╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion

[half willow]

Yeah, If I don't give it a new one, the gun just ends up using the default ammo

[lusty sail]

Ah understood

[spring idol]

actually sucking down so much copium that the SDK is decent

the only thing that will save this game

[half willow]

Theoretically, can't I just add a line to whatever this is, and load it with UE4SS?

[lusty sail]

I don't know if you can add something to enum, it's like constants that already premade and can't be added in runtime

[summer tartan]

do you think we'll be able to do anything about input lag?

[lusty sail]

But if theoretically yes, then mod will be addicted to ue4ss

[half willow]

As long as it works

that doesn't really matter to me

[lusty sail]

I'm not much a ue4ss professional 😄 so I just use it for readonly

Did u played around with other properties in weapon file config that somehow can change ammo type?

excluding EAmmoCaliber

[half willow]

There aren't really any other ones to change

   AmmoCaliber = EAmmoCaliber::A300B
   AmmoTypeProjectiles : struct.begin
      [0] : struct.begin
         AmmoType = EAmmoType::Default
         ProjectilePrototypeSID = P300B
      struct.end
      [1] : struct.begin
         AmmoType = EAmmoType::ArmorPiercing
         ProjectilePrototypeSID = P300B
      struct.end
      [2] : struct.begin
         AmmoType = EAmmoType::Supersonic
         ProjectilePrototypeSID = P300B
      struct.end
      [3] : struct.begin
         AmmoType = EAmmoType::Expanding
         ProjectilePrototypeSID = P300B
      struct.end
   struct.end```

[lusty sail]

Did you tried:

AmmoCaliber = EAmmoCaliber::A556

and maybe leave as is:

ProjectilePrototypeSID = P300B

[half willow]

yeah i did

[lusty sail]

Nothin?

[half willow]

it just changes it to 5.56

[lusty sail]

Damn

[half willow]

The worst thing is, everything works

but that damn localization

[lusty sail]

It's because your EAmmoCaliber isn't exist as Enum value in engine, so it's always none if doesn't exist. Devs seems didn't localize none lang key

[half willow]

Yeah i get that

But there isn't any way to work around it, so guess now I'm stuck with trying UE4SS

[summer tartan]

so, there are some sound mods now... as of this week

[lusty sail]

I will try now and if I will add new Enum - I will send a result

So yeah it's prebuilt in engine in cpp script

Need to understand how to add new value to it with ue4ss

[spring idol]

why dont you just make a new enum

i assume if its compiled then its static

[lusty sail]

@half willow Here you are 😄
I coded in lua last time like 10 years ago when tried to mod stalker trilogy lol 😄

[half willow]

holy shit

[lusty sail]

It loads calibers when game loads in main menu

[half willow]

and it actually works?

[lusty sail]

If ue4ss installed and loaded my mod - yes

Enum is edited

[half willow]

you wanna hop on voice and show me how?

[half willow]

ait I added u

[glossy berry]

I played with mutant loot, itemization, faction patch, but yesterday it was ok, I completed X3 lab and go to Yaniv, today continue and get crash when walking in this location or open inventory

Sell all items from mods, wait 24 hours, they not showing in traders and I remove mod files. Open inventory in safe zone, all is ok, but then go to to the street and after 10-20min get crash in inventory))

Yesterday playing 6 hours on 2 locations, get all loot and no errors

Any ideas?

Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000000000000060

Stalker2_Win64_Shipping
kernel32
ntdll

[sinful cypress]

Some had this error with their inventory too when hovering over ammo etc.
Do you use an ammo mod?

[glossy berry]

Only this

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/139

But I use it about 50+ hours

[lusty sail]

Yo, done!
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/876

Maybe some modmakers will do more stuff with that 🙂

[half willow]

That’s sooooo BIIIG

[half willow]

@lusty sail

[lusty sail]

That’s dope 🔥
Until SDK will release, we now can create new ammo types with UE4SS

Not only ammo calibers, but all items or effects types etc!

[weak apex]

I'm trying to make shotgun shells fire more pellets for funsies, is fraction count not what controls that in AmmoPrototypes?

[amber halo]

How you get this enum?

Och, just read, awesome!

[amber halo]

@lusty sail @half willow is there some tut how to work with lua scripts with s2hoc ? Better is to say, how do you extract enums lua file? 😄

[crude basin]

Anyone know which cfg contains params and variables for player vaulting and fall damage? Currently trying to edit the vaulting params in ObjPrototypes.cfg but I think the ones in there are for NPC only as they are under that function, there is a Player : struct.begin {refkey=[0]} later on with stamina and vitals variables but no vaulting that I can see.

I do have a base knowledge of C# and Unity from some community college courses I took a few years ago, so I have a basic knowledge of scripts, functions, parameters and variables but this is my first time working with UE4 scripts so some of the naming conventions are lost on me.

[amber halo]

As i see, now we can work with lua scripts, nice, the question is how to extract existing scripts, and then just meshes needed, and modding can start ;D

[amber halo]

Sorry, i can't find it 😭

Same as i can't find WeaponSettingsPrototypes for DLC weapons. Probably not exist 😭

[lusty sail]

UE4SS can help

https://docs.ue4ss.com/guides/creating-a-lua-mod.html

[amber halo]

Yeah, but how you extract enum?

[lusty sail]

Firstly make dumps of all type, headers etc and then open that files, read them, try to write lua mod, make ton of errors and try again and again

[lusty sail]

Like first of all I found it with live view in debug ue4ss tool

Then made dumps in same debug tool and then search inside these dump lua types files

As I remember, all lua types are will be dumped into UE4SS's Mods/shared/types folder

[crude basin]

The DLC guns reference the base weapon for stats and just change the mesh and upgrades/attachments. So if you want to change the range, dmg, etc. you have to change the weapon it's based off of.

This is pulled from UltimateWeaponPrototypes.cfg. You can change price and attachments here. Or you can change the ref id to have it reference a different base weapon for stats.

[amber halo]

Or try to extend based on the GeneralWeaponSetup property.

[amber halo]

Yeah, nice thanks. Did you have issue with white screen of debug tools?

[lusty sail]

No

[amber halo]

Just install it to root of game and all works fine ? (developer edition)

[raven trail]

change it to dx11 just fixed that issue my self

[lusty sail]

Make sure that dwmapi.dll near binaries

[amber halo]

yeah

[amber halo]

can't find how to change

[raven trail]

UE4SS-settings config

[amber halo]

It helps, ty.

[raven trail]

line 98

[amber halo]

Already did it 😉 Ty 🙂

The question is, is the way to add new meshes with this tool? 🙂

[weak apex]

Anyone know how to change pellet count and how to add shotgun effect to weps or ammo to make them fire as a shotty round would?

[amber halo]

Check Ammoprototype

[amber halo]

But about effects i think that you cant add new one. Only use existing.

[weak apex]

I tried editing the 'fraction count' in that cfg, seems to not work. I feel like projectile itself needs editing.

[amber halo]

I this case i can't help for now 😦

[weak apex]

ChangeWeaponPatternShotgunEffect and something about AddAmmoTypeEffect are effect SIDs, not sure if they are pellet related or not, or how to add them to guns. Blueprints maybe, IDK

[amber halo]

Probably. But as far as i know there are now ways to include it to game now...

[crude basin]

Anyone know which cfg to skip splash screens on startup? and also shader pre-load? very annoying when I'm relaunching game every five minutes to test new parameters for things.

[merry mountain]

Disable Shader Warmup
Engine.ini
[SystemSettings]
r.PSOWarmup.WarmupMaterials=0

Game.ini
[/Script/MoviePlayer.MoviePlayerSettings]
bMoviesAreSkippable=True
StartupMovies=

Stalker2\Saved\Config\Windows

you cant skip the epilepsi warning
But this gets you to the main menu in a few seconds after that warning, depending on system etc

[crude basin]

Ah thanks. Didn't realize it was in the ini files. Copy

[limber rose]

hello modders, do you know how to add a specific gun (monliyh ar SID) to a specific trader?
I cant find a trader cfg, or maybe in a generator IDK

[crude basin]

TradePrototypes.cfg

[crude basin]

You can change a lot in there. From how much money they have to which item generator they use. So you'll have to change you trader's item generator to one that includes your weapon or add the weapon to one of the generators and change your trader to reference your "customized" one.

[limber rose]

ok I see I ll add it to allTraderItemGenerator. I modifyed a Monolith Ar, with new default attachments but I presume I need to buy a new one, changes probably dont apply in already owned one

[crude basin]

@limber rose AFAIK that should work

[limber rose]

If you know in which file I found traderGenerator I ll appreciate that 🙂

[crude basin]

My guess is somewhere in here

@limber rose

[limber rose]

I cant find the AllTraderItemGenerator in DynamicItemGenerator

[crude basin]

That is the end of my knowledge lol. I haven't messed with that yet. Might be easier to just add the weapon to your inventory in the game using the console commands

[limber rose]

ok I found it thx vs code for serach text in whole stalker 2 files XD

Its ItemGeneratorPrototypes.cfg

Thx again man for your help 🙂

[crude basin]

Make sure to give it a spawn chance of 1.0 so it is sure to spawn in their inv and you'll still probably have to sleep in game once or twice to refresh

[tidal yew]

im trying to make cinnamon heal over time for a little bit, like 2 hp over the course of 5minutes or so. I tried copying what the medkit does, since im using MHM consumables and the medkits take 8 seconds to heal with it. What am i missing? i feel like this should be super easy but i cant make it work 😭

i do have it added in the consumablePrototypes.cfg, the healing is working, i am healing 2hp, but not over the course of 600 seconds. I have tried putting 100 on the valueMin/Max but it then heals the entire hp in one go, not over time

[crude basin]

Hey so the skip for shaders works flawlessly but I put those 3 lines into Game.ini to skip the splash screens and no dice. My game.ini was blank? Am I missing syntax somewhere?

This is what my Game.ini looks like

[crude basin]

I would try a lower duration for testing. Also, maybe not use medkits for your base and try looking at the healing on food items instead. Cross-reference and you might find something you missed.

[ripe flame]

There's more to this. Use safe version https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/107?tab=description

[crude basin]

Thank you I was using that but didn't want the chance of it conflicting with my home-cooked mods. But now that I know it's an ini file and not a cfg that shouldn't be an issue.

[merry mountain]

it does not auto skip, you need to hit any key on the keyboard

[tidal yew]

i tried everything and nothing worked. I edited the food to recover health(cause MHM removes it) and it worked on the food... im wondering if the DegenBleeding from cinnamon has to do with it. I dont understand why this would conflict with healing?

so the degen bleeding lowers the bleed amount by 15 points(per second?) for 180 seconds VS the medkit which reduces the bleeding by a fixed amount correct?

[crude basin]

AFAIK yes but I am out of my depth at this point. Just started modding this game a few days ago. Healing and/or buff-over-time effects I have not messed with. Was just trying to offer how I would approach from a troubleshooting perspective.

[tidal yew]

oh ofc i appreciate the help still, i was able to "debug" it through the food tho

i feel like cinnamon is super underutilized specially later in the game where you barely bleed, so i wanted to make it more viable to use, instead of never using it and just popping a bandage

making it a HoT would make it interesting to use at the start of the fight or when you wanna top off and leave bandages to remove bleeding or smth along the lines

[crude basin]

You could try uninstalling MHM and editing the vanilla cinnamon and see if you have any luck with that. Comparing results with MHM installed/not installed could provide insight.

[tidal yew]

thats true

i think ill just make cinnamon heal over time and make bandages remove bleeding for 30 seconds or so, to work kinda like cinnamon but way lower duration, so theres still a reason to use it

my guess is barkeeper quests, like get an artifact, kill mutants, etc.

