╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[violet elk]

Gotcha @slim moth

[prisma mist]

Hey!

Would anyone be able to help me with a mod that I added to stalker?

The mod I'm talking about is C con

I added it and it seems to be working all good aside from being very dull and the shadows look like the picture I've added.

Thank you!

Wrong chat lol

[knotty onyx]

Maybe try adjusting your brightness and saturation.

[prisma mist]

That's waht I've been playing around with and they're still just pitch black

[knotty onyx]

Weird

[ornate herald]

I wonder what the % chance for legendaries are because that's my 3rd liquid rock now, 2 compasses, 2 hypercubes, and a thunderberry on veteran difficulty

[warped monolith]

I thought these were one-time only? Or does this only apply to the "Weird" ones like weird bolt and so on

[knotty onyx]

Just the weird ones are unique

[warped monolith]

I see.

[rotund zephyr]

How do I remove all mods from the weapon repair system? I simply want to go to the merchant and repair my items.

[warped monolith]

Are you playing Stalker 2 or GAMMA?

[rotund zephyr]

GAMMA

I'm having trouble repairing items and I want to remove all mods that prevent me from simply going to the item repairer and repairing them.

[warped monolith]

Better ask here then #╟🔰☢newbies-chat, you might get more help

[rotund zephyr]

ok

[warped monolith]

I just read up on the Weird ones and the weird pot has a funny description in the wiki

||Vodka: Vodka.||

[ornate herald]

make sure to save your limited edition energy drinks for using em w/ the weird pot

[warped monolith]

yeah I probably shouldn't have read that because I'm gonna metagame the shit out of that info when I eventually reinstall the game

[ornate herald]

it's just genuinely painful to find out how useful it is after you've already drank 2/3 as I have

[warped monolith]

I can imagine

[knotty onyx]

Ur in the stalker 2 channel big dawg

[warped monolith]

... is there a mod that re-implements the Weird Mirror artifact? I wonder what it does

[icy basin]

Nice filter bypass, dipstick

@slim moth Next time use !mp for multiplayer gamma questions

[summer vapor]

I wish the game had different varieties of emissions, So that it affects the gameplay differently

[haughty furnace]

Stalker-II has the looks down but fumbles everything else

[kindred violet]

What an enlightened opinion, do tell more

[golden hazel]

[pseudo falcon]

kek

[chilly ridge]

Why

[pseudo falcon]

fcking sony
thats why

[finite needle]

Proceeds to make a list of stuff that hasn't been an issue since patch 1.4

[knotty onyx]

If it ran well on more systems it would be a solid like 7-8/10 game.

[final prawn]

Guys I bought stalker 2 but i want to start play with with Lymansk DLC. So when it comes up?

[knotty onyx]

iirc April

[nocturne smelt]

There is no official confirmation on what the dlc is or its release window.

[orchid wave]

Arguably it's either Limansk (radio themed story, teaser transmission near the bridge)
or expedition through iron forest into cnpp.
Hopefully both, but I doubt it

[kindred violet]

Well in CS you went to the cnpp via lymansk so not entirely implausible

[silver orchid]

||are both||

[rotund river]

Need help with this puzzle. Have no idea what to do

[tranquil heath]

1,3,4,2 left to right

[ornate herald]

Yeah idk if there's a clue to that puzzle somewhere, I just got lucky enough to get it first try

[icy basin]

You kinda just try it a few times and go "Oh okay"

[molten orchid]

^ pretty much

[finite needle]

Why is there a random ass merc playing games on his phone while me, aspirante and dvupalov have our chat

[golden hazel]

Boring ahh science talk

He's grinding the battle pass

[finite needle]

The moment Dvupalov mentioned human empathy, he bolted, certified Merc momento.

[nocturne smelt]

Are you using an Alife mod?

[finite needle]

Vanilla since 1.0, never installed a mod even. Bro just wanted to hang around.

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah, It's prob just the revamped needs/wants system combined with them probably controlling a nearby poi.

[finite needle]

I had no idea I had a veles, I have no clue who gave it to me but I'll take it.

[nocturne smelt]

It's a quest reward. I assume you're somewhere around the Duga missions.

Or did them already and never noticed.

[finite needle]

First ward run, I don't remember how you get it as a Spark - but it's surely before you go to X5 if I would make a guess, just the pop in informative system sucks balls in this game.

[nocturne smelt]

You usually get it when you go to Dvupalov to get the psi suppressor blueprints.

[finite needle]

Yeah that could be it, since I posted pictures of that and all.

[nocturne smelt]

Been a long time since I've ever been that far in the story. I find myself restarting a lot around the time I should go to Sircaa.

[finite needle]

Comprehensible. My issue is that I end up going Spark every time because I can't really stomach siding with Ward against Noontide, this time I did it

If I have to pay money to get content between SIRCAA and the endgame so be it, I'm at that point.

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah, Going against Strider Hurts every time. I tend to have the opposite problem. I can't stomach siding with spark knowing what they are.

[finite needle]

Which is fair, but early game they're presented like a stalker faction, not a PMC

I never stay with Spark LONG TERM, I've done their ending and I know what they are

[nocturne smelt]

Idiots?

[finite needle]

||Pretty much Monolith 2.0, or Sin. Can't decide who they are more like||

[nocturne smelt]

|| The main issue is Scar himself. But all the guys following him are fucking stupid for not seeing something is off. They are just buying into the bullshit hook, line, and sinker. ||

[finite needle]

I wonder what's the best way to maximize war crimes, seems Spark is on top for that

[nocturne smelt]

To be fair, Ward doesn't exactly have clean hands either. But they act like an occupying force.

Spark is just fucking nuts.

[finite needle]

Sidin with Ward and annihilating the innocent Noontiders and condamn them to slavery because shiny rocks is very smart.

But that cuts you off from activating the dick smashing machine as Spark

I wish there was a way to do both smh

I think Spark still wins because you get to kill inoffensive, psi fucked Ward soldiers in Zaton

[nocturne smelt]

Icarus?

[finite needle]

the Scar anomaly, the one underground with all the Snorks

[nocturne smelt]

Oh the Claw. That's right.

I never go to that one. Because fuck snorks.

[finite needle]

Oh man you can't imagine what's the mutant that alife director decided to spam in my save!

no bloodsuckers at least, not that many

[nocturne smelt]

Is all of Zaton covered in snorks?

[finite needle]

but i got like DOZENS of snorks

I think once in AW I killed like 20

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah, I have the same issue. My entire Zaton region is all snork spawns.

[finite needle]

Which is exaclty my memory of CoP Zaton to be fair

I think I've seen like 12 porks in total

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah but some spawn diversity would be nice.

There are just too many fucked lairs right now.

[finite needle]

Just remove the rat swarm

I beg you GSC

I hate the rat swarms

[nocturne smelt]

The world spawn rat swarms?

[finite needle]

yes

[nocturne smelt]

They are annoying if you don't have grenades.

[finite needle]

but even if you have they're not exaclty a barrel of fun

[nocturne smelt]

I usually just sprint away and underhand a grenade behind me. Usually takes care of them.

I had 5 different rat swarm spawns going into southern Duga for a stash the other day.

[finite needle]

Just delete them, it's all I ask GSC

I hate them

[nocturne smelt]

They need to fix the lairs. Whatever they did to increase quantity in the zone really backfired.

Have you tried to go back to Wild Island post sircaa through the main entrance?

[finite needle]

Not through the main entrance, but now that you say it I really don't want to go

[nocturne smelt]

hold on, let me try to find my SS.

It's hard to see but make it big and try to count them lol.

[finite needle]

That's a lot of monos

[nocturne smelt]

Looked like the Orakai marching out of Isengard.

They never stopped.

[finite needle]

very weird

let me just get an exo and a fully upgraded kharod first

[nocturne smelt]

Exo and a PKM lol.

[finite needle]

You can't mount and underbarrel shotgun under a PKM

not yet at least hmmm

[nocturne smelt]

Omg that would be ridiculous lol.

[finite needle]

You can get all the tacticool shit, let me have the stupid hell yeah attachments

[nocturne smelt]

The m700 with the master key is still the most cursed shit ever.

[slim moth]

hep meh

[nocturne smelt]

Interesting pose for him to be stuck in. It’s like his body lost all weight variables.

[slim moth]

i walked a couple feet away and come back and he's like this lmao

he gave up

lack of persistent corpses intensifies

[hardy crest]

I greatly enjoy the wacky poses that corpses end up in

If they could just stop falling through the ground or hanging into it by their feet though, that'd be great

[nocturne smelt]

Then getting catapulted out of it when they re render.

[icy basin]

I've had a couple corpses arrive to me by air like it's some gmod ytp bit

Like they got launched by something at me

[finite needle]

Fine, I'll go get the kharod, at least now I have a believable excuse to go grab it

[true yew]

Is there a known bug about the elks spaws in this area at duga? Istg, these pairs spawned everytime I load into the area

[finite needle]

Maybe it's intended, there are a couple of respawning pseudogiants in Bloodsucker village (great pun by the way thanks GSC very cool) and that hasn't been fixed yet.

btw the new settlement near Duga is really great for when you start exploring that area for missions and whatnot

[true yew]

It is an elk spawn, but this frequent? Damn, I wish malachite was asking for their horns

[finite needle]

Yeah maybe every reload isn't intended

[true yew]

Prolly should stay that way, makes it more fun for farming

[pseudo falcon]

you use oxa prototype?

[nocturne smelt]

That is a deer lair.

