╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[split crown]

actually

no

I was doing the Spark route

[finite needle]

Then strange because they never shoot me, but I just left them to their destiny and went with my man Strider

[split crown]

because ||I chose to help noontide, but lo and behold, your choice doesn't matter really in the end because they all go back to being brainwashed lmao regardless||

[strange fable]

i dont think i can bring myself to do anything but the skif ending no matter how tragic it seems

[finite needle]

||It's to trick you into thinking that you can pick a third route. It's a narrative choice.||

But thruthfully, while you might have empathy with the noontiders, the vast majority of them are assholes.

[strange fable]

hey man they got a few good ones... 💔

[split crown]

yea, a few good apples amongst the bunch

did they ever make Nine show up again?

[finite needle]

Yes, he shows up hostile in the main quest

[split crown]

Once you save him from the loners who attack him at the shack in the Lesser Zone, he just disappears

[split crown]

man

[finite needle]

||When you go grab the gizmo for the Doctor, he's there among the other Monos||

[strange fable]

i tried not interfering in my second game and he died obv and i went to collect reward and for some reason i still got dialogue as if i chose to side with him lol

[split crown]

yeah dialogue for the end of that task is always bugged more often than not from my experience kek

[finite needle]

Eh I always side with him anyway, he's done nothing wrong

[strange fable]

im doing the nightmare run of trying a modded run in the midst of everyone updating for 1.7.1 and just typical stalker 2 issues

[strange fable]

fair enough, i just like the idea of being "loyal" to stalkers

[split crown]

same

and I don't mind doming a few punk ass ignorant loners every now and then.

[split crown]

I love having mods for Stalker 2, but what I don't love is having said mods break with every significant or insignificant patch GSC throws out.

[strange fable]

long as it doesnt tank my rep like cctv cameras installed in every dark corner of the zone LOL

[strange fable]

exactly, and it doesnt help they havent really done all the SDK stuff they need to do

so much good stuff brewing to be totally neutered by the lack of support

[split crown]

again why I think it'd be helpful to actually have literal reputation bars or something you can check in with via the PDA for the factions.

[strange fable]

truth

in terms of mods im super easy to please, but everyone goes so far with changes for their overhauls im usually turned off

all i want is a way to visually see as I "upgrade" my gun so it can feel like my gun, and im cool lol

[split crown]

It's a never-ending rabbit hole dude. Even with Gamma, I had like 200+ mods on top of Grok's already curated list.

I just enjoy trying out new mods that I find interesting

[strange fable]

thats true... i just keep clicking download on such small time mods like the shocified menu textures LOL

love that one

[split crown]

whether it's quality of life stuff, different visuals, different audio, etc

[split crown]

true true, that's a good one.

[strange fable]

theres one thats out now, by the dude who did the sights + or whatever... its an AK upgrading thing

super cool idea, would love to see it on all weps

[shadow stirrup]

||guys Im in the death cave is this artifact bugged or something its inside the rock||

[strange fable]

wish i could remember, sorry man

[shadow stirrup]

what are those location names bro reminds me of this

[split crown]

oooo

[strange fable]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1780

[split crown]

love the ak74

I'd go most of the game using it lol

[strange fable]

uses the default upgrade system to change the looks of it over time, pretty much my cup of tea

might make me run it the whole game LOL

[shadow stirrup]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO ITS BUGGED

GODDAMMIT I NEED IT FOR THE QUEST

[split crown]

F

[shadow stirrup]

man

[strange fable]

stalker 2 man

[split crown]

try no-clipping to get it

[shadow stirrup]

how do I do it

[split crown]

or save and reload, maybe it'll pop outta the ground

[split crown]

console command

[strange fable]

i was on the 3 captains quest on release, maybe a week into release or two

[split crown]

this looks really cool tho

[strange fable]

and it was totally bugged

like unfinishable to a satisfying degree

so i had to quit the game for like 3 months before they fixed it

because im a freak completionist and couldnt move on unless i did it my way

damn man

one of my mods is causing a weird freeze during the intro

like right when the bloodsucker attacks you

and i figured it must be the bloodsucker glowing eyes mod no? its not.

[shadow stirrup]

how do I access it internet is saying I need a mod for it

all dat for artifact

[strange fable]

yeah youll need a separate tool for it

not sure which ones work atm

[split crown]

right

I forgot you needed a damn mod to enable console commands in S2 lmao

[strange fable]

fucked up world

[split crown]

truly

[shadow stirrup]

fuck this goon cave I'm leaving

[strange fable]

maybe if you wait long enough like for sleep or an emission itll reset its own position?

i really am unsure how they handle artefacts in S2

[shadow stirrup]

nah Im too lazy to go in there again

Its prolly for the quest that sido gave me about a rare artifact

imma just cancel it

[strange fable]

guessing its between DWO (which it shouldnt be , was working like 3 days ago) and better ballistics core

nope, neither of those

i absolutely abhor checking mod issues

ARE YOU SHITTING ME?????

It was the fucking bloodsucker eyes

that DIDNT fix the issue the first time i tried

what the fuck

[west moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/975199248431865966.webp?size=128

[fluid condor]

How come I dont play the game when it released, to wait for it to be polished and because my pc might not handle it

And now I try it a year after release and the game is still and unoptimized hot mess

Like gamma is a way better game and gamma is a gazillion of mods kept together by some glue, tape, a squirrel and hopes and prayers

[pseudo falcon]

anyone tried prototype and standard?
coz prototype has issues atm, like i cant barter with the food vendor in zalissiya

[late kernel]

Once again, we are comparing Stalker 2 with Gamma
When the two game is designed completely different in different circumstances to different kind of people

Gamma is a bloated modpack that is more Tarkov than "STALKER," built upon 15 years of modding evolution by people in their spare time with full creative control, not constrained by deadlines, pleasing shareholders, and all that bullshit you have to deal with in an actual game development studio.

[warped monolith]

just nod and wave

[late kernel]

Complacency is for the weak

[tame lodge]

Game with 10+ years of mod work vs game that came out last year

Smartest user

[late kernel]

Thank you Drewski for bringing these people into the universe of Stalker

[warped monolith]

some ppl are just not worth my time and energy

most ppl, actually

[rotund mantle]

Truly the worst thing to happen ngl

[slow cave]

Real but

It’s better

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-gif-8242347154758580084

[stoic lichen]

Gamma is for people who love AND absolutely despise Escape From Tarkov.

[hallow canopy]

I would say Gamma is a Step up from EFT
Buuuuuuut the Healing mechanic is better in EFT

And the Weapon Mechanic is better in EFT

[rotund mantle]

im just surprised people even try to compare gamma and S2 as the game was always going to be Arcady like the trilogy and stick to its roots gamma is a pretty big niche type of mod in the entire scene that deviates alot mechanically from anything seen in the trilogy

[hallow canopy]

I would not call Stalker 2 Arcady
Its more of a Simplified version

[stoic lichen]

Again, gamma asks the question, “What if you love the concept of EFT but just… absolutely hate playing that fucking game?”

[rotund mantle]

fair i meant Arcady more so it handles gun balancing and damage its rpg like

[hallow canopy]

I loved Tarkov with its PvE
Its just shame that PvE is getting worse and worse as everyone wants to play it
But EFT devs try to make it a PvP instead

[warped monolith]

spt answers that question way better than gamma ever could

[rotund mantle]

i wanna like tarkov but i already got my own special hell and thats top tier ground and air in WT no room for more

[hallow canopy]

I am sure someone would make the EFT Mod for Stalker 2

soon or later

[rotund mantle]

fr its coming lol

however that SDK is THICC 700GB

[hallow canopy]

what from EFT or Stalker 2?