[tidal yew]

i got it to work by doing something really stupid

i cant believe i spent 2 hours trying to make this work and the solution was just replace the effect that i wanted on top of the degenBleed SID

for some reason i couldnt make cinnamon heal over time by adding a new effect, i had to replace the degenbleed. I even tried commenting the whole CinnamonDegenBleeding structure but it wouldnt heal over time, it would heal but not over time

[crude basin]

Probably something hard-baked with the variables where one item can only provide a single 'over time' effect. There's probably one variable that tracks the time-length and it's baked in instead of having a scalable system where it generates a time-tracking variable for each effect on an item.

[tidal yew]

thats very possible, although i did try setting the time of 180.f to the healing effect and it still wouldnt heal over time

i just made cinnamon heal 100% of hp over 60 seconds and bandages reduce the bleeding by 15 points over 30 seconds. Feels pretty good for now, might tweak it later if i feel cinnamon too op

[weak apex]

Got shotguns slugs and darts to fire in pellet spread, but default 12g doesn't spawn more than 12 pellets no matter what I put fraction count at

[crude basin]

Can I ask why you want more than 12 pellets?

[weak apex]

Funsies. Mostly Experimenting out of boredom.

[weak apex]

Also cuz I want to increase pellet count on the underbarrel shotty, feels underwhelming.

[crude basin]

That's because it has lowest damage of all shotguns. Tied with Daiga and SPSA. Just bump up the base damage from 140 to 160 or 180 to be in line with M680 or RAM-2.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L6jBHJtw8AZrJZmOiFekiS2YVudHS3rQVGQN-oOaNMk/edit?gid=2000689774#gid=2000689774

[weak apex]

Ahh, OK. Just confused as to why I can increase the fraction count of shotgun's slugs and darts, but not the default 12g shell.

[crude basin]

Yeah AFAIK pellet count is just going to divide that 140 base damage over more pellets, with a maximum of 12 pellets. If you want more damage have to increase base damage, which is then divided by pellet count.

[weak apex]

I mean, I put fraction to 16 on 12g, but still shoots 12. Put fraction on darts to 6, shoots 6 in shotty pattern. Is weird.

[weak apex]

Yea, I know. I want to see a bunch of pellets tho, lol

[crude basin]

Oh gotcha. Nvm me then. I'll just keep minding my own business.

[weak apex]

haha

[crude basin]

Could change it to fire 2-3 shells with each trigger pull and accomplish a similar effect?

And increase mag size to compensate?

[weak apex]

not sure how to do that
Tried using addbullet effect on artifacts to get effect but it just took more bullets without changing actual count/dmg

messing around with other effects on artifacts that def should not be on artifacts, create some wacky crap

[crude basin]

Have you tried poking around in WeaponGeneralSetupPrototypes.cfg? That's where all the weapon templates are defined. Lots and lots of different parameters in there. In theory, let's say the 'shotgun template' doesn't offer a variable or parameter you want but 'smg template' does... you can edit 'smg template' then change your shotgun off choice in PlayerWeaponSettingsPrototypes.cfg to reference the 'sgm template' instead of the default shotgun. Idk I'm just spitballing at this point.

So, in theory, you could give burst-fire to a shotgun, then make the burst count 3 and the fire interval 0 so it would essentially fire all 3 round sinstantly then either adjust mag size or adjust ammo consumed from mag to be 0.33 instead of 1.

Between those two cfg's I'm sure there's a roundabout way to do it.

@weak apex lmk if you have any success. I would be interested in seeing how you do it and creating a custom gun for myself.

[drifting tapir]

You need to set charges to 60 or 180.
Otherwise it will restore health quikcly despite 60s duration. Charges are procs

[drifting tapir]

Dont think this is true.

Vanilla effects use effects with different duration lengths as well (vodka).

[crude basin]

That makes a lot of sense. Didn't know charges = procs

[drifting tapir]

All effects can have durations and can be 'over time' effects.

Theres also the "degenX" effecttype, which is what it is used for vanilla over time effects.

Degen effects restore or reduce a vital by the effect value/second.

Cinnamon uses "degenbleeding" with a value of 10, so it reduces 10 bleed/s

[weak apex]

Giving up on buckshot for now, no edits are changing it. I just leave flechette rounds at 6 split per shot.

[drifting tapir]

Try setting valuemin and valuemax to 600, and charges to 600 in your new effect. This should work on top of the origibal vinca effect

However, you cant display 2 durations in the ui. The UI only takes the duration display from one "ValueAndTime" effect display

[tidal yew]

still doesnt work with the regular vinca effect

[drifting tapir]

Interesting. Does it restore all at once?

[tidal yew]

yup

[drifting tapir]

What does your cinnamon struct look like?

[tidal yew]

im using modular hard mode's consumable effects, so it'll be a little different then vanilla

[drifting tapir]

Effect prototype sid numbers are wrong

But im not sure the order matters

[tidal yew]

i tried copying and pasting the healing from the medkit, which is 40hp over 10 seconds and still wouldnt work

it only worked after i replaced the vinca degen bleeding with the healing

UI shows it properly, but doesnt work

[drifting tapir]

Imteresting 🤔

I wonder if it is specific to degen bleeding and healing being together.

[tidal yew]

It's not, cause I put the degen bleeding effect on the bandage, where I also edited for it to heal 5 hp and it works there. Although the 5 hp is instant, there's no delay on it

it might not be possible to have two effects with a duration on the same item

maybe theres a reason why healing and other buffs have a parameter for "EDuplicateResolveType"

[tidal yew]

I'll have to test but I'm pretty sure it's possible to have the regen from one item with the degen bleed from another, I guess it's just not possible together 🤔

[drifting tapir]

🤔 what happens if you put keepnew duplicate resolve type on the new dot healing effect

Default resolvetype is keepall.

Maybe the healovertime to be keepnew to work properly when vinca effect is also keepnew

[crude basin]

This is what I was speculating at earlier.

[fervent talon]

👍🔥

[dense saffron]

Thwre is, if you delete your entire stalker folder in the sppdata local

[summer tartan]

need a mod to triple FPS

[vague knoll]

anyone know a console command to force a quest to get active? or restart the quest? warlock doesnt give me task anymore (there is no quest in my quest log, i know about that bug already, this one is new)

[raw zealot]

Day 1928716, Still no official A life?

[nimble heron]

do you actually believe in a-life?

[summer silo]

Patience

1.0.4 is going to be the biggest patches cooked so far it seems

Watch me being completely wrong

[thick sinew]

XDespawnNPCsAtRadius Radius

anyone know how to use this command properly?

wanna try to use it for zalissya bug

[half willow]

the game has not a life

[summer tartan]

how many main quests are broken at the moment?

[desert valve]

none as far as i know

at least not in my playtrough

[high rain]

@frank summit https://joric.github.io/stalker/ 60000+ markers

[summer tartan]

where's the legend where i can enable/disable stuff

toggle

[high rain]

later

just use search

[summer tartan]

just stating aloud what the first impression of the user experience is

[frank summit]

that's a lot of pins!

[high rain]

i did plenty of maps so I can do UX but not today

[frank summit]

not sure what these would be in-game, will have a look later

[high rain]

there are exactly 60582 pins that's why it's slow as shit on the first load and on filtering

[summer tartan]

Pee

[high rain]

yea pee is good

there is a lot of pee points

i did the actual filtering in like 5 minutes so I'll look for making it faster. for now it just adds/removes 60k markers each time

[high rain]

I actually found what those triggers do. They are referred in other CFG files that don't have marker coordinates. Like, events. E.g. a trigger volume on the door may run the quest but I didn't add this info just yet.

Really tired from scanning 130k cfg files have to do proper indexing.

[summer tartan]

were you able to find out if all your info is in the config files? or you're missing any info

[devout pond]

Is there anyone who tried to extract audio files from the files in a mp3 or wav format?

[high rain]

well it's there I think. The big breakthrough is to merge the files into a 400Mb one and search there. It's much faster than scanning hundreds thousands of files. Found trigger references but Still can't find personal stash but I guess they are connected through SID. And those containers are empty, gotta add references to containers as well.

[summer tartan]

400mb is small enough to fit in memory

I'd just be reading the files once and storing as some kind of object

[high rain]

i'm thinking of something like xEdit to show all references in a tab but it's a lot of work

[drifting tapir]

just caught up - leksii's ue4ss tool for ammo display is sweet 👍

[warped gull]

🤯

[ripe flame]

For my fellow Sublime Text users https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1318183107119284264

[warped gull]

I changed x2 to colim, but the aiming vision is not in the center of the screen. Anyone know how shold i fix this

[frank summit]

finally got around to making a reddit post myself, 'tis a very mappy monday 😎 https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1hfhkx9/new_interactive_map_for_stalker_2/?sort=new

[ripe flame]

Can you post direct link to the map? Reddit is acting weird for me

[frank summit]

sure thing - https://www.gamerguides.com/stalker-2-heart-of-chornobyl/maps/the-zone-map

[vague knoll]

whats the best mutant spawn Alife out there? i want more danger on the road

[hot oar]

use xstartquest

[hot oar]

you need to find quest ID from a dump on nexus though

[vague knoll]

ty ill test it out

[vague knoll]

nah nothing worked ...

i managed to add the task but

i cant turn it in

XDKFinishQuest SID bWin

what is bWin?

[winged hemlock]

In patch 1.0.4

[summer tartan]

how are blueprints stored in the game data?

[spring idol]

magic

[summer tartan]

wtf

[spring idol]

well wdym the games blueprints or your blueprints?

they are baked into normal c++ when you build the game afaik

[summer tartan]

does that mean they're in the game's executable?

[formal depot]

any further progress on the running headbob? I really want to play this game but I get a headache within 15 min because of this

[summer tartan]

same, but i was told certain things are hard-coded

[merry mountain]

boolean, true / false, probably if you finshed the quest successfully or failed it

[summer tartan]

https://rentry.org/TravesS2moddingBible#extracting-assets-from-unreal-engine-with-fmodel-and-what-you-need

I'm now using this guide

[vague knoll]

ty

[covert radish]

Is it possible to change mutant aggresion levels?

Like set the chance for them to attack you

I wanted to make fleshes not always aggresive

[summer tartan]

good question

one guy was removing the jump attack

Does anyone know how to find audio files in the game using Fmodel? I'm looking at it now and I can't find the Viper firing sounds

[half willow]

@lusty sail all finished up, thanks again for your work on the enums!!!
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/891

[lusty sail]

Yooo, glad that all works 😍🔥

[little sluice]

This is sick, and I'm still working on the skin for it (sorry work got in the way), but can it use unique textures like the Monolith DLC guns? Or unique magazine skins?

[half willow]

Ive not fully figured that one out yet , so no need to rush ;p

[proven spoke]

Hey!

Is it possible to add something to the engine.ini to change the damage I do to NPCs?
like some value so that I only do 50% damage instead of 100%?

[crude basin]

You can change the base damage multiplier for yourself, NPCs and mutants, as well as put in difficulty specific overrides by editing DifficultyPrototypes.cfg and packing it into a .pak mod. I made a custom one for myself to balance the game better. Made the combat more lethal (both ways) and made the economy a little more forgiving by increasing durability and reducing upgrade and repair costs.

Combined with the vaulting and stamina params I changed, both combat and exploration are much more fast-paced and lethal requiring tactical awareness and I spend way less time grinding coupons for upgrades and repairs.

[proven spoke]

do I have to do that in a cfg? I dont know how to do that and can only really do things in the engine.ini right now

[crude basin]

Let me know what all you want changed vs. vanilla and I can drop a mod for you in here in a .zip file. Only takes two minutes.

[proven spoke]

damn youre to nice bro

Im gonna have to learn how to do it

[summer tartan]

it's easy

[crude basin]

If you want to learn, go the pinned messages at the top right and check out the quick start guide from Grok.