[true yew]

Nope, all vanilla except modular saves

[pseudo falcon]

you dont like oxa standard?

coz at least you can mount more attachment on guns

even unique guns you can change the attachments, which normally you cant on vanilla

meanwhile i can use the glutton in gamma coz someone made it there lol

[true yew]

It's not that I don't like it, more like I'm too dumb to fuck and account mods like that confidently

[pseudo falcon]

oh
yeah, if u dont know how, you will only get frustrated
coz latest patch of oxa standard/prototype
vanilla supressors are now useless

[true yew]

Also I'm doing my first runs vanilla, so maybe when I do another run

Oh my god, where has this mod been all my life

I'll def use it on my next run

[pseudo falcon]

u dont mind that vanilla supressors that you find in the world and sold to traders are now useless?
altho the new ones will be sold on traders i think
im still on zalissiya so i cant say atm

my only gripe about the game is i cant reload while sprinting
or heal while sprinting

[true yew]

As if the stealth works most of the time, the most I got out of supressors was at the duga assault mission where I saved tons of ammo from oneshotting monos

And that was supposed to be the loud part of the mission

[pseudo falcon]

i can sometimes stealth kill a group

[pseudo falcon]

btw you also have the ultimate edition eh?
coz that shotgun is only obtainable on pripyat iirc

or am i wrong

[true yew]

Oh yeah, still bummed that most of its content are just reskins

[pseudo falcon]

they are unique variants coz some of them you cant change the scopes
its why i use oxa

[true yew]

Good point

[icy basin]

Malachite is in the red icons now
Cool
They still buy everything for more than the DLC camp folks
Man

[finite needle]

Malachite still looks richer than a brunch of squatters in the middle of death zone

[icy basin]

You'd think they specialise in mutant parts and artifacts
Oh well, worth the trip

[finite needle]

The camp still offers early tier 3 equipment upgrades, gives you fast travel options and covers a huge area that was left uncovered, just pay the 700 bitcoins and teleport

Honestly I don't know why a bartender would buy a dead dog's badly cut nose but that's just me

"I've got something for you, toenails. But very big, like a dinosaur"

[rotund river]

Need tips how to fucking defeat Faust on the roof of Duga.........2 hrs......it's kinda random i don't get the idea

[ornate herald]

Kazkoyvi camp are my beloved no slandering Kazkoyvi they turned the red forest from a shit hole to must visit destination

[ornate herald]

Shoot all three glowing emitters on the roof, then shoot the one on his hip, you'll know which one is the real Faust cus his emitter will be on and have a damage glow if you've hit it, it's acc really easy when you know what to shoot at

Beat the fight in like a minute

[nocturne smelt]

Hit him in the crotch with an RPG.

[rotund river]

Не матюкайся.....що за в бога душу мать емітери н адаху?

[rotund river]

Billy approves.....press "F"

[icy basin]

You mean burnt forest?

Comically, you can beat Faust in like 1 minute

[ornate herald]

so true

[icy basin]

The game does give you a machine gun just before you reach him, at least if you play Ward

150 rounds does wonders for magdumping his little emitter point blank

[ornate herald]

Yeah when I understood how to beat him on my 4th try and just hip fired my way through it with a kharod I was shocked I beat him

[icy basin]

It becomes comedically easy, if you don't get stunlocked between pulling your gun out and having to outheal the gunfire

[ornate herald]

Hardest part of Stalker 2 veteran difficulty is Skif being the slowest draw in the West whenever you're exiting a cutscene

[icy basin]

Heal the brainwashed Warden
Have to go with stabbing him because that's the fastest draw outta cutscenes

[rotund river]

For the fuck-sake......How I'v supposed to kill Faust..........

[stoic lichen]

Grenade launcher :3

Lots and lots of explosives.

[rotund river]

at first glanct and + its impossible

[ornate herald]

You just gotta break the glowing emitters

[rotund river]

have nont

*noe

[rotund river]

oO

[ornate herald]

• the one on his belt

[rotund river]

too bad admins restricted post of scrennshots and videos.......

sorre Paddy your goddamn wrong

[warped monolith]

#╟📸stalker2™-media

oh wait

I think you might just need to level up a bit

I can post images here at least

[rotund river]

Gratz, but i...

[rotund river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGDzdRJP2w8

🙂

[ornate herald]

But I did it myself

!!

[cerulean cargo]

S T A L K E R. S=stelfy T=tactykal A=analisys L=loyal K=krupnik E=effective R=radioactive

[stoic lichen]

Ah… that mod.

[slim moth]

it was updated 😭

i was hoping it would die

i think i remember we aren't supposed to mention it but it's so god damn wild to me

[stoic lichen]

Ah shit you right.

(Why did I delete those messages, they’re still gonna be in a backup for mods to see lol.)

[slim moth]

they'll see we try to unfuck ourselves lol

[pseudo falcon]

S=Scavengers T=Trespassers A=Adventurers L=Loners K=Killers E=Explorers R=Robbers

[cerulean cargo]

oooo

mush more sens

[neon kite]

whos got a good reshade for a laptop, I can run base stalker 2 but its got some stutters

[warped monolith]

Soyjaks
Terfs
Aspies
Losers
Kekistanis
Edgelords
Retards

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker2-scar-laugh-gif-12786287499780353633

[warped monolith]

damn I'm doing numbers

[nocturne smelt]

Comment of the week.

[pseudo falcon]

i wanted to like oxa prototype
but it feels like even if i have max physical resistance
it doesnt matter lol

[neon kite]

anyone got a good faction id mod that actually shows the id and not me having to press a button every time

[cinder sleet]

Alright…

I’m not going crazy. This fucker doesn’t die?

OH FUCK

I’m confused… I killed a controller. I guess that’s what’s controlling it, but still moving? No other controllers I don’t think

[nocturne smelt]

Try shooting it where its head should be.

[brazen vortex]

@trim sandal Hi bossman saw your Base Building & Temperature mod freakin cool! cant wait to just chill in your own crib after a long day in the zone🫡

[trim sandal]

Thanks 🙂

[cinder sleet]

That entire area was a nightmare but I made it…

https://tenor.com/view/soldier-ww2-traumatized-meme-eyes-gif-12257475272172704406

[cinder sleet]

Pretty sure OXA does that

You can toggle it

[cinder sleet]

Just took Monolith for a spin

https://tenor.com/view/rub-face-fabolous-make-me-better-song-touch-face-getting-ready-gif-18816273

[cinder sleet]

These AI reworks are terrible

I’m in a room with 40 Terminators

[digital cape]

Guys trying to install OXA Prototype using vortex. And my all mods are here but OXA is not working any help ?

[cinder sleet]

Wish I could help. Manual install is much cleaner and faster imo. Try that

[digital cape]

Oh okay but how can ı manage load loader and how can ı install manual ?

[cinder sleet]

Idk anything about MLL but manual install is as simple as dragging and dropping in the appropriate folder

[neon kite]

did you make a new save?

[cinder sleet]

Ohhh yeeeaa! ^^^^^

OXA requires new game

[cinder sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-crown-jim-dwight-office-gif-7199556891134687482

[digital cape]

Yep already try that

New game , but weapon cond. and other things not showing up

[cinder sleet]

Yeah, I would try a manual install

[neon kite]

other than a new save, make sure if you do them manually put then in the sSteam\steamapps\common\S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Heart of Chornobyl\Stalker2\Content\Paks~mods folder

[digital cape]

Okay let me check that vortex do that step for me always and the other mods just working fine.

[neon kite]

oh you also have stalker unlimited on

its either oxa standard w/ unlimited, or only oxa prototype

[cinder sleet]

Happy Sunday Gaming boys 🤝

[digital cape]

Oh okay one more question

Too many option which one ım gonna check ?

[neon kite]

all of them

[digital cape]

Thanks a lot sir !

[digital cape]

Guys me again , NPC Combat Overhaul and OXA Prototype is comp eachother ? And ı don't understand load order between these 2 mods. I used Stalker Unlimited and NPC Combat Overhaul npc's is really clever and nice combat system. But now OXA and NPC Combat overhaul they are really feels like easy. Am ı doing something Wrong ? Last two mods on the load order.

[ornate herald]

102 hours later and the game is beaten

[keen parrot]

do you guys enjoy s2

[hearty orchid]

Does the game compile shaders every time it loads?

[arctic shell]

Yeah

but its faster after the first time

[digital cape]

Yep Modlist is compated , no crashes etc. But ı would like to ask you guys is my load order is ok ?

[hearty orchid]

Alright, thank you

[nocturne smelt]

Vortex load order doesn’t really do much in Stalker 2. Most mods that require to be loaded after or before something usually have _xx_P at the end of the file name. XX being a number. Higher numbers load later.

You’re going to run into most issues if you have 2 mods changing the same parameters in a CFG. Mods using bpatch tend to have less issues but it doesn’t eliminate them entirely.

[digital cape]

So best solution is manuel modding ı guess ?

[nocturne smelt]

That is the recommended method currently, Yes. We are still waiting for a proper mod manager to be developed or for something like mod organizer 2 to get a stalker 2 plugin.

That being said. A lot of people use vortex and don’t have problems. It can just be really funky sometimes if you start removing mods and forget to purge and re deploy after any changes.

Since vortex has a tendency to leave latent files behind.

If you are manually installing. Most mod pages will let you know if something needs to load after something else. And is usually achieved by changing or adding the _xx_P naming convention.

[cinder sleet]

I’m having fun. After 20+ years of gaming it’s going to be my first attempt at a video edit with all the clips and screens I’m getting

Once I finish the game

[dusty dove]

I wish it was on the MO2 teams to do list but it is not. I use MO2 alot. Unofficially folks have made MO2 plugins but I doubt it gets official support anytime soon.

[nocturne smelt]

Agreed. It’s the GSC side that’s holding it up.

[dusty dove]

this looks to be the closest thing I can find - https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1424

[dusty dove]

GSC is holding it up

[vestal veldt]

saw posting nexus links in discord will be bannable

[dusty dove]

not true

[vestal veldt]

fake news?

[dusty dove]

alot of false info goes around

I think it had to do something with sony or something i am not exactly sure

[nocturne smelt]

It was one guy who got banned. It seemed to be based on Sony tagging links related to their IPs. The whole thing got blown out of proportion.

The guy in question who was banned seemed to try to shift the blame away from himself but he was doing some shady stuff with Sony IPs or something.

I would not worry about posting nexus links for stalker content.

