╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[cunning stirrup]

99%

[leaden oyster]

4days of download : }

[white yoke]

lol oop, game didnt start with the ini fixes from the old optimization patch

[cosmic gate]

Do you live on Mars?

[molten osprey]

I have 5 mbs as well and 110gigs would take 6 or 7 hours i guess wtf

[unborn kelp]

the UAC connections are kill, dont you know?

[wanton arch]

can you guys stop your downloads rq, im trying to patch my game

[rain valve]

getting 60-80 fps with forced action max settings fsr + dlss quality
3070 FE + 5600x

[subtle sun]

ah that sucks. Ig i have to scrap my old ini file

[rugged glacier]

what about input lag?

[rain valve]

feels smooth but im pretty sure htey fixed it like 2 patches ago

[cosmic gate]

I can join laughing at the joke if you explain me what UAC means 😄

[white yoke]

yeah they set it to auto off now

[unborn kelp]

United Aerospace Corporation

the dickheads in Doom who keep fucking up

[rugged glacier]

thank you. I was running the game with 2 mods + engine ini file to fix input lag.

[rain valve]

it feels good now, cant comment on a-life because I didnt play because it was missing.

i think thats how base release shouldve been and next patch after community feedback will be ideal to start on

[exotic osprey]

Cant wait six months later when they'll add cars so that I can drive into the glass shards anomaly :)

[humble hedge]

Did you guys get stuck on Compiling Shaders? Lol it's not moving

[true yew]

There's already one, wdym.
Just pop an arti into the hood and wait for an hour

[cunning stirrup]

i want more weapons and attachments

[rugged glacier]

recommend waiting 5 minutes. later verify files and restart pc

[exotic osprey]

waiting for sunrise cause this game doesnt have NVGs yet and I cant see SHIT

[wanton coyote]

Got it

[exotic osprey]

but there's an enemy there.

[humble hedge]

I'll try

[wanton arch]

from looking at the SIDs and stuff, feels like the attachment system could be modular, they just chose not to

[rugged glacier]

WAIT WHAT? I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT

[exotic osprey]

here comes the sun, doo doo doo

[subtle sun]

lmfao

[exotic osprey]

https://tenor.com/bnHxa.gif

[wanton arch]

dont blink, you'll miss sun time

[humble hedge]

I'll give it a try: 5800X3D + RTX 4090 running at 4K, everything at Ultra, with DLSS set to quality.
Will report back with how it's running, input lag feel etc

[lusty radish]

That's why you play with 1.5x day setting.

[wanton arch]

and then he never came back

[rain valve]

restarting steam fixed it for me

[hollow herald]

Doesn't that mess up some of the quests tho?

[lusty radish]

No.

[humble hedge]

I promise I'll be back

[hollow herald]

I saw people discussing it in the mod posting that changing the time cycle can mess up other stuff

[finite needle]

A life working as intended, a ward squad ust went and killed the bloodsucker in the squint mission

Can't wait for random duty squads to just go and kill the chimera in the swamps

[rain valve]

man i do hate the bloodsuckers in s2, idk how ppl deal with them

[true yew]

Stalkers doing your job for you is finally a feature? Awesome

[rugged glacier]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/410
finished using this mod since was released

[exotic osprey]

I really dont mind night time if I CAN SEE ANYTHING god please give us NVG's

[lusty radish]

Probably just base game bug. Everything worked for me after the first patch. Well, apart from A-Life.

[true yew]

Every mutant has this one critical weakness
An increase in altitude

[rain valve]

cant do that when you're in a corridor with no way back 🙂

[wanton arch]

110gb update? 💔

[finite needle]

Breaking news: This was never a feature in Stalker. This is an Anomaly bug that people were like "oh a life is so amazing" because they got paid by doing nothing

[wanton arch]

gamings biggest weakness, high ground

[hollow herald]

Thanks, when some mods are updated I will consider one for the time cycle, it's irritating going and doing 1 quest then walking back in the dark

[rugged glacier]

this mod was a life-change to me. the gameplay got 8937219x more fun

[molten osprey]

I think it could be possible with the generic "im looking for work" contract kill tasks

That some random stalkers you need to kill dies on the other side of the map isnt that unlikely

[true yew]

This vexes me...

[spark dirge]

OH i know why my game doesnt want to compile shaders anymore cause UE5tools make it so you dont have to xD

[hollow herald]

I've held off mods as the patches seem to come fast at the moment, but I will have to concider

[true yew]

Not even a chimera can stop you

[rugged glacier]

so reputation is a thing... I guess || Sid || was indeed inflating the price as usual...

[finite needle]

That's not really the problem, the problem is that the quest flags as completed either way and, to not frustrate the player, it was possibly decided to reward instead of penalize the player for it. You get penalized for stalkers dying by their own while they give you a task already.

[molten osprey]

Oh

[unborn kelp]

now if only we could actually see it aside from map markers

[rugged glacier]

just came to mind: it would be better if the mission was to kill and retreave PDA of target, so if target was killed by someone else, you need to retreave the PDA from killer by paying\killing\whatever

that would fix the "exploit"

[finite needle]

Anyway, shit still SPAWNS outside your fov, only it's much more subtle. Go in tower, nothing outside, talk to npc, get down, now there's 2 boars. Which isn't unrealistic or anythin, but still.

[uneven anchor]

Is 1.1 out on steam just now?

[white yoke]

yeah

[uneven anchor]

Nice I'm on game pass so at least I know it's coming soon, I'll keep playing gamma just now, slowly getting hooked on it 😂

[white yoke]

daaamn still didnt fix the whole wall is technically a solid object, this is safe to spawn stuff outside of

[timid oyster]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1643320/view/525329871842312365

[white yoke]

first iteration huh

[timid oyster]

@haughty sierra pin perhaps?

[broken breach]

I trust this channel more then the offical S2 discord
does this update fixes the majority of the major quest bugs and soft locks?

[white yoke]

danm stuck compiling shaders

[timid oyster]

There is a mod to remove it completely

[lusty radish]

Yeah, it's still stupid.....went in a tunnel for like a meter, came out, a band of bandits spawned on top.

Also, had dogs spawn on one side of the fence, I went out killed them, then dogs spawned on the other side of the fence...

[silk nexus]

bro bubb's pda is still a damn quest item... i'm just gonna shoot the guy instead this playthrough

[valid widget]

Hey guys, anybody played the game and can confirm if A-Life is doing what it is said in patch. If yes then i will restart my playthrough, and delete all mods since i was just about to head to pripiyat. Else if its not working i will keep my old save and just go back to playing POE2. The stalker 2 discord is a bit chaotic cause there are alot of newbies who dont know what they are saying. So here i am asking the vets and top G'. Thanks

[timid oyster]

ty I love you

[wanton arch]

could probably pin the gun stats google sheet too if possible?

[valid widget]

@broken breach i know what exactly you mean and am asking the same question. If you anything please do let me know

[stuck zenith]

something for the degens

[exotic osprey]

OW CHIMERA HURT OW OW OW

[rugged glacier]

where can I find the pink robot ingame?

[exotic osprey]

I DUMPED A HUNDRED ROUNDS INTO IT HOW IS IT NOT DEAD???

[stuck zenith]

[last knot]

Did patch fixed alife like they saying on reddit, cant play right now

[lusty radish]

Not if you have a Saiga with a drum mag.

[wanton arch]

RPK diff 🥱

dont have to reload if you have 500 rounds

[finite needle]

What does chat think a life does, exactly? Everyone is like "a life is working now?" and I'm like yea? kinda? I mean it didn't do much in the ogs, was kinda hard to see anyway, does it?

[exotic osprey]

you were saying?

[humble hedge]

Frames and performance is pretty much the same, but the input lag is worse

[tacit glacier]

52.8ms is crazy wtf

[hushed garden]

NOOOO

[rugged glacier]

tell me you're lying... TELL ME IT'S A BAD JOKE

[wanton arch]

i heard from a streamer i was watching that the input lag was bad and he noticed mouse accel

[exotic osprey]

welp, guess i'm dead.

[finite needle]

I have the exact opposite experience, I can finally aim shit, weird.

[humble hedge]

What is the main cause for input lag besides DLSS Frame Gen?

[wanton arch]

glutton user

[tacit glacier]

A lot of shit actually.
Lumen and Nanite can impact input lag on their own

[swift hare]

Performance is better for me no memory leaks so far

[hushed garden]

frankincense

[humble hedge]

The only other thing I did was to Enable Hardware-Accelerated GPU Scheduling in Windows 10.

[rugged glacier]

fsr + dlss added insane input lag in 1.0 to me... ~and the lack of mods~

[humble hedge]

Whoah, I do have some old mods installed from the previous patches, but surely they can't be responsible for input lag?

[tacit glacier]

I think this is ms?

[hushed garden]

AMD anti lag helped

[rugged glacier]

remove all mods and try again

[humble hedge]

Will do - I'll report back when it's done.

[rugged glacier]

guys, please remove all mods when updating this big. the files will conflict and can cause crashes and bugs that are not vanilla

[rose river]

does this mean that persistence npc is a thing.

[manic steeple]

Any rebalancing mods that are known to work with the new patch? Kind of want to play, but not with standard balancing/balistics, and all my rebalancing came from Maklane’s Total Overhaul which obviously has to go.

