The simplest solution to that is to just be mindful of your surroundings and kill any jetpack fuckers who even think about jumping to you in the middle of the eagle strike
#🤖🐛🦑helldivers
bleak patrol
Also the eagles are not even half as bad as the orbital barrage upon the release of the DSS
slim coral
tbh
getting ganked by 2 different corp honestly
isnt too bad
idk why it feels bit easier
slim coral
I am doing Diff 10 currently and I swear I am having higher survivability
plucky lion
jet brigade just isn't particularly threatening
bleak patrol
Jet brigade is only a threat when the eagles are on 
slim coral
jet brigade just isn't particularly threatening
found Jet Hulk a bit annoying cuz the back hitbox is harder to hit
plucky lion
incin corp is more threatening, but mainly due to the shotgun devs that really do devastate
bleak patrol
The best counter to the fire tards is to just wear fire resistant armor and pray for the best
bleak patrol
Incinerator Vox Engine would be a nerf
slim coral
really idk
their miniguns are either incindiary rounds
or their railgun will deal fire damage
bleak patrol
The miniguns are a non issue
slim coral
and their artillery also launch fire bomb
so basically
they are shooting the same projectile as Incin hulk
but it tracks
bleak patrol
Jet Brigade Factory Strider and Incineration Corps War Strider
plucky lion
a jet factory strider would be sick as fuuu
bleak patrol
Just the thought itself makes me giggle a bit
Imagine this big, slow thing getting a huge jetpack
They fly now
plucky lion
just minding ur business and then suddenly the earth quakes and u hear a giant robot say 'omae wa mou shinderu' right behind you
slim coral
Imagine this big, slow thing getting a huge jetpack
maybe the Vox doesn't jump but ya kno
it dash toward you using Jet
bleak patrol
I saw a factory strider move over a megafactory wall
Not around, not through a gate
Over it
plucky lion
not as bad as vox engines rolling up the sides of skyskcrapers and sniping u from above lol
sacred tapir
the orbital one didnt even try to aim for bots bro it blatently targeted me lmao
bleak patrol
Yes, actually
That's how it worked
It targeted the area around you specifically
Which included you
And it lasted forever
I tried to wait it out once
Wasted 20 minutes of the mission
The eagles do target the enemies, the issue is that they don't care how close those enemies are to you or other players
Most of the time it's not an issue
Unless you fight the jet brigade
Who can just appear behind you
Like I said it multiple times, not even related to the DSS eagles
They should get better pilots
Eagle Try Not To Miss Challenge (impossible)
I stopped using eagle stratagems a long time ago, with the exception of rockets cause they are hard to miss
And kinda useful at times
fleet gazelle
bleak patrol
bleak patrol
loud bison
their miniguns are either incindiary rounds
incendiary canister shot
shotgun dev but range doesn't matter
sharp gorge
rancid ibex
Watch them make another "Oh lol another inventory audit came up and there's actually 100 million helldivers from the 1st Galactic War still in cryofreeze from this random warehouse"
sharp gorge
vxTwitter / fixvx
rancid ibex
Why should be ally with the half-clankers
loud bison
I did notice with the DSS Barrage that areas light up like they did with meteors
sharp gorge
Why should be ally with the half-clankers
The joke is "How Germany could've won WWII"
rancid ibex
Yeah yeah I get it
loud bison
I never noticed the helldiver with an armored stuffed bear on his hip
on the screen after the intro video but before loading into the destroyer
loud bison
they added it
well, for the current barrage
if you react quick enough you can avoid death
not a lot of time though
actually, it feels more like randomly placed precision strikes
bleak patrol
Looking at the defense rates we might be able to destroy another megafactory before the reinforcements run out 
And I'm all in for maximizing the amount of infrastructure damage we do to the clankers
rancid ibex
How are doing in Transcendence?
bleak patrol
Capturing but too slow
Even without the reinforcement limit we wouldn't be able to capture it before the time ran out
Maybe if we didn't split and focus on taking the capital from the beginning
At this point I think we should destroy Lurza instead
rancid ibex
I guess we have to do as much damage as we can to Cyberstan before we R&R
bleak patrol
One less megafactory would probably slow down the highly likely counterattack
celest elm
dire igloo
something something bugdivers throwing the automaton front by not playing it something something
sacred tapir
Random retards just shooting people with leveller and shit for the random youtube slop “Yes… The developers did this…” videos
bleak patrol
Have you seen the shorts of people playing whack a mole with the bastion?
One short lost more reinforcements than I did during the entire invasion
dire igloo
I did see that one
slim coral
bleak patrol
They can do that, I'm off to die at Transcendence
bleak patrol
That's kind of a banger screenshot, might do something with it
shy schooner
bleak patrol
It wasn't rigged
We were at Transcendence
Like, 4-5% in
It was doable we just died too fast
Like, there was an actual news broadcast made in case we won
iirc it's the case with every bigger operation we did, one broadcast for victory one for loss
It doesn't really feel like they would do something like that if they rigged the whole thing for us to lose
Yeah I just checked, they even made a broadcast for the loss of Super Earth during the Illuminate invasion
Our objective then would be to find a new HQ
So I wouldn't say that the loss on Cyberstan was rigged per se
rancid ibex
feels like it was hella rigged
More bullshit filler events to come
Well now Cyberstan's over and they just made us lose, guess it's time to put this game at the warm bench
Ping me when Alexus gets fired
bleak patrol
bleak patrol
At that moment it didn't matter tho
fleet gazelle
Cyberstan is over and playing as a cyborg has become boring... Let's return to the bug dungeons...
