╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[kindred violet]

Ue5 paks be like

[onyx osprey]

well Duga looks nice i guess even tho the artefacting from UE5 makes it look dogshit

[mossy jasper]

Update log: "removed bush in Yantar"
Size: 50 gb

[onyx osprey]

dont midn the Monolothians on my right fighting Dutyers

[golden hazel]

I remember when a 110gb update straight up broke my gpu drivers and the game wouldn't launch anymore

[kindred violet]

Damn, it broke your expectations

[mossy jasper]

Best part

[golden hazel]

It did

[kindred violet]

[mossy jasper]

It was treated as 2 separate 100 gb programs

So my whole drive was full

[kindred violet]

Also love how you basically need double the space of an update free on your drive yeah

[mossy jasper]

I had to reinstall it to a separate drive

Then install the update

AND THEN switch it back to the original

[golden hazel]

The funniest part of the updates had to have been the memory leaks

Ah, good memories

[mossy jasper]

"Sometimes the game explodes"

"What"

"Like there's a timer and then it shits the bed and explodes"

[onyx osprey]

The fact it works is an anomaly of its own

[mossy jasper]

Thank you fallout NV

You taught me well

[golden hazel]

Actually wait no the funniest update bug was when it corrupted one of my save files and deleted all the npcs from the world

[onyx osprey]

funny enough i play vanilla FNV and it only crashes after like 8 hours of continuous playing

otherwise only when i notice a physics bug

[mossy jasper]

"I wish the zone never existed" ahh ending

[golden hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1351304623406714971/SKEEFA.gif

[mossy jasper]

That's the memory leak

[onyx osprey]

Scar is trully a character in a game

[mossy jasper]

The fucking game literally doesn't turn off areas

If you go through 2 different zones

They are ON until you leave the game

Meaning every few hours the game rage quits

[mossy jasper]

You can tell they made it in 1 year

[kindred violet]

Who cares about memory leaks when you have an ungodly amount of ram

[golden hazel]

[mossy jasper]

If you take Gamma as cannon until stalker 2 Scar was eating cocaine and heroin while surving emissions

[onyx osprey]

Scar is such an anomaly that the video doesnt even play for me

[kindred violet]

Using gamma and canon in one sentence is certainly a take

[golden hazel]

You should go rip the copper wire out of a Warden's body, they're all robots, SKEEFA

[mossy jasper]

C-group didn't even do anything to bro he was just broken from being forced to play Clear sky

[onyx osprey]

ngl having about 800 bandages in my locker seems a bit excesive

[golden hazel]

It's not

[onyx osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-huh-what-excuse-me-what-did-you-say-gif-16867350

[golden hazel]

Especially if you run into an infinite spawn

I don't know if they've fixed them yet

[onyx osprey]

did run in an infinite 9x18 ammo spawn on my other save

tahts like release

[golden hazel]

I mean enemies

Especially late game

Where if you stub your toe on a sidewalk you bleed

[onyx osprey]

one thing im happy

thank god there are enough Guides at least for now

to take me back and forth where i need

cuz ngl the walking in S2 is kinda insane

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker2-nonstop-gif-7385508345518191769

[onyx osprey]

i carry 25 of those on me

can i please not need more

[golden hazel]

I used to carry like 40 of those on every restock

My Skeefa was 70% Energy Drinks, 10% whatever is in the first aid needles, and 20% Bread and wrapped in so many bandages it counted as armor

[onyx osprey]

now i need to walk 1km from Rostok

bro GSC

please

well guess im picking up another 10 drinks

Anomaly has really spoiled me with the teleports i wont lie

[golden hazel]

Get the sprite suit, SKEEFA, fill the air canisters with energy drinks

[kindred violet]

I love the extra equipment thingies that oxa adds, especially the boots since it increases movement speed

So you just use a max stamina regen with 4 boots and pop a pill that also increases your speed and boom

Rocket skif

[golden hazel]

In the OT we call that the femur breaker

[onyx osprey]

i jsut met a guy named Mongoose

really , fuck that guy

[tacit glacier]

They said 1.7 will make drinking too many energy drinks will have adverse effects

[icy basin]

Skif shits himself pog

[onyx osprey]

Perfect!! I'll be able to immerse myself with peeing over 8 times a day by drinking copius amounts of energy drinks

[icy basin]

https://youtu.be/tAtaIZD0Ebs dis u?

[lofty badger]

it was insanely funny for owning people who picked veteran and then complained about the difficulty though

[lofty badger]

what s2's story really needed was more hype moments and aura

[wanton arch]

Consider max difficulty in older triology is like

making the game slightly easier

ok tbh in 1.6 vanilia i cannot KILL a blood sucker with MP5 BECAUSE IT 2 TAP ME BEFORE I PUT 4 9mm TO THEIR HEAD

[lofty badger]

is this anomaly or version number for one of the trilogy games

[wanton arch]

ok sure i soft locked my ass by finding that as val in cordon in early game

[wanton arch]

the triology

[lofty badger]

is that the one you jump over the rostok gate for

I was super sweaty and did a 9x39mm only run using that thing

[wanton arch]

the cave artefact ?

wait that is the one with controller

i mean the one where you collect artefact for whatever dude in lesser zone

yeah 2 instant where i got myself soft locked

[lofty badger]

oh I was thinking the gate you have to get opened by duty before you can go meet barkeep

[wanton arch]

i mean the intro can soft lock people

[lofty badger]

I think you're thinking of the one in agroprom unless it's some CS stuff I don't know about

OK I'm lost

[wanton arch]

Look i mean the Vet difficulty is just so dif from the vet in triology

the mutant is the main reason

[lofty badger]

I haven't played since 1.0 cause I wanted to feel the 1 year of development difference but I played on the middle difficulty and the chimera took forever to kill even with a ram-2

[wanton arch]

like my ass almost doomed by the Blood sucker in the intro
Controller in As val cave ( cordon )
Blood sucker in Lesser zone

i swear you have to run from it

[lofty badger]

ah this is s2 - that one I actually like because it lets you know this game won't be a pushover like the trilogy games were with mutants

[wanton arch]

if you don't have RPG

[lofty badger]

in original you could kill bloodsucker with a pistol and it made the fact stalkers were scared of them less immersive, in s2 (at least in 1.0) it was way more believable

I'm a big Games Are Cooler When They're Hard guy though so biased in that regard

[wanton arch]

it was more mysterious in the triology due to how hard you could find one

[lofty badger]

I did first time I played, was very worth it cause I saved like all my buckshot and 9mm 🧌

[wanton arch]

sure you can kill if you have dead eye

consider this happened when i try to do the Swamp

[lofty badger]

I love that they call it the temple of science lmfao

praying to charles darwin I don't get coal in my stocking

[tacit glacier]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XSFtvtluSaQ

[tawdry marsh]

How possible y'll think is to see something like an Anomaly/GAMMA for Stalker 2?

[summer vapor]

As soon as the SDK becomes fully functional

[tawny vessel]

Unlikely
Anomaly was mostly made possibly by a leak of the source code

[tawdry marsh]

I didn't know that, I guess that explains how Anomaly changes so much from the base game

I'd really love a Stalker GAMMA but in Stalker 2, that would be the best survival experience imaginable

[onyx osprey]

highly unlikely to the same extend as Anomaly

Xray allowed for it

i doint see how UE5 can allow for that

isnt the SDK like 700gb or something

[tawdry marsh]

Yeah lol

Only ppl with veery high end pcs can make mods

Choosing UE5 for Stalker 2 was such a mistake

Like

What were they thinking

[onyx osprey]

i jsut believe the game wouldve been a better product with a release date of 2026/27

and the first trailer would be this year

[tawdry marsh]

From what I understand, Unreal Engine 5 really limits the A-Life system because it eats up many pc resources, I'm I wrong?