[summer tartan]

i need more pinned messages to figure out how to do basic stuff because i'm retarded

i'm trying to change audio files for the game but i can't figure it out

there's billions of IDs

[knotty sage]

Hi all. Jumped into the Discord just to leave a mod idea. Seems that starting E07_MQ01 "Just Like the Good Old Days" removes Sledgehammer the quest giver of The Sound of Music and Quiet the quest giver of A Light in the End of the Tunnel. Would be nice to have a mod that restores these two quests.

[high rain]

Did you open FModel even once? Blueprints are in the resources. They are .uassets. Stalker 2 barely has any gameplay info in them though it uses cfg plugin to set blueprint properties and keeps almost everything in .cfg not in .uasset.

CFG files refer to blueprints though, almost each CFG starts from a comment that refers to a BP* item

To extract .cfg simply use export binary data in context menu or you can use unrealpak or repak, whatever

[high rain]

some info on how to read resources https://github.com/joric/maps/wiki/Stalker-2

[crude basin]

The error reporting on game launch is very specific. Very convenient lol.

[ripe flame]

Descriptive Consumables is released: https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1318494669939675220
Looks great with Descriptive Ammo Boxes https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1312170914913194004

[wise pecan]

It would be cool to enable weapon cleaning/maintenance to increase temporary durability and/or long-term repair cost decrease. Is something like this possible without official mod tooling?

[summer tartan]

I opened it plenty of times. it crashes a lot

[summer tartan]

Need more modding resources here so we aren't dependent on asking individual questions

[summer tartan]

my prayers been answered! lol https://youtu.be/UHBBzHSnpwA?si=addOspF3FqGfEzfi

[summer silo]

I was just about to post it

[neat vigil]

wow i was gone for like a week and this game has a shit ton of already very high quality mods

i wanna throw my hat into the ring and add in some new ammo types - here's hoping i can turn this game into a giant weapons museum like i always wanted

[lusty sail]

Don’t forget to inject new calibers enums into game with my mod for ue4ss if you want working translations for new calibers

[neat vigil]

i'll be making all my mods with as minimal enum and other conflicts as possible so

[lusty sail]

Then you will be stucked like @half willow

#╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion message

[neat vigil]

had a little bit of experience on H3VR and unity - just a little lost since Unreal is not an engine i worked with before much

as silly as it sounds i downloaded Zentools from the github but when i click its exe it spawns a cmd and closes which i doubt is how it's supposed to operate - what's the next step once I download the actual program? Do i put it in its own folder?

i'll be asking a lot of questions as i navigate the many programs lol

[half willow]

ngl chief

i have not used zentools

at all

[neat vigil]

well i would like to know how to add in new items into STALKER so if there's like a tried and true path to do so i would appreciate it

specifically ammo

[neat vigil]

actually you're the guy who made the .300 - i would love to learn off of you

mainly just to help me navigate the stuff i need to download, install and set up to be able to take it from there

[half willow]

easiest way to learn is to download my mod and check out the files

just like reverse engineering

Get it working first and don't worry about custom textures or localization

and after you get it working, you can worry about polishing it out later

you can also check it out on my github
https://github.com/herbatka?tab=repositories

[neat vigil]

Well alright - when it comes to textures and models that's a different ballgame but i can definitely get the datatables and stuff to work

[half willow]

Yeah, I don't know if anyone has already figured out porting models

That's why my gun is a variant of the 416 and not the HK437

[neat vigil]

Its most likely ill just duplicate the USP and call it the SW40 until i am able to port a .40 SW model

[half willow]

Don't have to dupe it, if all you're after for now is the ammo, you can make a conversion kit upgrade for it.

[neat vigil]

I intend at somepoint to have very unique calibers like 7mm Arisaka or 7.63 Borchardt

Just because gun museum moment

I chose the ammo first since that is the most achievable

For my current skillset

[half willow]

Yeah I get ya, if you need any help, you can send me a dm, and I'll try to answer 🙂

[neat vigil]

Thank you homie i will take you up on that tomorrow mornin

[velvet mist]

is this normal?

[radiant ravine]

Anyone knows where the ammo meshes are located? Not the textures

[half willow]

check pakchunk16 utoc

[lusty sail]

Drag&Drop method of applying icon to the item. I just simplify path to the icon for the user friendly editing, but after saving to cfg it converts back to Texture2D'Game/GameLite/...'

Still need to work on it to make it work properly for early testing, there are many things that can broke tool 😄

[half willow]

oh thats sick

[ripe flame]

Has anyone figured out how to manipulate parts of UI elements, like it was done here? Mod is not unpackable, author said he is very busy and disappeared 🙂
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/515

[lusty sail]

Author keep it in the secret I guess, dunno why, he's nothing lost if tell us the secret...

I've tried to unpack and ask him, but nothing

I wish there some tool that can unpack or decode ReZen tool paks

[ripe flame]

Yeah, I have a feeling he is ghosting me.

[ripe flame]

I do believe it's this file: Stalker2\Content\GameLite\FPS_Game\UIRemaster\Inventory\W_LootGrid.json

Yet when I import it in UE, what should I chose? I guess it's a DataTable, but what Row Type?

[lusty sail]

It's a widget

Not a data table

Class is WidgetTree

DataTable is just like Excel rows and columns with data

[ripe flame]

So how to properly import it in UE, if I even need to do it?

[lusty sail]

Recreate whole widget structure...

Its pain in the ass

[ripe flame]

Oh god

[lusty sail]

It's like mimicking paths, structure and names of classes

And somehow edit in different blueprint that will be loaded at the start of the game

I've tried before to do it, to simply hide logo in the main menu or add new label to the screen, but unfortunately it was failed, nothing works

[rain juniper]

Hi guys. In which order game loads paks from ~mods folder? Created compatible version of mod with another mod, where conflict only in one file. And file always loads from original mod 😦 Not depending on name (tried different variations of z prefix). But merged or loaded single all works fine.

[ripe flame]

Alphabetical. How you see them in folder (if sorted by name), that's the load order

[rain juniper]

zz_FactionsPatch_P.pak
zzzzzz_BNPS_FactionPatches_Compatibility.pak

loads file from FactionsPatch

zz_FactionsPatch_P.pak
z_BNPS_FactionPatches_Compatibility.pak

loads file from FactionsPatch☠️

[ripe flame]

Add "_P" at the end

[rain juniper]

game parses postfix P? Or what?

went to test..

OH, now I see, all mods that I have has _P on the end.

What this means?

And it's works, thanks!

[lusty sail]

Priority

[sinful cypress]

Thats my LO, sorted by Vortex.
"Alive" loads first and "7.62x54" last

[ripe flame]

As far as I know, using something other than “z” in front of mod name can cause mods loading even before vanilla, which leads to problems. Also, I have no idea how this structure with separate folders actually works.
For more control, dump pak files right into ~mods folder

[sinful cypress]

Vortex loads in this order, I tested it.
And it´s also written there:

[ripe flame]

Though I can be wrong, sure

Maybe Vortex does something behind the scenes

God I want proper and fully working MO 2 for Stalker 2 🙂

[sinful cypress]

But yeah, _p loads last

*Correct way to adjust your mod’s load order is to add _{priorityNumber}_P to the end of the pak file name, before “.pak”, mod with highest priorityNumber will be loaded last. This takes priority over the number of z characters.

Example: z_mod1_100_P.pak will load after zzz_mod2_99_P.pak and will override duplicate content.*

[ripe flame]

Two priorities, one with higher priority over another. Not confusing at all

[sinful cypress]

Straight forward

[last spire]

it should be fine to use previous game version cfgs for the latest game version assuming they werent edited in any way?

[ripe flame]

Ofc

[weary tangle]

I'm unsure where this would be or if it's in a cfg but I had an idea for darker nights. Possible use the mechanic from the wandering lights anomaly to set the exposure for night time

Setting it around 25/30% of that would solve the darkness of night but leave exposure for day settings untouched

[lusty sail]

Huh? It's already dark as fuck, event flashlight didn't help lol

[crude basin]

Adjust your gamma, contrast and brightness in-game? I calibrated mine because I have an HDR display but night is still almost pitch-black. Can't see except with a flashlight.

[proven spoke]

does anyone else feel like slugs are horrible? or is it just me?

[weary tangle]

I'm on 50% everything SDR, flat monitor settings and can see clearly at night. Would be interested to see a screenshot. Sounds like people have varying dark levels. Adjusting gamma down would be fine but makes days and interiors to dark becomes flashlight sim in the day

[ripe flame]

They actually do less damage, yes. That's why they are cheaper than buckshot.

[weary tangle]

interior is fine but outside i should only really see around the barrel at 02am

[proven spoke]

but thats dumb D:

against bandits or similar it should be a single hit kill imo

but it feels like a pea shooter now

[crude basin]

Handy damage sheet for all weapons. Info is pulled straight from the cfg files so it's all accurate.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L6jBHJtw8AZrJZmOiFekiS2YVudHS3rQVGQN-oOaNMk/edit?gid=2000689774#gid=2000689774

At the bottom shows how the different ammo types for each weapon affect damage, durability, etc.

[void owl]

https://github.com/JsonAsAsset/JsonAsAsset

doesnt say it supports widgets but you might give it a shot

[void owl]

Darker nights are coming sometime-ish to my mod

[weary tangle]

CFG tweaks?

[lusty sail]

Does anyone found how with UE4SS show popup with custom data?
Cause I found this (screen 1) and tried to execute it with Lua (screen 2) but get this (screen 3) :0

[tidal yew]

is there a way to edit attachments textures like scopes, suppressors and magazines without UE5? or is there no way around virtual textures?

[flint flicker]

Does anyone understand how subitemgenerators and weight/chance work? I'm trying to get the NPCs to drop a single armor, that they are wearing. I keep getting multiples or all armor sets in their pool.

[ripe flame]

Chance is just a percent. 0.0 = 0%, 1.0 = 100%
Weight is a simple formula: current entry weight / sum of all entries weights.
Chance for drop when using weight is 100%, but weight determines a chance for a specific item. For ex.,

Weight of A = 1
Weight of B = 2
Weight of C = 3

Chance of dropping exactly "C" item: 3 / (1 + 2 + 3), which is 0.5 (50%)

[flint flicker]

Yeah, that's what I figured, but when I'm using weight, armor doesn't drop. If I use chance, it drops multiple

IE this. (Chance would is set here for testing purposes. Ideally, only 1 should drop)

[ripe flame]

You cannot use chance and weight at the same time

[flint flicker]

I've tried just using weight, I get no drops then.

[ripe flame]

Well, still, either/or

[flint flicker]

Well, I've used chance for the subitemgenerator, and weights in the armor generator. let's see how it goes.

[ripe flame]

According to DynamicItemGenerator.cfg, you can use Weight = 1 or Chance = <0.0...0.1> for EItemGenerationCategory::SubItemGenerator, yet PossibleItems for it contains only one entry.

Show me your struct where you call GeneralNPC_Neutral_Armor

[flint flicker]

here is the whole subset

[flint flicker]

Yeah, I can force it manually by inserting the armor struct into each soldier struct, but that is really going to suck to maintain and bloat the file

[ripe flame]

You cannot use

MinDurability = 0.0
MaxDurability = 0.85

or any other parameters in EItemGenerationCategory::SubItemGenerator except Weight or Chance. Also make sure your chance is a float (1.0 instead of just 1) just in case

[flint flicker]

I'll give it a whilr

whirl

[ripe flame]

Anyways, I highly recommend go through vanilla code and follow exactly same structure

Also, you can look at how Better NPC Progressive Loadouts does it: https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/596

[flint flicker]

Vanilla structure works fine until I want to have armor drops, then it falls apart.