[tacit glacier]

I mean, read ahead.

[rose river]

but i dont like reading

[exotic osprey]

me too

[tacit glacier]

Players may now have opportunities to encounter A-Life NPCs they've previously met by following in the same direction as the NPCs.

If that's not persistency then I don't know what is

[rose river]

[tacit glacier]

Also yeah these are miliseconds

[humble hedge]

Restarted my PC as well just in case. Ok here we go. Let's see if we get reduced input lag after removing the mods.

[rose river]

prob gonna have to do some testing. with it.

[hushed garden]

this one better be true

[finite needle]

The fact that I was impressed I could see the mlitary patrolling the military outposts in game really made me wonder about how the game really was lmao

[finite needle]

I didn't have any enemy spawn on my back 🙂

[tacit glacier]

I'm tempted to start a new game despite having saved Zalissya before patch dropped

[rugged glacier]

is this your game or threat interactive video? dude, 7ms of taa is disgusting

[hushed garden]

i can now get the 75m kill achievement lmao

[tacit glacier]

That's not even TAA. That's TSR. And yeah that's their vid

Tweaked TAA has below 1ms

[rugged glacier]

oh year

[tacit glacier]

Its the video where they optimized the scene without using megalights to prove a point

[rugged glacier]

that's what bugs me the most. I mean, c'mon. WHY?

[rose river]

im suprise that stalker has a no AA option but turning it off make the grass and trees fizzle

[rugged glacier]

just watched it yesterday xD

[humble hedge]

Latency is still insane, it jumps between 40-90ms wtf is this

[grand egret]

Yo guys, sooo is the update a good improvement on a life or it's just bs?

[rose river]

i wonder would it be possible in the future to mod the game to the point fix alot of the issues that ue5 bring.

[humble hedge]

I'm not starting a new playthrough with 90ms input lag. How is this possible on a 5800X3D + RTX 4090?

[tall pecan]

how is the new update

[rose river]

i play with framegen soo i got xtra input cause my r 3600 and tx 6700 xt cant make it to 60 only 57

[white yoke]

its because you have a 4000 series card lol, I swear theyre all bad

[tall pecan]

are you playing on streaming service lmao

[tacit glacier]

Time to get home and download Patch 1.1
This will take a while

[rugged glacier]

fyi nvidia has it own custom UE5 engine and I read in few places it just runs better

[void steeple]

how many gigs?

[tacit glacier]

FrameGen on?

[obsidian thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/red-scared-kid-blue-scared-kid-gif-21975696

[rose river]

it does run better the final run on all setting at 60

[humble hedge]

DLSS Frame Gen yes

[tall pecan]

110GB

[void steeple]

bruh what?

[rose river]

try the finals its uses that version

[tacit glacier]

FrameGen adds input lag and DLSS is weird with this game (causes memory leaks)

[tall pecan]

turn off frame gen and turn on nvidia reflex

[rose river]

wait 110 gib update geez

[rugged glacier]

yes, the finals is a GOOD usage case of the custom UE5. I can only hope stalker replaced the engine version to improve smoothly gameplay

[humble hedge]

Where can I find the Nvidia Reflex option?

[south vigil]

none can reach above 80fps without frame gen

frame gen or dlss is a must in this game, u cant play fps with bad fps mate

[humble hedge]

DLSS Frame Gen turned off, latency is now around 50ms and holding. Frames have dropped significantly obviously.

[tall pecan]

I dont use Nvidia gpu so idk but i assume it would be in settings-> display or graphics, if not it will be on Nvidia's app

[obsidian thistle]

"Privyet sdalgers,

With great cheer we are happy to announce that the patch 1.1 has released for christmas. Take a look at the patch notes below:

• Reduced flesh armor

• Fixed main quest bugs

Thank you for your continued support,

GSC Game World"

[tall pecan]

that latency is stupidly high, are you sure it is reporting correctly? what software is that?

[south vigil]

all on epic?

[tacit glacier]

Mate I played the game with 100 fps with no framegen at 1440p on a 4080 Super

[humble hedge]

Nvidias built in software.

[humble hedge]

Yes.

[south vigil]

you use dlss gen whats the point, frame is for amd and rtx 3 series below

[tacit glacier]

Also fyi nvidia app causes 15% performance degradation.

[tall pecan]

maybe it reports something different, use msi afterburner and configure it to show frame latency

[mortal gazelle]

Guys how’s the update?

[humble hedge]

Ah right, I read something about that. Can I just shut it down or do I have to uninstall it?

[rugged glacier]

is frame latency the same as input latency?

[tall pecan]

no

[tacit glacier]

Wtf can you read?
I said I dont use fg. Any fg. Even dlss fg.
I only use tsr at 85% for better clarity

All of me talking about dlss being broken in s2 and man says I use dlss smh

[rugged dagger]

so the game just started crashing for me a lot after update.. had couple of mods before, but only mod that made some massive changes is "Optimized Tweaks S.2"... sooo, dunno if the patch helped me 😄

[rugged glacier]

oooh, didn't see the frameTIME below frameRATE xD

[tall pecan]

they are "DLSS Frame Generation" and "FSR Frame Generation" respectively

[finite needle]

||so, what actually happens now is: This offline movement thing is kind of bullshit, since stuff is still spawnin when not in LOS. The positive is that they spawn independently to you, i.e. dogs and loners might spawn and fight each other close to you to see, but not just to fight you, which is a change. Like, they don't spawn squads just for you to fight, that's the impression. I suppose there is no other way to do this in an open world.||

[obsidian thistle]

it would be a shame if you accidentally typed an "a" between the f and g when ur abbreviating frame gen haha

[wraith swallow]

there is a mod that adds content from the exclusive edition to the regular edition?

[humble hedge]

Lol so I tried using MSI afterburner instead, here's what I got:

[tall pecan]

old games also spawned entities, what is the difference

[finite needle]

none, they still kinda spawn on top of your face or when you enter some place, it's still a bit jarring but not as bad as it once was.

[tall pecan]

seems normal, how does it feel? Do you feel inparity between input and what you see on screen?

[true yew]

Rpg-7 still sucks ass
Rockets wouldnt even explode

[rugged glacier]

do you use air cooler on cpu?

[humble hedge]

It still feels like there's way too much input lag : /

[humble hedge]

Nope, 360mm Artic Liquid Freezer II AIO

[tall pecan]

Hopefully they increase minimum spawn distance

[tall pecan]

just to check, you dont have fsr frame gen enabled either right

[finite needle]

I think that would be enough for randoms, I've seen stationary squads that settled some places being visbile from a reasonable distance.

[rugged glacier]

out of curiosity, how's the temperature outside?

[finite needle]

Nice thing: The boars where you get the 100% condition TOZ are already there when you get to the place, they don't spawn as soon as you climb the place and get the gun

[humble hedge]

Room temp is around 22 celsius, inside the case around 30.

[rose river]

the perfect for alife online is 300-380 M range but man i hope enventually we get non random spawn near the player it all bunch offline alife stuff going only when u get close they turn into online.

[exotic osprey]

okay bucky calm down

[humble hedge]

No FrameGen activated this time. Only DLSS

[exotic osprey]

mog

[rugged glacier]

tbf you have a beefy setup w a beefy cpu... guess i'll invest in a liquid cooler

[exotic osprey]

d-did he just

did he really just got

[rugged glacier]

careful not to spoil the game to others...

[silk nexus]

i feel like there didn't used to be zombies in lesser zone super early game, am i wrong?

[exotic osprey]

hence the spoiler tag

[wanton arch]

|| he came while listening to C-Cons ASMR ||

[humble hedge]

Update: I tried using FSR 3.1 as upscaling method and I think it's the least bad so far lol

[gleaming thicket]

better than DLSS?

[exotic osprey]

eww

[humble hedge]

Yes

[tall pecan]

[exotic osprey]

I hate you so much lmao

[gleaming thicket]

better as in performance or as in "it does not look like absolute shit"?

[humble hedge]

Better as in, it doesn't look like absolute shit and the input lag feels "less bad".

[gleaming thicket]

got it, cheers. will try it out

[humble hedge]

I wonder if the "Enable Hardware-Accelerated GPU Scheduling" has anything to do with this.

[gleaming thicket]

does the new patch improve performance in any way? does it make it worse?

[humble hedge]

Because I did activate it.

[gleaming thicket]

where from?

[ocean laurel]

Someone tested yet performance on 3000 series?

[exotic osprey]

d o r i m e

[gleaming thicket]

3080 laptop, runs like absolute dogshit on 1080p, all medium, dlss + fsr framegen. laptop heats up like hell though

[exotic osprey]

come rain or storm, i'll shove this where the sun dont shine

[wary orbit]

a black hole?

[exotic osprey]

no, your arse

[wary orbit]

classy

[exotic osprey]

that's what "where the sun dont shine" means, your bumhole

[ivory coyote]

3070 here and was running fine on high/medium setting 1440p before patch, curious to see how its gonna go now

[rain valve]

just had a youtube recommendation that literally had in the whole thumbnail a huge spoiler about the game, ffs people are so shit.

