╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[wicked adder]

Press the Penis touching button idiot?????

[hollow juniper]

oh didnt set the keybind, i forgot

thx

[wicked adder]

[west moth]

#1310675708091301930 message

[young narwhal]

Yeah this worked.. thanks

[high spindle]

late game sucks
i gotta smoke these two guys for a stash that probably has 3 medkits and 40 AP rounds

[haughty sierra]

what is ur fav faction and why it's duty

[cunning stirrup]

Ward

[golden rose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1zM3ePkYPo

have you guys seen this? really hope they evolve the a-life in stalker 2 at least to the level of the old triology

[pliant cloud]

@golden rose several newer games dumbed down their AI

[west moth]

Has been posted in other channels, yes. Hope they work the AI out

Man, even Fear had a good AI, that was 20 years ago. It can't be the technology

And i understand that creating a game AI is difficult

[pliant cloud]

its less important because the average player now wants cosmetics

[west moth]

Thats what the assholes in management think

[pliant cloud]

"And i understand that creating a game AI is difficult" right also the focus has shifted to multiplayer so...

[west moth]

It's just crazy how today you could create an AI with a budget that is a few percent of the marketing effort in modern games

Instead most goes into eye candy and shipping unfinished games is the norm

[timber mist]

Lads have you played the original trilogy, the ai still had many moments where it did the dumbest thing like single file through a door and get picked off, get stuck, bunch up and so on

[west moth]

Sure, it was far from perfect and OG Stalkers were an incredible bugfest but S2 was advertised as having A-life and better, instead there's some shitty spawner crap

[timber mist]

Getting tired of hearing this shit, people comparing a decade of development on three games ai vs a few years and half the team relocating and going off to war

Its an unfair comparison

And if you're going off GAMMA's AI, thats a terrible comparsion, its got most of the smart shit not included and its missing smart terrains

[west moth]

Well me personally i try my best not to be unfair and to take the pandemic and the war into account. Don't get me wrong, i just hope for them to polish the game

I don't shit on the devs and i even bought the ultimate version to support. I just hope S2 becomes the great game it deserves to be

[pliant cloud]

then you might need a community that consistently hammers on the lore

[timber mist]

Forgive me, I'm mostly agitated because people with no understanding of development, circumstances or programming keep weighing in with their shit opinions.

[pliant cloud]

so the devs in Stalker 2 might take notice

if enough people make noice

[west moth]

Seems to be no priority amongst todays gamers and devs unfortunately

[west moth]

All good, written communication is easy to be misunderstood and i', not crystal clear at all times Game dev and business is hard in any case, people forget easily. Unfortunately there's a lot of shitty business practices today surrounding games which makes us prejudiced

What is Dead Air?

[pliant cloud]

nvrmnd

[west moth]

Found a stalker mod called dead air

[gusty plaza]

Are there any interesting modpacks that make stalker 2 a little bit more like anomaly/gamma in terms of balance?

[west moth]

Dead air looks good. Crazy how much effort the OG Stalkers created

[west moth]

Look in channels and roles, there are a few channels with more info

[pliant cloud]

theyre still rolling out updates, so I guess be patient regarding stalker II

[craggy dew]

does anyone know the ID for Seek and You Shall Find quest? I've bought ultimate edition, but it doesnt want to start for me after A Needle in a Haystack quest, as it should

[wicked adder]

They’re 100% not gonna make those specific changes in their updates

The closest will probably be sellable mutant parts

Stalker 2 was never gonna be like Gamma, mods are your only hope if that’s what you want

[outer depot]

People are way too used to the tweaked to fuck modded stalker AI which still also randomly breaks all the time just like it does in the base trilogy

The S2 spawner system is far from good and the initial spawn radius was so tiny it’s hilarious

But I remember how fucking bad the base A-Life is in SOC/CS/COP

[west moth]

Luckily, as stalkers we are patient and we know that it can take a few years before the game will be polished, the modding tools released and some big mods like gamma will be done

[outer depot]

Frankly most of my problems with S2 AI comes from the fact they move really predictably and seem to really like open ground, which is probably more to do with the fact that there’s a lot more open ground. Firefights in the open in Jupiter or Zaton in CoP weren’t exactly thrilling either

[hollow basin]

Anyone tried the last patch did it improve performance or its still bad?

[outer depot]

Some of the AI mods out now speed them up a bit and have them do extra combat actions more often (dodge, juke, cover, position change) which helps them feel a bit more dynamic

[pallid mirage]

I'm staying on 1.1.3 until I know which mods might be broken, I've put way too much time into this and I just want to play my broken game for a while

[keen knot]

Do you have any patch notes for the recent one ? I found nothing !

[pallid mirage]

Nothing super detailed in the discord, more detail on Steam, I think. Mainly crash and memory fixes, it mentioned Rostok memory leak

[ripe hollow]

People were shitting on the CS for the last fight being too long, and here i am, shooting monolith for 3 hours before culmination and one hour after .

[wicked adder]

Stalker suffers from shitty ending syndrome

all 4 games have kinda Shit endings

They don't know how to end these things in any way than just throwing 10000 monolithians at you

[pallid mirage]

So judging by a mod as large as MHM being unaffected by 1.1.4, I would probably say it's probably safe to update for someone with a large modlist, yeah? With it being mostly memory and performance fixes, most mods should be mostly untouched, right? I'm just really anxious about updating, after all the work I've done and help I've gotten.

[warped monolith]

oh I thought you were talking about the endings themselves.
But yeah the lategame parts are just awful

[alpine swan]

yeah, endgame underground levels don't impress

I had to do it over and over again to get all 4 endings and it was very boring

[mint holly]

F.E.A.R is one of my favorite games, and its AI is extremely impressive, but its also not actually as smart as it appears. The voicelines and everything really sell it.

for example, the reason enemies flank you so often isn't because they decide to, but because fake obstacles are left when enemies move, so when a guard takes a path, all the other AI will seek another path of less resistance to the player

[bitter fulcrum]

playing a game, and wonder why i lag so much
finnish said game and its a patch for stalker 2
O . O
checks patch notes... no fixes for the campain missions
T_T still hard locked In Search of a Miracle

[latent trellis]

oof

a month long wait for... that?

hopefully there's a huge update in the pipeline, and hopefully we don't have to wait several weeks for it

[wintry mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/cut-the-cheese-fart-whew-smelly-gif-20923166

[bitter fulcrum]

yea really sucks, but hay i dont have shader cashe crashes anymore

[warped monolith]

FEAR's AI works largely on selling you the illusion. They're actually kinda basic.
Sure, for 2005 they were amazing, but like Sectric said it's mostly the voice quips from the soldiers that give you the impression that they're being tacticool

they're just like COD AI. Duck into cover, chuck grenades, peek out occasionally

[west moth]

I know FEAR is smoke and mirrors, but still, all of this just worked

[west moth]

Sometimes, my body produces dead air

I am just dreaming of Stalker having a life

Maybe Metro will come through ... they have been awfully quiet since the war started (except for that VR thing that somebody else made)

[outer depot]

Devs basically said they were going to take a few weeks off once 1.13 came out before they resumed patch work

[west moth]

They deserve all the free time they get and more, and i sincerely hope they made good money with S2 so far. I just hope for Stalker to become an absolutely great game series, it would be sooo deserved

[warped monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/it-just-works-tod-todd-howard-тоддговард-fallout-skyrim-gif-14803660

[west moth]

MBOmnis got the reference

[outer depot]

Honestly even this is the least painful endgame from a stalker series. There was the bug with Granite one-tapping you but that was the fucking norm at CNPP/Monolith War Lab except there they also stuck their arms through thin walls to do it or getting instagibbed down long corridors

I spent so many fucking hours just getting through Jupiter underground in CoP trying to keep my fucking retards alive too even if the actual ending itself is a wet fart

And then the last section of Clear Sky is actual pure hell which then terminates at a boss fight that bugs out 3/4 times

[wintry mountain]

Sorry best I can do is current S2 alife with spawns spread out and populated in a larger radius for us to run into

[outer depot]

And it’s an improvement to be sure!

[west moth]

Sidorovich you scammy bastard

Nah, but seriously, its a miracle the game even released. Now its about being a patient stalker. In a year or two the situation could look completely different

I know i will enjoy my first playthrough like crazy

[wintry mountain]

Yes it should be better in a year I would think

2 should have some solid larger mods

https://tenor.com/view/realistic-kevinmcgarry-mitchcutty-heartland-gif-23324310

[warped monolith]

I sincerely doubt it

[wintry mountain]

Mod community has done a good job filling in some gaps at least to buy them some time I'd like to think

[warped monolith]

the sdk is not gonna give modders as much freedom as they have with X-Ray engine's source code for the first game.

[wintry mountain]

If it gives us access to existing bps and adding bps. I think that would give us quite a bit of freedom. If it gives us access to their plugin functions then that would pretty much let us change most things.

Right now we just have variables and clever hacks/rewrites in cfgs

[outer depot]

And people are getting pretty good even with that

[west moth]

I thought UE5 is inconceivably great for modding

[warped monolith]

in theory, yeah. In practice? Only as moddable as the dev will allow

[west moth]

GSC pls bro dont fuck this up

They would be epicly stupid if they wouldn't make S2 moddable af. If they smart, they would support modding on an olympic level because thats what made the OG stalker so damn famous and legendary

[humble hedge]

How's the new patch?

[wintry mountain]

They did remove encryption from the current cfgs. So I think they understand modding is mutual benefit

[fossil thunder]

Holy shit, is the new patch actually 250gb or is Steam losing its marbles?