[blazing light]

Nice that good to hear

[ivory trail]

So... just finished my first run of stalker 2, and now i wonder, how much of a hot take is it to think it is quite disapointing and the boss battles suck and shouldnt be in a stalker game?

Also feck the blood suckers and the boars.

Oh and those rat swarms that need grenades to be properly killed while give nothing in return.

[tired schooner]

Not big fan of the ending either

[ivory trail]

I mean... the endings are fine, my disappointment comes more from the lack of ambition when it comes to new weird stuff in the zone. New mutants, new weird landscapes.

I mean remember this guy? I was waiting for him.

https://i.redd.it/its-a-shame-that-they-werent-added-to-the-game-as-planned-v0-suugb2sr3b3e1.jpg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce4f88e2f5b0d0d4d4c552b51cb3f9e692206382

But nope, technically there is even just a single new mutant, the psi deer. Because the cat, did exist before and was just cut.

Why didnt we got more stuff like the claw anomaly, the scar, the boiler? Stuff we already had in CoP.

And SIRCAA really didnt help, i mean they can control anomalies? Create artefacts? And emissions have before such a joke that they have giant emission proof glass windows all over the place? WFT?

So compared to all this? The endings are the smaller problem to me.

[tired schooner]

That's old stalker 2

[ivory trail]

Does that makes it better? I dont think so.

[warped monolith]

new bad old good

[ornate herald]

The boss battles were kinda jank yeah, but tbh I liked all of them except for Scar, was fun to fight other Stalkers that utilise artifacts to be OP like the player and I thought Faust was thematically fitting

[ivory trail]

Scar was just the worst. The amount of ammunition i did pump into him was just unreal.

Since when have 24th century battle space ship shields have become a man portable thing in the stalke universe that no one ever talked about?

[ornate herald]

All you need are three shots of a gauss it's just surviving his go go gadget laser beam while you figure out his gimmick that sucked ass

[ivory trail]

Which imo just makes the boss battle even worse.

They just dont belong in a stalker game.

[ornate herald]

Eh fair, I found the gimmicks the best part tbh and quite fitting for the game for you to encounter an enemy you can't just shoot your way past, I've always felt like Stalker was about fighting smarter, not harder

[warped monolith]

scripted boss fights don't belong in a stalker game?
shit better remove that pseudogiant fight from shadow of chernobyl

[ornate herald]

It was nice to not have my RPG and Gauss gun be an easy answer to everything

I do think they should have let you access your stash or something between Strelok and Scar or smth though, fuck me Granite squad was scary with my exo's durability in the 70%'s

[ivory trail]

You mean the one in the sewer tunnel after X16? That is simply just a pseudo giant. Not a pseudo giant with a shield that makes it invincible until you figure out you have to push some buttons at the correct time.

[ornate herald]

I left my pair of compasses at home

[warped monolith]

alright, fine
shuffles cards
Eidolon.

oh wait that's anomaly

[ivory trail]

So i will die on that hill, that stalker never had anything like those stupid boss battles.

[warped monolith]

[ivory trail]

There were hards fights sure.

[ornate herald]

I'm looking forward to playing again when they flesh out Freedom vs Duty and hopefully have modder support

[ivory trail]

I still remember how scary burer were before i did find the easy rythm to take them out.

[warped monolith]

might take a while until they add more freedom/duty content

game seemed very focused on the newer factions

[ivory trail]

But a burer was a burer was a burer.

That never changed and is true for everything we ever did encounter.

[ornate herald]

True but the new factions all serve their purpose in the current story and have their arcs, I feel like there's not much else to get out of Spark/Ward than we have

[warped monolith]

the "unique monster added as a boss then becomes a regular monster later in the game" trope

https://klipy.com/gifs/yoda-no

[ivory trail]

I dont think it actually did a particularly good job at that either. Here is noon-tide and you spend a few minutes with them before: Noon-tide is Monolith again.

[ornate herald]

Noontide was definitely a missed opportunity to have at least one or two of them kicking around after the Signal

[warped monolith]

they couldn't tank the idi ko mne

https://klipy.com/gifs/akira-leave-me-alone-3

[ivory trail]

I dont even think that would have been needed, but... they could have been fleshed out a bit more. Like let us stay with them for a while, do side quest for them. Lear what they are actually about.

Like make the 9th we meet in the lesser zone an actually recurring character if we dont kill him.

[ornate herald]

You do see him again later on in the game tbf

Just not as a friend

Which made me sad 🙁

[ivory trail]

Yeah, i have read, but... i never saw him on wild island and i looked and i am sure i killed in that monolith hospital without even noticing it was him.

So from my play experience he fecked off after his quest in the lesser zone and never did appear again.

[ornate herald]

Yeah I snuck in and he was in the room just before the regenerator, praying in a trance in front of a wounded monolith

[ivory trail]

Yeah, i did read about this. I didnt notice, i might have even checked his corps without notice it was him.

[ornate herald]

RIP my boy...

[ivory trail]

And tbh, even if i had noticed, it had been too long, so all emotional impact that might have on me was completely lost even if i had noticed.

[ornate herald]

I did like the whole Zombie on the roof side quest for Noontide and how it relates to them being Monolith again, and since I spared the Zombie I didn't kill anyone in the hospital because if they escaped the Monolith once they could do so again, in that regard I thought the hospital mission and seeing the 9th brainwashed again was really well done

[ivory trail]

Well, it completely failed for me. Nice you had a nice experience, but... that clearly wasnt the same for everyone.

[warped monolith]

is skif's pistol still OP as fuck in the early game? I remember using it so much I was constantly running out of 9x18

[ivory trail]

I would guess, the PTM is the first weapon you get a silencer for. I was actually more annoyed i couldnt remove the damn thing later when i stopped using it.

[silver orchid]

don't there lack of ambition

For a long time the problem was lack of a proper organisation and communication between the devs

[ivory trail]

So they ended up cutting corners and didnt even bother to actually create interesting landscapes and mutants.

[silver orchid]

About "interesting landscapes", supposedly there a refference to Darkscape in-game (besides cordon in HoC) that was planned to be a location full of storms or smth

[ivory trail]

When it isnt in the game, it isnt real.

They should have take it a step up from CoP. With the claw and that kind of stuff.

And they didnt.

[ornate herald]

Stalker 2 has the best Zone out there wdym no interesting landscapes, theres the Duga, Cement Factory, the arch anomalies, quarry in the red forest etc

[silver orchid]

"But the mountains bro, the mountains bro, trust me bro, the mountains fill the zone bro, real zone is boring bro, realistic zone is retarded bro"

[ornate herald]

There's loads more to see and explore, they even brought truck cemetery into the game in the Chemical Plant

[ivory trail]

Oh the duga, that basically just looks like the brain scorcher, or the quarry we already had in CoP. Cool, so they were able to copy past the stuff from the old games.

You see me really unimpressed.

[ornate herald]

Also tbf they might have been "cutting corners" what with the whole Russian invasion and having to move the majority of the devs to (I think) Vienna while a few devs still work in Ukraine

If I could do one thing to the gaming industry it would be to give GSC the grace for Stalker 2 that CDProjekt got for their scam Cyberpunk game

[ivory trail]

Yeah, sorry, but that is an excuse for a delay of the release. But not an excuse for the final product and the lack of actually new interesting landscapes as we have seen in CoP. Or just a single actual new mutant, the psi deer.

[silver orchid]

Would be cool see Truck Cemetery on a place more faithful to his real location or Truck Cemetery mixed with Garbage/Dark Valley

[ivory trail]

I also used up that excuse for the buggy mess the game still currently is.

[ornate herald]

True, but idm it being in the Chemical plant since I like the idea that the Zone's routes change because the landscape itself shifts after grand emissions

But that's just me

[ivory trail]

This fecking anomaly door in the pripyat cinema still gives me nightmares.

[silver orchid]

Eeehhh, if well Radar and the Radar on Limansk are inspired on DUGA, isn't explicit or mentioned in design documents that are DUGA so they can add DUGA

[ivory trail]

And by anomal door i mean that thing was totally bugged out and almost did softlock my progress.

[ivory trail]

Yeah? With all their map shuffling i didnt even realise first that this wasnt suppose to be the brain scorcher.

The point that we have seen this before stands.

[warped monolith]

poppy field also looked quite fascinating imo... felt like I wasn't even in chornobyl anymore with all those pretty red flowers

[ornate herald]

And Mist was genuinely scary for me, def my favourite arch anomaly

[ivory trail]

Oh yeah, the poppy field, that actually just made it worse for me, because it actually gave me hope and let me look forward to all the other weird and interesting stuff out there...

[silver orchid]

Radar is the Brain Scorcher and that, but DUGA isn't the same thingi and viceversa

[ivory trail]

Oh cool, so most of that stuff is just from older stalker games?

[warped monolith]

you have a negative take even on things you thought were good

sheesh. Sucks to be you I guess

[silver orchid]

Poopy field is from the old stalker 2, same case with zalesie

[ivory trail]

Oh i see. So you point is "i liked the game, your opinion is invalid".

[ornate herald]

Me when I play Stalker 2 "Why does this resemble the other Stalker games set in the same Zone and not Halo "

[ivory trail]

Yeah, but it isnt from a previous released game, so i give them the poppy field.

Poppy is original. But... there just aint much beyond that.

[warped monolith]

Nah I just can't take you seriously after saying something you thought was good results in a negative takeaway

I got a meme for this, hold on.

[ivory trail]

Oh... so the concept of getting your expectations up to have them disapointed is alien to you? I see.

[ornate herald]

Bayun and Hornhead are two new mutants, Chemical Plant, Malachite, Burnt Forest, Cooling Towers and Cement Factory, all the arch anomalies are all new compared to the original trilogy, it seems like you may have set your expectations too high if there's nothing original abt the game to you beyond poppy field

[silver orchid]

For a lot of people HoC was and is a deception to em, is normal, apart 14 years between the release of CoP and HoC generate a great hype.

[ivory trail]

Eh, i dont count the cat. It was been as a cut mutant /model as stuffed animal since SoC.

I give them deer, and the deer was fun.