[rugged glacier]

I did one think that I'm not sure it actually improved FPS or was placebo or the other mods was improving and it didn't make any difference, but:

update the DLSS dll file located at:
-> Steam\steamapps\common\S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Heart of Chornobyl\Engine\Plugins\Marketplace\DLSS\Binaries\ThirdParty\Win64
with the latest version: https://www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-dlss-dll/

stalker dlss is 3 versions behind the latest stable version, so I guess it made a difference, I just can't measure how much...
I'll leave it here in case anyone want to try

[rain valve]

im 3070 FE running all on epic dlss quality + fsr and its smooth 60-80 fps no problem.

[ivory coyote]

Happy to read that 🙂

[exotic osprey]

I HATE THE SWAMPS I HATE THE SWAMPS I HATE THE SWAMPS I HATE THE SWAMPS

[pliant sigil]

Monolith, send this man to the infinite swamp

[exotic osprey]

also can anyone tell me what i'm experiencing? Not the bleeding, the screen going fucky and a loud gust of wind

[finite needle]

Anyway seems my save was just bricked because I haven't had a single crash since new game

[tall pecan]

anomaly field

[exotic osprey]

its nothing serious I think, just really annoying

am i getting brainwashed to joining monolita

[wanton arch]

its an anomaly, makes your camera movement heavy

[finite needle]

Temporal anomaly field, it makes shit go fucky

[silk nexus]

thats psi damage field

[exotic osprey]

aaaah, yeah I didnt hear any beep beep so for the longest reason I thought it was just like in Cyberpunk where V would occasionally get bad headaches

[finite needle]

btw the random bullshit fights that go around the lesser zone are very reminiscing of the bullshit fights in Zaton in CoP

[silk nexus]

or at least i thought it was, considering how many fake enemies i usually encounter after being in those areas for long. coincidence?

[lusty radish]

It also slows down projectiles.

[barren wharf]

When did new patch come out????

[pulsar wave]

🙂

[pliant sigil]

But are they as bullshit as the Red Forest in GAMMA? AKA, the thunderdome

[barren wharf]

Jesus christ 1800 fixes

[exotic osprey]

Idk if im going insane but I genuinely dont remember the swamps being this ass in the original game

like, the original swamplands are neat, cute even

this is just hell

[silk nexus]

they were still really terrible, just in different ways

[pliant sigil]

To be fair, the original games don't have floating clouds of razorblades

[exotic osprey]

i'd rather get head from a bloodsucker than to step in this shithole again

[pliant sigil]

Spotted the Freedomer

[exotic osprey]

I am a freedomer but I hate this shithole even more so the bloodsucker analogy is used in a negative light here

[uncut gorge]

So is the functioning a life tanking CPU’s like has been rumored?

[exotic osprey]

fucking kill meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[barren wharf]

Guys pls rate new patch??

[wary orbit]

radiation will do that soon

[real dirge]

perfect I love the new update, the game just crashes at compiling shaders lol

[exotic osprey]

unfotunately i'm wearing a Seva suit

[true yew]

This makes some things interesting

[silk nexus]

by the way, one of the patch notes was "fixed capping impact resist with one artifact" anybody test exactly how they went about that

[humble hedge]

⏰ WHOA, I think I found the problem! In the Nvidia Overlay, there was a "Game Filter" activated for the game. I turned it off and the input lag feels WAY better.
For all Nvidia bros, try it and see if you get less input lag. ⏰

[restive prism]

Will the new patch brick my saves? I have mutant loot and project itemization installed right now.

[barren wharf]

Fixed issue that while roaming over the Zone, Human NPCs didn't satisfy their communication needs and talks.

[silk nexus]

like is it suddenly worth it to use more than just a compass now

[exotic osprey]

SSP's bugged unless they fixed it in 1.1

[finite needle]

Do this, it should stop the crashes https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/165h4pv/constant_shader_recompilation_steps_to_clear_the/

[exotic osprey]

no techie can upgrade the damn thing :(

[finite needle]

If you have nvidia that is. After that, it will sometimes jam loading but you can just kill the process and retry until it works

[real dirge]

I'm amd sad

[true yew]

They tweaked the stats for the ssp100, added psi protection and stuff
So its kinda comparable to diamond but diamond is overall better

[exotic osprey]

okay but can you upgrade it

[pliant sigil]

Not even Malachite tech can upgrade it?

[silk nexus]

it might be cheaper to maintain than diamond though, which is nice

[exotic osprey]

no one can upgrade it as far as i know

[wary orbit]

ever thought about that maybe its not supposed to be upgradeable... yet

[exotic osprey]

at least, before 1.1, dunno how it is rn tho

[exotic osprey]

Unfortunately I dont want to wait for NATO Intervention to arrive so I can have german engineers look at my suit

[wary orbit]

DLC

[crystal thicket]

YES FEEL MY PAIN. THIS LIT HAPPEND TO ME WHEN I WAS DOING THE CLEAR SKY PART OF THE MAIN STORY

I WAS OVERENCOUMBERD THE ENTIRE TIME

[pliant sigil]

German engineers fix it but replace all the parts with proprietary ones so only they can fix it at exorbitant prices

[serene girder]

It's happening boys and girls. A Life Fixes are finally arriving.

[exotic osprey]

normally I'm a hardheaded fuck with loot and refuse to part ways

THIS TIME THOUGH I ABANDONED IT SO I CAN BE ENCUMBERED IN YELLOW

FUCK THE SWAMPS ALL MY HOMIES HATE THIS HUMID WET ASS PLACE

[finite needle]

So, a weird glitch: Every time I sell a gun to Hamster a red PM gets addet to my inventory.

[exotic osprey]

Whoa, new altered item artefact

[wary orbit]

I want CS back they made the place tolerable

[pliant sigil]

Skif's pistol has finally eaten enough souls to begin reproducing. Life truly is beautiful.

[serene girder]

Thus is the way of the Zone.

[rugged glacier]

fancy new icons

[sage wolf]

Hey stalkers. Does anybody know where I can pick up a Kharod or DNIPRO in the overworld?? Is there any guaranteed spawns or would those guns be all RNG spawn? (:

[silent egret]

what the fuck... 110gb for an UPDATE?!!??

[pliant sigil]

I know there's a guaranteed Kharod or Dnipro, I forget which, in the cooling towers far to the northeast

[silk nexus]

apparently, the ue5 "content streaming" approach to storage is to blame

[wary orbit]

seriously what even is your username wtf

[silent egret]

on discord?

[humble hedge]

UPDATE: After Disabling the Nvidia "Game Filter" in the Nvidia Overlay, and after turning DLSS and DLSS Frame Gen on again FPS is once again over 100+ and input lag is under 10 ms. @rugged glacier @tall pecan @tacit glacier

[pliant sigil]

I might start my playthrough over again since everything is (apparently) less jank.

[sage wolf]

It’s not an additional 100 gb. It’s just rewriting your game files

[tacit glacier]

Ugh, disgusting.. I love it

[silent egret]

bruh

[humble hedge]

This is by far the best experience so far. It's smooth and it looks good.

[pliant sigil]

Maybe do a SMG-only or sniper rifle-only run.

[split plank]

Yeah... :c

[exotic osprey]

fuck this im gonna drink ten vodkas to forget my worries

[silk nexus]

try turning off the nvidia overlay entirely

[silent egret]

do pistol only

[exotic osprey]

salud

[finite needle]

Ok now it makes 100% sense because I have like 0 input lag now and it felt weird someone else had it so severe

[pliant sigil]

Already did that. Well, not all the way, I was just before Pripyat before this update came. I had two Rhinos and Skif's pistol.

[humble hedge]

And I'm guessing you didn't have a "Game Filter" enabled in the Nvidia Overlay ?

[tacit glacier]

I booted up Steam.
Time for the great downloadening

[sage wolf]

Surely the bug fixes and A life changes would apply to an already in progress playthrough?

[exotic osprey]

whoa

[finite needle]

I don't even know what that is, so yeah

[tacit glacier]

I uninstalled NVIDIA App entirely just now

[wary orbit]

it filters your game so its more pure game after

[warped saffron]

remember to delete your shader cache if it gets stuck compiling em

[exotic osprey]

scaaaaaaaaaaaaaar buddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :DDDDDD

[sage wolf]

Also I’ve had over 100 FPS and basically 0 input lag since the games launch so idk :3 I used to have all low settings but after realizing it’s not limited by my GPU I turned the settings to all medium/high and didn’t experience any fps drops from low quality

[exotic osprey]

imgoingtohurleugh

[clever sigil]

so apparently the nvidia app kills performance by around 15%

[sage wolf]

I have frame generation and NVIDIA low latency turned on should be noted

[humble hedge]

That's crazy Nvidia wtf

[tacit glacier]

They should've let it cook a while longer before removing it from beta

[clever sigil]

turns out its the Added AI filters to the games. if you turn them off, you get the performance back

[humble hedge]

I might not want to buy a RTX 5090 now.

[sage wolf]

Are you guys talking about the GeForce Experience app?

[late kernel]

Such as?

[humble hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-money-futurama-gif-6882124657810317443

[tacit glacier]

And now the wait begiiiins

[clever sigil]

these

[clever sigil]

its not another one right? have not finished downloading the 1.1

[wanton arch]

why is this guy carrying rpg rockets on his back like a jetpack

[tacit glacier]

I just got home

[sage wolf]

Is it this app or a different, newer one?