sacred tapir
i mean i only play bots because its the only faction thats actually well designed (mostly)
cant stealth on bugs or squids, and theyre also just not really that well put together imo
bots just have a better flow
grizzled dagger
earnest stag
Stalker nest says fuck you
!topic
cursive gladeBOT
@sharp gorge
DEMOCRACY IS NON NEGOTIABLE! - Liberty Prime, Helldivers Enjoyer
coarse perch
@real gulch @pine spade kinda peak ngl
pine spade
<@1432405659852345355> <@237635783249494016> kinda peak ngl
I don't know why in here but yes
pine spade
paper radish
plain bough
Happened many a time for me at cyberstan, vox engine spawning or despawning infront of me
steady zinc
bleak patrol
Happened many a time for me at cyberstan, vox engine spawning or despawning infr...
It looks like an issue with the spawning system. If you split farther than 75m from other players the game considers you a separate group for spawning purposes. In the clip specifically you can see that other players were far away and the game might've decided to despawn the vox without considering that another player is close to it.
Now in terms of spawns, as I stated when you're far away from others, the game considers you as a separate group in order to punish splitting up. It's entirely possible that voxes or other enemies appearing right at you is a patrol meant for the other group, which didn't take you into consideration
slim coral
someone made it so you get stepped on by Cyborg
plain bough
must be Iedy
dire igloo
iedy is a china diver?
sacred tapir
You kinda can stealth around bugs, but it's useless
as soon as one sees you its over though
sacred tapir
someone made it so you get stepped on by Cyborg
of course they did
doesnt surprise me i suppose
steady zinc
someone made it so you get stepped on by Cyborg
bleak patrol
as soon as one sees you its over though
But they don't technically see you cause they are blind 
plucky lion
they smell u because ur nasty ass dont use super soap
bleak patrol
Use eagle sweat
runic sentinel
And the channel is dead once again
graceful compass
Inb4 channel executed
graceful compass
Plenty more fish in the sea
potent leaf
X
narrow trout
rancid ibex
Furries
narrow trout
You've no place to speak
empty zealot
Iedy would like this
plain bough
drop 5 vox engines on those missions
fleet gazelle
They don't appear now.
But on the cyberstan there were about 5 of them spawning peacefully and another 2 of them flew in with reinforcements.
rancid ibex
No more Vox on Cyberstan?
rancid ibex
No more Cyberstan
DOesn't mean we fully stopped the operation. We gonna go back to clanker world, and kill every single clanka mothafucka inside it and take the planet
earnest stag
*Iedy would like this*
smash
eager cliff
light nymph
https://giphy.com/gifs/gameofthrones-westeros-a-knight-of-the-seven-kingdoms-ako...
I know you're more used to the ones from BadDragon™, but these exists too
eager cliff
steady zinc
*Iedy would like this*
(Had to censor the cum filled condoms)
eager cliff
(Had to censor the cum filled condoms)
steady zinc
https://giphy.com/gifs/speed-ishowspeed-abdullahaljashami-c9fo0fcrKAvmBO0UOY
I didn't draw it 
sacred tapir
https://giphy.com/gifs/speed-ishowspeed-abdullahaljashami-c9fo0fcrKAvmBO0UOY
as if hes not gonna go look for the original
gusty orchid
slim coral
(Had to censor the cum filled condoms)
im surprised they actually use condom
loud bison
im surprised they actually use condom
anti-virus
bleak patrol
(Had to censor the cum filled condoms)
potent leaf
Hey guys when you post your helldivers related gooner or non gooner art can you also make sure to link the source. Giving credit where credit is due is ethical and easy
Be a good citizen
bleak patrol
I'm not a good citizen, I'm a super citizen
neon pendant
Hey guys when you post your helldivers related gooner or non gooner art can you ...
probably more DNA on the carpet under your computer desk than an active crime scene
potent leaf
You could not be more wrong
I just don't like it when people repost art without actually crediting the person who made it
neon pendant
You could not be more wrong
narrow trout
https://tenor.com/view/ceno0-muscle-soldier-tf2-this-is-what-dying-feels-like-gi...
weak
post source or explode
neon pendant
post source or explode
sacred tapir
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265394379309449238/1347238885461196881/s...
you rn because no source
sacred tapir
fleet gazelle
Hey guys when you post your helldivers related gooner or non gooner art can you ...
Asking a person from the CIS to comply with licensing laws...
fleet gazelle
People often copy photos from the internet, and these photos retain the original title and media link to the website where they were taken. And tracing the source of the media resource is easy.
fleet gazelle
https://giphy.com/gifs/ponkehq-monkey-ponke-ponkesol-W5aCKAedFKhfJ5a1T4
You can always use this.
neon pendant
we all know you want the source for your spank bank
narrow trout
whatever greyname
narrow trout
not even zoomer slang
you have eyes
you can see the color of their name
i know this is the helldivers chat but come on]
potent leaf
Greyname or battleborn?
narrow trout
Greyname or battleborn?
greyname or rattlegore
potent leaf
greyname or rattlegore
Got stones in your ears? I asked what side you're on, Gray-Name or Rattle-Gore?
narrow trout
New in town, eh?
celest elm
sharp gorge
sharp gorge
probably more DNA on the carpet under your computer desk than an active crime sc...
Weird response to asking for artist credentials
desert lion
eager cliff
sharp gorge
Tail gun pog
eager cliff
dire igloo
earnest stag
Smash
steady zinc
"Harder, Clanker."