I noticed that in the instances of armor drops in vanilla, they had peeled those out into different variables, bu ton ly 1 case at time

[flint flicker]

That is already implemented in, i'm trying to get that to work with NPC's dropping armors.

That mod doesn't have them drop armor's unfortunately :/

[ripe flame]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/601

[flint flicker]

I've been working with that mod author, we are running into the same issue with multiple spawns lol

[ripe flame]

[flint flicker]

Weight is also a float. Didn't notice that.

[flint flicker]

Where did you find this info?

[ripe flame]

From personal tests and reading vanilla code.

Haven't seen any sub generator that has anything other than chance or weight

[flint flicker]

I was pretty confident chance and weight were similar but seperate. IE weight is used to determine between the objects, and chance is the drop/spawn chance.

[ripe flame]

Well, maybe you can use both at the same time, but I haven't seen that in vanilla either

Proper debug log would help, but we don't have it 😦

[flint flicker]

Yeah, big sad

What I'm not understanding is the usage between weight and chance, I haven't been able to determine a logical pattern

[supple hare]

omg, is it common knowledge that all artifacts that give you physical protection are currently bugged? even artifact that gives you "weak" physical protection will max out your physical resistance

"weak" gives you +7 physical protection, flat value, max value for physical protection in vanilla is 4.5

that's +7 on top of your armor

just look at that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5pHW7PejFI

watch HP values after I change artifacts including modded +1 arti

[ripe flame]

weight item fights for a spawn with other weight items - there's only 1 result. Chance items spawn independantly based on value.

[flint flicker]

If that's the case, and Chance is the only thing needed for drops, that would explain why in dynamics, there are var1 and var2 structs. Those are the ONLY ones using chance, and those are the only ones by themselves and they drop.

[ripe flame]

You trigger a sub generator with a chance that refers to a struct with weights. Makes sense.

[flint flicker]

Other way, use weights in a subgen to point to a struct that drops the armor. If they are independent using chance, you must separate them, like they did....oh gosh I see a long day ahead of me.

[ripe flame]

Yeah, good luck. My custom stash loot gen is 4000 lines long.

[flint flicker]

Yeah....sadness

[ripe flame]

Worth submitting a report to https://support.stalker2.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[supple hare]

doing it right now, lol

if you guys suddenly loose your phys resistance after next patch, you know whom to thank

I feel like I'm missing something, it's too obvious, both in gameplay and in code

I tested only grenades, maybe it's not like that with bullet damage?

[ripe flame]

Don't be so sure, you first have to pass the bot that asks for saves and god knows what else after you submit a ticket

[severe musk]

So I finally found the 2 lines that seperate me from getting 3 FPS or 50+.

"r.LightCulling.Quality=1
r.LightFunctionQuality=1"

Setting it to anything below 1 makes underground tunnels (etc) look like its day time and the sun shines through the ground into the tunnels and buildings.

Way to keep the dark creep factor without losing ALL frames?

[ripe flame]

No. Welcome to crappy world of Unreal Engine

[teal wing]

thats not crappy

but youre disabling light function

https://tenor.com/view/bike-fall-memes-baton-roue-bike-stick-gif-8999945942594219773

[severe musk]

Well, as Im new to this side of things, wasnt sure if it would full disable or lesser the quality.

cause light function is the one thing that kills my frames in stalker 2

it seems at least

[teal wing]

would you consider downloading unreal

all these engine functions are easily viewed as checkboxes with descriptions when you hover on them in unreal engine editor

if youre searching for settings

uetools on nexus has a full cvar list in its download of exposed cvars

i also made a mod

[severe musk]

I have UETools downloaded yeah, so looking through that could help me with keeping lightfunction and keeping frames?

looking through that, being the cvars list

[teal wing]

whats your goal

i heard lights

[severe musk]

my frames are literally 8 or less, I just want to have it playable without losing light function and Im on low EVERYTHING with a 3060, 32gb ram and an i7 12th gen.

[teal wing]

doesnt sound right

[severe musk]

All I know is, if I disable light function im at least 40+ fps, turn it on and Im getting 8 or less frames.

and thats with everything low and DLSS ultraperformance

[teal wing]

your gpu is not running the game probably igpu

impossibly low unless you got a fake 3060

[teal wing]

.

theres no way a 3060 using ultra perf dlss at 8 fps

cap

mans using a life 9000 meters mod

[severe musk]

I have no mods o.o

I dont plan on doing mods until frames are stable with proper lighting

Ill do a quick recording showing though

[teal wing]

8 fps 3060 cap

[severe musk]

Even my roommate with a 3070 ti struggles to get more than 30-40 FPS on medium (hair and AA off, no DLSS settings used)

[teal wing]

use fsr frame gen for at least 60 or so on max settings

[severe musk]

Oh god even without light function, if I turn that on i lag

@teal wing

ugh it set as mkv hold on, ill reupload as diff format

[teal wing]

thats wild

[severe musk]

See what im saying, I dont get why its so bad

[teal wing]

lov to help but is bedtime

to me that seems like igpu perf or windows auto set to not use the gpu in gpu settings

[severe musk]

idk how to fix it without losing light function

in nvidia control panel i have it set to use the 3060, but I cant find that setting (or that explicitly says to use the 3060) in windows setting. Im still digging though

and have a goodnight yerts

[teal wing]

windows key start menu, type "gpu"

[severe musk]

This area?

[teal wing]

why are they off

[severe musk]

idk, never turned them off

So turning them off will help? 😅

I stg if thats all I needed to do, ima kick a fat kid in walmart.

turned them on and restarted pc, gonna find out shortly lol

[teal wing]

you wanna click on graphics at the top and see if stalker 2 is listed using high perf gpu

(but those on the page you sent shouldn’t be off)

[severe musk]

yeah its set to use my 3060 already, nvidia app musta changed it for me when i did it in that app

oh wait, it added the wrong exe

[sinful cypress]

Sorry, but can you move to another channel

[severe musk]

i added the right one now

[sinful cypress]

this is the mod-making one

[severe musk]

Well it was about modded engine.ini

at first atleast

apologies

[teal wing]

real

good thing I’m a modder

[merry wagon]

hi, does anyone know how to associate specific .wavs in a namemap with the .wems? MUS_GameWorld.uasset metadata lists all the bgm as named wav files then as wem files with random numbers, but the order of the .wem files doesnt seem to match up at all with the order of the .wav files

[void owl]

#1311655930907066461

[fossil idol]

Is there MinHUD mode for the latest game version?
like a compass's cardinal directions

[vestal sigil]

Hello guys, anyone know a good LOD mod that fixes the trees/buildings etc. loading in further away?

I saw a couple but idk which one is best

I run the game at 170 fps average anyways so idm if it decreases my performance a bit, it just kills my immersion

[ripe flame]

So, this one dropped. Claims to solve all current modding problems, yet problem is that a player has to download and configure this tool, which is not ideal.

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/906

Also, I don’t know about writing instructions in json. Feels tedious. What if I modify hundreds and even thousands different lines? What if vanilla changed its structure?

[sturdy elk]

Hello everyone! I'm very new to the community, but I want to release mods related to anomalies (including anomaly grenades). Does anyone know a console command to spawn anomalies?

[lusty sail]

I guess it will makes mod install harder for non modder users, instead just drag and drop paks they must do some stuff to setting json mod properly before play 🥲

[ripe flame]

But this can be somewhat useful in mod production, actually. Yet I don't believe it solves mod merging - there are too many caveats.

[eternal sapphire]

What mods cant be made standalone? I know refurl doesn't work on some things but don't know any specifics.

[limber rose]

Hi guys , i m currently testing to allow new attachments to a weapon.
But I cant find how to set the good position on the weapon model!
If somebody know , You make me so happy!

[ripe flame]

You mean non-intrusive? Any mod that changes vanilla values

[ripe flame]

By the way, for easier merge, edits in ZzMutantLoot.cfg should be a direct full override.

The rule is simple: if you are modifying vanilla entries, it should be a full cfg override.
If you are adding new entries (items, effects, meshes etc), it can be a separate file.

Right now, if a mod loads after Mutant Loot, it has to directly override ZzMutantLoot.cfg to make changes or duplicate its changes afterwards. Refurl is not an injection, sadly.

For ex, if I override mutant health after Mutant Loot (using refurls as well), there will be no loot

[eternal sapphire]

I have heard the exact opposite about this, I don't remember who but someone tested exactly this and it worked fine.

[ripe flame]

Well, this is tested and confirmed.

[eternal sapphire]

Well if this is true wouldn't it make more sense for all the vanilla edit mods to use the vanilla files, and mine that adds new entries should be standalone?

[ripe flame]

This is what is confirmed:

Mutant Loot does this first:

Blinddog : struct.begin {refurl=BlindDog.cfg;refkey=Blinddog}
   ItemGeneratorPrototypeSID = MutantDogGenerator
   struct.end

Then next mod in load order does this:

Blinddog : struct.begin {refurl=BlindDog.cfg;refkey=Blinddog}
   VitalParams : struct.begin
      MaxHP = 50 // 63
   struct.end
struct.end

Result: no loot.

[ripe flame]

Anything that modifies vanilla structs should use full cfg override instead of refurls.

Only creating new structs (like new loot tables, effects, items etc) can use refurls, as I said. Sadly.

[eternal sapphire]

With this logic any mod using refurl is "modifying" vanilla structs, I don't understand? lol

[eternal sapphire]

Ahh I see, thanks for clarification

[ripe flame]

This is intended use:

FleshEye : struct.begin {refurl=QuestItemPrototypes.cfg;refkey=[0]}

You add to the pool, which is fine

[eternal sapphire]

Deluxe DLC uses refkey for "injection": Deluxe_GunAK74_ST : struct.begin {refurl=../../GameData/ItemPrototypes/WeaponPrototypes.cfg; refkey=GunAK74_ST} //Base info SID = Deluxe_GunAK74_ST struct.end

[ripe flame]

As they load right after the main files, this is kinda fine. Not so fine for mods. Also, GSC are just being a bit lazy and bend rules themselves here 🙂

[limber rose]

If you want to exclude original properties you must ass {bskipref}

[ripe flame]

Ah, wait, no, they do not override here

They are creating new gun and use GunAK74_ST as base

[limber rose]

check this file, its deluxe dlc who add monolith weapon.

[ripe flame]

Yes, this is addition to the pool, which follows the rules for refurl

{bskipref} tells engine to ignore base values?

Anyways, this is not the case of modifying existing item. There's no such usage of refurl in vanilla

[limber rose]

exemple for attachments:

Gun_Monolit_AR_GS : struct.begin {refurl=../../../GameData/WeaponData/WeaponGeneralSetupPrototypes.cfg; refkey=GunM16_ST}
...
...
CompatibleAttachments : struct.begin {bskipref}

• without {bskipref}
  CompatibleAttachments : if you remove {bskipref} ill use the GunM16_ST CompatibleAttachments .
• with {bskipref} it take only those in Gun_Monolit_AR_GS -> CompatibleAttachments

[limber rose]

Exactly

[ripe flame]

Yeah, that's useful

[limber rose]

I will do documentation on all this tricks in few weeks

[ripe flame]

So, dear modders, if you are using refurls to "inject" into existing pool entries (including myself lol) - please stop 🙂 We are using refurls wrong in this case.

[ripe flame]

Don't forget to post link in https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1309526198833119303

[limber rose]

how do you use it? what i swrong?

[ripe flame]

Come on. I've just explained everything earlier

In short: you use refurl to add to the pool, not to edit pool entry.
Adding new item? You are good.
Editing an item? No-no.

Why?
These edits do not stack between mods. If several mods edit same entry using refurl, there will be only changes from the last loaded mod.