[rugged glacier]

THE FRICKING THING IS STILL HERE

[tacit glacier]

GeForce Experience is deprecated. NVIDIA App replaced it

And NVIDIA App is having issues

[sage wolf]

Damn when did that officially happen cuz I was using GeForce like last week

[rugged glacier]

can anyone confirm is not just me? (if anyone also has the same item in stash)

[sage wolf]

But that’s cool tho. Since I don’t even have the app I don’t gotta worry

[sage wolf]

Sell it, looks like big profit

[tacit glacier]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/12/24294442/nvidia-app-launch-beta-label-removed-features

[wary orbit]

90k for some bread sound good to me

[late kernel]

Performance is about the same in 1.1

[wide tusk]

How's that new patch Stalker 2 players ? Curious about it from people owning the game.

[rugged glacier]

the stats tho... and the other bread armor I had was fixed in patch 1.0.1... still waiting for this one

[wanton arch]

dont buy it yet

[late kernel]

Skif is so lethargic he still runs out of breath after a couple knife swings

[sage wolf]

I’ve been on the hunt for a weight artifact that’s stronger than “weak” for a minute guys. I need that shit badly

[wide tusk]

Looks like they are at least trying to get the game in a better state.

[subtle sun]

As broken and unoptimized stalker 2 might be, its the only game I've played in a while that feels fun to play, instead of having the gut it only to just complete the story. All the other games in playing I just go "yup thats enough for today" after not even 1 hour of playing and forget about them for 2 weeks, while with stalker 2 I play it for like 3 hours and I'm like "man I dont really wanna quit rn"

[late kernel]

1.1 patch, AI still walks in one place

[tacit glacier]

People hate him for knowing this little trick

StaminaPerAction : struct.begin
LowCrouch = 0
Crouch = 0
Walk = 0
Run = 0
Sprint = 3.5
Climb = 0
Jump = 8.0
MeleeNormal = 6.0
MeleeStrong = 10.0
MeleeButstock = 6.0
Vault = 6.0
struct.end

[sage wolf]

Interesting

[tacit glacier]

It's in objprototypes

[late kernel]

I don't know how to mod stalker 2 lol

[wary orbit]

the fact that they even gave melee attacks a stamina consumption is funny to me. Its not like we are swinging sledgehammers

[wanton arch]

it doesnt feel intended to use the knife to kill mutatns either, so idk whats the point

[tribal pumice]

would say knife is mostly used around stealth tbh

[late kernel]

yeah but bashing multiplie boxes at the same time?

[subtle sun]

As someone told me some time ago, gaming is not dead, "growing up" didnt affect your gaming, you're just not playing for fun

[late kernel]

Or killing Tyrant

[pliant sigil]

Sledgehammer was hilarious in GAMMA. I remember specifically bringing one so I could bonk Chernobog on the head.

[tribal pumice]

this lol

[sage wolf]

I definitely think the weight and stamina limits are a bit much in this game. I NEVER really had weight problems in a stalker game before. But in Stalker 2 I’m almost always overencumbered on a trip back from a mission with my loot. It’s not like I’m taking every gun in sight either. In fact, usually no guns or armor are even being carried and I’m still overweight

[tribal pumice]

glad they fixed the stealth system though

[finite needle]

To get the achievement to kill an exo dude, and to do one (1) quest if you don't side with Spark

[subtle sun]

Theres a mod on nexus that reduces the weight of consumables and ammo. It has like 3 options, no weight, 50% weight or 75% weight

[sage wolf]

To break wood boxes 😄

[tacit glacier]

Damn they added L85 to STALKER 2 Though graphics seem off. For legal reasons this is a joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yHCS6dxPqY

[wanton arch]

the graphics are better then stalker 2 already

[exotic osprey]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[subtle sun]

Thats my main problem with gaming rn. Nothing really is fun for me. I tried playing rdr recently and it didnt go well. I dont really find it fun.

Stalker 2 on the other hand I find it really fun, even tho I may encounter frequent crashes, constant bugs, ass performance and the must to use like 10 billion mods

[tribal pumice]

lmfaoooo bro wants to tell you something

[true yew]

As said in patch notes iirc

[subtle sun]

Why's bro so smooth

[tribal pumice]

bro really said

[warped monolith]

bro has no concept of personal space

[true yew]

"||The Tyrant does not care about rules!||"
Good for him, I don't as well

[wary orbit]

don't just stand there posturing, do it

[tacit glacier]

Just a bit longer

[late kernel]

Why tarkov scav sounds come oooon bro

[rugged glacier]

WASSSUUR

[exotic osprey]

"you got games on yo phone?"

[pliant sigil]

"Do you guys not have phones?"

[tacit glacier]

*pda
ftfy

[true yew]

Did
Bro thought he's him, had to teach him he's not

[rustic kraken]

How is the new patch?

[pliant sigil]

"They must have amnesia, they forgot that I was him!"

[wary orbit]

fire the RPG at him you sissy

[pliant sigil]

Aaaand I got the infinite shader compiling

[true yew]

I killed him with the RPG

[wary orbit]

nvm

https://tenor.com/view/ranger-quake-doom-eternal-rocket-launcher-jump-gif-25254132

[finite needle]

Does the weird flower actually do anything or is it just a meme?

[willow skiff]

Yoooooo

[pliant sigil]

If you sleep while having it on your belt, it will make you harder to detect for a while

[wary orbit]

it makes you more stealthy after sleeping with it

[willow skiff]

They fixed a-life! Omg! BiG W

[wary orbit]

its the equivalent of...

[finite needle]

A shower?

[bronze cloak]

Can now run game with higher settings

[finite needle]

The weird flower I meant

[wary orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-and-seek-kyle-kidd-nannymaw-trying-to-hide-behind-tree-twig-gif-21993312

[exotic osprey]

...what the fuck is that in ||rostok||>

am i blind? i never noticed that.

[pliant sigil]

It’s been there.

[exotic osprey]

riiiight.

[warped monolith]

I hope this means guns will stop appearing in my inventory randomly

[finite needle]

Get back to Zalissya
Notice some NPC standing there awkwardly, open PDA to check something real quick, he just diasppeared out of thin air
Move to steps, notice he's in front of a wall
He's taking a piss
mfw I thought he was stuck

[warped monolith]

if roaming stalkers spawn properly, their guns won't find their way into my equipped slots anymore

[late kernel]

Partly, its only the first iteration. Still not as good as in older games

[true yew]

Truly, an A-life moment

[warped monolith]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1643320/view/525329871842312365?l=english full patch notes here

[true yew]

I like how no one talks about the arch anomalies in-game
Unless I'm missing something

[tacit glacier]

[warped monolith]

ok I can play! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[humble hedge]

Vibe

[tacit glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[lost isle]

Did they fix lighting or something?

That shit looks fire

[little plume]

Did they make every stash visible? Is that a bug?

[finite needle]

Is it me or Valik Lummox's AK fucking sucks

[tacit glacier]

wdym

[warped monolith]

isn't that the literal first unique weapon you find

[lost isle]

Not just you

[warped monolith]

makes sense that it's not great, it's just an AK with a scope

[lost isle]

The stats are actually worse in every way. There is a Reddit post with all dumped weapon stats

[finite needle]

I feel like the MP5 is overall better against talkers

[warped monolith]

which one is best against mutes?

[finite needle]

MP5 obv, or the TOZ.

[warped monolith]

r/whoosh

[pliant sigil]

Against mimes, you’re better off using the invisible RPG

[wary orbit]

personally i think headphones work better

[finite needle]

This joke only works if I notice my typo smh

[warped monolith]

[tall pecan]

so how is the a-life in the new update

[clever sigil]

alive

[tall pecan]

it teleports you to some loot location

[wary orbit]

mostly a

[exotic osprey]

uh huh

[tall pecan]

im serious

[exotic osprey]

[tall pecan]

it teleports you to on top of shit it teleported to in garbage, there is upgrade blurprint for something as well

[late kernel]

STALKER 2 is fixed guys, trust me. Ignore this flashing image bug.

[tall pecan]

"The cause of death is now correctly displayed on the Death Screen." no more bloodsucker photos?

[tacit glacier]

Nah, it just says how you died

[tall pecan]

i always thought it was supposed to show photos of stuff we died to but it was bugged, sad

[warped monolith]

[finite needle]

At least I can meet stalker squads on the road and hear them ask me to talk with their leader

[warped monolith]

yeah I thought they intended to make it like Metro 2033...

[wary orbit]

well i'm pretty sure its accurate for everyones first death

[tacit glacier]

S h a d e r C o m p i l a t i o n

[pliant sigil]

Fun and cool fact: A Rhino fired at center mass will instantly kill a non-exo Warden even on Veteran difficulty

[ivory coyote]

I don't understand why vanilla game have this shader compilation loading screen for so long and why I can bypass that with a simple mod with apparently no impact or performance cost.

[sleek oasis]

FINALLY

[sleek oasis]

UE5 was a mistake

[ivory coyote]

Could use a more elaborate explaination haha

[exotic osprey]

what mod is that?

[sleek oasis]

If compiles shaders only first time you do it

[ivory coyote]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/97

[sleek oasis]

Then it only "warms up" them, which is skippable with mod

[ivory coyote]

Oh well ok that simple haha, still don't get why devs let it like that but..

