🤖🐛🦑helldivers

[empty zealot]

My friend never played it, we tried it once and he didn't like it as well

[plucky lion]

i dont like leviathan blockades, but now that i have my trusty spear i no longer have to suffer a charging meatball anymore and it's wonderful

[empty zealot]

Speargun is so goated

[plucky lion]

so much utility in one gun

[empty zealot]

Fr

[sacred tapir]

well thats because nothing works but medium

its just stupid

i want to use light pen

[empty zealot]

He was using eruptor, but still

[sacred tapir]

but too bad, daddy arrowhead doesnt like well balanced enemies anymore

[plucky lion]

they want us to suffer lol

[sacred tapir]

all that weakpoint design? out the window

bugs used to have weakpoints for light, sometimes medium

now they dont

[empty zealot]

I do doubt you would use light pen on high difficulties, though

[plucky lion]

honestly the thing that bothers me the most about fighting these new bugs is that turrets are useless

if i could still rely on turrets to back me up it would be fine

[empty zealot]

I've seen one comment about turrets

[sacred tapir]

i would

i do

i fucking DO

[empty zealot]

We need that one thing from hl2 that stomps the earth as a turret

Or at least sth that would make them get up

Cause this is annoying

I'm mostly certain that their qa team ain't doing shit

[plucky lion]

yeah a way to force them up in a decent aoe would be super valuable

i would give up a strategem slot for that

[empty zealot]

Thought about mech stomps for some reason

We are getting more transport, but mech should be more variable as well

Or at least have something more than just guns

[graceful compass]

lib pen is unfathomable dogshit and people glazing it because it could get big mag when attachments came out seemed so random to me

[plucky lion]

its decent with the drum mag

still nothing compared to an eruptor though lol

[graceful compass]

id rather use the pummler

[plucky lion]

the somewhat low dps and no stagger makes it a suicidal choice vs predator strain though

[empty zealot]

There is that one youtuber testing guns in super helldive difficulty on auromatons, Iirc lib pen did somewhat fine with the drum mag.

[sacred tapir]

doesnt spear make them pop up

the speargun

[empty zealot]

It does

[graceful compass]

there are just so many other weapons that are so much nicer to use against bots

or anyone for that matter

[plucky lion]

its not meta vs anything

but serviceable against most things

[graceful compass]

not even looking at the explosive or plasma weapons

id rather use like 10 other weapons before lib pen

[plucky lion]

idk i havent tested that

[graceful compass]

yes it does

[empty zealot]

Okay, I got it that I've used that before coyote, chill

[graceful compass]

since the spear gas has demo force

which i think is how that works

[plucky lion]

i should bring the plas punisher next time i do bugs. i bet it will do well

[empty zealot]

https://youtu.be/W0HVFopf4Tk

I think he has shown most of the things that can do that.

[graceful compass]

i think its bugged rn and not doing impact damage

[empty zealot]

Ah, yes

[plucky lion]

is this a new thing?

probably wouldnt matter a lot to me anyway since im often aiming at the ground with it lol

[empty zealot]

I might have confused you here, I can't confirm that about punisher but I am not surprised that sth is bugged

[plucky lion]

the direct damage isnt why we use the plas punisher. its the aoe

and the stagger with that aoe

[slim coral]

I frequently run Grenade Pistol

Just to need a backup since ammo are piss poor to get on the planet and require infinite source like Talon

[plucky lion]

grenade pistol? what for forcing enemies to surface?

[slim coral]

Yep

Or Eruptor

[plucky lion]

oh why would i bother with something with so little ammo when the loyalist exists

[empty zealot]

We should get an update today, I think?

[slim coral]

Coyote nerf

No fun's allowed

[empty zealot]

At least we would still have the spear

[slim coral]

Nerf spear too

[empty zealot]

Also somehow they have fucked up de-escalator

[slim coral]

People can bomb structure with missile silo?

Yep

Nerf that too

[slim coral]

I miss the De escalator when released

It was bestge gun

[plucky lion]

how was it even changed? i havent noticed anything

[empty zealot]

Then typical nerf after profit

[plucky lion]

it still does great damage vs bile titans

[slim coral]

Before De escalator does not have damage multiplier cap

So the more they get zapped the bigger electric damage stacked

They capped that as a "fix"

[plucky lion]

was that done a while ago?

[slim coral]

Yep

Oh wait recent nerf?

[empty zealot]

Now they did sth else

[slim coral]

Idk but I did notice its not as effective as crowd control no more

[empty zealot]

They redid sth and it fucked it up

[slim coral]

Theres still no reason to use arc thrower

[empty zealot]

I do wonder which warbond should I get next

Gas one seems tempting

[sacred tapir]

hey its fun

[slim coral]

Gas one is outclassed by new warbond

[plucky lion]

the gas grenade and the gas dog are pretty legit

[empty zealot]

Gas grenades

Gas dog

Lol

[slim coral]

Gas Spear

[empty zealot]

We need gas ammo

[slim coral]

I remember buying it for the stim pistol

[empty zealot]

For the main weapon

[slim coral]

And its handling is worse than eruptor

Somehow

[plucky lion]

lol

[empty zealot]

Also can't stim the guys with the energy shield

Cinema

[plucky lion]

gotta shoot ur bros to save them

[empty zealot]

Oh yeah, speaking of stratagems

[slim coral]

I could have sworn there is a gas turret

But maybe its mendela effect

[sacred tapir]

gas dog is decent actually

it does shit

[slim coral]

Gas Dog, Laser Dog, Guard Dog > Zap Dog

That thing will kill your teammate more than your enemies

[plucky lion]

its good for one simple reason : it has its own special targeting logic. it does not waste gas on already gased enemies

[slim coral]

