╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[drowsy umbra]

I think Richter is an illusion and not real

Richter is an illusion created by the Alpha Artefact to lead Skeefa to the zone

[west moth]

[covert eagle]

let him cook

i love the smell of disemboweled rookie in the morning

[proud ruin]

[finite needle]

It's just that no one likes cops, whatever their reason might be the ward is literally invaders that have come to explicitly overrun and destroy the whole zone's society (and the zone itself), so I wonder why a stalker who likes it there would'n't like the ward.

[nocturne smelt]

Ward did Kind of show up collect people who were perceived as problems and shoot them up against a wall basically.

[warped monolith]

it's still their own damn fault for intentionally being overambitious in their circumstances

[drowsy umbra]

still I think Stalker 2 is an overall good game

its just overhyped and misses some features of the og games

[plucky onyx]

It at least looks good

If there was more to do outside of the story it'd be a lot better, that and the ai. The ai is honestly pretty bad/mediocre at least for human npcs. But yeah fleshed out factions would've been nice at the very least for stuff to do in the world. Proper mod tools would be nice too

[warped monolith]

I can't even agree with that in some moments
upscaling turned off everything looks extremely sharp and pixellated

I wonder if they'll take a note or two from the most popular trilogy mods and implement some different gameplay mechanics with the upcoming dlcs

[plucky onyx]

yeah I play with max upscaling and max everything else. I just have to suffer through sudden drops to 5 fps when approaching traders and insane frame tearing and stuttering when loading some saves but at least it looks pretty damn good

[warped monolith]

I wouldn't mind a sandbox mode

[nocturne smelt]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1337926442561966121

[warped monolith]

[nocturne smelt]

Not perfect but as close to it as possible in the games present state.

[drowsy umbra]

yeah its pretty good one, you can visit most of the underground stuff too

[junior thicket]

the stalker 2 modding channel is gone?

[warped monolith]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1309526198833119303

[junior thicket]

thats for mod posting

[warped monolith]

beggars can't be choosers

[junior thicket]

there was a channel named just stalker2-modding for discussion

i guess it was removed?

[warped monolith]

"mods-making-discussion" is still there

[nocturne smelt]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1309182885756145685

[tough kelp]

hows stalker2 doing? i havent come back since going through the story at launch. is it time to come back yet?

[junior thicket]

depends, if you expect performance uplifts, then you are out of luck, since launch there isnt much difference in the average fps

[wanton tapir]

does anyone know of a mod thats been updated to sell artifacts at full value or even 2x value
i hate the economy of the default game i feel like you should have to hunt for artifacts and mutants for your cash
compared to feeling like you have to camp a respawning camp for hours to get 1 upgrade and repair with the other 95% of the money you make
in 1.0 how i got around this was to use the pull price glitch but they fixed it sense i played last
im not opposed to going into files and rewriting stuff if i know where to go and know what im looking at if thats a option

[junior thicket]

but on the gameplay, Alife definitely got a kick

[rain dock]

Fuck. I got all geared up with my Monolith Exosuit and RPM, only to find the mission I'm doing has stealth involved.

[finite needle]

Game's fine. Just, wish the overworld encounters would be better honestly, they aren't that great. Overall, the game's biggest shortcoming is the lack of meaningful secondary activities and encounters past Zaton, which I suppose they felt the supposed a life (literally just the clear sky faction wars) system would help alleviate - but even then, it's not even you who is supposed to do the stuff, is the AI.

The fact that you have like 6 secondary quests in total to do with Ecos, Duty and Freedom is outright unforgivable.

[rain dock]

The one thing I wish the game had more of is faction related side-quests, and general side-quests. You don't really get enough time to feel like you're a contributing member that everyone else warms up to - at least where Noontide is concerned.

Aside from that, I've just got a general list: more new anomalies, more anomalous areas (honestly one of the cooler parts of the game imo), improved AI that actually strategizes based on various factors. The gunplay and AI is really holding the game back on so many levels.

That being said, I really like the writing so far. It seems to be the one aspect of the game, aside from the environments, that received the most care.

[finite needle]

Well if you compare Stalker 2 writing and direction to the first trilogy it looks like a fucking narrative masterpiece

[wind arrow]

The original trilogy’s story directions was “Sorry bro, can’t help you, but go help this guy and he might know.” x15 until you get an exposition dump at the end of the game

[finite needle]

By exposition dump they mean exposition to radiation and 1000x Monolith troops

[warped monolith]

idi ko mne

[rain dock]

Well, obviously. What I mean is that everything feels realistic and believable, from the plot, to what happened to the factions during the past ten or so years, to the characters, to the politics involved, and how everything goes to shit.

[finite needle]

Withouth the Monlith's haunting calls the ending section would have been in my top 5 most hated ending sections in video games. It now classifies 6th.

[drowsy umbra]

the best in og stalker was the wish granted that replaced all new spawns with controllers

so when you return to the zone, all new spawns were controllers

[finite needle]

Fuck me I hated being onetapped by some mono goober the INSTANT I leaned to shoot

[rain dock]

That shit does get old really fast. It makes me wonder if they never dissected the older games to at least examine how the old AI worked.

[nocturne smelt]

Good ol gauss rifle

[finite needle]

I don't remember any ending sequence being particularly daunting in CoP, but I haven't completed the campaign for that game since at least 2012

[rain dock]

Or how the AI manages to spot you from 40 meters away through bushes and trees. Just like in the originals, but the environments feel like they span far for the rendering distance.

[finite needle]

Me summoning that mod who calls this skill issue in GAMMA but programming problems in Stalker 2

It's annoying in both (and the renegades with SVU will onetap you in GAMMA, you can just medkit spam in Stalker 2, which is not better but at least you can survive it).

[nocturne smelt]

Nosorog + best artifacts you can find + good weapons = GAMMA easy mode.

[rain dock]

The only thing I hate more than the human AI is the mutant AI. Fighting Pseudogiants and Chimeras just sucks. It's a race to see who can kill who the fastest with very little skill involved, just Endurance artifacts and whatever crates you can put between yourself and the mutant.

[nocturne smelt]

Or you just cheese them by using a doorway.

[rain dock]

"Oh, nice... Bloodsuckers are just taking turns pushing me to the ground and smacking my ass. Great game design."

[nocturne smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/foghorn-leghorn-spank-beat-beating-gif-12866723695374477811

[rain dock]

It's somewhat jarring to find that Gamma has better mutant fights than S2 when you're fighting multiple different enemies.

[nocturne smelt]

Gamma has a lot in it that make's fights more manageable.

If you walk into something you can't handle a mistake was normally made somewhere along the line.

Unless your at endgame. In which case you pop around the wrong corner and your head is removed from it's shoulders.

[wary rune]

At least you're fighting one at the time. Meanwhile psydogs spawn 3 for each 1 you kill 🙂 Literally the second worst mutant after that psybayun from Duty encounter

[rain dock]

The pseudodogs do need to be tuned down on spawning illusions. Weirdly enough, I actually like the cat mutant in S2.

[wary rune]

Cat is fine by itself but not when it spawns 10 illusions that are as nimble :V

Btw. did anyone try attacking Zalissya right after intro? NPCs are actually killable. Not sure if that was the case at release

[rain dock]

I... don't recall the cats making illusions. In my experience, it throws voices all over the place to distract you while scrambling around. It also makes you fall asleep for a few seconds so it can reposition.

[wary rune]

There's a special cat near the Wild Island

[rain dock]

Ah, just like the Pseudogiant that can use telekinesis in Red Forest.

[wary rune]

https://tenor.com/view/the-what-smile-whut-weird-stare-gif-16592004

[rain dock]

Have fun 👋

[nocturne smelt]

Collars make mutants fun.

[finite needle]

Most people won't go in the swamps with a Nosorog first time. They might in the Red Forest tho.

[rain dock]

I will say, a Bloodsucker that makes no noise while stalking you is terrifying. It must have been an audio bug, but I was sitting there with a Rhino and listening for it in some underground lab. Nothing but silence for what seemed like forever. Then it just fucking materialized three feet in front me out of nowhere when lunging, screaming at me. Actually made me jump in my seat.

[finite needle]

Still not as annoying s 2 (two) psi dogs.

That has to be the last fun encounter in all of stalker

[wary rune]

I think it's the single worst quest so far. Literally run around the map and kill a mutant ... or even don't. Huge time investment for a pretty good reward, but it sucks to run around that much

[nocturne smelt]

I meant for the monolith gauntlet at the end. But yeah, Finding one to do swamps would be rough. I've done multiple playthrough where a nosorog never even drops.

[nocturne smelt]

The quest is meh, The mutant fights are cool since they merge different mutant abilities together.

[wary rune]

Now that I think of it. How about psydog creating copies but they can go invis just like c0cksuckers

[nocturne smelt]

Only the main one or all the clones too? 😄

[wary rune]

All the clones too. Might as well drop the bloodsucker' scream for each of them

[nocturne smelt]

That would be wild. Grenade spam engaged.

[rain dock]

Clear Sky, is that you?

[wary rune]

https://tenor.com/view/reminisce-memory-fond-memory-thinking-back-old-days-gif-10331903927982886480

[rain dock]

Npcs with satellite guided grenades...