[rotund mantle]

stalker 2 sorry

[slow cave]

I’d say it’s those who hate tarkov

No cheaters:)

[hallow canopy]

Not sure whats so big in there, but not all can be weapons/healing mechanic

[rotund mantle]

I think just its raw uncompressed files for everything

[hallow canopy]

Think Half of that is Story

Or whatever one time assets you would see, like in the ending

I just had 3 Waves of Swarm of Rats attack me

[jaunty ruin]

Yes, it is. It's all of the assets uncompressed and ready to mod.

The big issue is more so when you update it you need to redownload the entire thing instead of only what was changed being patched.

[short geyser]

Warthunder is atrocious

At least EFT has semblance of getting somewhat better wipe after wipe

Warthunder at this point is exclusively designed around milking the playerbase

[short geyser]

Me when my niche special interest goes mainstream

https://tenor.com/view/ashton-hall-daily-routine-hall-breaking-tv-throwing-controller-gif-4740959973143412307

[late kernel]

For the wrong reason

[rotund mantle]

Fr lol

[short geyser]

It is what it is I'm just happy the franchise is getting attention

I only start to gatekeep when someone says some shit about S2 in comparison to gamma

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-mj-basketball-gif-michael-jordan-no-no-no-no-gif-16220345851539903827

[late kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-muscle-strong-man-gif-5783927

[hallow canopy]

I've played both
Both are atrocious with PvP

[short geyser]

Tarkov doesn't sell $60-90 premiums so that's already a plus

[hallow canopy]

But you also cant tell who is "Skilled" and who is Cheating

In War Thunder you can see somewhat, but in Tarkov you cant, because you are dead already

I've distanced myself from PvP games, and hope Stalker 2 wont go the EFT route of PvP "Multiplayer"

[slim moth]

I was just gonna say, getting older, pvp games are less desirable

[hallow canopy]

I agree, it feels like more people/gamers want PvE games

And Stalker 2 with PvE Co-Op would be hella fun

[slim moth]

PvE with co-op and shit

yup

[hallow canopy]

Yeee

Guess I found my people in this chat

[short geyser]

That's not necessarily true, you can Def tell the big cheaters who have 25+ KDRs apart from someone who's skilled

But yes tarkov Def needs things like server replays

And honestly at this point kernel level anti cheat should be the default for multiplayer games

[slim moth]

paying extra money for a pve mode :c

[hallow canopy]

What point you got Kernal level of protection if Cheaters can bypass that too

[slim moth]

SPT

[short geyser]

Because it still helps?

[hallow canopy]

Yea I would pay extra for PvE

[short geyser]

They still have to pass more hurdles

[hallow canopy]

to what degree?
It will only slow them down

[short geyser]

It's been shown in the industry to help more compared to traditional client ones

[hallow canopy]

The best method to not have cheaters, is to not encounter them at ALL
By playing PvE where we now got more sophisticated AI

[short geyser]

Just look at valorant and CS2

One hardly has cheaters and the other is infested with them

[hallow canopy]

Yeee

I guess the times where we need PvP is over
Long gone are the days where dudes would come together and play something like CoD2

I can tell you that from experience
Lost a friend because of War Thunder

[slim moth]

i fuck with Arma. I don't fuck with arcade arena tdm shooters too much anymore.

[short geyser]

having played SPT heavily before the official release of PvE, it's honestly alot better

Especially given how modded you can make it

And how you can make it coop as well

[hallow canopy]

I had also friends in Arma, however because of bug in the game where a dead soldier could still have his proxy chat enabled like a radio, I ranted out to the entier server, and lost like 5 good friends

But then again, small Arma servers arent known for the best experience
Should have joined a bigger more organised server

[hallow canopy]

Well got myself now the Sledgehammer

[waxen island]

guys im at the quest with scar and i showed my pda to Korshunov should i show him too or not?

[slow cave]

Shoot scar in the head

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker-game-gn-chat-gn-good-morning-gif-15916286457191491792

[wanton arch]

Are SIN and UNISG still in this game? I never played that far to find out.

Might sail the seas again if they are.

A simple yes or do no spoilers please?

[silver orchid]

NO

Cry

Cry harder

[rotund mantle]

thank GOD they arent in

[shadow stirrup]

man you can get stuck so easily in this game

[zealous shuttle]

Since STALKER 2 is so huge, I don't understand why doesn't it have vehicles. It's making the same mistake as Fallout 4.

It'll likely go against the lore, but at the same time, half of the map is emptier than a stalker's wallet after visiting Sid. Best to just zoom past them.

[silver orchid]

the devs that don't there vehicles (on pre-release interviews)

by a system of dynamic anomalies that move em with each emission

[zealous shuttle]

You could make it where Skif can find a dirtbike or something under a building. But if he parks it outside during an emission, it will instantly blow up or fly away, or fly away with Skif on it.

[silver orchid]

a bike on the zone sounds correct

imagine, skif fitness

partnered by red bull

[zealous shuttle]

The Soviets did had motorcycles, like IMZ M-61, strangely they never appear even as wreckages in the OGs.

I'm not too educated on Ukraine during this time, it's likely that they exclusively used four wheeled vehicles at all times and never motorcycles.

[silver orchid]

tho

i expected see a train on HoC

seems pretty logic to be the thingi on which nitr0 and cardan was working on at the end of CoP

but seems that the ending on specific is non-canon

Smth like the train of METRO Exodus would be cool

[zealous shuttle]

That would be very sick. It would be funny if it were silent too and no horn, the train being one of the most dangerous anomalies. The Zone takes even on rails.

[silver orchid]

but i guess that i demand much for the guys that make the rookie village looks exactly the same 9 years after of SoC or the same guys that did the zone be without much changes apart of the presence of Ward and that Freedom/Duty sucks

[silver orchid]

imagine a usable train on Jupiter Underground

[zealous shuttle]

Also goes medium speed too, or fast. Medium speed might be better, it would be the second most calming thing after a campfire.

[slow cave]

Real

(They let go of one worker give them a break)

[wanton arch]

Why is it because of lore or?

[silver orchid]

Sin is useless here

by one reason

Dark Stalkers already exists and are mentioned on CS, tho, GSC surely isn't gonna use em on HoC

And UN here is useless by the existence of SIRCAA that already is a international thingi or smth

soooo u would have the theory that the "UN" now has thingis with SIRCAA

[wanton arch]

Thanks for the explanation.