I wish there is a way you can have guard dog specifically target pinged enemy

So far I think only rocket turret does it

[plucky lion]

i thought only mortar turrets are supposed to work that way, at least thats what the game tells me fwiw

[empty zealot]

https://youtu.be/y8JKBn36820
4:20

[slim coral]

Man EAT brings me a lot of joy

I cant bring EAT w me on this planet

[empty zealot]

The napalm one is quite nice as well

[plucky lion]

we can bring EAT, NEAT, and commando now to truly pollute the field with weaponry everywhere XD

[slim coral]

I was half expecting they give you 2 of them

But only one

[empty zealot]

Huh

[slim coral]

People came to my game and I could have sworn I only see one when dropped

[empty zealot]

You get 2 napalms

[plucky lion]

do be careful when blowing up spawners with it though. i kinda incinerated my team once when the bomblets decided to go everywhere even tho i aimed down a vent

[empty zealot]

Lol

[plucky lion]

it's very much a 'oops' weapon

[slim coral]

All of my teammate run different armor and im just sit in the dragon spill with 75% Fire Armor

"This is fine"

I kinda wish they made mech's paint to have different buff

But ig thats too pay 2 win

[empty zealot]

I do wonder when the thing in the video will come out

If it will, even

[empty zealot]

We need more mechs

[slim coral]

They need to let us call in new GATER

Idk

I just like to drive it on non mission

For no reasons

[empty zealot]

I'm honestly low key disappointing that you ain't getting new stuff after lvl 25

[slim coral]

Kinda sad they never added handheld microguns

[plucky lion]

yep then it's all about grinding warbonds baby

[empty zealot]

We will get brdm or whatever it's called

[slim coral]

APC

[empty zealot]

Also tank

And the one thing for citizens

[plucky lion]

a multi-crew vehicle that doesnt explode when an enemy sneezes on it would be so much fun

[empty zealot]

Well

[plucky lion]

the FRV is great and all, but man it gets fucked by EVERYTHING lo

[slim coral]

Scout Car?

Shit man

[empty zealot]

The thing in oil missions is apparently immune to fire, so you can spam nappalm barrage on it

[slim coral]

They are equipped with non-tread wheel

Shit skids everywhere

[plucky lion]

yeah on some planets it's horrible

[empty zealot]

Flying vehicles

[plucky lion]

on some planets its ok

[slim coral]

The only planet thats not horrible is completely flat planet

Like the seismic probe mission

[tawny mirage]

hive lords are ass

[plucky lion]

and dont drive on ice planets lol

[tawny mirage]

changemymind

[slim coral]

Kimda stupid you cant dive when the water is above your ankle

So you have to trek water very slowly

[empty zealot]

Spear, mechs, autocannnon with flack and rocket sentry

[plucky lion]

ikr my cheap korean piece of shit car handles water better than the frv

[tawny mirage]

sure! at the low low cost of 10 hellbombs worth of damage

[empty zealot]

Iirc guys killed the hive lord in 2 mins with that load out

[slim coral]

Shoot off armor and shoot that part

But tbh I dont think you are meant to fight Hive Lord

You are meant to run away from it

[plucky lion]

you get a small reward for killing it. that means it's an optional objective

[tawny mirage]

out run it....

when it kills you instantly...

[slim coral]

Thats the neat part

You dont

[tawny mirage]

here is where arrowhead shows its incompetence

[plucky lion]

it's more like, yeah you can kill it if you want to flex, but there is no need to

[empty zealot]

https://youtu.be/M1ckhq_HbNI

[tawny mirage]

you are supposed to ignore an enemy that actively attacks you

[empty zealot]

There's the vid

[tawny mirage]

and 1 hits you on top of that

[slim coral]

Its extremely hard to dodge it

[tawny mirage]

and unless you have a VERY specific build with teammates

[slim coral]

Especially when it does spit since some map has barely any cover

[tawny mirage]

you cannot effectively counter it

[empty zealot]

Imagine killing the guy for 222 exp

[tawny mirage]

and mind you

if you DO counter it

[empty zealot]

[tawny mirage]

you dont have a build for the rest of the mission

[slim coral]

This bad boy can fit a lot of Expendable Anti Tanks

[empty zealot]

Check the video

[slim coral]

Spear is meta man

[sacred tapir]

i think it should be like 500 xp

[slim coral]

I love Spear

[sacred tapir]

since its just so fucking tanky

[empty zealot]

Some dudes were killing him in 20 minutes

[sacred tapir]

yeah, 20 whole ass minutes

thats half a mission

for 222 xp

id lose my shit if i was the first person to kill it

for that meager amount

[empty zealot]

And the reward being FUCKING 222 xp is absolute ly retarded

[slim coral]

Shoulda give us Super Credit or Medal

[sacred tapir]

yeah, it just coughs up 50sc for killing it

id say itd have to be more than that though

[slim coral]

Worth it

[empty zealot]

Too much

[slim coral]

Thats 50 cents right there

[sacred tapir]

since i can farm up 50 in like 15 minutes

on a good map

[plucky lion]

AH are just such cunts with how they refuse to give us SC for anything except random loot crates

[sacred tapir]

i mean its not a cunt move compared to the rest of the industry

[slim coral]

Ig ppl praise them for letting us farm credits but god damn

We pay 30 bucks for this game

[sacred tapir]

that shit is fucking NICE overall

[empty zealot]

Especially if we are doing the strat on the video

[sacred tapir]

even if its stupid to me

[plucky lion]

not much a bar to pass

[slim coral]

I rather pay a large sum of money for DLC than battle pass

[empty zealot]

He should drop half of the samples

If not sc then at least sth actually useful, not xp

[slim coral]

I wish they let us construct a planet defense cannon

So we can blast that ass

[sacred tapir]

i know

but its still decent

[empty zealot]

Actually mission about killing him

[sacred tapir]

