╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[devout locust]

Maklanes better zone? That fixes a lot of stuff

[finite needle]

And this is why I need a bit more cruble quests that aren't go kill 20 rats or get this stash.

Stashes aren't that appealing after a while unless they're named

[devout locust]

it fixes aimbot npcs

[finite needle]

Hell they aren't that appealing in GAMMA after a certain point, and GAMMA is all about scavenging shit.

[devout locust]

oh ur talking about gamma nvm

[finite needle]

Stalker 2 and GAMMA have the same issue with NPCs shooting you with great precision in situations where they really shouldn't.

Difference in this case is that Stalker 2 has mosquito damage to help mitigate the aimbot, GAMMA just oneshots you because Renegades in the swamp can see through foliage and can have an SVU.

[golden hazel]

Also Stalker 2 you can just medkit spam

Higher tier medkits you just basically turn on godmode

[finite needle]

neither is good, but Stalker 2 is more an annoyance and doesn't have the potential to kill an ironman run, for example.

Stalker 2 however changes the gunfights into yeah this is gonna cost a lot of koupons (it's all a Freedom plot to make more money)

[devout locust]

Maklane fixes that too

[finite needle]

The difference is kinda in perception, in GAMMA you get called with a bad case of skill issue, in Stalker 2 is garbage AI. I wonder which one it is.

[golden hazel]

Stalker 2 ai is definitely garbage

[finite needle]

Oh, absolutely. My point is that the AI in gamma is also very bad

Me rushing to kill the Duty soldier in Army Warehouse befure he alife's me (he's gonna stay in Rostok for the next 6 weeks)

Mutants getting into bunkers, AI getting stuck, followers being unable to actually navigate anything that isn't an overworld map or anomalies etc. At least they're big fun in a fight, which they have over Stalker 2.

[golden hazel]

Honestly I wonder who'd win in a fight, SoC of Chernobyl unpatched AI or HoC Tuah

[finite needle]

You give too much credit to unpatched SoC my man

[golden hazel]

My guess is this would happen

[proper olive]

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK QUALTY IS THAT ON OMFG I WANT IT

[finite needle]

Zalissya moment

[golden hazel]

Somehow, Hamster died

[finite needle]

How many military suits are there in the world? It's the second I find in literally 20 minutes.

[golden hazel]

Imagine all your spawns bugged out and replaced them all with military suits

[finite needle]

LucasArts adventure game in the 90s ass looking lighting there

[golden hazel]

[finite needle]

Oh you don't have a super computer? Too bad you're getting pixels

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/crank-dat-soulja-boy-sponge-gif-27284857

[split crown]

[golden hazel]

Are ya memory leakin, son?

[split crown]

the funniest part about it happening in Gamma is usually it's a Toz with 2% durability and red parts

[golden hazel]

The toz that detonates after attempting to fire 1 round

[split crown]

well yes, but that emote was more-so in response to the pixelated lighting which GSC seems to think looks good

[golden hazel]

[split crown]

you see ivan, you must throw the Toz after firing one round at enemy before it explodes in hands

[golden hazel]

[split crown]

[storm echo]

trying to play this game is mental pain

[split crown]

just dumb yourself down so it's not as painful

[golden hazel]

[proper olive]

Oh no no no silly kitty cat, i have a RTX 4080 my ex gave it to me csuse he felt bad for how our relationship ended :P

[golden hazel]

SKEEFA STOP THINKING AND COME HERE, I FOUND A CAR WITH COPPER WIRES WAITING TO BE HARVESTED

[split crown]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[split crown]

SKEEFA WE MUST HARVEST ALL THE WIRING IN THE WISH GRANTER BEFORE SIRCAA DOES

[golden hazel]

FOR THE SHINING ZONE SKEEFA

[jovial berry]

man this chat is awful

so much hate for the game

[split crown]

hate=/=criticizing and/or shitposting

I've got almost 300 hours in-game and am still playing it.

[golden hazel]

Damn how could we be so hateful for not giving sergey the sloppy toppy in everything we say

[split crown]

As I've written a number of times previously, I only want Stalker 2 to get better with each patch.

[golden hazel]

I wish I figured out how to use the guitar before I stopped being able to run the game

Would've been nice to have played wonderwall on it

Today is gonna be the day that the Sidorovich's pay is due

[jovial berry]

youre right, i also criticize the game an wish it was doing things better. But i also see the same shitpost meme here every time i peek

[golden hazel]

Blame Josta, he created it

[split crown]

2 ways to play it (after phyiscally picking it up in Hamster's back-room - where your storage chest and the bed are): go into the quick-select menu, press G, and Skeefa will sit down and pull it out. Or, you can sit at a campfire or any other similar spot with an "interact" seat, press G, and you pull out the Geetar

[split crown]

People prefer to make light of things through comedy, eh

I'd rather be laughing than crying over something

[golden hazel]

I'll keep this in mind when my game can finally launch again in a year

[split crown]

lmao

[jovial berry]

Yeah sure, i also agree with that sentiment

noalife is a funni meme but also something that hurts deeply

[split crown]

yeah

[golden hazel]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[odd jacinth]

HOW

[split crown]

I think there's a mod on the nexus that makes it 4 buttons instead of 2

[jovial berry]

it cant hold a candle to the alife from og games, man that stuff was peak

[golden hazel]

SoC alife was meh

[split crown]

Aye, I loved the type of euro jank that one could experience in the OG games.

but now... everything is just a memory leak in Stalker 2

[jovial berry]

was still better than s2 spawn system

[golden hazel]

Well when you compare it to s2 it was peak

I mean within the 3 ogs

[odd jacinth]

CoP has the best by far

[golden hazel]

CS had the most "fun" alife

[jovial berry]

But anyways were getting there, i feel like even as a Stalker game, S2 does things very well

the map, environment and atmosphere is still top knotch

[golden hazel]

When standing still, the game looks great

[split crown]

forgot to post this screen shot

[golden hazel]

And also not looking outside from the inside because genuinely FUCK eye adapation

[split crown]

I wonder if they'll even be able to fix that at all

[jovial berry]

yeah i have it on the pipeline to fix that shit, but itll be very hard

[split crown]

That would be tremendous

[jovial berry]

its possible, issue is making it work for most people

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-unmatched-power-of-the-sun-sun-power-cop-gif-22776276

[jovial berry]

since brightness, gamma, hdr, etc etc is hard

[golden hazel]

From what I remember another modder said it was baked into Lumen

[jovial berry]

it all goes back to the overly zealous eye adaptation in UE5

[odd jacinth]

I just cant make myself wait 20 minutes for compiling again

[jovial berry]

GSC tried to fix this for inside locations, which in turn fucks up looking towards the outside from inside

[jovial berry]

its baked into UE lighting system yes, but GSC has some hacky approach for inside buildings

[golden hazel]

Funny system

[sinful escarp]

How what? the message cant be loaded apparently

[split crown]

he was asking how to set the 2 keys to 4

[jovial berry]

here was when i was testing it much earlier. This is without GSC eye adaptation compensation thingy

[sinful escarp]

go to stalker2 local appdata and change the binds in there

[finite needle]

The GSC eye compensation thingy is a tad too extreme

[sinful escarp]

controlsconfig or something

[jovial berry]

with it enabled

thing is that it makes the insides look better, but then the outside through windows looks blowned to bits

idk i just have to sit down one day and test it

[golden hazel]

[jovial berry]

worse thing is that they have a compensation curve for every inside location

not every but most

[finite needle]

Imagine bricking your entire save because the NPCs wouldn't move into position

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[finite needle]

My approach to a life to this day is careful what you wish for, if they can't make Zalissya right I wouldn't want them to start adding complex NCP behavior in ALL of the game

[sinful escarp]

Where thefuq is it? my detector is on constant, no beep even

[jovial berry]

21 inside exposure compentation curves, plus SIRCAA which is in another folder for some reason

[finite needle]

Ah yes, best detector artifact hunting. Who knows, just run around and eventually you'll catch it, shit move.s

[sinful escarp]

anywhere I move it stops contant light and slows down, it's on me apparently

got it

[golden hazel]

Worst case scenario it's under the map

[sinful escarp]

I have to loook around until my mouse was over it

[jovial berry]

just quick save and reload

[split crown]

Yeah idk if it's with the recent major patch update or what, but GSC seems to have made the artefacts even more damn annoying when artefact hunting; they jump around WAYYYYY more right as you detect them, so you literally have to grab 'em as they're jumping around.

