╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[tall current]

"those who know:💀💀💀" - sun tzu

[rapid jolt]

First half of Knights of Sidonia hit me in similar feels to Muv-Luv.

[tall current]

i know none of these

[rapid jolt]

I didn't have as visceral a reaction to it though. Muv-Luv is like, dumb harem highschool setting rom-com into pure torment.

And it's a very, very slow turnaround

[calm charm]

I do too often

[tall current]

most recent anime i've watched was ederunners, got sad. read pun pun, then i was done with japanese media

[rapid jolt]

LMFAO

[calm charm]

watch your lie in april!

[rapid jolt]

Go read Nichijou or something

[calm charm]

its a cute story about music 🙂

[rapid jolt]

Nichijou is actually funny and I know nothing about Japanese humor.

[tall current]

yeah ill just watch some mindless happy anime if i feel like going back

[calm charm]

tbh fight anime are really fun

[tall current]

azumanga was really funny

[rapid jolt]

I still need to watch that...

It's in the same vein as Nichijou

[calm charm]

Bizi what do you use to read manga

[rapid jolt]

Paper. In my hands.

[tall current]

https://tenor.com/view/osaka-live-reaction-azumanga-azumanga-daioh-gif-25238398

[rapid jolt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tall current]

oh... shucks

[rapid jolt]

Haha beginner role embed fail :^)

https://tenor.com/view/osaka-spin-azumanga-gif-26496058

[tall current]

merry chrismasu

[calm charm]

you buy all the manga you read?

[rapid jolt]

Yeah. Even schlock like Elder Sister-Like One

[tall current]

azumanga is the best lobotomy experience

watamote is hilariously cringe

[rapid jolt]

I fucking go in person to buy shit like that too. The cashier can look me dead in the eyes while I buy the big booby ecchi manga and slap my wallet on the table in front of him

[tall current]

i just buy if i want to support a manga i like

[rapid jolt]

Dude has to glance at the camel toe and nipples poking through a leotard as he scans that shit for me.

[covert eagle]

(spoilers he likes it too)

[rapid jolt]

(If I looked like an actual stereotypical anime dweeb I would not be doing this)

[rapid jolt]

LMAOOOOO

[calm charm]

the leotard thing was a joke right?

[tall current]

anime tier plot twist

[rapid jolt]

No.

[calm charm]

interesting

[rapid jolt]

That's literally on the back of the copy I bought last from Barnes and Noble

I know it's a meme to look at Patrick Bateman behaviors and go "wow literally me" but I think this kind of manuever in particular is straying dangerously close to it

But I haven't heard shit about it so far. Dude just asks me what my favorite manga is lol

(He probably sees weirder be bought from there)

I still have a bunch of other screenshots I haven't posted here. I also found out you can get rid of the text when you're looking at an artifact by going idle and not touching anything for like, 10 or so seconds

[tall current]

nvidia overlay?

[rapid jolt]

Nope

[tall current]

also what settings is this on

[rapid jolt]

Turned off the hud in game and took it with steam

[rapid jolt]

Max everything. It was the default for me and the game runs at 60+ fps most of the time

[tall current]

dlss quality?

[calm charm]

wait whats the hotkey for that? turning HUD off? I looked and didn't see it

[rapid jolt]

(I don't have a 4090)

[rapid jolt]

It's in settings. A hotkey would be nice though

[tall current]

yeah pretty much the same on a 4080S

4k

[rapid jolt]

Yes.

Stalker 2 is mostly CPU bound as I've come to find out. People complaining about poor performance on a 4090 or high tier 30 series card fail to note their CPU.

[tall current]

all of my screenshots have the fucking HUD on goddamit

[rapid jolt]

My 4070, by their assessment, should be struggling. But I've got a 7800X3D on this bitch

So it runs fantastic

Bozo spotted.

[tall current]

yeah i have an i94900kf so it's never been an issue

[tall current]

cpu is a beast btw idk why people complain about it

[rapid jolt]

Intel.

[calm charm]

I was gonna say intel and you BEAT me!

yeah Intel fails in optimizing for some things, and are generally slow to fix it

[tall current]

i mean, it runs really well for me

[rapid jolt]

Among many other issues

Intel is not bad but their more recent shit is just.. a signficant waste of money for an "upgrade"

If you have an intel CPU that's good it's fine but trying to move on while keeping intel is a painful, expensive process with not a lot of raw gain

[tall current]

i do sometimes think that an amd cpu would've been a better choice but no use thinking about it

[rapid jolt]

Yeah. When your PC borks itself you can browse Gamers Nexus' charts and see what they've found is the general best

[calm charm]

fs, atp just get an AMD when you replace your CPU in 7 years lol

[tall current]

yep

as long as it run idc

[rapid jolt]

I wish I got a beefier GPU so I could do 4k but 1440p is still a massive upgrade over 1080. Especially having hz that's 240 instead of 60 lmfao

HDR is also sex (when the game works properly with it.) Stalker 2 is nice enough to have a really sweet HDR mode

(All the screenshots I've posted are with HDR)

Darkness just looks... right

[tall current]

nvidia is just for high end cards, i think if you want 4070 or lower wouldn't it be better to get an amd card

[rapid jolt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Dad gaslit me into getting a 4070 when my computer was still running a fucking 3700x. From 2019.

[tall current]

but yeah im dumb when it comes to this stuff

[rapid jolt]

The performance increase in CPUs over the last 5 years is quite staggering. And my new PC has only been around for less than 3 months. If I knew my PC would be this beefy in every other component I probably would've gone all the way for a 4080 Ti or just a plain ol 4090

[tall current]

is there a 4080 ti

[calm charm]

yes

[rapid jolt]

Maybe if the 50 series is truly mind bogglingly op I'll sell my 40 to someone with a mid end niche and mark it down from retail price just a bit

Will make someone's day for sure

[tall current]

nah that talk has been the same since forever

"bro, im telling you wait for the 70 series youll regret buying anything now"

[rapid jolt]

Omw to wait until the actual difference in the 80 series (I went from a bog standard 1080 to 4070)

If I just wait a few more generations it'll be worth it™️

[calm charm]

didn't Nvidia show that the 50 series will have it's own power cord?

[tall current]

nvidia yap

[rapid jolt]

Fuck if I know. It probably will to reach the stupid TDP they're making the cards go up to

[tall current]

wait for 5070 to be 1500€

[rapid jolt]

10% performance increase.

[tall current]

and can't even run ray tracing on new games

[rapid jolt]

Still needs extreme amounts of DLSS and FSR lol lmao :))))))))

Still has surprisingly low VRAM

[tall current]

yeah what's up with that jesus christ

why are they so low

[rapid jolt]

NVIDIA is hooked on the AI crack, please understand they forgot to insert a reasonable amount of VRAM

[tall current]

nvidia is just straight up spitting on our faces at this point, yet i still give in like a bitch, but i can't be blamed because i upgraded from a 2060

[rapid jolt]

Monopolies are usually destroyed by governments intentionally for this exact kind of reason

[calm charm]

unfort I don't think the US has it's sights anywhere near Nvidia

[rapid jolt]

For now I'd reckon

Amazon is the big fish to catch in that specific department

[final brook]

Is the scanner achievement working for anybody? Collected all of them and no dice

[covert eagle]

they dodged a lawsuit about this recently

[calm charm]

really? how'd they skirt it?

[maiden grove]

https://youtu.be/ZVFZPmrqIUY?feature=shared

[crystal thicket]

Erm is there a channel where i can ask for help with stalker 2 mods

[true yew]

resources or making?

[crystal thicket]

Resources im having bugs

[true yew]

Prolly this one https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1309520964782133328

Finally, the STALKER legend Boris is playing the game.
Can't wait for him to vodka-cool his dedicated setup

[bronze skiff]

The game keeps crashing on compiling shaders

ive tried verifying the files but that hasnt worked

[eternal oyster]

found a spot that apparently counts as emission cover

[wicked adder]

Thats where Scar left his Psi protection

[eternal oyster]

[bronze skiff]

Anyoine know how to fix?

[rose haven]

Emission covers are funny, like a solid garage/workshop with no holes and walls as think as stalin’s ego does nothing to protect me, crappy side cropping with a hole in the roof big enough that a bloodsucker could strangle me through absolutely safe

[true yew]

Finally, a spot where I can enjoy the scenery

[opal crater]

A box car with an open doorway and barely barred windows = safe
A freaking pig farm in Cordon or a gas station with closed doors and no windows = get fukt

[true yew]

Hoping for a No Man's Sky development arc for this game

[sage wolf]

anybody know where the key is for this door in rostok??

That lil door has been peaking my interest so much

So from the limited info I was able to cobble together, i think you get in here by asking barkeep for work and he has a chance to give you a quest to deal with some debtors, and he will give you a key to get in there mayhaps

[sage wolf]

I’ve found 4 compass artifacts but can never find the maximum rad resist one

[sage wolf]

assaulting duga and a spark dude is sitting here in a corner doing monolith head spins..... is this like a spoiler glitch or something or wtf XD

[wicked adder]

I think its just meant to represent Psi influence?

Like hes being Jimmy Neutron brain blasted rn

[true yew]

Got three liquid rocks, mostly unexpected

[true yew]

It's called foreshadowing

[sage wolf]

whats liquid rock do ive never got it

[true yew]

Max rad resistance and max chem protection
I have 4 lead containers, so I can only practically use one of them

[wicked adder]

Makes me wonder, are spark agents all meant to be like Scar, or are a majority recruited from free stalkers/volunteers from Freedom

[sage wolf]

also my objective was to kill faust and i didnt even have to fight him?? I was fighting random ward and mobolith and faust said something like "never should've come here" and then idk just fucking died?? now my objective is to retreat duga

[wicked adder]

Safe to say, you failed

[true yew]

Average first assault experience

[wicked adder]

It can be pretty unclear tbf

[sage wolf]

i dont think i failed............