[limber rose]

ok 🙂
For developpers refurl and refkey works like inheritance from base class

[teal wing]

Thanks for sharing

[proven spoke]

is there a video that shows these steps?

as a tutorial

[drifting tapir]

This is not modifying the struct it is referencing. This is creating a new struct based on gunak74_st as a template

[limber rose]

I ll try to start a documentation of Stalker 2 modding this week end,
to begin I ll focus

• on tools required (fmodel, repack.exe)
• unpack vanilla stalker 2 to how it is structured and file content
• basic mod : in DifficultyPrototypes.cfg modify repair, upgrade buy and sell multipliers on each difficulty
• document .cfg files mechanics
• refurl, refkey,
• {refurl=../ttachPrototypes.cfg;refkey=TemplateScopeX2} {bskipref}
  As I m new moder (but 12years developer) I will try to improve documentation each step I make 🙂

Also, I will try do document variables on files.

[drifting tapir]

There is merit to doing refkey for vanilla replacement

[limber rose]

@drifting tapir yes and you can skip inheritance onsub struct with {bskipref}

[drifting tapir]

Best way to think of it now:
Refurl replaces a vanilla struct
Replacing cfg ... well replaces a cfg.

Replacing structs lets you make surgical and clean edits compared to replacing structs, especially for stuff like loot tables. But downside of refkey method is that it is impossible to merge and relies on alphabetical order of cfg for conflit resolution

[drifting tapir]

Hmm can you elaborate? What does it do? Im not familiar 😄

[ripe flame]

Yes, but modders should think about merges and compatibility from start. That's why it's a no-no.

[proven spoke]

Thanks! right now I would mostly need to learn how to modify existing mods on the nexus!

[drifting tapir]

Idk. I would rather have modders make compat patches between each other than rely on user auto merges (which they are absolutely breaking anyways)

I dont think it is ideal if the modding meta is for every mod to replace cfg and let god user automerge take the wheel.

[ripe flame]

Compat patches become a hell if they involve custom files with refurls

[drifting tapir]

But OTOH i can absolutely see modders being completely stupid with refurl. So idk.

[drifting tapir]

I dont see why they would

[ripe flame]

Because I went through it. Also, auto merges become unusable.

[limber rose]

its terms in development.

class Animal{
  int BirthDate;
  Eat(food)
{
}
 
}
class Cat : Animal{
  Mewo(){}

}

the cat inherit from animal

[ripe flame]

So no, it's bad to use custom files for struct overrides using refurls. Only for adding new entries.

[limber rose]

so the cat

  
Cat{
  int BirthDate;
  Animal.Eat(Food);
  Mewo();

}

@drifting tapir hope this help 🙂

[limber rose]

Not sure Using custom files avoid conflict and require less mmerging

its what CSG do with the dlc files

[eternal sapphire]

In simple terms... If you use refurl this will skip reference (bskipref) and not use data from that original reference you pointed it at

[drifting tapir]

So bskipref will be put on your custom struct to skip calls to the vanilla struct?

[eternal sapphire]

Correct, and can be used line by line it seems

[drifting tapir]

That should not be done for refurl replacement method and im scared it breaks the game

Refurl replacement is not a real replacement. It is tricking the game with duplicate variables (this is why the alphabetical order of cfgs matters)

[ripe flame]

It ignores base values

[ripe flame]

I am talking about opposite: if you tweak vanilla structs, use cfg override.

[bright flare]

Is it appropriate to make a suggestion for a mod for someone to make here?

[ripe flame]

DLCs only add new entries to pools. They do not edit anything in base game.

[bright flare]

I know some modding communities have like dedicated suggestion systems so that's why I ask

[drifting tapir]

#1311729776066691142 message my findings on refurl

[teal wing]

Imagine

[drifting tapir]

(Not speculative anymore, actually tested)

[teal wing]

You can suggest it here

[limber rose]

see I did a custom file for my moddified attachments

[drifting tapir]

There are merits to using refurl method.

But info on system has to be documented properly but i lazy.

And people need to not do stuff with their refurl cfgs like giving it 1 million zs so that nothing can override their refurl cfg

[eternal sapphire]

refurl is fine refkey is not, its simple really

[bright flare]

Then here's my suggestion:

I haven't seen one on the nexus but there's like 30 pages of stuff in there at this point so maybe it's slipped by me:
Has anyone done anything with fireplaces/campfires and their dynamic lighting/adjusting luminosity? The vanilla fires in the game seem reeeeeeeally weak. Don't light up the area like I think they should. Has anyone addressed this or is this not something that can be handled in the same way the customizable flashlight mod is?

Also lamps. Lamps too.

[drifting tapir]

User automerge is not a real compatibility solution.

So the mod meta is either modders making merged cfgs themselves, or making compatibility patches themselves

[limber rose]

refkey just say what to take in your cfg

I send CSG Monolith weapon file

from \Stalker2\Content\GameLite\DLCGameData\Deluxe\WeaponData

[drifting tapir]

Refkey is refurl no?

Refkey is what the game uses to make structs out of a template struct.

SpecificAmmoStruct uses refkey of TemplateAmmo for example.

[ripe flame]

Good luck with maintaning not only game updates itself, but 20 compat patches

[eternal sapphire]

refurl + refkey is not good**

[teal wing]

I have rewritten the graphics pipeline in my mod

[ripe flame]

And 375 combinations

[drifting tapir]

What "refkey replacement" does is cheat the system. By making a struct with the same name as its template, causimg a duplicate struct that the game has to do error resolution to find out what to use

[drifting tapir]

This is not a good argument because you have to do the same thing (but even more) to maintain merged cfgs.

[teal wing]

If you want to force enable dynamic lights for all sources you can do so with 1 value enabled. That would fix your issue. Can’t remember the name but I have it commented out in my ini.
Be warned this breaks flashlight

[drifting tapir]

(Again, user automerge is not a good solution)

[bright flare]

breaks them how? they just stop working?

[teal wing]

the flashlight is no longer cone but dynamic circle spotlight

[drifting tapir]

Like think about it,

Lets say you have a bandage mod. If you use refkey to replace bandage struct, you have to patch for everything thst changes bandages too.

If you replace consumableprototypes.cfg, you have to patch for everything that edits consumableprototypes.cfg.

Like i said, theres pros and cons to doing refkey or vanilla replacement. Ideally, we document info properly so modders can figure out a good meta for it

[eternal sapphire]

tbh I'm not convinced we cant find some solution to this, for full compatibility

[bright flare]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/221 I use this mod for dynamic flashlight stuff right now, does this do that same thing?

[ripe flame]

So I need to manually create a compat for Project Itemization, then for Project Itemization + Faction Patches, then for just Faction Patches, then for Shay's Living Zone, then for another A-Life mod, then for combinations of those mods, then for some new mod, then for another A-Life mod, then for all possible combinations of those mods, instead of making mods to be mergable by players?

[drifting tapir]

Someone can write tool that pulls all struct names and finds structs with refkey replacemebt

[eternal sapphire]

That would be nice but still a tool the user would need and I would like to avoid that

[teal wing]

No

[drifting tapir]

Yeah.

Or you can pretend users actually merge things properly instead of blowing up their game.

(And a loot table auto merge for faction patches and project itemization probably does)

[ripe flame]

Okey

Sure

[drifting tapir]

We're never gonna have full compatibility between mods till someone makes dltx

[bright flare]

Your mod looks promising: Does it achieve what I'm looking for with campfires? You know, making them light up spaces better and casting shadows?

I genuinely can't remember if I've seen fires casting shadows or not, I may be dumb

[drifting tapir]

I understand ramon's pov and i want compatibility and user convenience to the extent that it is possible.

But there are no perfect solutions rn, and i would rather mod authors know the risks/benefits of refkey replacement than outright forbid it.

(Also, something i speculated but never proved is that refkey replacement on certain structs can crash the game or cause unexpected behaviour. Since we are fundamentally relying on game to resolve duplicate vars for it to work)

And my take is that mod authors relying on user automerge compatibility is not a good meta at all.

And if mod authors dont rely on automerge as a fixall and make their own patches, then it becomes obvious why refkey has usecases depending on the extent of changes being made, as otherwise a bandage mod is going to need 1000 different consumableprototype.cfgs

[drifting tapir]

It would be useful for modders to make patches between each other too.

[teal wing]

r.Lumen.ScreenProbeGather.DirectLighting=0 ;0 SET TO ONE FOR NON STATIC LIGHTS

you were looking for casted shadows yes

that’s in the ini

[teal wing]

I’m not giving a ue class in the mod Chan but thanks for pointing out the simplification

very helpful

Thankfully tho this isn’t Reddit so we won’t need to have a “well actually”

spoke too soon

indeed

[bright flare]

Is there also a way to lengthen the reach of these lights or have you already addressed that in your engine.ini?

[teal wing]

You could do this r.Lumen.TraceMeshSDFs.TraceDistance=90, higher number farther dist. If you want to edit the lights themselves, no

I’m so glad you put two and two together

[flint flicker]

ope someone big mad

[bright flare]

by "the lights themselves" I assume you mean fine tuning each individual fire. I don't care about that. Since pretty much all of the fires are about the same size, I would assume their reach in the world is about the same. I'll try your engine ini out when I get home today, see what it does for me. Thank you.

would that line effect flashlights or just the static light sources?

[teal wing]

Lmk if you have any other questions and direct them in my mod channel https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1312200348303233105 and we can take a look together:)

It affects all static lights including flashlight

[bright flare]

I'll have to see if the flashlight mod I'm using overwrites that for flashlights then. We shall see how well they play together.

[teal wing]

They will work together but it will still be a bit odd

you’ll see what I mean when you try it

so the setting changes most all lights

static, dynamic, butthole, you name it

it’s not great for gameplay tho

I’d rather be working in ue55

imagine believing someone literally could rewrite a pipeline with an ini

ok and

we come back full circle

[ripe flame]

You two should rent a room if you want to continue. Chill.

[teal wing]

Let me try this

[teal wing]

.

maybe you missed that part. If you have further questions please direct them to Reddit

[drifting tapir]

How are graphics real if the engine is called unreal.

[teal wing]

real

(Un)

[drifting tapir]

If stalker was made on real engine it would be good

[teal wing]

Not exactly

Since this is my career

why would there be ?

unfortunately some of us do this for work so please dm me with any issues and I can get to them later

lol

so he’s just a troll

we’re done here

[dense swift]

Neat, it kinda resolved itself and I didn't have to lock the channel for 7 hours till I woke up

No but seriously, chill out

[teal wing]

it’s ok to get caught up in technicalities

could sit here all day arguing about blue gold dresses

[flint flicker]

@ripe flame so chance & weight cannot be used together, they do the same thing except chance will allow the item to spawn. Unfortunately, it looks like if you use chance in any item generator, bodyarmor, head ect it will treat it as one giant list of things to potientially spawn, just like one of the consumable structs

[ripe flame]

Have you tried using [*] instead of numeric array [0] and vice versa?

[flint flicker]

Yes, but what is the difference? Does [*] act like some kind of inheritor?

[ripe flame]

This is my weak spot, actually. I am not sure what exactly [*] does.

[drifting tapir]

Same 💀

[ripe flame]

It is used in different cases

[flint flicker]

I just swapped it in for different use cases, but it didnt help.

