine tho so change c and whatever accordingly

thick widget
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Cause the drive I have it installed on is the one with room haha

fervent stratus
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now to find out why it dont start

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since i have the pal and test

crisp bolt
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yeah as long as the steam app is on that with room drive ur good

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not the game, but the app

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downloading it now as well.

thick widget
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same

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Im wondering if we can drop the files from this into the release

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Hotfix might resolve the error but the dev files might still function

fervent stratus
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what release?

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this is the release

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the most recent

thick widget
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This is before hotfix though?

fervent stratus
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hotfix just removes this

thick widget
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hmm

fervent stratus
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if we get this running its the tools of the most recent one hopefully

fluid monolith
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Do you mean run it on the latest build?

thick widget
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I wonder if it's got a bad pointer in an ini then

fervent stratus
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crashlog is best bet

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but im going to run from depot folder first before i dive in logs

crisp bolt
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so the palcore is for sure blocking us Hmmm

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according to the data leak summery in this

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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Wiki: Zone Chronicles

29 мая в сообществе в «ВКонтакте» «Антишнапс» были опубликованы внутренние документы-руководства компании по созданию внутриигровых 3D-моделей (2 файла в формате Microsoft Office Word). Среди...

thick widget
void owl
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What's a palcore

crisp bolt
void owl
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Ahkk

thick widget
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Think it has any fallback behavior when offline?

hazy ivy
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from a 2 month old reddit thread

fervent stratus
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so

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who wants to send him a message?

frank isle
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Already did

fervent stratus
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i wonder what specific one he means

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i got like 4 myself

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which one he got

crisp bolt
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yeah I was looking for the palcore too apparently we can use the "Russian" one

thick widget
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Haha

crisp bolt
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from 2023

fervent stratus
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noo we cant

thick widget
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I was wondering if it was going to be that build

fervent stratus
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im going to try right now

crisp bolt
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if its the hacked palcore than yes we should be able to

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we're being DRM blocked rn thats all.

crisp bolt
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had some odd engagement points, but I liked the show overral.

fervent stratus
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just tried

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cant

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files from june 2023

crisp bolt
fervent stratus
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idk man it aint running

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what can i say hha

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its literally right here

crisp bolt
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check your crashlog

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maybe the key will drop in your lap

fervent stratus
thick widget
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Probably a new key

hazy ivy
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so the first guy in that thread states that he tried the 2023 palcore unsuccessfully, then that other guy gives him some new one, then the original guy says it works

crisp bolt
hazy ivy
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so if that's correct, there's ANOTHER palcore floating around somehow

crisp bolt
fervent stratus
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log file aint saying shi

crisp bolt
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and then people added to it.

fervent stratus
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tbh i should wait for clean depot version

crisp bolt
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there's a god tier palcore somewhere

fervent stratus
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we can reverse engineer it too

crisp bolt
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yeah I know

fervent stratus
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but we need assembly knowledge

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and i aint got that much

crisp bolt
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time to learn some assembly

hazy ivy
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lol brb learning assembly

crisp bolt
fervent stratus
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dies before he learns 1 line

crisp bolt
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we'll see.

hazy ivy
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hey now have some faith

crisp bolt
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but probably.

fervent stratus
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the dude that made rollercoaster tycoon was a proper lunatic

hazy ivy
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ok so what does the A stand for

fervent stratus
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agony

hazy ivy
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good start

fervent stratus
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we need the golden palcore

crisp bolt
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accumulator

fervent stratus
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the juice

crisp bolt
fervent stratus
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maybe

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hmmm

crisp bolt
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there's one floating.

fervent stratus
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when you look this up

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unable to start build error code 0x941

crisp bolt
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I'm still searching before dropping hours into learning assembly omegakekw

fervent stratus
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its an error from old stalker hint

crisp bolt
fervent stratus
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theres a link 5th from top

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and it has a magnet

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maybe that one has the golden palcore inside

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site is a secure it one yaknow

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😉

hazy ivy
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did anyone snag the one from december

fervent stratus
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tried that one too

crisp bolt
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someone says its because of AV omegakekw

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yeah I have the december one floating figured that should work

fervent stratus
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can you send the one palcore

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ive been throwing palcores around

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im kinda lost which is which

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kek

crisp bolt
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It's in ur dm still

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But one sec

fervent stratus
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ah perf all good

hazy ivy
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slide into those dms FASTER

fervent stratus
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anyone speak russion