[jovial berry]

i honestly liked this change so much, but it is overtuned

getting artefacts was a cake walk before

[golden hazel]

They must've added alife to the artifacts

[split crown]

[finite needle]

Pros: Light moves with the passing of the day Cons: looks like this.

[split crown]

Yeah, some difficulty is fine, but they def overtuned it imo

[split crown]

you tellin' me you don't like your lighting lookin' like the static on a television?

[golden hazel]

Light looks like the radiation effect from gamma

[jovial berry]

i think Ultra+ improves this a bunch, right?

ive been also playing around with Volumetrics for the weather mod

[finite needle]

idk I don't think I can run ultra+, I'm just a working class goober

[jovial berry]

it runs well on most system, can fine tune. but i do have a 4070 and 13700

[golden hazel]

And here is a sample of my memory leak getting turned up to 10

[finite needle]

But I'm running it on high and I don't think it should look like it's been sprayed on ms paing

[jovial berry]

did you get DLSS override?

for running the new transformer model ?

[finite needle]

I have a 2070s and a i5 10600k, it's as mid as it can get.

[golden hazel]

That's low end on HoC tuah my 2060 can't even start the game anymore

[finite needle]

The zone just heard me talk shit and straight up blasted me from the heavens with a lightning bolt

[golden hazel]

Do not fail the vibe check again, for the shining zone SKEEFA

[sinful escarp]

Iam happy with 0 grass if that's an option, just 2D ground

[golden hazel]

Ah yes, Oblivion Lost graphics

[finite needle]

Nice

Isn't the Integral A a bit too powerful?

[golden hazel]

The blender gun that turns enemies into a fine puree

[sinful escarp]

Is the the whole mainland/island thing just a colloquial thing?

[golden hazel]

[finite needle]

I have so much 5.45 ammo but the base AK sucks, imma go grab the 5.45 Groza or maybe the Kharod in Cooling Plants

but then again the Integral is kinda shredding

[split crown]

Game froze, guess that means it's a good time for bed

[golden hazel]

Eepy

[finite needle]

I appreciate that the bloodsucker roaming below the cement factory was already dead by the time I went to grab the extended Integral magazine

There is a guide on how to get a bear detector that literally tells you go buy one from Duty lmao

[golden hazel]

JOIN DEUTY WE HAVE A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY, TO DISTRIBUTE BEARS TO DA ZONE

[finite needle]

well it's only 5k, but honestly you get one for free for heping Noontide not too much later so idk why I would do that

Time to go to the cement factory proper and get the SPAS I suppose

[sinful escarp]

7 hour save, thoughts?

[finite needle]

Me after 4 hours

[sinful escarp]

ok bro

[finite needle]

[sinful escarp]

Shouldn't have come here for validation huh

[finite needle]

It's fine, you have a SVD fully repaired and it's gonna help you lots more than the AK in actual fights

[sinful escarp]

No ammo.. actually maybe thr trader has some

bro restocks alot

[golden hazel]

Just stab people and you wont have to buy ammo

[sinful escarp]

sorry what does that do?

[finite needle]

For everyday bandits you're better off with a SMG, the Spitfire/Buket is good enough if you plan on using the UDP as your gun

Stabbing people to death is ammo efficient

[golden hazel]

[sinful escarp]

idk i'll head shot with pp for now

[finite needle]

Now unless you're playing Final Fantasy VIII or a Gunbreaker in FFXIV, your blade won't use ammo

[sinful escarp]

Or RE4, god knives in that suck??

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/resident_evil_4-inventory-eggs-leon-s-kennedy-briefcase-gif-26327693

[sinful escarp]

Oh my god making a trade resets my inventory?

[golden hazel]

[finite needle]

Now I can go to Yantar and get the sprite seva

The M860 with the magazine feed is nice and all but I'd rather transform whatever is opposing me into ground meat before I have to reload

ngl I ended up liking Duty more than Freedom in Stalker 2. Might be that they're the underdog this time idk.

Duty tech can even fix mid tier weapons and upgrade armors, what's not to love?

[sinful escarp]

Is all the weapons in garbage still low tier? can't wait for even more

[finite needle]

Garbage yes, but you can go to cement factory for a lot of decent early game gear

[peak eagle]

Well at least you're not gated by most locations anyway if you want better loot early

[finite needle]

I recommend exploring Cement Factory thoroughly. There's some neat stuff, but also Rostok has some easy upgrades ot be found around.

and it's very close, almost natural connection with Garbage anyway

[peak eagle]

cooling towers has some good gear as well

[finite needle]

Also that, yes. There's something like the special AS Lavina in Chemical Plant, but you kinda need to know where to look while I find exploring and finding cool shit in cement factory to be more organic, and the prizes are usually very worth the time considering you can go there the instant you reach Garbage

||I also think that a early game Kharod, while not that easy to get, is too much power creep. The Groza is acceptable as it's kinda slightly superior to the FORA221, but looks like ass.||

Also I think you can get an early Fora 221 and a decent condition SVD in Rostok, plus a Groza mag extender and all the AK 74 your can carry

[peak eagle]

also an Integral-A near duty base too

[sinful escarp]

Who the fuck is the trader here

[finite needle]

Cement Factory has: Integral-A, ammo capacity upgrade for the Integral-A, Seva D suit, a couple of military suits, the special Dnipro if you choose to pick it and a 100% condition SPAS. It's great for early game.

[sinful escarp]

Sure thanks

[peak eagle]

it's actually a unique fora 221 from that quest

[sinful escarp]

Do i wait for a quest to it?

[finite needle]

Go chat with him, it's a little quest

Deal with him how you want, it's more like a little flavor mission rather than anything impactful. If you want to kill, kill. If you want to do quest, do quest.

[sinful escarp]

he gave me a shit stash ;-;

[finite needle]

I seem to recall it's a Dnipro, let me check

[peak eagle]

only unique dnipro is at the endgame

[sinful escarp]

gonna kill him when I see him

what I want though is a trader

[finite needle]

Yeah it's a Fora 221, dunno why I recalled it was a Dnipro

[peak eagle]

bullpup supremacy

that and the guns don't look too dissimiliar

[finite needle]

Maybe, anyway I was mistaken, there is only one PSZ-7 military suit, the second I'm talking about is technically in Garbage

you can get it during the mission to kill Roosvelt, which is in garbage

[sinful escarp]

Do do i wait for a mission to explore cement?

Also where's the trader in garbage

Sorry, as in where's the trader in the train shed

Depot*

[finite needle]

Trader in Garbage ins the Slag Heap

[sinful escarp]

Only?

[finite needle]

or cemnt factory, there's the Duty camp there

[sinful escarp]

ooo okay

[finite needle]

It's better to get there if you're roaming or in Rostok, better techs and better gear to trade if you so wish

[sinful escarp]

danke

[finite needle]

Rostok is in a better position though, cement factory is nice just becasue it has a lot of good stuff to grab at very close distance for early game that aren't too OP (unless you venture deep into cooling towers)

[sinful escarp]

Sorry but where's the duty camp ;-;

I'm so overweight looking for somewhere to sell

[sinful escarp]

I'm at plant...

[finite needle]

Then Rostok or Slag Heap

[sinful escarp]

I am so sumb

[finite needle]

Rostok is very close, so you should be fine

Big change, they actually put two freedom boys guarding this entrance in this update

Time for your state mandated bread line (but it's free maket so it's good)

[sinful escarp]

What could make 60fps not feel like 60fps?
Could it just be jaded eyes from 180fps?

[finite needle]

DoF or motion blur might be the reason

[sinful escarp]

both off, as much as can be

DoF can only be low right

[finite needle]

My GOAT, time to sell all my red gear and never talk to him again

[finite needle]

Yeah, it can only be low. Except from that, idk.

[sinful escarp]

thanks anyway!

[peak eagle]

the only way to afford all the repair costs for your shit

[finite needle]

Oh right I forgot, the reason why I prefer duty base to rostok is that duty base actually runs fine

Time for sprite gaming

And yeah AI is taking away all the shit from the zombies, curse them.

Loners are now shooting the bloodsuckers in the poisonous pit, nice

[sinful escarp]

Are duty KOS???