Thanks modders eh ! Haha

[sleek oasis]

In theory, if you try to start from fresh install without compiling - your playthrough would start with massive lagfest

[late kernel]

Patch 1.1, AI still spawning from behind

completely random loner vs monolith encounter

[warped monolith]

[proud ruin]

Does the new patch actually fix alife

[sleek oasis]

Cut A-Life some slack, it's tired and forgot to switch encounter to online mode

[proud ruin]

[late kernel]

Only the first iteration

[proud ruin]

UE5 is hot garbage

[finite needle]

Also, the random loner vs monolith encounter is a prime example of a life

I have no clue what yall expect at this point

[exotic osprey]

whoaaaa

[proud ruin]

they should of used monolith xray fork

[molten osprey]

could it be that this happened because of an existing savefile?

[exotic osprey]

bwuh-where am i

[finite needle]

the other example is some goober trekking all the way from cordon to garbage to sit in a fire and die

[clever glen]

Lol, I wonder how my horribly modded save will react to all these changes. I'm ready to get bricked

[sleek oasis]

I really suspect that you need to let a-life to "sober up" by sleeping for 2-3 days, just like with mods

[molten osprey]

Ah yes the screen where i had the most fear in all of the game, because it screams IM GONNA CRASH HIHI

[late kernel]

How? I don't use broken AI mods

[exotic osprey]

is this the part where i say "well that just happened"

[wanton arch]

its unrealistic to have to start a new save file every new update

[sleek oasis]

May be corrupt offline data from previous versions

[exotic osprey]

guys i think that portal fucked up my gun

[sleek charm]

A-Life is fixed?

[pliant sigil]

rescue ||Solder|| from ||Monolith||
he thanks me for saving his ass again
nonchalantly walks down hallway to a room filled with ||Monolith||
instantly gets mowed down
such is life in the Zone

[late kernel]

Or i could just sleep a day or two in-game to refresh the system

[molten osprey]

Nah i have no idea, maybe some ais still have to adapt to the new settings. Like they were there before you updated, and their ai hasnt really updated because of that. something like that

[sleek oasis]

Yeah, just like I wrote above

I'm starting Ward aythrough anyways, completed one of stalker ones on 1.0.3

[late kernel]

I didnt read your message didnt see

[molten osprey]

||at the start of the game i googled if he will be helpful in the future storyline and every article was like HE WILL BE EXTREMELY USEFUL IN A FUTURE FIGHT. yeah so that was a massive lie and i could have killed him right there and then ||

[karmic stream]

there are like 5 million people in each group after the new a life update

[vernal light]

What size have the patch?

[sleek oasis]

He's the scripted sniper that one-taps you on trespassing Duga

[molten osprey]

[warped monolith]

110 gb

[vernal light]

[sleek oasis]

13 on xbox tho

[vernal light]

[molten osprey]

i had like two moments where i completely raged, malachite, and this bullshit

[exotic osprey]

lads, do I stick with a reliable Riemann or should I try out the AS Lavina

[vernal light]

I have 15 mb internet 🤣

[warped monolith]

you're asking an AS Val enjoyer if you should try the AS Val

[warped monolith]

good luck

[exotic osprey]

no no, the Lavina, the one without the scope

[boreal tide]

Anyone know if Flashlight Tweaker actually NEEDS Simple Mod Loader or does it just require consoe access

[rocky wing]

hello chat, does anyone know a mod that allows for more sprint stamina that works for the new patch?

[sleek oasis]

Imagine me trying to backdoor from the very west in second assault only to get slapped until I go to residental district

[pliant sigil]

Guys where’s the AMB-17 in Stalker 2

[sleek oasis]

That's a lot of walking and dying

[warped monolith]

I said what I said

[pliant sigil]

I dislike that games feel the need to separate AS Val and VSS as two separate guns when they’re the same damn gun, just with different peripherals and standard magazine sizes.

[sleek oasis]

Laughed a bit when you could turn ak into svd into val into vss in Fallout 4/76

[slender nebula]

But isnt that what they are anyways?

The AS Val and the VSS may be the same gun, but different versions of the same gun?

[exotic osprey]

why is he hitting the nae nae

[warped monolith]

they are different guns

that's like saying a Saiga is just an AK chambered for 12 gauge

[short wren]

Did the new update actually fix a-life?

[mint holly]

Well they are separated in real life too, with one being considered a sniper rifle and one being meant for close/medium range

[timid oyster]

gai life is back

[warped monolith]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[wary orbit]

they are identical except the buttstock

[exotic osprey]

why the hell can I not attach a red dot sight on the AS Lavina?

[pliant sigil]

The only things different about them are the magazines and peripherals. Internally, 100% interchangeable. That’s like saying two glocks are different guns because one has an extended magazine.

[exotic osprey]

there's a picatinny right there

https://tenor.com/bS9vm.gif

[sleek oasis]

Except their real differences are mag(interexchangeable), stock, grip and fragility

[exotic osprey]

this game's fun but some areas are genuinely stupid, honestly

[tacit glacier]

The AS Val is the assault rifle counterpart to the VSS Vintorez sniper rifle. It is equipped with a folding stock, pistol grip, and generally uses 20-round magazines (also usable by the VSS Vintorez), and it uses a slightly different 9x39mm round. The AS can also use a PSO-1 scope like the VSS.

[clever glen]

Holy shit I got domed by the monolith sniper in Jupiter like 10 times. The one right after the gap in the trains. The level of stunlock in this game from all enemies feels really strange. Some fights feel like a CoD campaign on easy mode, and some feel like you get hit a single time and it's just death

Any random mod rework of CoP or anomaly felt better than this

[sleek oasis]

The one that blocks you from going in unintended way? You're supposed to get passage from Yaniv or sneak through infested tunnel

[clever glen]

Yeah I got him eventually

And I didn't know it wasn't intended lul

[short wren]

So I'm guessing this means a-life is fixed?

[sleek oasis]

He ate a suspicious amount of 9x39 AP rounds from my VSS

[clever glen]

He took an entire mag from my Lynx

[sleek oasis]

More surprised there's no scripted oneshot like on Duga

[exotic osprey]

@warped monolith i'm sorry but im gonna stick with the Kiss Kiss Vektor because I cant put a bloody red dot sight on the slavica

[clever glen]

Funny that degtaryev wants to gatekeep the zone. What a fucking fed, the zone is for everyone

[pliant sigil]

Never call it that again

[viscid steppe]

From what I hear A-Life not actually "fixed". Definitely getting there though.

[exotic osprey]

which one

[short wren]

Guh damn it

[sleek oasis]

Well, Zone twisted his will to protect his hometown after 10 years...

[rough arrow]

How is new a life?

[mint holly]

It's definitely an improvement as I've actually seen stuff happen now whereas before only behind spawns. I'm not sure A-life will ever truly match the old versions

[wanton arch]

i doubt it can while running on ue5

[sleek oasis]

At least he's not batshit insane like Strelok or Scar

[pliant sigil]

Where's the ending where we go "fuck all y'all, I'm going to chill with Degtyarev in his Merc clubhouse"

[sleek oasis]

Seems like a decent guy still

[exotic osprey]

I want the ending where Skeefa builds a house

[clever glen]

Deggy, please, sell me your strongest Pripyat pass.

Stalker, you are too weak. You cannot handle Pripyat, it would kill you.

[wanton arch]

gamma 2.0 skeefa house building leaked?

[clever sigil]

so far it seems that a-life is working now

[mint holly]

Yeah, I feel like this is just one of the tradeoffs of ue5. I mean the game is already hard on cpus as it is

[sleek oasis]

Don't you like your corporate apartments? 😦

[leaden roost]

this new patch was FAT

[warped monolith]

[wanton arch]

id much rather take loading screens between areas over the boredom of traveling an almost empty world

[river adder]

fps is lower with this new patch?

[boreal tide]

[warped monolith]

@golden hazel SKEEFA WE MUST DOWNLOAD A 110 GB UPDATE FOR THE SHINING ZONE SKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[wary orbit]

all you need to know about the AS Val the VSS Vintorez is that they are pretty much the same and completely interchangeable. And the SR-3M is better than both

[mint holly]

I 100% agree

[boreal tide]

But in all seriousness significant improvements have been reported by most, aer your running any 'optimizers'?

[sleek oasis]

I'm more convinced that transitions between areas are made so barren and narrow to hide actual loading

[leaden roost]

Just loaded into my save after the patch download and 20 enemies ambushed me

[sleek oasis]

Open world my ass

[flint sandal]

UwU @ionic swan

[mint holly]

It's genuinely possible you could have lower fps due to the a-life improvements. I mean stuff is spawned further now and everything. I did feel like my performance was actually a bit worse when I played aswell but I'm not sure

[timid oyster]

SKEEEFA, RAD TEBYA VIDET, BRAT!!!!

[warped monolith]

I only understood "brat"

[timid oyster]

glad to see you, brother

[sleek oasis]

Try to set hair quality to medium or lower - that was the requirement for a-life extended

[timid oyster]

"Hair collides with A-Life"
...And some people have the audacity to say that this is not "real stalker"

[sleek oasis]

More like they forgot to add LOD models and behaviours to hair so you have Minecraft people with glorious hair

[exotic osprey]

this screams "My daddy owns a fortune 500 company"

[sleek oasis]

Veles was taken away for DIU?