"samples"

as if half the player base isnt maxxed out

i know wah new players

[empty zealot]

I'm not

[sacred tapir]

but still

new players probably wont be grinding hive lords

[empty zealot]

Medals, then

[sacred tapir]

i sure wouldnt be

[plucky lion]

yeah that means the other half will still get mad at you for throwing samples lol

[sacred tapir]

medals is ok

[slim coral]

Alexus looks at us having fun killing Hive Lord and proceeded to bump its health up to 250000 to reflect Helldiver 1

[plucky lion]

what medals needs is a higher cap

[sacred tapir]

i just leave samples behind unless im playing with non maxxed players

[plucky lion]

250 medals vanish in an instant when u buy a warbond

[sacred tapir]

which is rarer on high difs

yeah i know, make it 500

not like you lose money since you still have to earn them

[plucky lion]

idk why they dont want us to be able to unlock all the content in a warbond at once? why is that bad?

[slim coral]

Barely 2nd page

[sacred tapir]

like bro the warp pack takes 110

holy shit lol

[sacred tapir]

because uh urm yeah idk bro

[slim coral]

I havent unlocked the free bond

[empty zealot]

Speargun was 85

[plucky lion]

85 WELL SPENT

[empty zealot]

True

!true

[cursive glade]

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[empty zealot]

Gotta enjoy it before the nerf

[slim coral]

I hate the fact that all strategem are unlocked via warbond now

[sacred tapir]

and none are red

thats my biggest gripe

WHERES MY RED STRATS ARROWHEAD?

WHERE ARE THEY?

HUH?

[empty zealot]

Don't you also not spend requisition on those stratagems?

[plucky lion]

yeah we havent got a red strategem since... idk man a verrrry long time

[slim coral]

I wish they let us had Pelican One Strategem

[empty zealot]

Spawn some small mechs/squads to help you out

[slim coral]

@sacred tapir would it be funny if you can have an Orbital Strategem that shoots all of the DSS armament strategem that you bring w you targeting group of enemy near you

But you have to wait for all of them to refresh before using again

[empty zealot]

This game has endless possibilities

Too bad the engine and devs are both in stinky situations

[slim coral]

Wish they had Eagle shot the Silo Missile guided to the biggest target

Like Orbital Railgun but Eagle

[empty zealot]

Silo can also keep circling around lmfao

Reminds me of hl2 rl

[slim coral]

Eagle One dropping a Super Toilet?

Which is based on real life event

[empty zealot]

With what game can they possibly collab

[slim coral]

Starship trooper

[empty zealot]

Warhammer?

[slim coral]

And Alien

Fighting Xeno on bug planet

[empty zealot]

There was a leak about automatons making sth as death star or sth

Like from star wars

[slim coral]

Automaton base invasion?

Shit'd be rad

[tawny mirage]

remind me how the playerbase is supposed to win the war?

[empty zealot]

If game masters would crank up the shit, we won't

Also if most of the players would also struggle with bugs, performance and shit

We ain't completing this major order for sure

[plucky lion]

that's the neat part, you don't

there is probably some moral lesson about imperialism in here, but ah who cares, kill some bugs

[slim coral]

Pre-nerf Leviathans

[tawny mirage]

its because AH again has a conflicting vision

they want a grimdark setting, but made the game a power fantasy

[plucky lion]

this game is waay to campy to ever be grimdark

[slim coral]

Pretty sure the game was always a power fantasy but thats just me

[tawny mirage]

not really a power fantasy if all the good work you do means nothing in the end

[plucky lion]

they got a sense of humor unlike warhammer

[tawny mirage]

it would be like halo if master chief died in halo 1

[slim coral]

The game was never tried to be grimdark but a lot of the lore added is dark

[plucky lion]

doesnt mean the vision is conflicted. perhaps you just dont understand it

[tawny mirage]

i mean

if the community can rally like in helldivers 1 and win the war in a months time, id consider that a power fantasy

sure you gotta face some challenge, but you gotta be able to defeat tha challenge and have fun doing so

[plucky lion]

perhaps the message is exactly that. you will sacrifice billions of lives for the sake of conquering the galaxy just to achieve nothing but your own ruin

[tawny mirage]

from everything i see, Helldivers 2 is not that

then why even pretend with the facade of the major orders?

[plucky lion]

major orders are useful for getting everyone's attention focused on a certain planet, and give us all something to cheer or scream when we win/lose

[tawny mirage]

but what happens when we win when they didnt want us to?

operation swift disassembly

[plucky lion]

if they dont want us to, we won't

all they have to do is make impossible MO's and we stop

[tawny mirage]

thing is that everything is pointing in that direction

[sacred tapir]

funny

i like it

[tawny mirage]

but yet we rack up to a thousand kills with 15 men

there is a disconnect

like lore wise if we took those numbers and put em in an alternate universe like halo, humanity would have invaded the covenant like the covenant did to us in the true halo universe

[plucky lion]

well it would be reasonable to expect automatons and bugs to be able to replace losses very quickly

illuminate, though, who the fuck knows?

[sacred tapir]

i mean if you think about it, they should be extinct by now

considering theyre meant to be dwindling in numbers

yet we kill like 300 overseers PER MISSION

or whatever

so clearly thats a fucking lie

idc if they reproduce or not, still bs

[slim coral]

@sacred tapir hear me out

[plucky lion]

where did u hear they are dwindling in numbers?