Neverrmind...idk

godDAMN bro

[sinful escarp]

Cement factory ain't got shit

[finite needle]

why you killing duty tho

[sinful escarp]

ain't he was... a casualty

I got some nasty ass gloves

[finite needle]

mf just came in, turned off all the lights and went to sleep, it's 9 AM in the morning, peak Freedom behavior this.

[sinful escarp]

He's too high, give him some sausage

[finite needle]

huh so apparently they've changed the Arena timing

[sinful escarp]

That in rostok still?

Also, how do I find someone that keeps on calling 'hey, Stalker! Come over here!

[peak eagle]

he's gone

[sinful escarp]

huh?

Hiss name is Akopyan?

[finite needle]

Confirmed, you can get to fight the Chimera before the swamps, dunno if it's a bug or not

Ok, this one made me smirk. Good job.

An yeah since last patch you can get Sledgehammer early if you complete the arena. nice.

Actually better this way imho. btw I've yet to meet kill tell Varan I killed Shah and I have the sprite SEVA, Integral-A, a Fora221 and the sledgehammer. If I wanted I could go get a 100% condition Dnipro as well but that would be overkill, so I'll stop here.

[peak eagle]

A trip slightly north to red forest will get you a saiga or ram-2 shotgun

[finite needle]

If I wanted I could go back to Yantar and get me the Saiga and the Kharod but I'm actually limiting myself right now on purpose

[peak eagle]

go even further, glitchless movement to get best exoskeleton and access to pripyat early lol

[finite needle]

Exoskeleton needs koupon investment, but I get what you mean. I'm just fine with how I am right now

[golden hazel]

Shaped like amogus

[late kernel]

Can you put youtube videos here about the game or is it just video format?

[finite needle]

I just realized the game gives you the means to deal with the 2 burers in Cement Factory because in the vicinity you can also grab a 100% condition Spas

[sinful escarp]

Hey so do I not follow the normal faction rules in this game? I was talking to Roosevelt and went outside, and found Loners attacking the Commissary. Does that mean I'm not a loner? Am I just like, a seperate guy in whole that is chill with everyone?

Also, is the SHah like big bad?

[finite needle]

Loners are not really a faction, if we want to be precise about it, anyone out for himself and so on. Technically, bandits are hostile to all loners except some particular ones, so for story reason they don't really attack you on sight. But as far as basic factions go, bandits and loners are hostile and nothing can change that, so they are kill on sight and so on

In truth, as a player you can pick only between two factions for the main story, which is either Ward or Spark.

[sinful escarp]

Fair I guess, I was under the impression always that loners aren't evn a faction, it's just if you aren't a faction you ARE a loner

Anyway, I shot shah in the head and all of his bodyguards just left

They are on a journey

[finite needle]

Yeah if you kill shah without killing the others they kinda relocate, but idk if they manage to survive

[peak eagle]

I just murdered em all

[sinful escarp]

idk I find Roosevelt kind of based

[finite needle]

yeah I killed them both, but since you can actually kinda do stealth this update I tried to only kill those two without alerting the guards. You can, actually.

Now, if you get out of the Commissar base they will spot you and say yada yada this is Commissar base get out yada yada but won't actually realize you killed Roosevelt, while before they would realize you were there the moment you killed him.

[warped monolith]

I've never managed to do any stealth in any stalker game or mod. As soon as I take someone out with a silenced weapon or even a shank to the back of the neck, everyone's sixth sense pops up and they know exactly where I am

[peak eagle]

silenced pistol helps alot in the stealth department

[finite needle]

No since last patch it's a bit better, enemies won't instantly spot you

[warped monolith]

assuming the target hopefully dies in one silenced pistol headshot

[finite needle]

Never happened to me, but I've been using Skeefa's pistol, which at the end of the day it's just a Makarov

[peak eagle]

could get the APS pistol

[finite needle]

I am a weak man, how do I stop always getting the dam 5.45 Groza?

[peak eagle]

You don't

[warped monolith]

what do you mean "always getting"?

[finite needle]

end up using, is what I mean.

[warped monolith]

oh

[finite needle]

Man that's MY loot wtf

[silver dagger]

what do you recommend guys stalker 2 or gamma?

[finite needle]

I recommend both

[silver dagger]

which do you recommend more

[wanton arch]

just some casual indoor rain

[wanton arch]

play stalker 2 first if you care less about graphics, play gamma first if you care less about substance. Gamma will sort of ruin stalker 2 and stalker 2 will sort of ruin gamma depending on your preferences.

the actualy gameplay loop of gamma is unmatched

[finite needle]

No offense mate, but you're delving in half ruined areas I know it's a bug and obviously not intended, but still can't help but think that.

Yeah at the moment I prefer Stalker 2, but it's mostly because I don't really like some of the new changes.

[warped monolith]

check the roof for holes

[humble hedge]

The indoor environments has not a life.

[wanton arch]

hurr durr its a currently occupied building with a solid roof

part of the building is under like 10 ft of earth and concrete and theres still rain

[sinful escarp]

Yoo wtf i built an AK

[finite needle]

Yeah, ok, which is why I said that it's clearly a bug. Idk why you took it personal

I'm more concerned about the fact that it's not raning under here despite the obvious holes, Duty engineering is just that good I suppose

No wait it does from the big hole, my bad

[wanton arch]

that's because duty is free from capitalist sentiment /s

[queen robin]

hey do any of yall know where I can find the blackmarket option for gamma? I was gonna turn of gamma economy but it said to find the blackmarket and turn it on

[late kernel]

wrong channel

[queen robin]

oh sory my bad, which channel would I go to

[finite needle]

Lmao Duty sells the fucking Zubr

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/bober-kurwa-wombat-not-a-beaver-beaver-gif-8961649020872801915

[spare forge]

Jfc when I asked for the zone to be less empty I didn’t know that meant 3-4 military squads would spawn on me the second the game actually starts with no equipment 😐

[sinful escarp]

Found this in Zaton, What's up? Is it a quest interactable I can't use?

[split crown]

Not only is Rostok great for memory leaks, but it's also great for spawning in tons of dead NPCs!!! Free loot!!!

[wary compass]

👎

[finite needle]

A life deniers in shambles, offline npcs can't reach shelter

[storm echo]

on god that’s how i felt about trying to play starfield too, like who the fuck designed this? Were they high?

[split crown]

LMAO. Okay, Starfield is just simply a lost cause. There's no saving that game.

[split crown]

More like brain dead

[storm echo]

Maybe it’s just because i’m not willing to drop 3000k to play a mediocre game but even down to trying to control and aim with m/k makes me feel literally retarded

esp after playing gamma all week and two tapping most things running around me

i can’t even kill a fucking dog w the shotgun

[storm echo]

true that but I feel like both have these asinine core design choices that just make the game worse

Like what in gods name justifies this amount of input delay? For a survival shooter?

[split crown]

if you're playing with frame gen on, yeah, the input lag is absolutely terrible. I personally have a line of text in my engine.ini that cancels out the input lag.

[storm echo]

I’ve been trying a lot of things but the only thing that’s actually giving me a semi-responsive input is just turning off lumen

And yeah frame gen sucks mega donkey, just an input delay button

[split crown]

Lol yeah. This is the line I use to deal with the input lag.

[storm echo]

Yep tried that one too, appreciate you sharing bud

[split crown]

Gotcha

[storm echo]

maybe it’s helping but it’s hard to tell the difference, like i said only thing that’s actually done it for me is turning off lumen to get past 60fps

[split crown]

The lighting overall is just broken in Stalker 2; GSC needs to do some kinda overhaul on it to fix it from the ground up.

[storm echo]

Guess i’m a sucker for thinking a decent GPU from a couple years ago would have been good enough 🤡

[split crown]

Lol. I'm using a 3070 still; the 30 series seems to be the minimal requirement to even run Stalker 2.

[storm echo]

Yeah fuck ray tracing man

i see that, i’ve only tried it on different 20 cards no difference w any of them really

[split crown]

Ray Tracing can look awesome, but the fps it just deletes isn't worth at all.

[storm echo]

it’s not for a tight survival shooter that’s for damn sure

makes for a great far cry game lol

[split crown]

Yeah someone in this channel has been calling the game Farcry: Ukraine

[storm echo]

Oh man and that shit pisses me off too but i understand many people don’t mind it, and i wouldn’t either too much if it wasnt for the fact I can’t even seem to play without suffering

Like I loved FC2

that game was tight, plus they had vehicles to get around

Thanks for humoring my hate rant i’m still fuming from trying to play it last night

[split crown]

No worries dude, I've got my own personal struggles and complaints about the game too; however, I can only hope GSC continues communicating transparently with us in due time as they pump out consecutive patches/updates.