[mint holly]

Npcs seem to just devour your cpu in this game. I don't see them ever being able to have a-life match the old unfortunately. I guess it is what it is

[leaden roost]

god the game runs SO MUCH better

[exotic osprey]

I havent gotten the Veles yet

[sleek oasis]

I got it way later than I wanted to. Spoiled by Clear Sky, I guess?

[tall pecan]

is it possible to get that muzzle for og integral

[hollow iron]

Anybody learned Ukranian yet via the game?

[warped monolith]

no

[hollow iron]

Need a mod to teach me

[exotic osprey]

Pistol Silencer yes

[exotic osprey]

I SURE WISH I CAN READ THE FUCKING SIGNS AND GRAFITIS SPLATTERED ACROSS THE WORLD, WOULD BE NICE

[tall pecan]

this??

[uneven anchor]

Xbox patch out yet?

[mint holly]

I wish learning a language was that easy

[misty cloud]

So how is A-Life after the update?

[finite needle]

"dobre" "tak" "skeefa" are the 3 essential words you need, in order to master the language

[sleek oasis]

Knowing Russian gives you some headstart for sure

[exotic osprey]

yeh, this one's special cause its a speshal vektor but you can slap on a pistol suppressor on a regular one

egh, I like this scope but its tan

[sleek oasis]

You forgot "Blyaha"

[leaden roost]

[exotic osprey]

Blyaha?

[mint holly]

On the other hand if you are a native English speaker languages like Russian and Ukranian are basically as hard as it gets to learn, along with like Japanese

[exotic osprey]

why isnt this in the main game

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/665

[sleek oasis]

Literally translates to "Belt buckle"

[warped monolith]

blahaj

[potent merlin]

It's like they didn't know why the binos in COP had the target ID feature

[exotic osprey]

idk if you can use the shork as a belt buckle but you can hug it

[exotic osprey]

Stalker 2 feels like a great stalker game made by people that has missing memories

[sleek oasis]

He starts showing sick breakdance moves when I try to

[wary orbit]

thats why everyone should learn german instead

[exotic osprey]

GFDI we're in CS GO territory

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/915

[sleek oasis]

One of returning features from SotC I didn't miss

[potent merlin]

I'd like binos with at least the zoom of the sniper scope

[exotic osprey]

literally the only two words you have to learn auf deutsch

"Das dort"
"brot"

[warped monolith]

and "doch"

[exotic osprey]

doch isnt a word more so a noise they make

[wary orbit]

falsch

[warped monolith]

the only truly difficult part of rus/ukr is trying to figure out why people pronouce "o" as "a" for some words
No. I will not stop complaining about this.

[exotic osprey]

this is a joke

[wary orbit]

nicht witzig

[warped monolith]

just like "no u"

[cold glen]

Does this mean I can ''Run'' the game now or has this fixed some bug that doesnt really change preformance?

[mint holly]

I honestly thought about learning German cause I think it is cool but I ended up choosing Spanish because I've never encountered anyone speaking German before whereas Spanish is pretty common so more opportunities to make use

[cold glen]

I wanna learn german

[exotic osprey]

exactly, or “ach so!”

[cold glen]

I'm dutch I practically have some use for it

[wary orbit]

both of you are wrong

[tall pecan]

i want that muzzle ;(

[exotic osprey]

this is a speshal muzzle

[cold glen]

Anyways how does it run now I'd like to know before I re-instal the game and cause half my GB to be used

[molten osprey]

they cant understand peak language, let them

[warped monolith]

doch

[molten osprey]

touche mbo

[warped monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1063755770027573252/1316188196719038527/steam-laugh.gif

[molten osprey]

as a german its so weird that english has no real "doch"

[cold glen]

Hello neighbour its me your smaller neighbour the dutch

[warped monolith]

even portuguese has it

[wary orbit]

its a language far more simple,

[warped monolith]

we say "teu cu"

[molten osprey]

true we have a word for anything

[molten osprey]

hello le dutch i gonna smonk some of your flowers now lmao

[cold glen]

But guys can I please get a answer does stalker 2 still stutter the living hell?

[wary orbit]

yes because our language allows for it like it was intended. They just steal stuff that sounds cool and then pronounce it wrong

[hollow iron]

Would be cool to have different nationals in ther zone

[molten osprey]

americans saying kindergarten makes me salty to this day

[wary orbit]

oh they actually say Kindergarden now

[mint holly]

It's kinda hard since everyone's experience will probably be a bit different. I could be wrong but I didn't notice any great performance increase with the patch, but your mileage will vary

[warped monolith]

americans using a billion french words, too

[cold glen]

What do you run?

[warped monolith]

like rendezvous

[wary orbit]

yes but thats because those were in the language before you bastardized it even more in the colonies

[cold glen]

As in what does your PC contain

[warped monolith]

who the fuck is "you"

[molten osprey]

Isnt mbo from Brazil?

[mint holly]

4080 5600x, so I'm held back by cpu which causes me stuttering in areas with alot of npcs, but I do run the game at max well enough for the most part

[cold glen]

RTX?

[limpid quarry]

How big is the new update?

[molten osprey]

110 Gigs. No joke

[cold glen]

Bro again

[limpid quarry]

Huh???

[wary orbit]

you americans i guess, if you are not don't feel adressed i guess?

[mint holly]

Yeah

[cold glen]

Yeah then it wont be better for me I run rtx 3050 laptop

But atleast we plan to buy a new pc soon

[leaden roost]

anyone know if any mods currently break the game with new update?

I know A-life extended broke things and i got rid of it

[mint holly]

Mine were all fine but I didn't have anything major in terms of mods

[leaden roost]

so far a life was the only big red flag for me atm

[wary orbit]

English used to be german then they moved to the island, got weird and isolated, got owned by the vikings and adopted a shit ton of words like "knive" and pretty much any other word with "ive" in it, then the french came and owned them and also inserted a bunch of weird bastardized latin into their language and then they moved to America where they invented fastfood and american footbal lost their last few marbles and finished the bastardization of the language.

[finite needle]

Shocking: Language evolves!

[frigid rain]

football came from canada

[rich tapir]

Mine is still downloading, tho patch doesnt increase game size it just replaces old files, so u wont be using more of your storage

[warped monolith]

except german it seems

[molten osprey]

i dont see it that serious, i just dont like how they pronounciate our words but at the same time i like the effort

my english is absolutely butchered as well (see?)

[frigid rain]

we don't have that dam letter U in everything over here

[molten osprey]

we have Ü

[frigid rain]

we put together a united states without something so terrible as the euro that should have never existed

[leaden roost]

wish our toilets were named poopenfarten

[molten osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/imma-head-out-ight-imma-head-out-head-out-spongebob-meme-gif-20342316

[frigid rain]

a guy in germany forced the euro though because he knew most germans would have voted against it

[cold glen]

well ima still probally not download it till i got a new pc

[warped monolith]

this is getting political

[wary orbit]

i like Ö better though, as in Öffentlicher Nahverkehr

[frigid rain]

without consolidating all of their debts, the members of the EU have doomed themselves to failure in every way

[molten osprey]

and just plainly wrong because i hate it when people assume about the thoughts of people they dont even know

[neat oxide]

Ah yes the STALKER 2 chat where I get to discuss about the game that released recently, EU politics

[pulsar wave]

just a reminder to not pause the update on steam 🙂

[pure garnet]

How's the patch brothers?

[frigid rain]

in murica we call football and other sports just sportsball now because it is so boring and unentertaining we just don't care as much anymore as we used to

[warped monolith]

let me guess... if you pause it, it'll download from scratch all over again once you click resume?

[pulsar wave]

yep

[warped monolith]

classic steam.

[pulsar wave]

imma go cry

[warped monolith]

small indie company, give them a break you guys

[tall pecan]

why anomalies are not affected by bullets but by bolts

[molten osprey]

yeah like microsoft, had that on the first xbox patches as well

[wary orbit]

physics

[warped monolith]

bullets go by too fast to trigger the anomaly?

[molten osprey]

what if i shoot the anomaly from 200 ms away so the velocity decreased

[frigid rain]

bolts move slow enough to disturb the anomaly and is part of that game mechanic

[warped monolith]

does the anomaly even render ingame at that distance

[tall pecan]

first 15 minutes and enemies spawned and saw me 😭 7 military soldiers

[pure garnet]

Za monolita

[warped monolith]

oof. a-life is fixed now, guys! trust!

[frigid rain]

devs want you close enough to the anomaly to be bothered by the consequences of your actions with it

[molten osprey]

hell nah i played on xbox, 75m spawn radius was probably the render distance

[mint holly]

I think everyone walking around just shooting the shit to look for anomalies would be a somewhat dangerous idea

[wary orbit]

ms is milliseconds, so 200 ms away ist still right next to it

[neat oxide]

I see nothing wrong, Za Monolita

[tall pecan]

i killed two of them and they forgot i exist, they are walking away now

[frigid rain]

and I bet noontide mechanic still can't upgrade a zircon suit

[molten osprey]

mimimi

[wary orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/burla-gif-26720060

[frigid rain]

ms is also an abbreviation for multiple sclerosis

[wary orbit]

yes but u capitalize that

[mint holly]

Great idea,Anomalies are just like bosses, they get a big ass healthbar and you mag dump them until they die

[frigid rain]

or just run into them

[wary orbit]

Also 200 Mutiple Sclerosis away doesn't make sense.