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theres a vkontakt link i got

crisp bolt
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No but my translator does

fervent stratus
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its the euhm

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hecker

frank isle
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Sent the other bloke on reddit a message. He might still have it as well. Also if any of you are in Arkansas or are passing through, hit me up and I'll take you for a helicopter ride

fluid monolith
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OOOOOOO

fervent stratus
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never done one in my life

crisp bolt
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Same

fervent stratus
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shame i live about thousands of km away

crisp bolt
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Just fly over

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Hell fly you back

frank isle
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Where are you Shay?

fervent stratus
fluid monolith
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Would you pick me up?

fluid monolith
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You just need to cross over the atlantic

fluid monolith
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No big deal

fervent stratus
crisp bolt
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Should be easy

frank isle
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We'll I'm a dual citizen of UK and US so I'll pick one up when I'm visiting the parents

crisp bolt
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Quick dip in the water and ur here

fluid monolith
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I'll take you out for archery

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Ah, good

frank isle
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@fluid monolith now that would be epic!

fluid monolith
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I'm a limey myself

crisp bolt
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I can take you shooting, but you probably already do that.

fluid monolith
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But I live in the North

crisp bolt
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We can thermal hunt

fluid monolith
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Passed the wall

crisp bolt
frank isle
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@fluid monolith I'm about an hour south of Shrewsbury in the UK

fluid monolith
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Edinburgh

frank isle
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@crisp bolt where are you Flic?

fluid monolith
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Well, close enough

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But I can drive

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Technically...

frank isle
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@fluid monolith nice! I did the Edinburgh mile March with the Scots DG after our Afghanistan deployment in 2013

thick widget
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I’m only a rough 860 miles away by road haha

fluid monolith
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I probably saw it I was living overlooking the royal mile at the time

frank isle
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@fluid monolith it's too small of a world

fluid monolith
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Getting smaller

crisp bolt
fluid monolith
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You guys are just plum fucked

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Not that it's much better here

hazy ivy
fluid monolith
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LMAO

crisp bolt
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Not that Trump is much better either.

fluid monolith
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I don't think it matters anymore

crisp bolt
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True

frank isle
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@thick widget well I fly for work all States from TX to MN north to South and CO to GA West to East so if I'm in the area I'll swing on by

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@hazy ivy too close for comfort!

fluid monolith
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Well, if you end up north across the pond hit me up

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There's an airfield in prestwick

frank isle
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@fluid monolith damn straight!

fervent stratus
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what you fly

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pls say pavelow

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pls say pavelow

fluid monolith
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I've met people off the internet 4 times and only 1 of them was technically bad

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1 of the them was the founder of the psychonaut wiki

frank isle
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Mainly R66s at the moment. Basically the souped up turbine of a R44. Best heli to fly are UH1s, my favorite

fluid monolith
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Then it was a paid trip to Amsterdam with a few others to recruit me into some cult

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I don't remember much

hazy ivy
fluid monolith
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Oh no

hazy ivy
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🙂

frank isle
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Also guys, Billy from that reddit thread says it doesn't work. Needs a new AES key

hazy ivy
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FUCK BILLY

frank isle
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HA

thick widget
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lol

hazy ivy
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but can we have it tho

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just for safe-keeping

fluid monolith
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Well shit, who's tight with a dev?

thick widget
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I just had an exe at home that spits out the aes key?

crisp bolt
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AES key

fluid monolith
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Tell them it'll do until we get this SDK they dangle in front of us

crisp bolt
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can't we just pull the AES?

fluid monolith
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Yeah

hazy ivy
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yea tell Billy to give us it regardless

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or he's coming on the next amsterdam trip

thick widget
crisp bolt
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okay who knows where the AES is stored in the Palcore

fluid monolith
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Ask an AI

thick widget
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lol

crisp bolt
fluid monolith
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Use Groq

thick widget
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Wouldn't it just be the aes from the test exe?

fluid monolith
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Try extracting it

thick widget
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I assume the other folks probably already tried that so must be a different key

hazy ivy
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never assume

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unless your assumption is that everyone else is retarded

fluid monolith
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I wonder what would happen if I fed it to zonepaq

fluid monolith
crisp bolt
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so yeah no key in test.exe

fluid monolith
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Thanks

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Damn

crisp bolt
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I'll try another way to dump it, but the one I use uses 5 different dumper attempts.