I played it in a 4060 and after like 30 minutes playing, the thing gets an absolutely unbereable stuttering

[silver orchid]

yes

[tawdry marsh]

I miss when the 60 series were good

[silver orchid]

A-Life always was a big "eat resources", and nothing can change that, but as everything can be optimised

[tawdry marsh]

Hopefully. I saw that Shay is working on a complete rework of the A-life system

Dude is single handedly carrying the modding scene of Stalker 2 lol

[silver orchid]

As a mod or as official thingi?

because i read that are both thingis

[tawdry marsh]

Nope, as a mod. Let me send u the link

[tawdry marsh]

What the fuck, I can't find anything about it

The video showcasing it got deleted

Maybe the modder ran into a technical wall?

Here is a proof lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1ohtbv9/new_a_life_mod_for_s2_in_the_works_by_shaytech

[onyx osprey]

no

some of what youve seen were Leaks of GSC Alife

they arent mod related

[tawdry marsh]

LOL

HAHA

Didn't know

[onyx osprey]

they were big leaks yea

[tawdry marsh]

But Shay shared it as a mod?

[onyx osprey]

its native GSC A-Life being properly worked on

its a mess

[tawdry marsh]

Wtf

[tawdry marsh]

Like the whole leak or the A-life system they are working on

[onyx osprey]

just 2 days ago saw a vid from a different guy who had to delee his own video cuz it showed leaks of GSC Alife at work

he also thought it was Mod related

[tawdry marsh]

So we are going to see a proper A-life?

Nice

[onyx osprey]

i dont know maybe

they are gearing up for a massive update soon

maybe that will allow for Alife to work in semi competent way?

[tawdry marsh]

Hopefully I can finally run Stalker 2 in a 4060 after the UE5 5.5.4 update

[onyx osprey]

i mean

i run it on a 3080ti at 150fps

:'))))

Nvidia low latency helping a lot for that :'))))

[silver orchid]

game with dave did it another once🥱

[tawdry marsh]

There is no point of comparation between a 3080 and a 4060 :^(

[silver orchid]

Tho, the 1.7 seems that is not gonna to add UE 5.5

[tawdry marsh]

Oh yeah, I saw that

[silver orchid]

The UE update surely would be added +- at the same time than the release of the first DLC

[silver orchid]

In what sense?, is a great attempt or test.

[tawdry marsh]

I would love to explore the zone with a hypothetical Anomaly-like mod for Stalker 2, because I really don’t like the idea of playing as Skif lol. I wish in Stalker 2 you could play as someone more random, but that was never a thing even in the original trilogy

[onyx osprey]

eh thats a non issue tbf

[silver orchid]

Tho, in the trilogy u have freeplays thingis too

[onyx osprey]

Skif alone has no real political idiology in the zone

[tawdry marsh]

No no, just a nittpicky thing of mine

[onyx osprey]

bro just wanna know who the fuck fucked his hosue

[silver orchid]

in Clear Sky the A-Life and quests are the best for freeplay thingis

[tawdry marsh]

Skif is a chill guy

Y'll like the Stalker 2 story?

[onyx osprey]

yes

i personaly love it

the gameplay is whats lame to me

[tawdry marsh]

I watched this lol, what would you say about the story takes of this dude? https://youtu.be/RqWOapb1tlk?si=AbC6bCjb0cPBoFb6

I'm curious

[summer vapor]

the story isn't bad but i want new characters

[silver orchid]

Personally i dislike the story of HoC, has great concepts tho, just the most retcons to the trilogy are unnecesary and how are several characters is.🤧
I feel that HoC made much better the new thingis than writte thingis about the trilogy.

[tawdry marsh]

The ragdoll in Stalker 2 is so laaame

[summer vapor]

they're reusing old ones

[silver orchid]

Several characters are a nostalgia-bait too, don't seems that is 9 years after CoP

[onyx osprey]

watched that yesterday aswell

[summer vapor]

Yeah, they're look same barely aging

[silver orchid]

and even i saw that some characters are "resurrected"

[onyx osprey]

only Streloks hairline being even more cooked

[silver orchid]

perhaps with less nostalgia-bait the story would be much better with the retcons or no

[tawdry marsh]

I saw that lol. When I saw characters like Sidorovich appearing, I thought it was stupid, to the point that I theorized maybe time passes faster in the Zone, and that’s why the years might feel like much less there, cause no way

[onyx osprey]

i personaly dont understand why are there so many black people

[silver orchid]

EEEEEEEE

[onyx osprey]

like no joke or racist joke there

[silver orchid]

the bad thingis of this game are the w*mens

inmersion ruined

[onyx osprey]

i mean thats a non issue

but seeing a black dude

in the zone

let alone ukraine

is just lmao

like it would make sense if they were Mercs or anything Nato or West related

but they are supposed to be proper Ukranian researchers and what not

[silver orchid]

the zone is a dark place, don't there problems on include dark persons

[summer vapor]

Black, asian people are just skins for npc they're have typical slav names

[onyx osprey]

well asians make sense cuz soviet union and what not

Westerners sure through the Mercs which for some reason all of them speak ukranian

[tawdry marsh]

THE W*MEN WERE THE REAL PROBLEM IN STALKER 2 ALL ALONG

[silver orchid]

Yes

truly a disgrace, even GSC want add more w*mens

[silver orchid]

on the gamefiles there suits for w*mens of Duty and SIRCAA

[summer vapor]

Well, there are probably Asians in Ukraine, but they don't look 100% Asian

[tawdry marsh]

Well, jokes aside, I find weird the idea of women in Duty since that faction seems like the type of group that would be pretty sexist lol

[silver orchid]

pretty gey*

[tawdry marsh]

That too lol

[silver orchid]

this game should have geys

has sense have em

[tawdry marsh]

So Shay's maybe a GSC developer making mods for Stalker 2? lol

I don't get how the dude would get access to that and then share it as an upcoming mod of his

[onyx osprey]

we have the Femboy faction for that

[onyx osprey]

he actualy is just a mod dev

that is trusted by GSC and works with them

or alongside them

[silver orchid]

a faction of true mens

[kindred violet]

yeah that's literally just it

you can ofc also ask him if you're so curious, he is in the server

[silver orchid]

yes, just is a modmaker helping GSC, not a dev making mods (for now).

[tawdry marsh]

I wonder if the dude had to face a lawsuit lol

[kindred violet]

[silver orchid]

GSC is friendly with mods, just aren't friendly with "cut-content" restoration mods.

Not like the "muh, if u mod the engine and make it 10000 times better u must take a DMCA"

[summer vapor]

Was there anything interesting in Dave's deleted video? I thought the spawn rate was just increased

[silver orchid]

idk, i just know about the thingi of A-Life

shay created a tool that make possible "track" the NPCS on offline mode

[golden hazel]

Yeah and then they got nerfed because hard things should be easy

Mfs would do anything but lower the difficulty

[onyx osprey]

personaly i dont mind being oneshotter and what not

but i dont like bullet spunges or aimbots so

[golden hazel]

The mutants were only bullet sponges if you ran early gear

[onyx osprey]

for example i hate the fact a bloodsucker can tank like 15 shots of slugs

[golden hazel]

Exceptions of course being the chimera and pseudogiant

[onyx osprey]

when its supposed to be a fast/invisible enemy

[golden hazel]

Yes but it's also a mutant

[onyx osprey]

also , i dont mind a Chimera or a Pseudogiant being tankier than normal

but soaking dozens of bullets is ridiculous

a nice middle ground would be mutans being wounded by damage tho

instead of outright making them weaker

[golden hazel]

Lore wise they're just tanks

All of em

[onyx osprey]

did not know t hat tbf

i guess thats the positive of modded games like Anomaly then ig

but i do agree obviously , more later game guns make this a none issue most of the time

[mossy jasper]