[wicked adder]

[sage wolf]

i see his dead body on the floor

[wicked adder]

Hes just relaxing

Faust aint exactly what youd call a normal hombre

[sage wolf]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

this game can be a bit wild sometimes

[wicked adder]

It is explained, scout's honour

[sage wolf]

think about it like this tho

did i really fail cuz i came back with some phat loot

[wicked adder]

Everyone who went with you is fucking dead 💀

I guess ultimately the definition of failure is personal

[sage wolf]

i dont care about spark at all tbh

[cursive heron]

Hey all, anyone know how game differentiate save slots? I want to play new game on slot 1 but maintain my playthrough from prior (move to slot 2)

[sage wolf]

theyre too radical and wild, scar is a goofy ass character in this game

[wicked adder]

Scar also got into the vizard veed

[sage wolf]

yeah you can do that

[wicked adder]

When you click new game it gives you 3 slot options

But i don't know if you can move em

[cursive heron]

I mean moving save slot 1 to 2

[wicked adder]

Why don't tou just start again on slot 2...?

[cursive heron]

Ocd prob lol. I want new game on slot 1

😅🤷‍♂️

[wicked adder]

I don't think thats an option 🤔

[thorny stag]

Sad part is when you have the PSI damage glitch

[cursive heron]

Thanks. I tried looking in save game files too but dk how game differentiates it

[wicked adder]

Tried just looking for > save slot = 2?

Surely its that simple...

[cursive heron]

Haha nope if only was like that ( I even checked time, save files only has time saved as text)

Like no sectioned part noting slots

[hallow plume]

OLED guys, any tips to tweak HDR for Stalker 2? Can’t find a solution for overblown white surfaces in some conditions and very red fire

[eternal oyster]

the orb?

[warped monolith]

ponder

[true yew]

Chad Malachite orb vs Soyjack SIRCAA fountain

[eternal oyster]

I pondered so hard I walked too far into the water and my game crashed

[warped monolith]

[fallow stone]

Damn that's a loaded zombie!

[tropic nymph]

anyone got a fix for this https://steamcommunity.com/app/1643320/discussions/0/592882992704167506/

ADS stutters even though i lose no frames

[fallow stone]

I killed a controller mid-mind attack and now my game is stuck XD

[sour narwhal]

I installed stalker anomaly again and I forgot how mindboggling the amount of settings are

[clever sigil]

oh no, busyhands in stalker 2 ?

and here i thought we are free

[sour narwhal]

I lost a fully upgraded PKM to a burer in cordon last night while testing an SLZ addon i've been working on

[fallow stone]

Can't heal myself, can't breathe, suffocation, I'm getting shot at by terrifyingly tactcile hallucinations

[clever sigil]

SLZ?

[sour narwhal]

Shay's living zone

[fallow stone]

I had to uninstall SLZ because of how awful the encounters became, I constantly had squads of 10+ dickheads thrown at me every 10 minutes, it was unmanageable xD

[sour narwhal]

I manually went through 3,170 lines and smushed together RoadSide panic's A-Life module with Shay's 2X spawnrate addon

And wrote a few "new" scenarios

[warped monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[fallow stone]

Red forest has to be one of the most interesting locations throughout all the games, it's fun to be here.

[sour narwhal]

It definitely feels a lot better than it's last-gen "open-air dungeon" thing it had going on

[wicked adder]

I just wish there was more going on there

Once north of Rostok there isn't much in the way of cool side quests or world interaction

[fallow stone]

I mean when you turn on the world's biggest rave machine to fry the brains of the ward it's kinda hard to top that

Meeting Doctor was fun too.

I think my biggest aesthetic disappointment in S2 has to be the emissions. They just look like the breaking bad mexico filter with lightning now. There's no pretty sky after it's done, no funky energy tendrils...

[clever sigil]

no C-Con = no fancy emissions

[wicked adder]

I think that’s kinda cope. It’s not like the emissions stopped

[warped monolith]

they stopped being fancy is what he meant

[wicked adder]

And nowhere is that said to be C-con specifically

And how ‘gone’ they really are is somewhat up to interpretation

[clever sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FD3rw9eltQ

[warped monolith]

wait, soc has no emissions

or was it that scripted thing in cnpp that you had to run into the sarcophagus to escape?
Thought that was a psi storm like the one that happened earlier in the game

[wicked adder]

Yeah that’s the c-con tryna brain blast you

[clever sigil]

its the zone itself.

Every time Strelok gets closer to the generators the number of emissions increases

[wicked adder]

That’s said in clear sky, where they don’t know about C-con

[clever sigil]

when you brainwash someone to kill themselves and they instead come and kill you.

[clever sigil]

it was also hinted to be the case in S2

[wicked adder]

The clear sky design doc says it was C con doing it

The subtle matter and ‘intelligent’ zone isn’t really a thing in any substantial form until stalker 2

Strelok gets to the CNPP the first time which triggers a direct C con reaction, then clear sky happens and Strelok triggers a second reaction and gets mind controlled

Then he reaches it again in SOC, triggering a third and killing off c con

[clever sigil]

the suble matter is slightly confusing.

We get to talk with Strider but also the thing we talk with in STC is just a program.

[wicked adder]

Yeah, I’m not convinced that’s really ‘strider’

But also the STC program changes depending on what ending you choose

The same ‘program’ that acts robotic in all other endings acts more human in the spark ending

[outer depot]

It’s way too advanced and has access to specific knowledge/memories we never saw for it to be just a psi radiation hallucination

[wicked adder]

I’m not saying it’s not strider’s memories. Sure, maybe a ‘saved’ copy taken when he was reintroduced into monolith. But his total lack of memories after being reintegrated really makes me doubt

[outer depot]

No that’s normal for Monolith

Extreme memory loss when under CCON control

[wicked adder]

Uh, no? Strider literally remembers what he did as a monolithian the first time

[clever sigil]

like in Ward ending you just stick in a module to let the big A use it while she is still a living human being.

[outer depot]

He remembers some of it and it’s clear he’s an exception

Most of them don’t remember shit and state as much

[wicked adder]

But when in the ‘subtle matter’ zone he’s unable to even remember being recontrolled

He doesn’t even remember the outcome of SIRCAA

[clever sigil]

Strider for sure is an exception, after all he broke off while the network was still working.

"working"

[outer depot]

Yeah because he got brain raped right there in front of us powerfully enough to even keep him from killing himself

[wicked adder]

I’m not denying he’s an exception, sure, he definitely seems more resilient than the others

Im just saying that the projection of him isn’t that convincing to me

[clever sigil]

Faust did him dirty thats for sure.

[outer depot]

The projection is just too advanced compared to the STC

[wicked adder]

We know that ‘projections’ created by the shard of the monolith can have memories. Dalin’s father proves that

[outer depot]

Now yes it could very well be just his reflection and not the original

In fact that’s likely the case; it’s a copy of his mind bouncing around the Noosphere

[clever sigil]

Dalins father is imprint of him before he entered the pod.

[wicked adder]

I’m just saying that these memories might not be ‘them’. Though one might argue that your memories and you are the same thing

[wicked adder]

Yeah, and I don’t see why strider couldn’t be an equivalent

[clever sigil]

he did not enter the pod.

[outer depot]

Okay then we’re arguing the same point: I think it can preserve a copy of a person but it’s not actually the original

Hence not actually “immortal”

[wicked adder]

But he did get re-entered into the monolithian ‘semi hive mind’. And he remembers nothing after

[clever sigil]

and why the shining zone is a lie

[outer depot]

Though to the mind of the person floating around, they’re still them

[wicked adder]

I’m still not sure why Dalin Sr has unique dialog for spark

[outer depot]

Pretty sure it’s psi radiation feeding off Dalin Jr

[clever sigil]

i feel like at that point it was Faust who went into "direct" controll on him and real Strider was gone.

[wicked adder]

Honestly that could be. I always wondered why Faust brought Strider to the doctors house

[outer depot]

Strider does vaguely remember being killed at least

[wicked adder]

To play pretend? Someone the other day suggested that Strider came there subconsciously to kill Faust

[clever sigil]

you mean why he brought him to his house?

[outer depot]

When you tell him he’s dead he reaches for his neck where Doc stabbed him which ties into him momentarily regaining consciousness in that cutscene right as he dies

[wicked adder]

Yes, I was being a little coy

Why did he bring him to his house… only to have him attack us and then kill him

Part of me wonders if Strider maybe was resisting Faust more than we see

[outer depot]

That’s honestly the reason I think it’s not just psi radiation; he does recall he died when you tell him about it meaning it’s not just a capture of before he got retaken by the Monolith

[outer depot]

If there’s anyone who would be, it’s him

[wicked adder]

Very true

[clever sigil]

it more feels like the reason why Strider was the first to break off the monolith influence after the C-Con died and X-network got shut down and was able to remember being killed by Doc... Is that his psi resistance is not as weak as its with other monolith.

Faust got direct controll of him when the network was restarted because he was standing right next to the artefact

Strider then came to his house because faust lost the controll again after some time.

[outer depot]

I mean clearly the intent is to leave it open to interpretation, but I think it’s definitely bending towards the Noosphere in fact being able to capture a copy of a person in it vs not being able to do anything and it’s completely a lie.

[clever sigil]

probably for revenge

[wicked adder]

I mean we know people can have natural Psi immunity resistance

So, maybe strider is one of em

[clever sigil]

yes and we know how agents and monolith are created and what are the requirements and having almost no psi prot is the requirement. you either turn into zombie or into monolith.

[outer depot]

Yeah though it’s a bit odd given Strelok says a person can only survive C-Con brainwashing once, yet it’s able to assume direct control of all Noontiders without them keeling over like Dark

[wicked adder]

I just kinda assumed it’s the TVs specifically

[outer depot]

Could be

It definitely fucks up Scar when we flash him

[wicked adder]

And even scar can ‘tank’ a couple of those but maybe that’s because his brain is borderline mush

[outer depot]

“What’s even left in there”

[wicked adder]

Turns out having someone else’s memories shoved in your head (why the fuck did c con even do that) isn’t good for you

[outer depot]

Well that and his whacky nervous system

[clever sigil]

mush, i bet if you drilled a hole in his head the brain would just pour out.