[wary rune]

I don't know how that worked but every single enemy threw a grenade at the same time right at your feet :V

[rain dock]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

Yeah, the AI was overtuned if you enabled them to have grenades in Clear Sky.

[nocturne smelt]

War, War never changes...

https://tenor.com/view/war-never-changes-war-fallout-soldier-run-gif-16498934

[rain dock]

I made a huge mistake when siding with the Bandit faction on my first attempt at Clear Sky.

[wary rune]

Wait, it was also Clear Sky where everyone at Yantar gets stomped by zombies even before you get to the base

[wary rune]

Yeah, game simply softlocks you

[nocturne smelt]

Won't lie, It's my least favorite Stalker game. I've only played it a few times.

[rain dock]

Maybe there's a mod that makes it possible, but I've always had a soft spot for Bandits. Even if they are despicable rats.

Maybe it's the whole underdog thing about their faction that I find appealing.

[wary rune]

They were pretty great in CS but the game was a buggy mess. I think only bandit technician could fully upgrade SEVA

[stuck marlin]

help!

[neon kettle]

Question: Is there an up to date modlist for groks stalker 2?

[nocturne smelt]

Groks mods for stalker 2 haven't been updated in a long time. You'd probably have better luck looking on nexus or in https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1309526198833119303

[nocturne smelt]

Try here https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1029824156289732649 or https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1026866080347603065. This channel is for Stalker 2.

[warped monolith]

grok dropped stalker 2 modding after doing his 'mutant rebalance' mod

he went back to gamma

[stuck marlin]

yep sorry i got the wrong chat

[nocturne smelt]

All good.

[wary rune]

Obligatory "When Gamma 2?" post

[neon kettle]

do u reckon his mods are broken now?

[nocturne smelt]

They edit a lot of CFG files so compatibility will be an issue. As for if they still work at all, I'm not sure.

There are more up to date mods that accomplish the same things if you look for them though.

[neon kettle]

ok, the main thing is way way way less loot + also make the bloodsuckers less tanky

[nocturne smelt]

Try here https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1310390727485952102 but you may wat to look at what Nexus has on offer to more fit exactly what you want. Just make sure to check when it was last updated and if the comments mention if they are working still or not.

Nexus is full of dead mods.

[neon kettle]

I actually never played the base game lol

i played with groks initial modpack 1st.. but I gave up after it kept crashing.. im revisiting it now.. would be nice to play groks version again but I guess I cant

[nocturne smelt]

I'd play it unmodded first then, Things will seem crazy at first but as you progress you learn how to deal with them, what ammo to use, and generally get more powerful as you go.

[rain dock]

Is there a real difference between muzzle velocity, flatness, damage drop-off, and bullet range upgrades?

[nocturne smelt]

Muzzle velocity is how fast the round gets to the target.

Flatness is the trajectory of the round.

Damage drop off is the Damage penalty when hitting something outside effective range.

Bullet range modifies the effective range of the weapon.

[rain dock]

Thanks. Wish the devs would put that sweet and simple description in game.

You can put an underbarrel shotgun on the Super? That's amazing.

[finite needle]

Underbarrel shotgun under the kharod might be the best thing of the game in the gun departmen tbh

[nocturne smelt]

I never use UGLs but they did a decent job with attachments. I just hate the sight limitations even though almost everything is using a picatinny rail.

Shit makes no sense.

[rain dock]

Is it me, or does the holographic sight seem to just... obscure your vision more than it assists?

[nocturne smelt]

This?

[rain dock]

Seems like it just feels better in Gamma for some reason. I could be biased.

[rain dock]

No, the black frame when you're ADS.

Such a tiny window, but you have a thick frame that just gives me the ick.

[nocturne smelt]

Ah, imo they put the sights to close to the back of the rail.

Wish we could move it forward.

[rain dock]

I noticed that on some weapons it's positioned farther back. With others, it's further down the barrel.

[nocturne smelt]

Wish we could get a front rail and put it there honestly.

[rain dock]

I would kill to have more pistols in the game. Some of these special variants differ only slightly from the UDP Compact. I'm getting tired of using the Rhino, but it's so useful when you need it.

[nocturne smelt]

I'm hoping they will reintroduce a lot of the trilogy weapons when DLCs are dropped.

So many are missing.

[rain dock]

Good ol' Black Kite

That's the only one I can remember off the top of my head. I remember Ghost's stalker suit from SoC more than any unique weapons because I think it... healed you?

I gun down one Ecologist in a room full of Wards wearing exoskeletons, with an RPM, for a main quest, and suddenly I'm banned from Malachite.

[nocturne smelt]

Pretty much lol

[neon kettle]

I ended up installing this .. https://www.nexusmods.com/games/stalker2heartofchornobyl/collections/a34ikv/mods

[nocturne smelt]

Let me know if you like it.

Always willing to try something new.

[neon kettle]

sure

[wary nimbus]

Install OXA and forget about limitations 😄

[nocturne smelt]

I have it, I was just talking from a Vanilla standpoint.

Their decisions on attachements was odd.

[wary nimbus]

Yeah, before OXA It was getting me really pissed off. There are so much irritating things in this game but this one was one of the worst

[icy bough]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHcf21Bf37w

[golden hazel]

They promised Cheeki Breeki and I only have ever heard that voice line once in 1.0.0 I'm pretty sure they removed it at this point

The S in GSC clearly stands for Scamrovich

[icy bough]

[agile axle]

Only mod that you should use for the first run is the optimizing fix, since it can give you a 30fps boost

Rn I am at the 80th hour mark and I should be close to the end of the first run and there are so many things that needs fixing

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker-tv-stalker-build-tv-stalker-build-build-gif-3756457842748169719

[agile axle]

My avg rn is around 80/90 with all max

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah, Game is a mess. Mods make it better overall.

[agile axle]

Dips pretty hard in settlements and in the open field it's 120+fps

[nocturne smelt]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZWdjeWY1NzBwcjF6cWNwenc1d3V2dzcwZG5rc3F4ajBrMzg0cng4ZiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/vKHKDIdvxvN7vTAEOM/giphy.gif

[warped monolith]

what resolution and specs?

[agile axle]

GPU is a 6900xt and 2560x1440 res

[warped monolith]

nice

I'm using a 4070 Ti at 1440p as well and my framerate in Zalissya was around 70

but this was way back in 1.0. Haven't played recently.

[agile axle]

Item degradation needs to be reduced by 3/4th,
Selling value with high reputations needs to be increased, selling at max 24% is too little,
The repair cost is too high

The AI is, what we all know and won't repeat everything wrong with it,
Missions pay too little and most of the times you will go red with repair of items damaged during the mission

[warped monolith]

Having zero modding experience and being completely ignorant, I would assume it may not be too difficult to change these values

[agile axle]

Yeah, and I know that there should be some that are already out, but first I wanted to form an opinion after finishing the game vanilla, but even with the recent patch they are still changing gameplay stuff, like the artifact weird water rn doesn't have the removal of radiation effect and the vision distortion is much bigger than before

And yeah, the infinite money glitch is still possible so, you could technically cheat and have infinite money if you want

[nocturne smelt]

Must have all the pixels. 😄

[agile axle]

Is it a curved ultra wide monitor ?

[warped monolith]

agreed. Even if the devs still haven't fully tweaked the game values to their preference, I would still rather play vanilla to get the "intended experience"

[nocturne smelt]

Yes.

[nocturne smelt]

100% agree, Everyone's first playthrough should be vanilla minus maybe some performance tweaking.

[split crown]

[agile axle]

Usual bullshot from developers, the standard for the last two decades

[split crown]

yeah
I know

[plucky onyx]

The world just seems much less alive (not a life) than the other games. The mercenaries for example are just always hostile. You can’t do anything for Duty/you hardly can interact with them at all. Freedom is okay I guess. The game is way too focused on the main story and the rest of the world is just a small complement to it. Even the side quests seem few and far between and most are pretty lacking or just straight up fetch quests with some pda’s for a little story added to it. Also the ai sucks and stealth is still completely broken.

[nocturne smelt]

I have a problem.

[split crown]

The saddest part is I still haven't finished the game once due to me restarting my playthroughs so many times.

[plucky onyx]

You have not a life

[split crown]

[warped monolith]

or unofficial patches to improve the game's performance and stability. I would never wish vanilla Fallout New Vegas or the OG Stalker trilogy on my worst enemy.

[golden hazel]

Stalker 2 more like Not A-Life 2

[nocturne smelt]

lol, People need to experience the eurojank. 😄

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-12025494061090948219

[plucky onyx]

Idk metro is a pretty fuckin good series, other than the last couple levels of exodus that got rushed

Kcd 2 is euro also

[agile axle]

CoP vanilla was not a bad experience from what I remember, I played it on a shitty laptop like 10 years ago

[nocturne smelt]

What!?

Clear Sky was the worst one imo lol

[split crown]

I remember CoP would constantly CtD when I'd launch it many years ago lmao

[nocturne smelt]

That shit was so busted when it came out.