Duty is what brings the hoes

"I'm so fucking sad but the Zone must die, every day that I kill an anarchist or a Mutant I'm keeping the world safe"
"That's so based as hell man, do you and your guyfriends play phone games"
"....I kept flappy bird installed, sometimes they borrow my PDA to play it"

[golden hazel]

Anomaly always felt way too power fantasy esque compared to even the originals tbh

[onyx osprey]

nah i agree

[golden hazel]

It's a different flavor of stalker but I absolutely get why people like it

[onyx osprey]

so

why when i throw a bolt at these

the sound fx comming from them sounds mad muffled

like its behind a wall

when its 2m infront of me

[golden hazel]

Small indie company

I didn't have that bug before, must be new

[onyx osprey]

been like that for me since release tbf

also

love enviromental story telling

[golden hazel]

[tawdry marsh]

Man I hope someone makes a proper dismemberment mod for Stalker 2 somewhere in the future cuz no way I shoot a dude in the face with a shotgun at like 2 meters and his face keeps intact after dying

[golden hazel]

You're gonna be waiting years for that

[kindred violet]

[golden hazel]

Ah nvm, decades

[slim moth]

https://tenor.com/view/uhm-meeting-3-hmm-meeting-hmm-pepe-pepemeeting-gif-3714368513695129278

[silver orchid]

Smth like the gore of Dying Light would be enough and cool.

[tawdry marsh]

Exactly

Well I don't remember exactly how the Dying Light gore was

But not gore for the sake of it

[silver orchid]

was ok, u really feel the damage of ur attacks

[tawdry marsh]

Just a reactive interaction to high caliber ammo against bodies lol

Painter of the zone is my favorite mod of Gamma

I can't play with it

peak

Something like that

[onyx osprey]

mane ill never get used to the femboy sign in rostok

please may the DLC make the factions wake up

[golden hazel]

Depends on when the dlc takes place tbh

They could make the dlc be a new ending

They could make it a sequel to one of the endings

Well some of the endings could have the factions waking up, 2 of them the factions would never wake up again

[onyx osprey]

they can do so many shit tbf

and in all honesty i dont know whats more important

fixing some of the retcons or adding more

[golden hazel]

Most likely adding more retcons

And I have a feeling it's gonna be more Clear Sky retcons

Only because of a single encounter in the game that mentions they're still around

and how one of the former og Sparkas wants to go to Limansk

And out of all the areas in the game, the ones with the least amount of info of what the hell happened is Yantar's bunker, Limansk, and the CNNPPPPPP

[silver orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/malcom-in-the-middle-gif-812079018943521515

[onyx osprey]

i saw that on a video

and maade me question

cuz theres no way clear sky is around

in what way could they possibly be except the technitian

[golden hazel]

Well yes but actually no, Kalancha is still around

[onyx osprey]

oh

[golden hazel]

And it makes sense because they're clearly up to something wherever they're hiding

My guess is they're building another scorcher in Limansk since that's where the initial scorcher research happened

[onyx osprey]

finally got my veles detector

[onyx osprey]

i kinda

dislike the map changes from red forest and onwards

kinda makes sense with how its supposed to be more desolate explaining why freedom and duty had a ceasefire up there

but still im really indeferent to it

[golden hazel]

Red Forest more like

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-energy-drink-drinking-non-stop-yaniv-stalker-stalker-2-gif-10074497999482227562

I do miss the CoP of Pripyat layout for the northern zone though ngl

[onyx osprey]

CoP of Pripyat

[golden hazel]

[onyx osprey]

i really need to replay the trilogy

[golden hazel]

Oooo you want to play CS Sky oooOOooOoo you want to go to the swaaaamp

[silver orchid]

Suslov and Beanpolev perhaps still are alive

Suslov it's related to smth of the 2th DLC tho

[golden hazel]

Kalancha's goddamn translated name

[silver orchid]

Beanpolev better🤧

[golden hazel]

I remember seeing Kalancha and was like "Why's this guy look like Beanpolev"

Anyway those blueberries are up to something nefarious

[torn hawk]

Hey guys, how's it hanging? Just installed the update and my weapons are held right up to my eyeball. And the items in the world no longer have text on them but instead the icon once you hover it (like the OG stalker trilogy used to do). Anyone know how to revert this back?

[onyx osprey]

ngl

the Faust fight with UE5 dogshit performance is just horrible

how the fuck did they accept that through QA

[plucky jacinth]

havent played stalker 2 since it launched, is it "good" yet?

[onyx osprey]

If youre willing to deal with frame gen then its alright

[plucky jacinth]

I've got no problem with frame gen

[lofty badger]

RIP possibility of hard difficulty being actually hard 😔

[trim iron]

Slapping more health or armor on an enemy is just a lazy way of "implementing difficulty". It makes fights just a boring resource draining chore.
Instead, bonusses to damage with specific weapon or ammo types, or weak spots the enemy has on their bodies, or fleshing out the AI to react and have a bit of situational awareness are all ways in which combat can be more immersive and rewarding. You need to learn the behavior and strengths and weaknesses of your enemy instead of just mag dumping on them.
That's the one aspect I loved in The Witcher 3. Reading the lore about the different enemy types, discovering their weaknesses. Applying the correct blade oils, and consuming the correct potions, etc. It was a ritual to prepare for a battle.
Granted it doesn't fit the Stalker scene, but similar aspects could have been implemented to fit the Stalker world.

[onyx osprey]

I mean , u cant have a game be hard when the performance of the game is so dogshit that outright makes it unplayable

[trim iron]

It's all part of the same problem.
Using IP to rush a product for maximum profits.

[onyx osprey]

I wanted to tear my balls out with the Duga battle

Especially faust fight

Shit was unbearable with the performance cuz you have the AI pretty much aim bot u

[mystic kelp]

Readiness = difficulty has always been a favorite concept of mine, I absolutely adore the souls games for all their obscure weakness and strength dynamics. I think more FPS's could work something like this in. Swap the classics of Electricity, Water and Fire, for Explosive, Penetration and Force or what have you. Maybe you hear some ex duty babbling about how cheaply the plates in their carriers are made and you pick up the slug shotgun you put away when fighting them originally. Perhaps you observe a party use grenades against a pack of psychic dogs that makes the illusions dissipate for a minute as the dog recovers.

Increasing difficulty can make fights tougher without touching the statistics of enemies by simply limiting your arsenal, more nailbiting and decision making. Less fallout 4 gameplay.

(I also think that electricity water and fire weakness could totally fit in, give me an anomaly powered gun )

[onyx osprey]

If the game cant be 120 fps stable at respectable graphical settings without the use of frame gen and dlss then nah

Like id gladly take a proper challenging experience but if the game itself refuses to be acceptable with its performance then its just impossible

I'll gladly play Witcher 3 on desthmarch

And gladly play trilogy stalker in veteran or even master

But im not touching stalker 2 with anything but stalker difficulty

[trim iron]

I don't know.
I did okay on veteran with 40 to 60 frames.

[golden hazel]

I fought that "all part of the plan" bastard with actual 5fps cause my 2060 couldnt deal with the memory leaks during that fight

I ran out of ammo eventually and just channeled my melee invictus run and London'd him to death

[lofty badger]

that would be good but is even more not going to happen than them making the hard difficulty hard

Also while it'd be very lazy it would at least encourage you to run away from more fights to save resources which is a little more gameplay variety than Shoot Every Guy You See

[lofty badger]

the anomaly powered gun is the Gauss rifle

[golden hazel]

Artifact, actually

[lofty badger]

[golden hazel]

And it isn't the only one

[lofty badger]

are there more in s2? don't remember getting any

[golden hazel]

In s2 there isn't

They're in SoC of Chernobyl

[mystic kelp]

Mage run in stalker...