[outer depot]

I am still somewhat confused about that entire situation with Marshall

[wicked adder]

The thing is that obviously Marshall and the spark guys happen AFTER COP, so scar is presumably in the CNPP for years

It’s all very odd

[clever sigil]

he basically got lucky that he got processed before the network died down completely

[outer depot]

The thing is though the note about the memory reframe reads like it was done so much later

Like literal years yeah, not during the immediate post-CS mass brainwashing

[clever sigil]

you win some you lose some.

[wicked adder]

Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. The memories scar has couldn’t have been gathered until like 5 years after his initial brainwashing

So was he just a faceless monolithian in that time? Sitting nearly comatose in that hallway?

[outer depot]

my main graphics complaint is no dynamic shadows from player flashlight even though NPC lights cast dynamic shadows

[wary orbit]

Microsoft knows best!

[clever sigil]

you know whats kinda funny?

when a certain game crashes when you have a specific browser open, but if you close said browser, the game then runs smooth like butter.

[wary orbit]

People underestimate what 56 tabs open in a browser cost you in terms of memory

[outer depot]

Maybe he was an agent at the time and somehow got brought back to the neurocenter for an ad-hoc reframe? Fuck if I know. Maybe I missed a sekrit dokument somewhere

I know there’s the list of agents you find after fighting Granite

I sort of forget who all else is listed on it beyond Strelok and Nestor, and I didn’t take a screenshot

[clever sigil]

not that bad

[outer depot]

I wish I didn’t have to use Framegen even though I’ve got a beefy computer: it breaks red dots and holos

[clever sigil]

why tf does facebook tab need so much RAM?

[outer depot]

Like honestly it feels like no setting combo makes any difference, it’ll just park its butt at ~50 FPS without framegen if you put everything to min or all the way to epic

Or you upscale at like 50%

[mossy nimbus]

before I post anything S2 related, do you guys hide stuff like endings in spoiler?

[clever sigil]

up to you

[outer depot]

Given our prior discussion doesn’t look like a shitty SCP article

Imma say we don’t need spoilers

[clever sigil]

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like this ?

[outer depot]

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[mossy nimbus]

what is the tag for spoiler please?

[wicked adder]

! !<

[clever sigil]

|| at start and end of text

[wicked adder]

Hahaha

[clever sigil]

bruh xD

[mossy nimbus]

oh ffs :D

[clever sigil]

poor guy

[mossy nimbus]

entry level joke, I assume?

serves me right, blindly trusting stalker chat :D

[wicked adder]

Nestor, scar, chornozem, strelok and dark

It says scar’s memories from marshal were added during programming but that doesn’t make allot of sense

Because that means he really was undergoing programming for like… years

[outer depot]

Right unless dude was on the floor there for years until after OG-Spark was a thing and then killed

[clever sigil]

well, atleast its not like in linux help groups where the tips range from helpfull to removing your OS files with one command

[wicked adder]

But it had to happen after call of Pripyat because ward wasn’t a thing before then

The spark members didn’t head north until after ward

Thanks GCW for breaking your own lore, very cool

[clever sigil]

well

[outer depot]

Maybe Scar was just converted to an actual monolithian and by chance the Sparkers managed to both capture him post-CoP and then reprogram him

That’s all I got

[clever sigil]

ward was a thing for as long as SIRCAA was

[wicked adder]

They’ve had no presence in the zone until after cop, I guess you could argue they were ‘secret’ I suppose

[outer depot]

Yeah but they weren’t active in the Zone until after CoP afaik. TBH I’m still a little confused why they even hunted down the original Sparkers anyways

[clever sigil]

and SIRCAA was already mentioned in CoP

[mossy nimbus]

So I just finished 2 S2 endings and I am bit confused: what was the Faust revelation in Doctor's ending supposed to be about? If you shoot Doc, he dies with blood and everything, no illusion break. But if you spare him it is revealed it was Faust in disguise even though you actually killed him in Duga boss fight?

[mossy nimbus]

when was SIRCAA mentioned in CoP? Spark is definitely there but SIRCAA?

[outer depot]

Because the original Spark was described as essentially just being a few scientists and not an actual faction and then Ward apparently came in and curbstomped the eggheads

[wicked adder]

It’s pretty unclear

Maybe through subtle matter Faust was able to be at two places at once?

Or maybe he was ‘projecting’? The doctor isn’t blind after all, but Faust is

[outer depot]

I think the answer is that it’s a SoC tier troll ending

And it shouldn’t be looked at too hard

[wicked adder]

Or maybe they’re not the same person but both manifestations of the zone’s will. I have no real answers unfortunately

[mossy nimbus]

apparently, because if you start to look at things logically, even taking anomalous nature of Zone into consideration, everything start to fall apart

[clever sigil]

in the ending

[wicked adder]

OG spark though is just the Yanov ecologists, like spirit and Topol in COP. But marshal isn’t present so maybe he had already gone north prior to COP, but this would mean that ward was secretly in the zone for years

[clever sigil]

pri_a28_outro_phrase_19_a

to be specific

[wicked adder]

Yeah it’s where Strelok goes

[clever sigil]

"SIRCAA was established sometime after 2012 by the Ukrainian government after Strelok passed on the information he found at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant to the USS Commanders. Strelok immediately took up the position of chief scientific consultant."

[mossy nimbus]

hang on, SIRCAA is that new department Strelok is that special consultant for?

[wicked adder]

Yep

[outer depot]

That’s the thing about it, I can’t imagine why Ward would have curbstomped them so hard to begin with when they were busy enforcing treaties but not genociding the major factions

[clever sigil]

and the Clear Sky started at 2011

[mossy nimbus]

oh right, I played czech version of CoP years ago, that's why I couldn't piece it together

[clever sigil]

On April 21, 2014, SIRCAA's security team gave Venyamin minimum clearance and resources for his investigation, while also setting up surveillance to track his movements. Many years later.

Venyamin was found dead in a bunker near Yaniv. Furthermore, SIRCAA's security team has been actively eliminating "illegal elements", presumed to be stalkers. SIRCAA was seemingly engaged in a conflict with a group known as "Problesk".

Problesk being the original name for Spark

[wicked adder]

Which is meant to be spark

[mossy nimbus]

good lord, so many things were done dirty in S2 - Duty, original Spark, Scar, even Strelok to certain degree

[outer depot]

Like Ward even organized the joint mission between everyone to try and capture the Generators (which failed)

[clever sigil]

so by that we know that Scar was in the CNPP from 2011 to atleast 2014

[wicked adder]

I had read that, but had forgotten. Which confirms that spark was only actually attacked after COP, which means that scar really had been sitting in a pile of his own piss for 3 years

[clever sigil]

Operation Zenith?

[outer depot]

Extra double cooked

Pan seared, Cooked, and then microwaved

[mossy nimbus]

IIRC it was originally assumed that Scar is dominant Monolith guy named Charon or something

[mossy nimbus]

no wonder he turned batshit insane

[clever sigil]

you know whats funny? Duty brough Nukes into the Zone all the way back in 2006

well it was the military unit that then became Duty

and them nukes are there somewhere lost in the Zone

[wicked adder]

Yknow bros I don’t think duty should have given up its nukes in that treaty with freedom…

[mossy nimbus]

not really a fan of Duty but Duty was done dirty in S2

[wicked adder]

Maybe duty would be more than like two buildings in butfuck nowhere in stalker 2 if they had em

[mossy nimbus]

is there a mention of it anywhere? Did not find any notes about it and sure as hell don't remember that from OG

[clever sigil]

they did not. the only people in Duty who knew about the Nukes were the original members of Duty who all died.

[outer depot]

I actually like the cement factory tbh

[mossy nimbus]

same, fairly good location, excellent vantage points, easy to defend

[outer depot]

Get spatial anomalied bozos

[clever sigil]

2006
March 4: A phenomena of blinding light illuminates the sky high above the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. The incident lasted two full hours before subsiding, with witnesses saying that it disappeared as if power suddenly failed.
April 12 14:33 +2 GMT: The phenomena repeats itself with the skies illuminated by an intolerably bright light. However, the clouds rapidly evaporate. This is followed by a tremendous thunderous crash, lasting far longer than normal. After the thunder fades, there was an ominous silence, followed by a 6.9 magnitude earthquake. The glow in the sky continues, spreading over the entire region, while deadly energy disturbances raged through the Zone, making any rescue effort impossible. Subsequent investigation turned up the fact, that the center of the explosion was at least one kilometer away from the CNPP, evidently the nuclear fuel dump going up.
June 10: The Zone abruptly grows five kilometers bigger after the supposed 'emission' which came to be known as the "Second Disaster". The 'new' Zone manifests, with reported instances of the very laws of science being defied. Most of the Military presence around the perimeter perish, together with the staff and crew of the various laboratories in the Zone. Panic-stricken people from nearby villages are once again evacuated.
In response, the Ukrainian Military moves in force to the center of the Zone with the objective of destroying it with the use of nuclear weapons. However, without any protective gear, proper equipment such as detectors, or any adequate information about the Zone, many of the ground troops are killed by anomalies before they even managed to reach their objective. The troops that did reach the CNPP are destroyed by another emission of less intensity than the first. The operation ends in massive failure, with the survivors scattered and left to fend for themselves against the Zone's harsh environment.

Captain Tachenko, squad leader of a group of survivors, sabotages the communications of his squad to prevent them from calling HQ. They decide to create a group within the Zone dedicated to fighting against the Zone's 'spawns of evil' - Duty.

[wicked adder]

It’s funny that duty nukes thing is literally mentioned once by a random duty officer in clear sky and never again

[clever sigil]

source:
Clear Sky website, Zone World section, GSC Gameworld, retrieved on 18/07/2010

[warped monolith]

JOIN DOOTY

[outer depot]

Doody

[wicked adder]

There’s just nothing really there yknow

[clever sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkpvwSZJb4E

[wicked adder]

It can’t compare to the bar, not even close

And especially since freedom moved all their shit in

[mossy nimbus]

I wonder how "nuclear fuel dump going up" could be responsible for such a massive explosion which would expand the Zone that much
Wouldn't be surprised if that investigation was just dud and it was from actual CNPP again

[clever sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Nz24XlCJU

the music is from this gem of rts history

[wicked adder]

I think every zone expansion has been a consequence of someone reaching the CNPP?