[rotund mantle]

Lore and it would just feel cheap to toss them in atleast the way they are currently

Maybe if they got rewrite it could work

[silver orchid]

i wish that GSC used the Dark Stalkers for explain the radio thingi on Red Forest

but

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-patrick-spongebob-cry-gif-10759658

[shadow stirrup]

is hilka better than bear detector?

hilka doesnt look like a detector to me tbh

thought it was a quest item when i first saw it

[knotty onyx]

Bear is more usable since it gives direction and hilka doesn't

[outer depot]

I've killed 8 Burers in Garbage now right near the dig site

more are coming

[stoic lichen]

Don’t forget to grab their toes :3

[outer depot]

I did

i then walked off a slight incline and skifs arthritic knees exploded

[shadow stirrup]

I SWEAR DEAD MUTANTS MOVE WHEN I LOOK AWAY IM NOT CRAZY

[slow cave]

Yup

Seen them bounce a bit

[shadow stirrup]

fuckin hated swamps in CS fuckin hate swamps in S2

nimble was right man

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-surprise-bathroom-ogre-gif-11492547

[split crown]

Swamps in CS be a blessing compared to whatever the fuck that shit is in Sdalger 2, bruv

frfr on god

https://tenor.com/view/this-fucking-sucks-danny-devito-clap-clapping-gif-17307367409868579769

[broken shuttle]

Fellas is it worth picking up the game on sale? I’ve been so hesitant due to A-Life not really being implemented and I’ve heard that performance is very rough. I have a 3070, 5800x, and 32GB of DDR5 RAM

[slow cave]

Someone tried walking on the radio tower and fell

[slow cave]

Not yet

Wait until 5.5 ue update

Performance is better but not amazing for me; plus a life is there but it’s a skeleton

[broken shuttle]

So I’m hearing next fall then to buy

No way I’m buying the game full price tbh. Video games these days have no reason to cost an arm and a leg

[rotund mantle]

Fr next fall will most likely be the best time

[split crown]

Yup

really is a bad feeling when ya realize game companies these days release unfinished products for full $59.99 or $69.99 pricing (if not higher)

also kinda why I stopped pre-ordering games a long time ago

[broken shuttle]

Me too, I knew it was gonna be a rough launch but not expecting a bare bones experience I’ve seen so far. I’m not paying 60-80 bucks to be a beta tester and get a finished game after 2-3 years. I understand the situation with GSC with all that is happening but I’d rather they have released it later with something more rather than what I’ve been seeing. I’m sure the story is good, but STALKER is all about interacting and being in a living world that reacts. That’s like for me why I really loved the OG trilogy.

[stark rapids]

I just did the faust battle on master mode and the game freezes the moment he teleports me. I am not doing that battle again and there are no mid mission saves.

[real tinsel]

Lads, since Rusted Dawn modpack is not updated yet, is there any other hardcore modpack out there for S2?

[tame lodge]

Unlimited i guess

On veteran

Or master

[remote eagle]

I.P.S.F. is international too

[reef kite]

after finishing the game once right after release I'm gonna try it again and see what comes of it, I'm not expecting anything amazing ngl

[remote eagle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1351304623406714971/SKEEFA.gif

[reef kite]

I've played it at like ~40 FPS on a 1080ti I can't wait to somehow have worse perf on a 3080

[hallow canopy]

When it comes to Vehicles for Stalker 2
Just look at Yantar and its Vehicle Graveyar.
Vehicles are literally Radiation magnets.
Any vehicle that was used in cleaning or even helping around the CNPP was deemed dangerous
Engine Filter, Interior, and the motion of speed that he vehicle travels
It doesnt pay out to drive a dust catching vehicle of any sort in any speed as you would hit so much radiation that you would need to wash it multiple times
Even then, eventually they would be scraped

[hallow canopy]

welcome to Master

[reef kite]

yep,

[late kernel]

That is why you buy games from third party sellers if you value your money https://gg.deals/game/stalker-2-heart-of-chernobyl/

[hallow canopy]

You do know why many buy from Steam??

Look at the 4 new Products coming next year and tell me, that money everyone spends on games isnt place to good use
Those 3rd Party sellers take that money for themselves, unless you can prove me otherwise

[split crown]

I mainly purchase through Steam, but yeah I've also browsed other sites that may have cheaper pricings.

[late kernel]

Those 3rd party sellers already bought the game keys and reselling them, I don't care, I want to game for cheap, if there are no good deals on Steam, i buy elsewhere, and spend the rest of my money to actually important things

[split crown]

Ya

Pretty much

[summer vapor]

For me, the game costs $40 for the basic version on Steam

[late kernel]

I'm not gonna spend extra for no reason because "muh billion dollar slop company who don't care about me or the quality of their game" don't get the money they want. Make actually better games, innovate on your franchise, have better services or you won't get shit from me.

I got bills to pay

[summer vapor]

GSC are not millionaires... At some point, I remember, they ran out of money and their head was looking for investors

[late kernel]

I'm talking in general

[wanton arch]

im pretty sure this would work fine if you are fine playing FPS game at like 60 to 80 fps

and i hope that you have 1080p monitor because 1440p on UE5 would just eat your Vram so much that

from 70 lowest setting jump down to 10 fps

yes i fucking got 70 fps on rx7600 with frame gen FSR 3.1 with upscale from 1080p to 1440p

it just the vram just fucking collapse itself after 30 mins into the game

https://tenor.com/view/posted-up-baby-niche-67-six-seven-baby-giraffes-gif-16010540863875585039

[split crown]

the memory leaks shall continue until further notice™

[hallow canopy]

For me its random

with my RX 5700XT

[wanton arch]

the Ram collapse is another issue

the Vram just

idk make your shitty game run at shitty FPS

[hallow canopy]

I am really considering that its Window's fault for not maintaining stability with the system I have

The Hardware has proven itself to be reliable and consistent while playing Stalker 2

but those Random frame drops or vram leaks could be anything

I could blame Stalker 2 for it, but I could also blame my 5 year old GPU

But in the end, what will never be blamed is the OS that maintains that balance between Hardware,Software and running the Game

[split crown]

The super weird part to me is how the game never seemed to use more than like 30%-40%, if that, of my GPU's 8GB of VRAM lol. (I have an RTX 3070)

[wanton arch]

that is def not window issue or game issue

or well it's game issue aka optimization

but it's really vram issue for my case because i switched to 9060XT 16gb

no more inconsistent frame or outright vram failing

[hallow canopy]

You can get as powerful as a GPU as you want, if the software for it doesn't work properly
That potential will never be pushed

That goes for both AMD and Nvidia GPU and they respective software for adapting the work load on to (example) Stalker 2

[split crown]

Damn

[split crown]

Yeah, I've had my eye on upgrading to one of those newer AMD GPUs.

[split crown]

I'm more convinced it's a game issue with the memory leaks; because even people with top-of-the-line PCs were running into optimization issues.

[wanton arch]

i mean that should not be an issue because most GPU driver are supporting it

[split crown]

still are, probably

[wanton arch]

At least

supporting

not fully Running it well

[hallow canopy]

I am still uncertain what it is

I do am considering upgrading my GPU
But then again, Steam Machine is coming around the corner

I do wonder if that thing can Run Stalker 2

[wanton arch]

i mean again it's still unreal engine 5 are getting update nowaday

[wanton arch]

i doubt it can run at 4k

well it can

but it would not run well

[tame lodge]

It has 8GB vram

[hallow canopy]

I am unsure

[late kernel]

Stalker 2 is still unoptimized, lets not kid ourselves

[tame lodge]

It will run 4k with upscaling ultra performance

[late kernel]

There are far better looking games without memory leaking issues

[tame lodge]

At lowest settings

[late kernel]

and better FPS

[hallow canopy]

Stalker 2
UE5
Windows OS
Those ae the ones I consider not optimised

[tame lodge]

It runs a lot better now compared to release atleast

[hallow canopy]

Thats for sure

[wanton arch]

im pretty sure it just ram memory leak in general

and like nothing can fix that shit

[hallow canopy]

My 5 year old RX 5700XT runs Stalker 2 much more smoother

[wanton arch]

consider stalker 2 can just eat 32 GB within 1s of the game memory leak

[hallow canopy]

Could AI-Life be blamed for that??

[wanton arch]

people are expecting the GPU of steam machine are comparable to laptop rx7600m or even better

[hallow canopy]

just something that is processing in the background?

