Tsundere Eagle
#🤖🐛🦑helldivers
eager cliff
plucky lion
tsunderes come around eventually, but the thing is helldivers don't have that much time 
jaunty otter
Has anything interesting happened with the game recently, since Oshaune?
heavy sinew
Holy Cringe
plucky lion
Has anything interesting happened with the game recently, since Oshaune?
the only thing we are anticipating right now is a patch or two to fix the various issues
loud bison
oh yeah, those burrowing bugs ought to be back out sometime soon
been about 5 weeks, yeah?
plain bough
Just watch as the patch notes are small nothing burgers
empty zealot
plain bough
No patch today, ripperoni
rancid ibex
They finally abandoned us
sharp gorge
Team Fortress 2 channel it is
Welcome to Scream Fortress, everyone
Merasmus level 20 time
rancid ibex
Yeah TF2 channel is alright
sharp gorge
In that case https://youtube.com/shorts/1Nmih2pfbcU
empty zealot
sharp gorge
graceful compass
revisiting tf2 a while back was fun
right after they fixed their botting problem
sharp gorge
I wanted to play new scream fortress maps
But @narrow trout got contracts
Beating Monoculus forever
rancid ibex
Man I don't even engage with a majority of tf2's contents
Shit like trading or contracts
We all sohuld play tf2 with each-wait Idk if that's even possible to play with other people from other regions
sharp gorge
We all sohuld play tf2 with each-wait Idk if that's even possible to play with o...
'Tis
Just laggy
TF2 Casual doesn't have high ping auto-kick set up
rancid ibex
I wish it was like HD2 were it was fine to play with other people from other countries
No high ping
red jetty
Just play soldier or demo if you're worried about lag
sharp gorge
Just play soldier or demo if you're worried about lag
He did, and he did alright
Matchmaking was all over the place
Either we all get 90ms ping
Or Xyt and I get 190 and Birb gets 10 because US server 
plain bough
where's the fockin information from AH
eager cliff
where's the fockin information from AH
bleak patrol
where's the fockin information from AH
At the 4th page of the next warbond for 251 medals
plain bough
plucky lion
Might help with stutter on bots but I don't see any crash fixes here
dire igloo
Game 200 gigs now
plain bough
Game 200 gigs now
nah 300
twin nebula
rancid ibex
Allat for 50 more gigs and more bugs
sacred tapir
Allat for 50 more gigs and more bugs
Lmk when the game is 80gb and fixed
Im getting mah fuckin storage back from this storage hog
Fat fuck doesnt stop getting bigger
balmy spire
loud bison
they should use the steam beta opt in for the hdd version while everyone defaults to ssd
rancid ibex
Oh yeah they didn't even mention the balance pass thhat they promised for the mid-October-ish patch
sharp gorge
sacred tapir
holy shit
they actually did it, they addressed my concerns
theres like 7/10 things ive been bitching about
thats being tuned
plucky lion
wow there is some good stuff in here
rancid ibex
Did thye fix the scopes issue thing for the APW
Also new HD2 update
How large is the game now?
plucky lion
enemies will not attack the solo silo 🎉
rancid ibex
We should count how many days they have until they start nerfing these again
sacred tapir
Did thye fix the scopes issue thing for the APW
no lol
rancid ibex
Bcuz the glazedivers are gonna cry that "this is too strong this is not realistic wah wah wah!!!"
sacred tapir
im 90% sure the drag on the AMR and DCS is no better
sacred tapir
they wont do that, too many people complained about the shitass shit
plucky lion
they even gave the patriot exo 350 more minigun rounds haha
sacred tapir
Rip to precision weapons then
you can still have it if you have friends
get a friend to drop you an AMR
it will work like new
plucky lion
the AMR got some desperately needed love
sacred tapir
thats what i used to do
rancid ibex
Dude Ihaven't even touched the AMR and the other precision rifles cuz of the dogass scope bug
sacred tapir
i just bring what they want, they bring what i want
sacred tapir
Dude Ihaven't even touched the AMR and the other precision rifles cuz of the dog...
yeah and the scope bug doesnt affect guns from other players
plucky lion
idk what the scope bug is
rancid ibex
Man
sacred tapir
because the bug affects weapons you bring
rancid ibex
Gotta be doing some steps to circumvent it huh
rancid ibex
rancid ibex
idk what the scope bug is
Iirc the scopes are misaligned as hell
sacred tapir
say he wants quasar, and i want AMR, he gets quasar, you get AMR
plucky lion
never really affected me
sacred tapir
theyre just really fucking heavy for no reason
plucky lion
bullet seems to hit where i am with it
rancid ibex
I honestly don't know what scope bug is but people say the AMR is shit cuz of that
rancid ibex
I've never seen a single soul use the AMR
sacred tapir
bathtub ass handling
plucky lion
they buffed just about every single gun that was lacking
rancid ibex
Oh damn
sacred tapir
move the aimpoint, 3 years later youre on target
yeah fuck that
id rather use the fucking speargun to kill a hive lord
plucky lion
I've never seen a single soul use the AMR
u should use it. form your own opinion. it's a dcent all-rounder when fighting bots
plain bough
railcannon to 180s but who gonna use it still
sacred tapir
u should use it. form your own opinion. it's a dcent all-rounder when fighting b...