[plucky onyx]

All I know is the first one I kept dying from radiation at the last level because no anti radiation stuff

[split crown]

I also remember playing all 3 STALKER games using their physical CDs

[plucky onyx]

Also I didnt know the difference between artefacts and anomalies and wtf they were

I think the first one was my favorite story though. Clear sky was confusing, pripyat was find helicopter

[nocturne smelt]

I agree, first one was fantastic. Clear sky I did not enjoy nearly as much. CoP really didn't start to get interesting until you get to outskirts.

Then again you pop Gunslinger onto CoP and it just becomes fantastic.

[plucky onyx]

Pripyat had best soundtrack tho

[warped monolith]

fixing crashes and bsods can still leave plenty of eurojank to experience

[warped monolith]

sure, but vanilla SoC used to bluescreen my computer

[agile axle]

After buying and playing stalker 2 I think I'll wait some years before getting another burn with kcd2, I loved the first one

[nocturne smelt]

I'm not disagreeing.

[plucky onyx]

Kcd 2 was really good. Plus just fitgirl repacks

[nocturne smelt]

KCD 2 was fantastic. Probably one of the most optimized games of the year so far.

[agile axle]

I think they got like some members of the og crysis team in order to optimize the engine

[plucky onyx]

Plus they got mod support like right away

We got schizo scar and malachite mommy and some sudden frame drops and that’s about it

[drowsy umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker2-scar-laugh-gif-12786287499780353633

[covert eagle]

the state of the UE5 gaming era

Ray traced tiddy and 35 fps

[split crown]

yea I'm probably just taking a break from the game until GSC finally releases the full modding toolkit and/or complete overhauls for the game's missing and broken features.

I still believe that if GSC had released the modding kit at the same time as the game's release, then the modding community would have probably fixed most of their issues by now.

*How fucked can the dev side be? *

[drowsy umbra]

from my experience of working with UE toolkits I assume the toolkit isnt just as ready as they want it to be

[split crown]

maybe so

[drowsy umbra]

and looking at UE 4 toolkits its probably as bugridden as the game itself

[split crown]

I think I read it somewhere in this channel some time ago, but apparently GSC had originally cooked Sdalger 2 to be running on UE4; however, at some point along the way, Microsoft forced them to abandon that version and jump to UE5 for some reason.

If that's the case, it's no wonder GSC is running into so many issues if they didn't have proper time to optimize and move everything over to UE5.

[drowsy umbra]

thats safe to assume

UE 4 is not easy to handle in terms of proper editor work and porting that to UE 5 isnt that easy as it breaks a lot of assets

especially the differences of environment handling, nanite vs landscape tiling

[split crown]

Ayup, which is why I'm guessing GSC had to cut so many massive features of the game - like how atrocious the lighting and eye adaptation both look in-game lmao

[drowsy umbra]

the eye adaptation is an UE wide weakness

I am working for a different company on UE 4 train sim games and we have the same issues with eye adaptation

its just so bad to adjust, especially with stark lighting contrasts, tunnels etc

[split crown]

ah

Damn that sucks man.

[drowsy umbra]

this game just needed so much more time to cook

[split crown]

Mhm. But hey, what can ya do when you have both Microsoft and investors strangling you on deadlines eh

[plucky onyx]

https://ua.linkedin.com/in/evgeniygrygorovych

maybe if we spam him enough

[drowsy umbra]

you can do eye adaptation properly but that needs both setting up with the light bakings and general light settings

[plucky onyx]

https://cz.linkedin.com/in/yuri-sidorenko-b95167156?trk=people-guest_people_search-card

lead game designer went to National Mining University

The last company he worked for until 2017 made blockbuster titles such as

[split crown]

Amazing really

[warped monolith]

can we play as the martians

[nocturne smelt]

Sounds like a banger of a game. Sign me up.

[spark gate]

iirc, the transition from ue4 to 5 and trying to get stuff from the 4 build to ue5 caused so many clusterfucks

they cut my man noah cuz of that

[spark gate]

red alert 3 had a better goofy soviet storyline than that

[nocturne smelt]

But did it have Martians, eh?

https://tenor.com/view/mars-attacks-martian-mars-attacks-gif-5841021

[warped monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/space-tim-curry-gif-7935778

[plucky onyx]

the only place I could find info on "Scivelation" was a website titled Stop Game

[split crown]

I was fucking wondering why his shack is empty and full of traps...

[nocturne smelt]

Looks like a great article... I can't read shit on it, But it looks good.

[plucky onyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtdBdwooW8M&ab_channel=gruntman438

https://store.steampowered.com/search/?developer=Black Wing Foundation

[nocturne smelt]

Company is top tier.

[plucky onyx]

maybe I should be checking the credentials of devs before I buy....

"chaos domain Stalker 2 is a game about shooting bad people in the face. Apart from that, it is also a run and gun platformer, powered by Unreal Engine"

"This is a broken game and you should not waste your time on it, when I originally bought it, the game worked about 50% of the time"

[split crown]

Most real not-Sdalger 2 review ever written

this is what happens when you don't steal enough copper wire

[plucky onyx]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[golden hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1332854073074126969/game_has_not_alife.gif

[spark gate]

No, but it had tim curry as evil soviet premier, jk simmons as american robot president and george takei as the emperor of japan who piloted a giant mecha. Combined that with ric flair being in the expansion

[warped monolith]

don't forget gina carano

[split crown]

Truly some cinema gaming

[spark gate]

People didnt like ra3 for some reason. But i loved that game just because they went all in on the cutscenes and ridiculous story elements

[bright star]

downloaded Stalker 2 today and all it's done is make me appreciate GAMMA more. This shit is buggy af

the stutter is real when it kicks in even though I have Groks tweaks mod installed

[flint sparrow]

No one's perfect but fair point

[flint sparrow]

Let's just hope the game gets fixed either this year or next year

[plucky onyx]

Stalker machine broke come back later

[flint sparrow]

Since it wasn't as bad as Cyberpunk's launch, the fixing shouldn't be as long, hopefully

Then again, I'm dumb

[plucky onyx]

https://youtu.be/jlF0_FPTFPI

implying there will be fixing

[flint sparrow]

You could be nicer about it. I'm just trying to be friendly

I'm not a nerd that knows everything there is to know about Stalker and the Zone. I just started playing last year on and off

[golden hazel]

They will fix the future battle pass shop

https://tenor.com/view/strelok-stalker-shadow-of-chernobyl-gif-10863075480991008005

[flint sparrow]

Is that confirmed or is this a joke?

[plucky onyx]

Yeah well im retarded, so beat that, nerd

[golden hazel]

Gadeem

[flint sparrow]

Do you say this IRL?

[flint sparrow]

Ok it's a joke. I'm not good with sarcasm

[plucky onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-soylent-soy-soyface-nerd-gif-11917812235578842485

[golden hazel]

[flint sparrow]

We should go back on topic

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-radar-gif-26553049

[flint sparrow]

Did I do something wrong?

[plucky onyx]

https://youtu.be/ZRF2071HZRU

[flint sparrow]

Fine. Be that way

[icy basin]

[icy basin]

Why is chat weirdly dogpiling a newcomer

[lime umbra]

Bro literally said maybe the game will be better
And the jumped on him

Like wtf

[icy basin]

Quite the opposite. Matter of fact, this weird behaviour is punishable

[plucky onyx]

He was joking around with us, he wasn’t being serious either

[lime umbra]

Doesn't look that way

[icy basin]

Right.

[plucky onyx]

[flint sparrow]

I just started talking and got mocked for no apparent reason

[lime umbra]

Yeah

[flint sparrow]

I don't know what I did wrong or if I did anything wrong

[lime umbra]

You really didn't
But you entered the chat when the stale meme hour was on

[plucky onyx]

Total fuckin troll

[plucky onyx]

Oh hue hue hue

[flint sparrow]

I'll keep that in mind for next time. Thanks for the heads up

I just wish people would be more friendly

[plucky onyx]

The fact that these dumbasses believe your troll shit is impressive

Good work

[flint sparrow]

I wasn't even trolling. I was making conversation

So being nice is trolling now. Guess I'm the biggest troll in existence

[plucky onyx]

https://youtu.be/MXcxWsdjYHA

[flint sparrow]

Sides, we should get back on topic

[icy basin]

This doesn't seem pertinent

[icy basin]

Do you know the first rule of engaging trolls on the internet if you believe they are?
Just don't
If you really think they're trolling, use the block button
Will make you look less like a weirdo

[agile axle]

The most impressive thing for the game imo is exploring the zone with no loading times

[tacit glacier]

this tbh

Now if only the game looked better.

[flint sparrow]

I think it looks pretty good but it needs some tweaks on the graphics to look better

[agile axle]

reshade can fix 90% of the visuals

[static shuttle]

can a 1660 GTX possibly run the game at a smooth 60fps on low settings

[flint sparrow]

Your mileage may vary

[tacit glacier]

This game struggles to maintain 60 on a 4080 Super on Low in places. Take a guess.

[static shuttle]

what about 20fps

[tacit glacier]

That is hittable

[flint sparrow]

I'll just hope the next computer I build will be able to run it at native with DLAA and I'll be set

[static shuttle]

ill just convince myself its 60

[flint sparrow]

Isn't it different for everyone or something?