[hallow canopy]

Funny
I am considering the RX 7700XT 12GB as my replacement for 500€
But then the Steam Machine if its 500€ its basically a free Escape from Windows and Microsoft

and if its running Stalker 2
I will get it

[wanton arch]

suppose to be

i mean it's similar to proton or it's proton at this point

and there is a benchmark showing the positive frame boost from proton compared to window

[hallow canopy]

I would rather have a full on brand new PC that has fresh OS for gaming for the price of a new GPU

[split crown]

100%

[hallow canopy]

Could turn my current PC to Linux from Windows 10
But then again
Not sure how much it will screw things up
And I want to continue playing

[wanton arch]

i mean depend again

steam has to deal with Ram price

or IC memory Chip in general

[hallow canopy]

It still Runs Stalker 2 at Medium-High Setting at FSR Upscale of 1080P

with my 5 year old RX 5700XT btw

[tame lodge]

I dont think its gonna be 500 they would have to sell it at a loss

It will be 650-700

Which is bad value imo

[hallow canopy]

even if they sell it at a loss
the economy of selling games on they platform would be enough
As well as the new Controller and VR headset

Beside they arent pressured to do things, they are a private company

[tame lodge]

Yeah but they said they arent subsidizing it

You can find this info online

A bunch of creators already covered it

It should be 500-600

But it wont

[hallow canopy]

And a bunch of people speculated and calculated it

Parts and Logic wise

[tame lodge]

Yep

I hope its not above 600 but it probably will be is what im saying

[hallow canopy]

You take online parts to build the same Steam Machine
It would be around 430€

And logic wise, if its above 600€ people would not want it for the base model

[tame lodge]

Yeah thats what i mean

Its up to valve

But i doubt its 500

[hallow canopy]

Below 500€ it would crumble Console Industry and Steam fighting they way with Xbox and PS

It has to be between 500-600

[tame lodge]

Hope its true cuz id want one as a tv console

[hallow canopy]

Its not a Console
Its a PC

[tame lodge]

Where does it say I cant use it that way

I only want it cuz its small

And compact

So i can shove it in my tv wall and stand and not have to pay insane prices for console games

[hallow canopy]

Nowhere, also doesnt stop you from using a PC as "Console"

[tame lodge]

Idk why you would buy a non upgradable pc

Makes 0 sense

[hallow canopy]

Both the Console and PC have HDMI cables

[hallow canopy]

If its compact,Powerful for average gaming
Its worth it

[tame lodge]

Obsolete in few years time

[hallow canopy]

Games these days cant be pushed anymore,thus bigger and faster GPU arent needed as much
Unless you want over 1k FPS

Look at Stalker
I have 60 FPS average on Medium-High Settings with my 5 Year old GPU

[tame lodge]

At what resolution

And are u using upscaling

[hallow canopy]

1440P

Upscaling also,went from Balanced to Higher picture quality after Stalker 2 got more optimised

[tame lodge]

1440p with a 8GB vram gpu on stalker 2 gotta be ultra performance jesus

[hallow canopy]

more or less

[tame lodge]

If thats ok for you fine

Happy for you

[hallow canopy]

I could go higher with a upgrade of a RX 7700XT OC

However my biggest concern is Windows at the Time since Microsoft axed Windows 10

and getting a Steam machine for 500€ vs my AMD Radeon RX 7700XT OC for 450€ would be more profitable in my eyes

[tame lodge]

Id go for a 9060xt anyway

[hallow canopy]

Nope

[tame lodge]

Fsr4

And 16gb vram

[hallow canopy]

I took calculations
The RX 7700XT OC is Big enough for my Case
Bigger than that (even RX 9060 XT) would not fit my Case

[tame lodge]

Youre telling me there is no 9060xt model that is similar size

[hallow canopy]

wait ill check

[tame lodge]

Sapphire makes small ones

Two fan ones

[hallow canopy]

Literally on Par

if not better

16gb of Vram dont mean shiii if you cant use it

And the Strongest I can go for is the top one

Its big enough to fit my PC Case

Cant go bigger then 280mm

[tame lodge]

Isnt it cheaper now has more vram and fsr4

But you do you

[hallow canopy]

You can simulate the frames with FSR4 and its 16gb of Vram
Or have a powerful enough GPU like the RX 7700XT to process the Graphics

and I am sure it would be a insane upgrade from my RX 5700XT

Well my Saphire Pulse RX 5700XT

She still running Stalker 2 nicely

I am concerned of the Core temperature sitting at 90°C

[tame lodge]

Its 3% difference man

But im done with this convo

Doesnt fit here either

[hallow canopy]

Compared both to Size wise,there is one that would fit
Both are from ASRock
However what scares me the most is the Price
Why is a High end GPU with a 16GB Vram cheaper then a RX7700XT ???

[tame lodge]

Because its newer and 7000 series isnt manufactured anymore

Idk

[hallow canopy]

This is the scary part
How cheap it can be,Makes you wonder if its good if not worse then the RX 7700XT

[tame lodge]

It takes 5 minutes no 30 seconds to google its performance or a video showcasing it

[hallow canopy]

Yea you are correct

Still,something feels off for me

[silver orchid]

Yes but that is just UA-Military reskin

[wanton arch]

bad not really ?

so for a console the steam machine spec is def better than the Xbox/PS5 in a way

but again ram shortage is a huge issue

[tired flicker]

well decided to see how performance changed

[wanton arch]

it will affect other thing

so if you saying it will drop at 800 it's mean it's at a good price

for a tiny ass fucking PC cube

An ITX build at that size would cost much more than 800 yk

[tired flicker]

this is native 4k, with everything on ultra, with dlss on for dlaa improvements (native 4k no upscalling)

id say it got better

[hallow canopy]

insanely better

however, I didnt do 1 thing what I will do now

its enable SAM for my AMD Setup what I havent done

[split crown]

oh it's 4k

yeah that checks out

[tame lodge]

People made similar builds for 500-600

Idk why it would be for 800

I sure as hell wouldnt buy it for that much

If you want a pc you can buy a proper one with better specs for 800

If you want a console you can buy a ps5 cuz its dirt cheap rn for black friday cyber monday

[wanton arch]

ITX build...

are you sure

[tame lodge]

If people think getting to play steam games and not having to pay online is worth 800 then i guess the overpricing is justified

[wanton arch]

you want to compare a game cube that is the size of

4 hands

yk what

[tame lodge]

Im telling you go on yt people buit a similar sized build for 500-600

Matter of fact i will link it to you

[wanton arch]

are you sure

like the spec has to be on pair with 7600X and RX7600M or even better

at the size that can fit inside your backpack

At the same time

is the YT clip

Revalued their PC into the correct up to date PC price components

https://tenor.com/view/posted-up-baby-niche-67-six-seven-baby-giraffes-gif-16010540863875585039

[tame lodge]

https://youtu.be/iimfDdRBtGo?si=yU6K9F5aTQ25kejC

Its a 28CU gpu

It aint better than a 7600x or on par bruh

Its gonna be a 7600m

[wanton arch]

only AM4 ehhh

oh wait the cube is still a smaller

[tame lodge]

Wow by a couple cm

Its not worth discussing this

[wanton arch]

that does matter

dude

[tame lodge]

Jesus christ they could sell you a toaster if it has a valve logo on it

[wanton arch]

lemme re check because the spec of the CPU is the newer radeon shit

hold up

[tame lodge]

Ryzen, radeon is GPUs

[wanton arch]

rx6600mx ?