would be better if it didnt handle like shit
but as of now the railgun is just better
plucky lion
yeah railcannon buff could have been a but more lol
sacred tapir
12 seconds
rancid ibex
Devastators
Slightly harder to be put on fire
Large body parts are slightly more durable
sacred tapir
that would be better
rancid ibex
sacred tapir
if that poses an issue, thats a skill issue
devs are easy, just tap heads
or shoot midsection
simple
rancid ibex
I smells da glaze
rancid ibex
or shoot midsection
Yeah well my fps scks so I can't even headshot properly sometimes
Unoptimized ass game
sacred tapir
Yeah well my fps scks so I can't even headshot properly sometimes
maybe it will be better with the like 15 optimizations they did
as if they shouldnt have been optimized a year ago
rancid ibex
Idk I'm just gonna reinstall the game to update I can't be bothered with how slow it patches the files
And reinstalling for some reason is faster
sacred tapir
I smells da glaze
also thats bullshit XD
if i were talking about pre patch war strider id agree
but devastators literally have a big red weakpoint
and a midsection
thats light pen
2 weakpoints
plucky lion
but as of now the railgun is just better
railgun might still be better, but i find the AMR more fun to use than the railgun because of all the extra ammo. i can just blast away
rancid ibex
It's gonna be a problem for the shielded ones tho because I didn't see them say that they made their shields break
sacred tapir
railgun might still be better, but i find the AMR more fun to use than the railg...
you can blast away with railgun too
unless you shoot every fucking enemy
sacred tapir
no it doesnt
rancid ibex
My game is laggy that shielded devas are what I struggle with most of the time
sacred tapir
unless you full charge the thing
rancid ibex
iF our shields can breaks, so theirs should too
plucky lion
u cant compare blasting a semi-aut vs blasting a single shot
sacred tapir
i just safe mode it unless theres something bigger
plucky lion
waaay less blasty
sacred tapir
waaay less blasty
yes but one shot gets you 9x further than the amr mag
well
not that much
plucky lion
not really lol
high timber
holy shit
sacred tapir
because if its heavy pen the AMR will do 50% damage iirc
high timber
they fixed the game
sacred tapir
because its the same level as the penetration
but the railgun always does max damage
unless its ATII
plucky lion
killing war striders with the AMR vs killing them with the railgun is not very different in my experience
sacred tapir
or was it ATI
sacred tapir
killing war striders with the AMR vs killing them with the railgun is not very d...
yeah i dont care, they always sucked
plucky lion
more shots, but u canshoot much faster so it balanced out
sacred tapir
they were a bitch to kill
unless it was recoiless or quasar
so that goes without saying
hulks are better with railgun
plucky lion
u gotta put a whole mag into the leg joint to kill em
sacred tapir
1 shot as opposed to 2
sacred tapir
u gotta put a whole mag into the leg joint to kill em
yeah, its 2 shots with railgun
and you dont need to be as close
it balanced out
well
as balanced as those walking tin cans get
but now they have a weakpoint
plucky lion
with these buffs i bet AMR is gonna be pretty dope now
sacred tapir
meaning we might be looking at the railgun being better again
AMR is still gonna be stinky if the handling bug is still affecting it
plucky lion
handling is something u can get used to
sacred tapir
maybe you can deal with it
but that shit is just miserable when the railgun is RIGHT THERE
rancid ibex
Damn no adjudicator buffs
sacred tapir
Damn no adjudicator buffs
doesnt need them
rancid ibex
It could've used a slight recoil reduction 
plucky lion
it was the one pre-coyote AR that was solid
sacred tapir
It could've used a slight recoil reduction <:nooo:1043577143189323776>
grip
muzzle brakes
rancid ibex
Yeah but people have to unlock those before making the adjudicator useable
sacred tapir
literally gives you recoil reductions though game mechanics "need recoil reduction"
plucky lion
solo silo is gonna go so hard now
sacred tapir
Yeah but people have to unlock those before making the adjudicator useable
the fucking thing was always useable
i used it for like 7 months
without the upgrades
because they werent in
plucky lion
you used to have to use the adjudicator in single mode before the customization
sacred tapir
it was fine
sacred tapir
you used to have to use the adjudicator in single mode before the customization
skill issue?
because i full auto just fine before
its even better now
plucky lion
recoil issue
plucky lion
ur face is an issue
sacred tapir
plucky lion
u could try being happy about good patch but u prefer being miserable?
rancid ibex
Not what I mean
I jsut wanna know if they missed a thing or two I should still be aware about
Still waiting for a dedicated melee slot
sacred tapir
i just play the game of "what did they break this time"
see what bugs are fixed, whats not, whats new
plucky lion
yeah giving up that for a knife is kinda crazy
sacred tapir
i mean i just wanted the fucking autocannon to be a little better tbh, but they did that
sacred tapir
yeah giving up that for a knife is kinda crazy
giving up a gun in general for a shitass knife is crazy
rancid ibex
Literally all I need rn is a melee slot and I can die happy 
sacred tapir
an that doesnt mean a melee should take throwables
because knowing AH they would do that
for some reason
plucky lion
rancid ibex
Fuck yes
plucky lion
this patch looks so good i feel like im gonna load up just to instantly CTD because it can't be this good
sacred tapir
this patch looks so good i feel like im gonna load up just to instantly CTD beca...
he knows
rancid ibex
Good
sacred tapir
man they really nerfed elevated overseers HARD
good
i see zero issues
the worst enemy will now be less worst
plain bough
8% liberation rate on estanu
plain bough
dynamite can close bile titan holes now
light nymph
<:absolutecinema:1345135357326524446>
They increased the HP and made it not aggro? Seems like a redundant buff at this point, signs of spaghetti code?
loud bison
think it was being treated as a turret
light nymph
also, reading through the patch notes... Seems it's only a bandaid balance patch while most of the real issues are still a thing
fast spindle
also, reading through the patch notes... Seems it's only a bandaid balance patch...