hazy ivy
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do we know where to put it

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and could we just do the blank key

crisp bolt
hazy ivy
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i mean they have the two builds alongside each other til the moment they release them, clearly

crisp bolt
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uhm

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progress.

thick widget
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lol

hazy ivy
fluid monolith
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Weird. I'm on the latest, and I have the test build

crisp bolt
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we gotta find where to put the AES and remove the function to connect to their IP that's all I will disclose.

fluid monolith
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I didn't put it there

fervent stratus
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run it

fluid monolith
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I'm trying

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It just hangs

hazy ivy
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i swear to god its back to the amsterdam sex dungeon if you don't get this working

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i mean the amsterdam tasteful sight seeing trip

fluid monolith
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So that's where I went

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They told me some random arab looking dude brought me back to the hotel

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I was on MXE

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So I don't recall anythin

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EXCEPT IN MY NIGHTMARES

crisp bolt
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so we can dump the AES

fervent stratus
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im 106gb down with depot download

crisp bolt
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but likes Groks initial rules, you gotta find it yourself love

hazy ivy
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i better find it in my DMs

fervent stratus
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oke ez dumper

fluid monolith
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So....

crisp bolt
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now onto the hard part

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How does palcore interact with this key Hmmm

fervent stratus
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palcore just checks the key no?

crisp bolt
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so it checks the key, but it asks for the key from the server

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so we need to skip the server

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because we'll never access it

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and just take the key

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since we have the key in the exe

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we're half way there.

fluid monolith
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Hosts file?

fervent stratus
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yeah could be, its linked to exe aes, it asks the key from current test, it compares and does nothing]

crisp bolt
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yeah

fervent stratus
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and i tried no internet and it didnt do anything

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so it needs to be spoofed

fluid monolith
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hmmm

fervent stratus
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now to the hard part

crisp bolt
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yeah it needs to think it connected to the server

fervent stratus
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where this shit at in assembly

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IN ASSEMBLY

crisp bolt
crisp bolt
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I've yet to make an attempt on that, but I guess it's time.

fluid monolith
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No luck so far

fervent stratus
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social engineer the test build some influencers had hands on

hazy ivy
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yo shay you're compromised from downloading that whack build, did you learn any hacking skills

fervent stratus
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what you mean compromised

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panic

hazy ivy
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remember, you installed that build from a dodgy site and now you're a russian pretending to be shay

fervent stratus
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prompt accepted

fluid monolith
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Social Engineering. The oldest trick in the book

fervent stratus
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yes brother! very much hacking i learned

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no i actually didnt

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its ez we can find it

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we just need to be able to read assembly

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and navigate assembly storage and loads

hazy ivy
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does anybody know an adult who can help us

fervent stratus
fluid monolith
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Let's try a Mitnick approach

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Anyone live near HQ?

hazy ivy
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i'm gonna take my mums advice and ask a police officer for help because I'm lost

fervent stratus
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let me call Ievgen

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its been enough!

thick widget
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Couldn't you just take the december palcore and adjust the key in that?

hazy ivy
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i mean, someone keeps leaving test builds in the repo

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ok I really wanted to be orange but it does make chat real hard to follow

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can you guys like, let me be the modder

fluid monolith
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I wrote a whole letter

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Well, it was more like a paragraph

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Live with it!

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You know how weird it was being the first "modder" on here?

crisp bolt
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little bit of chatgpt and dnspy

fluid monolith
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And I put myself last on the list

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Funny sense of humor

hazy ivy
fluid monolith
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Ace and I went to Grok

crisp bolt
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you banana

fluid monolith
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Because we thought you were all underappreciated

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But too stuborn to ask

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Well, I won't speak for Ace

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But I did 😛

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So I wrote a list of all the cool stuff you all did and Grok came down from up high

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Anyway, I'm just glad I'm not the only orange man anymore

fluid monolith
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Shay helped too

thick widget
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I still need to generate a orange Piglet to go with Pooh

fluid monolith
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You want an orange piglet...2 secs

thick widget
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Hahah

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Just the face and toupee

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😄

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But you know image generators blocked disney stuff

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So I'd have to do it myself

fluid monolith
fervent stratus
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im eating atm but afterwards we

fluid monolith
fervent stratus
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where that palcore at boi

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time to sit down

thick widget
crisp bolt
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yeah I'm almost done setting it up, already peaking into it with dn

fervent stratus
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shame there isnt a master hacker among us that can hack into gsc servers