[ornate herald]

So? We never got to see them in any of the games outside of mods

[ivory trail]

Did encounter a whole two of them over the whole game.

What a let down.

[silver orchid]

Yes, anyways, most of the interesting mutants that GSC planned add for HoC are recreations of discarded mutants

[summer vapor]

I think the hills that serve as location boundaries could be made more varied, more interesting

[ivory trail]

And i think we should have more stuff like the claw. New claws. Or maybe even some interesting landscape story telling, like a tank deformed like it was just made of clay.

Or one with a hole right trough it like something super powerful moved right trough it like it wasnt even there.

[silver orchid]

I think that the problem itself isn't from don't have a lot, is from that the map is tooo BIGGGGGGGGGGGG

[ivory trail]

Or maybe a water mutant, wouldnt even needed to be an actual creature, just like something that did catch and kill you when you did fall into water.

[silver orchid]

Like

Zaton is a BIG example of have unnecesary space

Always was a example of that

A lot of empty space without smth to do

[ivory trail]

And also too empty. Like think of how much you just walk around without anything interesting to see.

[silver orchid]

Yeah, that's how Zaton is since CoP

[ivory trail]

I am still confused about the location of zaton or the clear sky swamp.

That did really mess with my brain.

Or how the way we took in the past to reach yantar basically just did lead to the same road we did enter rostok... that was... well the whole map layout was really confusing. Probably a total non issue for new player, but it did really mess with me.

[silver orchid]

Zaton got a lot of interesting new locations but suffers the same thingi than the OG

And Marsh, got a downgrade and that's it, less locations

[ivory trail]

Too much swamp you have to walk around unless you want to go in snail speed?

Jupiter was also... well lets just say i did walk trough it once.

I mean there was just not really a point to do anything else.

I had enough supplies and monies to just finish the game straight up after reaching pripyat.

[warped monolith]

as a matter of fact, yeah. I always keep them as low as possible, no matter what.

[ivory trail]

And now that i think about it, i never did go take a look at sircaa after it got fecked up. Is there anything interesting to find there?

[silver orchid]

i don't get why was good idea for GSC put Marsh below Zaton

works soooo well besides Cordon or even Zalesie

[ivory trail]

It wasnt. Where it is right now is a terrible place, did go in once did the quest and never did visit again.

Oh... you cant even enter sircaa without a glitch again?

Lame!

[stoic lichen]

I don’t know if it’s just me, but I often struggle taking negative criticism seriously sometimes.

Mostly because videos about something that’s negative always seem to be designed as engagement bait.

[ivory trail]

I am a video to you?

[stoic lichen]

No…?

[summer vapor]

I want more territories where the land is scorched; deserted

[ivory trail]

Well at least something.

[ivory trail]

That would have been something.

[warped monolith]

either that or people are just looking for things to complain about from the onset. So they're obviously gonna find those things.

[stoic lichen]

I think the Burnt Forest nearly gets close to that idea. Red Forest as well.

[ivory trail]

Meh, burned forest feels just like a lot of uninspired fire anomalies.

[ivory trail]

Cool, and people like you look to me like always whining like "your critique does ruin my enjoyment, stop it now!"

[warped monolith]

Wasn't talking to you but ok buddy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/912320242301149215/1420574384887959633/avowed_moment.mp4?ex=696f7b3e&is=696e29be&hm=2b64f7e3d2e810464a1ec621f67253035fb7f96ca8402e295ce9cb62023c8987&

[ivory trail]

Yeah, i dont even know why you bother with those videos, because i am not gonna bother watching them.

[warped monolith]

bro thinks this entire chat channel is about him

[ivory trail]

Yeah, right, how could i think that videos you post while talking to me are directed towards me?

I guess it makes sense if i dont think about it.

[ivory trail]

Anyway, problem solved.

[warped monolith]

https://klipy.com/gifs/free-75

one less retard in my discord

[ivory trail]

Btw now that i think about it, maybe putting the fire storm from the colling towers into the burning forest could have made it more interesting.

At least it wouldnt feel so much like a random joke. Like lol rofl cooling tower with a fire tornado.

Ha ha, that is a good one dad.

[stoic lichen]

?

[ivory trail]

Because a fire tornado in a "cooling" tower feels like a dad joke.

Sorry forgot the one, maybe now it makes more sense.

[stoic lichen]

It’s supposed to be an interesting set piece. Like all arch anomalies.

[ivory trail]

But in the burned forest it would at least fit into the setting. Because fire.

[stoic lichen]

I thought the house in the fog was a cool set piece.

[ivory trail]

Fog?

[stoic lichen]

My bad, Mist.

The location of that is called Mist.

[ivory trail]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YZ2oiR3mU84/hqdefault.jpg

Huh, will you look at that. I never even found this one.

Probably would have helped to not hide it so close to the border of the map. I died too often to high radiation when trying to explore that close to the fog on the map that i no longer even did bother when finally did enter the forest.

[stoic lichen]

Yeah, fair enough.

[silver orchid]

A third oasis

[stoic lichen]

Honestly, I prefer more urban areas to fight in.

[warped monolith]

I've always been a fan of red forest and other spots with dense vegetation, showing how nature heals no matter what

[ivory trail]

Yeah... pripyat in the past was always a lot of fun. But... i have to say this time? When i finally did reach it, i was pretty done with game. I think it would have been better if we were allowed in it sooner.

[silver orchid]

And also the trilogy don't had many "forest-ish" areas, Red Forest and a couple more of areas in Garbage, Agroprom, Jupiter and not much more

[summer vapor]

?

[ivory trail]

Btw garbage has become so boring. Where are the big piles of scrap? If the map wouldnt have told me, i would have never guessed this was suppose to be garbage.

[silver orchid]

I think that this image fits with "scorched and deserted", i don't know if it's a recreation of x place of x CGI scene from SoC

[warped monolith]

looks more like a part of the great swamp to me

[ivory trail]

i mean it looks like concept art.

[warped monolith]

if you had told me this is the loading screen art for great swamp in CS I'd believe you

[summer vapor]

Without immersive quests, even the most unique locations tend to slip from memory

[silver orchid]

A level designer of Garbage planned make Garbage smth like this:

[ivory trail]

sigh And look what we got instead.

[silver orchid]

I believe that was and is a mistake don't put truck cemetery in Garbage, with that u have this region much more interesting visually and fits with that in the OGs GSC added a mini-truck cemetery, then replace that by "truck cemetery 1:1" will be a proper addition

[ivory trail]

I mean the whole map layout did just mess with me. I constantly did look for landmarks that should be at least close to place X, but they werent close at place Y.

[silver orchid]

I guess that have Truck Cemetery besides Yantar it's ok but would have been much better expand the factory itself for add interesting places, missed opportunity

[ivory trail]

I also think it is a missed opportunity to not allow us to visit the old x labs we know from the past. I mean they wouldnt need to be important to the plot, just make them a random "dungeon". I tried to enter the brain scorcher, closed, i tried to enter X-16, closed and after that... i just gave up.

It would have been nice to visit those places.

[silver orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[ivory trail]

Huh? Wdm?

Spill the beans!

[ivory trail]

Speak or i will sent a hedgehog from the zone to eat you!

[visual minnow]

has there been any news on when we're getting the engine update?
I haven't been keeping up

[warped monolith]

Nope. Still a pipedream or an outright lie

[knotty onyx]

||you track down strelok in an X lab. X18 iirc||

[slim moth]

the negative criticism just isnt valid in most cases.

as seen above lol

[stoic lichen]

THAT’S MY ISSUE! Remember a time where the collective consensus around video game discussions wasn’t dictated by Redditors pissing and shitting loud enough?

[slim moth]

Most people bitch about vanilla stuff mods already fixed so it's irrelevant to me. and then stuff that is still bitched about we know is going to get fixed. so really not much construction in bitching and moaning about the game atm.

what ever is missing, mods can add back in when zone kit is finished.

so either wait till the game is complete and jump back in or accept the jank and follow it along the way

[stoic lichen]

We had variety! We had nuance! We had different opinions!

Now it’s just people whoring themselves out for digital points and karma farming!

[slim moth]

this game bad, i had bad time
multiple people had a good time
nah it's a bad time not worth it

maybe just play a different game idk what to tell ya

[stoic lichen]

We’re living in times where people will call your slurs for DARING to do something as…

enjoying a thing you like

[slim moth]

wow i like GAMMA in the GAMMA discord server.

HOW DARE YOU

idk. people are weird.

[rotund latch]

Does Stalker 2 have any mods like Gamma that make it worth playing? In particular the baseline A-life systems were nonexistent when I played it at launch. Also the progression balance was totally off. I’m aware that it has revived some official patches on that front.

[slim moth]

you can look at oxa standard or prototype since it has economic changes and overhaul to weapons/ballistics that makes every weapon useful. if you want gamey progression but still overhauled, you can go with stalker unlimited. there is also a-life found a way and shays living zone that compliment both of those pretty well.

oxa standard works with stalker unlimited as well.

[drowsy umbra]

If you want GAMMA gameplay, play GAMMA

Stalker 2 is very much story focused and doesnt offer that much of a sandbox, yes OXA and other mods help but still

if you think Stalker 2 is not worth to play because its not GAMMA, well, then play GAMMA

because Stalker 2 is never going to deliver the same experience

[slim moth]

i wouldn't say never.

[drowsy umbra]

but at the current moment its highly unlikely for the foreseeable future

[slim moth]

I get what you mean. an official gamma 2 is not going to be worked on, but i don't see why some of the mods/features it has couldn't be implemented.

shit most of the stuff in GAMMA wasn't even made for gamma

[drowsy umbra]

the issue with stalker 2 is that it is too focused on the main story and does offer little if you leave the story path

[slim moth]

zonekit phase 3 will have quest tools so i would think people would immediately jump on making their own quests. I imagine dlc's and future official updates will add even more quests/features.

i speculate that the engine update is taking the priority right now, which is the right call. im sure content will fall into place after that

[silver orchid]

according to datamining

HoC is going to have a option to customize options like:
Parameters of NPCS
Emissions
Anomalies

[slim moth]

that'll be really cool if true.

can make your zone a chaotic warzone or keep it isolated.

