🤖🐛🦑helldivers

[dire igloo]

theyre just condenced in the secondary objective areas and then some common outsides

and you just run into 1 or 2 spots in the caves randomly that have samples with dead people around them

thats it

[mossy tapir]

In hindsight, this is a great patch. I’m using stratagems and armor wouldn’t otherwise use

I’m using fire res armor to deal with the fire from the dragon

People already complaining that helldivers was piss easy even at diff 10

[loud bison]

missile silo keeps getting targeted like a sentry
can't just call it in and have it

[eager cliff]

yeah u have to use it

[dire igloo]

I love it mannnn

actually why nerf that fucking thing

its so annoying

devs dont want fun in the game

from 2 minute cooldown to 3 and a half minutes

[graceful compass]

what are you talking about

[dire igloo]

the missile silo

[eager cliff]

it was higher than 3

[dire igloo]

it had a shorter cooldown

[eager cliff]

it got buffed to 3

no

[dire igloo]

the fuck

[eager cliff]

it had 210 now it has 180

[dire igloo]

if only it was 2 minute cooldown

[graceful compass]

that was a patch 30 MINUTES AFTER THE UPDATE TOO

so

[eager cliff]

big missile has less durable damage than the orbital smoke / gas projectile

[dire igloo]

cant even say

buff missile silo

because the other 3 things in the warbond

are just really fucking good

[graceful compass]

the cluster nade is dogshit

but yeah

the other three things that matter are good

[dire igloo]

ye but the gun, dnapalm and speargun

are just rlly fucking good

imo speargun on the current planet is S tier

it staggers for so long

you can just pair it with a refil pack and have fire grenades

and just kill shit

now I dont have fire grenades so I cant do it

[eager cliff]

it also kills bug holes

[dire igloo]

but my friend does so he just runs around the map

stuns shit

drops fire grenade

and walks away

[slim coral]

How much damage does eagle strike strafe does if all shots landed

Wondered if I can Hive Lord w it

[mossy tapir]

Lads, I don’t think we’ll win this MO

[loud bison]

https://fxtwitter.com/Helldivers_NOW/status/1964363460457705563

[plain bough]

350 damage unarmored, 200 damage durable
wiki says its got 100 ammo per run so that should be around 20K damage per run if it all hit

people videos show the armor plates on the hive lord can pop as well

you should also bring gatling barrages since it stands still in one spot

[slim coral]

I still dont get whats the durable damage

Is it the damage of your weapon if you shot an armored target?

Or its like the damage to compare with armor value like Tarkov Bullet vs Tarkov Armor tier

[potent leaf]

I think its the damage you physically do to body parts to blow them off

[dire igloo]

you can live the hive lord launching you into the air if you are in a mech

just happened to my teammate

you also go like 80 times farther

so it took him a whole minute to land

[slim coral]

Is that thing having intercourse with a Hellbomb?

[eager cliff]

idk ask Samantha its her post

[slim coral]

Oh hell no

Samantha is cooking w this one

We are doomed

So called free thinking society

[light nymph]

very nice

[slim coral]

https://youtube.com/shorts/cevW5zLQVas?si=pUROAb6Vzvk6zpe1

@eager cliff

[potent leaf]

you're welcome citizens

thanks iedy you a real one

I'm a woman of the people of super earth

salute gif

[potent leaf]

no it's tired and hellbombs are very warm and comfortable

like sleeping with urainium rods

[slim coral]

Uh

I guess that is normal

I prefer sleeping next to an opened plutonium core separated by a screwdriver

[red jetty]

so what's the problem with the demon core exactly

if it falls and seals itself, wouldn't that make it safe

[sacred tapir]

no lol

that completes it

which is what makes it do that bad thing

basically, if it closes, it goes supercritical

and that makes big radiation

which makes big cancer

which makes big death

you just become a much more boring deadpool

since deadpool is funny

youre not

[rancid ibex]

Wort

Today I will

Dive

[rancid ibex]

@sharp gorge what was the silly thing u mentioned yesterday

[sacred tapir]

pretty sure he sleepy

also wym silly

[rancid ibex]

Idk we played together yesterday and he said he'd show me something silly later

[sacred tapir]

oh ok

[sharp gorge]

A lil silly

Along with the floating bullet

Nah I'm good

[rancid ibex]

Ohh lmao

Goofy bug

[shy schooner]

Bruh

[sacred tapir]

i forgot how ugly the senator sights are

who puts a goofy ass sight like that on a revolver

like bro, just slap a normal iron on there

[sharp gorge]

Looks good to me

[slim coral]

Starfield dev

They had a gun with the similar sight

[sacred tapir]

I find them a bitch to aim with

Too obstructive

[sharp gorge]

[sacred tapir]

Maybe

But they just suck

I cant stand them, its the weird 2 boxes thing that gets me

It just adds more things in the way of my peripherals

[sharp gorge]

Honestly, to each their own, I'm fine sniping with em

[sacred tapir]

I just slapped a mod on them to make it some simple irons

I like them more

Just makes things cleaner and it makes the silhouette nicer for the gun

[slim coral]

Man

Idk what I am doing in Oshuane anymore

Spawn in die

Spawn in die

Spawn in die

And Spawn in

And Die

[dire igloo]

Unlocked the speargun last night

Forgot if I said that already

But I jort the spear gun

[rancid ibex]