[sacred tapir]

idk i assumed based on the fact that we pushed them nearly to extinction

literally only 100 years ago

we just slaughtered them for no real reason tbh

[tawny mirage]

i mean at this rate id argue that a squad of helldivers rivals a squad of space marines in terms of effectiveness lmao

[plucky lion]

100 years is a long time. human population increased around 4x in the last 100 years

[slim coral]

A 4 gauge one shot rifle
Primary gun
That penetrate tank armor
But it knocks you back
And deals 1000 damage

Shoot while standing will break your right hand instantly

[plucky lion]

nah nothing above heavy pen for a primary

[sacred tapir]

you and your .950jdj get out

shoo

[tawny mirage]

nah, med pen should be a limit for primary

[sacred tapir]

mfw it has 4 rounds total XD

[sacred tapir]

disagreed

[tawny mirage]

if you want heavy pen you gotta do a strategem

[sacred tapir]

heavy is fine, just needs balance

[sacred tapir]

eruptor is heavy

cry about it i guess

[tawny mirage]

slow as balls

[sacred tapir]

yeah thats how its balanced dickhead

[plucky lion]

and the heavy pen part of the eruptor makes almost no impact on its performance is what is funny

[slim coral]

1000 damage barely scratches any heavy enemies' ass ngl

[red jetty]

having a primary with AP rounds isn't exactly far fetched

[sacred tapir]

it does tho

bile titans have 4500 iirc?

main

head has 1500

[slim coral]

Well have the gun deals 950 damage then

Reflecting the 950 JDJ

Also it breaks your arm so yeh

[plucky lion]

might as well just make a big brother to the AMR and make it a strategem

[red jetty]

I think having a heavy AT rifle would be cool

like one of those Finnish AT rifles on sleds

[plucky lion]

yeah it would be, but it just would not make sense as a primary

[slim coral]

KS23 shotgun for primary

Technically thats the halo M590 already

I just want a shotgun machinegun for strategem man

It should shoot heavy pen

[red jetty]

maybe an auto shotgun with an ammo backpack

[plucky lion]

i want an FRV with a belt-fed shotgun

[slim coral]

Naw

GL

[slim coral]

Ngl

A pickup truck with an anti tank emplacement would be hella funny

[red jetty]

Super Space Technical

[plucky lion]

one that flips over if u shoot it while turning XD

[slim coral]

But tbh

To be able to shoot anti tank cannon then instantly relocate would be nice

[plucky lion]

more than nice, it would be incredibly powerful

the AT emplacement is already amazing when used right, being able to move it would turn bots into a joke with their slow speed

[red jetty]

AT emplacement is cool, but I think a front shield or something would make it better. very open

[plucky lion]

yeah i usually pair it with the bubble shield. very easy to get wrecked by a stray shot

nice bonus is when u drop the bubble shield people often huddle around you for the cover, giving you even more support while ur in gamer chair mode

[slim coral]

Sadly AT emplacement is kinda useless on Oshaune

Because you really cant out turn a bunch of warrior moving toward you in the ground

[plucky lion]

it's perfectly capable of doing good work against roaches and hive lord

but u gotta somehow keep everything away

[slim coral]

Dragon Spit can destroy it instantly

I tend to find HMG emplacement more vilable

Oh yeh

Laser Turret is underrated as hell

[plucky lion]

yeah HMG turret is probably a lot more practical

and idk about laser turret... it's in an awkward place

still need to use it more before i really understand it

all i know is that in defense missions, if you put it on the back line, behind the other turrets a bit, it does great

if its out in front it just blows itself up

[slim coral]

I has like 15 seconds more or so than MG Turret but they deal heavy pen

Its basically the laser cannon but stationary

[graceful compass]

with the caveat that it usually blows itself the fuck up for no good reason

[sacred tapir]

pov: flame turret at release

0 fire resistance on a fire turret, i see no issue

[graceful compass]

i still dont think its great

the best use is somehow getting it on high ground

but since 99% of the time you try to do that your beacon bounces...

[plucky lion]

it def doesnt seem that great solo, but pairs with other turrets really well

[slim coral]

Sword Mech

[red jetty]

I think a sort of...like...CIWS turret would be cool

exclusively targets air units. predictive tracking

or maybe a portable SAM pod

like it gets 4 or so missiles and that's it

but it has AT pen

could be mannable or unmanned

[sacred tapir]

sword mech

but heavy armor or something

and like moar health pool

[slim coral]

Sword mech but they have rocket booster

So they can either jump toward the target to close off distance

And have other hand flamethrower

[sacred tapir]

bro is just describing ronin from titanfall 2

[slim coral]

Titan does fall?

I have never fall a Titan

[sacred tapir]

falling titan, the sequel

[red jetty]

Titan fell

[alpine yacht]

someone unironically trying to convince a newbie that urban legends in the best warbond

[graceful compass]

i mean

that armor passive is that good

[sacred tapir]

and at emplacement

[graceful compass]

yeah

[sacred tapir]

as much as i hate that glorified lawn chair

its good

more often than not i die to my team mate dropping a dropship on my fucking head

like my brother, it already dropped the tank, dont shoot it

fucking apes i swear

[graceful compass]

if only shooting them did anything

[sacred tapir]

i just hate when im chillin, get a tank on my head, its no issue tho, just gonna kill it qui- aand thats a dropship on my head

[potent leaf]

8 helldivers but you can only bring 2 stratagems instead of 4

[slim coral]

Nah

Let them crash the game

With 8 500KG

[alpine yacht]

yes but SS exist

and AT emplacement is useful on one planet rn </3

[graceful compass]

ss?