That's every patch
shy schooner
https://tenor.com/view/valhalla-persona-dizzy-anime-gif-17239815
No.
graceful compass
give it up for another patch where the ops is neglected
loud bison
well, I can hear chargers now
but there does seem to be an audio bug where an terminid is stuck in a loop when sensing a helldiver
and it sounds like a fuck ton of them being alerted
and the charger steps sound like there is way more of them than there actually is
oh, and did they decrease the ammo boxes to one mag?
because that was ass trying to keep my smg supplied while scavenging
hmm, not a host bug
dove solo into a level 1, still only picking up one mag
twin nebula
hmm, not a host bug
dove solo into a level 1, still only picking up one mag
I tried with the speargun this week, it went from like +8 per ammo box to +1 to now +4
empty zealot
loud bison
yeah, seems to be +1 on scavenged ammo boxes. tried it with an AR, same result
empty zealot
This is bs
loud bison
unable to replicate this off Estanau, so it might be a gloom world bug, round reloaded weapons seem unaffected though
yeah, gloom world bug
Coyote AR gets +2 mags though
+4 off gloom worlds
ok, so mag configuration is affecting it
with gloom world ammo boxes giving half
isn't this the debuff we had when we were getting half ammo when xbox went live?
on gloom worlds specifically?
Environmental condition
never mind, it is an intended mechanic
plucky lion
performance has been very good fighting bugs. havent fought bots yet tho
empty zealot
Performance on bugs was good even before the update.
plucky lion
i used it quite a bit
light nymph
back to patch notes I go
plucky lion
always took two shots for me
light nymph
OH, I never saw AMR patchnotes because I was looking for "AMR" and not what ever it's called
plucky lion
would have to do the dmg calculation to see but i dont feel like it lol
light nymph
would have to do the dmg calculation to see but i dont feel like it lol
nah you might be right, It's been a while since I used the AMR or played HD2 cuz of all the shit that's happening
cunning escarp
New patch seems pretty fire
Base smg feels a little undercooked, but buffs in the right direction.
AMR back to feeling peak. One tap overseers, 1 mag for walkers. Fleshmobs reasonably killable, halo smg dmg way better.
Gimme crash fixes and we are so back
eager cliff
rancid ibex
Nerf the Coyote 
Nerf how easy it is for enemies to be set on fire by making them harder to be on fire, effectively nerfing every single fire-based weapon/stratagem 
"Don't worry we wont nerf Coyote but we'll nerf every single fire-based weapon by making enemies harder to be set on fire guys we promise we won't nerf Coyote"
dire igloo
<:absolutecinema:1345135357326524446>
Still cant kill detector towers
Suicide at noon
Dynamite 4 to 3
You were my brother dynamite, I loved you
Then they decreased your charges
pale hollow
The devs should reduce every enemy's health to 1, that way Helldivers 2 content creators and social media posters will finally be happy.
I can already imagine the click farming thumbnails: "HUGE shadow buff to all weapons, devs finally deliver on their promises"
empty zealot
The devs should get a reality check from non-glazedivers.
pale hollow
My post was mostly in jest, but the fact that Helldivers on social media keep going "no nerfs, only buffs, big buffs. Also, I should be able to solo diff10" is a damn shame.
Also cringe ass thumbnails with red highlights and text like "Arrowhead LIED to gamers again!!!!"
empty zealot
They are still right about that, though
Even with all this goofiness, they are still right that those changes are nonsense.
What was the point of changing fleshbomb health and durability if its overall stays the same for regular firearms? But it buffs explosives more, even 
Like they weren't meta before 
empty zealot
The moment when a lot of changes in the patch are just redundant
pale hollow
I want my power fantasy back.
And I want my hardcore game where clearing Helldive difficulty was hard back.
Instead, no one gets what they wanted
rancid ibex
As it should've been
twin nebula
One more step, towards managed democracy
tawny mirage
Yeah, quite a bit of this seems like monkey paw balancing
Sure ars and smgs get damage ups
Then I read drag increase after drag increase after drag increase
Nerf enemy health? Increase durability so on
steady zinc
They just seem confused on if they want you to feel like a cannon fodder or special forces.
scarlet edge
They just seem confused on if they want you to feel like a cannon fodder or spec...
Deus Ex spotted
steady zinc
Deus Ex spotted
Huh?
light nymph
Deus Ex spotted
He never asked you to spot him
steady zinc
Oh, I was confused what the hell Deus Ex got to do with Helldivers.
red jetty
Still cant kill detector towers
A handheld explosive being able to kill a detector tower is a bit much
Unless maybe they give us a C4 analog where we only get 1 at a time
shy schooner
rancid ibex
Helldivers 2 finally playable on ultra (it's just a defense mission map)
dire igloo
A handheld explosive being able to kill a detector tower is a bit much
I meant missile silo
Goober
red jetty
It's both silo and dynamite
sharp gorge
Helldivers 2 finally playable on ultra (it's just a defense mission map)
I cast 12 orbital barrages
rancid ibex
WAIT NOOO 
steady zinc
plain bough
maybe too easy
inb4 they just drop more enemies
steady zinc
eager cliff
Cluster launcher superiority
sharp gorge
💀 x5
steady zinc
rancid ibex
Me throwing a cluster bomb at a group of about, 30 bugs, with the most precise throw in the history of man
Getting 4 kills for no fucking reason
sacred tapir
Me throwing a cluster bomb at a group of about, 30 bugs, with the most precise t...
and theyre all friendlies
rancid ibex
I think he likes EATs
plain bough
plucky lion
i'm gonna be most of the way toward being able to afford the halo warbond and then they're gonna drop this and i'll just buy it lol
rancid ibex
Didn't they say they're pushing back content for a bit and focus on optimization
That patch was too quick. They should do more optimization and revert the fire damage changes to enemies
eager cliff
Didn't they say they're pushing back content for a bit and focus on optimization
i doubt the devs working on warbond are doing anything related to performance and stuff anyway
they are just designing the warbond and meeting their quota
rancid ibex
light nymph
||https://youtu.be/QX_ctNJGqtI?si=4YZVuTgPl2waz24n||
Why are they releasing ANOTHER smoke nade?