"What?"
"What?"
rancid ibex
So much clanker posting
bleak patrol
fleet gazelle
rancid ibex
Give the baby clanker back to the half-clanker, with an armed Hellbomb strapped to it
rancid ibex
I only play DRG and HD2. Tried Darktide as a trial. Kinda enjoyed it, but never got into the world aspect
I did enjoy shooting the big ass pistol there
rancid ibex
https://fixupx.com/NeetVirgin/status/2024925931857740065?s=20
I wanna give this half-clanker the one-two buckaroo using the double freedom
fleet gazelle
dire igloo
DRG is so peak
earnest stag
I can't believe billionaires lost us another planet
The cycle repeats
plain bough
https://stupidpenisx.com/helldivers2/status/2025948110061441384
Lol even the previous MO said that most of the eggs were 'inert', just casually selling some working eggs
bleak patrol
Bug MO 
slim coral
Bug MO
unborn ibex
The same civillian when they crack out the break action and give the stalker both barrels.
potent leaf
X
plucky lion
wtf is that facial expression lol
not the face a trained killer makes while shooting their enemy
steady zinc
fleet gazelle
sharp gorge
not the face a trained killer makes while shooting their enemy
You've not heard your helldiver legitimately cry from taking 1 pixel of damage?
narrow trout
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/971679586331033650/1475605712070770858/...
where helldiver
earnest stag
https://x.com/Ony01Planarcor/status/2025980152992215095
Inaccurate depiction of a Helldiver.Also Furries are used to make the extra padding in armor so any depiction of furrydivers has to be burned.
potent leaf
Inaccurate depiction of a Helldiver.Also Furries are used to make the extra padd...
This isn't a furry it's an umamusume from the hit japanese gambling horse racing game
earnest stag
This isn't a furry it's an umamusume from the hit japanese gambling horse racing...
Which counts as furry
Its a horse human
Extra padding
Death to the Alien
GLORY TO THE EMPEROR
.... wait
Wrong slongan
FOR SUPER EARTH
narrow trout
rancid ibex
Inb4 he respawns with a portable hellbomb and democratically explodes the clankers
They didn't face the wall, they have face absolute democracy
rancid ibex
Is anyone else's major order in Chinese?
sacred tapir
Is anyone else's major order in Chinese?
You are at a very chinese point in your life
Thats all
sharp gorge
Its a horse human
The yakuza is onto you now
rancid ibex
What're they gonna do? Sing karaoke like a dragon?
plucky lion
You've not heard your helldiver legitimately cry from taking 1 pixel of damage?
sure, but that isn't what is happening in the drawing...
bleak patrol
You've not heard your helldiver legitimately cry from taking 1 pixel of damage?
I've heard my helldiver make the quietest "oof" when hit in the chest for 3/4 of his max health, and then also scream like a little baby because a lil particle of fire flew 5cm away from his face (he didn't take any damage)
Bear in mind that the damage in the first example was self inflicted
quaint flume
@sharp gorge @eager cliff @runic sentinel @steady zinc @alpine cypress @graceful compass https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/494467860198850562/1475890180895281356/aJQ07RV1_700w_0.png?ex=699f2157&is=699dcfd7&hm=7b2af22f564fcc8e7bdb6ed00ae637f151840dad849a10d896b74629824ad2df&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
steady zinc
steady zinc
loud bison
loud bison
not a yuge fan of the breaker shotguns
earnest stag
not a yuge fan of the breaker shotguns
Their fun vs bugs
loud bison
might just be the incendiary one i don't like, haven't tried the others but I can't imagine there being that much of a difference
loud bison
https://fixvx.com/Helldivers_NOW/status/2026486185368109147 ok but WHEN I DO IT the entire map beelines me
dire igloo
https://fixvx.com/Helldivers_NOW/status/2026486185368109147 ok but WHEN I DO IT ...
Why is there so many wtf
plucky lion
I wish flamethrowers worked
works well against chargers, but against the small bug it's a pain...
loud bison
need a gas sprinkler turret
kind of like the tractor from c&c generals
but then they'd probably nerf gas
because god forbid i sit in the middle of it in my gas armor and vitality booster
loud bison
Impaler dies and ragdolls but the hitbox stays where it was and makes an invisible wall
fleet gazelle
bleak patrol
I have learned that a direct hit with a leveller does not in fact kill bile titans 100% of the time
As they sometimes survive with enough health to survive additional 1-6 eruptor shots
sacred tapir
classic arrowhead
release something for HEAVY anti tank, and have it not do its job as well as recoiless
bleak patrol
It does do it's job tho
bleak patrol
9/10 times it will
sacred tapir
eh, 10/10 times they die in one RR shot tho
bleak patrol
Maybe I need to work on my aim
sacred tapir
i guess you do need to hit the head
on RR
for 1 shot
well sometimes bile titans might block it with their leg maybe?
so it just does like almost dead
fleet gazelle
again///
sacred tapir
but not fully
fleet gazelle
X
fleet gazelle
https://x.com/i/status/2027340841984159955
It's certainly cool, but they're overdramatizing it. There aren't enough bilious titans there, other than the dragons.