[ivory trail]

Oh... he didnt read? He didnt read.

Yeah, but seriously, that aint what i was talking about. I was talking about the old X labs we know from other games. Not that we visit some X labs during the game. Because yeah, i know that. I finished the game.

I was disappointed that all those locations we know exist are just closed of. And i think it would have been nice if we could enter them. Wouldnt even need to be for a quest. Just exploring shit. Exploring shit in a open world is fun.

Give me more to explore.

[hardy crest]

what's wrong with the inside of ||noontide's base||? this can't have been the intended number of spawns

and they're still coming

im shocked my game hasnt crashed at this point

[ivory trail]

Spawns? What spawns? The mercs? Iirc there were just four of those for me.

Well those four mercs and one or two bloodsucker before that.

[hardy crest]

nah this is way later in the game, this is all monolith

they seem to be infinite spawning

im legit going to run out of ammo

[ivory trail]

Oh, they fill up their base later in the game?

Not sure i ever bothered to enter it after that side mission with the emitter.

[hardy crest]

i must have killed at least 100 of them by now no joke, and they are still funneling down

[ivory trail]

Yeah, that clearly sounds like a broken spawner.

[hardy crest]

i would love to go loot them all but if the spawns never stop ill never get the chance

[ivory trail]

Well, that would be a nice pay check with your stash so close by.

Still remember the times when my "stash" was just covering the floor in the 100 rads bar. 😅

[hardy crest]

yeah thankfully i just remembered there's still a functional stash box close by, so i was able to resupply on ammo and medkits

and get a save in

im going to keep at this for awhile and see if it ever ends or if my game ends up crashing from all the bodies

[ivory trail]

Good luck!

[hardy crest]

it seems to have slowed down a bit, am able to loot between one guy walking in occasionally

this is a very very small portion of the carnage

[ivory trail]

Yeah, that is a lot.

[kindred violet]

Lmao

Using any mods?

[hardy crest]

no mods at all

im just shocked the game can handle this many bodies + me dropping all their loot i dont want onto the ground without crashing

honestly i was just revisiting the tunnel north of the base to collect the artifact, and decided to come through here again to get out, so this was all a happy accident

[kindred violet]

Then I would imagine it's a bugged behaviour with the new lair/base system they've implemented

Same as you can get hordes of bloodsuckers spawn in a location

[hardy crest]

sounds plausible, i havent played in several major updates, i wanna say 1.2 or maybe even 1.1?

so im not really caught up on what all theyve added and changed since then

[kindred violet]

Quite a bit haha

[hardy crest]

just randomly decided last week it was time for another playthrough

[ivory trail]

Is that why the lesser zone got flooded by bloodsuckers after i left it the first time?

Because i returned to get some stashes down there and i had to kill at least one blood sucker every 50 meter when i did.

And this really became annoying very fast.

[hardy crest]

if i had to make a somewhat uneducated guess, it sounds like their spawn system is just adding more spawns every time no matter what, instead of checking if any existing ones need to be replaced

and also checking too frequently and while the player is too close

[ivory trail]

Either way +100 doesnt feel like intended.

[hardy crest]

for sure, but its what id expect to see if it was spawning a new squad in addition to the existing ones every time i got within some distance of the base

[ivory trail]

Reminds me a bit of those old NES games, where just scroling the screen one pixel back and forth again would respawn the enemy.

[hardy crest]

yeah, thats basically what i assume is happening

except its also not checking if that enemy is dead and needs to be respawned, its just adding another one every time

[ivory trail]

Probably just would need a single line of code changed, or maybe even just a true to false or something like that.

[hardy crest]

i was considering delving into modding the game soon anyway, as there's a few things id like to change for myself to promote the gamma-style freeplay a little more, and existing overhauls kind of cover some of it but also do a lot more things i dont really want

maybe this lair spawning issue is something i could find and fix

but, i also dont know the limitations/restrictions that come with the current tools and capabilities we have available

so, stuff to look into in any case

[kindred violet]

Not quite correct, the lair spawning is tied to "victories" against attackers iirc

This is why this only really became an issue with the strong mutants as NPC squads would just get wiped easily

And it would snowball

[ivory trail]

Strong mutants? I have seen a single rat swarm wipe out a whole group of stalkers multiple times.

The AI just cant handle them.

[kindred violet]

Well, the rat swarm is not supposed to be in the open world except very specifically places occasions

[ivory trail]

Personally i dont think it should be in the open world at all.

[kindred violet]

Tbf I might misremember them appearing in the open world at all

I know some alife mods make it so that can happen

[ivory trail]

Well i didnt saw them often, but a few times. Once in the lesser zone, near sphere in that swampy area.

[kindred violet]

I've only ever encountered one in pripyat near the ferris wheel

But I don't think that one was manually placed like the ones you find in underground sections

[ivory trail]

Another time was oh i dont remember... it might be the vehicle grave yard or another place with those barbed wire fences.

[kindred violet]

But yeah, with you on that

They're annoying for non enclosed spaces

[ivory trail]

I also remember a swarm some where underground i use a grenade and i did wipe out the swarm, with the exception of a single rat and i didnt wanted to waste another grenade... but i had to, because i couldnt kill that single rat.

I couldnt hit it with buckshot, or my pistol, or a whole mag from my assault rifle, not even with the knife.

I had to use another grenade for a single rat.

[kindred violet]

Lmao

[ivory trail]

Btw, is it just me or have chimera become a joke in this game? Like, all i have to do is keep constantly moving to the right -or left- and keep firering at them. Never died to a chimera even once.

[hardy crest]

they have definitely gotten easier than they were at launch

and i'll take their current iteration over that, any day of the week

launch chimeras were absolute nonsense

[ivory trail]

Well i cant speak about launch, i played the first time a few weeks ago.

So i can only compare them to the other games.

And compared to that? They are a joke.

[hardy crest]

at launch, you absolutely had to cheese a chimera with terrain/pathing

they were impossible to fight normally

[ivory trail]

That bad huh?

Well, maybe a joke is better, at least they arent frustrating.

[hardy crest]

if it ever had line of sight on you, it would home in on you with its jump and oneshot you regardless of armor

through all obstacles

[ivory trail]

Wow, okay this sounds bad.

Maybe them been a joke aint that bad at all.

[hardy crest]

and to be fair, they still essentially oneshot you if they land their jump

because they combo you to death before you can stand up

its just that their jump is now possible to avoid

which makes them fun

[ivory trail]

Well, none ever did, so i wouldnt know. 😅

Not that i did encounter that many of them now that i think about it...

[hardy crest]

it was essentially the same with pseudogiants, those were also borderline impossible at launch and are much better now imo

[ivory trail]

Huh, i might actually just encounter two during side quest.

[hardy crest]

both are punishing if you let them get to you, but are otherwise fair to deal with

[ivory trail]

I still think the AoE of the giant is a big much.

[hardy crest]

the jump slam thing?

[ivory trail]

Yeah.

[hardy crest]

if you jump right before it hits the ground, it doesnt affect you

[ivory trail]

Like it hits me when i think it shouldnt.

Hm, maybe i try that when my motivation to play more stalker 2 returns.

[hardy crest]

the timing is kind of tricky but yeah it's been working for me

[ivory trail]

Right now my motivation is a bit weak because of that ending quest. It was certainly one of the ending quests of all time.

Not terrible but... eh.

[kindred violet]

It's the same in the other games :)

[ivory trail]

Is it? Huh, it has been so long, that i might misremember.

Or maybe i just got better at gaming over the years.

[kindred violet]

And it's especially exaggerated in anomaly / gamma because you are faster than normal

Hence this sticker

[hardy crest]

i was just trying to find that pic lol

[ivory trail]

Is it? Huh, i dont even remember them been a joke in gamma, but i also dont remember them as been a problem in gamma either.

[hardy crest]

though, you do have to be careful with them in S2, because they will try and predict your movement

in gamma you can literally just hold A or D forever

[kindred violet]

And yeah, they will also close in on you

So you can't just stand on one spot doing it as they will come closer and then just slap you

[ivory trail]

I mean that is literally what i did in S2.

Circle strafe and just kill them.

[hardy crest]

they should simply run up to you and try to intercept you with their jumps if you never change direction

[ivory trail]

Maybe i have become so used to that because it makes a single bloodsucker a non issue in S2.

[hardy crest]

this is assuming open field though, if you have some obstacle to strafe around, then yeah

[kindred violet]

Pathing still isn't their strong suit

[hardy crest]

which is kind of a good thing honestly

because they are faster than you in a straight-line race

so if weird pathing didnt trip them up a bit, they might be nigh-impossible like they were at launch

its a fine line between too easy and too hard with stuff like this, and i think its always better to err on the side of it being a bit too easy

because at least that isn't frustrating

[ivory trail]

Yeah, agree.

I mean i dont even think it is a big deal that they are right now a joke, it was more surprising to me.

[hardy crest]

i was more shocked about the chimera in the rostok arena dying within the 2nd magazine of the gun, instead of requiring all 10 magazines of perfect headshots

[ivory trail]

I mean technically burer also become a joke when you get the rhythm down.

[hardy crest]

they definitely got a tankiness nerf

but to be fair, it was absolutely absurd before

[ivory trail]

I was more talking about not wasting shots at their shield.

[kindred violet]

God the chimera fight on release was torture

[hardy crest]

you had about a 15 bullet margin of error on veteran

[ivory trail]

When the burer has its shield up, just hide and avoid.

[hardy crest]

they give you like 300 bullets for the fight, and 285 of them had to be headshots to kill it

[kindred violet]

Luckily I just played on normal but still

[ivory trail]

Eh, i hate bullet sponges.

[hardy crest]

now it dies in less than 2 mags, i couldnt believe it

[kindred violet]

The psy dogs weren't much better either

[ivory trail]

Reminds me of that pseudo giant in the bandit base.

And i didnt really had anything good to kill it at the time.