plain bough
Why are they releasing ANOTHER smoke nade?
plucky lion
so i can confirm now that AMR does indeed 1 shot hulk eyes, but it seems like only at shorter ranges
also i played 4 bot missions without any stuttering or crashes 
empty zealot
I'd assume that the warbond is releasing on the Liberty Day, which should be soon, no?
red jetty
It's about time we get a warbond that allows for more covert operations
I knew they were cooking up some type of C4, making it a backpack is an unexpected, yet welcome idea, if you ask me
Making it so you can switch between throwing and detonating is a nice touch
plucky lion
C4 and buffed dynamite is gonna make for a lotta extra boom
rancid ibex
I just hope they throw in more optimization and bugfixes
Before the warbond releases
Yo guys I just played on the leak version of HD2 btw and helldivers can now swim
It looks like that because the animator in the company quit because of these so called "performance errors" ruining his game and testing
There's no such thing as bad performance in the game, we at Arrowhead are a very competent and caring company
plucky lion
i swear it's always the dumbest players with eagle cluster bomb
they manage to tk the whole team on defense when nobody is even moving
steady zinc
eager cliff
i swear it's always the dumbest players with eagle cluster bomb
yeah i stopped using it
cant predict the random poisitioning of people
id rather use the gas strike
or the napalm eagle
plucky lion
it's like the 380 where everybody misjudges its radius, but without any time for you to react
sacred tapir
it's like the 380 where everybody misjudges its radius, but without any time for...
i dont know how people dont know its a 55m radius
i mean its safer to be at 60 due to area damage
but still
blazing abyss
every time i take cluster or airburst something ragdolls me as soon as i get it ready, then the shame of killing both myself and at least one other teammate prevents me from taking it again for a while
plucky lion
SHAME
loud bison
every time i take cluster or airburst something ragdolls me as soon as i get it ...
the nefarious mortar sentry
so many napalms dropped
rotund niche
i like that the amr got that ammo buff
sacred tapir
i couldnt care less, im just happy warstrider has weakpoints now
3 new weakpoints
just that alone makes the game 20% better
plucky lion
the nefarious mortar sentry
mortar is pretty great vs bots so i dont blame ppl for bringing it there
against bugs? face the wall.
vague lake
high timber
sharp gorge
rancid ibex
Call the democracy officer
rancid ibex
Just a napalm barrage
sharp gorge
Finally, a good napalm
eager cliff
I am about to napalm all over
loud bison
napalm barrage my beloved
rancid ibex
Hey guys, which Terminid is your most favorite hated that you'd rather keep it as a pet beat it to death a hundred times because of how cute and adorable fucking annoying they are to deal with
It's gotta be Hunters for me. They're so cute and lovely annoying they keep fucking jumping everywhere which is adorable! frustrating to aim at and they have aimbot pounces for some reason. They also make this weird noises that goes crooak crooak everytime they hop and it's soo freaking cute annoying to hear everytime
rotund niche
id have to agree with hunters
narrow trout
It's gotta be Hunters for me. They're so ~~cute and lovely~~ annoying they keep ...
i fucking hate all vermin
sacred tapir
i hate the changes to most terminids
ah yes, "We won't nerf coyote" releases change that makes it harder to ignite enemies with coyote
ah but they buffed the enemy's fire resistance, not nerf the gun
ok pal
fuck you arrowhead
retards cant just let us have a win without giving us 2 losses
fucking idiots
plucky lion
being able to kill most small/medium enemies with just a couple bullets and then let em burn to death was a bit too good imo
it had insane ammo efficiency
red jetty
Just wear the backpack
plucky lion
tho the funny part was at the time it came out we needed every bit of help we could get against the new bugs
sacred tapir
The coyote is a rifle first, flame thingy second
oh they also made warriors eat 2 dilligence shots
because they upped durability
so they also made all the durable damage changes pointless
simultaneously making any guns with no durable buffs, WORSE
they legit shadow nerfed half our guns
just because
i hate them
this game is a POWER FANTASY at heart, arrowhead cant see that, and are trying to make it grunt fantasy, which is stupid
since THE CURRENT FORMULA WORKS
the one theyre trying to make isnt
this game is still piss poor easy, all theyve done is make it more tedious
red jetty
Warriors taking 2 shots to the head isn't exactly an insane idea
sacred tapir
Warriors taking 2 shots to the head isn't exactly an insane idea
FROM DILIGENCE??
red jetty
Why are you using a DMR at all?
sacred tapir
165 damage??
sacred tapir
Why are you using a DMR at all?
because its fun?
ah yes use meta
no i want to have fun
also a dmr?
that should one shot heads
its the helldiver equivalent of .308
it should 1 shot the head of the 2nd weakest chaff enemy
do you deadass think that it shouldnt?
thats goofy as shit
red jetty
If it's a .308, and we're shooting the equivalent of a small elk, it should take 3
DMRs are for bots
Automatons
sacred tapir
If it's a .308, and we're shooting the equivalent of a small elk, it should take...