I like how his visor becomes big when he gets surprised

[rancid ibex]

Is anyone else getting players who use supply packs and those seeker grenades? I swear they don't run out but somehow they're using a new exploit where the supply pack doesn't run out of supplies

[dire igloo]

time to get to business

KILL BUGS WITH SPEARGUN

[plucky lion]

only 15 medals till i unlock spear

[dire igloo]

700 bugs murdered

by me alone

[plucky lion]

mmm i'm loving how the spear stops meatballs in their tracks

[rancid ibex]

Speargun is so satisfying to use against bugs

[slim coral]

Ig I found out the use of the Pacifier

It can stops the stalkers

Those bitch resists so much staggering force

[slim coral]

Man

Why is the Coyote such dog shit, doesn't deal enough damage, can't even kill fast enough to even warrant its usage

(This is a psyops so AH wont nerf it

[plucky lion]

the irony of it all is that even tho it outshines all the other ARs easily, i still feel like it just isnt enough for d10 on the MO planet. that shit is just insane

they gibe nice gun and then put us in hell. thanks arrowhed

[tawny mirage]

D10 is doable

[slim coral]

They are gonna nerf it soon

[tawny mirage]

it just sucks

[slim coral]

Not with the pretext of maintaining all the sample collected

[tawny mirage]

yeah, no

that shit is impossible

[slim coral]

And ya kno thats the Major Order

[tawny mirage]

300,000,000 commons is stupid

there is no major incentive to collect them on higher difficulties

[slim coral]

Because its impossible to liberate Oshuane

[tawny mirage]

consider that most players (on pc) already have maxxed ships

[slim coral]

I mean game lore wise we are exploring the Unknown

And collecting sample to research the gloom

[tawny mirage]

it just slips from the mind when you are busy fighting hordes of bugs

[slim coral]

Why 300 mil? Thats super earth to kno

But I think the update is meant for us to lose the MO

[tawny mirage]

easy, AH wants us to fail

and so they give us an impossible task

[slim coral]

It just slips from mind that survival is the priority to even be able to collect them

[slim coral]

Lmao

The truck

[plucky lion]

i dont think so. the way they are constantly messing with MO goals leads me to believe they want us to struggle and just barely complete objectives, which is a challenge because they have to predict the future and nobody does that very well

[slim coral]

I meam tbh

The MO is failing

We have like 1 or 2 days left and we barely reach 50%

[tawny mirage]

we have what

1/2 on a week's time?

[plucky lion]

im thinking about past MOs when i say this

[slim coral]

They gave us 7 days to collect I think

[plucky lion]

this MO may have just been an unusually big miscalculation on their part lol

[slim coral]

And as of yesterday, the common is barely 49%

[slim coral]

Say that to the Leviathan hunt

That shit was mind numbling

2 million Leviathan?

[plucky lion]

yeah they nerfed the required number what 3 or 4 times?

[slim coral]

From 2 mil to 200000

[plucky lion]

that was when they finally realized hardly anybody likes fighting leviathans

[slim coral]

You know what is scripted?

The fucking truck

That mission the moment you go more than 8

Its impossible to do

But tbh

We are in their motherland

What are we even expecting

[plucky lion]

i actually completed it on d10 today and it was epic because i lost my last life just miliseconds after the final truck completed. it was quite a rush

[slim coral]

The hivelord should not spawn in truck mission I swear

On D10 it looks like it always guaranteeing a spawn

I wish they gave us like 300 rounds of truck gun rather than merely 100

[plucky lion]

hivelord was bad, but most of the frustration came from air units

there were a SHITLOAD of shriekers and multiple roaches

[graceful compass]

even 500 rounds in the truck wouldnt be enough

[slim coral]

The dragon is horrid in term it needs anti tank to kill

The moment you bring anti tank you cant bring horde thinner

[graceful compass]

it should be a double autocannon that shoots the AT version like the sentry imo

[plucky lion]

they bait us into thinking shooting the wings is worth doing because they lack armor and you can see them get damaged, but then 1000 rounds later when it has nowhere near enough wing surface left to keep flying and it is nowhere near dead you realize how much bullshit you fell for

[slim coral]

In this mission if you dont bring fire resistant armor its a guarantee death it seems

So much so for diversive gameplay style

[eager cliff]

dragon spits both acid and fire

so the killzone armor or dust devil is good

[slim coral]

Acid deals less damage so its negligible

[plucky lion]

killzone armor has been doing great for me

[slim coral]

But fire kills you so fast

[plucky lion]

i can survive both hive lord and roach attacks as a light armor

[slim coral]

One thing I hate is that there are so many of them and its virtually impossible to avoid damage

And every damage now is guarantee broken body

Or injury

[plucky lion]

do the burrowers have a guaranteed limb break on hit?

[slim coral]

Yes

[plucky lion]

it sure seems like it...

[slim coral]

100%

I dont mind 2 broken arms

But its always guarantee a FUCKING BROKEN LEG

[plucky lion]

the ODST armor would be pretty badass right now if i didnt need acid and fire resistance so badly

[slim coral]

Also

Nobody talked about how the spawn in kinda stupid?