[alpine yacht]

superstore

you can get siegeready in the superstore and you always get 300sc from a normal warbond

[graceful compass]

heavy armor

[alpine yacht]

so theres no reason to buy UL for the armor passive unless you want it in light

[alpine yacht]

&?

stim spam you absolute weasle

awww look who cant USE FENT

I inject the moment my HP goes down a pixel

[graceful compass]

yeah me too

its just like

[alpine yacht]

I unironically saw someone claim to be a pro player and then say to conserve stims

like bitch if you die before using all your stims you're literally wasting the equivelant of an entire reinforce 🔥

also they said DE sickle and fire res is bad

😭

man they aint even rage baiting they're posting clips

objectively the best weapon in game right now

heavy armor, infinite ammo, technically the best DPS

[slim coral]

I inject myself when I heard my char scream

No matter if they lose health or not

[alpine yacht]

can AR2 melt a factory strider </3

and more DPS than the HMG

full charged DE sickle is heavy pen

[slim coral]

Sickle deals heavy once your cartridge is very hot

And you take like a shit ton of damage

[alpine yacht]

fire res and stim spam

you should be stim spamming anyway 🔥

[slim coral]

I used to spam my friend w stim pistol

While he shoot at a factory strider

[alpine yacht]

objectively the best team matchup is 2 medics 2 DE sickle rushers

and better DPS than a support weapon)

[slim coral]

I would LOVE the Stim Pistol more if they ya kno

Dont give it Eruptor handling

For some fucking reasons

Shooting your friend with stim 3 feet away IS FUCKING MIND NUMBLING

[alpine yacht]

it also just missess sometime

[slim coral]

MA5C is actually mid

[alpine yacht]

it also has no recoil btw

[slim coral]

The aim assist is so weird

I swear idk where the aim assist trying to help me

[alpine yacht]

ur just bad

post clip of you winning a match rn you cant

cuz bad

Ill go to court and make you pay child support

yeah thats why ur paying child support

dumbass

[scarlet edge]

[alpine yacht]

then ill go to ghost court

and get you to pay child support

court for ghosts

yeah you betterthey have lots of good lawyers there

midas speaks like ancient summerian jackass

[graceful compass]

When’s the last time you played?

💀

Nvm

[potent leaf]

the upped pistol sway by a fuck ton a few patches ago

[red jetty]

Pistols do sway quite a bit in the hand. Especially if you're not completely still

[sharp gorge]

Gotta acquire good

[sharp gorge]

Parkinson's

[kindred hatch]

ok but how the actual fuck am I supposed to deal with these new terminids?

[fiery tendon]

https://youtu.be/pD2CXLcTck4?si=3wLBZ_G57klCWUSu

[sharp gorge]

Pray they don't get a hit off, hit in the side
Or carry medium pen all around

[empty zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o-sM1r5mbs

[scarlet edge]

I love the difficulty increase

[plucky lion]

carry a plasma weapon and use its aoe to force them to surface

as for the dragons... well good luck with those lol. the spear, RR, EAT, and epoch are good against them

[graceful compass]

No stock means harder to hold straight

[bleak patrol]

Aren't you American? You should know these things

[sacred tapir]

The fact we can aim this straight is already impressive

You can snipe devastator heads at like 90 meters with a 9mm

With a little skill

That shit is hard

[bleak patrol]

Our bullets are guided by democracy

[rancid ibex]

What next warbond should I get

Already did the first one, Steeled Vets, Cutting Edge, Polar Patriots, Democratic Detonation, Freedom's Flame, Control Group, and Dust Devils and ODST

[plain bough]

Urban Legends

[eager cliff]

Urban Legends

[rancid ibex]

Urban Legends

Hmm I think I should actually get servants instead. I like the funny nuke

[graceful compass]

Servants or democratic detonation

The ultimatum is incredible

Been using it to one shot dragonroaches

[dire igloo]

seekers do heavy pen

might be worth to bring them on bug missions and just chuck a quadjillion of them at the stupid dragons

while they are perma stunned by my harpoon

[graceful compass]

I haven’t really used the seekers much tbh

They seem like they could be excellent in the right hands

Do they one shot overseers?

[potent leaf]

gas

[rancid ibex]

Already got servants

[potent leaf]

gas

My fav warbond is Bugs of SHAW🔥

Parry strat op

hornetsilksongSHAWfireemoji.jpg

Shwarmaband

Need specific country themed warbands

Turkish warband that comes with a cool fez

[rancid ibex]

Man I'm gonna have to farm again

[rancid ibex]

SHAW 🔥

[graceful compass]

Gas warbond is dogshit aside from the gas grenade being pretty good and gas dog being a decent pick on bugs.

Depends on what other warbonds you do or don’t have

[potent leaf]

Yeah but they'l rework the steralyser soon and it'l be good dw (it won't)

[high timber]

surely

[potent leaf]

surely

[high timber]

arrowhead I beg

[potent leaf]

Arrowbeg I head

[high timber]

but yeah the speargun has replaced the steriliser for my gas loadout
gas weapon with long range that can demolish stuff and (kinda) serves as “big enemy” solution

[potent leaf]

it needs to work like the acid gun from hd1

where it clung to surfaces

[high timber]

yeah. lingering effect would be great

running gas dog just kind of makes it obsolete though lol
but the full green meme works great with speargun
I gotta test it out on the bot front…

[potent leaf]

flamer fine

does dmg

lingers

goes through armour

[high timber]

just inconsistent with the status effect application now
if you’re not the host the flamers just kind of fail to set bigger things on fire sometimes, it’s weird

can’t win

[rancid ibex]

I blame Alexus

[high timber]

I blame “bug fixing isn’t a priority” arrowhead

[plain bough]

truly a comment of all time for AH

[eager cliff]

only if u host

its bugged again

classic AH

[sharp gorge]

I love getting my ass gibbed by 0.3 seconds of balefire

[slim coral]

this game's yeh

performance and optimization is horrible

[sacred tapir]

i want it to go through enemies again

like it used to

before they made it not, since it was "OP"

my brother in retardation its a co-op game, you can allow a few little "OP" or "fun" things out

especially if everyone loves it, and it doesnt overshadow other weapons

[slim coral]

how did we get like

pushed back on a lot of planet on bot front

[graceful compass]