3?????????
red jetty
You're shooting an unarmored head, you don't need very high damage and very high precision
sacred tapir
If you brain it, but so does everything
well what happens when you shoot a bug in the head
you brain it
holy shit
this is not hard to understand
therefore 1 shot
simple as that
red jetty
There exists space in a creature that isn't made of brain
sacred tapir
this patch is D+ tier
they did good
but also did lots of stupid shit
also more drag on many weapons, making them even less effective at range
red jetty
So flush all the good down the shitter cause you have to click twice?
sacred tapir
So flush all the good down the shitter cause you have to click twice?
no, because of the amount of bad
the good is nice, but the bad is terrible
red jetty
Slightly harder to kill things with fire? That's about it
sacred tapir
this is a mediocre patch
and harder to kill things PERIOD
what part of more durability do you not understand
red jetty
Just hold the trigger down
red jetty
Bugs aren't the use case for DMRs and high precision weapons. Those are for automatons
sacred tapir
"slightly increased durablilty" slightly is 5-10%, not 20-30%
arrowhead are retarded
sacred tapir
Bugs aren't the use case for DMRs and high precision weapons. Those are for auto...
no, theyre for anyone
precision weapons work on bugs
red jetty
They just buffed most of the ARs to counteract that nerf
high timber
most bugs got a 20-30% durable boost
"most bugs" warriors and bile spewers only
two already pretty easy to kill bugs
red jetty
If you want a battle rifle use the literal FAL analog
sacred tapir
"most bugs" warriors and bile spewers only
two already pretty easy to kill bugs
hive guards
high timber
where
high timber
brood commander only change was fire
red jetty
Brood commanders are designed to be hard to kill no matter what. They're unarmored but you need heavy ordinance
high timber
yeah okay
I don't like hidden changes
high timber
but still I haven't found them being harder at all
red jetty
Hive guards are not hard to kill
sacred tapir
Hive guards are not hard to kill
no theyre not, but try the hive guard seed out
they toss like 200 at you
and now theyre a bit more annoying
red jetty
The bugs got buffed in lockstep with the AR buffs giving them more durable and standard damage
sacred tapir
also making things harder to kill doesnt make it better
sacred tapir
The bugs got buffed in lockstep with the AR buffs giving them more durable and s...
yes, but as a result, ANYTHING NOT AR RELATED IS WORSE
red jetty
Every bullshit seed is annoying, cause it throws 100 of whatever type at you
high timber
like my dumbass is bringing the sprayandpray and gas and it's FINE
sacred tapir
try SMGs, they feel worse
high timber
it's genuinely fine
the SMGs feel better
red jetty
Every shotgun except the auto has always been shit
sacred tapir
since now it punishes those who can aim
thats retarded
the patch did lots of bad
we cant overlook that they did backhanded hidden changes
and lots of balance that is just bad for gameplay
high timber
only ones that counteract some of the buffs they did
sacred tapir
they lack respect for their players
sacred tapir
only ones that counteract some of the buffs they did
which is counterintuitive
high timber
like
idk bro this doesn't seem like much of a big deal
red jetty
You're supposed to use certain weapons for certain enemies. There is no all front gun, except maybe the FAL
sacred tapir
why buff, just to nerf
high timber
why buff, just to nerf
so it's stronger against the factions that aren't the bugs
sacred tapir
so it's stronger against the factions that aren't the bugs
the reprimand is a certified bot gun
yet they then nerf it against its only faction
WHY
sacred tapir
you guys are just ignoring their glaring issues
sacred tapir
how is the reprimand a bot gun
whats it good for?
25 round mag
high damage
low fire rate
mediocre reserve mag count
thats bot gun
high timber
does quite well against the bugs man idk what to tell you
sacred tapir
high efficiency on bots, since they reward precision
red jetty
Use bug guns for bugs (ARs, shotguns) bot guns for bots (SMG+shield, battle rifles, explodey launchers) and squid guns for squids (they all suck)
sacred tapir
does quite well against the bugs man idk what to tell you
not as well as bots
im just pointing out theres lots of shit thats just not good for players
high timber
like TWO things
sacred tapir
they really do take 1 step forward and 2 steps back
red jetty
I don't use a 5.56 to hunt moose and complain that it's bad, I switch to the gun that I'm meant to use
sacred tapir
everytime
sacred tapir
I don't use a 5.56 to hunt moose and complain that it's bad, I switch to the gun...
thats a bad analogy
but ok
high timber
two guns getting their breakpoints shifted around a bit isn't "lots of things wrong with this patch" I don't think
sacred tapir
also 5.56 is sufficient to hunt moose, just not even close to optimal
red jetty
5.56 is too small for moose
sacred tapir
requires expert shot placement
sacred tapir
5.56 is too small for moose
not really, just a bitch to get a good shot
red jetty
Yeah and if we're all SEAL snipers then we can hunt bear with .17 HMR
That's not the point
red jetty
The point is different guns for different enemies
Don't use a single load out and expect it to work for everyone
sacred tapir
im done, i cant be asked to argue that this is stupid, diligence should one shot warriors, reprimand should one shot devs past 30m
to the HEADs
not everywhere mind you
the AMR should 1 tap hulk eyes past 80 meters
is a sniper, not a cqc gun
should act like one
lots of other small things like that
sacred tapir
AT rifles lose a lot of pen over range
sure, but 80 meters? come on now
red jetty
Yes
sacred tapir
on hulks? which are heavy pen
its still dumb
helldivers isnt realistic
it shouldnt have to be perfect
it should be fun first, realism second
but they put grunt fantasy first, then realism, then fun
red jetty
Then apply to the dev team and get to work on it
sacred tapir
its stupid
sacred tapir
Then apply to the dev team and get to work on it
as if
just stop defending the bad changes
and recognize them for what they are
red jetty
I'm not going to die on the hill of my favorite gun not being perfect against an enemy its not meant to fight
sacred tapir
you misunderstood my whole point
red jetty
your whole point is Dili should 1 shot warriors
sacred tapir
your whole point is Dili should 1 shot warriors
clearly you lack reading comprehension
that was just the start, there was more
plucky lion
for no reason
it wasnt for no reason. it was part of the light pen/medium pen rebalance. it's why a bunch of light pen weapons got large buffs to durable damage
as to whether or not i like the rebalance i can't say yet. i need to use more weapons still to really get a feel for it
rotund niche
the insane amount of "drag" that they added to the smgs pisses me off the most
they already had doubled it in the past not too long ago if i remember correctly
plucky lion
yeah they nerfed my beloved verdict. i love nailing headshots with me desert eagl
rotund niche
its such an odd change to make
plucky lion
feels like something they forced themselves into for consistency's sake since the verdict uses the same ammunition as the reprimand and they dont like making the same ammo have different qualities
in any case the verdict certainly did not need any nerfs. it's a pretty mid-tier sidearm...