rancid ibex
What is Opera GX doing there
bleak patrol
So I have installed a mod that adds tracers to shrapnel, including shrapnel made by Eruptor shots
And I'm gonna be honest
I think I'm gonna remove it
Because it makes it so much more stressful
Because now I see that the shrapnel just flies past my head every single time I hit anything
Like before that I wasn't aware how close I was to accidental death
sacred tapir
light nymph
Like before that I wasn't aware how close I was to accidental death
Ignorance is bliss
plucky lion
yeah the eruptor is such a gamble to use lol
bleak patrol
I actually never killed myself with shrapnel (explosion is a different thing)
But now I know why I sometimes get hit by shrapnel long after firing the gun
The ones that get blasted upwards don't actually despawn until they hit the ground (or me)
slim coral
How to have fun w Rupture Strain
You simply do not
slim coral
I actually never killed myself with shrapnel (explosion is a different thing)
Hard to get killed w Sharpnel if you like die instantly from explosion
bleak patrol
eh, 10/10 times they die in one RR shot tho
I just did some research
RR and Leveller deal roughly the same amount of damage (3350 for RR, 3500 for Leveller), the difference comes with what type of damage they deal. RR deals mostly ballistic damage while Leveller deals mostly explosive damage. Because of that, a Bile Titan is more likely to withstand one bad Leveller shot than one bad RR shot. Both weapons CAN one shot them, it's just that Leveller needs to be more precise on where the shot lands
bleak patrol
Hard to get killed w Sharpnel if you like die instantly from explosion
I actually use the explosion to get away from bad situations
Since I often wear explosive resistant armor
I can even point blank with Eruptor and survive
There's this little move I like to do if I'm in a bad spot
Dive away from the nearest enemy and shoot at them with Eruptor
bleak patrol
I get speed boost from the explosion
slim coral
Cuz i dont see anywhere else itd be useful
bleak patrol
No, Bastion is the least useful for the bots
Because the bots are the only faction equipped to combat the Bastion
slim coral
Cuz if you get bump rushed by Voteless they will claw your tank out because of balance reason
Which is weird
bleak patrol
Just run them over?
slim coral
On Bug you get Spewer to death
bleak patrol
Just shoot them?
bleak patrol
I mean, it's on you for letting them get close
slim coral
Like no shit you kill shit by shooting at it
But how can you kill shit from behind if you are a casemate
bleak patrol
Then why are you complaining
slim coral
Or to right and left
bleak patrol
Turn around?
bleak patrol
Have the extra two idiots in the turret kill stuff behind?
slim coral
Time to talk to the wall
slim coral
Why am I using it alone? No im talking about I have a person drive and a gunner
How can you deal with shits surrounded you if you have 1 gun facing forward
bleak patrol
You have
Two extra spots in the tank
For two extra helldivers
Who can shoot stuff around you
Or just have them as infantry
That's tanks 101
bleak patrol
You can't blame the tank for the lack of coordination on your team
slim coral
I cant blame the lack of coordination if no one want to fucking coordinate
bleak patrol
Bastion is actually very good for the tower defense missions
slim coral
Yeh no shit its facing in 1 direction
bleak patrol
Because it only has to face one direction
bleak patrol
Other than that it's still a good vehicle
Just use your brain
And have your team use it as well
slim coral
Wish I can call AT emplacement on top of the tank
bleak patrol
Bastion only suffers from those little decorative bags on the side still transferring damage to it's main health
Which I hope they fix
It is fixable
slim coral
Calling Bastion on jungle map
Why did I even
bleak patrol
Like, see
Bastion isn't bad if you have a good driver and gunner, same as FRV is very poggers if you have a good driver
slim coral
Just one case where I want to test it out and get deployed on thick forest map
I still dont get how the tank slide around on dirt or sand map
Like this thing track is made out of rubber
bleak patrol
Jank
slim coral
Swedish Jank
bleak patrol
We have slav jank, swedish jank
sacred tapir
But how can you kill shit from behind if you are a casemate
Gremlins in the back of the tank
Equip them with autocannon or the buffed nade launcher
sacred tapir
Bastion only suffers from those little decorative bags on the side still transfe...
And the side skirts by the treads
But not as much
bleak patrol
I do find it funny
That the barrel
Has 100k health
Is completely unarmored
And transfers 0% of damage to main
BUT
Fucking decorative bags
Have 100 health
Light armor
And transfer 100% damage to main
Which technically means
That if you could somehow tank all hits with the barrel
The tank would be borderline impossible to kill
But if you hit in hard enough in a canvas bag once
It will fucking die
sacred tapir
I feel like each light weakpoint should only transfer as much as its hp value
Meaning a max of 100hp per bag thing
So that 8k total hp would only take like 600hp off if all bags are destroyed, even by the variable
Or however many bags there are
That would at least be somewhat ok
But its still dumb
Shouldnt do any damage, not vital to tank, same with the ablative side skirts
loud bison
is this still a problem?
sacred tapir
mfw the rupture strain still sucks ass and is still cancer to play against
i mean bugs in general are kinda cancer
because theyre just annoying
but thats just unplayable tbh
loud bison
I have found some joy in jumping into them with a gas strike
steady zinc
sacred tapir
the human who you just shot like 10 times, just jabs his neck with a lil drug syringe, then just tosses an impact grenade at you just out of spite
rancid ibex
As every automaton rockets got durable damage buff, sentry got nerfed 50% of their health and with enemy accuracy buff, they now cannot stand much.
So damage output =(Durable Damage * AV%) + (Normal Damage * [100-AV]%)
Sentry has AV2 = 70%, Rocket Devastator got durable damage X 3.3 buffed = 100
So now: 1000.7+300.3 = 79 damage
Sentry has 300 health with upgrades,
--> 300 / 79 = 3.797468354,
meaning one volley(4 shots) deletes sentry.