[agile axle]

settlements dips very hard, I think it's ue5 overworking the cpu

[static shuttle]

ue5 is dogshit

[flint sparrow]

Explain Black Myth Wukong

[golden hazel]

If you install a mod to remove the lighting, yes

[tacit glacier]

But yeah after finishing S2 at maxed out settings the rose tinted glasses came off.
Especially after playing Atomfall for a few days now and experiencing the sharp imagine quality.

The issue with STALKER 2 is that it's current look feels directionless and in several places its severely lacking.
Like I sure do love how when exploring the wilderness the game looks like someone forgot to turn on the shadows at times.
Or that the shading sometimes just looks like a "My first blender project."

Then I played Atomfall and while the Antialiasing is dogshit, the visual design is what caught me.
Turns out you can make a good looking and running game without relying on upscaling, framegen and all the bullcrap that is Lumen, Nanite and other real time ray tracing shit.

[static shuttle]

some games run well but there are a good majority of developers that dont utilize ue5 properly or something

[flint sparrow]

Lead with people not knowing how to be game devs and not saying a game engine is terrible which makes 0 sense in my opinion

[tacit glacier]

I swear, STALKER 2 would've been better off if it stayed on UE4

It would take longer cause the devs would have to actually make the lighting instead of relying on automated UE5 tools.

[flint sparrow]

Isn't Stalker 2 on UE 5.1 or some older version of the engine?

[lime umbra]

Nah it's 5.0

[tacit glacier]

No, it's 5.1

[static shuttle]

stalker 2 xray engine 😍

[tacit glacier]

Custom built UE5.1 to be exact

[flint sparrow]

I think the newer versions have ironed out some of the flaws but I don't make games on the engine

[tacit glacier]

So updating to later versions of UE is going to be hard now since they'll have to forward their own changes that were required to make the game run

[flint sparrow]

So they're stuck on an engine they have no experience using and are having to iron things out themselves

[static shuttle]

exactly bro

the numbers are just illusions to sell more graphics cards

[flint sparrow]

We used to play games at 30 fps back in the day in fairness

[static shuttle]

looked pretty nice too

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-gif-14251978375826396304

[proud ruin]

Must consoooom

[flint sparrow]

I mean I much prefer what we have now but back then, it was decent for the time

[tacit glacier]

30FPS back in the day looked better because we had CRT's instead of LCD's
Something about how they refreshed the screen afaik

[flint sparrow]

I never used a CRT so I can't say for sure

[tacit glacier]

I personally can see the difference between 60FPS and 120FPS
But I can't see the difference between 120FPS to 240FPS

[flint sparrow]

I like consuming

[proud ruin]

This is the peak stalker 2 setup, haters will say it’s fake

[static shuttle]

now thats a zone-standard PC

[flint sparrow]

Any higher is law of diminishing returns. I like number go up sometimes but I'm more concerned with game running well while looking decent enough

[golden hazel]

[tacit glacier]

It's fake cause Shadow of Chernobyl came out for Vista

[proud ruin]

Haters will say it’s fake

[tacit glacier]

Gods
2007 will be 20 years ago in 2 years

[golden hazel]

Byeah

[flint sparrow]

Yes it will. I'm feeling old and I was born in 2004

[static shuttle]

unc

[proud ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

[static shuttle]

saying 2004 like you're not senile by now

[flint sparrow]

I feel that way

And I'm nearly 21

[static shuttle]

what

[proud ruin]

people born after 2000 saying they feel old

[flint sparrow]

Yeah it's cringe and cliche. Gotta quit doing that

[static shuttle]

like the i hate my wife jokes

[flint sparrow]

Yeah those got old quickly

[static shuttle]

if everyone died equality issues will be fixed

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-anime-jojos-bizarre-adventure-kars-universe-gif-16862992

[flint sparrow]

As dark as that is, it's accurate

[static shuttle]

if everyone died all problems will be fixed because we're the root of all our problems

[proud ruin]

[flint sparrow]

I'm not going there

[proud ruin]

The root of all problems is Hungarians

[flint sparrow]

The root of all problems is the damn French

[static shuttle]

No man thats racist

[static shuttle]

real

[wary nimbus]

Just watching some older trailers and have a conclusion - my god, what they have done to the zone in the release version. Dont have the comparison screenshots but just on these few scenes from "Це не рай" trailer. Like wtf, how much trees from the game map they have deleted. It almost looks like a competently different map now. More forested map made the game more atmospheric imo.

[static shuttle]

ehh too lively for my taste

remove all the effects and add 2D grass

[flint sparrow]

I'm not one for doing side by side comparisons since they're a waste of time for me

Sides, I'd be fine with either

[agile axle]

It's all bullshot

[static shuttle]

man i just wanna play the damn game

[flint sparrow]

In retrospect, the vast majority of gamers don't care

[golden hazel]

It's peak, Skeefa

[flint sparrow]

This is with graphics at low or something?

[golden hazel]

It's with graphics on low having a stroke because of a memory leak

[flint sparrow]

Thanks for the clarification

[tacit glacier]

There's also the fact lighting behaves completely different in the trailers and in the release version

[wary nimbus]

Lighting was propably pimped up for the trailers

[tacit glacier]

People joke about game not having a-life

Time for a new joke

[flint sparrow]

Probably had to be tweaked for optimisation reasons. Unfortunate but what can you do?

[wary nimbus]

But they had to phisycly "deforest" the map for optimizations

[proud ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[static shuttle]

clean shave the map and add a 2d skybox for optimization

[wary nimbus]

Nothing, just waiting for SDK and a map editor to make the Zone forested again xD

[flint sparrow]

Maybe one day it will be. But we're fine in the meantime

[proud ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-mid-walter-white-gif-26241410

[flint sparrow]

Haha

[flint sparrow]

Might give me a good excuse to try out modding when they release

[tacit glacier]

This game does not have a-light

[static shuttle]

we should ask the wish granter for stalker 2

[proud ruin]

installs Chernobylite 2

[tacit glacier]

Also I'm pretty sure the biggest downgrade in visuals comes from one thing.

No Hardware Lumen.

[flint sparrow]

Real talk, don't those jokes overstay their welcome way too quickly?

[tacit glacier]

Software Lumen at its downscales scale is so fucking gimped

[golden hazel]

The game has not A Life, A Light, multiplayer, Sahkarov, Noah, but it does have The Mercenary formerly known as SCAR

[flint sparrow]

Did I say something wrong? Sorry if I did

[wary nimbus]

Yeah, the lighting artifacts which it causes are really bad

[static shuttle]

these people dont have a-life lol

[flint sparrow]

Yeah. I'm glad I don't live on the internet like I used to

[tacit glacier]

You didn't
I'm just stating the fact.
The greatest downgrade in visuals here likely comes from there being no hardware lumen support.
It probably impacts framerate as well knowing our luck

[static shuttle]

unlike redditors you survived

[wary nimbus]

Which one is better in terms of performance, software or hardware lumen?

[flint sparrow]

Forgive me. My first experience here was not the most positive so now I'm just confused. Could hardware Lumen be added once the SDK releases?

[tacit glacier]

Hardware Lumen is something the devs have to add.

[flint sparrow]

Hardware Lumen would be running on the GPU while software Lumen runs on the CPU is my guess

[wary nimbus]

Actually nobody knows how much tools we will get with SDK

[static shuttle]

we need an artifact to run stalker 2

[wary nimbus]

and how modifyable will be the game engine

[tacit glacier]

According to the google summary ai

[wary nimbus]

We should at least have an option and see how the game perform in both

[tacit glacier]

Hardware Lumen on the other hand would be completely on the GPU side I think

[flint sparrow]

UE5 source code is available if you have an Epic account and Github account but how moddable the game itself is something we'll have to see for ourselves

[golden hazel]

The only thing they've said about relating to mods that I can remember from pre release was "Full Mod Support" and they probably removed that from the store page too

[wary nimbus]

Full Mod Support - we give you a Mod.io platform for easier mod installing and have fun xDDD

[tacit glacier]

God stalker 2 memes rotted my brain
I mistyped steam and for a second my thought screamed

STEEEMA

We have to buy games on the spring sale Steema!

[tacit glacier]

Mod support is still on the game page

[flint sparrow]

I'm already sick of the endless jokes but I'mma have to get used to it I suppose

Some of them are funny but others just confuse me and get annoying

[wary nimbus]

Many people say that they should release the SDK after fixing the game. But actually nobody knows long it will take to fix the game. And player base is still dropping so in my opion they should release SDK as soon as possible to bring some people back

[golden hazel]

My guess is the game will be fixed in like 1.5 years

They've been fixing things but also breaking things every patch

[wary nimbus]

Old Stalkers are still in unifinished state after like 18 years or so? xD

[flint sparrow]

Since it wasn't too much like Cyberpunk, maybe it will be fixed a little faster

[flint sparrow]

I still get crashes and endless bugs on vanilla SoC so there's that

Crashes are rare but they have happened at inopportune times

[wary nimbus]

I often play Arma games and I really like what they are doing with Arma Reforger - full mod support with tools from the beggining, plain and often dev - player communications

I really love if GSC went that way also

[flint sparrow]

GSC has been decent with comms but it could be a lot better on their end

[golden hazel]

GSC is definitely limited by their contract with Microsoft

[wary nimbus]

The only way of their communication is basicly "GSC answers" channel on their discord

No devblogs, no sitreps etc.