Both times it was Strelok

[outer depot]

I am sad we don’t get HD CS DRIP

[mossy nimbus]

I meant location in-lore wise from tactical point of view makes sense but gameplay-wise I agree with you, Duty is barely a presence

[wicked adder]

I wish we had gotten more about clear sky tbh, but also there couldn’t have been much to say about them. Considering the game introducing them is also the game that gets rid of them

But with scar back you’d think there would be more clear sky references than just their empty base

[mossy nimbus]

Yep, the only particular mention of them was Novikov in CoP in Jupiter Mobile lab

[outer depot]

Kinda sad seeing CS base just totally abandoned and succumbing to time

[outer depot]

You could get an armor set

Was actually a decent one too

[mossy nimbus]

and Great Swamps being turned into one of most hated portions of S2 map

[outer depot]

Oh so normal Great Swamp then

[mossy nimbus]

the one you could order from Nimble?

[fallow stone]

I wonder how long it'll be before some madlad makes a gachimuchi radio replacer.

I'd listen to that brainrot.

[warped monolith]

it should play exclusively in the duty gym

[fallow stone]

Just this https://youtu.be/q8us0WnvaG8 in the gym

[wicked adder]

I wish we could at least just play the radio from the PDA

The only way you can listen to music anywhere you go is by losing a friend

[fallow stone]

You can! It just requires one mod and some additional setup

[mossy nimbus]

I wish some songs from KINO could be included but I guess copywright is the issue

[fallow stone]

And some Zemlyane songs

[sour narwhal]

it's giving you a good benefit of not using it anymore

become nicers, more calm, life becomes more fun, save ram

[clever sigil]

pretty much

[wicked adder]

I’m sure they explain it in the doctor’s ending. The zone can expand but is being prevented somehow

[clever sigil]

i use it as a medium to keep track of airing anime and other anime and a daile dose of cute anime pictures. dont judge me.

[clever sigil]

thats one thing.

the C-Con wanted to brainwash all people, the original Doc who was meant to be the 8th sabotaged it.

[mossy nimbus]

I have only 2 reasons to stay on FB - watching regular aussie comic and stay in touch with few friends and colleagues, otherwise don't bother. Didn't check Home page in years (just like @sour narwhal mentioned - live becomes more fun, nicer, etc )

[mossy nimbus]

Doc's ending became Freedom's ultimate dream essentially

[eternal oyster]

fuckin S2 mods man. every time I open nexus my brain goes ooh little mod. ooh little mod. ooh little mod. until

[clever sigil]

xD

[mossy nimbus]

yep, especially Maklane's mods, those are nice addition

[wicked adder]

The fact that they started at winter is very odd

[eternal oyster]

oh fuck, yeah they do. shit.

[clever sigil]

what people tend to forget is that the nuclear reactor still exploded in Stalker universe

[mossy nimbus]

twice

[clever sigil]

so the first distaster is the reactor going boom

second distatser is the creation of zone itself in 2006

[eternal oyster]

well I mean yeah, the whole hole in the roof thing, just stalker had a second major disaster and didn't build the funny lookin dome thing

[mossy nimbus]

funny lookin'? Seeing that hangar IRL was quite something, especially how they put the thing there in first place

[clever sigil]

this pretty much sums up the Clear Sky and SoC

[wicked adder]

Zulu is richter

[eternal oyster]

so how does S2 address the whole existence of the OG games thing. cause Pripyat & Yanov and Zaton are on seperate sides of the map, so degtyarev...

[wicked adder]

He takes tunnels smh

[warped monolith]

it'd be funny if you could ask him about it in s2

[wicked adder]

All 3 games have been screwed around by the map reshuffle

[mossy nimbus]

Zulu is mentioned in PDA in S2 only, correct?

[clever sigil]

one thing, in Clear Sky you were meant to go trough the same underground area as you do in CoP, before they cut it and you go to the CNPP directly from the hospital.

[eternal oyster]

oh, and where is juipter factory now? that fucks it up even more

[wicked adder]

Doesn’t help that Limansk just isn’t in the map right now and is seemingly left of red forests which means somehow you can go from Limasnsk in the west to Pripyat in the east

Through a hospital that isn’t between either of those places

[wicked adder]

He’s mentioned in generic duty dialog iirc.

[mossy nimbus]

good lord, that map reshuffle got me confused af, I know all locations from OG and GAMMA by heart and then S2 comes in and changes the landscape completely, for example Great Swamps and Zaton are right next to each other now? Damn

[wicked adder]

But he looks very close to richter, they both drink a lot. Richter is in Zulu’s tower and is kown by Deggy, Strelok and the residents of Yaniv

[clever sigil]

Clear Sky

[eternal oyster]

I mean, it's just a big metal half cylinder

[clever sigil]

Shadow of Chernobyl

Call of Prypiat

[eternal oyster]

damn, bro has the sauce

[mossy nimbus]

Nathan, why are you posting all this here, I wonder? Everyone can check things out on Fandom

[wicked adder]

They’d have to draw the map themself

[eternal oyster]

okay yeah CoP I can kinda see making sense

[clever sigil]

cause people dont know it exists

[wicked adder]

I don’t think it’s kept anywhere because I had to draw my own map of why it doesn’t make sense

[eternal oyster]

CS and SoC are a bit convoluted but CoP makes sense route-wise

[clever sigil]

the full line means travel between og maps

[eternal oyster]

dotted is non OG?

[clever sigil]

like there is nothing that says that you move from one map to other instantly

[clever sigil]

dotted is you actually walking in the og game maps

[mossy nimbus]

kinda? The travel between Zaton and Yanov seems very long one, basically other parts of the Zone

[wicked adder]

This is true, it’s implied you’re taking the ‘safe’ route

And seemingly there are more safe routes as of stalker 2. But the maps still aren’t perfectly aligned

[eternal oyster]

I mean yeah, but just the back and forth that you can do in CoP between zaton and yanov seems... a lot. especially for quests like magpie where it's multi-map

[wicked adder]

Strelok walked right past Zalissyia and it’s never relevant? Or they set the whole thing up like a year ago?

[clever sigil]

the only thing that does not make sense to me is the CoP thing with Bloodsucker den in Zaton

[clever sigil]

Zalissyia is pretty new

[eternal oyster]

yeah, was thinking that too, cause that building is in like.. near the duga? or red forest or something now?

[wicked adder]

Scar going from the Hosptial in Limansk to the CNPP seems like a leap to me too. Why is there such a long tunnel 💀

[clever sigil]

yep

[wicked adder]

Like you’d be crossing the entirety of red forest and then some

[mossy nimbus]

Zalissyia is only recently established as "new" Cordon like area for beginners

[lunar gyro]

are spawns in the swamps always this crazy? every step i take there's a pack of dogs, boars, or a bloodsucker attacking me. running on fumes rn

[clever sigil]

again, originaly you were meant to have another tunel map after the hospital

[eternal oyster]

also they map-made the bridge to limansk but cut it completely

[clever sigil]

it was cut out in the end

[mossy nimbus]

That is Kurglov antenna complex, no connection with Duga emitters at all

[wicked adder]

Gotta sell dlc

[eternal oyster]

I know, I'm just struggling to remember where it is lol

[mossy nimbus]

In S2? Good question, that map reshuffle reshuffled my memories as well

[eternal oyster]

OH NAH FUCK YOU IT IS NEAR THE DUGA

[wicked adder]

Merely a coincidence

[eternal oyster]

I know, no connection, just saying location-wise

[wicked adder]

Still, interested to see Limansk after it became ‘lost’

[clever sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOMVdOc9UbE imagine you are having fun with amatour radios and out of nowhere you hear this

[eternal oyster]

my brain went duga and red forest but it's duga and burnt forest

[mossy nimbus]

not necessary, IRL there is a little control center-like complex for Duga, could be Kruglov

[wicked adder]

Like mysteriously all the passages into the city collapsed? And there was ominous radio from within?

[mossy nimbus]

Well, it is called Duga for reason :)

[wicked adder]

I mean Limansk, could be related to the duga I guess…

[mossy nimbus]

I think they are leaving Limansk for potential sequel, don't think DLC

[wicked adder]

I’m picturing something more like The Fog

[eternal oyster]

well, no... limansk is up in the fog by the red forest, duga is separated from it by malachite

[mossy nimbus]

but how by Monolith do they want to do sequel considering far-reaching consequencies those endings have, I dunno

[wicked adder]

Yeah… if there’s a sequel I’m gonna assume either no ending will be canon or it’ll be the Spark ending

Potentially the Doctor’s, if they wanna increase the scale

[eternal oyster]

mmm, I made a bad choice this morning, btw

[wicked adder]

Definitely not Strelok or Ward

[wicked adder]

Rude ass tbh, why offer your hand if you’re not gonna help me up

[mossy nimbus]

could easily do Strelok's ending - you are essentially trapped in the Zone and are looking for a way out

[eternal oyster]

RIGHT!?

[wicked adder]

I think the zone being fully closed off, no one in no one out they’d really struggle to make the game fit the story

[eternal oyster]

did also get these this morning though

[wicked adder]

Especially because that would require a much more survival focused game (like gamma funnily enough) and that’s not really what they’ve been going for

[mossy nimbus]

and everyone is essentially sentenced to die eventually as no import means fewer and fewer supplies, ammo etc

[eternal oyster]

they just need a few of those wooden boxes and they could last weeks. pop one and you've got like 3 cans of food 4 bottles of water and some vodka

[wicked adder]

Someone else suggested they’d do stalker set in another zone (like the Afghan zone) but, I doubt it because of how Chernobyl is in the ‘blood’ of the series

And also because those books suck ass

[eternal oyster]

there's no way they'd up and move us.

monolith 2: now with added terrorist analogies

[mossy nimbus]

I mean, in original novel Roadside picnic it is mentioned that there are more Zones but yea, the Chernobyl Zone location is basically THE stamp of series

[eternal oyster]

wasn't it theorized that redrick's zone is in canada?