Before: 300.7+300.3 = 30 damage
--> 300 / 30 = 10
meaning 10 shots were needed to destroy sentry.
So tank being too sturdy was a smoke, Every green stratagems are nerfed into ground by durable damage buff in Automaton.
Roughly over 50% ~60%
So my friend said that sentry turret HP got nerfed by 50%
It's bullshit that they just do this for no reason
rancid ibex
I want to send Alexus to the 9th layer of Hell for being an absolute cock for just nerfing shit out of the blue
Heck, maybe I'd create a 10th layer just for his dumbass
bleak patrol
Drops on bugs with no support weapon in hopes of finding the break action shotgun to have some fun with it
Doesn't find a single one for the entire mission
Drops on another mission with a support weapon
First POI, break action shotgun
But I did get to kill a few bugs with a shovel
Was actually kinda fun, just running around and hoping the rngesus gives me a good weapon from a POI
fleet gazelle
bleak patrol
fym with 
empty zealot
https://x.com/i/status/2027511790532190552
Please, use fixupx instead of x, cause shit ain't playing properly.
fleet gazelle
solid sun
viral maple
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/550869975385112606/1477337222045896765/br...
Iedy when there's a woman diver on the team
unborn ibex
Drops on bugs with no support weapon in hopes of finding the break action shotgu...
I still feel the break action is in a weird place with the double freedom being around. Sometimes I wish I could use it as a primary. There's also the entrenching tool. Which I feel could be implemented in a cool way since its actually very useful in bot missions sometimes.
bleak patrol
Break action works relatively well with my usual loadout, with my Eruptor not being always the best choice of weapon to be used and the secondary being a slot I forget that exists
It is weirdly a viable choice for me when I play against bugs
It essentially functions as my primary weapon
And I use EATs for AT if needed
And they aren't needed very often
loud bison
Entrenchment tool should've been a secondary
especially since the "buried" samples aren't deep enough to need the shovel
eager cliff
Iedy when there's a woman diver on the team
your mother
sacred tapir
your mother
his mother is probably too big for the drop pod 
steady zinc
plucky lion
SEAF : Super Expendable As Fuuuu
sacred tapir
SEAF : Super Expendable As Fuuuu
super expendable anti fascist
light nymph
super expendable anti fascist <:clueless:1031200942722387978>
but... uhhh... they ARE fascists...
sacred tapir
but... uhhh... they ARE fascists...
thats what makes it funny
we call the bots fascist
but in reality, we literally are
fleet gazelle
sacred tapir
Uneducated helldiver
rancid ibex
Now this, is peak goon content
Hate them clankers
Helldiver crushing a clankers head hell yeah and lesbians escaping from a half clanker before it gets exploded into bits hell yeah
loud bison
well
I didn't see any Vox Engines for the level 10 defense
but do need something for the sprinting cyborgs
slim coral
dire igloo
let it be written in the record this is one of the only good things cuppa has ever posted
loud bison
ok, so Vox Engines do spawn on the tower defense mission just not as often
slim coral
@sacred tapir brood commander
cunning escarp
rancid ibex
The galaxy has no place for clankers and half-clankers
loud bison
that ain't stopping me from slam dunking baby batter into clanker wombs
bleak patrol
sacred tapir
that ain't stopping me from slam dunking baby batter into clanker wombs
Bro stop assembling words into sentences at once
severe tulip
slim coral
sharp gorge
Iron Giant would be the end of Super Earth to be fair
light nymph
Iron Giant would be the end of Super Earth to be fair
Brother... That's Bender from Futurama,not the Iron Giant
narrow trout
iron giant sweep
earnest stag
But it would be wraps with Iron Giant
He will bend you
fleet gazelle
eager cliff
plucky lion
like when my buddy rolls with the 4 sentries build...
grave bobcat
bleak patrol
So, planets with Cyborgs replace Factory Striders on D7 and up with Vox Engines
Intercept Convoy side objectives appear only on D7 and up
Cyborg Intercept Convoy instead spawn 5 Vox Engines all in one place going from point A to point B
Have fun
graceful compass
dire igloo
So, planets with Cyborgs replace Factory Striders on D7 and up with Vox Engines
...
i aint having fun with dat
eager cliff
sacred tapir
So, planets with Cyborgs replace Factory Striders on D7 and up with Vox Engines
...
the formidable team of 4 solo silo users:
(it only deals with 4 of the 5, but still)
doesnt always one shot tho, which is lame
it usually does if you hit them in the head, its like a baby, soft point on top of head
fleet gazelle
fleet gazelle
unborn ibex
Helmet is very HD1 pilled.
I still think Helldivers 1 had a way more consistent art style.
light nymph
Helmet is very HD1 pilled.
"wE cAn'T hAvE hElmEtS wiTh hAtS!!!"