[tame lodge]

Yes

Similar performance 28CUs

[wanton arch]

why the clip does not tell the overall price

hold upo

[warped monolith]

you're saying this while being way more invested in this discussion than anyone else

[wanton arch]

people expecting it to be hawkpoint refresh

[warped monolith]

anime exposition dialogue be like

[wanton arch]

so true.

it's either pro 220 CPU or Pro 230

but im leaning into 2p core and 4e core

basically 2 good 4 shit

[tame lodge]

Cuz i keep getting @

[wanton arch]

he chose 5600

i doubt his hardware is better than the steam machine itself

[warped monolith]

[wanton arch]

i mean good thing is it's AM4 with DDR4 so idk you only have to deal minimal price via Actual Shortage due to no one supplying

like no one making DDR4 right now

or the DDR4 PCB

[shadow stirrup]

xi jimping looks really cool on ur pfp

[tame lodge]

Thanks man

Belly full of honey and matrix fit on

[wanton arch]

nah man you should expect the price of the steam machine to be at 700$-800$

i really cannot see it go lower than 600$

im not sure even steam machine even use DDR style or custom PCB

oh wait it's DDR5

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G6rYuIkWkAAQg2i.gif

[shadow stirrup]

methane check

[wanton arch]

god i wish this is true for every single day

but again you should expect newer PS5 / Xbox to be revalued into higher price

either from the vendor/retailler bumping the price for no reason for most ram you could find

or it's just sony or microsoft trying not to lose profit

[wanton arch]

• this is a prebuilt in ITX size

and can it run Stalker 2

https://tenor.com/view/posted-up-baby-niche-67-six-seven-baby-giraffes-gif-16010540863875585039

this shit need more optimization

[jaunty bear]

i finished the game yesterday

[wanton arch]

All the ending ?

[tired flicker]

Yes, no framegen, using dlss as a form of AA not for upscaling with rtx4070 and i5 6600k @4.5ghz

[split crown]

gotcha

[tired flicker]

Jumping to 1440p the fps straight up almost doubled, both cases no real low drops, that was as low as it went

Empty scenery fps went thru the roof tho

After running a few tests I can for sure say that the people saying that it's still a blurry laggy mess (never was for me), still haven't updated to meet hardware requirements

[wanton arch]

Blurry laggy mess could be just them running frame gen + high setting

With awful Or shitty AA

Eh they need to show the setting

[tired flicker]

oh thats for sure

when I saw stalker 2 reqs being released 2 things I did - upgrade gpu and double my ram

and those unplayable performance issues people have been talking about since launch... well I did not see them

[rotund mantle]

What do you got?

[tired flicker]

Rtx 4070, 32gb ddr4 3000mhz ram, stalker is on my m.2 nvme and i5 6600k running @4.5ghz

[rotund mantle]

Nice setup there 👌

[tired flicker]

People look at my CPU and call it outdated, cuz they only look at base clock speeds, its a K series, of course it will be overclocked

[rotund mantle]

Fr overclocking is such a nice feature

[silver orchid]

is sooooo weird see a RTX 4070 with that processor

[tired flicker]

Genuinely don't a see a reason to upgrade my CPU unless it dies

If I turn up my water pump to max, and slightly increase voltage I was stable at 5.1ghz

Time to see how much optimization I can pull to maximize settings for max fps and max quality, there's goes another few hours

[hallow canopy]

Well one thing I wanted to enable has lead me down a road I didnt wanted to go,but had to go thro regardless

Just for This

[slow cave]

Come on man don’t say that…the swarm of stalker 2 riders coming at you now

But nah I agree

It’s still not optimized good; it’s better yes way better

But still not good; a good optimized game doesn’t jump up and down frames, doesn’t need dlss or aa to make it not pixelly

And the kicker is it all looks worse than ue4 but runs worse

[tacit yew]

i love STALKER 2 but i will admit it's not worth the price or your time and effort

the story is lowkey half-baked and just feels like you're only doing someone else's dirty work

the gameplay/gunplay is decent if you can get past the severe frame drops every 30 minutes and nonsensical Zone layout compared to what it used to be

[silver orchid]

Well, that's of just feels that u are doing the work of someone else is how it's writted the plot

[tacit yew]

even then it feels like they swung too hard into the FPS aspect instead of the RPG aspect that made STALKER good to begin with

i'm more or less just saying that with the first game you had your own goal and it felt like the things you do were basically solely to gain footing on that goal

[warped monolith]

[tacit yew]

in 2 it's kinda just "go to location, kill thing, choose between choice for faction A or B, and then backtrack"

but also it's UE5 which is a slop engine that steals the soul of any game contained within it

[warped monolith]

lmao

[tacit yew]

with that being said the problems for PC aren't nearly as bad for console players, and I suspect that's because UE5 was a console-centric engine lowkey

[hallow canopy]

I will say it this way
The Valuable info that GSC got from the community to improve the game would not have been possible if it wasn't launched too early

[tacit yew]

and don't get me wrong i don't mean to come across as contrarian or anything

[hallow canopy]

They want Stalker 2 to turn into well, a Stalker game
And the best way to do that is let the players work with GSC

If it wasnt for the countless bug reports, GSC would have never fixed this many

[rotund mantle]

Idk if UE5 is a console engine as I can make top tier pcs struggle

[warped monolith]

why not release it as a stalker game from the beginning

[tacit yew]

My current viewpoint is that S2 1.7 had these flashy "performance improvements" in the patch notes that are nonexistent, you gotta mod it

[warped monolith]

the shill is real

[warped monolith]

too late for that I'm afraid lol

[tacit yew]

i'm saying that the performance issues on pc aren't as bad on console, for S2 at least, idk about other titles like borderlands 4

[tacit yew]

i'm sure it doesn't help that this was my first time posting to this server lmao

[warped monolith]

it's more that you used every buzzword in the book... all in the same message

[tacit yew]

i just closed S2 so those were definitely charged messages

[summer vapor]

UE 5 is good

[tacit yew]

i think it has potential to some extent but released in an unrefined state

[hallow canopy]

I will give you a good reason
Its not 2005 where games are smaller than 5GB and didnt had complex Engines running the game
As well as the much needed Graphics to run them as well.
How do you fix a game if its already on CD and needs but fixes??
You make a entier new CD AS WELL as try and communicate with the community of said game.

You are looking at Stalker 2 a Game that is as big as 160GB of content
To manage that would need a shit load of optimisation that GSC has No manpower to prioritise Game Testers
And for those Game Testers you hire would have needed to play the Previous games
So in the best of they abilities they turned to US,the Fans that would report on it,basically free feedback
It comes at a Price but one that can pay off well if you stick around
Look Cyberpunk 2077 or best example No Man's Sky with its VAST content

So no, Stalker 2 isnt here at fault, its your perspective

[tacit yew]

i know in like 2012 after CoP released they had a Stalker 2 in the works that would've used their proprietary engine

i wonder how that would've turned out

[summer vapor]

nothing but speculation and guesswork

[warped monolith]

so... my perspective is wrong and it's actually ok to release unfinished games

[hallow canopy]

Yep I prefer Stalker 2 being worked on this way

Slowly improving a Insanley huge game

[warped monolith]

early access exists for a reason
they sold a 70$ game as a "full" product

[hallow canopy]

My man, I just updated Bios after 5 years
Think its my fault for not optimising my sh*t to play Stalker 2

[warped monolith]

I'm not talking about optimization...