[west moth]

I'm pretty sure Stalker would have been long forgotten and S2 never existed if not for the modding of the OG Stalkers

[wintry mountain]

was 13gb

[fossil thunder]

15 years from now, someone will repeat your comment, when talkikg about S3 lmao

[wintry mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-hermes-hermes-conrad-you-rotten-kids-rotten-kids-gif-22942066

[tall current]

is A-life finally fixed

[warped monolith]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[tall current]

wonderful

[gritty plaza]

Is there a moder or file digger that can hit me up with stalker 2 faction patches? im trying to find them in fmodel, but i can only see errors

[ripe hollow]

I wish there were more lore lying around. Terminals, cpcs, environmental storytelling. There's really no point to explore all these locations, just to kill some poltergeist and loot a stash with a bottle of vodka and a medkit.

Although, i've never been hooked to a game this much in my life

[outer depot]

What

There’s a shitload of that though, there are holes to fall down with the remains of encounters or little notes relating to stashes/random characters all over

There could be more sure but I’m still finding stuff I missed on my fourth run

Really the only two areas I think could use additional population with stuff is cement factory/cooling towers and the great swamp

Cooling Towers was apparently supposed to have a pretty involved Duty questline involving lab X-12 which is actually still under the map there as a fully modeled but empty area

[finite needle]

I wish we could do a hostile takeover of Duty and just reconquer Rostok

[outer depot]

Duty/Freedom faction war resumption post-SIRCAA definitely got trimmed down a lot

There are so many references to it by NPCs but nothing really changes

[finite needle]

Me and the boys just blowing up current freedom leadership and bringing back the eco-terrorism

I don't care about stashes gimme meaningful secondary content

[outer depot]

Honestly that’s my main criticism about the world/story: everyone says the Ward getting clapped at SIRCAA and then Duga back to back means the treaty they were maintaining is done and everyone is going back to fighting… and that just doesn’t happen even though everyone talks like it is actively going on

Which probably means that stuff just got cut due to time

[finite needle]

I'll be frank I don't give a single flying fuck about a life, just gimme more stuff to do.

when I went to rostok and saw the Duty boi just go full suicidal inside the bar and getting clapped I was hoping for more faction based content to open up but alas, nothing of the sort. You get a couple more secondary quests and that's it, main story until the end of days.

[outer depot]

Definitely space, desire, and need for expansion

Good problem to have tbh though: “Yeah okay, more?”

They’ve got this gigantofuck map and I hope they use it

The fact the entire fucking X-12 lab is still ingame and it wasn’t just bodily removed from the map makes me hope they plan on restoring the duty questlines at least

[finite needle]

To be fair, yes. Game has insane sandbox potential, open world was definitely the best way to go, too bad a lot of it is definitely wasted. Now, I don't really want every corner to have something interesting (all in all the south of the zone should be almost completely plundered), but some more stuff to do in regard to like Freedom, Duty, maybe even scientists, some secondary storylines, the hunters being actually integrtated in the game instead of being a secondary quest throwaway "faction" or profession or whatever etc

[outer depot]

I’d like some more stuff in the Swamp but the swamp always sort of sucked even if I liked the suck

[finite needle]

Swapm is fine as a throwaway place imho, like it feels like you're supposed to go there once and never go back like SIRCAA

It's the rest that is pretty empty, if you exclude some special stash and that kind of sshit

[outer depot]

I do feel like there needs to be some kind of hub zone for the southwest

That area is fucking huge with a lot of points to visit and anomalies to farm but like

Nearest trader is 2km away because of the river

Even just a mini loner zone in the southern Duga similar to the trader and guide outside of chemical plant would make it way easier to trek and explore

[ripe hollow]

Or a fucking functioning bridge

Seriously, is there any reason why they're cut by the river?

[wise zinc]

its to do with unreal im pretty sure
if you want to change one file you have to rebuild the entire thing and upload that

doesnt seem like theres much gamma talk in here so i cant bring back this from my schizodays (like a month ago)

[warped monolith]

[wise zinc]

shit the gmaes 2 month old already

[outer depot]

I’m 220 hrs deep lmao

[wise zinc]

i did 1.5 playthroughs and then burnt out cause all i did was play S2 for 3 weeks straight

still having a 10 second cool down is killing me

[outer depot]

I’ve basically been working my full time job and then coming home and playing stalker until I go to sleep plus all weekend, repeat

Not healthy

But very fun

Plus I want to find all the documents and stuff which takes a lot of searching

[sour totem]

bloodsucker overhead hitbox using grenade hitbox

[finite needle]

Bloodsucker sublimating into red mist as soon as I get my sweaty hands into a semi auto shotgun

I played Stalker 2 for like a straight week during a sick leave and now I kinda find it hard to get back into the rhytm again, doesn't help I've been playing every boomer shooter known to man in the free time and now everything looks slow as hell

[cloud wasp]

hi

[ripe hollow]

Well, i mean more of the stuff like Doctors diaries , or at least things like Maslina's mini-quest and unique weapon at cordon. Not the "stalker poopoo killed stalker peepee and stashed bottle of vodka here".

[finite needle]

I wish I could stumbe into free bottles of vodkas irl

[golden hazel]

Imagine we have to go back there in the dlc and there's a chimera and a pseudogiant on the way back to the base with more glass anomalies on the way there

[finite needle]

I wouldn't put it beyond them, considering what they did to bloodsucker village

[golden hazel]

Clear Sky Base, did you mean Bloodsucker Village?

Five. Hundred. Bloodsuckers.

[finite needle]

I really don't linger too much into the CS base, the swamp is a silly place for silly people

But I did venture into the old army warehouse because nostalgia, and I found out that the population of the titular Bloodsucker Village is exactly 0 bloodsuckers. But, there's Pseudo Giants there now. Plural.

[golden hazel]

Classic GSC

[outer depot]

All the bloodsuckers moved about 100 yards to the nearby bunker

[prime stratus]

Do you guys think GSC will drop the next update when Nividia releases the new drivers with DLSS 4?

[ripe hollow]

Five days till the next patch? Doubt

[trim totem]

hopefully that new patch is massive

[prime stratus]

Patch is out

My wife literally just told me. It's on Steam now.

13 gigabytes

[trim totem]

i love this game but ik it can be better

[golden hazel]

[bitter fulcrum]

oh hay guys

[wintry mountain]

Invited over for a BBQ

[random heath]

stabbed rats are bigger than alive rats

[wintry mountain]

That's what happens dead things bloat. Those are rat balloons on a stick

[random heath]

decay sure works fast in the zone

[bitter fulcrum]

erm arnt the servo arms supposed to be.. attached to the arms

?

[warped monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-octopus-gif-24092534

[median swan]

stalker 2 is made according to the tod howard principle - it just works)))

[golden hazel]

Stalker 2 was an inside job by Todd Howard

[median swan]

hehe

[bitter fulcrum]

lul

[median swan]

I wouldn't be surprised if gsc game world becomes part of Bethesda Game Studios ahahahahhahahaha

[chrome sequoia]

does anyone know where the storage chest is in cement factory?

[lavish swift]

i was just installing the update for stalker 2 it was 13gb but the update failed then i cleared download cache and it turned into 100gb what is this

[grand egret]

Hi everybody. Quick question. Has a life system been fixed?

[peak eagle]

Next to the bed?

[glad socket]

So peeps...
Is rostok no longer absolute cancer to be in?

[chrome sequoia]

yeah sorry I blanked lol thank you

[warped monolith]

jury's still out on that one

[trim totem]

THEY FIXED THE MEMORY LEAK

]YEAHHH!!!!

[mint holly]

It's alot better for me fps wise, also no more freezing there

[teal jungle]

Gonna need an answer on this

[split crown]

oh boy, wondering if today's patch broke a buncha mods

[split crown]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[teal jungle]

Oof. Back on the shelf it goes, then

[split crown]

yeaaaaaah. What currently exists in-game is this: 2 random stalker squads occasionally spawn near the player, and they'll fight things out. Sometimes it'll be a group of mutants instead fighting a stalker squad, but that's about all you're gonna find going on as random scenarios in the zone.

[cunning stirrup]

I want more weapons

[golden hazel]

and all the new memory leaks it created

[split crown]

wait what

YOU'RE TELLING ME THEY CREATED EVEN MORE MEMORY LEAKS???

[golden hazel]

It happens every patch, I don't doubt this one will be any different

[split crown]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[teal jungle]

I'm reasonably confident it'll get fixed. I've got other games to play anyway

[golden hazel]

10 memory leaks in the game, 10 memory leaks, take one down patch it around, 53 memory leaks in the game

[viral field]

Just waiting for a gamma stalker 2 pack in 2028

[warped monolith]

wait about 49 more years

[golden hazel]

300% more eye adaptation for more realism

[split crown]

Unironically, yeah, I do want a massive gammafied STALKER 2 lmao. Probably won't happen for years though.

[proud ruin]

You aren’t playing it already?

[mint holly]

Honestly a think any sort of freeplay style mod wouldn't really be fun unless the world encounters and such become alot more dynamic and mutants have more behaviors and stuff. I enjoy the game as it is but I feel like that's in large part due to the narrative

[proud ruin]

I picked up a gun and it worked perfectly , I didn’t even have to grind for 30 hours for tier 2 tools to repair it

instantly uninstalled

[golden hazel]

[true yew]

Oh boy, theres a new patch?

[wintry mountain]

Don't know if it actually fixes anything, but seems to come with a 10-15 fps loss during sprint and the occasional lag spike. So things blur and slow down for fun

[outer depot]

meanwhile I got an extra 10-15 and fewer stutters

[wintry mountain]

Don't forget to submit feedback on any issues you ran into.

[true yew]

||Funny how doctor kinda hid to strelok that he was supposed to be part of the C-con||

[true yew]

Does it bricked any of the mods?