[hardy crest]

burers become funny when you get a gauss gun

[ivory trail]

I mean sure that one was on me, but i didnt expect a giant there.

[hardy crest]

they get onetapped and you just dont even have to deal with their nonsense lol

a pistol shot to bait the shield and then 4 rounds from a saiga when it drops works just as well though

[ivory trail]

The polter geist and variations also become a lot easier when you get used to their movement.

I remember i once three shot one with a 7.62 WP sniper.

That was fun.

Especially compared to the multiple assault rifle mags it used to be for me.

[hardy crest]

gauss gun also onetaps poltergeists

i never leave home without it once i get one

[ivory trail]

Btw, am i the only one who is disapointed that it is still the only weird scifi gun in the game?

[hardy crest]

it inflicts the worst type of insult one can inflict upon their enemies - to be disregarded

https://tenor.com/view/steven-he-emotional-damage-steven-he-emotional-damage-gif-23428142

[ivory trail]

I mean come on, it has been years in game, be creative!

[hardy crest]

i wouldve liked more sure, but im good with it how it is also

[ivory trail]

I mean it isnt a big deal, but... it is just another of those small disapointments that just sum up for me.

You know?

[hardy crest]

yeah i get where youre coming from, i have a fair share of those

[ivory trail]

Well, at least i am not alone with it.

[hardy crest]

one of mine is the simple ammo/food/med boxes not ever respawning

its not like we need more of those items, i just like breaking boxes

its a primal, childish joy

[ivory trail]

No i get you.

[hardy crest]

and it annoys me that once those boxes are broken, theyre gone forever

[ivory trail]

I am with you there.

It just gives it too much of a collection gamey feeling and less of a alive world feeling.

[hardy crest]

thats one of the first things im going to investigate when i look into learning to mod the game

assuming it hasnt been done already

i want respawning boxes, and endless stash generation/hunting

[ivory trail]

I mean it is a quite minor thing to change and release has been a while ago, so i wouldnt surprised if someone touched it already.

I also would like more variety in the stashes, feels like 95% of them are 9mm para amo, buckshits, medpack, some food and bandages.

[hardy crest]

absolutely

[ivory trail]

Maybe a am a bit pampered from gamma where they are the mainsource for new armor and weapons and stuff.

But they feel very generic and most of the time i didnt needed any of that stuff.

[hardy crest]

i took a look at stalker infinity/unlimited? i think it was called, and that mod does a lot of the things i want to do, so i know theyre possible

but it also does tons of stuff i dont like

so i might see about opening up that mod and learning from it as a starting point

[ivory trail]

Yeah, that often the case with such mods, because someone just creates them to their wishes.

I mean fair, they mostly do them for themself and just share them.

[hardy crest]

which really is no different than what i aim to do yeah

its just good to know some of my ideas were possible and already worked on

[ivory trail]

Sure, i get you.

[hardy crest]

so now they're out there as resources for me to learn from

and while i do have a good amount of modding experience in general, none of it has been on unreal engine games

so im curious how much of a roadblock that will be

[ivory trail]

I mean i just looked it up and found this.

Epic Games have stated in this forum post, that "Unreal Engine 4 has been designed with modding in mind". They then go on to explain that since the engine source is available, and there is great documentation, mods have a lot of potential.

So it might depend on the game.

I mean GCG did gave gamma official support. So i would think they are mod friendly at least in their mindset.

Not sure how that translate in the actual stalker 2 game tho.

I am more a paradox game modder.

[hardy crest]

stalker 2 is UE5 though, and i read about GSC planning an engine update sometime "soon" (TM)

which has me wondering if i should wait on it

[ivory trail]

🤷‍♂️

I just did some general quick search.

[hardy crest]

yeah ill probably check it out in some more detail pretty soon

[ivory trail]

Well i wish you good luck with that.

[hardy crest]

i figure if a bunch of internet randos can figure it out, surely i can too

as a fellow internet rando

[ivory trail]

I mean to be fair, you never know how much modding experience those randos might have before they did that tho.

Btw how is that noon tide base going? Are you rich already?

[hardy crest]

i got out of there awhile ago, once the spawns slowed down enough to loot, i grabbed what i could and skedaddled

a few of the guys who wandered in towards the end were gauss gun users

but it got to the point where the bodies started actively despawning, so there is a limit apparently

[ivory trail]

Oh? I dont think i ever did encounter a gauss monolith outside of pripyat.

[hardy crest]

they are exceedingly rare, even inside of pripyat, in my experience

i think i've seen 6 in my entire playthrough of this save thus far, and 4 of them were within this noontide base nonsense

so, probably low single digit percent chance if i had to spitball a guess

the first one i saw was actually right after the sircaa segment, by quiet's base

[ivory trail]

Huh, i got my first gauss from that professor at the end of the collar side missions.

[hardy crest]

and he dropped his gauss gun through the ground when i killed him

[ivory trail]

Which was basically the last thing i did before i did go to pripyat.

[ivory trail]

Oh that sucks.

Happened to me a few times with a burer so i had to load.

[hardy crest]

yeah, bodies and dropped weapons falling through the ground is a pretty big problem right now

and it wasn't a problem at all at launch

wonder what caused it

[ivory trail]

Hm, no idea.

Sometimes games just do weird stuff.

[visual dawn]

is there any sorta mod complilation out?

[nocturne smelt]

Check on Nexus. There are a bunch of mod packs and overhauls on there. Just make sure whatever you are looking at is being actively updated.

[static sluice]

most of it is slop tbh

[static sluice]

for me its only weapons

[visual dawn]

im just so ceebs to keep upto date on things and what i can mix n match lol

[ornate herald]

I like using Maklane's Better Zone collection on nexus + oXa standard and Shay's A-life mod

I wouldn't be looking for massive mod lists or collections or anything until stalker 2 has better support for em/some sort of mod organiser

[shy badge]

does anyone know a fix for the sudden fps drop bug? Ill be playing at a smooth 60-70 fps then the second i enter any town or there are a lot of NPCs in the area my game becomes completely unplayable, sometimes it fixes itself, most of the time not. very infuriating when it happens in combat

[tame lodge]

new pc

[shy badge]

lol wish, have a ryzen 7, 2070 super, 32 gbs of ram, games on an m.2 and have had this issue since launch

[warped monolith]

That's probably the memory leak they haven't fixed yet

not fully, at least

[shy badge]

big sad,ive noticed its a lot better since launch but the fact its still so bad makes me not wanna play

[warped monolith]

maybe when the fabled engine update arrives

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/heroes-gif-27671687

[dapper parrot]

Thats not a bug but most likely your GPU bottleneck.

[shy badge]

its not lol

[dapper parrot]

yeah right 8gb vram 😄

if You are having sudden FPS drops then your GPU spikes over its limit and causing huge FPS drops = bottleneck.

After few minutes when it cools a bit it gets back to normal and it will eventually repeat that process again and again.

Only thing what can save You from that is performance monitoring metrics overlay on your screen.
Tune down your graphics until your VRAM consumption will be at stable 7gb

[warped monolith]

hate to break it to you but a 2070 super ain't exactly top of the line anymore

there is a memory leak issue but systems with more ram/vram will suffer less from it

[hallow sapphire]

imo: cheapest long term fix if other components are good would be a 5060ti 12-16gb for $350

[dapper parrot]

yeah 8gb vram these days can't handle anything especially like S2.
16gb vram these days is fair middle ground to be futureproof for few years.

[hallow sapphire]

i am getting the 5060ti soon because my uncle has one, right now i have a 1070 i soldered more vram onto

but yeah 8gb is not enough

[dapper parrot]

5070ti would be much better if You can get it for fair price, friend of mine just got it for 600 just because box was opened.

[warped monolith]

cries in 12gb

[dapper parrot]

its 16gb

those 5060 gpus are kind of weird this gen

[warped monolith]

Oh, I meant I'm crying because have a 12gb gpu.

should be good for a little while yet, though.

... hopefully.

[dapper parrot]

12gb is still adjustable and You can play around with it in most cases.
8-10 are already weak, perhaps 1080p can do smtn but 2K = bottlenecks in most cases

[stoic lichen]

I’m contempt with my 3080 right now.

[woeful moss]

The only reason those amounts ain’t enough is because we don’t beat enough developers into submission for not optimizing their shit.

And we don’t [REDACTED] enough publishers for continuing to encourage this

OG Crysis can now run on a modern day toaster and we’re still sitting here going on about how a hex-core CPU, a graphics card with 8 GB of VRAM and 16 GB of RAM isn’t enough.

[dapper parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-harder-cope-sir-cope-sir-american-psycho-gif-26276799

[woeful moss]

Demand better.

Don’t just roll over and accept slop because it’s all there is. Bully developers and publishers on a daily basis.

[warped monolith]

https://klipy.com/gifs/guy-fawkes-day-fifth-of-november-3

[woeful moss]

What more money than brain cells do to a mf

[warped monolith]

no no, you can keep going if you enjoy pissing against the wind, don't mind me

[nocturne smelt]

I mean, Crysis came out almost 20 years ago... Not much of a benchmark.

[warped monolith]

crysis remastered

looks almost the same but runs way worse

[woeful moss]

Which is fucking retarded

[nocturne smelt]

I didn't even know they did a remastered.

[woeful moss]

Goes back to “bully and beat developers until they stop making slop”

[nocturne smelt]

I remember needing a SLI rig to run that shit when it was new.

[finite needle]

Idk what's going on but my man here is very aggressive about video games

I hope this counts as ragebait, as the young people say these days

[woeful moss]

I’m aggressive about the software industry’s undoing of everything the hardware industry has accomplished in the past 5 years alone.

[warped monolith]

it's been a while already, flew under everyone's radar because it was an epic exclusive initially, I think.

[finite needle]

Yeah well it's the free market baby

[warped monolith]

"I'm very passionate about my hobbies"
the passion:

[finite needle]

Getting mad about video games is a choice, I would just not engage in something I don't like

[nocturne smelt]

Both side of this argument are valid. Optimization has been an issue for the last decade and it's only gotten worse with upscaling and framegen. But expecting a game to run flawlessly on older hardware is also a pipedream.