[hallow canopy]

And if you look at Stalker 2 vs the Trilogy
Look how much of a difference in Engine there is

[tacit yew]

there are reasons why it's good and reasons why it's bad - we have Anomaly and Gamma to make up for the downsides of S2 until it becomes what we want

[hallow canopy]

Do not compare those together with Stalker 2 as they arent what a Stalker game Should be

[tacit yew]

well, neither is stalker 2

[hallow canopy]

It actually is

Do show me in the Trilogy where you need a part by part weapon degredation system

[tacit yew]

well, agree to disagree. i gotta go to work

[warped monolith]

stalker 2 is almost identical to the original trilogy, with prettier graphics and about twice as many issues but it's a very faithful sequel

and the devs have stated it's a sequel to the original games, not a sequel to anomaly/gamma or whatever other modpack

they never intended to make it a milsim hobo simulator where you have to assemble a gun from nothing

[hallow canopy]

Gamma/Anomaly are a Fan made game to say the least

Still I would rather have Stalker 2 being worked on bit by bit and improve the overall game by the fans rather then have a fully finished game and then have the GTA 6 Memes we all see

Its literally driving people nuts at this point

[warped monolith]

good, weed out the weak

[hallow canopy]

More like it will weed out the weak away from Stalker 2 like Mr.Autum over there

[rotund mantle]

Hes gotta go to work

[tacit yew]

i think you're making it personal for no reason

[hallow canopy]

You see Stalker 2 as a Unfinished game
I see phenomenal Potential that can be Improved

[warped monolith]

ppl who can't wait for a videogame should go get a different hobby

no need to be stuck in the past waiting for something that's either going to take 10+ years to happen or will not happen at all

[hallow canopy]

You tell me,I have over 300 games on Steam,Yet I play Stalker 2 more

[warped monolith]

no point

[hallow canopy]

if I wanted to play the Trilogy, I can

Dont like Gamma or Anomaly?
well no big issue, but to paint the ones who made the games as bad studio at work
and a terrible game is one perspective needed to be adjusted

Stalker 2 is probably the only game I know that has been made in a active War/Warzone

[warped monolith]

original trilogy was delisted from steam it seems
only the "enhanced edition" versions are available there now

what a time to be alive

at least gog still has them

[hallow canopy]

No I dont think
I believe when you buy them, you get the Original Trilogy too

I got all the new ones for free

[rotund mantle]

Oh if you buy enhanced they come with og trilogy still

[hallow canopy]

Yep, as expected

Also to give a perspective
CD Projekt Red that has over 1200 people working on said title The Witcher and Cyberpunk hasnt managed to nail Cyberpunk
Yet GSC with they around 460 people working on Stalker 2 and doing they utmost best to improve the game isnt respectable enough?

[warped monolith]

"other companies do worse" isn't an excuse

they're not immune to criticism because 'muh warzone' either

[hallow canopy]

yee that one also

I've also found a fun way to fight off Burer's

Take a Nade,get up to him,gently toss it, run

[warped monolith]

skif's pistol. They can't yank it off your hand

[hallow canopy]

Nah, I find hot potato play with em more funny

[warped monolith]

are they immune to all damage when they have their shield up? or only bullets?

[hallow canopy]

They are immune with the shield up

but he wont raise it,as the Nade has a Delay

[warped monolith]

to everything, even melee?

[hallow canopy]

Yup

[warped monolith]

[hallow canopy]

He is in fact the most clever Mutant of them all

The Controller is 2nd because he dont know how to use a gun

while the Burer can use even a RPG

[ionic night]

what

no fucking way

[warped monolith]

enhanced edition owners get the OG games in their library as well

according to the boys here

OG games are available separately on gog

[ionic night]

fair enough then

thats even better tbf

if only the price is right

[hallow canopy]

I cant confirm if you get the OG ones too when buying the Enhanced edition
Because I have all of em

[trim iron]

Indeed

[flint escarp]

hmm, i bought the ultimate edition but didnt get clear sky

[hallow canopy]

what ultimate edition?
There is only Stalker Complete Bundle and Stalker Legends of the Zone Trilogy

[silver orchid]

sometimes the EE it's at 24$, depends on the region

[flint escarp]

bruh, on steam its literally called the ultimate edition

[reef kite]

why do bloodsuckers have so many health points wtf

why am I playing against tanks

[warped monolith]

stalker 2 ultimate edition does not include the first trilogy

[silver orchid]

IMO the EE isn't worth that 24$, when in my case i get the trilogy i get it at 6.68$ (by separate), when the "bundle" was 8$

[reef kite]

where do you get the trilogy for 6 or so ?

[silver orchid]

Steam
the trilogy was like at 75% of discount, like, almost always

[rotund mantle]

Cop shoulda been the the cheapest for being the shortest game tbh

[reef kite]

oh yeah not anymore :(

i'm kinda pissed I never got it

[silver orchid]

EE should be like at 15$, 24$ (without discount) is much for it.

[reef kite]

like the three games ?

[silver orchid]

yes, i think that buy the bundle is the normal thingi

[reef kite]

I only see that

[silver orchid]

40 euros

[reef kite]

yeah it's kinda fucked up

I do not care for the EE

[hallow canopy]

I am really unsure if you get the OG with the EE

You could buy the first one and Refund it if the OG arent included

[reef kite]

you do

[hallow canopy]

I have all 3 OG already including the EE

Got the EE for free because I had the OG

Dont know if you get them included

[rotund mantle]

you do

they delisted ogs cuz they come with ee

[tired flicker]

some things never change

[unborn kelp]

are weapons and suits still made of soggy cardboard/imported from BotW?

[ionic night]

CoP is the best tho

its not the shortest either, its filled with a bunch of shit

[hallow canopy]

I think I know why the Memory leak happens

The Shadows

[tardy meadow]

stalker2 should have had levels and a perk tree imo

and legendary drop weapons with unique effects

[split crown]

Would have probably dramatically improved the game's performance lmao

[tardy meadow]

goty right there

[tardy meadow]

wait what, how so?

[split crown]

Because if the game only has to load up one region at a time (where ever you, as the player, currently are), then it should be much less stress on your PC's hardware. Right?

Whereas instead, the entire game's regions are loaded at all times except for maybe when you're in underground areas

[tardy meadow]

not sure how that's related to levels and perk trees

oh wait by levels you thought i meant how areas work in the og games

i meant like player level and XP xD

well i said that jokingly

i think the issue with s2 is memory leaks and poor lightning optimization

[warped monolith]

he meant levels as in... character levels. like a RPG

[split crown]

Oh

[warped monolith]

because the extremely intelligent person up there said Stalker 2 should've had more of the "RPG aspect that made STALKER good"

[split crown]

I totally misread that shit

damn

my bad dude

[warped monolith]

I'm still trying to figure out what RPG aspects the dude up there meant

[split crown]

yeah I thought he meant closed off map levels + a talent tree system

wrong assumption

[silver orchid]

tho, HoC should have more RPG thingis

[split crown]

I agree, it'd be neat

[silver orchid]

in story thingis the HoC RPG thingis are like SoC-CoP ones mixed

[warped monolith]

like what

[split crown]

Yeah lol, I totally misunderstood what you were typing.

[warped monolith]

people were already whining that stalker 2 is "far cry in chernobyl"

[tardy meadow]

artifacts i think

[split crown]

Yeah, the memory leaks drive me crazy.