Like they drop pod that lock our control

And sometimes we land like on the cave entrance

[plucky lion]

yeah drop pods in cave areas need some fixing

[slim coral]

Also for the nursery nuke it drops the drill on the cave

[plucky lion]

i have ended up on the roof a couple times already and see it happen to teammates

[slim coral]

Like bruh

One thing I also hate is that

THE STRATEGEM BALL BOUNCED SO MUCH IN THE ONLY OPEN AREA OF THE CAVE

WHY IS THIS

[plucky lion]

for teh lulz

'lol ball go bounce, get wrecked kid'

[slim coral]

Shit fuck me man I need a resupply and that shit bounces around for a whole fucking minute

Also

Most of guns are light armor so

Without med armor? Tough shit

You just made the mission from Damn this is bullshit to Damn this is impossibly bullshit

[plucky lion]

people in steam discussion kept complaining game is too ez

they got what they wanted!

[slim coral]

Omg

They didnt just discover E710 in new planet

They discovered

711

Man

When can they add extended mags to Warbond guns

[sharp gorge]

They gon open up a 7-11 on Oshaune

[red jetty]

Them roller taquitos hit different when you're sheltering from a roachdragon

[slim coral]

bro

Pelican one actuaslly kill a hive lord

[heady yew]

https://medal.tv/de/games/helldivers-2/clips/l2gRDroMXPNBpdNGT?invite=cr-MSxsZzAsMTg1ODg4OTc2&v=20

[slim coral]

hell

fuck bug front

[mossy tapir]

So we gonna fail this major order?

I’ve been just playing 5-6 difficulty for this one

Never been a big fan of bug front

[potent leaf]

SHAW 🔥

[slim coral]

Pluh 🔥

[rancid ibex]

ADINO 🪡

[eager cliff]

It was obvious since day 2

We barely had 30% by 2 days left

[mossy tapir]

How’s the AK on the bot front?

Oh shit, I just realize that the Xbox divers gonna experience their first major loss

[potent leaf]

real fucking good

[slim coral]

Even better on Illuminate

[mossy tapir]

do you guys use light armor or medium armor?

[sharp gorge]

Heavy, Democracy Protects

(I WILL die to getting ragdolled against a pebble)

[eager cliff]

[sharp gorge]

Sounds like the lore is "Oshaune is a major landmark to liberate but we've got skill issue"

[bleak patrol]

Heavy armor

[slim coral]

I could have sworn I used to see Bile Titan spawning on Oshaune

They don't anymore?

[dire igloo]

They spawn

Its just not every mission

[eager cliff]

they spawned before they changed the dragon spawns

now you get dragons instead of biles for some reason and red chargers

[mossy tapir]

do you feel like there's an overall difference from light to heavy?

other than speed

[bleak patrol]

I wouldn't be using heavy if I didn't feel the difference

[graceful compass]

ive been leaning toward medium off my normal light armor lately

i just hate the stamina on heavy armor

[bleak patrol]

At least in scenarios where you're being shot at (bots, squids) you get to take more hits before using a stim / dying

[graceful compass]

yeah sometimes its nice, i like the fortifed heavy armors on bots

[bleak patrol]

Also heavy explosive resistant armor reduces explosive damage so much that you can get hit by an entire salvo of devastator rockets and still be almost full health

...before you hit a rock from knockback

[graceful compass]

spine turned to mush

[bleak patrol]

Which WILL deal more damage than the rockets

[graceful compass]

impact damage is such a fickle thing

you either drop from 40 meters and take a quarter of your health

or you get knocked back into a rock and just die

[bleak patrol]

Yeag

I will however say that heavy armor is mostly impractical on bugs where you do need to move a lot so that's where I take medium instead

[graceful compass]

what do you think of the machete

[bleak patrol]

Didn't get to test it

I think it's just a reskinned axe

[graceful compass]

no its not

its wayyy slower

wiki says 170 dmg

[bleak patrol]

So it is different

Good to know

[graceful compass]

80 durable

[bleak patrol]

I wouldn't be using it in current situation anyways since melee (ironically) sucks against bugs

[graceful compass]

bugs just fucking nuke you

it being so slow makes me not really want to try it on voteless

but

[bleak patrol]

There are only 2 melee weapons that kinda work on bugs and it's the lance and the flag, but we can ignore the flag cause what sane individual brings it instead of literally anything else

And they kinda work cause they outrange the bugs

But it's still a silly pick and any pistol is better

[mossy tapir]

Can’t wait to go back to the bot front…

I rather deal with the war strider than whatever the fuck is going on with the bugs

[sharp gorge]

A war strider can be one-tapped though

[eager cliff]

in the balls

[slim coral]

Tbh

I have more fun running bot 10 than whatever this Bug thing

[mossy tapir]

Really? I’ve usually been shooting at the hips

2 commando shots and it’s usually donzo

[sharp gorge]

Those are one-shottable yeah

[slim coral]

1 EAT to the joint

Idk about you guys but I love EAT for bots

[slim coral]

I want a Flechette Breaker

[sacred tapir]

he gets it

breaker slugger

[sharp gorge]

Gentlemen and mentlegen
Solo Super Helldive
(Hellbomb got exploded 3-4 seconds after I started running, but it counts)

[sacred tapir]

[sharp gorge]

Maybe full clear next time

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1015573221942251642.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=Chad

[slim coral]

Tbh I dont really care if it deals lesser damage than buckshot variant or shoots slower