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not that i promote such a thing

fluid monolith
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I need to stop

fervent stratus
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but it would be cool

fluid monolith
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I'm killing myself

crisp bolt
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bro

thick widget
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So close just needs the pink body

crisp bolt
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that's a high af looking piglet

fervent stratus
# fluid monolith

about to be me in a sec when im about to try my chances at cracking the code

fluid monolith
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oh god no

fluid monolith
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I'm done

crisp bolt
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Wools pfp

hazy ivy
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it's very appreciated

crisp bolt
hazy ivy
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hahaha sorry I wandered off to make an "all upgrades for all technicians" command

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i missed it

fluid monolith
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I worst think I did was type grafted into the generator

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Who wants to see where this goes?

quiet axle
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hows it looking

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the few dedicated souls who dont mind the personal pain caused by trying to get A-life to not be dogwater filler

fervent stratus
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it looking oke now

quiet axle
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any mods we gotta ditch?

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also i've been outta the loop for a while on stalker anything new pop up?

fluid monolith
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The devs left a test exe in the latest patch then tried to patch over it

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But we got it

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Trying to run the damn thing

crisp bolt
frank isle
frank isle
crisp bolt
#

I think that's literally the same dll I sent shay

frank isle
crisp bolt
fervent stratus
#

where billy at

#

we need him here too

crisp bolt
#

idk if that last part is true

fervent stratus
#

yeah its the same as the one i got

frank isle
#

It's good ol Billy

fluid monolith
#

What's the word Billy Boy?

tidal yew
#

mnnmm yes

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I am stumped

fluid monolith
#

welcome then

tidal yew
#

Palcore got cracked in June 2023 when the dev build leaked

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Soooo it's nothing new

fervent stratus
#

yeah we tried the old one

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its the same as the one u send it dont work indeed

crisp bolt
#

yeah so AES did dump.

tidal yew
fervent stratus
#

yeah we got aes

#

according to flic

tidal yew
#

The thing is, the game has not been encrypted for like a while now

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May I see it?

fervent stratus
#

@crisp bolt

fervent stratus
#

yeah im hard stuck i think, we waiting for billy and flic atm i reckon

tidal yew
fervent stratus
#

off topic, ive seen you all over s2 reddit with knowledge, good to know you are also into this

tidal yew
#

I'm into stalker overall

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no wait frick, I set this one up for myself so bad :(

fervent stratus
#

frick? you mean flic?

#

so we stuck with the palcore atm right? im trying to navigate it but damn its a lot of chinese here

tidal yew
#

naaah you gotta download a hex editor

#

I highly recommend Imhex

thick widget
#

Flic sometimes goes afk

fervent stratus
#

oh yeah i know its just

tidal yew
#

Oh yeah guys did you get into audio files yet?

fervent stratus
#

oke so heres a question

#

do you believe there is a curtain

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that hides render of npc's defined somewhere

#

@thick widget

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can ask it better

crisp bolt
fervent stratus
#

since i guess you mined before this?

tidal yew
crisp bolt
tidal yew
#

There are 38 files that for the life of me I can't open

fervent stratus
#

i think they managed yeah released a mod for it too

#

can ask them @grave kite

thick widget
#

Where I'm not sure

crisp bolt
#

ok we have some insight i think

tidal yew
#

Congratulations you have found the export table

#

Look PalCore does not have the encryption keys, it takes them from the server, you won't find it inside of the .dll itself

thick widget
#

So we only get something if the server were to leak the key

tidal yew
#

It won’t

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Don’t even bother, it was attempted in 2023

fervent stratus
#

we already know that it contacts a server to authenticate i think flic just stumbled on that, me personally am looking to find where its mentioning the contacting server if anything like that even exists (im rookie at this specific stuff)

tidal yew
#

Now I have this suspicion that maybe the system was changed, but the dll remains the same idk

fervent stratus
#

can you perhaps not spoof the dll?

tidal yew
#

No, again, doesn‘t work

#

Also the server is internal

fervent stratus
#

so what is the conclusion you have atm?