[crystal thicket]

Gsc new stalker 2 dlc

[mossy nimbus]

wasn't it Dutch or somewhere there?

been years since I read it last so could remember wrong

[covert eagle]

no the book takes place in cannada, in redricks home town

i just reread it recently

[wicked adder]

There’s a stalker book specifically about the Afghan zone is what I was directly referencing, but yeah the roadside picnic main one is meant to be canadian

[eternal oyster]

I had a feeling but I couldn't remember if it was canada or not ( 🇨🇦 woop woop )

[wicked adder]

‘‘Twas aliens and shit

But aliens can be replaced with C con…

[covert eagle]

it also makes more sense where there is a UN-like entity that basically has control over the zone in the canadian story, that's much more canadas style

[mossy nimbus]

heroes don't seem to be stereotypically Canadians, maybe that's why I didn't remember

[eternal oyster]

who needs aliens when you have the naivete and stubbornness of man

[covert eagle]

redrick aint no hero, you should read the book its a banger

[eternal oyster]

🇨🇦 WAR CRIMES, WOOP WOOP

[wicked adder]

It was written by Russians, how many Canadians could they have met

[covert eagle]

true and the dialogue makes it so clear its russian, very fatalist

[mossy nimbus]

I guess I should use word protagonist but hero is faster to type I guess

[covert eagle]

oh ok mybad

[eternal oyster]

"saw a man get fookin turned into a ball of meat, looked like a fucked up timbit, felt sooree for him, eh?"

[mossy nimbus]

besides, I did read it a while ago but still remember most of stuff, yeah it is very good
Even recognized some stuff from it in S2, many quest names are direct references to the book, especially those near ending

[eternal oyster]

I'm canadian I'm allowed to do this

[covert eagle]

the book is a perfect lil scifi story, maybe has some pacing issues but all and all its a nice 1 day read if youre stuck on a train or something

[mossy nimbus]

I almost pity your life partner, unless they are into that shit

[outer depot]

Strelok ending essentially ensures that someone is going to wind up going to kill Strelok

[eternal oyster]

I have a life partner? since when!?
nah but in all seriousness I don't have that canadian accent. I sound ""american"" enough to pass

[wicked adder]

They’re sure gonna try

[eternal oyster]

yeah, himself. 20 coupons says he kept that PDA

[mossy nimbus]

guess I forgot to put in brackets "future" but eh

[wicked adder]

How many monolithians can POSSIBLY be left after Skiff makes his way through the CNPP and red fortress

[eternal oyster]

I wonder how the dutiers feel about using coupons, a system devised by freedomers

[mossy nimbus]

oh man, doing Doctor's ending and after Strelok boss fight I had such good laugh after that MISSION COMPLETED

[wicked adder]

So like, there can only be so many left to defend Strelok. In theory I guess he could start blasting out emissions? But I’m sure that has a cooldown

then again a lot fire off in the ward ending

[fallow stone]

Still too fucking many, they reproduce through mitosis

[eternal oyster]

mono-tosis

[wicked adder]

One of them wished ti be able to forever defend the monolith and their wish was granted by making them duplicate over and over

In the bowls of the CNPP, under the elephant foot perhaps, there is a monolithian who can’t stop splitting in two and has been doing so for years

[mossy nimbus]

I swear, sometimes it seems like Wish granter has some wicked sense of humor, almost like Gaunter O'Dimm or someone similar

[eternal oyster]

speaking of the wish granter. ||that memory it shows us in SIRCAA with the stalker getting attacked n shit||

Ward are bad people, huh?

[wicked adder]

I’m not entirely sure who that’s meant to be though

Indeed, if its based on a real memory at all

[mossy nimbus]

and then it turns out Skif just went mental while watching memories of Strelok from non-canon endings of ShoC

[eternal oyster]

I don't think that was skif's wish. it didn't show us who it was, but I don't think that was skif's wish.

[wicked adder]

It’s kinda hard to tell what’s going on at that part

[eternal oyster]

twist, the monolith can see alternate timelines

[mossy nimbus]

ugh, please no, no alternate timelines or time-travel or such BS

[wicked adder]

Cause yeah it shows us Strelok making two wishes we know he never did, then shows a reality where Dalin has a friend of strider attacked in the room

[outer depot]

Don’t think too hard about the big dumb troll rock

[mossy nimbus]

I even saw some comments on how Skif's original kitchen incident was some sort of time-loop to make him come to the Zone and do the Doc's ending

[wicked adder]

I don’t think it’s that far

But I have heard that it wasn’t an accident that his shitty apartment exploded

[eternal oyster]

it's weird that the alpha is they key to re-activating the monolith though

[mossy nimbus]

When will people learn that Groundhog day and Alternate Universes are cheap concepts and they just dont work satisfactory?

[wicked adder]

What’s weird to me is that the Caribbean experiment caused an explosion in Ukraine

Thats a pretty wide distance

[mossy nimbus]

I was willing to accept that it was more like wink to S1 players

[outer depot]

There was just a really long tunnel to the generators

[wicked adder]

Under sea tunnel

[outer depot]

Probably connects to Jupiter underground

[eternal oyster]

I mean if everything is interconnected like Faust shows us, then perhaps the energy can travel until it finds a "fault line" for lack of a better term to release it

[mossy nimbus]

I was under impression that original destination of the actual signal attempt was towards that Caribbean island but it backfired due to someone's interference and Skif's flat got hit by accident or something

[wicked adder]

All good idea, for something we have very limited info on

[mossy nimbus]

I just really hope the whole kitchen incident was not orchestrated by someone else otherwise it would cheaply undermine Skif's motivation to go to Zone on his own to figure out wtf happened

[wicked adder]

Skiff being a chosen one kinda turned me off the plot a bit

Like bro is just here to get new keys to an apartment

[mossy nimbus]

Have to say, the main motivation was such a fun idea, not the usual Chosen one trope or vengeance story, just "Some MF blew up my IKEA kitchen and I am gonna make 'em pay for it"

[outer depot]

Unless you actively pursue the cooked ass Scar plot or go off the rails yourself, you’re not

[eternal oyster]

it had Fallout new vegas revenge vibes until faust called me the "envoy of the monolith" and then I had to go AWWWWW FUCCKKKKKK >:(

[wicked adder]

The story tells you you are. The doctor hints that we’re not just chasing after a new house

[outer depot]

And yet, you can just chase the new house

[sour narwhal]

Am i the only one who feels like...

Last gen stalkers+anomaly: Do a few missions, 3 or so side mission, and I'm like "I'm good, that was enough, save it, slot it away"

Stalker 2 its like: I will sprint out the next 15 radiant/side/MQ's in 2 hours flat

[mossy nimbus]

tbf, that Faust's line could also be interpreted that he has such limited worldview that seeing someone as capable as Skif could make Faust think Monolith actually send Skif to punish Faust for his failures

[wicked adder]

Faust and his plan seems hard to interpret at times, especially with his reveals

[bronze matrix]

There is a gun trader named Ragman, is that a ref to tarkov or wut ?

[eternal oyster]

mmm, fair. all he knew was monolith, even after it left. a narrow view such as that could drive one to see every event to be influenced by your "god"

[outer depot]

It’s implied Skif has the potential to be something greater but Skif can also just go “you killed my house, someone has to pay for a new one >:(“ at almost every point

[eternal oyster]

tarkov ragman sells clothes not guns. so maybe, but unlikely, I'd say

[bronze matrix]

clothes too, forgot but it can be

[mossy nimbus]

it could also be a referrence to the fact that he is the only one willing to buy weapons in red condition

[wicked adder]

Considering Nikita is very unapologeticlly Russian, I’m not sure GCW would want to reference tarkov

[eternal oyster]

"DALIN YOU BLACK SUITED FUCK, YOU SHOT MY SINK WITH A ROCK, IM GONNA PUT A CAP IN YOUR ASS"

[wicked adder]

Ward is the only faction to offer skiff what he really wants

[outer depot]

Korshunov cheeseballing in the background

[wicked adder]

You think his new apartment is like… nicer? Or is it just as shitty and Slavic as his first one

[mossy nimbus]

seeing Skif choke Dalin like no tomorrow and Korshunov just stands around unfazed made me chuckle good, ngl

[wicked adder]

And I guess he’s going back to being unemployed?

Unless he calls ward/Sircaa back

[outer depot]

He was day trading drained artifacts lol

[wicked adder]

Yeah but that’s not a job that’s like selling stolen copper wires

[mossy nimbus]

nicer but soulless, original one had that communist vibe, still remember my old place

[eternal oyster]

found the meme. I might edit this into a STALKER meme later idk.

[outer depot]

It’s not much but it’s honest work

[mossy nimbus]

"What in a goddamn..." - Benny, the Checker-suited fuck

[wicked adder]

Skiff in his brand new completely white apartment, it’s got 2 floors and 6 rooms but he only uses the bathroom and bedroom (he can’t stop throwing up from all that rad exposure)

[eternal oyster]

all white and covered in mud

[mossy nimbus]

he sure as hell doesn't need light for late-night piss

[wicked adder]

[outer depot]

With his headlamp he wouldn’t be able to see the toilet standing right in front of it anyways

[eternal oyster]

it's like a glowstick...