[brittle parrot]

Question for everyone, what can I possibly do to improve FPS on this game? 3090 with i9-9900k and game plays terribly

[trim iron]

Not sure what you've got going on. I'm playing on a 3080 with an i7 and it's not running great, but also not "terrible"

[brittle parrot]

It feel like maby 40fps at 1440p

And drops down to like 12 in Zalissya

[trim iron]

I'm getting 40 at 2560x1440. It sometimes drops to 35.

I'm playing on High with a good number of settings on Epic.

I'm also running from an SSD. Maybe try that?

12 sounds like you've got a problem somewhere. I never get that.

Update drivers and all that good stuff, and make sure not to run it on Epic. Maybe High and set only select settings to Epic. There's plenty of guides that should help you.

[brittle parrot]

Yea its on SSD. Wasent this bad at launch, not sure what's going on. Even optimized with Nvidia and changingung setting to lower dosent really change angthing

[trim iron]

Have you tried verifying your files?

You could also try this:
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/484
Although by the sounds of it, something's going on with your setup, but I don't know what it could be.

You can also try this: https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/535
But use v5.
v6.2 will reduce performance.

[trim totem]

i see so much dooming in this chat 😭

im jst glad the game can run for me

[west moth]

A true stalker finds solace in the eye of doom

[true yew]

What a normal pile of dirt

Omg it's john stalker

[tacit glacier]

||Imagine if they made that pile of dirt possible to phase through while walking to stumble upon the "paradise" house by sheer accident.||

[true yew]

||I wonder if I could throw myself over...||

Man, fuck that you can't "dodge" a pseudogiant's ground stomp

[hushed garden]

80 fps feels like 30 fps in this game, without frame gen it feels awful but then you'll have input lag which is equally as awful. Maybe there's mods that'll help but that defeats the purpose of how bad this game truly is

[finite needle]

Game does feel a bit sluggish after coming from like fucking mullet mad jack tbh, but I've not had any input lag at all. Last time someone had this kind of issues it was something with nvidia app fucking the framerate up

One day someone will make the game run decently though, just I don't think it will be GSC tbh.

[west moth]

2037: Stalker 2 GAMMA

[finite needle]

Same game, but enemies only spawn in group of 3 and you'll have at least 4 new mutant reskins with dog ai

[wintry mountain]

Not that I've noticed or heard

[west moth]

Big patch announced for February

Pig batch

[warped monolith]

Fig fatch announced bor pebruary

[peak eagle]

dig patch

[west moth]

[heavy hedge]

big patch announced to be not until february, can stalker players successfully finish the no meltdown january challenge

i now realize i typed the same thing several other people did but im not editing it sorry

[finite needle]

Can't wait to see how they fucked Zalissya this time

[wintry mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/stitch-funny-handstand-gif-5526847

Npcs have new mobility

[finite needle]

The Zalissya emission bug is majestic tbh, genuine slavjank moment

[wintry mountain]

The one that's get here before we lock you outside?

[finite needle]

Yeah, the one where eveyrone runs into the town hall, which is a sanctuary so they can't shoot themselves, but the doors are locked becasue monolith are alive, but the monolith are inside the sanctuary and thus can't be killed. Biblically accurate Limbo.

[wintry mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stuck-in-door-cat-gif-914805063408606222

[west moth]

One day we will have a life. We are all gonna make it

[golden hazel]

Five. Hundred. Memory Leaks.

[wintry mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/but-i-would-walk-500miles-himym-how-i-met-your-mother-gif-15323011

https://tenor.com/view/500miles-500more-singing-while-driving-joyride-gif-15084394

[warped monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhmMYjU3ZoQ

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/bandit-cheeki-breeki-stalker-gif-27140308

[west moth]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-duty-stalker-dance-gsc-gsc-gameworld-gif-22307630

[split crown]

good news: the new patch didn't break my game

[warped monolith]

excellent

[gusty blaze]

im sure this has probably been asked a lot already but how do i update to screen space shades 22 in gama? i reinstalled gama but my game doesn't look as good as the video on discord..

[split crown]

wrong channel

[proud ruin]

[golden hazel]

[west moth]

[proud ruin]

[misty cloud]

How is the game now bros? Is it a good time to jump in?

[proud ruin]

It’s alright

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-gif-20369672

[misty cloud]

A-Life works?

[proud ruin]

Not really

Feels like playing Farcry: Ukraine tbh

[misty cloud]

😦 guess I will wait until they figure it out

[misty cloud]

yeah, no interest in playing that

[proud ruin]

I doubt it will ever be like xray alife on UE5

[golden hazel]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[misty cloud]

How is that even possible though, I mean XRAY is single threaded ancient engine

[proud ruin]

15 years for new game
its UE5 slop

[golden hazel]

XRay was built around the mythical zone creation named A-Life

[proud ruin]

Zone magic

[golden hazel]

At least the lore is good

[proud ruin]

Dootyers in absolute shambles

[golden hazel]

Join Dyooty we have a gachi gym in the cement factory

[golden hazel]

Oh and the cutscenes too (When they work)

[proud ruin]

skeefa we must strip the zone of all copper wire!

Absolute peak writing

[golden hazel]

SKEEFA DE FACKIN WARDENS LOCKED ICARUS DOWN, THEYRE TRYING TO STOP ME FROM STEALING THEIR COPPER WIRE, WE HAVE TO NUKE ICARUS SKEEFA

[proud ruin]

me immediately after asking wishgranter for 1000kg of copper wire

[proud ruin]

They added women, my disappointment cannot be overstated

[golden hazel]

The Time I Was Kicked Out By The Commander Of The Monolith For Using The Wishgranter As A Copper Wire Generator To Acquire Infinite Currency For More Anomalous Crack

[proud ruin]

Otherwise known as How I learned to stop worrying and love the zone

[proud ruin]

monolith does not want to you to know this 1 simple trick!!!

[golden hazel]

[golden hazel]

Oops, all memory leaks

[proud ruin]

Don’t worry the memory leaks aren’t real they can’t hurt you

https://tenor.com/view/overheat-computer-explosion-boom-spark-gif-17323916

[golden hazel]

The memory leak in question:

[golden hazel]

I kinda wanna test the new patch to see how many new memory leaks they introduced

Nah, still gonna wait for the DLC

[ionic narwhal]

we dont even a base game yet

[golden hazel]

The lores there though and that's what matters to me

[proud ruin]

I want to see if duty gets cucked any harder

[golden hazel]

Considering they were losing their cement factory to bandits I don't think they can hit a lower low than that

Actually no they definitely can, if in the dlc they lose to the remaining forces of clear sky

Which seems to be also made up of bandits

[proud ruin]

Classic duty L

[golden hazel]

Deadly Anomalies, Dangerous Mutants, Monolith AND BANDITS! All of them will stop Deuty on its triumphant workout routine!

[misty cloud]

It would not be fun to be a woman in the zone

[true yew]

Duty became Doodie

[proud ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/its-all-bitcoin-bitcoin-always-has-been-space-man-rdbtc-gif-11335531130161074533

[wooden glade]

Next patch is bigger and stated to be around February, so not too long now 'till you got some opportunity 😂

[icy basin]

They should release a patch that discounts RTX 4070

[west moth]

[scarlet oxide]

Is there a working imgui dx12 hook for STALKER 2. The one Im using works on other games but is crashing with STALKER 2

[split plank]

That happens when I'm in Rostok.

[haughty sierra]

Ok rx 570 user

[halcyon obsidian]

Imagine a RTX 189466

[hearty magnet]

8gb vram because of the 66

rtx 18976 will have 128gb vram

still waiting for mod support

GSC PLS RELEASE A LIFE + mod support not some stupid bug fixes

if they fix all the bugs a life and mod support wont come before 2027

[west moth]

We will have Nvidia 7090 by then
And a life

[tacit glacier]

Somebody caught these credits

[clever glen]

A-life? More like get-a-life

[heavy hedge]

it was very funny yesterday seeing grok argue with mods on the official stalker server about stalker 2 ai

insane levels of cope from the mods over there, but then i guess thats to be expected

wonder how long it will take GSC to get to build 1.0

a little embarrassing to have your patches outpaced by gamma...

[warped monolith]

[west moth]

We won't get A-life, no B-life, we go straight to C-Consciousness

[wintry mountain]

Gotta link to them? haha 😄

I could use a good laugh for the day

[heavy hedge]

#1308034374473617459 message

this is where the conflict kinda starts lol, although there's some commentary from before then as well on the state of stalker 2

[raw sierra]

Srr but i try find someone from rebublic of kongo

I need that for project..

+if you are from kongo pls write me private

[wintry mountain]

Some of what Grok is describing early on here with Smart Terrain is in the game, but not finished. Definitely has jank to it.

[heavy hedge]

ya a lot of the disagreement was really just grok and the mod talking past each other

I think the mods there are in denial about just how much work there is that actually needs to be done though in order to bring it into any sort of parity with "classic" a-life

[wintry mountain]

Well what I know from ripping things apart. They're both right on various points. Most of their arguments are actually agreements, but they're viewing it differently.

Bascially communication issues

[heavy hedge]

Totally. my personal prediction is that it will fall somewhere in the middle. "old" a-life is probably not coming back by GSC's first-party hands alone, but I do expect to see big improvements in areas where it's possible to do so given the current (and technically outdated) UE5 build's limitations.

wherever they decide to draw the line on S2 is where the mod community will inevitably pick it up, and from there the sky is (sort of) the limit depending on how complete and intimate the SDK ends up being

[wintry mountain]

They already have the foundation to include contextual actions npc types. It's just not fully implimented. The blinddogs are an example of this when they do a sniff before going after something.

They have the basic triggers for scenarios currently but that can be made more specific.