rotund niche
the only sidearm i use anymore is the ultimatum
red jetty
ultimatum and GP are basically the only ones you should use
plucky lion
the loyalist has pretty impressive damage output. can be handy if you are using a light pen primary
red jetty
everything has its use cases, but if I'm not using a mostly explosive loadout, I use the GP and ulti
plucky lion
never liked the gp. feels like the only use for it is blowing up spawners
it's kinda lousy vs enemies
red jetty
that's all it's useful for
plucky lion
certainly has its place because of that abiliy though
red jetty
it's good if you're not using a grenade that's your designated spawner destroyer
empty zealot
I need to unlock more secondary weapons, been using ultimatum for ages now
At least now I've the crisper
GP is kinda eh
Fuck them with their drag increase, though
plain bough
realism in games only applies when it sucks
rancid ibex
Realism in games sucks
light nymph
real sucks
red jetty
Real within reason
If you want brutal hard-core, starship troopers is probably more geared towards that
But maybe it isn't, I never played it
rotund niche
i watched a bit of some gameplay, and there was just too much tedium in it
red jetty
It's helldivers but only bugs, and only a couple variants
Yeah it's gonna be stale really fast
Only cool thing is the amount of people that can be in multiplayer
rotund niche
to be fair they are very different games
heavy heart
it's almost a tower defence game, with a big team who work together or die, vs 4 murder hobos with too many explosions. Very, very different games.
loud bison
a week for Oshaune
plain bough
Oh boy here we go cave diving again
plucky lion
didnt see any burrowers, but did see a few dragonroaches
i guess we're doin pred strain + roaches
rotund niche
im tired of bugs, boss
rancid ibex
It's a good move for the game, but it sucks for people who can't move or afford an SSD yet
"storage is cheap" mf how bout I cave your skull in with my 1tb HDD
rotund niche
how aboot you get with the times grandpa
plain bough
how aboot you get with the times grandpa
rancid ibex
Look I have an SSD now, but earning for it didn't feel satisfying. I had to claw my way to earn it, and not like anyone living in a first world country buying it as if an hour at the office can buy them a new SSD
$50 ssd is cheap? Here $50 is 3,000 php
rotund niche
idk what to say man, it sucks but it sucks more for the very small subset of players to drag down the majority of players
it sucks but it is what it is
rancid ibex
And 3,000 php is good enough to pay your rent, and all your bills, electricity, water, and groceries
Things necessary to survive, I'm surprised the economy here hasn't completely collapsed, but it's never gonna get better anyways. And considering I'm only earning money by doing side hustles because I'm still in college, earning for a single PC part takes ages
Sure wish I was born as an industry plant
(and nepotism)
sharp gorge
"storage is cheap" mf how bout I cave your skull in with my 1tb HDD
Oh you're one of the three HDD users
rancid ibex
light nymph
"storage is cheap" mf how bout I cave your skull in with my 1tb HDD
sure, you can do that right after you load into the game
empty zealot
In my country, both HDDs and SSDs cost pretty much the same
eager cliff
Pretty much every dogshit prebuilt.with "gayming" in name has an SSD at least
earnest stag
Yeah if you cant afford an ssd nowadays your in a country that doesnt want its people out of the stone age
Time for democracy
sacred tapir
Yeah if you cant afford an ssd nowadays your in a country that doesnt want its p...
thanks, i love my country's hatred for SSDs
ah yes, 1 TB ssd at 100 dollar
2 TB costs a kidney, no less
vagrant valley
Bots hate to see this build coming
fleet gazelle
2 TB costs a kidney, no less
Buying a 2TB SSD from AliExpress for $100 and not seeing the catch.
cunning escarp
vagrant valley
2 TB costs a kidney, no less
I got one for under $100 on cyber Monday
Newegg had some fuckin DEALS
I swear truth enforcers remind me of him
rancid ibex
ah yes, 1 TB ssd at 100 dollar
I fucking hate my third world shitty life
sacred tapir
I fucking hate my third world shitty life
Some of the first world isnt doing too hot either
So dont worry
dire igloo
Go to junk yards and start searching for 2015-2020 electronics in the electronics section
Might be method considering I've found a good amount of shit that can be used still in pcs, unbroken, fully working
rotund niche
old tv boxes tend to have ssds in em
red jetty
DVRs are usually HDDs, unless they're really new
rotund niche
i found a 100 gb ssd from one at a thift shop a few years back
not great but it was like 3 or 5 bucks
rancid ibex
loud bison
reeeee
rancid ibex
The retards finally admitted it
Holy hell just tell the community in the first place you're nerfing the coyote instead of making every enemy take more fire to be lit on and then not telling them it was to nerf the coyote
loud bison
fire nerf is such ass
plain bough
our fire weapons have discount fuel now
sharp gorge
Great job, you nerfed fire as a whole across the whole spectrum
rancid ibex
Fire is already ass it didn't even need to be more ass 
rotund niche
https://youtu.be/oPNBwzkM3vM?
red jetty
Fire would be better if it lasted longer in general
Napalm is gone after like 10 seconds
Flamethrower ground fire is gone so fast
We need super diesel thick fuel mixtures
plucky lion
Great job, you nerfed fire as a whole across the whole spectrum
which they failed to address, making all that they said there not worth much.