[wicked adder]

Crack it

[eternal oyster]

[mossy nimbus]

sometimes I don't need light either, and it was only two days

[outer depot]

Me when I go down yet another radioactive hole and absorb 70 mSv to grab one sausage and a bottle of mineral water

[wicked adder]

https://tenor.com/view/sheff-g-rapper-rich-money-rap-gif-27701162

[outer depot]

Early game liquid rock let’s goooo

[eternal oyster]

the artifacts in S2 make me feel something. they're pretty, have inspect animations and have actual good balancing? god

[outer depot]

I can’t get over just how good the freedom SEVA is

And you can get it so early

[eternal oyster]

I did the funny box jump for the diamond exo after I fully upgraded a corundum suit

[outer depot]

Freedom SEVA and then later the Falcon over at Malachite

Tbh I don’t like Exos, they make you feel too fat even with sprint

I basically never use them at all

[eternal oyster]

I love the feeling of the heavy armour. who needs some cloth when I can feel like a tank

you can run like a little rat all day but I can take like 6 more bullets than you and keep walking

[shadow vale]

YOU BACK!!! HELLAUR

[eternal oyster]

music man.... I have forgotten who you are mostly my apologies but I remember something about a bear.
but HAIIIIIII!!!

[shadow vale]

forgotten

How’s stalker 2 for ya

[eternal oyster]

I hardly remember oflin, dw. been in here all the time cause it's leagues more fun than GAMMA

[shadow vale]

Same, everyone’s entitled to their opinions obviously but stalker 2 is nearly the perfect sequel to me

I got so tired with the tacticool modding community

[eternal oyster]

yeah I've seen some opinions, but I love it. obviously I'm modding it, but it's fun even vanilla

few bugs tho. like the weird ball not properly absorbing dmg

[outer depot]

Stalker 2 is a very Stalker game

[warped monolith]

definitely one of the stalker games ever.

[eternal oyster]

water is a very wet liquid.

[wary orbit]

wrong

[outer depot]

It genuinely hits me like SoC except most of my crashes are on startup and not because I opened a door or touched a box

[wary orbit]

water is not wet. wet is a condition thing that come in contact with water recieve

[outer depot]

It what if it’s weird water

[eternal oyster]

my crashes seem to mostly be when I drown

[river lintel]

Thats like saying fire is burnt

[warped monolith]

fire is hot

[wary orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/creek-trolls-trolls-creek-wiggle-finger-gif-10536398424088683757

[river lintel]

But temperature varies regardless of if plasma is being applied to it or not

[wicked adder]

Fire is fire

[river lintel]

Fire is often considered a plasma

[eternal oyster]

🔥

[wicked adder]

If fire is a plasma, how can i be the drink?

[wary orbit]

This chat sometimes

[river lintel]

Bitch you aren't even the cup

[wicked adder]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-dragon-ball-z-db-dbz-trunks-gif-11798832240715792025

[warped monolith]

you misspelt drunk

[eternal oyster]

chat went downhill because I said water is wet

[warped monolith]

good job

you triggered hermann and made Victor send a fortnite gif

[wicked adder]

I will concede that water is water

[river lintel]

To be fair i will also die on that hill

[mossy nimbus]

quite a shame that they reverted in many things more towards ShoC rather than CoP which was best of trilogy, at least gameplay wise

[outer depot]

I mean I just miss my fucking night vision

WHERE IS IT

[wicked adder]

Cut for time 💀

[mossy nimbus]

anything to do with a fact that you appear to be a girl? (Yes, I am assuming gender, to the anomaly with me and so on)

[outer depot]

EVERYONE ELSE HAS IT WHY NOT MEEEEEEE

[warped monolith]

such as what?

[river lintel]

Microsoft told them release the game now so a lot of things got left behind

[wary orbit]

Microsoft knows best!

[eternal oyster]

I mean anyone can say water is wet

[outer depot]

IT’S JUST A SHADER EFFECT REEEE

[river lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/say-the-line-bart-not-your-keys-not-your-coins-bitcoin-rd_btc-strike-memes-gif-25067869

[mossy nimbus]

I kinda understand they didn't include binoculars yet as A-Life is barely functioning in your close radius

[mossy nimbus]

the way how consumables work, for example

was thinking about changes recently but I admit I don't remember more now, tbf

[outer depot]

My flashlight extends six feet into a pitch black room and the twenty guys standing fifteen feet in can see me perfectly

[wicked adder]

They ate their carrots

[river lintel]

Most helmets have greyed out upgrade slots for NVG. There's a stall in rostok that presumably would be for Butcher and mutant skinning. I'm gonna let them cook and hope they get readded

[warped monolith]

We'd have mutant parts if they really leaned more towards SoC

[wary orbit]

What if the other Stalker games just had NVGs because they had too much time. Hm? Maybe NVGs were never ment to be in the game but they just had too much time to spare...

[mossy nimbus]

and coming from you is somehow hot(ter)?

[eternal oyster]

There's a mod for that ™️

[warped monolith]

GSC used to know best

[eternal oyster]

what

[warped monolith]

I know but we're talking about the stuff GSC did

[sour narwhal]

After fiddling with the oldschool a-life stuff

and then going back to the stalker 2 stuff. i feel a bit sad

[outer depot]

it was all an illusion

[eternal oyster]

yeah I know I'm just legally obligated to go "there's a mod for that™️" when I know of a mod for that

[mossy nimbus]

as in anybody can say water is wet but if you say it chat goes nearly apeshit or something

[river lintel]

Don't be That Guy

[eternal oyster]

I don't think I have anything to do with it, just how Hermann felt about it

[river lintel]

Because you're wrong. You can also say the earth is flat. Doesn't make it true

[wary orbit]

one of my case fans has developed a wobble and is making noise... ironically its a BeQuiet 120mm Fan. Am i wrong for wishing that the thing just rips itself apart so it stops annoying me?

[mossy nimbus]

no idea how Hermann fits into this and at this point I am afraid to ask

[eternal oyster]

There's a mod to not be That Guy
AKA, there's a mod for that™️
(it just makes you die to one bullet)

[outer depot]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Tgz75rMLXB0&pp=ygUeb2ggbXkgZ29kIGhlJ3Mgc28gZ29kZGFtbiBjb29s

[river lintel]

That's what you get for not liquid cooling

[warped monolith]

dead inside

[eternal oyster]

as all mercs are

[outer depot]

I felt bad killing Hog, he was kinda based before

[river lintel]

Bros become a wage slave to the syndicate lol

[wary orbit]

liquid cooling is more stress than just replacing a fan

[mossy nimbus]

So day-night cycle is also because they had too much time to spare? One could easily go with that logic

[warped monolith]

ew

[mossy nimbus]

Hog is one of true Merc professionals in CoP, even Loners spoke fairly highly of him

[warped monolith]

crosshairs, ADS, sprinting, low crouch, the bartering and reputation systems... it's all because they had too much extra time on their hands

[river lintel]

My rig is a closed coolant system and it's silent at all times

[eternal oyster]

points at cut content
"time to spare?"

[wary orbit]

stop asking questions

[mossy nimbus]

I mean, cutting Darkscape was good thing

[warped monolith]

facts

[outer depot]

Where Meadow

[river lintel]

And swamp

[eternal oyster]

fair point on that one. I meant more like the factions and storylines but yuh

[outer depot]

[warped monolith]

leave the vehicle chase sequences to Michael Bay movies or something.

[outer depot]

Me want Meadow

[eternal oyster]

but there's nothing in meadow

we have poppy field now. prettier.

[mossy nimbus]

Which swamp, btw:

[outer depot]

it’s perfect

[river lintel]

Swamp was cut from SoC

[outer depot]

I always make a base in Meadow

[eternal oyster]

it's an early game GAMMA burer and poltergeist playground

[mossy nimbus]

Faction like Sinners should remain on cut content butcher's table, their forcefield BS still annoys me in Gamma

[outer depot]

Well yeah but they stay over in the factory area

[eternal oyster]

I got a fucking spoon thrown at me in GAMMA once in meadow. it quartered my health.

[outer depot]

I make a little base in the guard post at the entrance and never get bothered

[warped monolith]

could've been worse. Could've been a tea cup.

[river lintel]

Or an explosive barrel

[eternal oyster]

the shrapnel

[mossy nimbus]

be glad it wasn't pencil (heavy John Wick breathing intensifies)

[outer depot]

I was once brained by a telekinetically launched pelvis

[mossy nimbus]

I assume it was not Great Swamp from CS then? Or just reused?

[warped monolith]

a pencil can have a sharp point.
A tea cup is scarier

[outer depot]

Rrrragh I want MORE GUNS

[mossy nimbus]

oh yea, the blunt force trauma

[eternal oyster]

take it from the medieval era, blunt will be more effective than sharp. you can only break so much armour, but energy transfer is forever.

[mossy nimbus]

I'd prefer proper rebalance based on caliber and so on, like in of mods... find it quite bs that rifle designed for penetrating heavy armors like Vintorez has penetration value like 2 out of 5 in S2

[eternal oyster]

which is why buckshot is scary. your plates may stop it, but you're gonna have some major broken ribs and be unable to breathe. god bless realistic shotguns.

[mossy nimbus]

one of good things Gamma did good - shotguns are actually viable for most parts of game now

[outer depot]

It’s not actually that good at armor pen IRL, it’s just okay relative to its velocity

[eternal oyster]

"like vintorez" Subsonic is like. pretty ass. 5.45 AP should kill way faster than it does though.

[outer depot]

Which is potato velocity

[eternal oyster]

subsonic is made to be quiet, not armour penetrating.

[mossy nimbus]

guess I should clarify that Vintorez was designed for quiet dispatching of enemies over short-to-mid distances and for targets having body armors

[outer depot]

Big stupid fat slow bullets are pretty bad for actual AP, you can just make them slightly less bad

[eternal oyster]

you can only sharpen a bolt so much.

[mossy nimbus]

and since subsonic bullets cannot travel far you gotta make do with distance they can do

also, making high-end rifle IRL like HK416 to be entry level weapon? C'mon

[river lintel]

I end up just using something 7.62

[eternal oyster]

the bigger it is, either the slower it is or the more you gotta propel it. and 9x39 isn't a small round. that and being subsonic... it's meh. I don't see the point.