[warped monolith]

[wintry mountain]

There are also alife lairs that dictate how the spawns will act. Whether it's aggresive/normal/defensive

A lot of the core systems Grok is talking about are there but unfinished

[heavy hedge]

Sure, the question in my mind is how much effort (read: money) is GSC willing to put into more fully fleshing those contextual actions and implementation, now that the game is technically a financial success. Particularly if it comes to a question of prioritization between "systems we WANTED to launch with, but ended up not, yet the game sold anyway" and something like DLC which they can actually charge more money for

It's less a question of technical limitation, and more a financial and strategic one

[warped monolith]

replace GSC with Microsoft in that first sentence

[heavy hedge]

That as well. It's still unclear exactly how much the contractual obligations to microsoft muddy the mix, especially regarding feature parity across platforms (another seriously crippling expectation, if extant and adhered to)

That's what I meant when I mentioned the technical limitations earlier mostly, regarding offline simulation, NPC AI, and similar on various consoles—which are pretty difficult barriers to overcome

At least, based on my current understanding of the limitations GSC has faced thus far, and the way other developers have talked about UE5

[wintry mountain]

These systems were working in old builds though limited. There's no reason they can't get them working again. One of the many reasons I have a feeling they lost that data and are doing salvage. It seems pretty clear they're getting outside help to even get it into this state.

They're rebuilding basic stuff that should have been done a long time ago. Collisions channels/profiles should not be the mess they're in if they had the old builds to pull from directly. Part of the performance issue is related to those being misconfigured or incomplete.

[warped monolith]

they shoul'dve postponed release a third time and leave it in the oven for an early 2025 release

but I suppose Microsoft were the ones who put the foot down

[heavy hedge]

I haven't dug around in the guts like you have so I'm hesitant to make any final judgements on the technical side of what's actually possible, what you're describing all seems legitimate to my unfamiliar eyes. from an outsider's perspective mostly all I can personally do is speculate future developments based on factors like microsoft's involvement, corporate decisions being made from a financial perspective, etc. I do hope GSC takes notes and inspiration from "no man's sky," "cyberpunk 2077" and similar but ultimately, businesses do run on money and it's obvious their hand was forced to release the game in the state it's currently in. Even with the best intentions, there is only so much time you can put into something out of love before the accounts run dry and you have to shift priorities

And ya, they need to play footsie with microsoft as well for sure

[primal needle]

me when scar ending

[heavy hedge]

Particularly on PC I don't think anything is (technically speaking) insurmountable, but if contractual obligations require XBOX a-life to work the same as PC a-life... that may be a stickier issue

It's weird how much people have noted are in the game files, just totally unimplemented

Or even stuff half in-game. What's the deal with the mutant trader bench/stall?

[cosmic gate]

Yes and no. GSC Game World is a private company. Any funding from Microsoft, or any other third party company, had to be given via a strict legal agreement that regulates everything related to the development, including the release date. Every third party company funding the game had to agree to all of the past release date changes. It's hard to blame Microsoft since they already agree on a lot of these.

[wicked adder]

Thats how forced out development goes

[wintry mountain]

The issue is the way they're doing the render bubble in my opinion. Alife should be viewable in a large radius(400m) only the lairs/hubs/quests should go online/offline closer than that. 40-60 alife isn't really taxing when it's spread out properly. The environment/collisions/texture optimization is killing the game currently.

contextual actions from 40-60 alife isn't going to add much to load

It's not like they need to simulate physics past 100-150m

[heavy hedge]

Interesting. What's your experience/perspective on the offline simulative framework currently in S2? Based on what I've read from several modders it seems that there is some structure for it, but that it (like many other things) simply is not implemented. Does that seem like a system that could function after being implemented for the entire zone map, even without the load barriers like old games had to reduce overhead?

[wintry mountain]

I had to jailbreak offline out of pause hell... that's where it's at haha

[warped monolith]

it's speculation of course, but I don't doubt MS just went "aight that's enough, no more delays"

[heavy hedge]

It's like two wonky connected issues that need to get ironed out separately, but also work so closely in tandem that you can't isolate them

between offline and the spawn bubble and UE physics calculations

[wintry mountain]

Basically vanilla is keep spawns close to render bubble and most of them happen at the edges so you wander into them. when things go offline they pause unless the game feels you intend to move towards them. This gives the appearence they were there all along

If you took the invisible curtain down they'd just be standing there. We accidently did this in 1.0.3

We turned on offline and 1.0.3 didn't have the curtain so we could see them stop at the edge.

Only realized what that meant after 1.1 was released

Then when we were looking to increae render bubble distance. I stumbled onto a section for blacklist/whitelist and redirected it to bad location. I thought perhaps that would give us render control back. Instead it took offline out of pause hell so they just wander about their business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJF3d4Ky0mo

[heavy hedge]

That's really cool, and a nice surprise frankly because I did not expect much of a fleshed framework for that at all based on the state of the rest of S2 at this point from a player perspective. This is totally tangential to the issue at hand, but I wonder how optimized the lighting is—if it were possible to free up resources there somehow for use elsewhere, and also ideally make dynamic lighting exist and not dogshit for at least the 2-3 important ones you'd encounter in the game

[wintry mountain]

I put them on nexus with a semi misleading title so it didn't draw too much attention. Figured word of mouth would get around eventually.
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1001

This stuff is built it's just not finished, like much of the game.

There were 50-60 quests that were already built not in release

[heavy hedge]

These links are really cool views into the guts of the mechanics on this stuff, thanks for this, the transparency is actually encouraging

[heavy hedge]

Well that explains the total lack of sidequests for half the map

[wintry mountain]

And whole areas, but rebuilding that would take lots of time and I think that's what we're really witnessing a rebuild. They were running out of money and had to release what was available.

[heavy hedge]

That totally makes sense, aligns perfectly

[wintry mountain]

Yes and we know they had some bad circumstances inbetween. War, leak(probably ransomeware) & Office fire.. That I wouldn't be surprised was arson. We're just stuck with the result of that just like they are.

[heavy hedge]

Any number of those would be a very likely source for the potential data loss you'd mentioned as well. And yeah. I'm sure I come across as fairly pessimistic but I'm mostly just trying to be realistic, I think it's a mistake to harbor ill will towards GSC as an entity but equally I don't consider it useful to praise GSC like a golden goose and lay everything on scapegoats instead of hoping for and expecting progress to be made towards the product's purported outline and features at release

Neither is a stance I've seen here I don't think, moreso on the official server

[wintry mountain]

Yeah I don't blame them at all, but I won't say this is a masterpiece and I doubt the devs would either

[heavy hedge]

Either GSC is a bunch of lazy slob shits who purposefully tricked people and took my money and ran or GSC is the pure virgin ravaged by the evils of the dark world we live in who did nothing wrong and the game is perfect the way it is

on the other hand, i think it's incredibly funny when the people here attribute these types of things to grok, a single frenchman hobbyist

over gamma

why did grok do this to me specifically to spite me fuck you grok

[wintry mountain]

I think the devs feel bad or we wouldn't be getting patches as fast. See Starfield for example of how to abandon a game.

[heavy hedge]

holy hell ya, virtual radio silence on that one. I think GSC is being very smart by being cautious about their actual communications regarding patches, their promised roadmap, and similar. It's always a huge mistake to over promise and under-deliver, not only regarding timelines for patches/hotfixes and similar but also content. Best to just shut up and work, and hopefully surprise people in a positive way

let the players stew and be asspained in and amongst themselves, keep it simple and focus

I have to think they'll probably wait on the SDK until they've gotten all the way through their DLC. I think people are hoping for it to drop after their critical fixes and essential reworks are finished, but it would be shooting yourself in the foot a bit to drop it before you've juiced people for what you can get out of them financially

Otherwise you run the risk of the community doing better than what you're doing first and destroying potential sales

So, like, 2030 lol

I'm not condoning that necessarily, but if I were GSC, I would absolutely charge people for DLC before I let them make their own from-scratch toys

[warped monolith]

not only that but the DLC releases are probably gonna break mods. If the SDK releases before DLCs it'll be a shot in the foot in multiple ways

[proud ruin]

wait 15 years for new game
its UE5 slop

[proud ruin]

Gamma 2 0.1 release 2050

[warped monolith]

I'm unsure if they were making the game for UE5 from the beginning, but it feels like they had to swap engines mid development and this is the result

[heavy hedge]

I suspect UE5 is the result of desperation on the development skill side, needing to work in an engine you could have newer devs with actual working skills in, not having the money or time to build your own engine, etc. as well as Unreal basically going around selling people early/incomplete/unstable/unoptimized UE5 builds like a snake oil salesman

"this will do everything for you! it will make it easy even!"

still, i wonder if they would have fared better with something like cryengine

or i guess unity or something

[warped monolith]

I've never seen an ambitious project do well in Unity. in my experience it's almost exclusively tailored for small-scale indie projects

[heavy hedge]

That's a reasonable point I think

[warped monolith]

CryEngine could've been a good choice, but I have no idea how that is going nowadays. I've never played Hunt Showdown

[heavy hedge]

I still think of stalker as "small" for some reason, despite the microsoft money

[warped monolith]

other than that... idunno. No idea how idtech is doing nowadays without John Carmack's magic

I know Doom Eternal is a superbly well-optimized game, but it's not an open-world game with background AI simulation, so... no clue how it would perform with those systems

[heavy hedge]

I think kingdom come deliverance is cryengine

[proud ruin]

I wish… for stalker 2 on xray!

[heavy hedge]

That's a pretty well rounded open world sim, afaict

[heavy hedge]

carmack still owes me megasuperdupertextures or whatever the fuck from rage 1

[warped monolith]

true, there's that one. Also I should replay it on my current pc.