[alpine swan]

hi folks, how to check which faction belongs particular corpse? I play nohud so not sure if it is a loner or bandit

[tall pecan]

check their uniform, bandits wear weird hoodies and shit

[warped monolith]

"must have been the wind" moment

[tall pecan]

nvm that was fast alarm, freedom and mercenaries spawned together

[frigid rain]

glad I didn't update this game yet

[warped monolith]

also I find it very unironically hilarious that the resident german is a grammar you-know-what

[alpine swan]

it is not clear. After this update spawns are more intense. 5-10 enemies and it is a mess to check who is who

[frigid rain]

no grammar for you!

[molten osprey]

silencer? makes them forget everything

[wary orbit]

Ja?

[frigid rain]

I think human enemies should spawn less not moar since they leave behind a lot of stuff

[tall pecan]

it doesnt show who they are even with hood, you will need look at their uniforms

[alpine swan]

dang, that is difficult puzzle to solve

there are tons of corpses. Where to look in particular? They don't have patches like in anomaly

[tall pecan]

they made enemies stroll but forgot to adjust dialog things 😭

[frigid rain]

When talking to an npc the whole experience of that reminds me of the oblivion game and I couldn't figure out why, then I noticed they almost always wear hoods and the way the hoods look while their necks are uncovered seemed to be the biggest red flag lol. Everyone is in the zone where it is super dangerous on all levels but they have a hood on and no neck and ear coverings like really? There is also lighting issues under their hoods just like in oblivion lol.

[alpine swan]

This guy. Is it loner or bandit or spark?

[wary orbit]

loner

[alpine swan]

dang, this patch is hilarious. They spawned 5 bandits and 5 loners in one place

[frigid rain]

sometimes the npc name kinda reflects who they represent

[stuck condor]

Same in GAMMA

[molten osprey]

I dont think you can find such gear on a bandit, and sparks have weird blue/green color to their suits

[frigid rain]

anyone else notice how the walking style for npcs is almost exactly the same as in stalker 1 games?

[pure garnet]

Hello I am John Loner

[stuck condor]

Yeah, 1000+ fixes?
Feels like 0 performance issues were fixed

[hazy apex]

this was not the optimization patch thats fs

[frigid rain]

The bandit names are even worse

[wary orbit]

you mean turquoise

[ember ether]

so it didnt fixed the performance

[hazy apex]

new a-life feels pretty good. i hate the UI indicators and lack of visibility so it still feels pretty jank like enemies spawning 50m in front of me

[molten osprey]

Danke

[hazy apex]

they def tweaked something with their NPC controllers but running game with 4070, i7 12700k, no real difference in frames for me

[frigid rain]

without proper optimization the spawning problems will continue

[wary orbit]

Gern geschehen.

[hazy apex]

i def dont think its full a life and is more representative of what mods have been up to recently, but core systems seem to be at least present in the game

[ember ether]

its only half life

[warped monolith]

remember

[ember ether]

[finite needle]

Now, for a serious consideration: GSC said this was the first iteration of a life fixex. I have no idea who came up with the notion that a life is fixed

[wary orbit]

imagine Valve releases a game called Full Life instead of HL³

[winged eagle]

how do i turn this off without turning off the whole compas

[stuck condor]

Life ™️

[livid hearth]

Haven't downloaded the fricken 110 GB update yet. Have they at least done some good work towards A Life?

[stuck condor]

They did focus mostly on that

[winged eagle]

zone tm chaotic

[frigid rain]

gonna wait this patch out and see what else happens like a sneaky scientist would do heh

[hazy apex]

its def a reasurring step forward that they do want to finish the game as fast as possible

[livid hearth]

Is it a noticable change in game?

[warped monolith]

"first batch of a-life fixes". It says at the beginning of the patch notes.

[finite needle]

It is noticeable, yes.

[frigid rain]

they have to fix their fixes after this

[hazy apex]

zone no longer exlcusive

[wary orbit]

Gesundheit

[shadow sphinx]

game has a life now?

[hazy apex]

"a-life"

[twin kraken]

Game has no performance

I literally can't play it now

10 fps in bumfuck nowhere
With 3 soldiers fighting 4 flesh

[hazy apex]

spawner is j better

[tall pecan]

at which distance enemies did despawn before?

[tired stone]

you need a pretty good cpu for this game man i upgraded my CPU for it years ago and now my upgrade is not even good enough

[twin kraken]

"good cpu"

Cpu utilization 20-40%

[mint holly]

exactly why it was all turned down so low at launch

[shadow sphinx]

is my Cyrix 486 clone good enough

[twin kraken]

At least i managed to finish the game at 1.0.2 version

1.0.3 began to chug
And 1.1 basically killed my 2nd run

[wary orbit]

mods?

[twin kraken]

None

[wary orbit]

shaders did their compiling thing?

[shadow sphinx]

"modern audiance" developers don't know what Big O is.

[tall pecan]

im playing with 1600AF from 2019, which was midrange cpu back then. I see 80-95% utilization and 50-100fps with fsr framegen

[twin kraken]

Yes

[wary orbit]

welp

wait for hotfix? sry for not being of any help

[twin kraken]

Im on 5800x, that gets utilized at best 45%
Rtx 3070.
At 2k with dlss + fsr, its less than 60 fps

[wary orbit]

have you considered playing @ 1080p?

[uneven anchor]

I can't even get the game running now 🙃

[tall pecan]

duty and freedom soldiers together

[twin kraken]

Brother
I played at 640x400 for 9 years
Than barely 720p for 5 years

Im done with toaster settings and lower res

[finite needle]

||at the beginning of the game, they aren't hostile||

[twin kraken]

If the game is this shit to run, icba to lower my settings just to play it

[abstract lagoon]

Breh, 1080 isn't toaster

[finite needle]

||later, supposedly, they are. But I've never seen the two interact ||

[wary orbit]

i hardly consider 1080p low res but ok

[twin kraken]

But there's no point to lower it to 1080, then lower it further with dlss if you end up needing more fps

Dlss upscales a downscalled image, and it looks blurry af as is

[tall pecan]

only blatant issue i see with NPC groups is they dont stroll together, there are like 10-30metres between them

[wary orbit]

1080p DLSS, DLAA quality

[pliant sigil]

So now that A-life is working, somewhat, what happens if Freedom or Duty run across Ward in the wild?

[twin kraken]

Blur

[hollow iron]

wild adult contentz

[wary orbit]

mine is sharp as it gets

[pliant sigil]

Stalker 2 is tool real, where’s the Playstation 1 graphical overhaul mod

[eager solstice]

@turbid heart (fav_1zyy) has been banned for reason: compromised account

[tall pecan]

a bit ago monolith and military fighting, i wasnt there to see if they spawned together or just run into each other

[hollow iron]

Honestly I find all the factions way too accepting of the Ward

Civil war kind of lacking

[finite needle]

I don't think "accepting" is the right word

[hollow iron]

What is the right word

[wary orbit]

knuckling under

[molten osprey]

man the ward build a scientific institute while duty and freedom were still trying to get control over rostok/janow station. I think the factions are on another level, as stated in loading screen tips

[pliant sigil]

It’s more like they know they can’t fight Ward on anywhere near equal footing so they try to keep their heads down and do things on the sly. Well, for Freedom anyway. Duty is largely irrelevant these days

[warped monolith]

the players wanted better A-Life and more npcs roaming around
that's what they got

monkey's paw has granted their wish

[pliant sigil]

I watched a herd of fleshes run merrily into a razor anomaly and die one after another. Very immersive.

[finite needle]

I've seen my first Freedom patrol, so that's exactly what we god

[twin kraken]

My honest reaction to all this

[wary orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/barbeku-mangal-kebap-sis-kebap-piknik-gif-11639894

[finite needle]

Nature is healing

[warped monolith]

nature is beautiful

[hushed garden]

I'm using frame gen and tsr and also enabled anti lag on amd adrenalin and getting 80 - 120 fps on 2k, only have a 7800xt but also a 7800x3d which should cause bottlenecking

[twin kraken]

Frame gen, antilag, tsr, nitrous oxide, spell of extra boost, E85

Just to get 120fps at 2k

[hushed garden]

its wild lol

[twin kraken]

Pinnacle of modern gaming

[warped monolith]

don't forget panzerschokolade

[wary orbit]

you forgot MSG

[hushed garden]

still some input lag but have to accept that theres no better way

[twin kraken]

Nah
I have 2 packets of that

Im covered

[wary orbit]

its made from Panzers

[hushed garden]

meth is better

[storm bloom]

Who the fuck are these guys? I thought Monolith, but they didn't attack.

[twin kraken]

Merc

[storm bloom]

Ahh

[hushed garden]

what a plain looking helmet lmao

[warped monolith]

"plain name. But I won't forget it"

[wanton arch]

they still havent fixed the long range aggression

also holy shit its my first time playing without "no aim bot" mod in a while and im getting lazered by some random mfs across hills

[hushed garden]

almost done, have to use my mobile data to dl because my home internet is 11.4mbps

[finite needle]

Duty outta nowhere killing bloodsuckers

[warped monolith]

JOIN DEWTY

[finite needle]

And here they go, back to the sea. Goodspeed brave soldiers.