[flint sparrow]

I think Microsoft is the reason they haven't fully shut down

[golden hazel]

Correct

[flint sparrow]

I did say could be a lot better but I have seen some CMs on the Stalker subreddit which is something but more comms is needed

[flint sparrow]

Outside of the changelogs and other stuff, this is definitely a must have

[wary nimbus]

Most importating this regarding their comms is lack of roadmap still

We have no clue what they are doing actually

[flint sparrow]

That is something we will benefit from

[golden hazel]

There's no way they could commit to a roadmap

[flint sparrow]

Agreed. Too many things to fix right now

[wary nimbus]

Roadmap should have no fixes mentioned - that a obvious thing. I mean roadmap should revale which content and functions they plan to add to the game. And no dates because its an overkill. If anybody of dinosaurs like me remember the game called Survarium and its roadmap then he should know

[golden hazel]

Survarium

[flint sparrow]

I am not that old so can't speak from experience

[wary nimbus]

Q3 2012 - freeplay mode 💀

[flint sparrow]

That bad?

[wary nimbus]

They promissed alot of thing but menaged to deliver maybe 20% of them and project is shut down nowdays

[flint sparrow]

Ooh damn that's rough

[wary nimbus]

Many of the old og GSC workers have been in the studio that was doing that game

It it was stated that it would be a real Stalker 2 spiritual successor

(Fun fact the game was actually a Arena PVP shooter, the setting was only simmilar)

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/metro-metro-exodus-middle-finger-metro-miller-there-is-only-metro-gif-19661553

[proud ruin]

Metro is my favourite game about a mute autist

[golden hazel]

I still need to play those

[proud ruin]

It’s actually really good

Exodus is alright but the first 2 are goated

[icy basin]

They go on big sales regularly

[golden hazel]

[nocturne smelt]

First 2 are fantastic. Exodus Is really good too. I enjoyed the story and Development of the Anna character.

[golden hazel]

Wait so which is the 1st one

[icy basin]

Like 90% off

[nocturne smelt]

Metro 2033

[icy basin]

Metro 2033 (Redux)

Metro 2033 Redux, Metro Last Light, Metro Exodus, in order

[golden hazel]

I'm guessing there's a lore reasoning behind the names but then again it's former gsc devs so

[nocturne smelt]

Yes. There is.

Games are way more polished than any released stalker.

[golden hazel]

Yeah from the few gameplay clips I saw a century ago I got the feeling not seeing enemies pop in from the ground and then submerge back down that it would be more polished

[nocturne smelt]

To be fair, They are simpler games. They do not have the same amount of system working as Stalker. They are also very linear story games.

But they are fantastic.

Minus exodus, That one moved more into the stalker direction but still not quite the same.

[lime umbra]

2033 is better than the stalker saga alone

[icy basin]

"Redux" is just a moniker in place because, well, they remade the two games after the release of Metro Last Light

Now Metro 2033 has features from Last Light

[golden hazel]

Oh so a proper remake

[icy basin]

Sorta-kinda

Fundamentally the same game with some QOL

[golden hazel]

God DAYUM

[nocturne smelt]

When times were different.

[golden hazel]

Seeing proper lighting after playing HoC Tuah

[tacit glacier]

You know what I find kind of funny?
When you compare S2 and Metro Exodus side by side in Volga the two games look pretty similar, but when you look at the details the lighting has so much more depth in Metro.
It doesn't help that Exodus looks sharp.

[nocturne smelt]

It also doesn't help that you don't need a quantum computer to get over 30 fps.

[tacit glacier]

Metro 2033 Redux is the same game but with Last Light visuals and redone cutscenes.

• Original game has 3rd person cutscenes
• Redux keeps the player grounded in first person

Last Light Redux is..
Well it exists

[golden hazel]

oh damn the original 2033 came out in 2010

So it didn't have the revolutionary fish ai that Ghosts debuted with in 2013 😔

[lime umbra]

It has HD hair works tho

[nocturne smelt]

If you enjoy the Stalker franchise, And you want something more linear. They are 100% don't miss games imo.

[golden hazel]

Definitely gonna snag em on sale

[icy basin]

Last Light is still worth a play imo

[nocturne smelt]

I'd play them all in order, They feed off each other. Just keep in mind there are canon endings that you may or may not get based on how you play.

[golden hazel]

If it's anything like the SoC endings I'm gonna get the one with the most amount of bullets shot

[nocturne smelt]

The first 2 games each have 2 potential endings. Based on how you play.

I don't want to spoil anything for you so I'm going to leave it at that.

[tacit glacier]

Oh I'm not saying Last Light is a bad game.
I'm just questioning the existence of Redux when it seems the only difference I can spot so far is the addition of

L e n s F l a r e s

Michael Bay would be proud

Also Redux is brighter I guess

Staggering differences that you have to look for with a fucking spyglass

[icy basin]

Eh
They had to get some money back

[tacit glacier]

Okay apparently Redux comes with improved AI and Survival difficulty setting

watch stalker 2 end dev cycle and GSC in a few years goes
"Here's STALKER 2 Redux with A-Life 2.5"

Same game.
Same graphics.
Smarter npc's that don't get stuck on terrain

[golden hazel]

(They still get stuck on terrain)

[nocturne smelt]

Be careful, You'll give them ideas.

[tacit glacier]

They are already planning on releasing console ports of original trilogy on PC

They already have the ideas

[golden hazel]

Ain't no way

[tacit glacier]

Yes way

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-gif-5848418847127216186

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah, But to be honest. I doubt most fans are going to swap. The original trilogy is now more defined by it's mods than the games themselves.

It's a ploy to bring in more people who have not gotten invested into the franchise yet.

Or people who started with S2 and want to play the originals.

[golden hazel]

It's only a matter of time before they do a SoC remake in UE5

[tacit glacier]

I mean

[nocturne smelt]

Omg, God forbid. They would probably still make it in UE5.1. Yuck.

[tacit glacier]

It may prompt some more popular mods to port over if possible if they say, make the trilogy run on 64 bits

[nocturne smelt]

It would depend on if they make them as moddable again. Cause they can easily change shit and screw us over.

[tacit glacier]

afaik its still xrengine

[golden hazel]

Imagine multi core XRay

Now it can brick twice as fast

[tacit glacier]

Modding is just gimped on consoles because players cant access the deeper script files due to limitation enforced by Xbox/Sony

[nocturne smelt]

100%, I just don't trust them to not try some fuck shit.

Sorry for repost, It linked to wrong comment for some reason.

[tacit glacier]

Report?!

I'm joking

[west moth]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-trek-report-status-damage-gif-21869277

[nocturne smelt]

Oh no!

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-hide-in-shrubs-hiding-in-bushes-disappear-into-hedges-embarrassed-gif-24183287

[tacit glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-death-dissolved-infinity-war-avengers-gif-831073870261593811

[west moth]

Thats the brain scorcher, stalker

[tacit glacier]

The joke is that discord has been trigger happy when it comes to handing out bans.

[nocturne smelt]

I have not noticed to be honest.

[west moth]

They are pimping the bride for the stock market. Enshittification incoming

[nocturne smelt]

They are getting ready for those full page ADs.

[west moth]

They should get A-Life

[nocturne smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/look-serious-side-eye-ben-mendolsohn-ready-player-one-gif-11480086

Ads everywhere!

[west moth]

https://tenor.com/view/bullshit-youre-lying-sidorovich-eating-sidorovich-talking-sidorovich-stalker-gif-3416750550931944835

[split crown]

Just looked up what Atomfall is; looks interesting and the colors + visuals of the game give me Bioshock vibes which is neat.

[nocturne smelt]

Bioshock x Fallout in Britain. Haven't played it myself yet but that's the vibe I get from what I've seen.

[tacit glacier]

I don't think Bioshock comparison is that accurate tbh
More like Fallout x STALKER

Even the lore in Atomfall makes it steer more into stalker territory (shady hidden labs doing shady secret stuff)

[split crown]

also, I saw yall were talking about Metro earlier; I still don't know what exactly the difference is between these two, but I'm assuming the Complete Edition is the one I'd wanna launch if I wanted to play through Last Light again?

...Unless Redux is a remake of the Complete Edition lol

[west moth]

Complete is the original game with all the DLCs, Redux is Complete remastered. They tuned graphics and gameplay a little

[tacit glacier]

Redux supposedly is the "remaster" but it looks identical with some barely noticeable difference and additions lmao

The answers on the gsc server regarding stalker 2

[split crown]

Gotcha, thank you

[split crown]

Hello, I'm under the water

[nocturne smelt]

Every answer is basically "We have no answer". Community engagement is crucial but their Q&A sessions seem pointless.

[west moth]

I mean the questions are trolly too

[split crown]

Fair, the first question regarding Sidorovich and flooding + the game being unplayable makes no sense but is funny af

[tacit glacier]

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/stalker/s/kLcYvl3wz2

[split crown]

[tacit glacier]

Scar has a good Dental Plan

Do you?

[split crown]

bro just really needs to whisper into your ear how to efficiently and properly steal all the Ward's copper wiring

[nocturne smelt]

The first one sure, The other 2 less so.

[west moth]

Yeah GSC could really work on their communication. They aren't exactly in the position to be snarky and sarcastic

[golden hazel]

Skibidi Scar confirmed?