[heavy hedge]

theyre still loading. where are my textures carmack huh? HUH?

[warped monolith]

Megatextures? They're there They're also in Enemy Territory Quake Wars

[heavy hedge]

[warped monolith]

ETQW was extremely underrated. Doesn't help that they went with the dumbass approach of calling it a "battlefield killer"

[heavy hedge]

WHY DOES IT LOOK LIKE A PILE OF MUD THEN CARMACK HUH?

[west moth]

I am telling you we will get A-life before Stalker 3

[warped monolith]

hopefully before GTA6 as well

[heavy hedge]

definitely before ES6, not that youd even want to play it anyway

[warped monolith]

I would, if only just to witness the shitshow

[west moth]

Star Citizen will have A-Life, trust me, Stalker Bros

[warped monolith]

I'm only mildly interested in Star Citizen's single-player story mode, and there's been a recent trailer for that

[chilly ore]

I can't help but think that the way this game turned out is just sad 😔

[warped monolith]

yeah. The potential is clearly visible but the game just doesn't quite reach it

[chilly ore]

It's slop, no depth, almost everything is badly implemented/executed (except for story, raw graphics and general character related stuff)

It's just sad

5700X can barely run the game at 40fps in the garbage's little town area

and it's ghosting galore

[proud ruin]

It’s very disappointing

[west moth]

But this gameplaydemo of sq 42 is impressive, say what you want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-0x4xk2Xk

[warped monolith]

[west moth]

Like a decent scifi movie, and it has Gillian Anderson in it

[chilly ore]

Feels like a playable cutscene

[warped monolith]

and Mark Hamill

[west moth]

It's supposed the first hour of this squadron 42 thing and i like what i see tbh

Might even get released

[warped monolith]

is this Gary Oldman

[wintry mountain]

I would like some Freespace/Descent 1,2,3 combat please....

[west moth]

god yes

[wintry mountain]

I miss my clan days in D3.. Fun community

[west moth]

everspace 2 wasnt too bad tbh

But yeah, that era was special

Even tho i havent tried Elite Dangerous

[wintry mountain]

If it wasn't for interplay and parallax squabbling about the rights we might have had a proper successor and that ip would still be around thriving...

[warped monolith]

this guy also looks familiar

[warped monolith]

STFU is still in dev hell, right?

[west moth]

But other than that, the golden age of space combat sims hasnt returned yet

[warped monolith]

Everspace 2 is great, but it's more Freelancer than Descent

[west moth]

I was disappointed the Aqanox remake became such shit

How did we have so many great games back in the day

[golden hazel]

Nah we're gonna get A-Life 3.0 in Stalker 3 before A-Life 2.0(It's gonna be paid dlc)

[west moth]

A-life as a service. 30 bucks per month

[golden hazel]

[wintry mountain]

Looks like the answer is yes. haha
https://steamcommunity.com/app/971850/discussions/0/4635988976587598501/

[west moth]

Today we have incredible graphics and meh games

[heavy hedge]

no, that's Gary Old Man

[golden hazel]

Reznov?

[heavy hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/beetlejuice-confused-howard-stern-baffled-stumped-gif-12493240240982843165

[midnight wind]

Did you guys see this ? https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1179

Stalker Desolation, but it’s actually good ? /s

[golden hazel]

I read the bleeding part and got flashbacks to Clear Sky

[mint holly]

[warped monolith]

FOR YOU MASON, NOT FOR ME

[chilly ore]

damn, this actually looks nice

I'm lucky to have looked here at the right time

[warped monolith]

Bleeding now drains your health faster and the medicine costs much more.

yay the Miseryfication of cbt has begun

[golden hazel]

Dont forget the trillion filler items part Morbius

[warped monolith]

of course

[heavy hedge]

Here's what they have to say regarding filler items (FAQ):
The inventory bloat with useless items is mindnumbing! As a Project Zomboid player I actually enjoy variations even of mostly useless items that can be found around in containers or on npcs, making them feel more alive, adding personality to them, so sorry to say but this is one of the core points of the mod which will keep getting bigger, not less.

[warped monolith]

idiocy

[heavy hedge]

[golden hazel]

[warped monolith]

part of the reason why I don't mod games nowadays is because most of these mods add one or two good things
while adding 30 awful things

and I cba to learn how to pick apart modpacks to keep what I want and get rid of what I don't

and unfortunately most of these mods are all packaged into one thing so I can't just... delete one file to get rid of one feature I dislike
I'd have to unpack the whole mod and find the feature, remove it and then re-pack the mod

[heavy hedge]

yea, a lot of hassle for very little game

or even gain

especially before hotfixes and patches have basically been completed though, is just insane imo

[golden hazel]

Some forgiveness can be given if Scar drops copper wire and crack

[heavy hedge]

that would just be fixing an obvious developer oversight, clearly based on the lore this should already be ingame

[golden hazel]

[proud ruin]

[warped monolith]

there are only two relevant mods, and one of them already exists

laughing cat death screen
and
replace ||strelok|| with placeholder trailer (still pending)

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker2-explaining-gif-25555840

[warped monolith]

the start of this clip is so damn funny because he looks like a complete moron
dumb-founded look on his face, mouth open, almost doesn't blink

[heavy hedge]

mfw im about to get u

[golden hazel]

He has the song from the radio station meme playing the entire time

[heavy hedge]

mf after i get u

[warped monolith]

bro squints harder than Clint Eastwood

also in this snip he looks like the Hulk from the 60s TV show. Minus the hair.

[golden hazel]

Skeefa, you won't like me when I'm ANGRY

[warped monolith]

can't wait for the DLCs to add new characters so we can see their silly faces

[golden hazel]

Kalancha being a goofball with his 5head

Can't wait to see this peak fiction

[midnight wind]

Yeah tbh I’m not a fan of everything that I see. 200 new items to just have copy pasted currency stuff is weird. Just make NPCs have roubles. But I didn’t try it so I cannot say.

[warped monolith]

uh why does that remind me of Lance Henriksen

is it just my brain playing tricks on me because I watched Aliens last night

(RIP Bill Paxton btw)

[golden hazel]

That's another movie I have not seen

[midnight wind]

Ouch, not for me

I already had a hard time making any item in gamma somewhat useful

I can understand high item diversity if they just result in parts needed for crafting

But having boot red, boot blue, boot green etc just so that inventory management is just hell is simply bad game design imo especially considering the awful stalker 2 inventory

[warped monolith]

also especially when you can't even wear the colored boots and they're just fluff/trash to sell at vendors

[midnight wind]

Yup yup

Anyway back to gamma

[golden hazel]

mfw I can't wear the soggy jordans I found for the 100th time 20 minutes into a playthrough

[proud ruin]

unplayable

[proud ruin]

no women mod is the most relevant one

[golden hazel]

[golden hazel]

Rip Degtyarev's #1 Simp

[proud ruin]

Mfw I caught a whiff of that female trader in rostok (essence of armpit)

[golden hazel]

I dont even remember that trader's name ngl

[heavy hedge]

birch

everyone askin for a nude mod when we still aint even got a nude mod for sid yet

[golden hazel]

That would be a massive mod

[warped monolith]

nude mod for bloods... wait they're already naked.

[proud ruin]

Romance sidorovich mod when

[golden hazel]

We would need UE6 for that probably

[proud ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-my-reaction-my-honest-reaction-meme-my-reaction-to-that-information-reaction-gif-14670636402905757665

[heavy zenith]

Is stalker 2 in current state worth the money?

[golden hazel]

How much does it cost

[heavy zenith]

Like on sale

[golden hazel]

If it's on sale for like 20-30 dollars I'd say it's worth

[proud ruin]

It’s goty

[heavy zenith]

Simlair to the other games?

I hope it's better than clear sky without patches

[golden hazel]

It's shadow of chernobyl 2 basically

[heavy zenith]

You think there are some innovations from mods?

[golden hazel]

I don't use em

[tough prairie]

Guys can someone whithtout trololo tell me what is current state of Stalker2? AI Life and AI spawns ( which were 10meters behind at release) are they all fixed, and game is enjoyable?

[golden hazel]

[heavy hedge]

and boy their vanilla bootys are poppin

dang, bloodsuckers look like THAT???!!!

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-aoogah-awoogah-awooga-love-gif-19805850

[west moth]

[outer depot]

Stalker 2 is absolutely worth buying imo, it’s definitely better than at release though granted I somehow dodged most of the issues people were having then too

Vanilla can still get a bit frustrating due to enemy scaling (lol everyone turns into heavy armor or exos post-SIRCAA) and the spawn system but it’s still really fun. Ending is a little rushed and might be a slog depending how geared you are for it, but honestly at least there’s actual payoff unlike CoP and it doesn’t bug out like CS.

Spiritually it’s far closer to SoC

[heavy hedge]

I would describe it as "worth the cash, but with lots and lots of room for improvement"

If you're on the fence about it and $60 or however much you plan on spending in whatever currency is an amount that is significant to you (it really should be regardless of what sort of budget you have, but I digress), then my advice would just be... wait.

[outer depot]

IMO it’s definitely the best Stalker launch lmfao

[heavy hedge]

Wait for patches to progress, wait for DLC to drop, wait for sale to happen, etc.