- Arrowhead for whatever fucking reason...
empty zealot
I thought it was bad, but not that bad 😭
https://youtu.be/VM0vqMFSKFk
Wdym it can't one shot hunters/weakest voteless 
bleak patrol
It can
Voteless have 100-160hp depending on the variant and Hunters have 130-160hp depending on the difficulty
Belt-fed grenade launcher deals 150 explosive damage
So it will one shot weak and medium voteless and hunters below challenging difficulty
Yes it won't one shot stronk voteless as they have 160 health and hunters above challenging also have 160 health
Belt-fed makes up the less damage by having more grenades and also higher fire rate
It's not necessarily bad, it just relies on higher volume of grenades rather than raw single projectile damage
It is not necessarily as bad of a deal as the leveller not being able to one shot bile titans and harvesters when it doesn't hit in the correct spot
Also fun fact
Both GL-21 and GL-28 deal 0 ballistic damage from the projectile itself
Anyways I've been using the Pacifier / Peacemaker / GL-21 combo on squids recently and it has been working decently well
Pacifier can actually interrupt the flying fucks from calling in reinforcements
And it's decently accurate at range
slim coral
sacred tapir
It's not necessarily bad, it just relies on higher volume of grenades rather tha...
it also sacrifices AoE
it has smaller explosions
so its just worse at its job than the regular one with a supply pack
its really bad
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Not really
sacred tapir
yes really
just use the regular grenade launcher with a supply pack
same grenade count
- stims
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It's job is sustained explosive fire
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There's no downtime on reloads
sacred tapir
you need like 10 for anything bigger than small chaff
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You just fire
sacred tapir
maxigun is at least good at its job
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The gun goes brrrt
sacred tapir
even if it needs more ammo
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You pick up ammo it goes straight into the gun, no need to reloads
sacred tapir
the belt fed does its job poorly, you could honestly use the battlement to more effect
free cover with it too for bots
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sacred tapir
the belt fed needs more damage to make it worth using
like 2% of people use it
and for a new strategem, thats a fucking joke
its terrible
by definition
2 grenades for a hunter is goofy
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I would use it if I didn't need the backpack slot for something else on solo play
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sacred tapir
i dont want it to be meta
or best weapon
but it needs to be viable
its hardly viable as of now
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It seems viable to me
sacred tapir
still better than the strategem
what??
idk what im yappin about
i meant sterilizer
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Sterilizer is too niche for it's own good
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It's not bad on paper
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It's bad in practice
sacred tapir
the issue is the effect doesnt really linger
its not anything else
it just doesnt really last long enough
anyways, the belt fed (besides no reloads) is much much worse than its normal cousin paired with supply pack
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I never really liked the supply pack
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When playing alone it takes away my backpack slot for the ability to resupply on the run which is not that good imo and when I play with other people I still don't really need all that shit
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I rarely need to resupply in both scenarios because I will gather shit from the ground anyways
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its useful in stealth because no destroyer
I don't even call in resupplies on normal missions
I just live off the stuff I find on the map
sacred tapir
I rarely need to resupply in both scenarios because I will gather shit from the ...
yeah it helps, but its nice to be able to just keep moving
in stealth i use much more ammo than i thought i would
so it turns out it helps, also allows you to use the re-educator more
its very limited without it
since you dont want to waste C4 on hulks or something
so the re-educator lets you just dart them and magdump their heatsink with censor, dead instantly
and quietly
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Once again I will question whoever decides what weapon goes on which tier on the every sweaty tryhard's favorite thing - the tier list
I've been using the Peacemaker (the starter pistol) recently and it didn't let me down yet, same with the Bushwhacker. Both of them are ranked very low on all fronts, except for the squid front where apparently the Bushwhacker is ok, except in my own personal experience that one time I did bring it for squids was the biggest mistake in my career so far
steady zinc
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Also the Pacifier has been doing good work on squids as well, where it apparently is not good
GL-21 is apparently worse than GL-28 against squids as well
And, I mean, I can kinda see it
But GL-21 is also ranked just above the greatest support weapon to ever support weapon, the one true flag
Which baffles me greatly because it just works
plucky lion
maybe some people havent realized the peacemaker got buffed a bunch till its now a pretty solid trash clearing pistol
sacred tapir
Once again I will question whoever decides what weapon goes on which tier on the...
i rank things myself usually
i just think the BFGL needs work
to be on the right level of something like it
it should be more effective, like i said, i dont ask for it to be as good or better than the normal one, but it needs to have a few pros besides no reloads
plucky lion
since the gl-28 does heavy pen now it's a beast vs bugs
sacred tapir
also i fucking love bushwhacker, thats a dumbass take
saying its "bad"
like the sweaties do
that thing slaps
slim coral
Also fun fact
Both GL-21 and GL-28 deal 0 ballistic damage from the projectile i...
I thought the GL deals impact damage
Interesting
I could have sworn I donked bunch of scavengers
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It is
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Funniest shit ever
sacred tapir
also i feel like the grenades should do ballistic damage, but light pen
and it should just do like 100 flatout
because it would be funny to plonk a little clanker with one
like, in the minimum arming distance i mean
plucky lion
the blast radius is really small
loud bison
belt fed grenade launcher?
yeah, its ass
sacred tapir
Thats what im sayin
Piss all blast radius and piss all damage
Its not good in the slightest, not even worth defending
loud bison
sustained fire means jack when you need to stand near a supply drop to keep feeding it and far more grenades to destroy an enemy
ammo hog
maybe if it had shrapnel
sacred tapir
Its funny that an autocannon team reload is like 9x better
Issue is 2 players
Tbh they should make it so team reloads dont need the other person with the backpack
It should allow someone to walk over and load it whenever
I shouldnt have to drop the backpack and ask someone to reload it
slim coral
Tbh they should make it so team reloads dont need the other person with the back...