#

about this situation and the interaction between palcore and test exe

tidal yew
#

Uhhh it appears the .dll has not changed

fervent stratus
#

so its within the exe?

tidal yew
#

Uhhhh I don’t know

#

Haven’t looked at the exe just yet

fervent stratus
#

if the previous one worked same way with palcore and the test exe but this dll hasnt changed then the answer might be in the exe

#

since that is the combo they also removed

dull peak
#

Man it's been like 6 months since I was on this server, I love that I still get a nickname ping every few months hahaha

tidal yew
#

I don’t think so

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I’ll check it tomorrow idk

crisp bolt
#

the dll def changed.

fervent stratus
#

indicative of size

#

16 to 36

crisp bolt
#

I'm close, I think they might of hard coded the AES in the dll

#

but It's like I'm reading alien at the same time kek

fervent stratus
#

well if you remove the palcore and run test no error comes uo

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up

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if you do the same for the previous one it says palcore missing

fervent stratus
#

so idk man might just be exe first

crisp bolt
#

I love how none of us are looking at the cfgs for the first time kek

#

just trying to crack the debug tool first.

void owl
#

people need to stop using old Longer Days that will break their games

fervent stratus
#

aint shit changed

void owl
#

since we do not use CoreVariables anymore

#

big news

crisp bolt
#

that is pretty huge ngl

fervent stratus
#

wtf is this reddit

void owl
#

yeah bruh everytime i see people recommending to install longer days from like nobvember

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im like bro no pls

void owl
#

fuck new reddit

void owl
tidal yew
tidal yew
#

According to steamdb

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You know what that means right :)

#

That’s right
Download the entire build again, hooraaay!

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Thankfully steam keeps everything easily accessible :)

crisp bolt
#

I already did that

tidal yew
crisp bolt
#

yep

#

we there

fervent stratus
#

was billy not on this one?

crisp bolt
#

holy fuck I'm really reading alien in this editor

fervent stratus
#

man i just want the test exe to work

crisp bolt
fervent stratus
#

i neeeed to know their changes from 1.05 to this

crisp bolt
#

so

fervent stratus
#

what they doing man

tidal yew
crisp bolt
#

the Decrypt and encrypt for AES is an infinite loop

fervent stratus
#

or like meme

#

hahaha

crisp bolt
#

so its gotta be a decoy

fervent stratus
#

the new one doesnt have decrypt

tidal yew
#

What are you even reading

crisp bolt
fervent stratus
#

both old and new have aes you talk about

tidal yew
#

Palcoreapi.dll didn’t change

crisp bolt
#

void PalCoreDecryptAES(undefined8 param_1,undefined8 param_2)

{
char cVar1;

while( true ) {
cVar1 = FUN_180002ba0(&DAT_1800066d9);
if ((cVar1 != '\0') || (DAT_180006034 == '\0')) break;
Sleep(100);
}
PalCoreDecryptAES(param_1,param_2);
return;
}

fervent stratus
#

just curious ofc

#

monkey brain sees thing go big

tidal yew
fervent stratus
#

doesnt understand why inside is small

#

mine is 14?

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the one u sent too is 14

tidal yew
#

That’s the crack

crisp bolt
#

yours is the old build

fervent stratus
#

ahhh yeahh

#

brainfart

crisp bolt
tidal yew
#

It works on 1.0.2

fervent stratus
#

you mean compared to 1.0.5

crisp bolt
#

it happens to the best of us

fervent stratus
#

jup

#

following now

#

yeah indeed no change there

crisp bolt
#

yeah so previous patch dll and this dll did not change, which makes sense cause they don't need to change that, but they did remove it Hmmm why remove it?

tidal yew
crisp bolt
#

it has to have some small change

fervent stratus
#

its the exe

#

peanut brain is sure of it

tidal yew
#

Oh the exe

fervent stratus
#

the exe changed sizes

tidal yew
#

Well uh have fun then

fervent stratus
#

shipping and release didnt

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exe grew 2-3mb

tidal yew
#

Probably because they added the a-life tab to the tool shrug

fervent stratus
tidal yew
#

I’m not joking

crisp bolt
#

they added the paint brush tool

fervent stratus
#

damn goes to show our hope for something like that doesnt it

#

ooft gsc

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but yeah who knows

tidal yew
#

You guys should love the CMs more

#

Genuinely best people

#

:)

#

Mol1t gave me clean patches for the wiki

#

Accidentally gave a pair of cut patches

fervent stratus
#

old exe has decrypt aes

#

1.0.2

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new one doesnt

tidal yew
fervent stratus
fervent stratus
tidal yew
#

Dunno

fervent stratus
#

slavic magic

tidal yew
#

Wait wait hold on

#

You disassmbled right?

fervent stratus
#

the exe?

tidal yew
#

Can you screenshot the thingy where it lacks decrypt aes?

tidal yew
fervent stratus
#

with hex u mean right?