[storm echo]

I mean I can’t refund it now so i’ll be checking in occasionally lol

[split crown]

Ye ye

I've got almost 300 hours in-game lmao

[storm echo]

I’ve actually been getting my story fix with metro last light these past few days that’s been a blast

[golden hazel]

It leads back to the a life not having a life, ironic

[golden hazel]

I would too, IF MY GAME WOULD LAUNCH

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-benson-angry-rage-gif-21676938

[storm echo]

So sorry man but you may only be missing out on all the BS a problems getting it to run after launch lol

[golden hazel]

Some of the bs was funny though

Like Sidorovich getting thanos'd alongside the entirety of the cordon after updating to patch 1.0.3 or 1.0.2 I dont remember

[humble hedge]

Pretty sure that was me. I was right. Called it before release.

[split crown]

[lyric schooner]

Worth it if frames are already above my cap

[split crown]

I'd say most of my experiences with ray tracing have been negative; like 30-40 fps less than without using RT.

[lyric schooner]

If it dips below your cap, it's probably not worth it.

In particular the 40 and 50 series cards are specifically built for RT

[split crown]

I would hope so because yeah, RT is not too kind to my 3070.

[peak eagle]

rostok hates everyone and will attempt to destroy your pc

[split crown]

Yeah that's been my experience with that shithole thus far. It's seems to be a 50/50 whether my game will crash or not when I go to hand Wheezer my gear for the arena

[peak eagle]

If you drop the gun n armor before you talk with the guard you can keep the arena gear

[split crown]

lmao

Good to know, but I'm already on like round 4 or whatever

[true yew]

Really crazy that the background voices in the true ending scene of SoC is a foreshadowing to the oasises, like the one in cordon

[hushed garden]

Quick question, are the visuals still fucked for playing at native or are they fixed?

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/u-just-got-weezered-weezer-weezered-u-got-weezered-gif-25149361

[golden hazel]

That's an UE5 issue it'll never get fixed

[true yew]

Rip sid, died to grenade
"Marked one, what the hell!?"

[hushed garden]

Okay I shall continue crying, thank you

[true yew]

You could say its a far cry of the originals

[golden hazel]

Skeefa: I wish for the Sidorovich to DISSAPEAR
Fat Man: Unmarked One Wat De He-

[sinful escarp]

Plastic junk, gimme another bullpop any day

[golden hazel]

Elastic Plastic

[true yew]

Dislike how the kharod basically looks like an acr knock off

This why choose dnipro

[golden hazel]

"We have ACR at home"

[golden hazel]

Dnipro
Strelok's Hairline Empowered Krink

[peak eagle]

Ram 2 with slugs

[golden hazel]

The Texan, with no rounds

Only WEIGHT

[twin kraken]

That's how much one texan's pinky finger weights

[golden hazel]

Byeah

[twin kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/byeah-yeah-jerma-jerma985-gta-gif-16194072094781404916

[split crown]

https://tenor.com/view/and-god-taketh-away-and-god-taketh-away-gif-6357050272012842114

[storm echo]

haha that’s great

the bloodsuckers got to them all

[golden hazel]

It couldn't have been bloodsuckers, they would've died of heart failure the moment they got to Sid

[twin kraken]

I wonder
Is Sidorovich still considered a "furniture" in the game files?

[split crown]

Makes sense considering his fat ass is stuck to his chair

[storm echo]

exactly bro and it’s such a stupid decision to alienate everyone else who doesn’t have that kind of hardware, IMO those cards are excessive for most games disregarding the sorry state of modern game optimization and graphics

but hey maybe i’m just a cheap ass 1080p dummy

[twin kraken]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1204804925989589025/1340143569108729917/Sidorovich_Has_a_Secret_Under_His_Desk_stalker2_stalker2.mp4?ex=67bb2cb5&is=67b9db35&hm=5a8119bbbe39c5ff364ed71277505c79105e9f6d1ada1661ed15b95499109e62&

[golden hazel]

Sidorovich might be stuck to his chair in the bunker, but Demon God Sidorovich, the one that holds XRay together under the map, the game is his chair

[naive sigil]

oh

is someone playing stalker 2 with 3060ti or simillar?

i still dont like the performance on mine

[peak eagle]

Well I got the 3060 laptop version lol

[naive sigil]

i really dont like the dlss on FHD

so i try to play at 1440p but the performance...

[golden hazel]

Yeah it's gonna be like that for a while

[peak eagle]

good chunk of the problem is memory leaks

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/flood-pipe-gif-15999826281270001688

[storm echo]

2060 just recently 🤡🤡 it’s unplayable

2070 super wasnt that much better but i got pretty far in with it after some ini edits ect

[naive sigil]

they really shouldnt have based the game on unreal engine

[split crown]

This fuckin' greaseball

[naive sigil]

everything about unreal sucks

[storm echo]

he got ya good

i mean it could have been better if they tuned the game to look and play well without lumen or DLSS

[split crown]

the fact an engine.ini is needed at all to correct many performance issues that are still present in the game

[storm echo]

jfc tell me about it dog

[golden hazel]

y̶̔̕b̵̾̓b̵̀͂l̶̾̒

[storm echo]

LOL

[split crown]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-eric-andre-eric-andre-show-nightmare-gif-25187817

[storm echo]

MAArked WAAAN

[naive sigil]

lumen is performance first enemy

[split crown]

is that meant to be like a recreation of the Resident Evil 1 momento where the zombie turns around to look at you

[golden hazel]

No, that's the Sidorovich that keeps the game together

I shit you not, in earlier builds of SoC of Chernobyl they had a Sid that made the game more stable

[storm echo]

it’s like that tf2 meme but i’d believe that it’s real for X-ray lol

[golden hazel]

Unfortunately his face animations would track you and that nightmare fuel would happen

[split crown]

amazing

[golden hazel]

M̴͂͂ă̵͠r̵̀̾k̶̍͋e̸̊̓d̵̪͂ ̶̅One, you h̵̋̀å̸̕v̷̐e met ̛̃ẅ̵́̃ī̶̍t̴́̓h̵ a terrib̵̒̇l̶̐͝e̶̍̋ ̸͋̏f̷̍̏a̸͑̚t̷́e, haven't ̴́̂ẙ̸̃ou?

[split crown]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker-shadow-of-chernobyl-gif-13259672441119550833

[golden hazel]

The best part is that he makes sounds when you get near him

It's like spamming a voiceline so it goes like e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e--e-e-e-

[storm echo]

i need a video of this

[golden hazel]

https://youtu.be/PgsM-a1yd7k?si=vUauCqQ1bsNJA4ui&t=292

[split crown]

[storm echo]

oh my god 5:40 got me

thank you

[split crown]

another arena match, another crash

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/weezer-dance-tiktok-cocoajiro-gif-18213123339754023132

[split crown]

oh cool, I get to use the revolver on the final fight
no AP rounds

[rough moat]

is the hypercube good

i just got it

and whats an artefact i can use to stop the rads it gives

[wind patrol]

John stalkers work

[rough moat]

the burer stole my god damn kharod

[outer depot]

I don't know why they felt the need to add a Monolith kill-house in Pripyat, but I appreciate it

[split crown]

Lol

[rough moat]

what mods are the sight and nvgs

[split crown]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1180
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/939

[rough moat]

thank you

[split crown]

[split crown]

bruh I just found a 2nd Thunderberry lmao. Do these things even stack?

[junior thicket]

Did someone do a mod for a better flashlight

[cursive egret]

Max = 6, not 4

You can tell because liquid rock nullifies the radiation of 2 strong radiation artifacts

[cursive egret]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/221

[split crown]

Yes

[split crown]

Gotcha

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, is that a Half Life reference?!?!?!

[split plank]

Yeah, since Shadow of Chernobyl has the same Easter egg. It's really cool

[split crown]

Yuh

[cursive egret]

Damn they dont give a fuck about that guy

They get mad if I do it with a silenced pistol headshot tho

[split crown]

[proud ruin]

[proud ruin]

[nova abyss]

I'm new, it's the first time, I had a question: can you sell weapons? Or is there a specific place to sell them?

[warped monolith]

in stalker 2? or gamma?