[lofty badger]

12000 ball artifacts and a dream

[lofty badger]

only one gauss rifle in soc though? or are there named variants I didn't know about

[mystic kelp]

tape it to the end of a stick call that shit a staff

[golden hazel]

The Combat Chaser uses a gravi and I think there was an mp5 that also used an artifact but I might be remembering the gun wrong

[mystic kelp]

I cast dna reshuffle "pours my bag of 56 random artifacts over your body"

[lofty badger]

holy shit had no idea about the chaser having that, elite stalker ball knowledge

in soc there's a 9x18 viper iirc and that weird silenced one

unsure if the silenced one has an artifact in it

[lofty badger]

cruelty squad DNA gun but russian

[golden hazel]

Either way they dropped the ball in HoC tuah by not having more artifact guns

[lofty badger]

should've had ||Dalin making some fucked up one and then you get to steal it when SIRCAA eats shit||

[visual minnow]

Canonically what happened to Professor Kruglov?

https://tenor.com/view/very-based-kruglov-approves-stalker-gif-24761835

[icy basin]

Went home, had kids, deadlifts 600kg

[strange radish]

Hei guys question is worth getting stalker 2 ?

[tawny vessel]

Depends what you expect
Anomaly/gamma 2
NO
Trilogy, but shinier engine and 2024 features
Maybe

[strange radish]

I play gamma i love it

I like the graphics of 2

[icy basin]

Do not under any circumstance expect GAMMA from Stalker 2
Expect Call of Pripyat or Clear Sky

With better story

[golden hazel]

Expect clear sky you say? Clearly this is hinting that the canon ending is the Leon Kennedy one and we have to kill him in the dlc to free the zone for real this time

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker2-explaining-gif-25555840

[remote eagle]

[tawny vessel]

In that case avoid

The originals(and with that HoC) is nothing like gamma

[icy basin]

(thank god)

[golden hazel]

[strange radish]

I played originals also

[icy basin]

Then think back to how CoP played, and expect tougher mutants

[golden hazel]

And a comical amount of bloodsuckers

[kindred violet]

Obviously canonical that the destruction of the bloodsucker lair in CoP displaced the population and has caused them to spread far throughout the zone

This is all meta commentary about the human influence on nature and the animal kingdom

[remote eagle]

📠

[dire pine]

Guys is stalker 2 survival elements hardcore like gamma?

Or is it dumbed down a lot

[onyx osprey]

Go play the trilogy first

Before asking this

Otherwise you've wasted your money

[unreal ridge]

To be true Stalker 2 is more like fallout 4 or modern RPG in terms of hardcore
For true hardcore experience you need to use mods

[kindred violet]

Also not really built around being hardcore since certain action set pieces actively become truly awful with such mods

[onyx osprey]

Or simply dont treat S2 like gamma

[icy basin]

Wdym dumbed down
GAMMA would never even be considered

[onyx osprey]

He the prime example that got a hard on for gamma and wants s2 to be exactly like it

[unreal ridge]

Just more intense as I feel it
Main character too op by default like, with mods i use if you meet controller and you too far away from him at the open space it’s a pain pure pain

Anyway use what suits you best

[kindred violet]

And then you do the duga or the sircaa fight and just get insta dumpstered every time :3

[unreal ridge]

I feel like adding companions will fit hardcore gameplay

[unreal ridge]

Yea I know
A lot of death at this places

But I feel that’s true

Like to survive it you truly need to be a master

[onyx osprey]

Im surprised aswell that we didnt get companions

Like we dont need the idiotic Bethesda style companion

[unreal ridge]

True

[onyx osprey]

But a simple random dumbass alcoholic thats like fuck it we balling

Then end up dying in lab X18

[unreal ridge]

And telling you to left him and run

Cause one of you must survive

That’s what we need

Btw Dragon age system in terms of companions most close I can say out of my experience

That might fit

[onyx osprey]

Some games have standardised the use of companions as 💫💫unique character eith their own personal dillema💫💫 , no mofucker we just wanna make money from artefacts

[unreal ridge]

And a little background

Just for the plot

Like why they get to this point

[onyx osprey]

Well yea when sitting by the campfire they discuss some shit obviously

Like in the old games they'd speak of home or events in their trips

[unreal ridge]

You feel it

[onyx osprey]

I dont like killing zombified stalkers for god sake cuz they have more character growth than Ray Skywalker

[unreal ridge]

Aahhahahaha

True

But that’s ubi

So no wonder

I really like that controller from COP

From cave nearby burnt village

When you come close he tells

Мужик уходи

Man go away

And you feel like this controller just want to be left alone

[kindred violet]

My point was that the game obviously isn't designed around very difficult combat.
So adding difficult combat to the game whilst working great 95% of the time will be a right pain in the arse in the other 5%.
Unlike a game designed around hardcore combat that will have kept that in mind when designing encounters.
I'm not saying that hard fights shouldn't be a feature of a hardcore mod, but rather that the fight still needs to be fair

[unreal ridge]

Yea I understand
What I mean as for me this pain have sense and rewarding
Otherwise I can easily finish the game with no issue

And I loose attraction to it

[lean current]

hey guys, do you know what that locked door inside the building in rostok on the right is? the one with the crosswalk?

i climbed up there and i cant remember seeing it in my first playthrough

[lean current]

all good i just found out, its part of the arg thingy

[onyx osprey]

I mean after 40 hours I do understand what people told me

This is a proper stalker trilogy in 2025 experience

No fancy bullshit like the mods have created

But I still personally dont vibe with the gameplay only because of the performance of the game

I would gladly say this game is a 9/10 with the difficulty on max and so on , only if the performance allowed me to react like a normal human being

And not with 140ms delay

[kindred violet]

Yeah

Having to play with framegen is awful

So I just suffer when it drops below 60 without it

I'd rather have a less smooth experience but accurate mouse than smoot experience and floaty mouse

[lean current]

totally agree. also this game is very cpu heavy

[unreal ridge]

I like it with mods
Performance wise I got good response using DLAA and FSR 3.1 on top, paired with custom Engine. Ini config
RTX 3050 / Amd Ryzen 5500

I tried different tweaks before

And lossless scaling didn’t help that much in the end

Best I got is this and I have most of the settings high or epic

Except textures, shadows, grass and hair

Textures and shadows at medium

Flora and hair at minimum

I have some FPS drops at dense areas as Rostok but who doesn’t?

[silver orchid]

True Stalker 2 is like Fallout 4?, fuck, another Fake Stalker.
Why wolfstalker did this...

[kindred violet]

[unreal ridge]

Cannot understand if this a joke

[kindred violet]

that's the fun part of this server, you seriously don't know if it's sarcasm or not

[slim moth]

mastermode confirmed

[golden hazel]

[dusty nymph]

Ai in my playthrough has been comically stupid though

I shoot a guy in the back of the head next to his buddy, he screams out and the guy doesn't hear

Also I went to this compound and had a full firefight with like 10 guys and it seemed completely dead. Later when I was leaving they had all respawned and were fighting 3 loners and they had this huge alarm blaring.

Guess I wasn't noteworthy enough to raise the alarm...

[nova lake]

small fry

[onyx osprey]

I just came out of a bossfight with next to no ammo and meds

Walking towards malachite

Literaly 2 groups of monolithians totaling 13 people spawned 5 meters infront of me

Just , sigh GSC

[tacit glacier]

"Can only be selected at start of the game"
Welp

[trim iron]

"most skilled"

At dodging aim bots?

"we wanna avoid spoilers, mostly. I can say that resources are low. Items are not as durable, and traders are not as economically friendly." 🥱

It's a step in the right direction, at least.