That’s why it felt like shit the last time I used it? When did that change

[sacred tapir]

idk

it was a good bit ago

its a lot worse now for that reason

it was a bad addition if you ask me

[graceful compass]

Yeah I mean I haven’t really gone out of my way to use the flamethrower since right before the awful visual change so

[sacred tapir]

no one played it? or something idk

[sacred tapir]

what change?

i havent used it

[graceful compass]

This was a long time ago

[sacred tapir]

eh idc tbh

looks like fire

so meh im indifferent

graphics mean little to me

[bitter blade]

The gas mines are good to

[graceful compass]

Well they changed it back

It was changed and looked like shit then changed back to what it was

[plucky lion]

gas mines are excellent, but they arent part of a warbond

[slim coral]

Gas orbital

[red jetty]

gas orbital would be fantastic if it was like the napalm where it was a big 380 barrage

[slim coral]

They need to add ice weapons

Cryi

Cryo*

[sacred tapir]

added cryo element
spear will now just kill you when you call it in

[graceful compass]

still better than OPS

[red jetty]

it's not great but it's like the first one you unlock

back when little timmy was still hunting Chargers as an entire mission objective

[graceful compass]

well it used to be decent and now its objectively bad

[red jetty]

of course it is. Everything big moves, aside from holes, factories, and ships

and it doesn't have fragmentation

...that would be cool, an artillery strike with super fragmentation that had a really huge blast radius

[graceful compass]

wasnt even really the issue

just got neglected back in the 60 day patch

when damage and health got some changes across the board

so it basically doesnt kill things it should be killing unless its a direct impact

[red jetty]

so the impact damage is a major part of its damage

[slim coral]

I have yet to use walking barrage

[sacred tapir]

thats because 380 does it better

more predictable

overall

[slim coral]

Naw

120

🗿

[sacred tapir]

eh 120 is precise

but not useful

to me

i think 380 is better (i can teamkill easier)

[slim coral]

Tbh I tend to run precision strike and eagle strafe more

[sacred tapir]

same bro

railgun, warp, OPS, strafe

[slim coral]

Idk why I rarely run Railgun

I almost exclusive run GL

[sacred tapir]

i mean railgun needs aiming

GL doesnt

or barely does

[slim coral]

I mean now on Hive World GL is extremely useful

Great horde clean

[sacred tapir]

i know

but i dont play hive world

XD

i play bots

its where railgun has a use

since its mid on illuminate, its bad on bugs and great on bots

only ever slows down on war striders

since they take 2-3 99% charge

shots

[slim coral]

Bot?

3 words

E

A

T

I like railgun for bot too since I run it a lot

But EAT is just too good

[sacred tapir]

EAT is meh imo

i just dont like picking a new one up

every shot

especially when some fuck bucket team mate takes one

and then when you turn to pick up the next

its gone

in my shitstain team mates hands

fuck you random guy, i shouldve shot and kicked you

you never take a mans EAT without asking

[slim coral]

I just like the fact I can ditch out 2 shots extremely fast

And each is shooting a 7 ton truck at enemy

[sacred tapir]

thats the recoiless

the EAT is like a miata catapult

since it has a exaggerated arc

100m, aim like 2 decades above target

[slim coral]

I aim only up a bit for a 300m

So idk

Its pretty easy to do so

[red jetty]

walking barrage is great if you're on the outside of a bot outpost

don't even need to throw it into the base, just let it walk into it

[slim coral]

You know what is greater?

AT place

[sacred tapir]

i dont know the arc

so i just dont bother with it lol

[red jetty]

AT placement came waaaay after 380

and it's also warbond locked

[sacred tapir]

and i dont even have it

i find it boring too

lawn chair of sloth

[red jetty]

it's alright, but against bots its a deathtrap

they'll riddle you full of holes in that chair

tanks, walker lasers, war strider nades, a lot of stuff will outright destroy that emplacement

I honestly greatly enjoy the war striders. I think we needed an indirect firing bot

[sacred tapir]

i dont enjoy them

[red jetty]

the barrage tank kinda counts but that thing's so damn buggy

[sacred tapir]

purely their design

needs medium weakpoint

this isnt my light pen side talking

its just my thoughts

[scarlet edge]

So it's your light pen toughts?

[plucky lion]

war striders = maximum ragdoll = funni bot

[sharp gorge]

Catching a Charger while it's rearing up with an RR headshot makes it do some nice backflips

[warm quest]

I keep hearing that ballistic shield is good in close quarters against bugs. Anyone know if this is true?

[eager cliff]

it tanks from the front yeah

it helps against the burrowing fucks

[high timber]

also tanks when it’s on your back (useful for running away while holding a 2 handed weapon)
though it is smaller that way so a bit less consistent

‘s good

[graceful compass]

Glad we have agreed on a name for them

I still miss when the shield was an armor class higher

It doesn’t feel as durable as it needs to be imo

Or maybe if it had a shorter cooldown

[sacred tapir]

Burrowfucks when i bring a shield:

[sacred tapir]

Its best on devs

Since they aim center mass

Or it seems like it

So it rarely hits legs

And your arms are in front of you, since 2 handed

[graceful compass]

Having to pick between shield and supply pack is the real challenge on these bug missions

[sacred tapir]

I just pick shield

I dont need supplies that often

I run ammo efficient weapons

Talon is the one size fits all

And infinite

Pairs with shield and everything

Btw im on mobile if i type wrong

[graceful compass]

Shield means you can take hits with little worry while supply pack means you can sustain the weapons to kill them while they burrow with more ammo so it’s apples to apples really

Talon is goat

[sacred tapir]

Yeah i can see your point

[graceful compass]

But I really like ultimatum for dragon roaches

[sacred tapir]

I just think that the ability to keep ammo infinitely and only use ammo on big shit is nice