[outer depot]

As in it actually sort of worked even if it also broke a lot initially

[heavy hedge]

Yea, it's hardly the most disastrous launch GSC has had

[outer depot]

I remember what launch SoC and CS were like

Oh those were the days

We have such sights to show you

[heavy hedge]

to complicate matters for me at that time, my computer could barely even run SoC

[outer depot]

Same lmao

The bones are here, I’m like 60% satisfied with the gameplay and the story is very worthwhile

A slew of the currently available mods can bump that to ~75% satisfied and I’m hoping more AI revisions are on the table plus some more general performance improvements

[heavy hedge]

I honestly expect to see a lot more systems implemented and expanded upon by GSC before we really have to start relying on modders to round out the game, too

[golden hazel]

At least SoC of Chernobyl didn't have the eye bleeding technology called Lumen

[outer depot]

Ye

[outer depot]

SoC would just continuously kill itself instead

[heavy hedge]

funnily, while I actually like the S2 story myself and appreciate what they've expanded upon and revised lore-wise to make the universe a little more 'open ended' for future storytelling, the moderators on the official GSC server are, ironically, pretty upset with the S2 story lol

[outer depot]

Oh it’s the most coherent and developed anything stalker plot related has ever been

By a fucking mile

I’ll be real I love all three OG but the story in each game is a fucking joke

[heavy hedge]

god fuck the dogshit flashlight is the worst crime S2 has committed by far, I am certain it's a temporary disability due to some bizarre technical limitation they ran into during optimization passes or something but holy fuck, it's genuinely absolutely awful, the worst possible flashlight design which is where like 60% of the atmosphere in stalker comes from

[outer depot]

Yeah flashlight shadow casting was one of the first mods I got and thank god for the NVG mod dude

[heavy hedge]

I have never, ever considered Stalker to be on some kind of storytelling pedestal, through the entire trilogy the story has always been a paper thin veneer that gives me an excuse to play with the fun world and game mechanics. S2 is the first stalker game where it's the story, not the gameplay itself so much, that kept me pushing forward (especially my first playthrough before even the first A-life patch, where the world was basically utterly dead and boring)

[outer depot]

UE5 can do such incredible dynamic flashlight/lighting sources and it’s just all turned off entirely for this dinky little pen light

[heavy hedge]

The fact that some people hold SoC up to be some kind of narrative masterclass and S2 is "bad storytelling, ruined characters, muh lore" is just bizzarre to me. Some of these people were barely even characters

[golden hazel]

Me picking up the pdas and notes around the map to find out more lore
Me having to actually play the game

[heavy hedge]

Even ones that showed up in every game, at least via mention in pda

[outer depot]

Yeah the story is actually great, hands down one of my favorite in recent memory

And yeah that’s the weird thing I wasn’t expecting

They didn’t fucking forget seemingly anyone

Though I was a bit sad I had to kill Hog

Hog was sort of a bro in CS

[heavy hedge]

i still chuckle every time i think about the beard + sultan romance side quest

[warped monolith]

well, I didn't have the issues most people had because I stopped playing before they would've occurred

[golden hazel]

Such is life of a Merc

[outer depot]

Me 200hrs deep and only sort of finally having all the documents and recordings

[golden hazel]

I found out on my 2nd playthrough that there was a bug that made it so that items wouldn't spawn where they should

[outer depot]

So much of this shit is just hidden in plain sight

I completely missed the Lebedev C-Con conversation record in the basement next to Faust on two separate runs

Because it just looked like a random report book

[golden hazel]

[heavy hedge]

ermmmmm the stalker 2 story is bad because um ermmmmm it contradicts intentionally vague throwaway pda note #346 in clear sky, the shittiest game in the trilogy that itself retcons shit anyway, so

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-giga-chad-gigachad-chad-gif-1859091460972555542

[outer depot]

Oh no I can’t believe Clear Sky was actually working with CCON all along this is such a retcon <- people who apparently never fucking found the X8 documents in CoP

[golden hazel]

When the former C-Con members have something to do with the C-Con

[outer depot]

When the literal like

Members of the C-Con science team

MIGHT JUST still be dealing with the C-Con

[golden hazel]

Even before the reveal it was sus as fuck that they immediately were like "Erm someone must be trying to get to the center of the zone, it's making the zone angry"

[heavy hedge]

I'm very curious about what specific type of framework they'll be using with the DLCs

We have ideas about areas of the zone they're going to be using of course, but in terms of content I'm very curious to see what they cook up

[outer depot]

I mean the fact X12 is still just sitting under cooling towers makes me think Duty will gets its questlines restored at some point

That’s a huge unused asset to just leave in place otherwise

Then there’s Iron Forest and CNPP being modeled but inaccessible

Plus Limansk

(Not modeled, just referenced a few times)

If I had to bet there might be an expansion of the faction war between freedom and duty with related quests and probably filling out the two incomplete zones

Just because it’s easy and there’s already a lot of work still ingame left over relating to the stuff that got cut

[golden hazel]

My theory is that Clear Sky is in Limansk doing science and shit, they've been hiring bandits to help cover them while they fetch things from places like the factory in Zaton

[outer depot]

I mean probably

[heavy hedge]

cement plant is such a great duty base in s2 too

[outer depot]

I’m sure someone survived but the question remains how many and who

Probably not Lebedev

Pretty sure he got truth nuked with most of the grunts

[golden hazel]

Kalancha's definitely still alive

[outer depot]

Yep

There’s always Nimble but he’s been pretty done with CS since… well, CS

[golden hazel]

Another weird thing is the disappearance of Sahkarov, but honestly he could've just died of old age or retired, but there's no reference to that anywhere in the game so there must be a reason he's gone

[outer depot]

Absence of proof of death or mention by Stalker 2 standards does seem to imply something is planned

Just because of how many people they do directly reference, even completely insignificant stalkers

[heavy hedge]

through the trilogy and now S2, nimble has proven his namesake at this point

[outer depot]

Also yeah cement factory is a neat duty base

[golden hazel]

Imagine Sahkarov is the new leader of Clear Sky, talking to himself, plotting, scorching more loner brains.

[outer depot]

There is the doctor for malachite who wants to switch the scorcher back on just to see what it does lmao

[random heath]

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's not used. It's more effort to remove something than to leave it there unfinished

[outer depot]

Or was it the miracle machine, I need to talk to him again

[outer depot]

It’s a pretty fucking big asset though

And it’s invisible from above, the entrance still exists but it’s blocked without cheats

[golden hazel]

Malachite is at the brain scorcher so probably the brain scorcher

[outer depot]

Yeah though one of the quests had you go up to Yantar to pick up psi radiation readings so I just forget which one he said

[golden hazel]

Actually now that I think about it, the only real documentation of the miracle machine was by Sahkarov, and his disappearance could actually mean something sinister with the weird transmission coming from Limansk

Brain Scorcher 2 Electric Boogaloo confirmed?

[random heath]

He's referenced in one document in one of the labs, so they didn't forget about him at least. Is there a single scientist in the zone that wasn't part of the x-project in some way?

[outer depot]

Also I was kinda hoping I could get back into the Brain scorcher just to see the place littered with old monolithian skeletons like the Agroprom underground is with old bandits Strelok killed in SoC

[golden hazel]

The document that references him that's from the 1960's?

[outer depot]

Yeah it’s an old one so I’m not sure how much it applies to him currently

[random heath]

Yeah, but it suggests to me that him not being in the game as it is is a deliberate choice

[golden hazel]

Yeah that's what I was thinking

[outer depot]

Also considering the X-Lab network failing really just in effect meant the research got more and more dispersed essentially among the various ongoing science missions or secret MDST programs, it makes sense most of the senior scientists in the area are tied in somehow

[random heath]

I thought Clear Sky was shady af what with their leadership all being ex-X-project guys, but it turns out they were just the most honest- or the worst at keeping secrets

[outer depot]

The latter lmao

Literally got brain blasted by the C-Con as collateral while trying to stop Strelok on orders from the C-Con

[reef egret]

@devout spire better hop here for S2 chat

[outer depot]

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[random heath]

No-one in the zone can resist the siren call of the dogshit ending sequence

[outer depot]

Which, granted, why the fuck did we have to fight the fucking Monolith on the way

C-Con could have literally told them to fuck off lmao

[golden hazel]

Yeah lmao

[outer depot]

SCAR IS YOUR AGENT YOU MONGS

YOUR COWORKERS ARE TRYING TO SAVE YOU ON YOUR ORDERS

[random heath]

I don't remember Clear Sky being told to do it by C-Con. But it's been a long time (like, og release long) since I played CS

[outer depot]

Tbf it’s a retcon

[golden hazel]

Yup

[outer depot]

But it is funny in hindsight knowing that now

[outer depot]

C-Con basically

Yeah that one ☝️

[golden hazel]

So then we sent the clear sky team this agent, then we teamkilled the fuck out of them, funniest shit we've ever done

[random heath]

Can't wait to see what conspiracies will get added to Clear Sky in the DLC

[outer depot]

It isn’t even a conspiracy at this point literally just more X-Lab projects under the auspices of MDST

[warped monolith]

vd = dalin?

[outer depot]

Yeah, the elder Dalin

[golden hazel]

Papa Dalin

[random heath]

Like clear sky were, like, moderately shady in CS and now they're tied in to so much shit

[outer depot]

Quite literally an extension of C-Con forces tbh

ofc the grunts didn’t know that

[golden hazel]

[outer depot]

They say as much ingame too

We don’t know shit we just do as we’re told and help scientists

While being the most dripped out motherfuckers in the swamp

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-somebody-toilet-hi-gif-17332899

[random heath]

not like there's stiff competition for that though

there's what, one army squad and some tutorial bandits aside from CS

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker-tv-stalker-build-tv-stalker-build-build-gif-3756457842748169719

[outer depot]

I really like how the CS armors look

[random heath]

I got a Clear Sky patch on my IRL backpack. Love them swampy lads

[outer depot]

Me when I’m working for shady scientists connected with the zones creation. At least they’re paying me.

gets turned into Monolith

[golden hazel]

Average Merc working for Clear Sky

[random heath]

No worries I'll just join Noontide now. What are the chances of my faction being wiped out again?