[jade harbor]

What do people here think of spark? I haven't seen much stalker 2 discussions online so im curious about peoples opinions

[late kernel]

I could care less until Stalker 2 gets it "Cyberpunk" level redemption arc

[dusty nymph]

I don't know if the backlash was big enough for them to justify that

[golden hazel]

Can't wait for them to make it easier because it was "too hard"

[mossy jasper]

Peak fiction

[onyx osprey]

never will

:'))

[late kernel]

Not with that attitude

[onyx osprey]

i mean

i kinda hope it doesnt

just becuase of how it released

[slim moth]

damn. what a miserable mindset

[onyx osprey]

yea apologies for wanting a product to be at an acceptable point by release

silly me

[slim moth]

That's a perfectly reasonable thing to want. but wanting it to fail when there is a roadmap working on the game and they are working with modders at the same time is already a good path for it to be better than what happened with cyberpunk

most games come out fucked up so idk what's so different with S2

once you take the "entitled" goggles off. you start being reasonable

[onyx osprey]

this Sparker is shooting at a wall

at an enemy

thats 30 meters to my left

sorry bro but there is no entitlement

this is me expecting the bare minimum

[small spade]

Tbh anybody wanting to get Stalker 2 should probably wait a few years for it to be at least half fixed up

[onyx osprey]

i love GSC for what theyve done but there is a point where you stop acting like a hardcore accept all fanboy

[slim moth]

that is the probably one of the most bugged missions in the game

[onyx osprey]

ive seen the exacyt same shit happen from the start of the game my guy

[slim moth]

It needs a lot of work.

[onyx osprey]

nothing to do with missions

[slim moth]

Then you need to download a A-life mod

i do not speak for the vanilla experience

[onyx osprey]

:)))

you do realise there is no response to this right

[small spade]

Modern games shouldn't need to rely on fan sourced content to fix the basic promises of the game

[onyx osprey]

mods are there to add to the experience

not fix it

[small spade]

Exactly, that's why i refuse to play any Bathesda titles anymore

[slim moth]

I mean it's way better than what it was and arguably better than most other fps games of the same genre

The story has bugged AI triggers. I'm sure they're aware and will try to fix it.

but playing it as a free-roam with New Game Start is where the AI really shines.

[onyx osprey]

i started my save a few days ago

i came back from Duga battle

almost no ammo no meds

and have 13 Monolithians spawn 5 meters infront of me

can we stop die hard defending a company that sold a mess?

[small spade]

They released the Soviet experience edition at the start where you were too poor to get anything, everything took ages to get, and your stuff was broken by the time you got it

Or like the 7.62x39 which was never even in the merchants' stores despite feeding the lmg and the Dnipro caliber change

[onyx osprey]

Example B , this Loner has been shot like 7 times now by them Wards

refuses to react

[slim moth]

idk. my game doesn't do that

[small spade]

Don't forget that everything sees you through any trees or bushes

[onyx osprey]

ofcourse it doesnt when you possibly use a mod

[slim moth]

when there is a solution like a mod that may fix your experience it could be more fun using it, rather than to endure stuff that hasn't been fixed yet officially.

[silver orchid]

Shit.

[onyx osprey]

while i want to agree with u

these are the most basic of problems that should be fixed bare minimum weeks into the release

then improve upon them

[slim moth]

Microsoft forced a release window and we got what we got. Most modern studio do the same thing.
Alot of games get patched for months after release the difference is GSC actually listens to feedback, has a roadmap, and works directly with modders.

[onyx osprey]

in other words , developers over promised , microsoft did its due diligence and forced them to get their shit together

they still failed and released a messy product

[slim moth]

you're gonna play it any way so why talk shit lol

[onyx osprey]

simply cuz i can tbf lmao

still annoys me i waited so long for this

not making me dislike the game but yaknow

[slim moth]

at launch, i shared the same sentiment. but after playing each patch and seeing the improvement makes it hard not advocate for. especially cause the modders are doing some pretty amazing shit.

the witcher 3 didn't come out with their sdk till like a year ago right?

[onyx osprey]

mate , ill gladly suck the life off of every mod developer that kept this franchise alive for over a decade

but im not going to expect them to hold this pile of shit to work

they are there to give me more options for the game , not help me be able to even play it

Witcher 3 also wasnt a great examply because iirc it also had serious problems on release ?

[slim moth]

no they released the sdk like almost 10 years after the game released or some shit.

[onyx osprey]

and why is that important exactly lmao

Witcher isnt really a game where modding is necesery

doesnt add much

[slim moth]

cyberpunk still hasn't released it's official version of mod support

just other open world games that don't really prioritize modding.

either way. play it or don't. i just wanted to point out the logical fallacy of the "i hope it fails" statement when it's far from finished.

[onyx osprey]

modding should never be prioritised

and always be an afterthought

the base game alone should be solid and playable

at best make it easy to mod the game as early as possible , never prioritise it

[silver orchid]

yes but modding on HoC can fix several thingis while GSC don't that these fixes by themselves soooo

[onyx osprey]

in that case , they should HIRE mod devs to work for them

not just do it for the love of the game

[silver orchid]

They already did that

a GSC dev said that on a interview like in 2023 or 2024

https://youtu.be/_1msvzkT1d8?t=260

idk which modders

and that interview has the same evil word two times.

[onyx osprey]

im aware of that my guy ive seen almost all the interviews from back then

doesnt change the fact modders are trying to fix this now

when the devs shouldve sold this at an acceptable state

nothing saves a dogshit company from selling a broken product , its not the fault at microsoft , its the fault at GSC for over promising , not meeting their goals and the publisher finally pushing their foot down

[tawdry marsh]

Hey guys

Do you think GSC would ever release remakes of the original trilogy, since Stalker 2 retcons some core things

[onyx osprey]

eh , they "remastered" them

so i dont think so

no real reason to aswell tbf cuz it could cause more issues

[silver orchid]

No

And possibly would be a franchise-killer

x3

[shadow swan]

Yo chat any idea what changes in master difficulty significantly other than you take more damage prob and I guess resources are more rare?

[stuck seal]

looks at bethesda

[onyx osprey]

EXACTLY

[golden hazel]

Oooo you want to buy skyrim

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-gun-gif-11126232804042181486

[onyx osprey]

good ol skyrim

best game Bethesda ever managed to make

yet the most basic

[shadow swan]

I am not sure what they mean by spoilers
if they say that then surely there is something special about the master difficulty other than just everything being scaled

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1100472159329062932/1433277407535562832/convert.gif

[trim iron]

My take on their "mysterious" statements so far is to just not expect too much.
Their updates are steady, but slow. Sometimes introduce something new and nice, but nothing "big"

I'd be more curious as to what potential it could provide to modders.

[kindred violet]

Secret ending where skif, skifs all over the place

[onyx osprey]

Why no ending where we kiss strelok tho

Its 2025 afterall

[golden hazel]

Cause the zone is his girlfriend

[kindred violet]

Cucked by the zone

[onyx osprey]

I thought she was mine

Also

I to this day hate that rooftop scene on the trailer that was a bait and switch

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil4-leon-egg-re4-leon-kennedy-gif-19925035

[onyx osprey]

Hey thats the guy from the Stalker 2 trailer !

Unironicaly

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker2-explaining-gif-25555840

[kindred violet]

When the trailer doesn't spoil the game

[golden hazel]

I like the part where Chris Redfield suplexes the zone just so that Leon will continue the Redfield bloodline

[molten osprey]

I LOVE THE PART WHERE I CSNT ENJOY THE GAME BECAUSE THE FUCKING NUMPAD IS HARDCODED

I SWEAR TO GOD IF I WOULD DOWNLOAD UE5 RIGHT NOW I COULD FIX THAT IN 2 MINUTES

1:30 MINUTES WOULD BE BOOTING IT ON MY PATATOE

MAYBE I SHOULD APPLY AT GSC AS BUG FIXER

[icy basin]

Quiet

The Americans are eepy

[molten osprey]

I WILL GET YOUR ASS DRY

YOU SURE ARE A DIRTY PYRO MAIN

[icy basin]

Mf I'm a Scout/Soldier

Get meatshot, nerd

[molten osprey]

Oh hi im scout Player too

I like the scattergun and sour milk

[icy basin]

[molten osprey]

Maybe i will try pretty boy pistol

[icy basin]

Can't wait to awkwardly strafe aim battle with you and miss all 6 shots

[molten osprey]

I have issues with my nerves in my arms at the moment and 1 hour of scout gameplay on harvest induces extreme pain

I still do it tho

[icy basin]

[molten osprey]

Cause fun

[icy basin]

Must be a reaction to playing Harvest

[molten osprey]

Best map

I only play koth because im stoopid

[icy basin]

Fair nuff

[summer vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedrunner-epic-gamer-sweatyspeedrunner-gif-22461398

GSC right now

[kindred violet]

Oh look my fav character in this chat is back

[molten osprey]

the best thing is i cant find anything about it online

like im the only one cucked to playing left handed

i wont download the 150 gigs just to test it out and get angry again

maybe this works

[kindred violet]

Godspeed

One day, you will be able to play the game haha

Maybe when modders gain access to proper scripting and under the hood code :P

[tacit glacier]

This has got to be the best interaction I seen this whole day.