[nova abyss]

gamma ;3

[warped monolith]

ask here: #╟🔰☢newbies-chat

[smoky forum]

I still can't activate mags redux, can someone help me?

[wary compass]

👎

[undone summit]

how do people come here not seeing newbies chat?

or not seeing "stalker2"

[split plank]

[trim iron]

The same reason they come here asking a question about something that is well documented. They are too lazy to read.

[west zealot]

Go to the link in my profile and "Write what u want", it's a google docs don't worry

[peak eagle]

reading is optional here

[buoyant quarry]

what cpu ya got?

3060ti should do just fine

[golden hazel]

It all began one day when a youtuber made a video about a game modpack that doesn't fake survival

[hexed warren]

85fps on a 5090

[storm echo]

It’s a AI frame gen card so that’s not surprising

[storm echo]

how’s the input delay? that’s what i’ve been really curious about. are you on mouse and keyboard?

[hexed warren]

its a video on youtube i am not a millionaire

[storm echo]

oh bruh i’m so dumb

[tawny holly]

stalker 2 is shit imo

[storm echo]

I can’t see it as a stalker game

[tawny holly]

Yeah

[storm echo]

I was just complaining about this the other day but i can’t comprehend many of the design decisions, it feels like the QC just didn’t exist when they were making it

The flashlights botched shadow resolution is another one I thought about

[hexed warren]

unreal is being shoved down their throats and devs dont know how to utilize it fully

[storm echo]

didn’t know it looked like shit even on higher settings lol

[storm echo]

Definitely I see that

If anything it’s just restricting it from the rest of us with the ridiculous hardware requirements

I get it, current gen is best gen, but fr I don’t have problems with any other game like i’ve had with this. Maybe this is a sign to not buy new games for me lol

[swift quartz]

what's the general opinion of MHM? I'm trying it right now and HWEW its really hard to get momentum even compared to gamma

[storm echo]

Man it’s fucked on top of performance problems

[peak eagle]

Everyone thought Unreal Engine 5 will be a new standard

pretty standard shit

[storm echo]

I’d recommend doing the modular system and just not adding the mutant module, literally increased the health and such makes the early game a real slog from my limited experience

a lot of the other features seem cool but the mutants didn’t need to be more annoying imo

[swift quartz]

this has been my experience 🙂

[storm echo]

I’d say go back and start without it man so you don’t have to waste your time

can’t remove or add mid save

[swift quartz]

love to have a dog tank a headshot of 5.45

really even the mutant module?

[storm echo]

Sorry? I mean DONT add the mutant module, the other stuff seemed cool

adds some misery like items like the glue repair shit

[swift quartz]

oh right. i am running the AIO right now, i wonder if i could just reinstall w/o the mutant module

[storm echo]

Oh oh i’m so dumb bro yes you can’t change it after you add it afaik

maybe it’ll break maybe it’ll work idk

[swift quartz]

ah too bad. that's good to know though, thank you. any other GAMMA-esque rebalances you'd recommend?

maybe "just wait for game to be done" lmao

[storm echo]

/shrug I’ve barely played this garbage tbh

30 hours in and most of it was just messing with the game to get it to run without crazy input delay

Making the game harder doesn’t really seem like something it needs right now? Maybe just balance certain components to make the gameplay loop make more sense

like the mutant looting is lit idk who’s high ass thought the game didn’t need it especially considering how much ammo you waste on them

saw a vaulting mod but it didn’t seem like it worked for me

[storm echo]

There are some AI spawning reworks like shays and “A life uh finds a way”. The latter sounds like a far cry level rework where shits going nuts all around you but both beef up spawning and active range of NPCs and mutants to emulate a zoney kinda vibe. I’d imagine they are not very good for performance though

last thing I can think of is a mod that apparently patches a function of the AI preventing them from seeing through foliage and bushes. I think it has specific compatibility issues with the “a life finds a way”. Thinks it’s called “anti x ray” or something, it’s linked in the modular hard mode mod page at the bottom.

[swift quartz]

the main thing for me is just how flooded vanilla is with resources. there's no tension to the game when you're hauling around 50 medkits

[storm echo]

MHM definitely fixes that lol

also finding cool random stuff like shit guns and repair supply’s

[swift quartz]

yeah. the contaminated shit is a bit overdone imo but it's very cool

[storm echo]

haha i agree i saw that after i ate one i was pissed

I’m curious if you can run mhm after removing the mutants lmk how that works out for you if you end up doing it

i mean swapping out for the modular version, i’d imagine it’s going to break lol

[swift quartz]

yeah i'm gonna give it a go rn!

will report back

[storm echo]

gl

I would love to know if there was a way to make the lighting look a little less shit with lumen turned off

[golden hazel]

If you turn lumen off, there's no lighting at all

[storm echo]

no shit

Well there is global lighting

[golden hazel]

All my homies hate lumen

[storm echo]

Is lumen really the only lighting UE5 is capable of there’s not a fallback?

i’m not a fan of screenshot simulator that’s for sure lol

[golden hazel]

Pretty sure Lumen is the fallback

[storm echo]

jfc

[warped monolith]

lumen more like LULmen

[storm echo]

it almost feels personal how they dangle this game in front of my eyes just to mock what I love

[golden hazel]

All the budget definitely went to optimizing the game for series S and the cutscenes

[storm echo]

shame that’s all they had a budget for

[swift quartz]

welp i can load the save. now i can kill a rat in one shot with my PM, unbelievable

[storm echo]

YO NICE

and i reset my save to play without it lol could’ve switched

[golden hazel]

At least the cutscenes were peak

[peak eagle]

Skeefa, we gotta blow everyones balls up

[golden hazel]

[storm echo]

I mean im not a fan of a cutscene where they just talk to you personally. you just have to stare at the face and wait to do a thing

[swift quartz]

i'm playing on a 3090 and its wild to have to use frame gen lol

[storm echo]

Seems to be that across the board for the most part

[swift quartz]

yep. very very cpu-bound game

[golden hazel]

The Modern AAA game rot consumes

[storm echo]

Honestly i haven’t thought about it, i’m mostly assuming it’s GPU bound on account of getting normal fps after turning lumen off

[golden hazel]

From when I used to be able to play the game it seemed more GPU bound

But then again my cpu is hella mismatched

[storm echo]

seems it

[golden hazel]

Who knows though, maybe after they added in offline mode to npcs the cpu usage kicked up

[storm echo]

is imagine that’s why i’ve been hearing people talk about worse performance post patch

[golden hazel]

[swift quartz]

welp nvm actually pretty sure this broke OXA

i cannot do the first four hours of this game again lmfao

[sinful escarp]

After troubleshooting with you guys I love this game

Quality DLSS isn't enough for me so I switched to TSR at 80% resolution and it's perfect

Thanks all

[buoyant quarry]

wait what's so surprising?

yeah frame-gen's on but 5090 should get that framerate EASILY at native 4k

this is on a 4070

and it's at framerate cap, 89% utilization

brb, gonna run the same scene at sircaa

not the exact same scene but similar area with loads of npcs in the background

game runs fine on anything newer than than the consoles AND enough VRAM

[buoyant quarry]

no, lumen is not necessary. Every time you see a game use lumen it's because the developer chose to use it.

[sinful escarp]

Chat this is so sad

[warped monolith]

you can continue hitting that box and it'll be destroyed entirely iirc

[buoyant quarry]

lumen is basically realtime lighting. Ray traced, of course. You can run it in software at really low resolution (of rays) with SDFs in the reflections or you can run it in hardware at higher resolution with actual geometry in the reflections

[buoyant quarry]

break it more

go pew pew

[sinful escarp]

How do i get rid of this?

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[sinful escarp]

Just making sure we're talking about the same thing, this?

I thought it was a TSR problem but it isn't

[golden hazel]

Nah that's a lumen problem

I think I saw someone talking about it a few days ago too

[split crown]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-gsc-gif-4431724496208349257

The lighting is atrocious

[golden hazel]

The lighting had me like "I am blind, I cannot see"

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-heart-of-chernobyl-сталкер-сталкер-2-stalker-stalker-2-gif-4942242057245832811

[split crown]

The trailers really had me in the first half, man. Not gonna lie.

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker2-discontent-anger-gif-25555837

[peak eagle]

Even strelok lost his luscious hair, reduced back to the widows peak

[golden hazel]

Leon (Strelok) Kennedy

[buoyant quarry]

no, that's light leakage from low res software lumen

can be fixed with hardware lumen.