[outer depot]

Now the Deggy corps are the most dripped out dudes in the Zone

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-clear-sky-game-soldier-gif-22616292

[outer depot]

Though genuinely IPSF has a good look too

They just basically don’t feature outside of Malachite or Duga

[golden hazel]

I saw "IPSF" and immediately thought you were talking about sunscreen

[heavy hedge]

sunscreen is definitely more effective protection tbh

lasts longer too

[undone summit]

I've never seen that animation before, damn
When does that play?

[golden hazel]

I wanna say at the end of Clear Sky when the emission happens

[mint holly]

I've seen multiple people really mad at the clear sky stuff and I genuinely don't get it, like they act as if it's some giant lore breaking rewrite

[late kernel]

Too much gamma

[wicked adder]

Que?

[mint holly]

Uh, es un spoiler, lo siento

[wicked adder]

There isn’t a clear sky retcon in stalker 2 dawg

[golden hazel]

[mint holly]

Uh

Yeah sure

[outer depot]

honestly would class it more as a conceptual expansion than a rewrite yeah, what with the stuff we've had on them literally since CoP

[mint holly]

Well it's a new entry that recontextualizes clear sky and alot of past events. That's a retcon

[outer depot]

true, I guess it just wasn't much of a logical jump to me from the X8 documents

was kinda more like "oh, yeah that makes sense"

[split crown]

SOME

[golden hazel]

BODY

[warped monolith]

people call me the space cowboy

[celest imp]

[wooden glade]

Have anyone else noticed this in game? Just curious since I see CGR mentioning this

[noble talon]

DLLS4 is a must

[outer depot]

NOD mod updated to have ingame sliders for visual adjustment and making the fucking noise when you turn them on less ear splitting

thank god

[split crown]

any idea when NVIDIA is handing this out in an update?

[split crown]

yeah this mod is super cool. Been using it for a few days now.

[outer depot]

yeah it's great

glad he fixed the excessive bloom

[hollow juniper]

@wicked adder the ashangley?

[paper spindle]

hi, is anyone using the clearer anti aliasing mod? it makes the graphics looks sharper and it even makes the frame generation input lag almost negligible

[slender bloom]

FOR CHRIST SAKE HERE?????

[mint holly]

[ripe hollow]

Is there a mod that removes 10 markers limit?

[proud ruin]

[west moth]

[ripe hollow]

What's the NOD mod? I can't google anything related

Also, it seems i fiddled with my optimization too much and accidentally deleted dlss from my game
Can someone give me original dll files?

[kindred rune]

how's the game Performance And visuals after the latest update i haven't played the game in a while .

[outer depot]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1180

Thank me later

[proven fable]

Haven't followed Gamma for a bit: I'm going to assume there might be plans for a Gamma pack for Stalker 2, but is there anywhere I could find news/updates on this?

[icy basin]

!gamma2

[fallen iron]

Concerning GAMMA 2: check this > #📢announcements message

[icy basin]

TL;DR: Not even planned, Grok hated the game and abandoned it, etc etc

[proven fable]

Thanks mate. Sad to hear, but reading up on the announcement, understandable!

[west moth]

Might be worth to check again in 5 - 15 years

[proven fable]

Might just redownload gamma instead of waiting 😄

[west moth]

There are some mods out there already including at least one bigger mod, Grok posted it here yesterday. But realistically we will have to wait for GSC to finish the game, release the DLCs and possible multiplayer, release the modding tools and then wait for an appropriate time to get anything like gamma for S2

[proven fable]

thanks for the headsup man, really appreciate it (:

[mint holly]

Should be today in an update for the nvidia app

[split crown]

Sweet, looking forward to it.

[heavy hedge]

new driver just dropped via nvidia app, if you felt like forcing DLSS4 but didn't feel like messing with .dlls'

[outer depot]

Dudes like “Where Gamma” two months after a game comes out

[warped monolith]

Did you miss the people asking for gamma on the same day it came out?

[outer depot]

No I saw that too

It’s very silly

Granted Grok did also immediately begin dropping balance mods while jokingly calling it GAMMA 2

[warped monolith]

yeah the jokers who couldn't handle Veteran needed "balance mods" instead of just changing to Stalker difficulty

[split crown]

Yup, just downloaded and installed it. NVIDIA makes it seem like it's only available for their 50 series cards though lol. Hoping that isn't the case?

[heavy hedge]

DLSS4 also applies to the 4 and 3 series, it's just multi-frame generation that's restricted to the 5 series (and also certain functions like ray reconstruction or w/e are going to work less well on the 3 series for instance, in theory, based on my understanding)

[split crown]

Gotcha!

Time to see how much of a difference it makes with Stalker 2...

[heavy hedge]

People who forced it earlier via .dll have been saying the difference is pretty stark, but who knows

[split crown]

yea I was reading differing opinions online. Some people saying the visual quality is clearly better, but some people also getting like 10-15 less fps on average

[heavy hedge]

i usually just play with DLAA anyway and no frame gen so for me it's a

[severe cloak]

Assalamualaikum warah matullahi wabaraku guys

I want to ask can i run stalker 2 on rx 5700xt?

[jovial berry]

https://tenor.com/view/safe-neighbor-safe-in-the-kitchen-beatnik-safe-as-salamu-alaykum-salam-gif-21053235

[warped monolith]

Is now a good time to reinstall the game? were the more urgent issues fixed?

[wicked adder]

[hybrid lava]

are the npc's british? is that why they sound like that AND have yellow teeth?

[noble talon]

How

I want DLSS4 now

[split crown]

using the EN voices in-game

🤢

[split crown]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[toxic wave]

fr how

[hybrid lava]

how is that a problem

[split crown]

if you like them then it's whatever; however, to me the English voices sound horrible in Stalker 2.

[warped monolith]

so... let me rephrase
were the more urgent issues fixed?

[hybrid lava]

then no need to take your anger out on me

[split crown]

Anger?

[hybrid lava]

but what more could i expect from someone with a vtuber on their pfp

[split crown]

My brother in christ what are you talking about

Criticism=/=anger

[split crown]

The game functions at least, so it's something I guess

[mint holly]

people always act like that, or if you criticize something you must hate it

[split crown]

You can hate or dislike something without being angry about it

[mint holly]

update your nvidia app, stalker 2 will then be dlss4

[split crown]

byeah, I tried having the English voices on for a bit, but I couldn't vibe with what I was hearing. So it's been Ukrainian voices all the way for me.

[mint holly]

I like some english voices but skif kills it for me

[split crown]

Only downside is that sometimes the EN subtitles lag behind what's being spoken or sometimes don't show up at all

[split crown]

Fair enough

[mint holly]

I couldn't make it through the prologue listening to skif in english it was giving me atomic heart flashbacks

[warped monolith]

interestingly enough, Atomic Heart's english voices are just fine

[split crown]

maybe one day ill buy and play through Atomic Heart

[golden hazel]

English Scar is goated with the sauce

[warped monolith]

Troy Baker has caused irreversible damage to male protagonists in videogames

[golden hazel]

Just wait till one of the dlc characters is voiced by Chris Pratt

[heavy hedge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1idnt4i/megathread_nvidia_app_update_adds_dlss_4/

[noble talon]

Tried to update my drivers and nvidia APP and something went terribly wrong

It didn't work F

[white moat]

is game good yet

[split crown]

Well, after updating my drivers, my game's fps is back to just shitting itself. at least beforehand I could exit back to the main menu, and the fps would reset itself seemingly; now, however, the single digit fps follows me back to the main menu.

just can't fuckin' win with this game man

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker-tv-stalker-build-tv-stalker-build-build-gif-3756457842748169719

[split crown]

ok restarting my PC helped I think

[outer depot]

Try clearing your cache too

I ran into random mega framedrops and that cured it

[vale osprey]

What do yall think about the AI in Stalker 2?

[split crown]

bland and could be better

[vale osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF8qhltfiXU

Found this video on the hotfixes and next major update

No official date, but one of the devs said January/Feburary

[deep hedge]

S2 worth playin?

[short mantle]

Only you can decide that

[deep hedge]

Is it still broken?

[short mantle]

I mean I played through the story fairly fine and haven't had that many issues on my second run through, whether those are mod or engine related though can't say. There should be another big patch within a week, if you're still on the fence it might be worth waiting to check in on that

[deep hedge]

I see

[wanton arch]

who made this

[golden hazel]

[wanton arch]

whoever did let them know i agree

[golden hazel]

[warped monolith]

[obsidian heath]

https://medal.tv/games/s-t-a-l-k-e-r-2-heart-of-chornobyl/clips/j9yExuwSppuOjFLAL?invite=cr-MSxsbXAsMjIxOTE0MDA0LA

xD

[left pond]

patch 1.1.4 and my game still crashes in Rostok if I try to trade with NPCs one too many times
Need more patches 😔

[willow skiff]

a-life working yet? Haven't kept up to date with the game or updates

[golden hazel]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[balmy breach]

does anyone want to watch ratatouille with me?