[river lintel]

It's really good indoors. But if you're indoors you might as well just use something that's 45 or 9x18 that's suppressed that can do more power from a f****** pistol

[sour narwhal]

To cycle suppressed weapons too old and soviet for a nilsen device

[outer depot]

The point is that it’s designed for use with integrally suppressed rifles and that’s it

It’s a meme otherwise

[sour narwhal]

Suppressed weapons in general, the vintorez isn't really... "integrally suppressed"

[eternal oyster]

also the VSS-VAL baffles being literally like, washers welded into a tube

[sour narwhal]

I mean yeah actually I guess it is, the can is literally the barrel

[eternal oyster]

it's so russian engineering it's funny.

[river lintel]

It's integrally suppressed in the way that if you take off the suppressor the gun doesn't f****** work very well

[outer depot]

Okay but they look retarded without it and are mostly meant to be used with it

[sour narwhal]

The vintorez bafflestack in the can is literally one big piece of dogshit steel folded 6 times with a long hole punched through the center of it

[outer depot]

[river lintel]

That's Russian Weaponry for you

[outer depot]

Where LR300

[sour narwhal]

Actually unsure if it's steel. it's some cheap metal just folded 6 or 7 times to make the bafflestack

[eternal oyster]

saw a diagram where the VSS/VAL baffles were literally /\/\/\/\/\

[outer depot]

It’s an incredibly inefficient suppressor design

[sour narwhal]

9x39 punches like abastard though. you gotta think - it's slower than traditional 9mm, it's girthy as 9mm, but it's got twice the length of 9x18/19 so it's got nearly twice the amount of weight behind it

[outer depot]

Eh 250 gr or so sounds impressive but it’s not actually hitting that hard in account of the vel

Relative to pistol rounds sure

[eternal oyster]

it's more like a punch than a bullet. it's gonna energy transfer the fuck outta you but it's not insanely penetrating

[sour narwhal]

if getting shot with 9x19 is like being stabbed with a knife then being shot with 9x39 is like being gutted with the end of a halberd

[outer depot]

It’s like 500 ft lbs though

5.56 is like

1k iirc

9x39 is just a dumptruck ass bullet going at true potato speed

[mossy nimbus]

Tbf, Vintorez was not designed to be like assault/battle rifle but more like to give some edge to clandestine/Spetznaz units against enemies wearing body armors so makes sense it should not be used for fights over longer distances

[sour narwhal]

Normal 9mm (fiocchi) is rated for 115gr moving at about 1200 fps and thus, 19.18 footlbs

[eternal oyster]

I just like my classic 5.45/12 guage/.45 setup. it feels right.

[warped monolith]

[mossy nimbus]

That's why I had no issues with gameplay wise massive bullet drop but penetration was meh.

[outer depot]

Pretty sure it’s a lot more than that, 19 ft lbs is like being flicked

[mossy nimbus]

Eternal discussion - Kharod or Dnipro?

[sour narwhal]

9x39 195gr moving at its top end of 1017 is 445 footlbs

[eternal oyster]

...
AKM-74S...

[outer depot]

^

[sour narwhal]

368 lmfao

fuck the google calculator nevermind what in the fuck is wrong with these websites now

[eternal oyster]

I don't like bullpups and the kharod feels too "tactical"

[mossy nimbus]

if it didn't suck in later parts of game due to poor penetration I'd happily go with it

[outer depot]

RPK mag no optic 74S with the GP is all you need

[outer depot]

I obliterated Granite with mine on Veteran just hip firing AP at their heads

[eternal oyster]

Kharod feels like the fuckin... the AMB when it got added to gamma. too tactical for the setting, in a caliber that doesn't make sense for the vibe of the gun.

[mossy nimbus]

Once ballistics are redone to be more IRL or similarly I will happily go back to good ol' reliable AK

[river lintel]

Dnipro because the Ukranian Military is doing the lords work

[mossy nimbus]

almost like F2000 towards the end of ShoC

[eternal oyster]

I'd say like the P90 AK from metro

[sour narwhal]

How many grains is a musket ball

[eternal oyster]

they tried to modernize the AK twice in HoC and I hate both of them

[sour narwhal]

Sorry stroked out

[mossy nimbus]

after how many tries? You will not convince me you did it with zero deaths, especially considering the layout of room and their placement

[mossy nimbus]

just stick to Kalash and you are golden for rest of your game

[outer depot]

Two deaths, I somehow did not get the [dies for no reason] experience a lot of others did

[sour narwhal]

Aren't both of them israeli weapons? I know the kharod definitely is

[outer depot]

Dnipro is a bodykit AK-74

[river lintel]

The Dnipro isbthe Malyuk. It's uktanian made

[sour narwhal]

oh okay

[mossy nimbus]

there is that weird sound effect Granit Monos do from time to time, sounds like Burer's shielding thing and then they can one-shot you even with shotgun somehow

[eternal oyster]

Kalash and ultimate edition Saiga and USP Match that I got from faust...

[outer depot]

Yeah I heard that a lot but just somehow didn’t eat shit. Almost did a few times but never instant dead

[mossy nimbus]

USP Match would be nice, if not for rage-fueled damage of Skif's PM

[wary orbit]

9x39 195gr moving at its top end of 1,017ft/s is 445 footlbs fixed

[river lintel]

Also dnipro can be converted to 7.62 so it's instantly a better gun

[eternal oyster]

I think I use the skiftol as a box opener.

[mossy nimbus]

that final room is so awfully designed it makes me basically 100% sure it was not playtested properly

[outer depot]

Skifs PM is the deadliest weapon in the game

[river lintel]

It's up there

[outer depot]

I have literally never used any of the others

[mossy nimbus]

powered by Skif's desire for new proper kitchen sink

[eternal oyster]

faust's USP Match is pure sex and I can put an extended mag in it YOU CANNOT STOP ME RAAGGHHHH

[outer depot]

For handgun slot

[warped monolith]

the reason why we can't get rid of it without mods is that the pistol is the actual protagonist.
Skif is just an extension of it

[mossy nimbus]

if only it accepted suppressor it would be one of sexiest guns in game, agree

[river lintel]

But no suppressor or laser so -1

[outer depot]

I thought it was easy compared to the multi level section where you can’t see the fuck ass with the railgun four floors up in total darkness

[eternal oyster]

I literally cannot see where the laser goes with any of the guns so it doesn't matter much to me

[mossy nimbus]

oh yea, the staircase section is the other example

[sour narwhal]

yes i forgot to specify units of measurement, a 6th grader's mistake

[river lintel]

Is it really a stalker game without a shitty corridor sequence vs Monolith railgunners

[eternal oyster]

If the laser has no easily seen end point and is a stat stick, I care not for thine beam

[outer depot]

My answer to these areas was just a lot of vogs

[warped monolith]

[outer depot]

I died once in the hallway section and once at the stairs

[wary orbit]

wasn't ment as an attack or insult.

[sour narwhal]

no i know dont worry <3

[outer depot]

still the easiest endgame of any Stalker except maybe CoP

[mossy nimbus]

The only reason I didn't disable gun crosshairs in S2 HUD is because towards the end of game it is nearly impossible to distinguish enemy NCPs from friendlies, they all look same in those exos

[river lintel]

So you're saying you definitely didn't get one shot by the granite 3 kill room?

[sour narwhal]

yeah its fucking wild like just fighting a dog for the first time in anomaly versus HoC and im like wow. this is enough to send me back to sidorovich for fucking meds

[outer depot]

Granites fuckass head shields don’t have shit on CNPP monolith shoving their arms through the wall to instakill you

[sour narwhal]

Even despite the fact that I consoled myself in a sunrise suit and a CZ-75

Was quite neat how I turned around upon hearing growling and this fucking dog was reared up like a boot growling at me, very cinematic

[outer depot]

Very nearly did but I think I die on average 5-6 times every SoC run at the end just because of how unpredictable shit is

[river lintel]

Speaking of s***** corridors sequences. I finally got around to disabling duga in my anomaly run and I forgot how many God damn monolithians flood into the base. I lost all of my companions

[eternal oyster]

I like the changes that HoC does to mutants. They feel less tanky (SOME) than gamma for instance. And even the tanky ones can be put down easily once you learn the moves and attack patterns

[outer depot]

Bro that shit gets crazy

It’s genuine chaos

[eternal oyster]

Although idk why fleshes tank more damage than boars that's weird

[outer depot]

Heads empty, brains too smooth for your bullets

[mossy nimbus]

LESS tanky?? I hardly disagree on Chimera, at the very least

[river lintel]

I kept quicksaving after I cleared a room because each time I would go further than that one of my teammates who was on route to me from the entrance cuz I left them there would die and I didn't f****** want them to

[eternal oyster]

Chimera is why the (some) is there lol

[mossy nimbus]

true, such a weird surprise that fokin' fleshes are far more dangerous than boars

[outer depot]

Chimera default HP pool in S2 is insane

[warped monolith]

Isn't the chimera strictly a "boss" type enemy in s2?

[river lintel]

No

[outer depot]

Haha I wish

[mossy nimbus]

it is kinda boss in CoP as well, along with pseudogiant

[eternal oyster]

P sure one spawns randomly in the swamps

[wicked adder]

It’s pretty rare outside of scripted sections

[wicked adder]

It ain’t random. It’s meant ti chase you to clear sky base

[river lintel]

Scripted

[mossy nimbus]

although tbf, first chimera in CoP can be put down so fast because it apparently has lowered HP and the other one you can cheese fairly easy

[wary orbit]

Who would win? a Space Marine or 3 Chimeras. My money is on the Chimeras

[wicked adder]

Space marine easily

[outer depot]

There’s another Chimera in Pripyat near the Stingray crash site and I’m still not sure if that’s scripted or not

[wicked adder]

Wait, which chapter

[eternal oyster]

I've seen two, maybe three chimeras my entire playthrough so far and it was swamps, the antenna radar shield thing that you have to clear the tracks for, and I think there was one at SIRCAA?