Idk why other guy cant just yank ammo off the 1st guy backpack
Guess supreme command didnt authorize the use of brain cells
sacred tapir
Exactly
sacred tapir
know what we need?
belt fed heavy dominator
that would be cool
just heavy pen dominator, with like 25 more durable damage, and 50 more regular damage, give it 150-200 rounds in the backpack
that would be cool
bleak patrol
Are we going to belt fed everything now?
sacred tapir
low projectile speed and higher recoil to compensate, and a lower fire rate, like the lowest HMG setting
yes
yes we are
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Belt fed recoilless rifle
sacred tapir
no
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You said yes
sacred tapir
anything but the top 3 support weapons
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Everything is everything
sacred tapir
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Be careful what you wish for
sacred tapir
shut up monkey paw
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Too late
sacred tapir
nuh uh
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Belt fed one true flag
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One True Flag but it has a rope attached and you throw it instead
sacred tapir
honestly, i want it because it would be funny
sacred tapir
what would be really funny is if enemies could pull you if youre not careful, like harpooning a charger with it when it charges away from you
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Can be used as a grappling hook (arrowhead would never)
sacred tapir
no
they wouldnt
alexus would piss and shit themself
so yeah
belt fed quasar when
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sacred tapir
anyways, i want a belt fed dominator as a consolation prize because bfgl is shidded
half a mag, for all that?
sorry, half a backpack
for just that?
2 meatballs?
and an overseer? and some voteless?
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I can tell you that it was faster than the normal GL
sacred tapir
and?
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And you don't see the point? Really?
sacred tapir
so what if it takes me 8 or so seconds more
still dies
and more efficient ammo wise
it still needs 100 more damage
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Who cares about ammo efficiency, stuff goes boom at a fast fire rate
sacred tapir
not enough power on the booms
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Also I missed like half my shots
sacred tapir
its a case of space marine 2 heavy bolter syndrome
20 rounds for like 5 kills
in this case, its like 50
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A meatball takes 4-5 GL-21 grenades and an overseer takes 2, not counting voteless that's at least 12 grenades, include some shit aim, with GL-21 having much more recoil, and I would probably have to push back, but with GL-28 I could stay in one place and even walk a bit forward because I could just keep firing until the shit was gone
sacred tapir
part of my problem with this thing, is that it sucks at chaff, and it barely does its job on anything bigger
bleak patrol
Also ammo supply is a non-issue cause one ammo box gives you 25 grenades and a resupply fills backpack completely from 0
sacred tapir
smaller radius means more expended ammo
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Also you can remove harvesters with this thing
They can't fight back
They get stunlocked
sacred tapir
to put it into perspective, the liberator with the big drum, is a better horde clearer
for light enemies
like warriors, scavs, hunters, etc. on bugs
or the voteless
just because it takes like 2 shots
bleak patrol
I don't really intend to use it for the horde clearing duties, same as I don't do it with GL-21
sacred tapir
and you can sweep left and right
and for mid size enemies, devastator, overseer, brood commander or smth
bleak patrol
I have my primary and incendiary grenades for that
sacred tapir
its just not that effective
just use the normal one with supply pack
you will get more use
bleak patrol
Have you actually tried to use that weapon
sacred tapir
bfgl isnt good enough in its current state
sacred tapir
Have you actually tried to use that weapon
bfgl?
yeah i did
and then after watching a hunter eat one to the face, and then shoot 1 hive guard 4 times to get it dead, it started to lose its awe factor and i just kinda saw how shit it is
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As I said before I would actually use it more if it wasn't a backpack weapon, since I want my warp pack for bunkers
sacred tapir
i would use it more if it didnt suck up ammo and eat resupplies in a team environment
i dont play solo
you do
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But I took it for one entire squid op after we talked about it and I couldn't be happier with it
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I lacked mobility, sure, and I even had to abandon a few bunkers, but it was so much more handy than GL-21 for me
sacred tapir
also the ammo consumption issue doesnt apply to someone with all the pickups to themself
bleak patrol
squids, the literal weakest faction as of now
Which is also the faction the current MO is on so
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Traitor
sacred tapir
mo can suck my balls
i dont care
if it wants me to play some shitass faction (bugs/squids) i dont do it
i go back to the bot front
i deadass only interact with 1/3 of the game majority of the time
bleak patrol
I didn't want to play bugs after cyberstan but I did and I had fun
I didn't want to play squids after cyberstan but I did and I'm having fun
sacred tapir
i dont want to play bugs ever, i play them, remember why i dont like them, and leave
i dont want to play squids ever, i play them, maybe i have fun
bleak patrol
Playing the same thing over and over again gets boring, even basic ass squids are kinda fresh now after a year of not touching anything besides bots
sacred tapir
but usually just leave back to bots
bleak patrol
I didn't like bugs at all but I managed to finally get a working loadout for them and now they are kinda fun for me again
Like I remember when I started HD2 and I only played bugs and didn't want to play bots at all
And then I started disliking bugs like hell
sacred tapir
i only like bugs when its anything but dif 8+
theyre not fun to me, because they rush you
no skill in bugs for me, i like weakpoints
bleak patrol
You need to adapt, dummy
sacred tapir
not jittery jumpy bastards
fuck that
id rather adapt to blowing an overseers shit smoove off
which is why theyre more fun for me
because WEAKPOINTS
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Bugs have weakpoints
sacred tapir
bugs have like 5 enemies with meaningful weakpoints
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And everything else is just filler so I don't see an issue
sacred tapir
bile titan, charger, impaler ig but hes easy, hive guard (scary)
thats it
the rest just point at head
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Head is a weakpoint technically
sacred tapir
and hunters are the ones i hate because theres always 300 of them, and theyre jumpy as fuck
sacred tapir
i dont like them
sacred tapir
also stealth is more fun than regular gameplay for me, so bugs suck ass
bleak patrol
Factory Strider shoot eye or shoot belly
sacred tapir
why the hell would i play the annoying horde overstimulation faction, when i could play the bots
bleak patrol
Vox just nuke it
sacred tapir
vox is just 3 vents and a simple grenade
bleak patrol
Nuking it is faster
sacred tapir
nuke it with what exactly?