[silver orchid]

In story thingis should have more choices, and to my personal taste... SPECIAL THINGIS WITH LEVELS

[tardy meadow]

i saved to buy a gaming rig just to play stalker 2 and man im really regreting buying a rtx 5060

like for my budget that was my only option but man 8gb vram is REALLY bad

this GPU is able to run at dlaa dlss epic but i keep having to change my settings because of vram issues

[silver orchid]

imagine skifa having a level more of "Anomalous skifa" that increase the endurance to electric anomalies

[split crown]

Haha
Yeah

My 3070 only has 8gb of VRAM too

[flint escarp]

lol, shoulda just done a 4070S, same price double the performance

[split crown]

I wish I'd grabbed a 4080 super before prices for them went stupid high.

[tardy meadow]

not here

sadly GPUs are absurdly expensive here so the RTX 5060 was really my only option

like the RTX 5060 ti 16gb costs 200usd more

[warped monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1351304623406714971/SKEEFA.gif

[split crown]

I just simply don't trust the 50 series GPUs, man. They were made with AI means in mind; so the 40 series was what I wanted to opt for as an upgrade from my 3070.

[flint escarp]

i usually do the every other gen cycle just like with windows OS. I have a 2080S, now a 4070S, ill gladly wait for the 60 series

[split crown]

Yeah

idk man

I'm kinda worried the 60 series will still just be focused on AI slop lol.

Just gotta wait and see I guess.

[tardy meadow]

why not buy an amd card

[split crown]

but your method of upgrading every other cycle is spot on imo.

[split crown]

Also thought about that too.

[flint escarp]

nah, i think ai is falling off and only being targeted now for select things. Consumers reacted horribly to ai for hardware so i would easily bet the next gen will not have it

[split crown]

I can only hope so.

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-gif-14251978375826396304

[flint escarp]

or better yet, the Zeus start happen actually does what they say and decimates the gpu market

you hear about the zeus cards?

[split crown]

I haven't, no

[lunar yarrow]

i do

[nimble ruin]

Hey y'all, does anyone have any idea what causes this?

[warped monolith]

holy shit wtf

never saw anything like that before

[nimble ruin]

Me neither! I've not seen any similar screens over on search engines either

[late kernel]

game is fixed, guys!

[nimble ruin]

The black on the right is from the second monitor btw

[nimble ruin]

I'm not putting it on GSC just yet, it might just as well be nShitified

[ivory coyote]

Upscaling issue, try different ones

I had this too on DLSS

[nimble ruin]

The setting is DLAA though?

[ivory coyote]

Ah, weird, was maybe caused by something else then

[nimble ruin]

But thanks for the tip, I'll try switching it when it shows up again

[flint escarp]

bruh....why am i such a pack mule lol

[nimble ruin]

I wish I could turn off TAA

[flint escarp]

why cant u?

[nimble ruin]

Everything breaks

You get even worse artifacts than the regular temporal ones

[vivid willow]

Do you guys know why the three line rifle is like this:

It's also bugged and can't switch ammo types. I'm not sure why

[vivid willow]

I heard that this was caused by having your motion blur disabled.

[slow cave]

It’s just a better 40 series by a little bit

Ai is just when it’s turned on; I wouldn’t get it because it’s a small upgrade from 40 series

But the ai ain’t a big deal; it’s just how they use it. If they go full ai we are cooked but if they improve a lot baseline power unlike the 50 series and ad more ai that would also work

I just hate they are thinking of cutting the budget cards out entirely now

[split crown]

yeah

I miss when GPUs weren't like $1,000+

[nimble ruin]

Please tell me you're making that up 🥺

Motion blue is arguably worse than taa

[fiery vector]

what did tea do 😭

oh

OH nvm

[split crown]

that'd be really odd if that issue was being caused by disabling motion blur.

[slow cave]

If you translate the 1080ti price into real world prices today it’s not even a drastic increase

Just they want insane profit margins

I want the 5050 to be 150$ that’s it; then I’d be like the world is healing

But nooo the 5090 is 3k or more

[split crown]

Lmao pretty much

[slow cave]

I hate how it’s like “you want over 60 fps in your new games? We can but it’s expensive”

Then companies like… GSC

Make it hard to run and you need an expensive card

They shove you back into the machine

[tacit yew]

alright akright not one of those rpgs

idk S2 isn't inherently bad

just makes me feel like i got brain scorched when i try to run it

[wooden glade]

DLSS/DLAA is bugged right now, use TAA as alternative while GSC fixes this

[tacit yew]

||last time i did a full playthrough i got the Strelok ending and idk how to feel about it||

[nimble ruin]

Cheers!

[warped cedar]

I keep losing health randomly in tiny incriments

I've taken anti rad, used a bandage, even just got healed from the doc

I have all my artis off, not over weight limit, I'm fed

I'm lost

Just ate more, still losing hp

I've enabled godmode just to try and find the problem

Can't sleep either

Just induced bleeding with a flesh, no change

Not radiation

Dialogue pauses the HP loss

It's not psi radiation either

ok so my fucking save is just bugged. I guess

TIME TO REMOVE OXA AGAIN AND RESPAWN ALL MY SHIT AGAIN

[summer vapor]

Mods?

[warped cedar]

Before it started I removed OXA, loaded the save, saved, exited, and adding back OXA (trader crash fix)

And sometime after that I ended up taking damage in tiny amounts

[wanton arch]

This is just a joke right

😭

[wanton arch]

Hard to run or not we are not in the time where the game is optimized for certain pc specs

Like how the fuck they know that yall going to rock like GT 970 or 3050

Steam does

I mean game testers prob even have high end pc to test it

You should blame The engine usages anyways

[slim moth]

this game is definitely tailored for the rtx 5000 series

coming from a 4070s it's a night and day difference

[wanton arch]

Yup

I mean few optimization update

You should expect your hardware to have the same power as the ps5 level

And similar technology to a ps5

[shadow stirrup]

||is there a way to side with beard or sultan instead of kalyna?||

[slow cave]

Optimized for high end gpus

[wanton arch]

No ?

[slow cave]

Nah I’m kidding

[summer vapor]

Some of them can be problematic

[slow cave]

Just saying how bad it’s still optimized

And we can’t deny s2 is badly optimized

It’s just getting patches now

[golden hazel]

HoC Tuah

[outer depot]

||when you get the mission to snipe them, just don't and snipe the mercs she sends instead||

[shadow stirrup]

||what if i snipe everyone except beard? he takes over the ships?||

[outer depot]

||not afaik, he and Sultan come to a mutual agreement to split the ship and Beard is back in his usual spot if you betray Kalyna||

[shadow stirrup]

wish we had more choices in this mission its a shame

||there's a really good ar15 in sultan's sniper nest, I already sided with kalyna but it was worth it||

[wanton arch]

I rather blame the #Israeliengine

[shadow stirrup]

many modern games run like shit and look grainy/blurry for some reason

but honestly S2 runs better than some other modern games I play

[wanton arch]

Arc raider RAH

[shadow stirrup]

they are both UE5 but Squad runs like much, MUCH worse

also looks more grainy

I'm not saying S2s performance is good but better than what I expected atp

[wanton arch]

I like how it will take longer for people to fully understand to use unreal engine

[outer depot]

Squad legit runs at like 20 FPS most of the time

on a good day

[shadow stirrup]

some ppl just quit because they couldn't play anymore because of the UE4 to UE5 update

its sad

[outer depot]

the most unrealistic part of stalker 2: Skif manages to get the AK-74 dust cover to seat properly on the first attempt

[wanton arch]

Hes well trained

It's that simple tbh

[shadow stirrup]

its just a skill that every slavic men have from birth

[outer depot]