[kindred violet]

[finite needle]

Man I can't wait for everyone to start speculating about about what incredible innovation will Master difficulty bring and then it's just less items, less stashes and more expensive stuff

[molten osprey]

bastards

how about

fixing

4

FUCKING KEYBINDS

4

IS IT THAT HARD

[kindred violet]

I love how you're already known of

[molten osprey]

IF I WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO GODDAMN FILES ON XBOX I WOULD FIX IT MYSELF, WRITE AN INSULTING EMAIL TO GSC THAT I CAN DO IT WITHOUT ANY EXPERIENCE AND I WOULD PROBABLY FIX THAT UGLY LUMEN ON THE SIDE BECAUSE IM SUCH A CHAD

[kindred violet]

Incredible

[molten osprey]

MEH BECOME AMBIDEXTROUS DUDE MAYBE FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME ITS BEEN A YEAR

AND I FINISHED IT THE FIRST TIME RIGHT HANDED

I EVEN BOWED TO THEIR MISERABLE WISHES

FUCKING DIPSHITS

it makes me really angry in case thats not clear

[kindred violet]

No it's very much clear

[nova lake]

ho no, you should make GSC fire that guy

[jade harbor]

Why is it called

Stalker

2 if 4

[silver orchid]

5*

apart of a 2 being more commercial than heart of chernobyl

a good point for that is by being a different saga or smth

"stalker 1", "stalker 2", "stalker 3"

[silver orchid]

Is a shame that the game it's set on 2021

in a place fill of mens everywhere

and still this don't has relations of mens between mens

but has w*mens

imagine, sidorobitch x barman, strelok x guide, faust x strider (already is a toxic relation), voronin x petrenko

and beard x sultan

[jade harbor]

I did not know stalker yaoi existed

Not that I'm againts it

Simply unaware

[visual minnow]

Are there any mods that revamp weapons?
(Excluding OXA, cuz in my experience it's a buggy mess)

[silver orchid]

I wish that there a mod with that

i saw everything but no an plus-inmersion like that

[onyx osprey]

Honestly , the most important mods in the future of S2 for me would he anything gun related

Pitifully low amount of weapons

And no fucking F2000 for monolith

[slim moth]

[icy basin]

Schizo chilled out

[icy basin]

[tacit glacier]

I look at media from time to time
ngl, this looks good. As if it was on the steam store page itself

But then you have this pic and you can see the shading going haywire on the wall above the artifacts

In some places even below them

[last blade]

hi, what are you mod list for a gamma similar experience ? hi just heard about OXA, lootable and craftable zone and the free play mod, what do you play with ?

[jade harbor]

Theres such a lack of aks

If I can't have almost every type of ak I am not happy

Clearly we need atleast 6 more aks

Or 7

Yeah 6 or 7 more aks

Stalker 2 has been completly unplayable for me since the update with the nvgs I sont mean simple issues I'm talking as in I actually cant play the game at all because it will simply crash

[onyx osprey]

ngl nvgs are useless

thjey are just colour filters and thats it

[jade harbor]

Lol

Game broke and I cant finish it over green filter

[nova lake]

NVGs are more than color filters but they arent useful either since nights arent dark enough

[unreal ridge]

Use darker nights mod

And Ace’s Flashlight

[nova lake]

I dont use mods, I tell the developers to make a better game

[tepid spade]

Unfortunately thats the broken lumen that we are dealing with. Let's hope that GSC with UE 5.5.4 will bring us Ray Tracing instead and that will solve these issues with inaccurate light source shading.
Good eye ngl 🏆

[tepid spade]

PRZ has better NVG implementation than GSC and thats beyond comical ngl 😅

[mystic kelp]

How brutal is the survivalist mode, I'm trying to do a run just doing anomalies and living as a pacifist but I don't wanna slave away melting my brain to get a T4 artifact worth a little less than a granola bar

[silver orchid]

I don't think that this is about HoC

[trim iron]

There's no survivalist mode or T4 artifacts in Stalker 2

[queen magnet]

guys, I'm desperate, I keep having the "Unhandled Exception: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION reading address 0x0000000000000468" error, I have no mods installed, I've updated my graphic driver (twice)

I tried to search for the solution, but no luck

[wanton arch]

Just like real life

🥀

Thats why we have thermal sight or IR flashlight attached to your gun

The big issue with stalker 2 is just the flash light in general

It's dumb profoundly weak yet it increases so much detection range

Like what the fuck with weak ass flashlight that let enemy spot me like mile away

💔

[jade harbor]

The lighting is so damm weird in this game

Especially the inside of buildings is absurdly dark even with multiple lamps and fires

[nova juniper]

How is stalker 2 running on your guys' computers? Did they optimize since launch?

[jade harbor]

Its not even running
It refuses to

Its running away even

[nova juniper]

sad, guess s2 will have to keep marinating in the over for me

🙁

[wanton arch]

I blame UE5 base lightning

Volumetric lightning

Or some shit like that

[wanton arch]

Consider i need raw performance of 9060xt and ryzen7 7700

Just to run raw medium setting with high texture and rendering range at 150 fps

[nova juniper]

It didn't have to become anomaly, but it could at least be playable

I'm running a 3060 laptop, no way in hell I'll get it stable

[wanton arch]

If its 8gb gg

[nova juniper]

16

[wanton arch]

You mean 12gb vram

[nova juniper]

or the gpu card?

yea

[wanton arch]

It should work

[nova juniper]

I think that's my bottleneck

[wanton arch]

Not really ?

[jade harbor]

Ue5 is evil

Satan worked with epic games to make it

[nova juniper]

Now now, I don't think satan would stoop that low

[jade harbor]

[wanton arch]

I mean UE engine are the stable in the industry

But darn it takes too long for it to be refined

[jade harbor]

Honestly alot of ray tracing stuff is really emberassing

It uses so much resources to just end up looking bad

[wanton arch]

Ray tracing is just dynamic lightning and reflection

[jade harbor]

And its used badly alot of the time

[wanton arch]

It's intensive because it automatically tracks object nonstop

Btw what is your laptop cpu anyways @nova juniper

[jade harbor]

Also I'm trying to reinstall stalker 2 to see if it will be playable on a fresh install

[wanton arch]

Stalker 2 is intensive with cpu even

[nova juniper]

Ryzen 7 5800H

[wanton arch]

Try to install some mode along

Yeah 3060 is your bottle neck

[nova juniper]

yea chatgpt told me as well

I'm guessing I'm gonna run around with like 50 fps

[wanton arch]

I mean you could configure into medium or below medium

[nova juniper]

for sure, I don't mind low fidelity

[jade harbor]

What kind of company be making laptops with bottlenecks 💔 💔 💔

[nova juniper]

but I do crave the frames

[nova juniper]

any company making a pc

[wanton arch]

Nah its old laptop

The bottleneck will happen

Like my build does have bottleneck

[nova juniper]

every system bottlenecks somewhere

[wanton arch]

But it's minimal

[nova juniper]

like a link in a chain

[wanton arch]

(Its not minimal because i have 5200mhz ram)

Massive bottleneck

[nova juniper]

It's never minimal hahaha

I never managed to get a really balanced build

[wanton arch]

Impossible

[nova juniper]

wallet real bottleneck

[wanton arch]

I mean i wish i have 300$ more just to buy 32gb of ram

[nova juniper]

My last pc needed a complete redux, mb and all. Found this shitty laptop 50% off so I snatched it

[wanton arch]

On god the price jump for ram is insane

was what the price you paid for

[nova juniper]

450$

[wanton arch]

Not bad actually?