I just want to see the armor plate goes bye bye

[eager cliff]

It’s been 431 days (July 4th, 2024) since the last new ship modules dropped

Holy shit thats a big Arrowhead L

what the fuck are they doing

especially now asking us for samples again

[potent leaf]

long nap

maybe they're making us get samples to prep us for a bunch new ship shit

[slim coral]

"W dont transmog because it doesnt make sense since armor appearance reflect the buff stats"

Made new armor let you throw stuff further without the robotic hand like other servo assisted

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Kinda wish they made entering the gloom world a 8-helldiver raid

[eager cliff]

but Sam , i've had max samples for months

they did it most likely to incetive the xbox people getting some

but its liek reduntant

431 days thats over a year holyy

is it really that difficult to make some fucking upgrades lol

[plucky lion]

they really cant just pump out upgrades or it will mess with the game balance

[eager cliff]

431 days im not taking any excuses , the gloom expedition if anything should have been the perfect moment

[plucky lion]

thats my poiny

[eager cliff]

i was expceting destroyer upgrades during Super Earth Defense

you know like , Helldivers recieved prototype tech to go all in agains tthe illuminate

[plucky lion]

yall like to shit on them but they do a decent job

[eager cliff]

ehhh idk the balancing is still a bit questionable at times

the destroyer upgrades also have like very little upgrades on some of them

like the 5% faster rearm on eagles

for liek lvl 4 upgrade

cmon man its whatever

thats not worth it at all but whatever

the fire one

25% more fire damage is good

[plucky lion]

cooldown reduction of course

[eager cliff]

and the cooldowns yeah

[plucky lion]

and reload speed

[eager cliff]

turret ones are good as well, the one for ammo

more ammo for turret

[plucky lion]

when u got all the turrets upgrades they are a lot better

not that turrets do any fuckin thing against burrowed enemies lol

[eager cliff]

yeah maybe they change that

[plucky lion]

i think it should be vulnerable, but have a very small detection radius. so you have to hide it, but if you hide it well it will probably be fine

[sacred tapir]

i got mine recently

glad i left the last turret one for last

since its broken

[plucky lion]

with a huge blast radius

yep

[sacred tapir]

huge

no its not

500kg isnt even huge

[plucky lion]

500kb makes alot of things not really impressive

[sacred tapir]

feels like 20 fucking meters

at best

its closer to 10 though

[plucky lion]

the solo silo is not vulnerable to jammers or anti-air though so it can have its niche

[sacred tapir]

i mean thats true, but cant break jammers

still mid

i just hate how weak 500kg is

ngl

leave the missle alone, just give more demo force

thats all

but the 500 needs more aoe

that is effective

because just 30 meters away and its just impotent

thats shit

[slim coral]

Oh you sweet summer child

They would leave it alone but ya kno

There is a scumbag in the world

[sacred tapir]

[slim coral]

Whose name is Alexus

[sacred tapir]

alexus?

yeah

wait guys, review bomb until arrowhead demotes alexus, foolproof

or just... buff them?

especially the halo ones

since theyre 1500 to even ACCESS

which for how mediocre they are?

[slim coral]

Yeh the Halo's new AR is absolutely outclassed by the Coyote

[sacred tapir]

yeah fuck that

[sacred tapir]

not even that

its outclassed by the ADJUDICATOR

like fucking hell its been the best medium pen AR since the demo dropped

and the suppressors should work (they dont afaik)

exactly

[slim coral]

I wish they added Loudener

[sacred tapir]

make them work, buff the AR and pistol, maybe give 5 more damage to smg or something and its perfect

[slim coral]

You alert in wider radius, but you deal more damage

[sacred tapir]

maybe make smg do more because the knight and stal smg are about the same tbh

[eager cliff]

Coyote outclasses almost every BR so

[sacred tapir]

if anything the shotgun needs heavy pen

or medium

yeah, cant 1 shot devs reliably

[eager cliff]

shotgun with medium pen and 600 would be insane

[slim coral]

I love the Halt but it feels so lackcluster in higher diff

Rn it cant even 1 shot a warrior

[sacred tapir]

i mean it barely 1 shots devs like i said

to the torso i mean

its great for berserkers... thats it

[eager cliff]

yeah i mean light pen guns indeed feel like ass at higher difffs everytime they add new enemies because they keep making them medium

or higher

[slim coral]

Airburst shotgun

[sacred tapir]

this is why shotgun should be medium or something

or they need to do something else

because this shit aint it

[eager cliff]

i insalled the HALO CE Shotgun sound mod and its so good

[slim coral]

Shotgun is yeh kinda useless for higher diff

[sacred tapir]

medium pen warrior is also stupid, just make the hive guards tunnel instead of warriors

imo the rupture warriors suck

they have a fuckass weakpoint or whatever

but its so small

and so unreliable

[slim coral]

Pretty sure if you are game hoster, you cant dodge a Rupture Warrior

[sacred tapir]

it just isnt fun, also the whole "use ur strategems fuckwad" thing

then NOT RELEASE ANY REDS

[slim coral]

Normall as players joining, warrior has a slight delay form which they emerge and attack you

[sacred tapir]

IN LIKE 9 MONTHS?

thanks arrowhead

fuck you

[slim coral]

As a host its insta

[sacred tapir]