Since the talon solves anything but chargers with ease

And titans and roach

For them, i just bring friends

Or caseoh

[graceful compass]

Talon has done irreparable damage to the sidearm choices lol

[sacred tapir]

Senator is solid on bots

Still

[graceful compass]

True

[sacred tapir]

Since hulks go down in 3

Verdict too

Since its just good

Peacemaker is useless as always

[graceful compass]

And the halo pistol ain’t far off

[sacred tapir]

Redeemer… its just too fast, and too uncontrollable

[graceful compass]

Remember when that was the sidearm meta

[sacred tapir]

That thing is shit because its gimmick doesnt work

[graceful compass]

It needs more ammo imo

It has like 5 total mags

[sacred tapir]

It needs damage, suppressor and a bit more ammo

Well if suppressor worked 5 mags would be fair

[graceful compass]

What the hell a suppressor gonna do

[sacred tapir]

Since it has silence

Allowing stealth

[graceful compass]

[sacred tapir]

Stealth is what it does

Helldivers actually has stealth

[graceful compass]

Very situationally yes

[sacred tapir]

And its not even bad

Its no mgs, or splinter cell

[graceful compass]

Unfortunately if your shit doesn’t insta kill the enemy

[sacred tapir]

But its good

No i can do the whole dif 10 no detection

No issue

Knife is all i got tho

[graceful compass]

Devestators?

[sacred tapir]

Since odst suppressor broken

[sacred tapir]

Yeah

Headshots

Nail them with a good knife, they go down

[graceful compass]

But the knife one taps them right?

[sacred tapir]

I learned the arc

Yes to the head

[graceful compass]

Other suppressed weapons don’t so they insta alert

[sacred tapir]

Its a little wonky

The knife

[graceful compass]

Like the smg and pistol don’t have enough damage

And the suppressors don’t work anyway

[sacred tapir]

That too, but they also dont prevent detection even with a 1 shot

Shot a trooper with smg, still alerted

[graceful compass]

Yeah since they are non functional

[sacred tapir]

I think pistol should 1 tap heads, actually work

[graceful compass]

Also hate that they have muzzle flash

[sacred tapir]

And keep the 5 mags

[graceful compass]

Devestators have too much health iirc

Troopers would go down tho

[sacred tapir]

Pistol does too little

[graceful compass]

If we could get like, a counter sniper

[sacred tapir]

Its 100hp i think?

For head

[graceful compass]

With a supressor

[sacred tapir]

I mean theres loads of ammo types in files

[graceful compass]

Give me something like the ww1 commando rifle

[sacred tapir]

So maybe suppressors in future

[graceful compass]

Suppressed bolt action

[sacred tapir]

WWII*

Its when it got used most

[graceful compass]

Yeah

[sacred tapir]

It never really got used tbh

[graceful compass]

Welrod

[sacred tapir]

It was .45 tho

That thing was .32

[graceful compass]

Could be like the same ammo as verdict

Whatever their weird alternative is

[sacred tapir]

No verdict is 14mm

[graceful compass]

13mm?

[sacred tapir]

Lmao

Its a desert eagle basically

[graceful compass]

Well I’m saying the in universe ammo

[sacred tapir]

Even operates the same

[graceful compass]

Since the uh

The truth enforcers smg

Is very UMP coded

[sacred tapir]

The closest to .45 is the defender

[graceful compass]

[sacred tapir]

And truth enforcers was also 14mm

[graceful compass]

True

[sacred tapir]

So yeah

[graceful compass]

Either way I’d love a stealth bond with something like that

[sacred tapir]

But i like the idea

[graceful compass]

Cloaking device backpack, commando rifle, welrod, and maybe a suppressed shotgun stratagem weapon

[sacred tapir]

The reason .45 was used in commando was subsonic

And also availability

Thats why i believe verdict ammo would be suboptimal

[sharp gorge]

Far as I can tell
All the guns in Helldivers 2 are chambered in God's caliber

7.62x39

[sacred tapir]

Its gonna be loud, hard to suppress, and very supersonic

What gun would that be?

[sharp gorge]

[sacred tapir]

I mean nothing is standard

Even the dcs is 9x70

Whatever that reason is

[graceful compass]

Tell me suppressed heavy pen slug shotgun stratagem weapon wouldn’t be peak

[sacred tapir]

It would be, just op

12 rounds

6 round tube

Shitass economy

But high power

[sharp gorge]

Heavy Bolter stratagem

[sacred tapir]

Yeha i like that dry

[sharp gorge]

Breaks arms upon use

[sacred tapir]

Automatic dominator

Then its reasonable

But effective

Wait a sec

Does it gain rate of fire over time?

Like shoot faster as you hold down the trigger?

Would be hilarious

[graceful compass]

Bro doesn’t even consider the idea

[sacred tapir]

I literally did

Did i not?

Said shitty economy but big power

12 total ammo, but its a power house

Like i mean 1-2 shot hulk eye

[graceful compass]

I mean like

The AMR already exists

The niche is that this is a suppressed weapon and a shotgun

Maybe pump?

Heavy pen but enough damage to one tap hulk eye for stealth

Low ammo but not 12 ammo low

5/20?

AMR has like 7 mags right?