[nova juniper]

it was newer as well

pretty good second hand deal

[wanton arch]

You kinda snap a decent price laptop at 450$ just by the gpu/cpu

[nova juniper]

could probably have flipped it, but it solved my aging pc-problem that I had at the time

[wanton arch]

Idk about other things tho

[nova juniper]

one thing I hate about laptops though

shit aint modular

and I'm in bad need of a ssd

cant run more over sata

never buy one 😢

[wanton arch]

Sata ssd is not that bad

[nova juniper]

yea no, but I'm forced into usb

[wanton arch]

Yeah i mean nvme can be x3/x5 the speed anyways

Wait you cannot upgrade the storage ?

[nova juniper]

nope

[wanton arch]

I mean replacing the unit

[nova juniper]

Acutally maybe? I dont remember

I looked it up over a year ago

I gotta check

[wanton arch]

Do you know the laptop module name

[nova juniper]

Erazer p25 something

I think

[wanton arch]

Medion Erazer Deputy P25 ?

[nova juniper]

oshit

I think there actually is a slot somewhere

[wanton arch]

You def can replace sata ssd unit to 2gb

Lemme check if it has nvme slot

[nova juniper]

I think I only checked sales version of the laptop

but mb looks like it has options

[wanton arch]

Oh yike its nvme slot

But eh 3060 6gb and 5600x

Unless its a dif module

[nova juniper]

dif module

at least dxdiag tells me so 😂

[wanton arch]

Yeah E25 not P25

Then it's a decent laptop that you could upgrade ram and nvme slot

[nova juniper]

yea

[wanton arch]

The price for nvme is finicky

But sodimm ram should be fine

[nova juniper]

might stick in a better ssd

don't wanna challenge the sunk cost fallacy

gonna have to start saving up for a new pc

[wanton arch]

Best to get 2tb

Its a single slot so

[nova juniper]

will do

thanks for the help

[tepid spade]

LUMEN is beyond comical 🚮

[tepid spade]

Its called LUMEN

[wanton arch]

I hate LUMEN

The worst lightning system ever...

🥀

They are treating the game scenically

[tepid spade]

Agree, especially in S2 its just terrible to say the least.

Lets hope for RT in UE 5.5.4

That would be great to have

[wanton arch]

Im not hoping for ray tracing anyways

[tepid spade]

Its never too late to get better GPU 😅

[wanton arch]

Like i want a better optimized lightning for visual clarity

I mean i have 9060xt 16gb

It's not an issue but i barely notice ray tracing

[tepid spade]

You are gold then

Good i mean 😅

[wanton arch]

It's just old fixed lightning is better for optimization and again visual clarity

[tepid spade]

Well debatable. These days we have much better technology that can handle accurate bounce lighting in comparison with old ones

Its just not for old gen GPUs tho

[wanton arch]

Nah you still need to do more work

even the tech nowaday can handle it does not mean it can run freely

It still has to waste % usage for it

[tepid spade]

But what are you expecting that RR or PT will not be demanding ? It doesn't work that way unfortunately and these things are very demanding.
Path Traced bounce lighting is only implemented in few games natively and many devs not even considering to implement it as its very demanding, after some years we might have it tho when it will be tailored. For now Ray Tracing is mlre than enough if implemented correctly.
But we all knlw how cooked is whole gaming industry with optimizing their sh*t before handing over to consumers 😅

[kindred violet]

So true

[wanton arch]

Yup

I mean sure if it's optimized and it only uses 10% of my gpu rn sure

[kindred violet]

If you own cyberpunk try to see the performance difference between raytracing and path tracing, it's nuts

[wanton arch]

But 20~28%

🥀

My gpu need headroom

I aint running like 90%-100%

[kindred violet]

You know, gpu usage percentage is not necessarily wasted "power"

How much vram do you have btw?

[wanton arch]

I mean true but i usually need headroom for smoother process

I play shooter games in general

16gb

[kindred violet]

it just be how it br ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wanton arch]

I swear rx7600 can play s2 at low setting

But because of the vram on god it drop from 70 fps to 10

💔

[tepid spade]

CP is NVIDIA showcase title and Path Traced bounce lighting is great if You have NVIDIA and also using Ultra+ PTNext V3.
I have recently released my 600+ mod collection in CLIkS server with guidlines how to set things up for most GPU users, more than welcome to have a peek if interested.

Its very large and complex but the end result you will have with completely reworked basically every game mechanics.

I wish we could do something with Stalker2 in near future like with CDPR

[summer vapor]

https://youtu.be/oS0TljEXRJM?si=9_oHVIIAxf0PeMXm They made mutants too hard to kill

[kindred violet]

My statement was more that if I turn that on my pc shits itself

[tepid spade]

PT tanks 😂

[jade harbor]

Unreal engine -5

Setting gaming back to before the stone age
Beautiful 🥺

[trim totem]

idk i havent really had a issue with lighting? maybe its my pc

but the only time its really terrible is when i was at the start of the game

i like the game but its issues are glaring

like the fucking buggy shadows

i will say it i love stalker 2 im glad it introduced me to the franchise n the overall vibe n atmosphere is amazing n gsc has made it wayyyy better than it was at launch

but there are so many issues that need to be fix n i think its bc of the ue5 version they are on

but yes

luman sucks

it sucks in fortnite too

[slim moth]

yeah... hopefully UE 5.5.4 fixes a lot of the weird artifacting with lighting/shadows. Like S2 can be one of the best looking games but also one of the ugliest at the same time cause of their implementation of lumen.

[trim totem]

yes

but im not gonna dog on this game if it was like the way it was at launch? oh hell yeah im dogging on it

but ive seen alot of improvements visually compared to what i had at launch

launch visuals sucked fucking ass

constant ghosting constant fps stuttering popin omg was bad n just the reflections

[tepid spade]

perhaps You don't know where to look at 😄

Go into Zallisya bar for example - do You really see any light objects that should transfer light where it is in that place, see behind the bar entrance door, garbage base - lumen just flying around like crazy inside - just to name a few spots.

[slim moth]

the stuttering and frame rate were my biggest issues at launch. like, yeah those visual glitches were annoying but god DAMN the stutters were BAD

[trim totem]

oh yeah garbage

[tepid spade]

Stuttering is not an issue anymore - that has been gone

[trim totem]

i dont really spend alot of time in garbage i kinda dislike it

that giant trash pit being just a radiation death zone turns me off from it

let me explore there 👀

what are u hiding up there 👀

[slim moth]

i got a 5070ti and a 9900x on the way. i will erase any stutter by force

[trim totem]

5070ti being a better purchase than the 5080 is still insane to me

[slim moth]

the 5080 being $1200+ is what makes it an easy decision

[tepid spade]

You don't need to spend a lot of time anywhere as LUMEN is everywhere.

Just pay attention to if there are any light sources that should produce that light you see, in most cases it will be incorrect and wrong shading.

ROSTOK is prime example of how fckd is LUMEN so as in Zallisya bar

[slim moth]

even that room isn't as bad as it used to be. but that could be DWO Alternate Exposure that helps

[tepid spade]

You will still need few adjustments

[tepid spade]

I don't use DWO, PRZ instead

[slim moth]

i tried PRZ and it killed my performance

which is a shame cause i like l00pings stuff. especially in Fallout 4

[tepid spade]

Well what do You expect - enabling real UE variables that enhances visuals without performance loss ? 😄

can You elaborate what is killed performance in your opinion?