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah, That's my point. Give us something. I don't expect you to outline every change but something lol.

They act like half the community hasn't written off the game until further notice.

[proud ruin]

[west moth]

[agile axle]

welp, the flashlight doesn't work anymore

[nocturne smelt]

What do you mean? Your getting no light source from the flashlight?

[agile axle]

yes

[nocturne smelt]

Do you have any mods that affect the flashlight?

[agile axle]

I only have the optimize mod

[nocturne smelt]

Hmm, Have you tried restarting the game or loading a save?

Which Optimization mod are you using?

[agile axle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/7

[nocturne smelt]

I use the same one. Hmm.

How do you normally activate it? L, Middle mouse, Or radial menu?

I would check to make sure your keybinds didn't reset.

Also I would see if you can activate it through the radial menu. Hold Tab and press E.

[agile axle]

with everything it doesn't work

[nocturne smelt]

You may need to reload some earlier saves and see if it starts working.

Something is corrupt.

[agile axle]

another hour of gameplay lost

[nocturne smelt]

Did an earlier save work?

[drowsy umbra]

skeefa, itsa peak

[west moth]

Such is a life in the zone

[remote eagle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1351304623406714971/SKEEFA.gif?ex=67ebb040&is=67ea5ec0&hm=34eb97bd1677ae1a2cffe92b9e161b0357a4be7f257697789afbaf3a276ae8b8&

[deep hedge]

How do I fix input lag in this shi

[tacit glacier]

You cant

Welcome to the age of ue5 where every game has like 50 different processes till rendered image is completed and the dumbest ones take more than 5 miliseconds to finish

[odd fjord]

gain fps (ue5 hard mode)

[split crown]

SKEEFA IT'S ALL CRACK COCAINE

[agile axle]

yeah

[deep hedge]

It is such a shame too, the gunplay feels so fluid except for this input lag

[tacit glacier]

bruh

[nocturne smelt]

Useful info isn't it?

[split crown]

lmao

inb4 they just simply don't know how to fine-tune the AI so they only loot what they kill instead of looting anything that's simply dead near them

[nocturne smelt]

They need to stop trying to fix things and put their full effort into getting the SDK out.

Everytime they fix something it's the same or worse. Or it breaks something else.

[icy basin]

STALKERs when other STAKERs steal their shit:

[wary rune]

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1jkk33w/when_you_are_a_rogue_in_your_soul_and_by_nature/

[remote eagle]

[warped monolith]

damn this chat got active

[proud ruin]

[west moth]

[rotund escarp]

so i want to purchase stalker 2 but im using a acer nitro 5 with 3060 ti graphics card, would the game run well enough to be playable? i want to have a idea of what fps will be before i spend 60$

i dont care what the settings will be i just want to play

[wary rune]

It should run kinda well but you'll reach high temperatures really fast

[rotund escarp]

i got custom cooling on my labtop so that wont be a problem

[wary rune]

Had that laptop before. Real shame it's so fragile

[rotund escarp]

so is it worth a shot you would say? or should i stick to gamma until a good fps patch comes out

[wary rune]

I'd stick to Gamma. Stalker 2 is fun but you NEED frame generation

[rotund escarp]

ah ok, so i should wait i assume

[wary rune]

At least until game gets optimized

[rotund escarp]

alright, thanks for the help lol

[wary rune]

Also, !noalife

Damn, I fucked up xD

[peak eagle]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[agile axle]

okay I'm done with it, finished it and yeah, ||they still kept the bad shooting gallery with the monolith soldiers||

my fault for doing the ||Project Y ending with the two bad bossfights|||

[proud ruin]

It wouldn’t be stalker without a bad ending section

[sleek axle]

Guys, what items can I get from Aslan for the stripes?

[warped monolith]

Aslan? The Narnia lion?

https://tenor.com/view/narnia-aslan-lion-nod-gif-21114281

[sleek axle]

No, a mercenary in a dead city

Oh, I'm writing in the wrong place.

sorry

[warped monolith]

np

[peak eagle]

||Granite Squad was aids||

[agile axle]

||I just ran||

Now it's time to restart and use mods

[broken current]

what order should i beat all games? played S2 for like 20 hours but it needs some more cooking, is gamma a good starting point to the plot?

[agile axle]

play SoC

[nocturne smelt]

Anomaly/Gamma are their own thing. They are not part of the story.

Shadow of Chernobyl, Clear sky, And Call of Pripyat. Is the release order.

If you want canonical it would be Clear sky, Shadow of Chernobyl, then Call of Pripyat.

[broken current]

ok, wrong wording from me, im fiending a game about zone that is fun to play and has some plot

[nocturne smelt]

Well the original trilogy is more linear story with some side content.

[broken current]

felt like every s2 character is ai slop with no way to like any of them

[nocturne smelt]

Anomoly/Gamma is sandbox go do what you want type games.

[wary rune]

Two?

[agile axle]

||Strelok ans Scar||

[wary rune]

||For Strelok I just camp the corner in the room behind the console. Dude teleports, gets headshot, teleports away, rinse and repeat.||
||For Scar ... It's absurdly easy. Wait for the dude to approach you, use TV, shoot him once or twice with Rhino, repeat.||
||I thought you'd say Korshunov because of his meme-y weakspot||

And no, I'm not proud of the first spoiler but I won't be bothered by the damn anomalies everywhere

[placid moat]

Not at 60 but I am hitting 50-55 with frame gen on (35-40 in populated areas

Its playable and doesnt look that bad if you can manage the input lag and install an optimized engine.ini file

[wary rune]

Is stealth broken again? I am literally shooting dudes with shotgun and not a single enemy reacts because I oneshot dudes

Like ... bros, it's a shotgun. Not silenced makarov

[warped monolith]

I"ve never been able to engage in stealth in any stalker game, even with mods that somehow improve stealth

[wary rune]

Also, I've killed at least 5 "Pvt. Hlebovsky"s in the same base

[warped monolith]

congrats you just murdered an entire family of brothers

reminds me of Saving Private Ryan weren't they like 4 or 5 brothers

[plucky onyx]

Again? Always has been.jpg

[wind arrow]

You monster you just murdered an entire family

[wary rune]

This is getting ridiculous. Take note of the first screenshot

Might as well send their mother at me

[plucky onyx]

Mod tools when

[molten orchid]

Roadmap when

[plucky onyx]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[plucky onyx]

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1j8o9ba/stalker_2_devs_say_roadmap_is_coming_soon_more/

Also, source?

[warped monolith]

they also said the game had a life

[plucky onyx]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[plucky onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/blackjack-bender-futurama-hookers-gif-25729729

Fuck it Im gonna go make my own stalker

[proud ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/source-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-gif-2184767763330592857

[west moth]

Roadmap picnic: A life in the zone
Coming soon to a bluescreen near you

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/sseth-gif-27687542

[plucky onyx]

Promised road map like a life. The game has not a roadmap

[warped monolith]

the roadmap has not a life

[hushed gull]

hey

hows the state of modding for this game? i put it aside for a while waiting for updates and mods

are there any proper AI/A-life mods that dont fully ruin performance?

[nocturne smelt]

There are quite a few good mods out. Performance is a hard one to say since it's specific to your hardware setup.

Shay's living zone or Found a way are both good Alife mods. They both handle it differently.

[hushed gull]

ive tried shays living zone long ago. i even have my video on his modpage lol

the iteration i tried was cool but way too chaotic

it was pretty early on tho so maybe he updated it quite a bit

DAMN

yeah this got updated A LOT

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah, He's been working on it like crazy lately.

[plucky onyx]

You could say the mod has a life

[rustic ermine]

[golden hazel]

Shay-Life

[uneven stump]

have they fixed the ai life yet?

[plucky onyx]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[plucky onyx]

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1jo40sc/stalker_2_studio_hiring_skyrockets_after_release/

[plucky onyx]

okay I give up, dont think I can play this anymore

[warped monolith]

those look like cool filters for screenshots

[warped monolith]

gotta hire people to fix the game and implement a-life

[plucky onyx]

but then I wont be able to use has not a life anymore

which is worse honestly

can I ever just play this fucking game for once

[split crown]

How does this happen lmao

[plucky onyx]

I seriously wish I knew, just happened all of a sudden now everytime I play the game. No new mods or anything

[split crown]

[lime umbra]

could just be windows defender being retarded

wouldnt be the first time either

[plucky onyx]

true for sure but idk oddly sus, havent really looked into it just yet

well it's better than it was before

[split crown]

working as intended

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-howard-nodding-gif-13246550

[midnight ridge]

We are in Q2 and still no roadmap

[tacit glacier]

Black Screen now

[proud ruin]

Stalker 2 confirmed bitcoin miner

[plucky onyx]

The game has not a roadmap

[golden hazel]

Best we can do is stolen copper wire

https://tenor.com/view/a-good-man-is-always-on-time-for-lunch-scar-stalker-stalker-2-heart-of-chornobyl-gif-4287650230625124157

[plucky onyx]

Catalytic converters

Addicted to psi blockers

And meth

[plucky onyx]

Hey that’s the same guy who stole my bike

[golden hazel]