[sacred tapir]

i noticed

that was my biggest issue

only warp pack can dodge them

(too bad i cant do that every 0.4 seconds or i die)

[eager cliff]

also fire seems to have no stagger on enemeies as non host

[slim coral]

Also Dragon is an insta damage

There is no way to dodge them

[eager cliff]

i hope one day they will fuckign fix this bullshit host no host crap

[slim coral]

Even warp pack cant dodge them reliably

[sacred tapir]

so these new enemies really suck

gotcha

i only ever host

because im sick of retards kicking me for nothing

or because its not meta loadout

[slim coral]

Also one thing

[sacred tapir]

or whatever the hell else

[slim coral]

Idk if its just me or does HD2 turn your PC into a heater

[sacred tapir]

not for me, it tries

but my cooler offsets enough

to keep it cooler

the max i got was 73, and that was fans on 60%

[plucky lion]

dragon roach will be a great enemy once they polish it up a bit. i like the idea a lot but the implementation need some tweaking

[sacred tapir]

i just put them on 70-75% and its fine at only 64

[slim coral]

You know what needs a nerf?

The fucking Spewer

[sacred tapir]

the ground spewer?

yeah

[slim coral]

Usually they are a push over but jesus fuck the rupture

Is abhorrent

[sacred tapir]

bubble shield is the only save

thats it

otherwise cooked

[sacred tapir]

usually i only notice them when they artillery my ass then i just go shoot them

[slim coral]

Not only they shoot artillery but they do it rapidly until you come closer to them or shoot them

[sacred tapir]

then they just dig

and leave

pop up, shoot you

piss off

repeat

[slim coral]

They are a fucking BITCH to fight

[eager cliff]

Oh yeah my PC runs hot on hd 2 , hotter than kcd 2

[bleak patrol]

Failed to extract

[slim coral]

Not only that if you eat 2 spit you are instantly die if your armor is under 150 value

[sacred tapir]

i mean ive just taken to casting fireball on them with impact grenades

pop out, eat impact

usually works well

[slim coral]

Tbh I would run GL just to fight those fucks or Eruptor

[sacred tapir]

thats when i play rupture (literally never)

[sacred tapir]

EAT them

[slim coral]

But itd leave me w lack of Anti Armor option

[sacred tapir]

just EAT them

you get them so often you prolly could

[slim coral]

EAT is so outplayed by other options in hive world

[sacred tapir]

maybe not on dif 8-10

but anything else you might just be able to

[sacred tapir]

i know

[slim coral]

I usually love dropping them after like 30 seconds

[sacred tapir]

i just used GL and thermies

[slim coral]

Also

Why is the directional shield

[sacred tapir]

worked like a charm (except those fucking warriors)

[slim coral]

That thing is ass

[sacred tapir]

so shit?

no idea

[slim coral]

There is no reason to use it over the ballistic

[sacred tapir]

doesnt block stagger, doesnt allow primaries (it should tbh)

[sharp gorge]

Yeah that's what happens when you get exploded
That's what I wrote

[sacred tapir]

doesnt do shit

[graceful compass]

[bleak patrol]

Just explode yourself into orbit, dummy

[slim coral]

The moment you stopped aiming, it disable the shield

[sharp gorge]

Ah but you see, Democracy Protects didn't proc

[sacred tapir]

i know

[bleak patrol]

Aw

[slim coral]

Ballistic pack protect your left flank

[bleak patrol]

[sacred tapir]

but thats not even the issue imo

its that it just does NOTHING

for the most part

even when active

[sharp gorge]

And if it did proc
I'd probably die by impact by hitting the Super Destroyer

[sacred tapir]

block 5 rounds, dies, you die

[sharp gorge]

[slim coral]

Ig the appealing point was the fact it regen shield, so on the paper you can use it indefinitely but the thing is

[bleak patrol]

[slim coral]

Ballistic Shield Pack is fucking tanky

[sacred tapir]

you cant

[sacred tapir]

only breaks after certain things

and theyre big things

rockets can break it, cannon turrets

[slim coral]

I have yet to have to call in new ballistic shield unless I eat 4 shots from a cannon

[sacred tapir]

uhh

melee

after a while

but regular dev/trooper rounds? nothing

infinite almost afaik

but if directional shield were to allow primary weapons at the cost of less overall protection, that would be ok

that would have a purpose

[slim coral]

Yeh

Cant see a reason to use it over normal ballistic

[sacred tapir]

or if it had some other gimmick

that set it aside at LEAST

but its useless whatever

[slim coral]

Ig the only "way" i found it useful is that if I run w friend and w good communication

[sacred tapir]

even then, its meh

[slim coral]

Id have 2 friend side by side to me and shoot while behind my shield

Since the shield is wide

But its very situational

Also Arrowhead

Please fix the vehicle handling

[sacred tapir]

its not only situational, but downright useless overall

[slim coral]

I thought Cyberpunk car handling was bad but holy fuck

[sacred tapir]

since like... they could just use cover or their own shield

sure they can fire anything not just secondaries

[slim coral]

The scout car in this game has wheel made out of ice or something

[sacred tapir]

but still whatever

[slim coral]

Shit skids everywhere

[sacred tapir]

i know

handling is ass for some unknown reason

[slim coral]

Itd a scout car, it meant to go fast

Having to stop every 5 seconds so you dont slam into a wall is more tedious than just walk

[sacred tapir]

it does, just handles like ass

i know, i think makfar was decent at the car

but thats because he actually cared

[slim coral]

Honestly just warp pack

I love warp pack quasar combo

Shit is fun

[sacred tapir]

yeah, except caseoh cannon

not a huge fan of that charge up

its alright, i use it time to time

its just not my personal favorite

[slim coral]

I dont know the Epoch

It feels weird

[sacred tapir]

i use railgun with it

[sacred tapir]

you mean the "Punisher Plasma Deluxe™ "?