#

since im just exploring hex tool

#

like i said rookie

tidal yew
tidal yew
fervent stratus
#

any other tool thats good for the exe?

crisp bolt
#

well

fervent stratus
#

always nice to gain new knowledge

crisp bolt
#

I might of found the real decryption technique

tidal yew
tidal yew
#

Screenshot please

fervent stratus
#

i searched for AES string

#

one exe has it other doesnt

tidal yew
#

Oh no you won’t find it lol

fervent stratus
#

not the aes

#

just mention of encrypt and decrypt

#

see what aes mentions there are

crisp bolt
tidal yew
#

We’re all stupid, remember that

fervent stratus
#

you know dependency walker?

#

it shows exe's that have dependencies of other dll's

#

the test exe doesnt mention palcore

tidal yew
tidal yew
#

No flipping way

#

I’ll investigate tomorrow

fervent stratus
#

ill check the 1.0.2 now to compare

tidal yew
#

But this would be so flipping hilarious

fervent stratus
#

jup

#

1.0.2 has palcore dependency

#

new one doesnt

#

it also explains why new one doesnt throw error if palcore isnt in folder

#

all 1.0.2 dependencies of test.exe

#

all 1.2 dependencies of test.exe

#

notice old one up top has palcore

#

new one below doesnt

crisp bolt
tidal yew
#

Hahaha waow

#

By the way have you tried messing with tbb from 1.0.2?

crisp bolt
#

I was just gonna suggest that.

fervent stratus
#

tbb? take that and place it in new one?

crisp bolt
#

yep

fervent stratus
#

i mean true all builds have a tbb

#

oke lets try

tidal yew
#

But it might not work

#

Actually no it won’t work

fervent stratus
#

whats even in there

tidal yew
#

I think ue5 bugtrap

#

But it got changed in the 1.0.2 debug version

fervent stratus
#

nothing happens

#

with 1.0.2 version

tidal yew
#

Oh wait no no

#

Sorry it was the pdb that was removed

#

Useless thing don’t bother

fervent stratus
#

indeed

tidal yew
#

I’m pretty sure since they removed aes key in 1.2 they actually moved the encryption to the file itself think

#

I’ll investigate tomorrow

void owl
#

Can someone tldr what's going on

crisp bolt
#

so we're trying to get the tool to work.

#

but we're locked behind a new AES key.

#

traditional dumping methods don't work.

void owl
#

Ah shit

crisp bolt
#

so I decompiled the palcore DRM dll

#

and was searching for it.

#

but then shay looked in the test.exe and it doesn't even look for the Palcore.dll anymore.

#

now it's time to do some tom foolery

void owl
#

GSC is next level incompetent

fervent stratus
#

yeah so old test.exe was dependant of a dll

#

new one aint

#

so its either in a new dll

#

shown above 2nd pic

#

or in the exe

#

and i think exe since exe is bigger

#

but billy before said it might be the alife tab being filled

void owl
#

Huh

#

A life tab?

#

Like in the PDA?

fervent stratus
#

no debug tool kekw

#

since the debug tool from 1.0.2 was empty

tidal yew
crisp bolt
#

I think that was an accident ngl

tidal yew
#

Anyways because there is no AES key, there is nothing for palcore to grab, therefore it is no longer needed as a dependency

crisp bolt
#

ye

#

so what's causing the exe to hang?

tidal yew
#

Need to dump the 256mb of memory it uses upon launch before exiting

crisp bolt
#

welp time to dig into the exe I guess

nocturne swift
#

Hi, u steel help for ID of bnk? or give guide for i do with myself

rain juniper
#

Expectation: finally good armor diversity trough all game or npc rank based system

#

reality:

#

Т_Т

void owl
#

Lmaooo

fervent stratus
#

look at this beauty of a combo

#

i call it the unintentionall triple whammy

#

we got my mod spawning npc's like mutants and patrols + gsc fixing npc's looting corpses + ani generating random loot and with mhm and its mods results in

#

ps dont mind bugged shadows

vivid cedar
#

Popping in just to ask a quick question: Do you guys now have the ability to increase the 100m range/bubble? Curious if 1.2 changed anything

frail root
#

I'm curious if the extant A-life extension mods still work or not

thick widget
frail root
#

well, any of them really

thick widget
#

If that’s what you’re asking about alife extended hasn’t done more than adjust some scenario timing since 1.1 released.