[molten osprey]

i just got used to it, but its extremely annoying if a whole group spawns and youre not able to take out 1/2 shooters of them before running

[unborn kelp]

they learned to swim, unlike Skif

[hushed garden]

SKKKIIIFFFFFAAAA

[wanton arch]

it makes aiming with a scope almost impossible since they just aim punch you

[molten osprey]

And here i am, finished the game with the Sniper a416. My bloodpressure suffered

[wanton arch]

im just gonna wait for the mod i think, this shit lowkey annoying

[fierce harbor]

So I started new game, because, a life is kinda here, holy moly, i forgot how are gunfight bad without maklanes overhall, the beaming and aimbot shit through bushes, bullespongines 😄

[wanton arch]

it isnt "suppressing" if all their shots hit me

[fierce harbor]

But the npcs do wander, that felt cool

[finite needle]

The fact that the NPC interact, wander and do stuff but it's super janky is very stalker ngl

[molten osprey]

No matter the NPC interaction, the bug, the glitch, i always had the feeling and thought of "uh stalker"

[wary orbit]

not a merc

[fierce harbor]

but iam crashing right now every 5 mins and its on different spots, doing different stuff, guess iam gonna wait a while

[twin kraken]

Then who?
Only mercs wear blue camo

[tall pecan]

i turned game into anomaly lol

[wary orbit]

look at the emblem

[late kernel]

Corps

[molten osprey]

deggys bois

[humble hedge]

Spark / Iskra

[twin kraken]

I completely forgot about them

They wear darker blue camo

[molten osprey]

||i love that strelok calls him deggy, its so out of place||

[twin kraken]

Time to put "unfit to help" on myself

[chrome wind]

i haven’t played s2 in like two weeks, they fixed a life????

[late kernel]

not really

[chrome wind]

damn 😔

110gb patch is crazy tho

[late kernel]

But your clickbait youtubers says its fixed

[chrome wind]

so business as usual then

[late kernel]

Welcome to Unreal Engine

[hushed garden]

hopefully alife is a least improved

[wary orbit]

is stopped watching TV 14 years ago, I think its time to stop watching Youtube too

[chrome wind]

le cycle of enshittification goes round and round, round and round, round and round…

[wanton arch]

still long range aggression and they are still aim botting, but theres more people running around now i guess

[wary orbit]

exactly

[finite needle]

Other positive: They aren't fighting you exclusively, they also fight themselves

[chrome wind]

i don’t even mind the aimbot tbh as long as the zone doesn’t feel like my local cemetery at 2:30am on a wednesday i’m ok w it

[wanton arch]

also they still spawn after you cross a certain barrier depending on the area you are, so you'll still have the funky spawns

[warped monolith]

yeah the game works in "area cells" like a bethesda game

[wanton arch]

then they put you in combat, which makes the npcs insta aggro to whenever you are

at least happened to me a ton in the 3 hours i played in 1.1

[wary orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-back-to-the-past-flying-car-gif-14179778

[crisp marsh]

Hallo iam new here

[chrome wind]

i’m guessing all mods are dead atm? including S2 optimizations?

[finite needle]

Yay bubb's pda is no longer perma quest item

[hushed garden]

FUCK SAKE

[warped monolith]

hello new here, I am MBOmnis

[finite needle]

Imma sell it to hamster, good riddance

[chrome wind]

W

[wanton arch]

engine.ini are good to go, depending what mods you use, they'll be broken

[wary orbit]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssss

[hushed garden]

EWW look a newbie

[finite needle]

Well, but at least they don't spanw just to fight you, they spawn because of other reasons

[vapid lion]

Hows the new a-life tweaks from GSC? Do i need to stick with shay's mods? lol

[pure garnet]

Praise monolith

[wanton arch]

or rather, someone said earlier, youre basically putting old files(the mods) in new files(the update) so some fixes arent gonna be there

[crisp marsh]

I search .exe for install games buth moment repair for c+ my computer required restart obligated restart or no take cont for playing

[wary orbit]

yes

[finite needle]

ngl I'm more on the positive for the patch, they're going in the right direction. Now, if they made the enemies not actually be fucking laser accuracy it would be great.

[chrome wind]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/7?tab=description i can’t live without this one. i’m cpu-bottlenecked to fucksville arizona unfortunately

[wary orbit]

do me favor write in native language

[elfin pilot]

huh I woke up to this

[crisp marsh]

i encounter on blem with this file GAMMA Large files :
[OLD] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MuPI... some one one idea for dw this files

[wary orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/given-up-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-9650246926252591669

[elfin pilot]

Jesus

this is a 100GB Update

[chrome wind]

1. this is not the gamma channel
2. what is your native language so we can use google translate cuz no one here understand what you’re saying lol

[chrome wind]

my last final exam is tmrw so i guess i’ll just have to wait till after to play the update

[elfin pilot]

study then play

[chrome wind]

was looking forward to destressing in the zone for a bit before but oh well

[wanton arch]

thats fine, they'll probably have another hotfix patch by tomorrow

[grave oar]

I shoulda just waited to buy stalker 2 ngl

[chrome wind]

been studying for the past 48 hours, running on like 8 hours of sleep in two days idek how i’m still alive

[sonic reef]

whats so different you would be buying the game at tthe same price

[wanton arch]

I got it as a birthday gift 3 years ago when it first got put on steam

[elfin pilot]

8 hours of sleep in 2 days are good enough

[pearl fog]

stalker 2 patch 113gb and I still have the same bugs

[chrome wind]

i bought cp2077 when i first came out and they eventually fixed the game lol. not that big a deal, plus you’d be supporting GSC

[grave oar]

the... bug fixes? Itd would all be fixed

its not about the price, you dummy dum dum >:c

[sonic reef]

what is it about then, you have to wait no matter what

[chrome wind]

the game was enjoyable even in release state. only thing would be optimization but that’s more of a UE5 thing

[grave oar]

the issue is I bought it, I played it, and I dont think i'll want to play it allll over again when its fixed

I already played through stalker 2 twice now

[wanton arch]

Optimization and ue5 in the same phrase

[grave oar]

it'll be like going back and playing kenshi, you play it for a bit but you get bored;

[chrome wind]

KENSHI MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¡¡¡¡!!!!!!

[sonic reef]

no its not, publishers and financers think optimization is a waste of time so they highly try to make games nowadays not go through optimization phase, which just fucks up the sales, it's dumb

[real tinsel]

Hello everyone, those who played patch 1.1, A-life enhanced? Felt any changes?

[wary orbit]

UE5 can run wonderfully optimized if you don't tick every performance hogging option it has to offer all at the same time, as a developer

[sonic reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHBBzHSnpwA

[finite needle]

I've definitely fought way less bloodsucker since the update that's for sure

[vapid lion]

i've kinda tried asking the same question but people are too busy bitching about politics of the gaming world to answer.

[chrome wind]

yeah i agree with this somewhat, i’ve read that GSC was under a lot of pressure to release the game before the holiday season

[sonic reef]

in the video u can see the amount of devs trying to shit on this guy thats trying to "promote" optimization

[chrome wind]

i asked earlier and folks have been saying they’re noticing more NPC spawns but they still have aimbot apparently. i haven’t gotten to play the update myself yet

[wanton arch]

"Wdym I'm not suppose to use lumen and nanite? But think of the time we'll save not having to optimize! I mean, render the details and lighting"

[sonic reef]

nanite is dogshit when its not used right, it tanks performance to hell

[real tinsel]

Tks! Theres a mod that removes aim bot, if it still works on the patch, issues solved 😎

[finite needle]

Definitely better - Enemies spawn further and not behind you, and not exclusively to fight you. You can see some squads moving and interacting with the world, but it's janky as hell and hostile squads that spawn still insta aggro the moment they see you because they simply pop up into existence at aggro distance

[wary orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/printer-shredder-fax-machine-spam-customer-service-gif-25361577

[finite needle]

aimbot still there

aggro range seems too big still

[sonic reef]

i believe gta 6 will look mad amazing and it wont be so performance intensive, rockstar always does wonders with optimization, and hopefully it will set graphics/performance trends

[wanton arch]

not quality. still need more time to bake

[chrome wind]

do u have a link to the mod? i don’t terribly mind the aimbot but would love to have it as an option

[wanton arch]

Aggro range and aggression is still fucked, npcs around you will enter combat and you'll receive the threat for being close

[pearl fog]

A LIFE I don't see any changes

[hushed garden]

Stalker 2 freezes when combining shaders

[wary orbit]

what did they call it when you had multiple of the same graphics cards linked together?

[sonic reef]

sli

[wary orbit]

yeah you're going to need that with the latest graphicscard x4

[chrome wind]

oh my god. u just unlocked a memory i didn’t know i still had

[wanton arch]

They will then milk it for 20 years

[real tinsel]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/113

[sonic reef]

sli is non existent in gaming now, u prob get 10% more performance with 2 cards

[wanton arch]

GAMMA 2 WHEN?

[wary orbit]

believe you me they will bring it back