It's not "stolen" just reassigned to become coupons for more meth

[plucky onyx]

How else is he going to keep seeing the shining zone

[golden hazel]

[plucky onyx]

Where’s all the usual late night shit posting

How am I supposed to fall asleep

[golden hazel]

The shitposting has not a life

https://tenor.com/view/looking-at-distance-strelok-stalker-stalker-2-heart-of-chornobyl-gif-9607769205614768453

[split crown]

I can't sleep

[golden hazel]

Same and I gotta go to work in 4 hours

[split crown]

Headache goes brrrrrrrrrrrr

[plucky onyx]

Try drugs, for work I mean

[plucky onyx]

Did have an ocular migraine today, didnt know what that was. All of a sudden started seeing bright streaks of light flash across

[golden hazel]

That's the way the Ward gets you to join its ranks, they start invading your eyes and making you see things, SKEEFA

[split crown]

[plucky onyx]

I fkn wish I was a c con agent, then Id have no responsibilities

[golden hazel]

Nah, cause then you'd have to be like "welp shit I gotta go kill the Strelok" and then he appears out of a portal and drops a grenade on you

[plucky onyx]

Who’s this strelok fellow everyone keeps mentioning

[golden hazel]

[proud ruin]

Soylok

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/топдрузябандо-бабаджоба-сталкер-сталкер2-стрелок-сталкер-gif-8086819743968637215

SKEEFA WTF OLD MAN MUST DIE MY GF IS NOT SAFE SKEEFA

[proud ruin]

It’s over strelok, I have already won; for I have portrayed you as the soyjak and myself as the chad

That should of been the Skif ending

[proud ruin]

Noooo skeeefa you must kill old man!!!!!!1!1!1!1

[west moth]

Guys i just received an email from an old friend of mine in the gaming industry and he said the next stalker 2 update will include A-life, night vision, moar quests in the second half of the game and multiplayer but they will make the game subscription based, consoles will not be supported anymore and you will have to upgrade to Windows 11. Happy April fools, stalkers

[prisma fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-bird-sad-gif-21136900

[eager solstice]

Cannot translate to the same language

[dusty raven]

freedomers will sell you limited edition fent behind the rookie village

[proud ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-the-boys-yummers-gif-730693117818784194

[midnight ridge]

[vocal seal]

Did yall enjoy stalker 2?

[icy basin]

Ye

[midnight ridge]

Yes, like my first diarrhea

[icy basin]

Oh hey we get to enact the 3 day mute

[remote eagle]

[vocal seal]

Lol m kidding

[icy basin]

[vocal seal]

Beside i can only play roblox coz i need new pc

[remote eagle]

[vocal seal]

And league ya know what time to climb up to bronze again

[icy basin]

🤢

[remote eagle]

[icy basin]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-clean-wash-you-hands-hand-sanitizer-gif-16752599

[vocal seal]

Why yall hate league

[remote eagle]

played 5 years with friends

Garbage game

if it werent for them i never fucking touch that stinky poop

[vocal seal]

I cant quit like anomaly it reels me back in

Btw why was no one made a new weapon addon yet for stalker 2

[split crown]

modding is limited due to the full modkit not being available yet; however, once GSC does release that kit, I'd imagine people will start modding all sorts of weaponry and whatnot into Sdalger 2.

Kinda wild how limited the game is by default in terms of how many different guns you can find in the zone.

[icy basin]

Dubstep gun STALKER 2

[split crown]

Can't wait for someone to mod in the Borderlands gun that never shuts the fuck up while you shoot it

Tho this time it just yells Bandit voice lines

[remote eagle]

[vocal seal]

Lemme guess the
https://youtu.be/nVxbnvqANes?si=qSXO9TvtA9TTg9Lq

[remote eagle]

better make SKEEFA GUN

[split crown]

wtf did it make you move at a snail's pace too; I don't remember that

[remote eagle]

which gonna shoot copper wires at enemy

[vocal seal]

At first i thoguht its the right sizing btch but it doesnt scream

[remote eagle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1351304623406714971/SKEEFA.gif?ex=67ed01c0&is=67ebb040&hm=3f23a6ac93240a54aaae3f0b54c2f81a97d22f12bb8c297dca03fdb19ee17be9&

[split crown]

erm ackshually, it turns your enemies into strings of copper wiring when you kill them

[vocal seal]

It makes u move slower than ever

Would you believe me i ended the main mission maining that gun coz im bored

[split crown]

sounds like suffering

[vocal seal]

Btw who vtuber is that

[split crown]

the sticker?

[vocal seal]

Ur pfp

[split crown]

Muu Muyu

[vocal seal]

U have no idea how painful to main zero with that

[split crown]

[vocal seal]

Ya know what ill take on that challenge and make the incinerator

Or the chopper

[remote eagle]

[split crown]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker-shadow-of-chernobyl-shadow-of-chernobyl-chornobyl-itstommylove-gif-14403985658201438399

[remote eagle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/pMJ3_aA3SMY

[nocturne smelt]

This is what GSC chooses to spend their time doing.

[split crown]

is this meant to be their April Fool's joke lol

[nocturne smelt]

It's the one item on their roadmap. Give mutants guns.

[icy basin]

Imagine allowing a separate team responsible for community relations to exist

Whom have no relation to development of the game besides maybe communicating patch contents to the community

[remote eagle]

shitpost team?

[drowsy umbra]

that youtube short has a better story than the sparks arc

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1351304623406714971/SKEEFA.gif

[nocturne smelt]

A separate team who's communication method is don't say anything and avoid every question. I guess they do have time to make a YouTube short.

[icy basin]

[split crown]

[timid oyster]

Spark is meh. Ward is ok. Noontide is the real shit

[nocturne smelt]

Would like more content around Noontide.

[drowsy umbra]

welp, they are monolith 😄

[timid oyster]

In my opinion, its the only faction that really fits into the OG ones

[drowsy umbra]

the main game is basically them becoming monolith again

[timid oyster]

Its what monolith was in the beginning. A normal cult that helps others

[drowsy umbra]

monolith was at the beginning the fanatic defenders of the wish granter

[timid oyster]

They wanted to go north to see it, and they came back as blood thirsty motherfuckers.

[nocturne smelt]

They were a normal faction that believed the monolith was a deity.

[proud ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[drowsy umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-mahiro-oyama-mahiro-onimai-oniichan-wa-oshimai-gif-17868971668136462410

[remote eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-cinema-neqsil-neqsil-gif-tokidoki-bosotto-russia-go-de-dereru-tonari-no-alya-san-gif-7194922688176180121

[warped monolith]

[west moth]

https://tenor.com/view/сталкер-stalker-андрей-тарковский-andrei-tarkovsky-пикник-на-обочине-gif-6253124855828740641

[deep robin]

Does anyone know if it's possible to disable just closed captions in STALKER2? I like to have the original Ukrainian language, and I need subtitles for that, but I don't need to have subtitles notifying me whenever I kill an NPC.

Is it possible to disable subtitles for events like that?

[midnight ridge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hfCDtiiK3I

[wary rune]

Should've released a post titled "A-Life improvement update"

[warped monolith]

yeah I'm sure every single one of GSC staff, including all the programmers and even the cleaning lady, put everything on hold to make this animation

[remote eagle]

[wary rune]

Yeah all-fuckn-right Ward. So they let me into the Chemical Plant. I ran around, saved the game, quit. After I loaded in every single Ward dude was hostile 🙂 Damn traitors

[plucky onyx]

CLASSIC STALKER 2 ROOKIE MISTAKE

chem plant is such a design mess. Yeah pretty sure everybody who has played the game thought they could go in chem plant

[wary rune]

I mean, they hit me once so I wiped the spot where you first meet Korshunov. Kinda funny how doing stuff like that or gameplay choices have no impact on the game besides like three options near the end

[plucky onyx]

well apparently they cut over 70 quests and 1/3 of the main story so...

[wary rune]

W-what?

[remote eagle]

as they cut most of SoC content too lmao

nothing new

[west moth]

The "A" in "A-Life" stands for "Aprils Fools"

[wary rune]

I didn't think they cut THAT much stuff. Game still seems pretty fine storywise though I miss doing quests for Duty/Freedom (ok, only Duty)

[proud ruin]

based GSC never change

[warped monolith]

source

[west moth]

source

[midnight ridge]

Previous games

[west moth]

confused stalker noises

[proud ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[warped monolith]

[delicate bison]

man, this game is still fucked. And I don't think mods can unfuck it

[nocturne smelt]

It's definitely going to take some work from the developer. Mods can only do so much.