#

Shay’s living zone adjusted scenarios and timing. And one version allows you to customize what you want from spawn scenarios with add on paks. Another version ties scenarios to rank system in the game I believe.

frail root
#

I just saw that Shays still says it works

#

so that's something

#

that's what I was using up til now

thick widget
#

There the Alife Flic and I put together call A-Life Uh.. Found A Way which rewrote how the scenario cfg file ai spawns. They are spread in an 860 m radius. And include some rare chances for exotic mutants in the farther ranges

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Both use an engine.ini edit that I stumbled into so npcs in offline keep moving instead of pausing

#

I do need to apply the small updates they did to a couple files in A-Life Uh.. Found A Way. Just waiting to get the update downloaded

thick widget
spare lagoon
thick widget
#

I'll share all credit for memes!

spare lagoon
#

We all know you're the sharing kind, wool
Stay exactly the way you are!

thick widget
minor cedar
#

just noticed your message right now 😅

edit: ty!

strong dirge
#

did they change DifficultyPrototypes.cfg in any way?

void owl
inland karma
#

Guys any ideas on how can I make NPCs enter combat faster?
There are two aspects of this:
1, I'd like to make NPCs notice enemy faster - in terms of their 'vision meter' filling up faster
2. And then after that - there is this another weird 'combat start delay' which playes out in which they start running instead of shooting immediatelly
I played with some numbers here and there but was not able to find a properly working solutions for both issues

lean oar
#

You mean like how they run to cover first / run closer to your location

inland karma
#

Yep. I'd either like this phase to be way shorter or completely disabled. I noticed that when in the combat proper - they will sometimes still do it and its good then. However this happening at the begging of each encounter makes the whole thing too schematic.

#

I would assume that modifying these curves would do the trick for the issue#1 😉 Unfortunately we canno edit curves atm

thick widget
#

Why do you want to edit those curves?

#

Prertty sure just adjusting these would cause identification to happen faster

MaxVisibilityScore = 1000.f
MinSignificantVisibilityScore : struct.begin
[] = 150.f
[
] = 150.f
[] = 150.f
[
] = 150.f
struct.end
MinCombatSignificantVisibilityScore : struct.begin
[] = 100.f
[
] = 75.f
[] = 50.f
[
] = 25.f
struct.end
MinCombatHoldPositionSignificantVisibilityScore : struct.begin
[] = 50.f
[
] = 25.f
[] = 20.5f
[
] = 15.f
struct.end

minor cedar
#

anyways, fwiw. seems like there's a new modifier for AmmoPrototypes.cfg - CoverPiercingMod. My guess is that bullets can now be setup to penetrate different levels of materials in game...although I'm not sure if I can say that GSC knows what they're doing with this new variable, seeing as how they just slap the same value for ArmorPiercingMod into this.

this seems to affect the new CoverPiercing variable in WeaponGeneralSetupPrototypes.cfg.

thick widget
inland karma
thick widget
#

I believe you’d want to go lower with the minimum visibility scores

#

They should be the minimum to identify

#

Increasing bone scores would have a similar effect. Because they would need to see less parts of us to hit score threshold

fervent stratus
#

the incompetence of gsc is bafflin

#

kinda getting me mad ngl

#

1.2 update so good they lost 1k peak players on update day compared to day before where they didnt update

naive widget
#

are you taking into consideration how many players take over a day to download a patch and thus cannot play 🤔

minor cedar
#

also I'd give it until weekends for the player peak to rise, it's still Friday

#

oh and this is pretty funny. Seems like in 1.2 GSC still intends for the TOZ to have the dispersion model of an assault rifle - they even doubled down on making it OP by increasing NPC's accuracy now, dropping DispersionRadius from 15 to 5

#

I had thought they would adjust the TOZ's NPC stats in NPCWeaponAttributesPrototypes.cfg to compensate for this, but no it's still the exact same as 1.1.3.