I work along with Ping and his stuff at the moment oon S2 - dialing in the new look of the ZONE.

From my experience with users that are using PRZ - I can surely tell that in most cases it's user incapability to dial things in with PRZ to make it good.
Its advanced stuff and You have to put in some effort to adjust things to begin with. Its not like Ultra+ which also has issues

[slim moth]

i mean, technically U+ and PRZ do the same thing, just tweaks certain things differently.

[tepid spade]

PRZ is more superior and witth way more added value imho

[slim moth]

I just use U+ cause I know how to use it. pretty much like you said, most people don't know how to tweak it.

[slim moth]

how

[tepid spade]

They want it on silver plate like plug n play 😄

This is what I dialed in last night

There is lot more coming soon

[jade harbor]

You can get a card basically as good as it for 700 or less 😭 🥀

[slim moth]

I might give it a try with the new rig. but with the rig i got now, U+ seems to give me better performance/visuals.

[jade harbor]

Mine is 700€ but I think it goes as low as 600

[tepid spade]

We are working on S2 showcase video with CLIKRAD atm and we will be showcasing PRZ in depth as well and I believe PING will add some extra things for You guys soon in upcoming PRZ update so ppl can get the results without tearing hair out of heads and breaking their systems.

Need a bit more time to dial in few things, test them to get good results so You could have great experience and pleasant feel in the ZONE with cinematic visuals.

[trim totem]

thing is i like lumen i think it can be used well but the only games ive seen use it well was fortnite 💀 n then they fucked it up

lumen is good but its not useful like ray tracing

[tepid spade]

Yeah they always say that about their stuff but when You have PRZ on there are huge difference between U+ & PRZ.
There is bunch of stuff that Ultra doesn't even offer to begin with.

Don't believe everything you read 😄
Life will be much easier.

[slim moth]

I've used it.

[tepid spade]

Its also interesting that LAZZ is stating that its his CLONE but he cant reproduce that cinematic look.

Then why is that?
Is that really cloned U+ ? 😄

[slim moth]

Cause he doesn't throw a whole bunch of reshade on

he's showing off the vanilla visual enhancements.

Reshade and "cinematic" shit is subjective

l00ping shows off with his reshades and filters which is nice. that's his thing. U+ main focus is improving vanilla graphics while improving performance and if you want to use the above vanilla quality, you tweak it in their UMM or ini.

like i said, i planned on trying out PRZ when i get a better rig. Ik it does the same thing as U+ so that makes it better than most snakeoilengine.ini's.

[tepid spade]

Well if You understand what variables are enabled and which ones work for intensities and other bits then why not to make it cinematic if UE gives us these tools.

I am very well aware of U+ and I use it in many games, especially in CP2077 for RT+PT.
Well this is different playing field, we work to achieve best possible visuals at a cost of performance.

Yeah man do not use any AI generated .ini files - there are bunch of them nowadays, just keep away from them

[slim moth]

cause right now i got a 4070s and a 5600x. My 4070s is fine, but cpu is def holding me back which is why i got 9900x sitting next to me lol. my 5070ti doesn't get here till fucking december

[tepid spade]

Yeah your CPU is holding You back at this point.

[slim moth]

I also like to record/clip games and edit vids so it'll be nice to see how the 9900x can handle that

Im just curious how the x3/x4 frame gen will work in S2

[tepid spade]

@slim moth Ultra+ doesn't have this nor enables it 🛠️

[slim moth]

Those are nice pics.

[tepid spade]

You will be just fine.

I can't care less about 4x fake frames.

You should optimize your system and game to have best possibble 1% lows instead beffore going 4x fake world 😄

@slim moth few mandatory tips that could help

[slim moth]

if the input latency is minimal, then i'll use the fake frames. if not, then obviously tweaking and overclocking.

ive done all these things

[tepid spade]

you will use FG anyway I am nott sure abbout 4x tho

[slim moth]

most of these i've learned from the U+ server lmao

[tepid spade]

if You have base 60FPS and add 2x FG you have 120FPS which would be around 7-10ms Frame Time latency - thats smooth.

everything that is <10-15ms is smooth
if Frame Time latency goes above 15ms you will start to notice sluggish feel & sort of lag.

[tepid spade]

Those are just basics, nothing related to Ultra in any shape or form.

More than three decades working with PCs and tweaking stuff, modding and in general that gains enough knowledge of how these things work and how sensitive they are to just few incorrect adjustments which could lead to user failure.

Ultra is a bit overrated and ngl they banned me from Cyberpunk room not while ago and U+ in general.
Just because I have my own opinions and ability to challenged one person there who is pushing to play the game by his rules and just because he is a mod curator of 3077 & moderator doesn't mean that he is above everyone else in his 30ies with very shallow NVIDIA fanboy attitude.
He even didn't allow to express words like XeSS at one point and I just told him that if You will not write that in your U+ server rules then You are not going to tell anyone here which Upscaling method we are allowed to mention/use or not to use.

[slim moth]

ooooooooooohhhhhhhh i get it now

explains alot. alright carry on.

[tepid spade]

Sammi and Laz are the real Gs there who make the magic happen.

I have no idea what it explains to you but my goal always is to help achieve best possible visual fidelity and if you are getting pushed by some fanboy to use anything bellow quality then its a clear indication that someone lacks understanding of what quality along with visual fidelity means & Cyberpunk is not the whole world in gaming industry.

[tulip hare]

Hello. Does anyone know a fix for the Defend Zalissya side mission?
As soon as I arrive in the general area, everyone dies to the attackers. Two Wards pernamently keep respawning and gaffer sits inside the building, while I can't talk to him.

[wanton arch]

does anyone play the repack version from fitgirl repack and if yes did the updating work for you guys

[ashen meteor]

stalker 2 ssucks

[tepid spade]

https://tenor.com/view/you-went-full-gif-12640090421596838899

[silver orchid]

the best ending is skifa-chan married with ritcher-sama

[elder bay]

ahh

[quasi ore]

From what I've heard all of the endings aren't happy which is kinda like New Vegas

someone gets screwed over

I kinda like that

but it makes it hard to side with someoone

[woven halo]

So, how's the game nowadays. Been a few months since I've checked in

[onyx osprey]

Define sucks

[onyx osprey]

Richter is such a weird character the further u progress

[kindred violet]

Bro, don't try to discuss people who are just ragebaiting haha

[golden hazel]

There's only one side to side with and it's the one that gives you sprite suits and missions to steal copper wire and catalytic converters from the wardens

[kindred violet]

Don't forget the war crimes

[golden hazel]

Yes, those are committed while stealing said copper wire and catalytic converters

It's a bonus of the line of work

https://tenor.com/view/stalker2-scar-laugh-gif-12786287499780353633

[trim iron]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-depp-mad-hatter-alice-in-wonderland-alice-in-wonderland2010-gif-11764725204736940201

[pseudo falcon]

@kindred violet question
are you using oxa standard or prototype?

am i the only one having second thoughts on oxa prototype

[kindred violet]

Prototype, why do you ask?

Also haven't played in a while atm

[pseudo falcon]

well i do like that you can customize the guns but i dont like the other changes like trader changes
i guess my only option is standard

altho on standard i cant change parts

[kindred violet]

You could adjust these things yourself if you have the time.
Most of the things that annoy you are purely config edits I would assume

[pseudo falcon]

im too lazy for that lol
i guess i can only use standard

[molten osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/virus-flu-sick-patrick-spongebob-squarepants-gif-16631627

numpad

[jade harbor]

Reinstalling stalker 2 from the launcher didn't fix the game now I just obliterated the game from my file manager