[buoyant quarry]

this scene is with hardware lumen btw

it makes an INCREDIBLE difference. I think GSC turned it off to optimize performance. once they upgrade their engine to a newer, more performant version of UE5 I'm sure we'll see S2 get Hardware Lumen

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/shad-shadstroy-nikolai-niko-stalker-stalker-gif-11370441456931313376

So we can expect it about 2 years I'm guessing

And then the same bugs they patched out showing back up after they upgraded the engine

[buoyant quarry]

maybe not so long

hardware lumen (left) vs software (right)

big dif

[golden hazel]

Idk man, there's so many damn bugs in the game still

And not the funny kind either

[buoyant quarry]

if you start a new game, you're far less likely to encounter queest bugs

the problem is with these bugs that many scripting errors are tied to your progression from previous patches which are bonked no matter how you look at it

[sinful escarp]

How do change?

[buoyant quarry]

and if you've installed any mods, its even worse

[buoyant quarry]

GSC did software only to optimize performance sadly

[sinful escarp]

Yeah cause the game is so optimized...

[buoyant quarry]

they knew it would be really bad press so they dropped it MONTHS before launch

[buoyant quarry]

it is on newer systems because of hardware compatibility with mesh shaders making nanite rendering super easy

however, any cards with less than 8gb of vram or older than the 4000 series on nv and 7000 on amd is a generation worse

[sinful escarp]

I guess I'm being a bit sarcastic, idk. I thought 30 series would be new enough but apparently not

[buoyant quarry]

only higher end 30 series

[golden hazel]

[buoyant quarry]

30 series is older than ue5 sadly

[sinful escarp]

Maybe it's too much but I thought maybe being able to choose 2 different rendering modes or similar would be smart, 1 for low end

[buoyant quarry]

so think of it this way, nanite and lumen were showcased running at 30fps on PS5

that's their performance threshold

[golden hazel]

30 fps

[buoyant quarry]

3060 for example is weaker than the consoles

[sinful escarp]

3070 here

[lavish swift]

you can use DLSS Tweaks to add ultra quality which is 77% res or change existing values of quality balanced performance and ultra performance dlss is better than tsr because less ghosting and better upscale technique and update dlss and use k preset

[sinful escarp]

Oh, DLSS tweaks? I'll search it up

[buoyant quarry]

it's fine on controller, but yeah, I blame the shit hardware scene. Considering that in 8th gen we had video cards that DOUBLED the speed of the consoles in the budget section and this year the 4060 and 7600xt only MATCHED the consoles says a lot

[buoyant quarry]

oh man, it's the vram 😦

[sinful escarp]

Haha, I switched from the 12GB 3060 recently too

[buoyant quarry]

is that any better?

[sinful escarp]

I only spent 2 days optimizing after the switch, so I don't actually know. It performed horribly but it could be the VRAM leaking issue

[golden hazel]

Stalker 2 more like Google Chrome

[buoyant quarry]

the game is constantly asking for exactly 8gb, but if you exceed it by a single mb it'll mean performance issues on 8gb cards

[sinful escarp]

yay...

Can't overclock storage huh

[golden hazel]

[buoyant quarry]

yeah it sucks. but nvidia should have seen it coming considering that the consoles have 16 gb

for them to still be making 8gb cards is a disgrace

[golden hazel]

Me with my rtx 2060 with 6gb of vram

[sinful escarp]

Time to put a request on gumtree for any card above 3070

[junior thicket]

depends on resolution

[buoyant quarry]

GPUs aren't so simple anymore either. They have lots of little modules that greatly improve performance on trivial things.
But I promise guys, once we get full adoption of cards with more vram, hardware rt, mesh shaders, and all the fun stuff we're going to really get the most out of these technologies. In a way this is as big of a transition period as full 3-D graphics were

[sinful escarp]

I swear dude the next generation dude the next one

Don't worry guys we'll have AI cards that can code games for us real time

[buoyant quarry]

I'm sure, but here's the other issue... UE5 was also designed to ALWAYS be upscaled to higher resolutions, which means that 1080p is actually too low (because the consoles target 4k)

[sinful escarp]

I feel Nvidias AI fad will prevent alot of innovation for a while, and boost prices massively

[buoyant quarry]

it's the consoles fault... but this time it's because they're more powerful than the average PC

[golden hazel]

NvAIdia*

[buoyant quarry]

gosh yeah. I like it in many ways but I'm also annoyed by it in many others.

think of it. when the RX 480 came out we were DOUBLING console performance on budget cards only 3 years into the PS4 and XBO

[sinful escarp]

Intel B580 12GB... what do we think

[golden hazel]

oh yes the new AI card with AI that has AI performance with AI so that it can AI when you AI and I AI so you can buy the AI to have more AI and the AI will understand that it's AI

[buoyant quarry]

now we're 5 years in and budget cards technically are still more poorly equipped

[golden hazel]

Probably the best or one of the best $300 cards

[sinful escarp]

vs 3070 8GB

[buoyant quarry]

man if the 4060 was 12 gb it would be great

[sinful escarp]

it's ridiculously cheap for it's clock and VRAM...

[buoyant quarry]

I say hang on. When the new card stocks stabilize you'll actually get them at MSRP

[junior thicket]

doubt

[buoyant quarry]

eh you're right. not great, acceptable.

[junior thicket]

neither

6750xt outperforms 4060 16gb, you tell me

[sinful escarp]

but-but-

[buoyant quarry]

depends on the hardware featureset of the game, but yeah, in pure raster, AMD smokes nvidia at every price category

[buoyant quarry]

stock is shit for that card, so prices too

[junior thicket]

if the 4060 would have been decent, should be few % above 3070, with 12gb minimum

[golden hazel]

Begun, the scalper wars have.

[sinful escarp]

like 270 USD

[buoyant quarry]

Valky, it's a really bad time to get a new card. literally better off streaming games or getting a console even

[sinful escarp]

Also I was trying to say that Battlemage is a homo sexual ass name but it got removed, mods I'm one so it's ok

[golden hazel]

[sinful escarp]

I thought everyone selling their 40 series would make things good?

[golden hazel]

In theory yes but the 50 series sucks

[sinful escarp]

hah

[buoyant quarry]

two buts

[golden hazel]

With all the flame generation technology

[junior thicket]

why would u ever sell 40 series

[buoyant quarry]

50 series is not very impressive in performance gains AND nvidia let most of the 4000 series stock sell before releasing 5000 series so even used 4000 series are getting scalped because there is no stock

[sinful escarp]

Teehee 2 butts

[buoyant quarry]

nice

[junior thicket]

50 series is literally copy paste of 40 series but more cores for higher power draw and price

[sinful escarp]

Guess I'll just wait, yeah. it's sad. Wish I kept my 3060

[buoyant quarry]

but yeah, these companies looked at how AMD had so much 6000 series in stock that it ended up ruining the value proposition of the 7000 series

[junior thicket]

its not a new generation, its old gen but bigger

[buoyant quarry]

to be fair to the 5000 series cards, their parallel processing is much better

so they'll handle things like nanite and lumen much more gracefully

[junior thicket]

yeah, foor more price and more power

[buoyant quarry]

with mesh shaders and hardware lumen that is

[sinful escarp]

Are you an Astro naut

[golden hazel]

Yeah but they don't have physx anymore, how am I supposed to enjoy Mafia 2 with Physx on

[junior thicket]

they just made better 40 cards, they didnt do anything new

[sinful escarp]

I remember when there was a 50 model

[buoyant quarry]

that's basically why they're inetegrating those parallel features INTO the GPU now

[junior thicket]

enable dlss fake frames :))))

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-clear-sky-game-soldier-gif-22616292

[buoyant quarry]

hey to be fair to fake frames I don't mind them if I can't tell they're fake

and I can't tell they're fake on S2

[golden hazel]

They looked fake as fuck to me

[buoyant quarry]

DLSS 4 FG is pretty good

FSR 3.1 is a bit fuzzy, they look good only at high res

[junior thicket]

Fg are all the same

[golden hazel]

And my other comparison with an UE5 game is Marvel Rivals, and in that one it's probably the art style but they look pretty good

[sinful escarp]

Is the 2000 series DLSS 1 or 2

[buoyant quarry]

DLSS 4 is better with latency because it's parallel not sequential. So it yields more natural frames

[golden hazel]

Fuck, the 4070ti is only 12gb

[late portal]

Playing stalker 2 seems to have bricked my 4090

[buoyant quarry]

the super is 16! but 12 is enough unless you go for path tracing

[golden hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231286447131328544/1281671714425802973/this_is_glorpshit_caption.gif

[junior thicket]

800€ kekw

[buoyant quarry]

but yeah don't buy the ti without super

[golden hazel]

There's a Super Ti?