I've done it hundreds of times and it still sometimes just pops off the tab anyways and needs a second attempt lol

[wanton arch]

Nah

I mean sure

One hand

💔

[shadow stirrup]

green furniture too

[wanton arch]

It's real

🥀

[outer depot]

Ya gotta fiddle fuck with it sometimes unless you get it absolutely perfect

At least on my 74

[wanton arch]

The first stroke fail because i did not push + slam down

[shadow stirrup]

never handled an ak before looks easy to me

[wanton arch]

It's

[outer depot]

If you two hand its way easier true

[wanton arch]

All you do is push it in an angle way

Not downward only

(That is why I failed on the first stroke)

Rah

But eh i cannot do what skif did

[outer depot]

Wait a second good god man what’s going on with your rear trunnion

[wanton arch]

Tbf it's not a real gun but metal 1 to 1 replica used for training

[outer depot]

I got very confused for a moment

[wanton arch]

They welded a metal block in it

💔

[shadow stirrup]

fine... I'll buy a mosin

[outer depot]

$900 I know what I got

[slow cave]

Yes

But this is crap too

Also arc raiders and battlefield are the only really good running ones

[wanton arch]

Yall need to check if any upscaling or aa on

💔

Then you have lumen

[warped cedar]

New bug baby

Can't sleep status ailment

With NO AILMENTS

[wanton arch]

[warped cedar]

AND FUCKING BEARD IS MISSING

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!

!?!?!?!?

[karmic sphinx]

Hey I was wondering if the game is in a state where playing through it is a good experience, or should I wait longer?

[warped cedar]

Can't sleep because I have an ailment I cannot find or do not have, Beard is missing, Traders crash my game but that's a mod issue

[karmic sphinx]

I played it on launch and the QC seemed to fall off a cliff after ||SIRCAA||

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-unmatched-power-of-the-sun-sun-power-cop-gif-22776276

[tacit glacier]

My brain got so rotted by the internet that I can hear the "FAAA" sound effect in this gif.

[shadow stirrup]

WHAT IS THIS AND WHATS HAPPENING TO MY AIM

am I overdosing on energy drinks

[tacit glacier]

Yes

Don't drink multiple cans in one go, it causes

Tremors

[orchid zealot]

Does MO2 work for managing mods on STALKER2? Vortex looks like garbage, and it's either MO2 or I manually do it lol

[tacit glacier]

MO2 is messy from my experience, Vortex works out of the box and knows where to put files on it's own, lol

Also you can do modpacks using Vortex

[kindred violet]

I'd recommend doing it manual

Since vortex can and will be fucky if you remove mods

[tacit glacier]

Like

Rusted Dawn Collection

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1561

[orchid zealot]

Interesting, I'm very use to MO2, so that sucks. But idk about Vortex, I looked at it, and it hurts to look at. Whoever did the graphics design on Vortex should be fired

[tacit glacier]

Not updated to 1.7 yet, but this was basically a one click in Vortex to set up an entire mod list and load order

Which ngl was much easier than manually downloading and installing the mods beforehand

[orchid zealot]

I mean that's fair. I remember doing this shit for SoC back in the olden days

[tacit glacier]

Man don't remind me

[orchid zealot]

[tacit glacier]

I remember that one time I wanted to add a sleeping bag mod to Shadow of Chernobyl

I overwrote files like a dumbass

Then find out
"You need to merge these mfs"

[orchid zealot]

Idk I'm not planning to install any big mods/overhauls until the game is mostly settled. I don't feel like having my modpack break the moment the game updates and then having to wait for people to update mods.

plus still waiting til some of the major mods get more polished.

base game is pretty good as is with 1.7 so it's not so bad.

I wanna like craftable zone for instance, but holy hell the UI looks like garbage

[warped cedar]

Chat I need a hand. Do I go deeper into the swamps to finish this leg of the quest

or do I go the fuck home and regear

the G36 might save me in a pinch but otherwise I'm in for a rough time

[orchid zealot]

I might try OXA prototype though, seems cool.

[warped cedar]

I got... 5 stims left for heals

[warped cedar]

That's what I'm using rn

it's pretty alright when your traders don't crash your game

[kindred violet]

You might wanna go drop of all the unnecessary stuff

[warped cedar]

The parts I absolutely wanna sell, the small items too. I got some hercules but once I hit the point where you're more powerwalking instead of running, that's when I might ditch a few things

[kindred violet]

Do drop your stuff off before the swamp, you'll be slow enough anyway, so don't want to be slowed down even more

[warped cedar]

It's a bit too late for 'before'

my inv was tidy before I got here

[orchid zealot]

I know once the game settles down, I wanna try out those freeplay mods I'm seeing

but until then, I wait for DLCs

[warped cedar]

POLTERGEIST CHIMERA WOMBO COMBO

WOW

[wanton arch]

The average swamp life cycle

[sinful dawn]

swamps in 2 are hateful af

[tacit glacier]

tf does "Call of Pripyat (Stand-alone)" even mean?

[orchid zealot]

The call of pripyat stands alone.

[warped cedar]

You've gotta be fucking kidding me

Fight a pseudo, over a dozen fleshes, a pack of boar, and it's NOT HERE

IT'S IN THE ROCK

[warped cedar]

This is such horseshit.

[shadow stirrup]

too much walking maaannn

hiking simulator

I'm a gamma player i need constant stimulation

[warped cedar]

Got out with a nice haul

Also killed that prick of a chimera

The saiga is mine

[orchid zealot]

finally starting my second playthrough after waiting for patches for awhile this is gonna be a ward playthrough.

[warped cedar]

I finally fucking get back to the Skadovsk

I finally can unload my mutant parts and gear

I go to owl

Game crashes

kms

I fucking lova OXA prototype

[orchid zealot]

I went with strelok the first playthrough but I'm gonna go full ward I think.

and try to mop up some of the achievements i missed this go around hopefully. idk how I didn't get four winds my first playthrough. I explored what I thought was the entier map lol

[warped cedar]

You mean Spark?

[wanton arch]

Strelok is not with spark

That is a spoiler idk

[orchid zealot]

no?

[warped cedar]

Ah, never got that far

[orchid zealot]

spark ending is siding with scar

also, I don't remember poltergeists throwing objects through walls...

new bug with 1.7 I take it?

playing master diff and the first poltergeist at the beginning of the game is actually impossible to kill because he just one shots me through the wall

[warped cedar]

I decided to just

run past it

and grab the AP ammo in the stash

[orchid zealot]

yeah I'm gonna have too lol

[warped cedar]

uh...

Can't progress story mission because

I have a sleep bug

Anyone got a fix for this?

[orchid zealot]

Master + OXA Prototype is absolutely bonkers brutal.

[tired flicker]

Since last time I did a playthrough was in 1.0.3, is it safe to add new models in-game now?

[tired flicker]

Mid save I mean

[warped cedar]

FOUND A FIX

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/244?tab=posts

[finite needle]

Lmao

[icy basin]

О, попался

[eager solstice]

@serene viper (jesseheisenberg.) has been banned for reason: Joins, only activity in a week is insulting English speakers.

[simple vault]

Базу ж выдал)

[icy basin]

Объясни

[simple vault]

Ну ничего оскорбительного не было, просто по традиции в англоязычный чат написать рофлянку

[icy basin]

Пусть на своих серверах так делает

[remote eagle]

[shadow stirrup]

why r u guys speaking stalker

[icy basin]

Волыну убрал

[shadow stirrup]

da

[icy basin]

Пизда

(I'll wrap it up there lmao)