[finite needle]

It's definitely possible, but the drive to create realistic graphics, the request for said graphics and them being a way to pump out newer, more expensive hardware to replace the old is why this happens.

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah, The problem is the engines are outpacing the hardware at this point unless your willing to drop ridiculous money to stay ahead of the curve. Your average consumer is never going to be able to keep up.

[finite needle]

It's gonna crash again, sooner or later. It already happened once, the world's not gonna end.

Not for videogames. For Greenland, maybe, but not for videogames.

[nocturne smelt]

The bubble will burst eventually. As it always does. We are just in one of those bad periods for hardware purchases. Eventually these prices are just going to outpace the majority of consumers and they will have to reevaluate their pricing models.

[finite needle]

Just glad I got my new PC a couple of months before the RAM apocalypse

[dapper parrot]

Nobody is forcing to pay double the price for one brand if you can buy the same amount of vram for more than 50% less 😅

[nocturne smelt]

Lucky. I built mine during Covid and it was not a fun experience.

[warped monolith]

I bought mine at the tail-end of 2023, so I might not last as long.
I should've gone for 64 gb ram

[finite needle]

32 is fine, by the time 64 becomes the standard this is gonna be my kid's concern, not mine

[dapper parrot]

There is absolutely no need in gaming for more than 32gb, 64 will not make any difference tbf

[finite needle]

Also mine to be fair because money is gonna be mine but that's beside the point

With the backlog of games I have some of them gonna have to be played by my offspring for real

[dapper parrot]

Majority who are still on AM4 with 5800x3d and good RDNA3 or 40xx gpus are laughing out loud this period of time ngl

[woeful moss]

Give it 5 years and you’ll be the old man shaking the cane yourself

[finite needle]

In 5 years we gonna live in the zone irl if everything goes as it looks like anyway

[woeful moss]

Trve

Admittedly I’m also intentionally crippling myself on technology anymore even though I officially can afford better. Used to buy a lot of new shit. Not so much anymore.

[digital cape]

Guys any ideo how to fix ''Artifacts Spawning Underground'' issue ? Really tired of this shit. Already tried reload save 100-200m far from the anomaly which is have artifact. Any help ?

[finite needle]

If it's an old save that had the issue and you went back to it after official fix, they gonna stay underground.

Otherwise it's weird, for all intents and purposes the issue has been fixed and I haven't had the issue ever since

[finite needle]

Then again, Stalker 2 is the most "Works on my machine" game ever made

[warped monolith]

while also being the least "works on my machine" game ever made at the same time

schrödinger's works on my machine

[finite needle]

Yeah, I was just lucky with the draw this time

[woeful moss]

Funny enough I ended up with a freebie 2018 Optiplex from work.

[silver orchid]

yeah, crysis never was going to needed one

[slim moth]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1984?tab=description

[tired schooner]

Something I didn't know I needed

Lol

[tepid spade]

No more fake mods

[slim moth]

There is a dialogue light though.

lol

It's not as bad as Oblivion remastered but it is 100% there

im just testing it out and seeing if it works. lol

[tepid spade]

When I saw this earlier I was wondering if I really have missed something in lighting of this game except broken Lumen implementation

[slim moth]

It's very very subtle and only really noticeable at night or in dark areas. in the daytime its not going to be noticeable at all

if you want i can make a clip

[tepid spade]

Yeah why not

https://tenor.com/view/cbz-gif-27104348

[finite needle]

Glad to see that the "factions and their conflict are the only element that matters" brainrot has reached the Fallout fanbase as well, the so called peak fiction

I was hoping this would remain contained in Stalker

[warped monolith]

what happened? and in which specific Fallout context (one of the games? or the tv show?)

[finite needle]

TV shows

Was just reading some stuff and turns out most of the critiques are because they made the BoS look like idiots (which has never happened in any of the fallout games ever) or that they killed the NCR

[slim moth]

and then this the spotlight fading away after conversation

also one of my fav radio songs on in the background

[finite needle]

Huh, I have never noticed this. If anything, some dialogues need MORE light

[slim moth]

i don't think there's a spotlight for people in masks/helmets

but people with their faces exposed

[finite needle]

Most story important people have their face exposed

[warped monolith]

omfg he looks like a villain ducking back into the shadows

[warped monolith]

tourists.

[slim moth]

he's an odd one but he actually grew up in the zone before the "incident"

[warped monolith]

I still gotta watch the tv series. Too lazy tho

[slim moth]

I do too. I know i'd like it

[finite needle]

It's pretty fun, works rather well. Best moments are when is a bit more serious rather than when they are silly, and has a couple of down episodes, but up until now it has been rather enjoyable

[warped monolith]

and you're all perpetually allowed to call me out on my insanity for being "too lazy" to hit up a streaming service and clicking "play"

too lazy to press 2 buttons. (and stare at the screen for a while)

[silver orchid]

In sdalger the factions needs more "deep-explanations" or directly playable-scenes explaining the way until this x point of x faction and that

[tepid spade]

I will have to look at that on a moni, can't tell anything on a mobile

[warped monolith]

It's noticeable but not too jarring

[tepid spade]

There is some difference but mobile and Discord is...🤯

[true yew]

Was farming this pseudogiant until it got lightning striked, cool

[ivory trail]

Farming?

[ivory trail]

What the hell is going on here? Feels like all the artefacts. With no anomaly in sight? Okay, there seem to be ALL tourist breakfast. Anyone seen this before?

Oh, okay i get it, its a psi trick. Sad that my first thought was, that this might be a bug.

[ivory trail]

I somehow have a faint memory that this was already something in the older games.

[fierce glacier]

i used to play gamma on one of these things..

barely

[warped monolith]

I wouldn't have dared to try playing even the original on one of those

[icy basin]

You underestimate an Optiflex far too greatly

SoC would've done fine

[stone arrow]

i daily drive an autismplex and look like this

[tawny pine]

51 more years until gamma 2

[finite needle]

Just as every being's final evolution is the crab, the post apocalyptic game evolution is Crafting Survival

After playing the Ward route, I can't help but think that the game is supposed to be played as a Ward, just like SoC felt like it was meant to be played as Duty adjacent

[ivory trail]

You think so? From a lot of the story points i get more the feeling that ward were suppose to be the big villains.

[brazen socket]

yall think stalker 2 is worth trying again, or does it need another year to cook? played it at launch a bit and thought it was ok but was buggy and the mutants were bullet sponges. Has the AI got better?

[warped monolith]

if you played only v1.0 at launch, the game has been quite improved.
It's still not at an ideal spot, there's still some bullet sponges (not as bad as 1.0), it's still a bit buggy. But it's way better than launch.

If you're bored and got nothing else you wanna play right now, give it a go

[brazen socket]

yeah those were my main gripes with the game. using all the ammo in the zone on 1 blood sucker, and ai just spawning around corners or behind you in places you cleared. was thinking of trying it again after my gamma run.

[knotty onyx]

Vanilla enemies are still pretty spongy, but there's a couple good rebalance mods. Better ballistics is pretty hardcore, and there's other ones closer to the OG trilogy in terms of damage.

[finite needle]

Ward feel like colonizers and invaders, but the story flows a bit better if you side with Ward. Some of the quests as ward are a bit better, plus is very convenient as you won't have Ward being hostile for most of the run (Spark is neutral towards you for a very long time).

[finite needle]

Admittedly, they're not nearly as spongy as they used to be. I remember the Chimera fight in the arena needing you to hit only headshots and use all the bullets to actually kill it on veteran.

[ivory trail]

Well, it is all a bit wonky, just like the question, why is there at this point even any military at all?

Like the perimeter, that this is technically not controlled by ward doesnt add anything to the story.

[finite needle]

We could also make the military cordon impenetrable and not have any games at all if you wish

[ivory trail]

Just let that also be ward, so now you even have an excuse why they cant just go all in with all their troops because someone still has to guard the perimeter and also you remove the military, that is at this point a completely pointless faceless faction with no relevance to the story.

[finite needle]

Yeah just let the PMC control an area that is technically still part of a sovereign nation

[ivory trail]

They already let them control the zone.

[finite needle]

And as I said, we could also have impenetrable zone and just not play the game

[ivory trail]

Cool, quote me.

[finite needle]

That's not what we have, Ukrainian government is unable to completely control the zone and shit's like that, it's not hard to believe

[warped monolith]

[knotty onyx]

Not hard to imagine some corrupt politician advocating for privatizing the zone.

[warped monolith]

y'all still engaging with this guy

[finite needle]

Imagine if the game had something like that, I would call it SIRCAA

Anyway if you find that hard to believe, just don't read why lore wise in GAMMA is not possible to buy weapons

[ivory trail]

To be completely honest, with SIRCAA that can just create all the artfefacts they want, i dont even understand why we havent now that i think about it.

I always thought the stalkers were just something that was tolerated because they got the artefact out of the zone. And they turned a blind eye on that whole buisiness because that was preferable to sent soldiers to their deaths.

[warped monolith]

weren't the Freedom initially trying to do that in the original trilogy
or at least the very first step in privatizing the zone by opening it up to the outside world for tourism, commerce and whatnot.

[finite needle]

Government bans drugs, no weed to be sold. To buy it, you gotta kill someone and loot it.

[warped monolith]

I mean... we have excellent real world examples of "government bans" being ineffective

[finite needle]

The attempt to make the vendors not sell weapons in GAMMA a lore thing is a bit goofy

[tame lodge]

Yeah

[finite needle]

Just say it's a mod, nu guns and leave it, it's better

[tame lodge]

Somehow UN stopped all gun trafficking

[ivory trail]

Hm, i think it works well as an excuse to force the player to explore and go stash hunting.

[knotty onyx]

Bro has typed like more than 7 words about a goddamn loading screen text

[warped monolith]

the monolith vaporizes anyone who attempts to buy/sell/trade guns.

Done. Problem solved in a lore-friendly way.