[delicate bison]

performance still shit, crashes, sound bugs, rendering issues. Even with a bunch of mods there's still problems like grenade spam and pinpoint accuracy

[plucky onyx]

have you tried turning it off and on again

[delicate bison]

dunno how people play with difficulty mods when the game itself is so... frustrating

[plucky onyx]

yeah uninstalled modular hard mode because of that

base game is the problem really

[delicate bison]

I just gave it a try, it's just not fun. And yes yes, "git gud" and all that. I don't conflate difficulty with frustration and tedium, sadly

[plucky onyx]

keep trying to play and run into the stupidest shit and alt f4 and say why the fuck am I still bothering with this crap

[delicate bison]

if you die in 2 bullets but NPCs take half a clip, instantly know where you are, have top tier accuracy and can land grenades with higher accuracy then in Worms (grenades you can't hear btw), it's not exactly dark souls

oh and stealth is still completely unusable

[plucky onyx]

npc ai should be like metro's, and damage system. You die from about the same as they die

obv difference between linear and open world with not a life

[delicate bison]

I'm just going to play GAMMA instead

also, I'm not sure what it is. But gunplay in S2 feels... off

[plucky onyx]

gamma is cool and all but I just can't deal with the small old stalker maps

[delicate bison]

like it's harder to be accurate, I'm not sure why

maybe a mixture of input lag and higher weapon recoil or smth

[plucky onyx]

dont really remember how the bullets worked in gamme, but S2 has a ballistic system so there is a time of flight and arc

[delicate bison]

it's not that, it's more of being able to keep your crosshair/iron sights on whatever/whomever you're shooting

[plucky onyx]

yeah I've kind of noticed that, aim right at someone and just not hitting sometimes, which I guess is kind of accurate tbh

[delicate bison]

and for some reason, in S2 I struggle with this. Not to the point where this is the cause of frustration (compared to everything else, lol), but I'm notably worse at just shooting things

[plucky onyx]

well yeah, as val for me. Cool gun but the huge ass 9x39 is so slow with a huge arc its fucking hard to hit anything with it

[warped monolith]

I will not tolerate AS Val slander in this chat

[delicate bison]

AS Val? You mean hand-held trebuchet?

[plucky onyx]

and the damage system in the game is all wonky too, like the 416 rifle where you just have to mag dump after mag dump to kill anything

[delicate bison]

man, bullet sponge is just beyond riculous, even with that hard mode mod

[plucky onyx]

honestly a lot newer slav guns they could have added to the game.... not sure why they added that fugly israeli rifle

[delicate bison]

I thought we figured this out 20 years ago that this absolutely sucks in a game

[plucky onyx]

yeah feels like fuckin halo or some shit

[warped monolith]

hard mode cheat you mean

[plucky onyx]

sr-3 vikhr would've been neat or 9a-91, tons of options but we mostly got the old stalker guns, which fine keep those too but a lot more variety is always fun. Once mod tools (if) get released I guess that solves that

[delicate bison]

there's a whole game to unfuck first, ffs man. It's been a while since I've been this annoyed at a game

[plucky onyx]

but guns and equipment are whatever if the combat, a life, and all the other things are broken and empty

[plucky onyx]

exactly

[nocturne smelt]

The problem is they tied the damage stat to the weapon itself to give the weapons a progression feeling. Instead of tying it to the round used.

[warped monolith]

I wonder why they would do this

[nocturne smelt]

I assume your talking about Modular Hard Mode? Most of the bullet sponginess goes away when using better ammo, You definitely start from a very weak place,

[nocturne smelt]

Please, Explain if you know.

[delicate bison]

the curve doesn't really matter if you start below 0 on it imo. Dunno why starting like having to pump 2 pistol mags in a dog to kill it is considered "difficult", it's tedious

[warped monolith]

because it's a videogame, and making tiered progressive weapons is basic videogame logic
this isn't gamma or some ultra realistic milsurp cbt

[delicate bison]

in GAMMA, hobo mode is fun. With shit gear you can still do a lot, you just have to be a bit clever. In S2+MHM, you have to run away or avoid content. Not what I'm looking for

[warped monolith]

ppl still seem to forget this is a sequel to Call of Pripyat, not a sequel to GAMMA

[delicate bison]

I'm well aware, I've even played CoP again recently

[warped monolith]

plays veteran mode
"game is hard"
mods the difficulty out of it instead of playing normal difficulty

[remote eagle]

[delicate bison]

bro, everyone has a different definition of difficult

[remote eagle]

[warped monolith]

spongy aimbotting enemies sucks, but complaining about different weapons doing different amounts of damage is just silly

[nocturne smelt]

I understand this, And I'm not comparing it to GAMMA merely stating why certain weapons feel weak compared to others.

[warped monolith]

and after playing enough Blood or even vanilla SoC, I'm kinda used to spongy aimbotting enemies

let me at 'em

[delicate bison]

good that my main problem is spongy aimbotting enemies then. And dying a whole bunch to things that seem out of my control. Like inaudible pinpoint grenades

it's almost like playing Worms again

[nocturne smelt]

There are mods for everyone to do what they want with the game, Which means potentially more sales and less returns. It's why more companies have started to have official mod support.

That being said, I've always recommended playing any game the vanilla way to experience the developers vision.

Minus performance changes to make them playable in the first place.

[warped monolith]

ironically enough one of the first mods ever released for Stalker 2 was made by Grok and it reduced mutants' health by something around 80%
Essentially, cheating.

People want to play Veteran difficulty but don't want to have to deal with Veteran difficulty. So instead of selecting Stalker (or Tourist), they mod the difficulty out.

[delicate bison]

none of the in-game difficulties matter in ways that a lot of people want, though

[warped monolith]

yes, but people still have egos too big to just play at a lower difficulty, which would solve most if not all of their problems

[delicate bison]

bro, this is just flat-out untrue

[warped monolith]

it straight up fixes the enemies' aimbotting and spongy health pools

which is the #1 complaint everyone has in the gameplay department

[nocturne smelt]

If I remember correctly, And correct me if I'm wrong. But wasn't one of the biggest complaints at launch that the difficulties didn't change enough when it came to combat difficulty?

[warped monolith]

people datamined the files and found out exactly what each difficulty affects. Veteran gives enemies a substantial boost in their health, the damage they do and the damage Skif receives (so it's doubly "effective")
It used to be pinned here. Or maybe it's pinned in stalker 2 media

apparently it's not pinned anywhere anymore

[nocturne smelt]

Ah, I never saw the breakdown. I played through release on vet with only the s2 optimization mod. I found it to be the same as the previous games. If you don't have the correct stuff you get massacred. If you do, Your basically a tank with legs.

I think your correct where a lot of people have the expectations of anomaly/Gamma going into S2 only to be disappointed.

[warped monolith]

devs themselves had to make it very clear in the Steam forums that Stalker 2 is not a sequel to Gamma

[plucky onyx]

Wouldn’t a better system just be enemies with better armor are tougher

[warped monolith]

then how would you overcome their extra toughness if all your guns did the same damage?
You'd be progressively performing worse and worse

[remote eagle]

no it wont mister game manager

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah, I think the time between games worked against them. More people have probably played anomaly/gamma at this point because it's more modernized.

[delicate bison]

people didn't need a sequel to GAMMA, but they did need a working sequel lol

we got neither thus far

[nocturne smelt]

In order to make that work you would have to tie the damage and armor pen to the ammo and restrict availability.

[warped monolith]

they sure expected one though

[remote eagle]

its working as fine sequel to og trilogy stop talking shit

[warped monolith]

this chat was a steamy hot mess when the game came out with the amount of "gamma is better" comments

[delicate bison]

anecdotal, but 6 crashes in less than 2 hours is not fine lol

[plucky onyx]

Well you would have ideally better armor, better upgrades for weapons, better consumables like scientific med kits, etc. Even better weapons are still possible in that system

[remote eagle]

lmao i didnt get any crushes playing stalker 2

[nocturne smelt]

To be fair, This is the Gamma discord. Your going to get mostly people who have played gamma no?

[plucky onyx]

Higher skill enemies too, exosuit type enemies have higher accuracy or are maybe just more aggressive given they have good armor

[nocturne smelt]

Not saying it's a good opinion to have but There be a lot of gamma players here.

[remote eagle]

and what

[plucky onyx]

Name one

[nocturne smelt]

Name one what?

[plucky onyx]

Name one gamma player, see you cant do it. Argument invalid

[nocturne smelt]

Me?

[warped monolith]

Yes, but does that automatically mean people should be expecting Stalker 2 to be Gamma 2?

[plucky onyx]

Oh yeah? Prove it, see you cant

[remote eagle]

gamma about crafting surviving(not really lmao about surviving) more about murdering anyone with good loot
stalker 2 more about main story and exploring the zone(HOW IT WAS IN CoP and SoC ITS FUCKING EXPLORING) NOT FUCKING SURVIVING

[nocturne smelt]

No of course not, That's why I said it's not a good opinion to have. Just that a lot of people in this discord are going to be gamma players and through volume your going to see that want more.

[plucky onyx]

I just want mod tools for more mods and some of the basic problems with the game fixed

[warped monolith]

only issue I truly had with the game has been fixed already, so I'll hop back in once I finish the stuff I'm playing now

[nocturne smelt]

Which issue was that?

[warped monolith]

weapons being swapped into and out of the inventory

game stole 2 of my guns and replaced them with <10% condition crap that I didn't even have ammo for

[remote eagle]

yeah i remember getting infinite svds

[nocturne smelt]

Omg, That was the most ridiculous bug ever lol. And it would happen at certain triggers, So if you walked over it multiple times it would just keep duplicating weapons.

[remote eagle]

fkn wishgranter

[warped monolith]

Problem is, while most people had guns added to their inventory, the game replaced my guns with useless shit

[nocturne smelt]

Yeah, That's wild. It would swap the weapons in my hands but the ones I was using would be in my inventory.