Nvidia what the hell is your naming schemes

[buoyant quarry]

there's literally a card for every 5 fps at this point

[sinful escarp]

Tarkov lets me use all 3 Super Sampling at once
what is this power

[buoyant quarry]

wait wut

[golden hazel]

Your honor, Tarkov

https://tenor.com/view/valorant-gif-4519329117305927477

[junior thicket]

simple, they dont work

fsr options are a copy paste of the same switch

[golden hazel]

Oh wait the listing was a 4070 Super not a Ti

[junior thicket]

there are no dll in the game folder, and i very much doubt they embedded them in the game code

[buoyant quarry]

that's a good card

[junior thicket]

700€ 12gb good card?

[buoyant quarry]

no not for 700

[golden hazel]

4070 Super is 12gb, 4070 ti is 12gb, 4070 ti super is 16gb

[buoyant quarry]

I got a 4070 non super like 15 months ago for 450

what are these prices???

[junior thicket]

that is the price for new here in europe

[golden hazel]

1400 dollars holy shit

[buoyant quarry]

I can understand this one in particular being inflated because it's a collector piece by now

[late portal]

My gpu does not seem to be recognized by my mobo anymore after a bsod.

[late portal]

Im probably overreacting and its just some weird driver thing

[buoyant quarry]

got integrated graphics?

[junior thicket]

take it off and reseat it

[buoyant quarry]

and DDU to be extra safe too

[golden hazel]

Good fucking god they're all around the same price range

[late portal]

DDU?

[buoyant quarry]

Display Driver Uninstaller

great bit of software

[late portal]

Fuck me i forgot how big this thing is

Gpu the size of a Toyota

[junior thicket]

what gpu is it

[golden hazel]

I'm surprised the 5090 didn't end up bigger

[late portal]

Asus tuf 4090

[junior thicket]

no and that is the reason why its catching fire

[golden hazel]

But so are the 5070s and 5080s

[junior thicket]

5080, not 70s

[golden hazel]

I saw a 5070 a while back too

[junior thicket]

if a 70 suffer the pin issue from day one for some time, that will catch fire too

[junior thicket]

its matter of time, the lower tdp will make it happen in longer time

[golden hazel]

Flame generation tech is real

[buoyant quarry]

anyone optimistic about AMD's new cards?

[junior thicket]

yeah

[buoyant quarry]

They're looking pretty ok in the leaks

[junior thicket]

9070xt is mid between 7900xt and xtx

[buoyant quarry]

that price has to be good though

[junior thicket]

and 9070 is about 7900gre

[golden hazel]

There's a listing for a 4070 ti super near you!
The 4070 ti super in question:

They really are all scalped across the board christ

[buoyant quarry]

800 is the msrp

[junior thicket]

if you read techpowerup 10 minutes u can have a good guess on performance and prices

[buoyant quarry]

oh it's out of stock. But yeah those PNY cards are actually decent. Nothing crazy, but fine.

[golden hazel]

Yeah

Not like I overclock my cards anyway

[buoyant quarry]

I actually ended up returning a zotac 4070 for my current PNY 4070.

[junior thicket]

i am speeding on my 7800xt

[buoyant quarry]

simply because of the direction the fins are facing I get much better thermals

[junior thicket]

just sad rdna 3 its ass at overclocking

[buoyant quarry]

great card. AMD's 7000 series FUCKS good

[junior thicket]

160 fps average on streets of tarkov, thanks 98x3d

[buoyant quarry]

bad at OC means every bit of the card is well used

so I take that as a W

[junior thicket]

no its more of bad binning

[golden hazel]

I can get an RX580 8gb for $140

[junior thicket]

just unlucky

[buoyant quarry]

oh, they're getting good OCs in forums?

[junior thicket]

yeah techpowerup has good % uplift, i dont even get half of that because my memory controller cut down power if the core is 100% ppt

and there is no way to cap the core decently, its always an algorythmn doing it

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9070-series-gaming-performance-leaked-rx-9070xt-is-42-faster-on-average-than-7900-gre-at-4k 42% faster - 7900xtx

[golden hazel]

Damn all these prices suck, probably just gonna end up getting a new laptop holy shit

[junior thicket]

no you dont, get a 7900xt

[golden hazel]

I'm hesistant on amd gpus cause I had to deal with em twice in the past and they always had some stupid driver issue

[buoyant quarry]

Wait devil

[junior thicket]

amd driver issue is a myth for some good time now, you just need a good psu and be within the amd minimum

[buoyant quarry]

I promise that once stock stabilizes you'll find good prices

Plus, this gives you time to plan

[golden hazel]

[buoyant quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-gif-10940865116650073754

[junior thicket]

7900XT is now 680€ which is massive value of that gpu

[golden hazel]

Those aren't in stock either

[junior thicket]

they are

[golden hazel]

I'm searching right now, they aren't

Only one that pops up is the 7800XT

[junior thicket]

we have in italy tho

[buoyant quarry]

Mamma mia

[junior thicket]

sapphire pulse is 680

[golden hazel]

I ain't in 🤌 Italia

[buoyant quarry]

Voglio una pizza

[golden hazel]

[junior thicket]

i mean usually italy is the shittest place for stocks

[golden hazel]

Makes sense, y'all got the focus on flame generation tech(the good kind)

For a tha margherita mama mia 🤌

[junior thicket]

🙃

[buoyant quarry]

Ha! You've never been to Repubblica Dominicana then

[golden hazel]

Never heard of that place before

[buoyant quarry]

Where you from, devil?

[golden hazel]

The greatest country on earth, Texas

[buoyant quarry]

Oh yeah in mexico right?

[golden hazel]

[junior thicket]

almost

[golden hazel]

So where even is Repubblicana Dominicato

[buoyant quarry]

It's literally in Mexico

Domican republic is to the east of Cuba

[golden hazel]

Wait so Domincana Republicana is part of Haitana?

https://tenor.com/view/shad-shadstroy-nikolai-niko-stalker-stalker-gif-11370441456931313376

[buoyant quarry]

Funny story, yes it was

[golden hazel]

Since when? Wat huh???

[buoyant quarry]

They kicked the french off their side of the island and took over the Spanish side

If you know anything about Haitian independiente, it was very racial... And the spanish side of the island was not very... Uhh... Of the favorable "race"

[golden hazel]

This is the first time I hear of either thing

[buoyant quarry]

So Dominican independence from haiti was kind of a lie. The generals convinced the people to fight for independence or risk being annihilated like the French in the west were. So Dominican Republic won and became independent, only to have the generals hand the country back to Spain... After which there was ANOTHER war of independence

We had two wars of independence

[golden hazel]

rip

[buoyant quarry]

Texas could have also fought the Americans for independence

[golden hazel]

I mean technically it did twice

[buoyant quarry]

I won't count the civil war as a texas thing

[golden hazel]

[buoyant quarry]

It wouldn't be accurate

So, devil. Why are y'all American?

[golden hazel]

The Alamo was remembered and then the power of friendship defeated Mexico and the general was like "Nah ese we out man"

That's the gist of it

[buoyant quarry]

Why not put mr. Crockett on the texas dollar bill

Would have been sick

[golden hazel]

Good question

Honestly I don't know the requirements to be put on the dollar bills

[buoyant quarry]

You guys have state specific quarters though, right?

[golden hazel]

Oh yeah a ton of em

There's even alternate arts of the same state if I remember correctly

[buoyant quarry]

State specific menus at PF Chang's too?

[buoyant quarry]

I dig that

[golden hazel]

I've never been to PF Chang's

[buoyant quarry]

Really? It's one of thew few US food franchises I actually like

That and cracker barrel

[golden hazel]

I've never seen one either, but cracker barrel is fucking great

[lime umbra]

very stalker 2

[golden hazel]

You're right, there needs to be a cracker barrel mod for HoC tuah

[buoyant quarry]

Well, sparter is just a tangent because we were talking about getting graphics cards for s2 and regional prices turned into cultural sharing

[golden hazel]

Gracias amigo sparterino

[buoyant quarry]

My mentor in school was a guy from texas

[golden hazel]

Did he have the yee haw accent too?