[finite needle]

The Monolith's wisdom is unbound

[knotty onyx]

Monolith takes them all, that's why they drop the best stuff haha

[finite needle]

The Monolith is the reason we have the Howa 20 in a game set in 2018, 2 years before the gun was in service

[knotty onyx]

Temporal anomaly obv

[finite needle]

obv

Btw once they actually do something with Duty and Freedom and develop a couple more areas that really feel like you just pass by (cough Yaniv cough) the game can be called complete. My other complaint is that it's very easy to sneak now, enemies oftentimes feel like they're blind if you're couching, like I'm playing Skyrim.

[tame lodge]

If only gamma lore extended past tool tips

The story is ass

[finite needle]

The best way to enjoy Anomaly's story is to skip it. The best quality it has is that it's all text so you can skip it faster.

[tame lodge]

Yeah but i would like to have something to work towards in a narrative

Not just fetch quests

[finite needle]

It's not really necessary imho, it's all about emergent gameplay and make your own adventure type shit.

[tame lodge]

Well in that case new zones

Or the og areas revamped

[warped monolith]

really? Back in 1.0 everyone was a terminator with spider-sense when I played lmao

[knotty onyx]

That's just anomaly. Not any problem gamma introduced.

Tho gamma is supposed to get a story update eventually

[silver orchid]

Im pretty sure that we will get a rumour of Stalker 3 before than gamba having that story rework

[knotty onyx]

Yeah probably

[ivory trail]

Eh... at this point i honestly cant say that i would look forward to a 3.

[silver orchid]

Same

[knotty onyx]

I wonder which ending they'd pick as cannon

Hopefully they'd be better with all the UE5 stuff for the next game

[ivory trail]

I did read somewhere a comment that it would be the skif enging, but so far i was too lazy to check if that is true.

[silver orchid]

Zakhar Bocharov said that HoC would get updates and content for more years than the ones planned for support because always there new ideas

[ivory trail]

None of the endings feel really like they would be that great to continue the story in an interesting way tho.

[silver orchid]

Soooo MAYBE S3 never will be a thingi but perhaps HoC will receive more content instead

[ivory trail]

You mean like CS and CoP for stalker "1"?

[warped monolith]

maybe in another 10-15 years

[knotty onyx]

||that's the side with Richter/refuse to kill doctor one right?||

[ivory trail]

Or do they plan to turn this into a live service.

[warped monolith]

there's still DLCs to be made for HoC, so it'll still be around for a while

[knotty onyx]

How would they live service a single player game?

[ivory trail]

||Where you yourself go into the pot and then, something happens and zones appear all over. Not sure how you get it, i got the strelok ending.||

[silver orchid]

No, just expansions, I KNOW that GSC thinks and a lot of people thinks that CS and CoP are somehow expansions (and there reasons) but, are standalone games with different focus.

[warped monolith]

oh there's always a way.

[knotty onyx]

||yeah that's the don't kill doctor ending||

[warped monolith]

they could do crap similar to what gacha games do, but without the gacha.

[ivory trail]

I dont know, get people hooked and then constantly bring new overpriced "content"? I am sorry, but at this point i just cant help but expect the worst from every gaming company.

[knotty onyx]

I could see them do MMO spinoff like FO76

[warped monolith]

assassin's creed had one or two titles with live service mechanics iirc

[silver orchid]

that is enough time as for see GSC dying again

[ivory trail]

I please dont, that would be my worst nightmare.

[warped monolith]

Then it rises again with more newbie devs and stalker 3 will be even worse optimized

[ivory trail]

If they would do that, that would be another franchise i would have to consider dead to me.

[silver orchid]

retcons in the retcons in the retcons and then the zone it's set in crimea

[warped monolith]

oh right

the Hitman 3 reboot game thingy

singleplayer, but live service.

and I dunno what the token moron is on about overpriced content, these games get content updates for free
and then they get paid mtx like skins and battle passes
but actual new areas, weapons, enemies and bosses are free in live service games

"the splitter" lmao

[ivory trail]

I am not even sure retcons would be the worst. I mean the story is petty messy. There is no clear villain you are against for longer as maybe one or two missions. Which is just... bad. Either dont have a clear villain, like we usually never had in stalker which worked just fine, or at least have one from the reveal until the end.

[silver orchid]

A MMO would be interesting but i believe that is wayyyy better enhance the AI and simulation instead, that's the best thingi to a "masive world" imo

[warped monolith]

every stalker-adjacent MMO that ever released has failed. Hard.

[knotty onyx]

Isn't this mostly because they were all early access rust clones?

[warped monolith]

I... dunno? I played Survarium (which barely qualifies as stalker-adjacent, I guess) and one that was either called stalker online or "the zone online" or "sz-online" or something like that, which was more of a generic openworld mmorpg

oh and stalcraft.

they were all hella boring in their own way, and the setting itself wasn't enough to keep me interested

I was kinda hopeful for Survarium's PVE content but that never happened. Or if it did, it flew under my radar

[ivory trail]

||I mean at first i thought it was suppose to be faust when he took half of noon tide with him. Then when we found herman in the spacial anomaly, i thought, oh... it is herman who is the mastermind behind everything, okay cool, at least now we have the beginning and the later game connected and faust was just a red herring.

Not great, but that could work. But i guess hermans plan was so good, that he got captured offscreen right away and did disapear forever again. Then strider and moon tide turn into monolith, okay, so it is strider and faust. But strider basically disappeared. Okay so it is just faust. Yes? And two missions later faust is dead. But monolith is there? So what was the point?

And what was his plan? Was his plan as good as the one from herman? Just instead of getting captured he get killed by us? Like what is going on? Is everyone a total idiot? And after that we basically have no clear villain again. But still three potential boss fights depending on who we sided with.

And no one really seems to actually have a good plan. Scar is just completely mental. Strelok just wants to become fuhrer of the zone. And ward? Ward itself doesnt even have a plan is seems to be just a sock puppet for agatha from what i have seen. Only that agatha never makes another appearance unless we side with ward.

I mean it sort of works in the moment for a game, but oh boy, if you just think a little bit about the story, it all falls apart.
||

[knotty onyx]

I don't even really know specifics about any of them. I just know I see shit on YouTube like "check out this stalker inspired MMO!!!" And then it's early access, generic AF and no further videos from that creator ever come.

[ivory trail]

If you would spend your life savings on their patreon/subscribestar there would come a second video with more generic art asset slop.

[warped monolith]

I'm trying to find a video of the one I played, the "best" one I found is generic youtube cancer slop with the guy adding commentary to footage saying the most inane shit imaginable.
Could send if you don't mind the ear aids, or you could just mute the audio I guess

[ivory trail]

Reminds me a bit of the time when everyone and their mother made a zombie basebuilder survival mmo.

[warped monolith]

I think this is the one I played, but it's been renamed/rebranded https://store.steampowered.com/app/1180380/Stay_Out/

Steam

Stay Out

Stay Out is a multiplayer role-playing game with shooter elements, immersing you in a dark and mysterious world where the spirit of stalkerism reigns. Here you will find abandoned territories full of dangers, mysteries and abnormal phenomena that defy nature itself. In this world, the deadliest threats come not only from anomalies or mutants, bu…

at least the screenshots look similar to what I played

[knotty onyx]

Yeah if GSC made/contracted an MMO it would probably have to focus more on faction wars or something to not just be dismissed as another survival crafting game.

[ivory trail]

Hm, but would you be interested in it?

[knotty onyx]

Tbh? Probably not. MMOs are too disrespectful of my time generally.

I just think it would make sense as a business decision to drop a product with those monetization options.

[ivory trail]

I mean i guess there is a target group, still remember there were a lot of people who asked if gamma had multiplayer and i just guess those people are still asking that question.

But tbh, i would have zero interest in a stalker MMO no matter what they would do with it.

[finite needle]

There is no interest in MMOs in general

You already have WoW and FFXIV, anything else is bound to get the leftovers

and that role is up to Guild Wars 2

[warped monolith]

MMO players already found their niche, and they don't tend to leave their nests because of sunk cost syndrome and whatnot.

[finite needle]

Why would I leave FFXIV to play a Stalker MMO that is going to be some slavjank mess? Just play ARMA and pretend it 's Stalker.

[knotty onyx]

Bad ending: they drop an extraction shooter like 8 years too late.

[ivory trail]

You forgot the occasional new MMO people are interested in for a few months before everyone moves on to the next one.

[warped monolith]

inb4 the upcoming multiplayer for Stalker 2 is exactly that.

[finite needle]

I still remember everyone trying so hard to push Lost Ark for whatever reason lmao

[warped monolith]

lost ark, last epoch, throne & liberty and more recently, Ashes of Creation

[knotty onyx]

Hey D2 and FO76 still get new content for some fucking reason lol

[ivory trail]

Is that the one with the dinosaurs?

[warped monolith]

they barely qualify as MMOs though... where's the "massively" part

[ivory trail]

Failout 64 only does because todd doesnt want to admit that it was a failure.

[finite needle]

I'm always surprised that Ashes of Creation is actually real.

[warped monolith]

fo76 has a cap of 24 people per server if I'm not mistaken

[knotty onyx]

mMOs lmao

[finite needle]

FO76 would work better if it wasn't multiplayer. The zone and area has potential, but the game is incredibly boring

[knotty onyx]

Apparently the TV show is driving a lot of engagement for FO76

[warped monolith]

true. It's a wonder the piratesoftware shitshow didn't kill that game in its crib

[ivory trail]

I still cant get my head around that they did release a fallout without any NPC and people did play it.

[warped monolith]

yeah it had a recent update with a new area and the ghoul appears ingame.

local discorder discovers the concept of a 100% player-driven game

(not that it worked for Fallout 76, but the concept has existed for a couple decades now)

[ivory trail]

Yeah and i guess from now on todd will milk that with a new release of F4 for each new season.

Guess F4 will have in the end more releases as skyrim before F5 comes out.

[warped monolith]

someone seems to have a laser-focused hate boner for todd howard