[slim coral]

To reach the maximum damage, you have like a milisecond before you spontaneously combusted

[slim coral]

Yeh

[sacred tapir]

because its radius is the punisher plasma

itd be fun if its radius was 3 or 4x bigger

and did like 1.2x damage

of its current

[slim coral]

Cant destroy door for some reasons

[sacred tapir]

and that it was AT 1

[sacred tapir]

that too

[slim coral]

It can punch through tank armor

But not door

[sacred tapir]

needs moar demo

[slim coral]

Like huh?

[sacred tapir]

just heavy actually

which is lame

should be AT 1

like i said

and it should have demo big enough for doors

just pisses me off

[slim coral]

Tbh I would always take EAT over Epoch everyday

EAT my beloved

[sacred tapir]

i would take epoch if it did decent damage

like if it was a quasar but better/no cooldown

[slim coral]

Can it 1 shot hulk btw

[sacred tapir]

no idea

never bothered

shits ass

[slim coral]

I wish they made the variable deals medium pen with volley

And heavy with total

[sacred tapir]

or medium with total

since it fires the equivalent of fucking 9mm

[slim coral]

It was fun to use but with the rupture warrior

Shit is useless

[sacred tapir]

its the SEAF 9mm thing kinda

not sure what it is

but its what the peacemaker pistol shoots

[slim coral]

Shrug

Maybe 45

[sacred tapir]

no its more like 9mm

besides .45 would have even less pen

[slim coral]

I thought the peacemaker shoot 45

[sacred tapir]

[sacred tapir]

not the one ingame

the little dinky pistol

[slim coral]

No I know

I thought it shoots 45

[sacred tapir]

the irl one shoots .45 colt

but that one is 9mm

9x20

its 9x20

same thing literally

oh sorry 1mm longer

a 108 grain bullet

320 m/s

yeah its a weakling

funky ass 9mm

[slim coral]

1 inch more and it'd deal medium pen

Ya kno since Russian 9x21mm is made to defeat armor

[sacred tapir]

inch???

[slim coral]

Ask iedy

He loves it in Tarkov

[sacred tapir]

bro wants 9x45

[slim coral]

Idk what to call it

[sacred tapir]

[slim coral]

So shrug

[sacred tapir]

millimeter mate

mm

[slim coral]

Like 9x20 to 9x21

[sacred tapir]

because 9x45 would be hilarious in a pistol

[slim coral]

Idk whats the tail number is called

[sacred tapir]

you do know 9x19mm is millimeters

[slim coral]

Tbh thatd be a rifle pistol already lmao

Sincr 9x39mm rifle

[sacred tapir]

everything about the X by X naming convention is mm

nothing in that style is inches

inches would be stuff like .223

[slim coral]

[sacred tapir]

so basically, if you see a single number describing a bullet

its in imperial/inches

if you see 2 numbers

with an x between

its metric

all bullets have metric and imperial measurements though

[slim coral]

I kinda wonder what does Reprimand shoots

From what I am speculating its shooting like straight up 50AE

[sacred tapir]

its what the verdict shoots

[slim coral]

14mm?

Thats huge

[sacred tapir]

no its 12mm

both are

technically

although it used to be 14mm

[slim coral]

Verdict is 14mm

[sacred tapir]

it was changed in an update, but still says 14mm

[sacred tapir]

but the actual projectile is 12mm

its fucking weird

dw about it

its some AH nonsense

they fucked something up along the way

but its fine since the gun still does the shoot and it works the same way

[slim coral]

AH GIVE ME A 35 ROUND REPRIMAND MAGAZINE AND MY LIFE WILL BE YOURS

[sacred tapir]

i just want more magazine options

this being short, normal being 35, and drum

with bad ergo, but 50 rounds

or 60 idk

[slim coral]

Ngl

I want a firearm expert armor bonus that let you reload faster and retain mags if not empty

[slim coral]

40 round drum

[sacred tapir]

nah if normal is 35, why bother with a drum at 40

45 at least

maybe 50

[slim coral]

Ask Bethesda

They have 32 round drum mag

[sacred tapir]

bro.

[slim coral]

[sacred tapir]

its bethesda

NO ONE LIKES THEM

at least not their firearms

fuckin idiots couldnt design something appealing to save their lives

[slim coral]

Ngl

I wish they added a 1911 in Helldiver to pair w the Constitution

[sacred tapir]

and if it isnt pretty, make it at least WORK?