[merry mountain]

when order does not matter or engine does order automatically

as far as i know

[sinful cypress]

I have no clue, but AI says:

In Unreal Engine modding, the difference between [*] and [0] typically refers to how arrays or lists are accessed in scripting (e.g., Blueprints, C++, or Python). Here’s the explanation:

[0]
• [0] accesses the first element of an array.
• Arrays in Unreal Engine (like in many programming languages) are zero-indexed, meaning the first element has an index of 0, the second element is 1, and so on.
• Example in C++:

TArray<int32> MyArray = {10, 20, 30};
int32 FirstElement = MyArray[0]; // Returns 10

•    [* ]  is a shorthand, commonly used in Blueprints, to reference the last element of an array.
•    It’s useful when you don’t know the exact length of the array or want to avoid manually calculating the last index.
•    Example in C++:

TArray<int32> MyArray = {10, 20, 30};
int32 LastElement = MyArray[MyArray.Num() - 1]; // Returns 30 (equivalent to MyArray[*] in Blueprints)

Key Differences
1. Position in the array:
• [0] = Always refers to the first element.
• [* ] = Always refers to the last element.
2. Dynamic behavior:
• [0] remains constant as the first element, regardless of array modifications.
• [* ] dynamically adjusts to always point to the last element, even if the array changes in size.

Blueprint Examples:
• [0]:
In Blueprint Array nodes, [0] accesses the first element of an array.
• [ *):
The shorthand [ *] or “Last Index” in Blueprints accesses the last element of an array dynamically.

This distinction is especially useful for working with arrays that are modified at runtime, allowing efficient access to specific elements.

[teal wing]

Can you code block that I think it messed some up

[bright flare]

It's just me but trusting AI on this probably isn't the best call. Far as I can tell, it's an opinion aggregator. Not really the best way of finding a desired solution.

[sinful cypress]

True

[ripe flame]

My approach to spawn one random item from list is this:

Gamepass_ItemGenerators.cfg

GamePass_Stash_ItemGenerator_Cheap : struct.begin {refurl=../ItemGeneratorPrototypes.cfg;refkey=[0]}
   SID = GamePass_Stash_ItemGenerator_Cheap
   ItemGenerator : struct.begin
...
      [7] : struct.begin
         Category = EItemGenerationCategory::SubItemGenerator
         //bAllowSameCategoryGeneration = true
         PlayerRank = ERank::Newbie
         PossibleItems : struct.begin
            [0] : struct.begin
               ItemGeneratorPrototypeSID = Omega_Stash_ItemGenerator_Newbie
               Weight = 1
            struct.end
         struct.end
      struct.end
...

OmegaItemGenerators.cfg

Omega_Stash_ItemGenerator_Newbie : struct.begin {refurl=../ItemGeneratorPrototypes.cfg;refkey=[0]}
   SID = Omega_Stash_ItemGenerator_Newbie
   ItemGenerator : struct.begin
      [0] : struct.begin
         Category = EItemGenerationCategory::SubItemGenerator
         PossibleItems : struct.begin
            [0] : struct.begin
               ItemGeneratorPrototypeSID = Omega_WeaponGenerator_Newbie
               Chance = 0.02
            struct.end
         struct.end
      struct.end
...

Still OmegaItemGenerators.cfg

Omega_WeaponGenerator_Newbie : struct.begin {refurl=../ItemGeneratorPrototypes.cfg;refkey=[0]}
   SID = Omega_WeaponGenerator_Newbie
   ItemGenerator : struct.begin
      [0] : struct.begin
         Category = EItemGenerationCategory::WeaponPrimary
         PossibleItems : struct.begin
            [0] : struct.begin
               ItemPrototypeSID = GunPM_HG // 950, PTM. Pistol
               Weight = 100.0
               MinDurability = 0.4
               MaxDurability = 0.9
               AmmoMinCount = 10
               AmmoMaxCount = 30
            struct.end

[ripe flame]

Ah, guessed so. Thanks!

[bright flare]

I have no clue, but AI says:

In Unreal Engine modding, the difference between [*] and [0] typically refers to how arrays or lists are accessed in scripting (e.g., Blueprints, C++, or Python). Here’s the explanation:

[0]
    •    [0] accesses the first element of an array.
    •    Arrays in Unreal Engine (like in many programming languages) are zero-indexed, meaning the first element has an index of 0, the second element is 1, and so on.
    •    Example in C++:

TArray<int32> MyArray = {10, 20, 30};
int32 FirstElement = MyArray[0]; // Returns 10

[*]
    •    [*] is a shorthand, commonly used in Blueprints, to reference the last element of an array.
    •    It’s useful when you don’t know the exact length of the array or want to avoid manually calculating the last index.
    •    Example in C++:

TArray<int32> MyArray = {10, 20, 30};
int32 LastElement = MyArray[MyArray.Num() - 1]; // Returns 30 (equivalent to MyArray[*] in Blueprints)

Key Differences
    

    Position in the array:
    •    [0] = Always refers to the first element.
    •    [*] = Always refers to the last element.
        Dynamic behavior:
    •    [0] remains constant as the first element, regardless of array modifications.
    •    [*] dynamically adjusts to always point to the last element, even if the array changes in size.


Blueprint Examples:
    •    [0]:
In Blueprint Array nodes, [0] accesses the first element of an array.
    •    [*]:
The shorthand [*] or “Last Index” in Blueprints accesses the last element of an array dynamically.

This distinction is especially useful for working with arrays that are modified at runtime, allowing efficient access to specific elements. ```

[bright flare]

^^

it was just asterisks being funky

[teal wing]

okay:)

[flint flicker]

Issue is I need it to pick 1 out of 4 or 5, and spawn it. I've gotten it to pick the 1 of 4 but it doesn't spawn it, even when using a subgen to call a diff struct. I know it hits the struct though, because the NPC gets the visual update

[ripe flame]

My method picks one item from any amount, based on item weight

And spawns it with desired chance

Notice how there's a "middle man" generator

[flint flicker]

That's what I have setup. Middle man gen does call the one I want, and it does equip the NPC with it, but it doesn't drop the armor.

[ripe flame]

You cannot have more than 5 entries in EItemGenerationCategory::SubItemGenerator's PossibleItems struct, btw

[flint flicker]

What makes you say that? I don't think that is true

[ripe flame]

Cause I tried. If you go above, it takes into account only 5 last entries

Also, have you seen any vanilla SubItemGenerator with PossibleItems's max index above 4?

[flint flicker]

In ItemGeneratorPrototypes

[ripe flame]

Interesting. So maybe it is dependant on where you want to generate

In stashes it didn't go above 5

Also, damn, how do you look at that syntax highlight for a long time? My eyes already hurt 😄

[flint flicker]

Also, you can use any variable in a subgen, they just can't be conflicting variables.

It's easy to read. Green on black is surprisingly nice

[ripe flame]

Well, I prefer this, but sure 🙂

[flint flicker]

Yellow triggers migraines, so ew no thank you lol

[ripe flame]

standard color for strings in Sublime

[flint flicker]

All I know is, i'm really dumbfounded.

The NPC literally spawns with it and won't drop the stupid armor

[ripe flame]

This is what I did in my Project Itemization rewrite:

DynamicItemGenerator.cfg

GeneralNPC_Neutral_CloseCombat_ItemGenerator : struct.begin {refurl=../ItemGeneratorPrototypes.cfg;refkey=[0]}
   SID = GeneralNPC_Neutral_CloseCombat_ItemGenerator
   RefreshTime = 1d
   ItemGenerator : struct.begin
...
      [*] : struct.begin
         Category = EItemGenerationCategory::SubItemGenerator
         PlayerRank = ERank::Newbie, ERank::Experienced
         PossibleItems : struct.begin
            [0] : struct.begin
               ItemGeneratorPrototypeSID = ProjectItemization_ItemGenerator_Cheap
               Chance = 0.16 // 0.04
            struct.end
         struct.end
      struct.end

zzProjectItemization_ItemGenerators.cfg

ProjectItemization_ItemGenerator_Cheap : struct.begin {refurl=../ItemGeneratorPrototypes.cfg;refkey=[0]}
   SID = ProjectItemization_ItemGenerator_Cheap
   ItemGenerator : struct.begin
      [0] : struct.begin
         Category = EItemGenerationCategory::Junk
         bAllowSameCategoryGeneration = true
         PossibleItems : struct.begin
            [0] : struct.begin
               ItemPrototypeSID = DirtyRags
               Weight = 100.0
               MinCount = 1
               MaxCount = 2
            struct.end

[flint flicker]

One second, I think I see the issue.

Also, none of the examples have been armor, and I think that is an important distinction

[ripe flame]

Yes, gear can be treated in a unique way

If you want it as loot, maybe use "Junk" category

[flint flicker]

OH MY FUCK ME

[ripe flame]

and add

         bAllowSameCategoryGeneration = true

[flint flicker]

Nope

BodyArmor is treated as the NPC mesh. You need to gen it twice to drop. 1st one goes to the NPC, second one goes to the inventory

[ripe flame]

That would be my second guess 🙂 Yet you still need to add bAllowSameCategoryGeneration = true, don't you?

[flint flicker]

No

[ripe flame]

Strange

maybe engine doesn't count it as a duplicate, as first one goes to equipment

Did it actually work?

What if you add

               MinCount = 2
               MaxCount = 2

instead of duplicating entries?

[flint flicker]

Ill give it a go, but yes it works

[ripe flame]

Well, here you go, nice

[ripe flame]

Yet this approach will result in 100% drop rate, which is not good 🙂

[flint flicker]

It should be minCount = 1 then, with MaxCount = 2.

Chance set to what you want the drop rate to be.

[ripe flame]

I mean, if NPC spawns with armor, it will 100% drop as item too

That's not good

[flint flicker]

No, without a duplicate, it does not spawn.

Ive been fighting that for so long, that I know lol.

[ripe flame]

I am talking about

               MinCount = 2
               MaxCount = 2

[flint flicker]

Wait one, will post

[ripe flame]

XSpawnObjBySID GeneralNPC_Bandit_CloseCombat 1 false for faster tests

Remember that already spawned NPCs will not apply changed cfg rules

[flint flicker]

yeah, i know. I fly about 500m out to test

[ripe flame]

Why fly, when you can spawn

[flint flicker]

oh, thank you

cause, fly =7000 i get there fast lol

and i didnt know that command....

[ripe flame]

I've figured that out for NPCs, thanks to @eternal sapphire for XSpawnObjBySID Blinddog 1 false

You can go through my vault of findings, it's public. Link in my profile https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/MJRamon

[drifting tapir]

fwiw the number in the command is the rank. Newbie, experienced, veteran, master, etc. You can use the names of the ranks in the command too.

I dont know how the rank interacts with loot tables. It is possible that a "1" spawn might always use a newbie loot table, whereas "2" uses experienced and so on.

Im not sure if "1" is newbie or experienced either. Never tried 0 in the command. Someone else might have more info on this

[ripe flame]

Oh, good to know

[drifting tapir]

Can you try the command with 0 to see if anything spawns ? 😄

[flint flicker]

Works, but might be difficult to control spawn rate.

[drifting tapir]

Possible that 0 is newbie.
I normally use the rank name for spawn commands so im not sure

[flint flicker]

no spawn with 0

[ripe flame]

That's good to know too 🙂

[flint flicker]

I lied, that did spawn someone

[ripe flame]

It spawns a stalker if cannot find what requested

[flint flicker]

@ripe flame Here is a snippet it, the top is the call, middle is the "middle man" and the last one is the one of the functions.

Note, I'm thinking duplicate with [0] [1] is the way to go, as min/max count is not spawning all the time, even at chance= 1

[ripe flame]

Yeah, seems like more control

But you really don't want to have 100% chance of armor drop for balance reasons

[flint flicker]

correct.

[ripe flame]

Meanwhile, as we speak, @rain juniper releases "Version 0.22 Preview(Drop armor Faction Patches)" version of "Better NPC Progressive Loadouts" which drops armor 😄
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/596?tab=files

[flint flicker]

.......

[flint flicker]

I had a bug, it may be viable to do min = 1, max = 2 with chance set to your drop rate.