[outer depot]

It was there once and not the next time

[warped monolith]

is the Space Marine Titus, or another named Ultramarine?
if not, I bet on the chimeras as well

[wicked adder]

A Lamenter will find a way to lose

[river lintel]

I'm pretty sure they can randomly spawn in Pripyat

[eternal oyster]

You forget that a space marines regular bullet is just a penetrating 30mm grenade

[mossy nimbus]

there are no chimeras at crash sites afaik

[warped monolith]

considering the amount of bullshit in 40k I imagine some humans would win

[sour narwhal]

yeah i had to dredge him out of the ProhibitedAgentTypes array inside of the A-life files in order to force him into a spawnable scenario

[eternal oyster]

Orks would absolutely fucking dominate some chimera tho ngl

[river lintel]

Lasguns are considered weak in universe but they can blow holes in concrete

[wicked adder]

All about scale

[sour narwhal]

Plus the pseudogiant, and the controller. All strictly scripoted. So you dredge them out of Prohibited, put them into fallback types, wait for A-life to spawn them as "mutantGenerics"

[river lintel]

A single human withh a high las will kill em

[mossy nimbus]

Orks would dominate everything in S2, considering their Moah Dakka attitude

[eternal oyster]

The controller. Which I've fought like 15 of at least by now.
One was at the scientist bunker in yantar for God's sake, that's not a boss!

[sour narwhal]

Yeah, moreso meaning theyre manually placed as opposed to spawned in

[river lintel]

I hope we get Krorks since they are evolving to get smarter

[eternal oyster]

Controllers are like a miniboss, at best

[wary orbit]

Lets say its the best Space Marine Chapter there is. The Space Sharks

[mossy nimbus]

apparently, Wh40k universe is supposed to be so hilariously exaggerated... like comparisons with Star Wars for example - Death star blows up Alderaan? Huge tragedy in SW. Same thing happens in WH40k? Regular Tuesday

[river lintel]

Ehehehe then psi blasted in the open sucks so good

[wicked adder]

💀

The only way a Space shark like Tyberios is losing to a chimera is if he accidentally drowns in their blood

[mossy nimbus]

there was a controller there?

[outer depot]

Fuck that one he nearly made me shit

[wary orbit]

xD

Space Shark drowning that hit different

[outer depot]

I came out of the old sewer tubes after an emission (it was full of snorks)

And that fucking controller was right there

[mossy nimbus]

Ah controller, those sweet memories... like the one at the end of Agroprom Underground in ShoC

[outer depot]

And he’s in the fucking open by the lab so you can’t even run up to barrel stuff him

[eternal oyster]

There was. I'd pull up the mapgenie site and filter by controller spawns but I'm downstairs making lunch rn and cannot

[outer depot]

Because he’ll highlander you

[eternal oyster]

Mapgenie filtered by controller spawns end up looking like that one meme about map pins of all the pubs in the UK

[mossy nimbus]

thanks for detailed info on what you are doing atm /s
just kidding, bon appetit!

[warped monolith]

yeah, to a point where everything's so OP, nothing is OP

[wary orbit]

Anyways what i was trying to say was i think Mutants are a bit overtuned, and the Chimera is one of the biggest offenders. Thing takes like 2-3 RPGs

[outer depot]

I think the one at the pump station was even worse because he can get LoS on you through tiny gaps in the wood planks

And regens health too fast to snipe

[mossy nimbus]

that's why thank Monolith for mods like Grok's Modular Mutants Health

[eternal oyster]

Can't provide the thing I'd like to provide, I must explain why!
It's how my brain runs.

[mossy nimbus]

much appreciated :)

[warped monolith]

[wicked adder]

I think the pseudo giant is worse tbh. But the chimera is no doubt strong

Like the quest for the one guitar player in the village, and then a pseudo giant attacks

[eternal oyster]

But yeah I mean I was stash hunting and I swear between like 10 stash locations I found 4 controllers

[mossy nimbus]

Apparently even GCS realized that their mutant enemies are too much of a bullet sponges so they toned them down a bit

[outer depot]

I was so ready to have the battle of the century with that pseudo and then he died in like three mags of HP

[wicked adder]

I barely had three mags of ammo at all at that point, it’s just a random house

[eternal oyster]

Scientist pulled up like "I gotchu bro, stand back"

[mossy nimbus]

tbf I don't have that much of an issue with pseudogiants since those are supposed to be very hard to take down, it makes sense even lore-wise
That is why they were made rather slow

[wary orbit]

i realize that. but there shouldn't be a singular mutant out there that survives a RPG. There is IFVs that cannot tank a RPG why can mutants

[outer depot]

Zone spaghetti

[mossy nimbus]

I mean if pseudogiant barely tanks one RPG I am okay with it but chimera absolutely shouldn't survive that, I agree

[warped monolith]

because they're mutants

[mossy nimbus]

physics should still apply to them

[wary orbit]

yes but they aren't X-Men mutants they are just mutated uglies

[lunar gyro]

not the best example, ifvs tank rpgs all the time

[mossy nimbus]

BMP-1 and BMP-2 barely survive those, tbh

[eternal oyster]

Because GSC went "fuck it, make it harder to shoot through than anything else, even metal. Even concrete."

[outer depot]

A bog standard PG-7V should absolutely blow a good sized chunk out of a Pseudo though it probably wouldn’t kill it outright unless it was a headshot

[eternal oyster]

Who needs tanks, cut open a chimera and wear it like a suit

[wary orbit]

you do it first.

[warped monolith]

YOU ARE OUT OF UNIFORM, SOLDIER
WHERE IS YOUR POWER ARMOR

[wary orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/sgt-dornan-fallout-fallout-2-enclave-x-01-power-armor-gif-4650156849365803423

[eternal oyster]

"Don't have any? YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIEVE THAT, MAGGOT!?"

[mossy nimbus]

I guess that is why I appreciate what GAMMA does or what earlier Metro games did - if you go harder difficulty, make you go down faster but so will your enemies, it is much closer to IRL, I hate bullet-sponges

[warped monolith]

everyone hates bullet sponges

[outer depot]

Tbh some mutant pelts and other non artifact things to wear with your armor would be cool to have again

[quartz scaffold]

Let me ask you a question: The installation was already a problem and then this shader stuff, which easily takes 8 minutes for me. Is that normal?

[outer depot]

From modded

[eternal oyster]

Truth is, you have lost an expensive piece of army issue Equipment!

[wicked adder]

Chimera head helmet when

[lunar gyro]

started another save on veteran two weeks ago and was introduced to armourless bandits taking 20+ rounds of 5.45 to the chest and 3+ headshots

[wary orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/gleekhater-spongebob-sad-sadspongebob-gay-gif-20507767

[mossy nimbus]

did you eat already? Guess you are not yourself if you are hungry

[eternal oyster]

CH-1 "Chimera"
We cut off its head and you're wearing it. Ooga booga, bitch.

[eternal oyster]

Currently eating lol. I need not two hands for pizza pops

[wicked adder]

Mutant armour and mutant head which means mutants don’t aggro at far distances…

Man I should write this down somewhere…

[eternal oyster]

Oh wait shit the world doesn't know what pizza pops are.
Like a hot pocket but it's Canadian and more like a calzone.

[mossy nimbus]

did you fire HP by any chance?
Also, sometimes NPC armor models are not respective to what they actually have so who knows
But if you play S2 then welcome to the club

[wary orbit]

OUT -> 🚪

[lunar gyro]

its very hard to find AP in early game but they're armourless targets, HP should be better than even AP against them

[eternal oyster]

Rude! They're good!

[mossy nimbus]

but you talking about S2 or Gamma now? I know which chat we are in but want to avoid confusion

[lunar gyro]

s2

[mossy nimbus]

tbf, those things look pretty good

[eternal oyster]

GSC has critical anti-HP syndrome. HP never works as intended.

[mossy nimbus]

in that case welcome to the bullet-sponge hate club

[mossy nimbus]

Apparently forgot to adjust armor values on mutants as HP ammo is supposed to be anti-mutant
Essentially it makes the ammo useless

[eternal oyster]

Even AP, it still takes me like 6 headshots to kill an exo with 5.45 AP.

On medium difficulty, mind you. That's too fuckin many headshots.

[mossy nimbus]

veteran difficulty? I didn't have this problem on Stalker

[wary orbit]

see i had something like that served to me by my nigerian neighbors yesterday. but they called it something different.

[mossy nimbus]

oh right...

[eternal oyster]

And when suddenly the ward is attacking malachite and every soldier is in an EXO....

[lunar gyro]

i eventually folded and went through ballistic rebalance mods. better ballistics is good against humans but makes some mutants too easy to kill

[mossy nimbus]

I think this is an issue with weapon, not the ammo

[eternal oyster]

I refuse to "upgrade" to a dnipro or kharod YOU CANNOT MAKE ME

[warped monolith]

just like Interplay doesn't know what AP ammo is in Fallout 1 and 2

[mossy nimbus]

from certain point of game basically all NCPs start to carry exos (which is bs) and you have to swap to different weapons, sadly

[eternal oyster]

SVD lynx comes on in in a pinch she is my BABY

[mossy nimbus]

sweetie, believe me I don't want to force you, game does

[eternal oyster]

[mossy nimbus]

Ugh, they did Lynx so dirty in S2, it was such a end-game weapon in CoP but they nerfed it badly in S2

[lunar gyro]

the urge to use aks74u for the whole playthrough

[wicked adder]

You’ll be carrying your weight in ammo just to get through individual levels

[lunar gyro]

tbf imo its kinda good in the swamps since 5.45 is super abundant and the swamps is totally infested with fodder

[eternal oyster]

I look to you, granter of wishes, holder of keys. Grant me this wish, if you please.
viable late game AK.

[mossy nimbus]

I eagerly wait for proper ballistics rebalance, maybe Grok will do something about it

[wary orbit]

solid gun

[warped monolith]

the Strelok/Degtyarev grindset

[lunar gyro]

eventually probably i think a lot of modders are waiting until stalker 2 matures before investing into it

[eternal oyster]

You know the first proper ballistics overhaul is just gonna be "headshots always one hit because realism"

[lunar gyro]

add pause menu option to remove headshot sfx 🙏

[mossy nimbus]

oh yea, upcoming weeks and months will be filled with more patches/fixes