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Leveller
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Why not
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Why not
sacred tapir
because its not appealing to me?
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Why
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A lot of warbonds have only one good thing in them
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I don't like energy weapons
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I don't think you ever talked objectively
sacred tapir
and then the leveller? i dont have it yet
not enough medal
i have, bfgl is objectively bad
you just happen to like it
bleak patrol
Is it tho
I have used it, it doesn't really fit into my preferred playstyle and preferred loadout but I still think it's nice and I had a very good time with it
Did what I wanted it to
But overall I prefer the added mobility of a jump pack or the little cheating of a warp pack
Which is why I stopped using a lot of backpack support weapons
Playing solo and being able to just use all the resources for myself does help it a bit, but not really as much as you'd think
Because when you play with other people even though you have to share they also bring in other stuff that fills in the gaps in the overall team loadout
So you don't have to use your support weapons as often
Like last time I played with my usual group I used my quasar a total of 5 times during the entire op
Because surprise surprise the rest of the team was also armed
And I didn't have to handle everything myself because I had 3 other idiots with me
Which means that if I did take the bfgl I wouldn't really use it often enough to worry about ammo
And considering how that op went I could've probably taken it and everything would've been fine too
Yes it could use a bit more damage but it's not terrible
I did some math recently and in pure numbers it's just a bit weaker than GL-21 but those numbers don't take into consideration the time lost on reloads for GL-21
Now that I said all that I think it's time to point out the biggest flaw of both of these weapons
They both lose to the Eruptor
Eruptor, all damage sources included, can potentially deal over 3k damage per shot
That means that in best case scenario Eruptor can deal more damage in one single mag than both GL-21 and GL-28 with their entire ammo supply
Technically speaking if one wants a handheld AoE weapon then they shouldn't waste their time on some weak grenade launchers when they have Bolter from Temu as a primary
rancid ibex
Holy wall of text
rancid ibex
vox is just 3 vents and a simple grenade
Vents 'n Nade when there's more than 1 Vox Engine
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Wall of text because I actually take time to research the stuff I talk about both in theory and in practice when possible
So I end up having a lot of stuff to say
granite field
The children yearn for the portable hellbombs
loud bison
I have been torching harvesters
is funny
I feel like arrowhead worked themselves into a corner with weapons
what if certain attachments were warbonds?
like, say, phase out the flamethrower support weapon and replace it with extended canister for the torcher so it has the same effect
the breaker spray and pray phased out for the duckbill attachment for the regular breaker
the various ARs could just be parts kits for certain effects
while still applying the other attachments
Punisher shotgun
parts kit for slugs (slugger)
parts kit for flame damage (cookout)
so really the primaries would be chassis, similar to AR lowers
fleet gazelle
know what we need?
I wouldn't mind a shield, like a buckler loaded with explosives, or one that stuns enemies. You parry with it, and then finish them off with a sword or any one-handed weapon.
empty zealot
eager cliff
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I always knew this community sucks
plain bough
managed democracy has fallen
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Managed Democracy is still here
We just need to remove the traitors
I'll be completely honest, I'm not even a little bit surprised, if anything I thought it would happen sooner
plain bough
roughly 2 years before a major doxxing event happened for a game of this size, fairly good I'd say
still a shame it happened
dire igloo
wait so what happened
lost grail
wait so what happened
some guy put out a challenge for devs to complete a difficulty 10 mission with set loadouts, he said that if they did it he would donate a thousand dollars to a charity of arrowhead's choosing
then some retards doxxed him
its just the cancer of popular games, some mouth breathing retards will try to fuck with you for having fun and doing something interesting
bleak patrol
some guy put out a challenge for devs to complete a difficulty 10 mission with s...
Correction
He didn't set the loadouts for them, it was someone else
twin nebula
Man why cant people just enjoy the game
bleak patrol
He only wanted the devs to do a D10 op on Oshaune
twin nebula
Hd2 suffering from success
dire igloo
some guy put out a challenge for devs to complete a difficulty 10 mission with s...
This has to be the most retarded thing I have ever heard to get doxxed for
plucky lion
man tries to make an interesting event and even donate to charity, basement dwellers attack him... man humanity sucks
sacred tapir
i do that strategem thing, but i use things with long call in times after all the others get on
not killed anyone yet
bleak patrol
just use the regular grenade launcher with a supply pack
I did some math and got some numbers regarding the use of grenade launchers with supply pack
If we take GL-21 and GL-28, give them full ammo (which they will have if you have maxed out super destroyer) and give all of them 4 resupplies each, the numbers get funny
GL-21 will deal a total of 64k damage on full load + 4 resupplies and it will take it 60s if we don't count reloads, 139s if we count reloads
GL-28 will deal 75k damage on full load + 4 resupplies and it will take it 187s on 160rpm (same as GL-21), 125s on 240rpm (the default one) and 94s on 360rpm
sacred tapir
watch as the medium voteless eats a grenade from bfgl
but it shouldnt
it just does
and then bleeds out later
bleak patrol
Also while doing math I did notice a bit of a funny