i 100% agree with their assessment on the coyote nerf, but wtf that isn't the problem
red jetty
I think they should implement a burn system, similar to armor, where certain flame items have certain burn levels. That way we can have an incendiary rifle that deals a different amount of damage than napalm, so you don't need to nerf both so that the rifle isn't that strong
Maybe the coyote is a Burn level 1. 2-3 bullets to activate afterburn, and it lasts for x seconds. Napalm is level 5, so it does more damage and burns for longer, etc
plucky lion
right. the issue could be they dont have different types of 'fire' so they dont have a way to reduce the coyote's fire damage without nerfing other things
red jetty
I guarantee you that's the issue. There's only 1 type or instance of fire
dire igloo
Me when the entire issue is fixed
By just making coyote fire a different variable
And I change the fucking damage it does
But I don't do that and I just make fire damage worse as a whole
rotund niche
some asswipe kicked me from his game after we completed everything
still made it out but it was tricky
eager cliff
May God trip him on the stairs
steady zinc
narrow trout
Full circle
rotund niche
i can feel my brain melting
graceful compass
i like when developers arent bad at their games actually
it means that balance changes usually make sense because they actually experience the game like the players do
rancid ibex
The hell's the point of making games if you don't play it at its fullest
"yeah so uhm i made this game and it has an impossible difficulty but like i only play on trivial mode lol so enjoy if u play on impossible lol i didnt test it lol"
Absolute bitch baby behavior I've seen Warframe devs play at level cap and they do fine in it
steady zinc
plucky lion
judging by how the game's balance has been all over the place i'm not sure it means much of anything for balance's sake
pale hollow
Absolute bitch baby behavior I've seen Warframe devs play at level cap and they ...
Warframe is such a bad example here, as doing high level stuff just requires the right build, skill is a minimal factor in Warframe
sharp gorge
Case in point, just press two buttons on Saryn
rancid ibex
Still tho, devs should play their games
And should know their games from the in and outs
Instead of a fuckin spreadsheet
steady zinc
Still tho, devs should play their games
Or get this, bring back playtester as a profession
scarlet edge
Is this still about hd2 being to hard on harder difficulties?
graceful compass
about how the devs arent good at the game
and thus things are balanced in strange ways
plucky lion
Instead of a fuckin spreadsheet
they still need the spreadsheet
but playing to see how things feel in addition to crunching the numerical balancing is important
graceful compass
honestly this game was more fun early on when it was hard to kill the big enemies but there werent literally 10 of them on the screen for half the time playing
sharp gorge
Just fight 50 hive guards lil bro
fleet gazelle
Things were more interesting at the start on Oshone. The stalker nest could glitch and spawn stalkers nonstop, 30 damn stalkers, with another 50 on the way. By the time you got there, you'd have used up all your ammo.
fleet gazelle
Where is the head?
rancid ibex
I ate it
empty zealot
Gotta love how I went to sleep yesterday and Oshaune was at 20% of liberation, woke up, and now it's 10%
plain bough
Gotta love how I went to sleep yesterday and Oshaune was at 20% of liberation, w...
we're progressing, just backwards
loud bison
empty zealot
And it ain't only Oshaune, Crimsica is also wild as hell
eager cliff
twin nebula
All my homies hate Oshaune
eager cliff
"You're gonna to die for some Super samples?"
"Ill take the warp pack"
"You gonna call your own""
"You called it for me."
empty zealot
steady zinc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w0GRcSVTAc
That shit looks sick!
plain bough
Gotta love how its predator strain, hive lords and dragonroaches on Oshaune
plucky lion
dont forget ur knockback weapons 🙂
rotund niche
Gotta love how its predator strain, hive lords and dragonroaches on Oshaune
Id rather have predator over rupture
slim coral
rancid ibex
WT channel is 2 channels down
slim coral
WT channel is 2 channels down
I posted WT in Helldiver
at the same time Helldiver in WT
empty zealot
😭
plucky lion
man cave diving is brutal
heroically complete the last flag as destroyer leaves orbit just for everyone to get picked off by stalkers and hive lord on the way back
plain bough
the players knowing we gotta kill hive lords but contribute minimally to fighting it
still that kill count is going rather fast
eager cliff
the players knowing we gotta kill hive lords but contribute minimally to fightin...
wait we do?
is it an order?
plain bough
wait we do?
50K hive lords
eager cliff
what build do you use for it
eager cliff
50K hive lords
i just wanna play the game man
i dont wanna afk whole game killing a 100k hp boss two teammates refuse
sigh
i know you use the emancipator
plain bough
what build do you use for it
If I wanna meta it, thermite, recoiless, emancipator, eagle strafing runs and orbital barrage
eager cliff
yeah you break the armor
KINDA FUNNY HOW RAILCANNON STRIKE DOESNT WORK
THANK YOU SUPER EARTH
IT CAN TARGET THE SMALLEST BUG BUT IT CANT TARGE THE GIANT WORM
plain bough
but we're doing the hive lords thing quickly, we're at 26K killed already
eager cliff
i guess people are just going on the lowest diff they can spawn , kill them and either reset the mission or just do the task as its much easier
but on diff 10 i cant imagine being able to finish the mission and the hive lord
its cancer
plain bough
but on diff 10 i cant imagine being able to finish the mission and the hive lord
with dragonroaches spawning and fucking us over as well
sharp gorge
50K hive lords
plain bough
think the turrets do, but they don't last long considering all the shit going on
eager cliff
Yeah and they also target chaff i assume
plucky lion
but on diff 10 i cant imagine being able to finish the mission and the hive lord
even on diff 9 just finishing the mission while ignoring the hive lord is tough
eager cliff
i wish in those instances we would get like 10 more lives on diff 10
or at least 2 per diver
so 8 more lives
plucky lion
and if your squad gets split up in the tunnels it all goes to hell
plain bough
and if your squad gets split up in the tunnels it all goes to hell
Me watching one dude tryna solo a mega hive but dying 6 times with no progress
fleet gazelle
but on diff 10 i cant imagine being able to finish the mission and the hive lord
5-10 minutes, leisurely. People bombard him with airstrikes and ultimatums. Some take the hellbomb at will.