GSC what the fuck

fervent stratus
#

ive messaged molit about a test group ive heard off

#

forwarded pretty much the modding community as a better group to ask for testers then freaking john doe, pumping 10minute videos for utube for adsense

#

Molits response:
"Hello, I think you will be a great candidate for the future Testing) I will keep you in my draft list for sureRad_Sign_Heart"

#

fingers crossed they reach out to the people that freak on the games cfg and backend instead of the 10min video makers for clicks

median quest
#

Probably gonna get lost somewhere in the sauce and they wont listen to their cm

fervent stratus
#

i have faith, ive been in contact with molit and exchanged messages before all way back before release

#

and zoneslug said just message molit

#

its how he got in

#

i just want working alife man what i gotta do to get there

tidal yew
#

Don't get your hopes up, and honestly, don't expect any magical working alife

fervent stratus
#

real

tidal yew
#

Most of the cool crap is in internal testing builds

#

Dev builds excuse me

fervent stratus
#

yeah development

#

we would get the test

tidal yew
#

Did you know that internal dev builds have hardware ray tracing and so on

fervent stratus
#

i did not tbh

tidal yew
#

The lighting is so much better

fervent stratus
#

only internal i got hands on euhm migh have hands on is 2023

tidal yew
#

You can see that in the artist portfolios

tidal yew
fervent stratus
#

bro 2023 looks so good

#

im ngl

tidal yew
#

guess why it didn't have shimmering problems

#

2023 had better foliage

fervent stratus
#

like the foliage and stuff

#

yeah

#

i know

#

its insane

#

like the ground texture is ass sure

tidal yew
#

Too bad you can't port dev build stuff, GSC doesn't like that

fervent stratus
#

but damn the foliage

tidal yew
#

GSC is probably just holding out because it will get added in future updates

fervent stratus
#

still mad at gsc tho

#

aint no gsc soyboy

#

also mad at myself i fell for the early footage trap kek

#

saw those pre rendered videos "oh myyy ue5 so goood look at that shiii" gets release version: "vaseline smear deluxe on my screen"

tidal yew
#

To be honest, the dev build seemed super juicy and we got our hopes up so bad because we expected everything in the dev build to be finished after 1.5 years of development (maybe some stuff prepped for DLC)

Buuuut, yeaaa, that didn't really work out

fervent stratus
#

how you got past the encryption?

#

some stuff are mad encrypted

tidal yew
#

I am genuinely coping by trying to come up with some big development problem

tidal yew
fervent stratus
#

the files in the build of 2023 some are encrypted

#

some arent

tidal yew
fervent stratus
#

one of us believes massive hack led to a lot more then they reveal

#

i personally believe that too tbh

#

and i also believe that the fire few months after in prague affected more then a floor that was insignificant

#

between this and 1.5y ago a loooooooooot is gone

minor cedar
tidal yew
#

Also cutscenes are pre-rendered in the engine with like all the crap cranked to max

EVEN THOUGH, get this, only the intro cutscene was supposed to be pre-rendered
Every other pre-rendered cutscene has all used assets + sounds in the files. Only the intro cutscene has everything baked into the bink 2 video

tidal yew
#

That's why so many of us are begging for some dev builds

#

Not like post-release dev builds, but like pre-release

fervent stratus
#

i can ss one right now kazz gimme a sec

#

the forest in development build in 2023

#

chefs kiss

#

first time i saw it i was like wait wtf

#

this look good

#

i even looked to see if it wasnt ue4 kekw

minor cedar
tidal yew
#

1.2 no longer has any AES keys

fervent stratus
#

the one now is uncracked

#

send it to empress

#

anyone got a warez group contact?

minor cedar
#

nope not me, sorry

fervent stratus
#

here kazz

#

its still shit compressed

#

but you get the idea

minor cedar
#

man, this is promising for sure - trailer material almost

#

would definitely fry my GPU though kekw

tidal yew
#

So apparently the debug executable crashes because:

LogCore: Engine exit requested (reason: EngineExit() was called)
LogExit: Preparing to exit.```
#

I don't understand

fervent stratus
#

let me ask my translator

tidal yew
#

FUCKING HELL

#

Turns out 1.2 debug tools straight up can't load because there's a missing engine plugin

#

@fervent stratus @crisp bolt Yea we gonna need to figure out how to add a plugin :)

#

Or maybe it won't work at all

fervent stratus
#

Error: At least one required implicit or forwarded dependency was not found.
Error: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing export function in an implicitly dependent module.
Warning: At least one delay-load dependency module was not found.
Warning: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing export function in a delay-load dependent module.

void owl
#

make sure to upvote this on reddit please, since this will make the older Longer Days mod not necessary and will make it safe for everyone to use and not have comp issues