[sacred tapir]

also buff const

idc its ceremonial

its clearly based on the springfield, making it .30-06

if i guess

(also the bullets are big)

[slim coral]

It is 30 06

[sacred tapir]

so thats a big ass round

[slim coral]

Well yeh but the Deadeye shoots bigger round than it so

[sacred tapir]

that would certainly fuck up anything infantry sized

[slim coral]

Kinda make sense

But ig what u mean

[sacred tapir]

i know that, but at the same time, its .45-70 vs .30-06

one of those is better

.30-06 is overall better at penetrating armor

and its also better at range

and its also got far more velocity

it is thinner though, so the projectile is bigger ingame too

[slim coral]

Ig one thing I dont like is (maybe I am wrong) I havent seen you be able to shoot 2 enemies or multiple at once w non exploding bullet

Or non tesla projectile

[sacred tapir]

wym?

like overpen?

[slim coral]

Like the eruptor I would expect it to go through multiple enemies before exploding on hard impact

[sacred tapir]

oh no that happens

it does

just not on all guns/enemies

some absorb more than others

for instance, voteless

you can punch holes in 2-3 with reprimand

just wont do much damage

[graceful compass]

harpoon goes through lots of things

[sacred tapir]

it does? neat

anyways, yeah no its pretty interesting

[slim coral]

ITS NOT HARPOON ITS A SPEARRRRRRRRR

[graceful compass]

i kinda wish it would embed in meatballs but it doesnt

[sacred tapir]

bots dont get holes through them, almost ever

because theyre good at stopping bullets

but bugs can be shot through

[slim coral]

Wish you can switch different types of spear

[graceful compass]

being metal and whatnot

[sacred tapir]

railgun makes it more obvious

[sacred tapir]

yeah i think it would be cool

[slim coral]

Kinda miss out of explosive spear or thermite spear

[sacred tapir]

a napalm one would be awesome

hits then ignites

leaving a fire effect for 10-15 seconds

[slim coral]

Urchin spear

Also Coyote can kill voteless in 1 shot

If you able to set them on fire

[sacred tapir]

i want to get a thermite spear

[slim coral]

So if you cant headshot

[sacred tapir]

how many rounds does it come with?

the uh speargun

[slim coral]

I think 12

Its less than Railgun

[sacred tapir]

make it 7 + 1 and thermite

that would be cool

like you get 8 shots total, but its thermite

so armored targets get cooked

instantly

[slim coral]

Tbh thermite spear would be so meta

[sacred tapir]

(except striders, those would eat like 3)

[sacred tapir]

with more dropoff too

and it drops earlier

[slim coral]

I mean unless they counter it by having it high ricochet chance

[sacred tapir]

just so you cant straight snipe a bitch

[sacred tapir]

that would be interesting

make it like the dominator

[slim coral]

Idk if its me or the new charger variant ricochet a lot

[sacred tapir]

where it ricochets when on angles

intentional

meant to mimic higher armor values

[slim coral]

I had 2 RR shots ricochet off their armor

[sacred tapir]

which it does well

[sacred tapir]

hmm

now i wonder what their armor hitbox is like

one sec

yep that checks

was it the face?

it bounced on?

because its very slanted

[slim coral]

Yeh

[sacred tapir]

you should aim for the lowest part of the face

its the most flat from the front

[slim coral]

Also from what I found apparently shooting their belly also does a lot of damage

Using like Heavy MG or Laser

[sacred tapir]

yeah its just heavy pen, but its main health iirc

its considered lethal

if lost

2400 health

and hmg does 35

thats lots of shots tho

idk how it kills fast

maybe youre shooting something else?

not the underbelly?

different part of the body

thats 80 shots iirc?

to kill with 35 damage

no its 72 shots

whatever close enough

based on that math, thats quite slow

maybe the laser is better?

since burn

yeah its certainly better dps

idk and idc anymore thats all the math i care to do

[grizzled dagger]

https://x.com/Helldivers_NOW/status/1964983368254476383/photo/1 so true

[slim coral]

WHO LET FLESHMOB DESIGNER COOKED

[eager cliff]

we are just going to add no weak spots ggs

[slim coral]

Technically the dragon's weak spot is its head

Has least health but idk how it can fly with the wing that looks like 4 pieces of swiss cheese

[empty zealot]

We are just gonna say in the trailer that they have a weak spot as a wings but then forgor to add the code so the wings actually take fucking dmg, typical AH.

Goofy AH fr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0HVFopf4Tk&pp=0gcJCcYJAYcqIYzv

[plucky lion]

it would be a lot of work but it should be forced to the ground once you shred all its wings

then you could go up to it and hack at it with the machete XD

[slim coral]

Raider cheering

[empty zealot]

Imagine if you could shot it right in the mouth with the spear gun and the head would explode from toxin or sth

[sacred tapir]

ok we could get a thermite speargun

way more interesting than gas

[empty zealot]

We are getting thermite dominator

[sacred tapir]

we are?

is it doing heavy pen or something?

i dont get that

[empty zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R966VSn_Rng

There is also some gas variant

[sacred tapir]

we're getting an explosive peacekeeper?

what?

9x20mm explosive?

what the fuck

[empty zealot]

Leaks have so much shit, that oh boy....

[sacred tapir]

yeah i see

im not sure we're getting that whole list tho

[empty zealot]

At least some of it would be great

[sacred tapir]

i could see like 2-4 of each ammo for each caliber

but not all

[empty zealot]

The confirmed thing in the video is that we are getting more scopes...