[buoyant quarry]

Nah. I light drawl was all

[lime umbra]

[buoyant quarry]

Occasionally would turn a single vowel into two

[golden hazel]

[buoyant quarry]

Name was Johnsa

Always found it to be an unusual name

[golden hazel]

First darn time I ever done hear of that'n

Definitely unusual

[buoyant quarry]

So it IS unusual

Unlike Haley which is probably the name of every texas girl I've met

[golden hazel]

Yeah, sounds about right

[buoyant quarry]

Like every latina is called Maria

Ever Texas girl is Haley

[golden hazel]

BRO fr fr ong no cap sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

[buoyant quarry]

Hey I can say it because I'm technically "latino"

Only 2nd generation... But still

[golden hazel]

Just spouting facts

[buoyant quarry]

It's a solid truth

[golden hazel]

So that means you come with DLSS

and framegen

[buoyant quarry]

That explains why i like that shit so much

I love my fake pixels and frames

Anyway, I'm gonna take my frame generated ass to bed

[golden hazel]

[buoyant quarry]

Take care. Nice chatting about mexico and haleys

[storm echo]

Yuuuup 😬 i’m right there with you lol

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker2-nonstop-gif-7385508345518191769

First hours of the game be like

[storm echo]

I don’t expect much from these fake AI cards

[storm echo]

I meant more in terms of playing S2, blows you can’t do without and have some basic lighting system that’s not going to kill performance

I realize i’ve been pinging with every reply my bad lol

[storm echo]

Lol replace that with vodka and you got it right

[golden hazel]

[storm echo]

honestly tho the only way i can handle going the the intro again is going to be cooked out of my mind, im so sick of waiting for the cutscenes

[buoyant quarry]

Software lumen is not very demanding. What's demanding is nanite. Since my card can run it well, I don't mind it at all, but i do agree it spells trouble when scaling down to anything below console spec

[storm echo]

You say that it’s not demanding can’t say i agree considering turning it off fixes my frames. Nanite prob also blows

It’s absolutely on the devs for setting that bar to even play this game. Especially considering it’s purely for graphics, not even considering gameplay or a life.

good to hear it’s not a problem for you but for everyone who doesn’t have these higher end cards it’s unplayable literally. I mean literally.

[golden hazel]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[storm echo]

Oh and while i’m here relying on frame gen is the worst possible solution for anything and it seems clear to me the devs were making the game around it. Hence no AA options (besides taa for upscaling 🤡) or ability to change lighting systems and such.

[split crown]

[golden hazel]

the game has not a smoke

[split crown]

Yeah, I was thinking the other day how sad it is there's no smoking feature in Stalker 2. Even if it didn't get rid of rads - there should be packs of smokes you can collect or buy around the zone to use.

[golden hazel]

[proud ruin]

tfw no chain smoking in zone

[split crown]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[golden hazel]

No chain smoking, only kidney stones

[proud ruin]

no cocaine or fentanyl

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nonstop-stalker-stalker-2-gif-7788747039576337952

[proud ruin]

unplayable

[proud ruin]

I bet skifs shits are pure liquid on that energy drink and sausage diet

[golden hazel]

Probably

[proud ruin]

[split crown]

He just simply doesn't shit

[proud ruin]

Immersive shitting mod when

[split crown]

as soon as the Sidorovich romance mod releases

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker2-nonstop-gif-7385508345518191769

[round bronze]

Guys, do we tell him?

[regal scarab]

anyone get the keybind bug where after saving a keybind it completely breaks in-game and the bind is unusable no matter what you do. Any fixes?

[finite needle]

Tfw everyone Is chain smoking except you

[split crown]

Just casually found a Compass in Garbage

[proud ruin]

[jolly fiber]

freedomers shaming them out of rostok for smoking real tobacco

[warped nebula]

I only find mine in the vehicle graveyard for some reason

[finite needle]

I deeply dislike the new artifact collection method, them jumping around makes it really shit to collect them with the starter detector

[outer depot]

But that’s been a thing since CS

[warped monolith]

artifacts are almost pure RNG. You can get the best artifacts in Lesser Zone if you get lucky.

[outer depot]

Sheer favor of the zone, I also found my compass in Cordon

And like four Thunderberry at the electric hind

This without rerolling the saves because that’s stupid

[peak eagle]

I ended up finding a couple Liquid Rocks early ingame, so had no issue with rads basically the entire playthrough

[warped monolith]

I was less lucky only found low tier artifacts in the early game

[peak eagle]

Only 1 thunderberry and that was near endgame for me

[outer depot]

I got my liquid rock from the acid field in garbage and my first thunderberry from the electro field there as well

Felt like a king

I swear the Electric Hind has to be seeded though

I only ever find good shit there

[waxen island]

can someone tell me are main story goes through all the locations in stalker 2 or not?

[jovial berry]

Not really. I don't think there are main story missions that go to Cordon

[peak eagle]

There's one that does go to cordon towards the later stages of the game

[finite needle]

Apparenty, Gothic 1 remake demo got rereleased today, and this time it kinda feels like Gothic 1

[jovial berry]

That's good to know

I was kind of disappointed that there was not a need to go to cordon at all

[peak eagle]

Still got its mad chicken eater sidorovich

[finite needle]

Going back to Cordon is kind of a power fantasy though, as the area is clearly early game but you are required to get there just a little bit before going into zaton and towards late game as a main story mission

[split roost]

Sup I just finished the game wanting to do a modded playthrough, any recommendations for mods for immersion, balancing, mor vanilla-like feel? I'm not really sure where to start with all that

[humble hedge]

Lol welcome to gaming in 2025 (UE5)

First Stalker 2 now this

[warped monolith]

a lot of games have been doing this before stalker or dune

[split roost]

If you got links to things to read instead of direct answers i'll appreciate it too

[humble hedge]

[odd fjord]

this out?

[warped monolith]

no, it's the benchmark tool

[odd fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-11437316614611695342

[humble hedge]

Looks pretty cool. I'm carefully optimistic.

[cerulean yacht]

Guys, should I buy stalker 2?

[buoyant quarry]

*Newer cards. Not high end. It's an architectural issue, not a power issue

[buoyant quarry]

absolutely

[outer depot]

You can skirt over to Cordon pretty early and do some side tasks for Sid there, plus one for Quiet after Wild Island

[brave comet]

100%

[wanton heart]

How to spawn exo rapair kit ?

[outer depot]

[icy basin]

[peak eagle]

This channel somehow has a big neon sign for chatters that manage to not see newbie chat

[storm echo]

Raytracing is a power issue, and forcing it is an issue with the games development. Explain to me how raytracing isn’t an extremely power hungry process compared to any other lighting system?

[odd fjord]

hell no

[outer depot]

I’d say yes, it’s been an enjoyable 250 hours

[storm echo]

Yeah I’ll say no as well, what are your specs? Maybe if they’re good enough.

[odd fjord]

nah man not even if you have specs

[storm echo]

the minimum specs are hilarious a 1060 would absolutely not run this game lol

[odd fjord]

if you have money to throw sure

else just wait

[storm echo]

The recommended specs say it here. 3070Ti and 4070 are high end cards, that’s not an opinion. Again I understand that your newer is better and yes architecturally it helps but the problem is forcing the busted ass lumen system. I don’t care how good the screenshots look. I want responsive gameplay on mouse and keyboard without input delay, that is all I want, graphics be damned. If I have to replace my perfectly good graphics card JUST to get that then it’s simply not worth it. And as a die hard stalker fan that’s total BS. Not even considering how unlike the previous games it is in terms of gameplay. I payed full price for this game that doesn’t even play and I’m not taking responsibility for that lol.

I don’t mean to be rude but I just can’t agree with your reply.

[outer depot]

Basically everything in my computer is about four years old and I can hold ~60 @ 1440 with everything set to a mix of high/epic or ~110 with framegen if I feel like killing myself

Not great but yeah

[storm echo]

the framegen makes my delay so unbearable, what’s your gpu?

[outer depot]

Some variant of RX 6800, I’d need to check

[storm echo]

my biggest problem is vram afaik

i’m not versed in amd cards unfortunately

[outer depot]

Pretty sure it’s just a basic PowerColor RX6800

It’s a 16 gb VRAM card so it still handles stuff okay despite being three(?) gens back now