And no one is forcing anyone, it’s done just for fun, and then the mission is closed.
Diff level 10 is played by either experienced fighters or those who have recently discovered it.
plain bough
we're at 32K hive lords killed, going quite fast
light nymph
Killing a Hive Lord larva does not count as killing an adult.
it counts as an abortion
fleet gazelle
empty zealot
40k already
Never killed a hive lord, but I ain't doing this with randoms, that's for sure.
plain bough
Idk man, killed a couple hive lords earlier with randos
rotund niche
killing hive lords is fucking boring
i just find them annoying going from objective to objective
empty zealot
That's what I am experiencing rn
Okay, it wasn't that bad. But I sure hope that there is only one hive lord per mission.
rotund niche
you get what, 222 xp for it? thats just a "good job" sticker they give you out of pity
rotund niche
its literally not worth your time
plucky lion
they should have at least made it drop some kinda goodies...
empty zealot
fr
rotund niche
make it drop a piniata full of samples or something at least
plucky lion
10 sc for killing a hive lord would feel much more worth it
rotund niche
yeah that could work too
just give any incentive to kill it and i might care
a minor order isn't a good incentive
rotund niche
id guess so? i haven't played on anything less than 7 in ages
empty zealot
Started to do so some long time ago, as well
empty zealot
a minor order isn't a good incentive
thing is, he will appear in pretty much every mission
rotund niche
thing is, he will appear in pretty much every mission <:shrug:129372528434794090...
yeah, its just more of the same
empty zealot
God I fucking hate that a big mob corpse can kill you
such bs
I with one guy killed a roach by a pod, then we died to his fucking corpse
how does that even work
rotund niche
big things falling on small things hurts small things
empty zealot
it wasn't even that close to me
rotund niche
bad netcode then or something would be my guess
empty zealot
I do doubt that fucking wings can kill a helldiver, though
rotund niche
or retarded hitboxes which dragon roaches tend to have
runic sentinel
@eager cliff why is the channel moved down
plain bough
because tarkov needed to be moved up for suicide watch
graceful compass
i, too, complained about this
loud bison
you get what, 222 xp for it? thats just a "good job" sticker they give you out o...
yeah
rotund niche
i was just in a game where the hive lord just kinda... died?
we weren't fighting it at all, just kinda avoiding it
and then we got the notification we killed it and i got confused
gaunt topaz
i was just in a game where the hive lord just kinda... died?
realizes helldivers are on its planet and dies of cringe
plucky lion
well it sure wasn't me lol
plain bough
nice, we got rupture strain on oshaune now and somehow the hive lords are still here despite killing 50K of em
AH inducing extra CBT
empty zealot
rotund niche
i have been liking the plasma punisher on the bugs quite a bit
plucky lion
it's pretty good now. just not sure whether i prefer it or purifier now
purifier has much more dmg potential, but Ppunisher is a more nimble weapon
rotund niche
im not a fan of the charge up on a primary
its a really good gun but it doesn't really mesh with how i play
plucky lion
it forces a slower play style
eager cliff
nice, we got rupture strain on oshaune now and somehow the hive lords are still ...
imagine if they gave us like 4-5 days of no hive lord modifier
eager cliff
graceful compass
is that a dude
plucky lion
doesnt look like it, but idk if eyes are a reliable tell
eager cliff
eager cliff
the hands too
hop on oshaune bbg
fast spindle
is that a dude
Doesnt matter
eager cliff
that one looks lit
graceful compass
that one looks lit
almost done with the mod shit
graceful compass
eager cliff
imma mod some shit too fuck it
shy schooner
<:kekl:1028025674688102441>
Whooo???
graceful compass
plain bough
time to dive onto hell
eager cliff
runic sentinel
feels like a man
fleet gazelle
fleet gazelle
It's a pity that the bile titans were removed from Oshone.
rotund niche
it would be nice if they would swap between bile titans and dragon roaches
plucky lion
Star already ragequitted
i would have kept on but my buddy was demanding i put up the minecraft server
rotund niche
minecraft crafting table
eager cliff
eager cliff
fleet gazelle
sharp gorge
Oh hey it's the White Woman That Can Be Trusted With Dogs®
fleet gazelle
Help me stepbrother, I'm stuck.
steady zinc
fleet gazelle
Didn't fall.
empty zealot
What the actual
eager cliff
What the actual
cheaters prob
empty zealot
Portable hellbomb is so good and fun to use on bots, ngl
rotund niche
democracy protects working an a portable hellbomb is always fun
slim coral
loud bison
rancid ibex
0 medals gained because I'm at max medals and can't afford a new warbond yet. Thanks, Arrowhead
rancid ibex
I spent 4 hours playing warframe instead
I haven't played for awhile man they keep fucking up and deceiving us
vagrant valley
They gotta give us SOMETHING else to spend medals on or just yeet the medal cap entirely
I hope the alleged C4 pack is better than dynamite
empty zealot
What's the update for almost 3 GB? 
fleet gazelle
Wrong door.
sharp gorge
Posting stalker in Helldivers smh
rancid ibex
No stalker posting
empty zealot
I hate those fucks
Literally with a thin ass tongue they can bounce me with heavy armor on
Pretty balanced, as everything ah makes
vagrant valley
They’re light work