[flint flicker]

I think that's going to have a lot of armor spawns.

[little sluice]

If the armors are low condition and drops are rare enough it could be balanced enough

[crude basin]

Are we pretending like vanilla is already perfectly balanced and we're going to ruin it's impeccable pacing, economy and design with giving npc's the ability to drop armor?

[flint flicker]

I mean, like 2 or 3 spawns per person

[limber rose]

qu

[eternal sapphire]

When you have multiple PossibleItems use "bAllowSameCategoryGeneration = true". Example:

   SID = MutantFleshGenerator
   ItemGenerator : struct.begin
      [0] : struct.begin
         Category = EItemGenerationCategory::Junk
         bAllowSameCategoryGeneration = true
         PossibleItems : struct.begin
            [0] : struct.begin
               ItemPrototypeSID = MutantBlood
               Chance = 0.5
               MinCount = 1
               MaxCount = 2
            struct.end
            [1] : struct.begin
               ItemPrototypeSID = MutantMeat
               Chance = 0.6
               MinCount = 1
               MaxCount = 3
            struct.end
            [2] : struct.begin
               ItemPrototypeSID = MutantHide
               Chance = 0.3
               MinCount = 1
               MaxCount = 2
            struct.end
            [3] : struct.begin
               ItemPrototypeSID = FleshEye
               Chance = 0.7
               MinCount = 1
               MaxCount = 1
            struct.end
         struct.end
      struct.end
   struct.end
struct.end```

[weak apex]

anyone know what the absolute protection effects are in EffectProtoypes?

like: ProtectionAbsoluteStrike9

[lone sapphire]

I would like to ask about using the dev console, what are the side activities ID codes.
Not side quest ID codes.

[flint flicker]

that's counter productive in this instance, I only want 1.

And I'm fairly confident at this point BodyArmor is handled differently when it comes to drops, since the body armor is used as a npc mesh

[south kayak]

Continuing the work on my mod, this time I wanted to try something different, going back to the roots of 2010 concept arts regarding the fanatical monolith, yet not going over the "stitch a mask to my face" line.
So here's a monolith's "assault gas mask" which is a rare sight among the monolith troops, made to strike terror and fear into the enemy, called "Gaze of Monolith", so basically a wip unique helmet. The 3d model is in the making too, but early version, still needs a lot of work.

[neat thistle]

Hm, is it possible right now to make the game to close the inventory on consumption an item?

[lusty sail]

Whole day ruined, but I've done recursive reference preview and icon selector for my tool. I'm still do something else instead of fixing global thing that broke everything xD

Before proper testing, need to fix deletion of properties and adding it to working space window. because now it just redraw new properties in bad positions and also effects don't update when I delete some of effects SIDs or some property from ShouldShowEffects.

[crude basin]

Since they are repeatable 'radial' quests there might not be static ID's for them. The list is probably generated upon interacting with the NPC, with the objective locations generated as well. Most likely then, ID's are generated at the same time randomly.

[flint flicker]

this looks very useful lol

[flint flicker]

is this posted anywhere?

How much of a hassle is it to make a localization .pak?

[long lantern]

Is there just a limit to how big a virtual texture can be imported into UE5? An example is this coat, when I tried to manually convert to a VT and apply a larger number as a filter, it vanished from the list

[teal wing]

hm

[teal wing]

how big is the number you put in

and the texture

[long lantern]

That specific texture (T_ful_mil_03_c_01_D) is 12288x8192

and I tried texture size threshold 16384 and 32768 and it just deletes from the list if I click "Apply Filter" and doesn't change

I was working on a camo overhaul for the Corps, and only a few clothing textures were small enough to convert apparently

[keen crag]

I've got a question for everyone making mods for S2 or unreal engine in general (hopefully)

My formatting isn't going to be great because I'm on my phone ATM.

How much would you want a GUI to handle packing and unpacking not only .pak files, but also the new .ucas/.utoc files as well? I personally don't mind using CLI tools for one or two paks, but when repeating that it gets to be a bit annoying.

I'm working on said GUI and have .pak support currently, that's nothing special so I haven't made a build for release yet, but ideally tomorrow I'll implement .ucas/.utoc support as well.

To describe the GUI since I don't have pictures currently and can't be bothered to turn my PC back on it's essentially: select a folder (where paks and such are) on the left side, that populates a list you can select paks and such from in the middle you have your pack and unpack buttons as well as a place to enter an aes key if needed (and save it to a config file) and on the right you select an output folder where the unpacked files will go and also where you would select a folder for repacking

I know a picture would do so much better, but I'm tired lmao.

Just to clarify something too, I know other GUIs exist that handle paks, but I'm not aware of anything that handles paks and ucas/utoc (I don't even support this yet, lol, hopefully tomorrow)

Anyways, let me know if that would be something y'all are interested in. It'll be free + mit license with ongoing support and id take suggestions on features as I'm new with unreal modding so I'm not totally sure what features would be needed/wanted.

EDIT: I guess just give a thumbs up reaction if this is something worth doing

[lone sapphire]

Hi, thanks for sharing your info about it, and I appreciate that you respond. But I have no idea how to get that generated ID for those side activities. I guess you need a tool for this to find every ID codes for side activities. That's why I asked here because maybe someone here who already have these side activities ID codes listed in their ID codes file for quest, side activities, and side quests.

[crude basin]

I'm saying the ID codes are probably randomly generated in real time due to the nature of the randomly generated quests, if there are even ID codes at all. It might use a completely different mechanic from quests altogether. Basically, what you're asking isn't available as far as I know, which is why nobody is giving you an answer.

[warm wing]

Patch 1.1 with A-Life Fixes https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1643320/view/525329871842312365

[little sluice]

Lets fucking goooo

[raw parcel]

this looks like a game changer holy shit

[lusty sail]

Shiit, again 999+ gigs patch? 😩

[stark violet]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-that-what-is-happening-sam-neill-remove-sunglasses-gif-15770358

[little sluice]

Ready or Not (UE5) had a "5 gb" patch the other day, but 60 gb worth of .paks had to be redownloaded, I loooove modern game engine architecture

[lusty sail]

Steam said to me “110” gigs 🫡

[glossy berry]

How many mods will break?

I want to finish story without problems😅 Can I skip patch?

[minor cedar]

Judging by the changelog weapon mods probably shouldn't break, seeing how GSC's not touching weapon balance so far (except the Gauss buff)

[unreal knot]

The A-Life ones might need to be removed until updated, assuming we need them anymore

[glossy berry]

Yeah, that’s true

[glossy berry]

What about loot mods?

[minor cedar]

not sure to be honest, that's not my area of expertise.

[ripe flame]

Rule of thumb: consider all mods

[glossy berry]

Fixed EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION

Who can test now?😅

[orchid gull]

Has anyone been able to make a pda overhaul mod to add Messages between stalkers and events and a faction relation tab plus making the pda 3d zoomed out ?

[woeful crane]

I tried to tell everyone...just let em cook

[nimble heron]

110 GBS WHAT THE FUCK

WHt IS THIS PATXH LMAO LALAAGHAHAHAHAHAHA

WHAT

thats honestly insane like

why

[dense saffron]

When they said bigger the 1.0.3 and 1.0.2 i didn't think it'd be another game size file big

[nimble heron]

i mean there are a lot of fixes but 110 gigs is just insane

[eternal sapphire]

Assuming they didn't fundamentally change how mods are loaded any mods not editing vanilla files will still work, even the ones editing vanilla should still work but be outdated if that file was updated. This is a good example of why refkey mods are convenient.

[ripe flame]

Sure. I am talking about player point of view 🙂

Well, personally I will know what's changed in 5 hours

[nimble heron]

just repacking will be enough for vast majority of mods i think

i hope at least

[eternal sapphire]

My eta is 15 mins, if there's anything you want checked lmk

[neat thistle]

Oh, did they fix 'empty slot' thing?

[orchid gull]

I dont think the update is 110gb , just mostly validating 110gb of files

[nimble heron]

well its 1800 fixes

[orchid gull]

Yea fixes not added things

[nimble heron]

they are global tho

[summer silo]

Might have to update localization files as the patch notes mention updates to them

[orchid gull]

I can barely believe fixes is 110gb

[nimble heron]

gsc is the dev, the game is made on ue 5

i mean

[summer silo]

Localization mods are going to be the bane of our existence aren't they?

[nimble heron]

at least its not a terabyte

[ripe flame]

We are getting there

Mmmm, modern game dev culture, love it

[orchid gull]

I dont mind it being 110gb. But last patch was large also dont remember how large but i remember most of the size was just validating already installed fies

[summer silo]

Over 15 localization and voiceover updates.
Updated descriptions of multiple armor upgrades.

[eternal sapphire]

I don't think we HAVE to update them, they should still load as is. We should always keep things up to date though.

[ripe flame]

Downloading: 110 Gb, validating: 127 Gb

[orchid gull]

Oh shid

[nimble heron]

🙂

[summer silo]

It's most likely the fact pakchunks are a bitch to xdelta patch

[eternal sapphire]

Well something is broken... LowLevelFatalError [File:D:\STALKER2\s2editor\Engine\Source\Runtime\RenderCore\Private\GlobalShader.cpp] [Line: 878] Could not load section 0 (of 387) of the global shadermap.

[neat thistle]

oof

[eternal sapphire]

its the skip splash screen mod??? lol

[summer silo]

welp

[ripe flame]

Just FYI, for faster compare, I use WinMerge to compare folders of unpacked cfgs. One for old game version, one for new game version. Always keep you cfgs 🙂

[eternal sapphire]

Well that's interesting...

Only this text is missing, I hope they didn't change how localization is loaded for mods...

[ripe flame]

There was similar problem in Project Itemization with just 1 item. Maye @neat thistle can help here

If it's related

[lusty sail]

AIGlobals has some changes, new lines of properties and some other files, like ObjPrototypes etc

[eternal sapphire]

Seems to be all the new items, like the localization isn't being loaded at all.

[ripe flame]

Make some coffee, guys, we have a deep dive ahead

If someone can drop unpacked clean vanilla 1.1 GameData folder, that would be great

For those of us with modem connection

[neat thistle]

Holy brahmin...

What they've done

[ripe flame]

Just make sure there's no mods in ~mods folder when exporting in FModel

[lusty sail]

I can, DialogPrototypes and DialogChainPrototypes with 7k+ files no needs?

[ripe flame]

I need only RSQ ones from
DialogPrototypes
QuestNodePrototypes

[eternal sapphire]

I am exporting right now, gonna make coffee and hope it doesn't take forever...

[lusty sail]

Check if RSQ ones is correct

[ripe flame]

Big thanks!

[ripe flame]

Thanks too, @lusty sail got it

[lusty sail]

For pseudodog devs make cooldown 20s, was 10s and made MaxInstancesInGroup from 11 to 9, still a bunch of fantoms xD

[ripe flame]

Seems enough for me

Pseudodogs aren't a challenge without swarm of phantoms

[deep ridge]

A life patch

[eternal sapphire]

Okay umm.. Localization was pak 28 right???

[neat thistle]

lmao

[neat thistle]

Did you check the bottom of the list?

[lusty sail]

They combined it?

[neat thistle]

I remember seeing patchunk40 or smth there, but it should've been much higher with others

[lusty sail]

No 28 pakchunk

[eternal sapphire]

Checked the whole list 3 times now and yea.. its not here lol

[lusty sail]

Really...

[neat thistle]

Fucking hell

Now we going to play without names and descriptions 😄 😄

[lusty sail]

LocalizationDB was in pakchunk28?