[fading meadow]

I wish there is a mod with some old weapons… (PPsh,kar 98 moisin) …

[proud ruin]

[golden hazel]

[modest ether]

Seen that peanut guy all over my feed playing tarkov too he's hilarious

[west moth]

[vapid raven]

is stalker 2 in a decent enough state yet to buy do u guys think?

keep hearing things that put me off, like performance and bugs

[wicked adder]

Performance is essentially unchanged, bugs are case by case so it’s hard to say

Not everyone has the same level of bugged experience. Most of the bugs people noticed are atleast officially fixed

[round bronze]

Hi stalkers/es

[timid quail]

7 beers and still funny

[timid oyster]

eight one and you will cry

[west moth]

[woeful stag]

is there a mod or some weapon stat that reduces sway? sway is SO much in this game

like unrealistically high sway when ADSing lol

[tidal escarp]

hi, i have an issue. In smg viper i dont have any caliber only words : "tooltip_ammo etc." and when i take viper to slot and equip my game is crashing. any solutions ? i have installed mods

[wicked adder]

I have installed mods

I’m sure you don’t need me to tell you that’s probably what’s wrong

[outer depot]

It truly is regular stalker chat all over again

[tidal escarp]

like a lot, Realistic Weapons Stats,NPC Carry Attachments Stable Balanced,Maklane_Better_Weapons_Feeling_v2.7_P. these are mods that change things in weapons i think

[outer depot]

You probably have multiple mods attempting to change the same value in the weapons config

You’re just going to have to trial and error removing/adding them until you figure out which is conflicting with which

But it sounds to me that the culprit is NPC weapon attachments since I’ve heard other people had crashing issues with equipping picked up NPC guns with attachments using that mod

I’d start there

Make sure you get rid of any buggy NPC sourced weapons you’ve picked up first though, I’m not sure how they’ll interact with your save file if you try and remove the mod and then load up with one of the already bugged ones equipped/in inventory

[tidal escarp]

nice, thanks

[outer depot]

That’s just my best guess since as far as I know the other two are stable

[reef trellis]

@tidal escarp It's an unresolved conflict of two mods trying to change localisation.pak (description texts are part of the localisation.pak) that is causing your calibre texts to show up that way. Maybe give the unified localisation mod a look. If that doesn't help resolve the conflict, you can attempt merges via a different mod.
Localisation:
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/921
Merge:
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/326
Or:
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/413
As for what is causing the crashes - without error message that is nearly impossible to say but I'd guess its related to the same issue.

[hybrid lava]

fall damage in s2 reminds me of far cry fall damage

[warped monolith]

[west moth]

[tidal escarp]

it didnt help, but i know the issue, NPC Carry Attachments Balanced Rank Restricted is the problem. when im deactivating this mod current save is crashing so i think i have to play with this mod activated and with this bugs. i dont want to restart the gameplay so 😄 stay safe stalkers

[reef trellis]

well at least it validates my choice to stay away from the NPC Carry Attachments mod. it's still a damn dangerous mod - which is a shame.

[calm lynx]

anyone that has made a good NVG mod yet ?

[finite needle]

Yes, npcs only tho

[magic pewter]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1180

[split crown]

it's 100% correct

[split crown]

Jumped off a 10 foot tall cliff? Death

[west moth]

Thats because we have not a life

[split crown]

not a single one

[warped monolith]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[west moth]

Time to get a life

[quasi bough]

Freedom woman smoked so much crack her muscles disappeared

[hushed garden]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[split crown]

glad to see they're proudly representing Hip in Stalker 2

[quasi bough]

No they dont. where is the "Nu, što teper?"

[jolly rapids]

so dlss 3 is basically needed to play? 🥲

[wicked adder]

Nah. But if your shit isn’t modern, frame gen might help

[jolly rapids]

when i started playing back on release date (4070 and i7 14700fk) i wouldnt get more than 70 consistently

is it sitll like that or nah

[quasi bough]

Not really. but without temporal AA the game is crusty

[wicked adder]

[west moth]

[wicked adder]

Its unchanged, I told you

[quasi bough]

Dude, I have Ryzen 7 9800x3d and RTX 4070 and game jumps between 95fps to 60

Unreal engine 5 is SHITTIEST engine out there for open world games

[jolly rapids]

damn fr? it couldve been cause i was playing on hdd and it was more stuttering than anything

[quasi bough]

HDD would cause you stutters maybe, but not low fps

anyway why HDD in 2025?

[jolly rapids]

i've noticed lmao, i'm just holding out hope for tes6 not sucking ass cuz ive heard that its on unreal engine

[quasi bough]

Creation engine is also shit

[jolly rapids]

at the time i only had 500gb of ssd, but ive gotten a new one recently so ive just been trying to test out as many games i couldnt run before as possible

[quasi bough]

Well, yoi have answer now. Unreal Engine 5 has very poor optimization and it relies on DLSS and frame gen to fake it

[split crown]

tes6
you mean the game releasing sometime in 2030+?

[quasi bough]

Also relies on DLSS or other Temporal AA to fix its unbelievable lazy graphical programming. Without temporal AA, thw game foliage is flickery and whole game is crusty. Also shadows loose quality

And Nanite rendering shits itself.

Oh and Lumen lighting also completelly shit itself

Fucking dogshit engine and people regard it as standard the uneducated blind sheep

Unreal Engine was ever good only for arena shooters and small scale map games

[jolly rapids]

i don't think it's releasing that late, hype would've SIGNIFICANTLY died down by then. i don't think skyrim has another 5 years of modding in it's life time, unless you count the huge amount of nsfw brainrot being poured onto the nexus constantly

[wicked adder]

Stalker 2 should have been made on Crytech fr

[quasi bough]

DLSS 3 and other Temporal effects are also useless on Full HD monitors because they create ghosting and other blurry artifacts. You need at least 2k monitor to have dlss and TAA usable without image quality loss

[jolly rapids]

which engine does cyberpunk use? the optimisation on that game is great

[wicked adder]

Red engine

[quasi bough]

CSG did really only use UE5 to spare money. UE5 has all tools and rendering shits ready for you out of the box. Cryengine relies ON YOU to program it to be tailored for your game

[split crown]

yea I'm somewhat exaggerating, but it's crazy to think about how the first teaser trailer for tes6 is already 6 years old and Bethesda still has nothing to show of anything news related for the game lmao.

[wicked adder]

But they’re switching to unreal 5 going forward lol

So, cyberpunk 2 will be UE5

[quasi bough]

Its not. Game has LOD problems to solve fps jumping

[quasi bough]

Witcher 4 will be Ue5 as well as witcher 1 remake

[quasi bough]

spits

[jolly rapids]

genuinely so dumb, bethesda is a dying company like ubisoft. doubtful it'll last past 2035 if tes6 ends up sucking

[split crown]

I've seen/heard so many mixed opinions on UE5, but man just based on my own personal experience of playing STALKER 2 I'm truly not a fan of the engine.

[jolly rapids]

hopefully they optimise the engine more? i'm not an expert in engines but i'd imagine it would break a LOT of games

[split crown]

Agreed. Slopisoft is already in its death knell.

[wicked adder]

Bethesda is owned by Microsoft, I doubt it’ll fail now

[quasi bough]

Any UE4 and UE5 game has SAME problems but UE5 uses lazier tech to hide its lazy flaws in rendering

[wicked adder]

Even though their games kinda suck they also still make gorillions

[quasi bough]

Only rhing what made bethesda games glorious are bugs, sandboxy feel and insanely stupid writing

[split crown]

true

[jolly rapids]

i love the AC series it was so sad to see the downfall of such a great company. i wish companies weren't so tonedeaf on what real gamers want, like surely it can't be so hard to implement features that will benefit the game's immersion.

[quasi bough]

I could write you much better inganing main story and side quests on my knee than Bethesda's

[jolly rapids]

eh, i agree to to an extent, i still think the modern day skyrim experience is fun as hell, but oblivion will remain my favourite from the series

[quasi bough]

Good riddance. Honestly dont thin Ubisoft ends. Right now it looks like they are trying intentionally to lower their share value, as to Guillame family to buy all the shares to make Ubisoft Limited company again.

[jolly rapids]

i have high hopes for the new AC, i always enjoy games that aren't so hardcore sometimes but i just wish the writing wasn't so... bland

currently installing bg3 as i've heard good things

[quasi bough]

When I see that intentionally sluggish combat i just wanna cry

[jolly rapids]

i fucking HATED the newest rpg because of it, bought it on release day and refunded it almost immediately because of how much i despised the animations for everything

[quasi bough]

Unfortunatelly, I am history nut, therefore when I see valhalla I want to regard it as Illegal and take it away from market...not because of the story...but the botched architecture, clothing, CRINGY INTERPRETATION OF VIKINGS

[jolly rapids]

they royally fucked that game so bad. the quebec studio of ubisoft is one of the better ones and they're designing the new AC, AC Shadows and i'm following along with the news closely and it honestly looks pretty hype, especially the stealth assassiny part of the game as it doesn't look as bland as it used to

[quasi bough]

Okay youre gonna stream it for me then lol

[jolly rapids]

i'll hold you to that, it comes out in march time i believe and looks solid, but because it's ubisoft i expect bad animations (mouth ones ESPECIALLY) and shit like that

[jolly rapids]

also, i thought the architecture was pretty accurate i never realised they botched that shit too

[split crown]

It's as simple as this: instead of ubisoft creating "fun games," they continuously opt for trying to make "good games"

therefore all their current day games are garbage

[jolly rapids]

yeah i get that, but like cmon ubisoft, just implement a drink eat sleep and less dead looking AI and it'll make the game so much more immersive

developers just need to listen to their fanbases ig

[split crown]

Yup.

[quasi bough]

first and foremost they make them like cars in factories. By the book without creativity or time

[jolly rapids]

i agree with that so whole heartedly, developers do not put put their whole soul into games anymore (or higher ups force them to basically remake the same game every year) it's why rdr2 got so much

[quasi bough]

Well CDPR and rockstar games usually come one or two in one decade

so those games are usually great. Rockstart worked on rdr2 since 2011 and drowned about 500mil into in

[jolly rapids]

yeah cdpr and rockstar are the goats of todays generation of companies, i can't wait for gta 6 and the project orion thing from cdpr to drop

[quasi bough]

no, rockstar is SHIT company. they just have VERY talented dev team and good management decisions