[sacred tapir]

for apparently the killzone one

i just wish the halo rifle gets buffed

shits currently just not good

doesnt look good

[empty zealot]

Get attachments for the halo stuff bruh

That shotgun is also kinda meme

[sacred tapir]

nah

i just want a buff

it needs it

[empty zealot]

One youtuber even called that glaze shotgun lmfao

[sacred tapir]

and the shotgun needs fucking medium

i dont care what people say

they made a shotgun RIGHT BEFORE AN UPDATE AND MADE IT ALL MEDIUM

FUCK YOU AH

more importantly FUCK YOU ALEXUS

[empty zealot]

They need to do sth with overall penetration mechanic

[sacred tapir]

im not fucking happy

we also need more heavy pen

[empty zealot]

Would be great if some ammo variant would change weapon from medium to heavy

I'd assume that dominator with thermite might be the case of that

[sacred tapir]

"sick new ODST warbond, this is cool!" suppressors dont work, rifle is reskinned adjudicator, smg is just knight/sta smg again, pistol is mid

armor passive sucks donkey cock

nice one guys

[empty zealot]

Marketing shit

Then they release dust devils lmfao

[sacred tapir]

ODST warbond is like a second set of starter gear

its really not good

i am liking the leaks

[empty zealot]

I'd rather play with my lib pen lol

[sacred tapir]

theyre nice though

[sacred tapir]

ok thats too mean

id never take libpen over anything

[empty zealot]

I'm almost at lvl 24

[sacred tapir]

id openly take pacifier or lib concussive

over it

[empty zealot]

Bruh

[sacred tapir]

i fucking hate lib pen, soo mid

the adji is just better

[empty zealot]

Huh

[plucky lion]

i prefer the penetrator vs bugs, but vs illuminate and bots, adj al the way

[sacred tapir]

i never use penetrator

its just so bad

ttk of a fucking decade

[plucky lion]

the larger mag size is useful for the larger number of enemies

[sacred tapir]

id rather try a stalwart against a factory strider

and thats impossible XD

[empty zealot]

Doesn't adji have no mags attachment?

[sacred tapir]

yea, just aim better ig

and dont auto

it really acts more like a BR than AR

[empty zealot]

I can do the same with my lib pen

[plucky lion]

i think they both have similiar damage/mag

[empty zealot]

I've just got the demolition one recently, didn't even unlock it lol

[sacred tapir]

damage

no

literally NO

adji has 35 more

literally like 55% more

and mag, no, its 30 not 45

its the same as the small mag

it overall performs better once you slap attachments on it

too bad the crossbow overshadows literally anything else from its warbond

eruptor also casts a big shadow

[plucky lion]

adj has 2850 dmg per mag, penetrator has 2700 dmg/mag (assuming 45 rnds)

so with drum attachment penetrator will have more

[sacred tapir]

mfw i just want to kill things fast

i dont care about that

i just want shit dead today

not tomorrow

the dps on adji is higher

thats what matters

it also has more durable damage

which also matters

[empty zealot]

Well now I'm using coyote, so

[sacred tapir]

yeah it does 8 damage more in durable

and most enemies have a durable stat

[plucky lion]

penetraor has 675 durable dmg/mag while adj has 690 durable dmg/mag

pretty much the same kinda spread as with normal dmg

[empty zealot]

Wiki says dps for adji is even higher

Ah wait, I'm retarded

[sacred tapir]

adji is just better for most cases

just because of the durable

and in reality its more than 8 damage

since durable is combining both normal and durable damage

as long as its not 100% durable that is

[plucky lion]

in the case of bugs i like having more bullets

[sacred tapir]

for instance

the lib pen vs a devastator

[plucky lion]

but for illuminate one really nice thing about adj is it removes voteless legs with one bullet, making it pretty easy to take out hordes efficiently

[sacred tapir]

it has medium chest armor, and 30% durable

so that means 70% of the base damage

is added to the durable

that is 89.5 damage

only 5.5 less

than normal damage

lib pen on the other hand is 57

on a devastator

thats much less

of course on bugs it might be better, but on standard bugs a normal liberator is better

not even kidding

since more damage, and since base bugs dont have that fuckass medium armor everywhere

[empty zealot]

I've recently started to actually play the game, had only 2 warbonds unlocked(including default one), now I've 5.

[sacred tapir]

yeah thats great

im just pointing out its usage and why its better

its better for bots 100%

no questioning that

bugs its the lib pen, but the lib basic is still better

[plucky lion]

the trick is to not buy shit on the store and just buy whole warbonds because the 300 sc you get refunded helps a lot

[empty zealot]

Yeah

[sacred tapir]

the store is a scam tbh

mostly

i made the mistake of buying the axe

i regret it

[empty zealot]

I'm close to buying next one

[sacred tapir]

thought it would stagger, nope

literal abyssmal dogshit

[plucky lion]

melee is just not a good idea in this game imo soo whatever lol

[empty zealot]

Melee generally sucks, though ballistic shield and stun lance can help with the underground fucks

[sacred tapir]

alright to finish this off:

adji > libpen on bots
libpen > adji on bugs
idk for illuminate because i dont play that shitass faction

[sacred tapir]

i just dont play them

[empty zealot]

And also ballistic shield casually blocking all the roach shit

[sacred tapir]

not worth my time, its not fun

[empty zealot]

Ah screw illuminati

[sacred tapir]

yaaay lets play rupture bugs which you cant dodge as host :DDD WOOO

yeah no im good

i like fun