If yes, now it's in pakchunk29.utoc

[ripe flame]

I'm sure they just moved it. Use Ctrl+Shift+F in FModel

[neat thistle]

oof, noice

[ripe flame]

Chill, they won't make cardinal changes to structure at this stage

[eternal sapphire]

Well localization mods stopped working so we are panicking lmao

[digital gulch]

gonna be a pain to figure what mods work

[ripe flame]

Interesting.
SpawnDistanceMin and SpawnDistanceMax are gone from ALifeDirectorScenarioPrototypes

Yeah, all distance settings are removed from it. Looks like A-Life system is noticeably different now.

[summer silo]

[eternal sapphire]

The localization file has soooo many changes

Changed the ball description:
"sid_items_AArtifactWeirdBall_description": "A scruffy children's ball. While equipped, you recover quicker, especially in combat. It almost seems like the toy is absorbing\u00A0the\u00A0impact.",

[lusty sail]

Lol

Stash icons

OG icons came back

[half willow]

that purple by default?

thats sick

[ripe flame]

It's so funny for me that they are doubling vendor's random quest payoffs with every patch 😄

Once my mod was 4x payout increase, now it's 2x

[half willow]

yeah i mean getting paid 3500 for a quest in pripyat is

so good that theyre changing it

[ripe flame]

Still 800 for pack of dogs. Like, come on

[half willow]

hahah

[ripe flame]

Two medkits?

[half willow]

two medkits, 30 rounds of 5.45 and a sausage

[ripe flame]

Noone bothers with that one, I am sure

Only out of boredom

[half willow]

i mean, it's the equivalent of preston quests from fo4

[ripe flame]

Feels like home

[half willow]

SKEEFA, I caught word of a settlement in need of your help

[eternal sapphire]

Can confirm the game still cant handle missing items... tbh I wish they would just roll back whatever they did to allow these saves to even load, much better for it to hard crash on load so the user at least knows something is wrong.

[ripe flame]

I also made this in MinUI, map feels a lot readable with such small change

Because it has different shape, you can very fast read other important icons

[ripe flame]

I don't think they will address mod related things even in next patch

Too soon

[neat thistle]

Wait, you can customize the text in .json after all?

What are those in the end?

[eternal sapphire]

Its not really a mod related thing, sure mods are what can trigger it but its still game limitation.

[lusty sail]

It’s like basic feature to prevent bugs and other unwanted staff when developing inventory systems

[ripe flame]

Well, they didn't remove any item, so there's no such issue in vanilla. Yet.

[neat thistle]

Blyat. This is sad 😦

I hoped...

[ripe flame]

\u00A0? It's just a poorly parsed space

[eternal sapphire]

Is it? but why?

[ripe flame]

https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/00a0/index.htm

Cause tool that they are using is a piece of shit?

[minor cedar]

Welp

[wise pecan]

Hey buddy, loving Omega!

[ripe flame]

Thanks! Currently working on update, expect it today

[eternal sapphire]

Can we all agree to use this formatting when providing localization resources:

"sid_questItemprototypes_MutantMeat_name": "Mutant Meat",
"sid_questItemprototypes_MutantMeat_description": "Meat from these mutated creatures may not be the first choice for most in the Zone but with the right knowledge it can be prepared safely.",
"sid_questItemprototypes_DeerHorn_name": "Deer Antlers",
"sid_questItemprototypes_DeerHorn_description": "The antlers of this rare mutant create a local psionic field that alters the brains of nearby creatures. The full extent of this alteration is currently unknown. Research into the effect could prove very valuable, which is why scientists and traders will pay well for this item."
}```

So json merge tools can easily work

[neat thistle]

Oh, got it

[ripe flame]

Either use same identation as vanilla, if wrapped into {}
Or leave without identation, but do not use {}

I prefer not using {} at all, so I can just Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C

Well, no, we should always use identation same as vanilla.

[eternal sapphire]

You can keep your personal files like this. Its just really annoying when I need to edit dozens of these to add the proper syntax for my merge tool, when it could easily be drag and drop like mine and @cobalt hamlet

[ripe flame]

Missed "merge tools" part

[eternal sapphire]

tbh if we all used the same naming conventions and formatting It would be very easy for me to make one mega merged patch and keep it updated

[ripe flame]

I do believe we need one github, so people just commit changes

[lusty sail]

Any tutorials about localization?

I just figured out that I miss that part

I’ve unpacked localizationdb and get files in JSONs

[ripe flame]

I have this one currently
https://github.com/MJRamon/STALKER-2-United-Localization

[eternal sapphire]

Ehh, its easier for me to just load everyone's modular language.json and click merge. This also allows easy updating with new game versions

[spring idol]

https://tenor.com/view/five-nights-at-freddys-five-night-freddy-freddy-gif-23631661

[half willow]

this is probably the best solution

so there is basically a localization mod that includes everyones changes

[wise pecan]

Do you know which Pak the Face Texs are in?

[ripe flame]

Well, it still has to have two versions at least. With "real weapon names" and without

[half willow]

yeah i mean for adding new stuff

this would be amazing

if youre editing the base files

not so much

[ripe flame]

Well, yeah, just a repo for all the translations

Download and merge what you want

[eternal sapphire]

Can easily merge with RWN as the base DB

[ripe flame]

Are you sure there were no mods in "~mods" folder when you exported? Some quest payouts are now so much higher, that they even exceed my mod's values

[lusty sail]

Yes

I drop out mods folder before update

[ripe flame]

Damn they cranked up that cash-money then, alright

[ripe flame]

Did you drop them off higher then "steamapps\common\S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Heart of Chornobyl"?

[lusty sail]

Yes

[ripe flame]

Okey, just making sure

[shell marsh]

they’ve added a bunch of a-life specific cvars

[lusty sail]

And i use only stamina, weight and climbing mods

[ripe flame]

FModel picks up all paks in game root folder

[shell marsh]

"gsc.ModelLair.ALifeExpansion.DivisionFactor": { "Flags": [ "SetByConstructor" ], "type": "Float", "value": 0.33000001311302185 }, "gsc.ModelLair.ALifeExpansion.Enabled": { "Flags": [ "SetByConstructor" ], "type": "Boolean", "value": false }, "gsc.ModelLair.ALifeExpansion.MinModelQuantity": { "Flags": [ "SetByConstructor" ], "type": "Int32", "value": 2 }, "gsc.ModelLair.ALifeExpansion.Relevancy": { "Flags": [ "SetByConstructor" ], "type": "Float", "value": 3000.0 }, "gsc.ModelLair.ALifeExpansion.RequirementFactor": { "Flags": [ "SetByConstructor" ], "type": "Float", "value": 0.6600000262260437 }, "gsc.UnitModel.OfflineRelevancyTime": { "Flags": [ "SetByConstructor" ], "Helptext": "Offline relevancy time seconds", "type": "Float", "value": 1200.0 },

[ripe flame]

Vendor's random quests now also have 24 in-game hours cooldown instead of 72

[sand vault]

These are 1.1 cfgs?

[silk totem]

Waiting for the update to finish on my end. Are most mods still functioning? Any specific ones that should be removed?

[eternal sapphire]

The skip splash screen one crashes

[crimson laurel]

gyatt 110gb update 🤣

redownloading the whole game on god

[sand vault]

Is that GameData.zip up there the new files?

[digital gulch]

wanna be safe? remove everything and wait for updates

[ripe flame]

Also,

BACKUP YOUR SAVES

[eternal sapphire]

Do this even if you don't use mods!

[sand vault]

I backup my entire "\AppData\Local\Stalker2" folder

But if you want just the saves, backup this entire folder if you're on Steam. "\AppData\Local\Stalker2\Saved\STEAM"

[silk totem]

So far everything is running as usual without issue, but I'll update my mods as they're released

[vale holly]

I hear people saying that most rebalancing mods should be fine to use with the new patch as GSC basically only rebalanced the Gauss. Problem is I used Maklane’s total overhaul for rebalancing which probably has to go.

Any recommendations for rebalancing mods which doesn’t change too much (AI behavior) that should be safe to use?

[ripe flame]

A lot of small tweaks were made in many cfgs.
Yes, majority of 1.0.3 mods will work, but you are neglecting fixes and features added in 1.1

[ripe flame]

Currently - none. A-Life system was noticeably updated

If you are talking about overall game overhaul, I will release an update to Omega in an hour or less

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1311413765153226762

[vale holly]

Yeah I hear you’re hard at work so it’s probably gonna be Omega. Thanks for being a champ and updating so fast!

[ripe flame]

Does anyone have this weird behaviour where game just stops compiling shaders at about 1/3?

[lusty sail]

I deleted engine.ini and all works

[sinful cypress]

remove the line with the cache in ini, have forgotten which one it was ^^
it´s unter "System Settings"

[wicked wind]

Yep, I have with few UI mods installed.

• ShoCified UI
• Classic Style HUD (Clear Sky Edition)
• Descriptive Consumables
  It is on fully fresh game installation. Removing mods fixes this issue

[ripe flame]

I’ll look into it then later for all my UI mods, including Descriptive Consumables

Something changed, but god knows what. Have no idea yet how to fix

[sinful cypress]

"D3D12.PSO.DriverOptimizedCache=1" if I remove this, I can compile the shaders

[ripe flame]

Ah, thanks. Maybe problem can be solved this way

[magic geyser]

https://github.com/chrisvblemos/stalker2cfg Cfg files bumped to 1.1, if you want to see the diffs or just clone it.

[toxic flower]

No_Shader_Warmup still working for me

btw

[summer tartan]

Need some help using FModel to find gun sounds using the .bnk files. I haven't been able to find IDs that match up

[ripe flame]

Have you tried Ctrl+Shift+F?

[summer tartan]

Yes, but the IDs in the audio folder don't seem to match up to the ones listed in the corresponding .bnk

All I need is the correct folder paths, for both the .bnk files and the audio files

Not sure what I'm doing wrong

[sinful cypress]

The Mod or the entry in the .ini?
ini-entry should always work...

[sand vault]

Alright, got all of my mods updated.

[toxic flower]

The mod

[sand vault]

Anyone have the Stalker 2 "\Stalker2\Config" folder for 1.1 so I can fix the splash screen mod?

[sinful cypress]

The Github link from above?
Or perhaps I misunderstood you here?

[sand vault]

It's only the GameData folder

The Config folder is outside of it

[sinful cypress]

ah, sry

[compact furnace]

Really funny A-Life fix, I just witnessed the game is now spawning encounters around NPCs in the distance so it looks like they got into a fight, instead of spawning them on the player. I watched a warden dude walk around, got into distance to despawn and respawn him in my view over and over and when he started walking towards me again, the game just spawned 3 zombies right in front of him lol Not sure this really is the fix we hoped for, but atleast NPCs do seem more persistent from early testing. Thats a big win for now

Also NPCs in the offline simulation do not seem to move while not being visible, when you see them disappear and reappear they just spawn back in, pulling out their gun every single time and then moving in a different direction from previously

[sand vault]

I figured they'd introduce more issues. It's a complex system that's gonna take some serious hours to get working properly

At least modders now have more to work with

That's the plus here.

[compact furnace]

Surely, Im just always a bit suspiscious about their fixes and A-Life promises generally, Im sure they are trying but claiming to have fixed something that is not fixed in the way they say it is, would be once again dishones. Ill give them the credit when they properly fix it, but for now it looks like they made the spawner better and somehow save some kind of offline location for NPCs, atleast statically

[sand vault]

I think we're gonna see a lot of bandaid fixes until they have more time to figure things out

If they ever do

Imagine what CDPR is having to do to get an entire city full of NPCs working in UE5...

LOL

[compact furnace]

Witcher 4 is gonna be such a huge mess...

[sand vault]

Holy shit. It makes you realize very quickly why they have another studio releasing updates for Cyberpunk 2077 after they said there would be no more updates. Because they know it's going to take them a long time to get the next Cyberpunk game working in this engine.