Forget the total ammo

[bleak patrol]

So I just did a bit of research and noticed that up to some point in time weapons in HD2 used "actual" calibers like for example 5.5x50mm for Liberator rifles and 9x70mm for Diligence, but after some time they just said "fuck it" and now they use generic ammo names like "Rhino" for the Reprimand, so they might as well all use 7.62x39

[sharp gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1015573221942251642.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=Chad

Ping me, pussy
Or post art rn

[bleak patrol]

I'm not gonna ping you for pointless bullshit

[sharp gorge]

The rest of the server does, how are you special

[bleak patrol]

I'm retarded

[sharp gorge]

Fair enough, noted, filed

[bleak patrol]

I will post art when it's ready

[sharp gorge]

[bleak patrol]

I already started working on it

[eager cliff]

@sharp gorge

[sharp gorge]

Yes, kitten? @eager cliff

[eager cliff]

i am not sorry for the ping

[sharp gorge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1037533258403041401/1175141947330015293/storch_kolibri_dialog.gif

[graceful compass]

Stellaris mentioned (I know nothing about it)

[slim coral]

Its Signalis

Tbh I never understand whats going on

[sharp gorge]

Yah sure

Also I've been dubbed a mine psycho by a random

[graceful compass]

Fuck I got the wrong name

What the hell is stellaris

[sharp gorge]

4X space game about conquering a galaxy in some way shape or form

[frank cove]

sesbian lex

[sharp gorge]

You either pick a species or make your own, pick out the game length, galaxy size, and number of arms or shape, then get on with it

[sharp gorge]

It's actually quite good, but there's a fuckton of DLCs, as per usual for 4X strats games today
And truck sims
And racing sims

So consult some forums maybe on what DLCs are worth the discounted price

[graceful compass]

We love dlc

Payday2 money printing strategy

[high timber]

or yknow

steal them for free

[eager cliff]

or dont play that ass

[high timber]

paradox doesn’t deserve the infinite dlc money glitch
but stellaris is pretty fun

[graceful compass]

I wasn’t really planning on it

[slim coral]

Thats just Sim 4

[rancid ibex]

Nice, just when I was going to max out the Coyote, 2 things happened in the last fucking mission

1. The last lock on the ICBM silo did not fucking appear and it was just missing. Not even the host can fix it nor the guy who was responsible for disengaging it
2. The Pelican kept glitching underground at extract and I was the only lucky one to extract. Everyone else died

[graceful compass]

Anyone familiar with compactGUI

Or freaky/compactor

[eager cliff]

[tall urchin]

When all else fails, dive again

[slim coral]

And again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again. And Again

[sacred tapir]

what?

yappin about nothin

[graceful compass]

silence retard

google

[pale hollow]

Their stated gains are inflated due to 'insert technical jargon', therefore it often has very limited real effect.

[graceful compass]

i saw a post about it in the helldivers subreddit and then did a little bit of looking into it as did a friend

i saw a lot of people talking positively about but, i dont have the knowledge

[pale hollow]

For Helldivers it might provide better results than average, it is a very poorly optimised game after all.
One thing to note though, is that you should NOT do it unless you have CPU capacity to spare when running the game AND have the files on a fast SSD

[graceful compass]

i havent bothered to try it yet but my friend on a significantly worse pc than me did and said he hadnt noticed any negative effects

[pale hollow]

Oh, and it'll probably fuck up the update installation even more than it already is

[graceful compass]

for hd2 specifically

[pale hollow]

Well, give it a go then. Just remember that you still need the free storage space (equivalent to full size + some) every time the game has a large update

[graceful compass]

i try to have 200gb free at all times for that reason

i love storage woes

its more for my friends sake than me but like

if it chops as much off the pc file size (like 40gb) for hd2 alone? why not

i am curious about it being "fake" storage space so to speak

[pale hollow]

Please note that what is shows as storage saved, might not be quite real due to how the compression stays 'invisible' to the system + windows filesystem shenanigans

You can also save storage space by using the built in compression system in Windows, that the program actually uses

[graceful compass]

i was under the assumtion that it was a hidden feature or something of the sort that these applications were using, but im not familiar with how to access that

[graceful compass]

holy shit

hm

[pale hollow]

This is one of the built in systems, not as powerful as the comandline stuff (what the program uses) but can give an idea of what is possible. Do note that it is ass and INSANENLY FUCKING slow when compressing and when reverting to uncompressed because you regret your life choices.

[graceful compass]

ahhh

good to know

[pale hollow]

Basically, set it running before you go cook dinner, eat dinner, visit the restroom, clean the dishes, etc.

or if slow CPU and/or storage, overnight

But if you have slow CPU/storage, then you simply should not do it anyway

[graceful compass]

[sacred tapir]

got nothin

literally didnt tell me shit

im not looking past the 3 seconds i spent glancing at it

[graceful compass]

obvious ragebait or attention span of a pea, call it

[sacred tapir]

both

now just explain

[graceful compass]

download extra storage

or

program that does compression magic to make some games smaller

dropped hd2 like 40gbs for me

[sacred tapir]

ok then

does it affect anything?

[graceful compass]

more often that not, no

[sacred tapir]

ok

[grizzled dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vYpSEKRIc9c @eager cliff

[sharp gorge]

Idunwanna

[loud bison]

taking it would count as a won defense for Acamar IV

but I think people are trying to finish up the defense of Crimsica

[eager cliff]

i usually leave the game or just insta kick the moment i see a guy pick only mines

that is just troll strat no thanks

[plain bough]

4 different mines everywhere

[sharp gorge]

Stop walking into them

[eager cliff]

[sharp gorge]

TBH I only take em on Defense

[eager cliff]

i dont play defense

anymore

boring shiut

[graceful compass]

Boring and no samples sos what’s the point

[scarlet edge]

Fun

[empty zealot]

medals

[rancid ibex]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1ne0xkp/democratic_art_ive_made/

[dire igloo]

the only other thing I would consider besides the top 4 is quick extract and more reinforcements

[sharp gorge]

[slim coral]

The truth enforcer armor imo is drippiest

Only downside is that its bonus is kinda meh

[grizzled dagger]

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[red jetty]

HD2 VR game would go astronomical

[slim coral]

I wondered if dead helldiver should drop their remaining stims so live helldivers can pick them up

[slim coral]

Eagle Strafe: