🤖🐛🦑helldivers

[twin perch]

Beam does extra dmg on armor plate

Chargers are sorta fast to kill w 1beam

[clear lintel]

Yeah sometimes it locks on properly, but sometimes it doesnt

Maybe elevation matters dunno

[autumn talon]

did we get a patch

[obsidian flame]

yes

excellent

although I used the slowness of that screen to go bathroom break

[twin perch]

Oh yeah F Breaker is 1 AP less

than Regu

(Makes sense)

[obsidian flame]

all stratagems bought

[autumn talon]

@twin perch how is arch thrower?

it used to ignore armor

[twin perch]

still does

[autumn talon]

lets goo

did they touch it at all?

[plain bough]

haven't played yet, how's the armor looking?

[light nymph]

From my experience, it's the smoke from combat and ambience that might be causing the issues

[clear lintel]

Well I wasn't having fun with heavy armor on bugs

[clear lintel]

maybe

[light nymph]

Heavy armour+flamer?

[plain bough]

Wonder if they'll make a heavy armor skin with an exoskeleton for extra sprint/stamina on it

[clear lintel]

I dont think heavy armor is worth with bugs tbh

They can jump on you and destroy you in a second

[plain bough]

yeah, heavy armor for the bots since they're on the slower side of things

[twin perch]

Untouched

[twin perch]

Works on Hunters and Roaches, Regular Bot shots

Anything bigger and Heavy armor really doesn't help

[plain bough]

that's somewhat disappointing

ah well, they'll keep pumping out balance patches for that sort of thing anyway with enough feedback

[twin perch]

Yeah but to be fair in HD1 the issue was the same

good on trash, bad on heavys

So like

it works on bots very well

but that's it

https://tenor.com/view/big-boss-mgs-metal-gear-solid-mgsv-metal-gear-solid5-gif-25238871

[obsidian flame]

gotta get back to farming rares and supers to get them destroyer unlocks

but I don't wanna

[plain bough]

I need like another 500 rares to finish my destroyer upgrades lol

[twin perch]

Hey

Don't worry

You'll get a whole set of upgrades just for vehicles

[obsidian flame]

[obsidian flame]

I need around 300 or something

[plain bough]

Im closer to finishing super samples than the rares ohmawgerd

[obsidian flame]

I only bought one upgrade that required 10 supers

the last one for the eagle strats

iirc.

[lucid depot]

hello everyone, how to disable the service so that you can sleep when you want and how much you want, the game says that the character is not tired , thank you in advance

всем привет , как отключить услугу чтобы ты мог спать когда хочешь и сколько хочешь , в игре пишет что персонаж не устал , заранее спасибо

[sharp kindle]

Bro got super lost lmao

[lucid depot]

Okay, I'm sorry.

[twin perch]

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat or #☢чат-сталкеров-ru-ua I think

[lucid depot]

ty

[twin perch]

[sharp kindle]

[raw folio]

About to stunlock my teammates

[autumn talon]

did we get anything new with the patch

[obsidian flame]

new content? no

actually yes

now there are randomized in-mission events

like meteor storms and whatnot

but no new guns/stratagems or anything

[autumn talon]

[twin perch]

Yeah I had a dust storm

[autumn talon]

well hopefully new bond next week since 2nd thursday

[twin perch]

Yeah, 14th

[sharp kindle]

meanwhile

the salt farm

"i cant do 9 without the railgun"
comedy has never peaked this hard

[obsidian flame]

[twin perch]

Me doing 9 with stratagems, rockets and a MG

[sharp kindle]

me who takes the scythe to 7+

[obsidian flame]

me who doesn't play 9

don't have it unlocked yet

I cleared a diff 8 operation but it only unlocked 8 for me because 7 was my max

[twin perch]

But yeah 9 bots > 9 bugs

9 bugs is just 😩

[sharp kindle]

also apparently swapping to unsafe mode is something quite alot of ppl didnt know

[twin perch]

annoying as fuck

I'd rather deal with the 6 hulks 4 tanks

than bug swarm

[obsidian flame]

the gods of gaming who dwell here claim it's not necessary

[sharp kindle]

it now is

[clear lintel]

Now it is

[sharp kindle]

it only validates the nerf

[obsidian flame]

[sharp kindle]

there was no reason for the unsafe mode to even exists

[clear lintel]

On high difficulties, I go with Shield and EAT 17 , railcannon strike and clusters

Or railcannon and rocket pods if automatons

[sharp kindle]

smoke bombs is also cool

[clear lintel]

Yeap

Now its going to be funny to clear Automaton outposts with the barrages

[obsidian flame]

because they last longer?

[earnest stag]

Smoke is good to disengage

[sharp kindle]

bots are too slow to cross the smoke radius before you gone

[plain bough]

Im enjoying the barrage orbitals now

Punisher too but still feels like too little shells

[obsidian flame]

I feel like I should probably try out other stuff but I'm too comfy with my setup

[plain bough]

time to use the heavy flamer

[obsidian flame]

it got buffed, right?

Laser Cannon as well

[sharp kindle]

ok

the flamer is pretty good

even on chargers wtf

[plain bough]

50% more flame damage ofc

[obsidian flame]

it kinda makes sense. It doesn't have to penetrate armor it can just cook the flesh inside it

[plain bough]

tried heavy armor, think I'll reserve that shit for bot campaigns

[sharp kindle]

for bots heavy seems more viable

speed is still king for bugs

[late dagger]

they made it 50% more powerful

[plain bough]

tried the laser cannon, its nice but still doesn't feel like its completely there yet for it

Think Im gonna use the Defender for now till the new pass drops

[raw folio]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-food-yummy-hungry-eat-gif-14910996404193409548

[twin perch]

because the laser canon has bonus vs armor not everything

[obsidian flame]

I'm curious about that laser shotgun

it was kinda good in hd1

[clear lintel]

We will get the sickle first it seems, not the tanto

[obsidian flame]

that one's kinda good, too

[clear lintel]

Seems shotgun that's coming is arc energy

[obsidian flame]

pew pew pew

[clear lintel]

Yeah, they were one of the best guns lol

[light nymph]

Stalwart my beloved

[clear lintel]

The justice

[eager cliff]

WE ARE UPDATING

[raw folio]

Iedy found the patch

So did we ever determine if the broken values were = to medium or = to 0

[eager cliff]

because Steam is retarded and drops my fucking download speed to 0

for some fucking reason

after a while

why nothing cant fucking work in this world

[light nymph]

Dissident to Democracy detected

[raw folio]

Steam truly is a dissident

[light nymph]

I was saying that about Iedy

[plain bough]

Lol did the first ICBM launch

[light nymph]

Did you end up extwa cwispy?

[plain bough]

anyone on the ICBM launch area gets fried

anywhere further launches you back

[eager cliff]

good

anyone want to play

[light nymph]

Working....

[eager cliff]

God damn fuck the reacts

Lol now you need to hold ESC to skip the intro

Guess i will watch it again

[eager cliff]

Good luck little grim anime

[light nymph]

[sharp kindle]

https://www.arrowheadgamestudios.com/2024/03/balancing-the-firepower-in-helldivers-2/

[eager cliff]

ALO

[sharp kindle]

them having to explain why they nerf shit is beyond silly

[eager cliff]

as a Tarkov player , i indeed find it funny af

BSG never explains jack cockshit and changes stuff without even announcing

Having the devs actually write a devblog on why is .....crazy

[obsidian flame]

instead of giving an auto-skip option they do that

[sharp kindle]

like they told us like 3 weeks ago

they were nerfing the popular guns

[plain bough]

Throughly enjoying the new speed of the endgame mission statistics

[sharp kindle]

and everyone is fucking shocked

[eager cliff]

i mean it makes sense , as much as i loved the Railgun , it was simply too good

no reason to take anything else

just railgun and ammo pls

[sharp kindle]

it still fucking good

just

[eager cliff]

it is , now u have to charge it

[sharp kindle]

not a point and click adventure

im also glad they addressed the "only buffs no nerfs" mentality

[plain bough]

Now to wait for the other weapon types to get some love and attention

[sharp kindle]

look at this man here
Bragging

[plain bough]

bragging about his recolored Hero Of The Federation suit lol

[granite nest]

Anyone helldiving right here right now?

new patch

motherfucker, skipping the first cutscene is now taking longer

we need to hold escape instead of clicking it

[eager cliff]

ah they sped up the mission rewards UI

nice

[obsidian flame]

yup, literally unplayable

anti-consumer

[eager cliff]

ngl the expendable anti tank right now

looks like a superb choice

[plain bough]

week to go for the mechs to drop

[twin perch]

HAH

MALEVOLON IS VIETNA;

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1213101255770116116/1214914096445653043/SPOILER_image.png?ex=65fad7ec&is=65e862ec&hm=29d45c7122960bc1b8778d5ea3f2c27d5805629850afc934fcc67fc94cbdefd9&

Helldivers praying for comms to be back online while hodling the line

[plain bough]

Haven't seen any of the environmental dangers yet, anyone seen one?

[twin perch]

I almost got fried in Draupnir i think

I kept seeing lightning

[earnest stag]

killing 350 bu8gs on difficulty 5

works

i farted and now the air increased the cooldowns

[clear lintel]

That's a shit one

[clear lintel]

What the fuck bro

[earnest stag]

Fiore breaker is nice

normal breaker is still better

[twin perch]

yeah

[earnest stag]

trying AP lib vs bugs now

worst choice ever

[clear lintel]

Yeah it isn't good

I'll just wait for the new batch of weapons

I pray to dear god for the sickle to be good this time around too

[earnest stag]

i take it back

its ok

[clear lintel]

I didn't like the feeling of it

[earnest stag]

use it as semi

[twin perch]

Yeah AP lib is not good unless you're shooting @ Armor

[granite nest]

true

[twin perch]

That's the main thing, it's great on spewers

[granite nest]

literally 1984

not democratic

[twin perch]

But it falls flat on everything else

[bleak patrol]

Excuse me?

[granite nest]

im having a weird issue

[sharp kindle]

they removed the armor/speed changes from helmets

[bleak patrol]

But did they fix armor?

[sharp kindle]

they did

but armor is shit

armor can be good for bots

but you at best tank chip damage with it on bugs

[granite nest]

im currently playing on diff 2 (i already played dozens of diff 7's and up with different people), i completed like 20 missions, but i cant unlock diff 3. I dont understand what "complete an operation" means. Is there any major goal/mission i have to attend to or some bullshit?

[sharp kindle]

i also had this funny moment were heavy armor saved me from an eagle strike

[bleak patrol]

Well, I play mostly bots anyway, so it's a win for me

[sharp kindle]

an op is all the mission in the yellow circle

[bleak patrol]

"Helldivers standing next to ICBMs during launch will get properly toasty with a chance of not-so-spontaneous combustion."

[sharp kindle]

but theres still bugs for players no being able to unlock new diffs

[granite nest]

i have only one on my difficulty. I completed like 10 of those already and still cant do shit

[sharp kindle]

yeah

you bugged

[granite nest]

how do i fix it

[sharp kindle]

simple

[granite nest]

man i wanna fucking play

[sharp kindle]

you dont

[granite nest]

the fuck you mean i dont

i will and fuck you

[bleak patrol]

SoundTrackJ on their way to have the most green samples known to man

[sharp kindle]

you gotta wait till they fix it

[granite nest]

their? I am not a liczba mnoga

[bleak patrol]

That's how english works

Also

Unless you tell me you're a dude, I will sometimes refer to you with they/them

[twin perch]

Ok what you gotta understand armor w ise

is that it works on Stuff like regular bot shots

and Scanvengers and Hunters

You're not going to get less damaged by hunters or anything warrior and above

[sharp kindle]

yeah ran a bugs with heavy

[twin perch]

it's the same thing as 1

heavy armor good for chip damage

[sharp kindle]

its pretty painful if your team cant deal with the elites

[twin perch]

but any "big" enemy is just going to fucking stab you

[bleak patrol]

Meta users doing everything just to not use other armors than Light

[granite nest]

i am a dude

[bleak patrol]

(Colorized)

[sharp kindle]

for bots heavy mightbe prefered

since bots are pretty fucking slow

[earnest stag]

YEAH LOL i noticed with the drone armor just now

[bleak patrol]

Where is my heavy medic armor

[plain bough]

I like me the flamer

[sharp kindle]

on other news
the flamer is pretty pog

it does kill you even faster

[plain bough]

Wait till we get the flame retardant suit

[earnest stag]

still best cause democracy

[bleak patrol]

But how does it look like?

[earnest stag]

democratic

[bleak patrol]

Meh

[earnest stag]

next freedom camp NOW

[bleak patrol]

Nah

[bleak patrol]

Nuh-uh

[sharp kindle]

im getting a feeling that pyson has no style

[earnest stag]

Or just not as democtratic as we thought

maybe hes a bug cuddler

[twin perch]

the last armor of the BP has it

[bleak patrol]

I just want a heavy medic armor

[twin perch]

next BP

[bleak patrol]

At least I can move to the medium now

Because light one is kinda ugly

[earnest stag]

that looks like from Spaceballs

EH JOEL

we just had 98% of Angels Venture

now its 75%

[bleak patrol]

I kinda like it

I just wish it wasn't green

[sharp kindle]

i wish medic armors werent

green

[bleak patrol]

But they are

[sharp kindle]

[shy schooner]

Any other weapons that were changed?

I know the jetpack is WAY better now

[sharp kindle]

the spray is apparently good now

[shy schooner]

Your able to jump over chargers

[twin perch]

Spray and Pray is superb

[plain bough]

jetpacks got a buff?

[shy schooner]

yeah

Its fucking nutty

[twin perch]

Slugger also has the ammo buff

[shy schooner]

I saw

[plain bough]

time to check that out

[shy schooner]

Im very happy

[bleak patrol]

There is nothing about the jump pack in the patch notes

[sharp kindle]

so which one is better

regular spay

or fire spray

[bleak patrol]

[granite nest]

[plain bough]

We gotta drag Sound with us on higher diff missions lol

[twin perch]

Both are good btw

[sharp kindle]

[twin perch]

Fire Spray has DoT, no full auto and 1 less AP

[sharp kindle]

i though they only buffed the normal spray

but they did both ?

[twin perch]

Regular Spray has no dot, full auto and higher damage

Yes

just like the Slugger and Regular

[sharp kindle]

[earnest stag]

https://youtube.com/shorts/j73WFx678p8?si=qcK0cxtUAv09Ksyp

[granite nest]

LETS GO, ANGELS VENTURE DONE

now its time to beat the shit out of fenrir

[sharp kindle]

terms are void if you read them is the most starship troopers shit ever

[granite nest]

i need 240 common samples to get the achievement

[eager cliff]

did we just.....?

[plain bough]

Just saw my first environemental hazard on Fenrir 3

Meteor shower, like map wide meteors dropping down

[twin perch]

So how's the Jetpack

[plain bough]

still the same

no buff

[bleak patrol]

It's the funny "you can't get me on this rock" tool

[twin perch]

Yeah about that...

the bugs dig aggresively now

[bleak patrol]

I play bots

[twin perch]

have you guys done any new eradication?

[granite nest]

wait a mintue

@sharp kindle

do i need to also finish a bot operation to get the new shit?

[bleak patrol]

No

[granite nest]

well then, im bugged

[bleak patrol]

But try it anyway

[granite nest]

i did some bots

maledevan creek

this place is fucking hell

[bleak patrol]

No it isn't

It's chill

[granite nest]

i lost because when i was going to the final extraction place, some suicidal motherfucker launched at me and exploded

literally 2084

[twin perch]

Average jetpack moment

[bleak patrol]

Those are jetpack units

I don't think they suicide bomb you on purpose

[granite nest]

I WAS GOING ON WITH MY BUSINESS

AND HE LAUNCHED AT ME AND EXPLDOED

was it on purpose?

[bleak patrol]

You should've killed him before

[granite nest]

came from a bush

[bleak patrol]

And?

[granite nest]

after i shot it, it boomed

right in my face

[bleak patrol]

Oh, so you exploded it

And you blame it on the bot

[granite nest]

i dont know what the fuck exploded it

[sharp kindle]

yeah

[shy schooner]

Then the jetpack is just placibo then

[bleak patrol]

Their jetpacks explode

[granite nest]

it launched at me and exploded

[sharp kindle]

funny suicide bot

[shy schooner]

It just feel better

[granite nest]

i shot him in the face

[bleak patrol]

Doesn't matter

You can still destroy their jetpacks that way

I think it's harder to kill them without exploding them in the process

[twin perch]

yeah

the only realistic way is 1 taps and leg shots

ideally their best use is using them as live nades

berserkers hate them

[bleak patrol]

Live Incendiary Nades

Malevelon Creek has to be my 2nd fav planet

Vandalon IV takes the spot for 1st

[soft patio]

yeah those jumper guys with the backpack get as close as possible because when they die they blow up

kill then dive away

[obsidian flame]

it's very rare and unreliable to kill them without them blowing up

[granite nest]

Helldire or whatever it was called

it was nice

[obsidian flame]

even with headshots they still blow up

[obsidian flame]

hellmire?

[granite nest]

yea

[bleak patrol]

But can you throw snowballs on Hellmire?

[obsidian flame]

hellballs

[bleak patrol]

Hell...bombs?

[obsidian flame]

hell...divers?

[bleak patrol]

Helldivers dropping Hellbombs on Hellmire

[granite nest]

helldivers be cumming when they see hellmire

Helldivers fucking dying because of diving in lava

[bleak patrol]

Poopli IX

[granite nest]

Helldivers when Heavenswimmers

[bleak patrol]

Heavenswimmers when Earthwalkers

[eager cliff]

I love when Helldivers said "It's Helldiving time" and Helldropped on Hellmire to give hell to the hellish bug spawns with a Hellbomb

[bleak patrol]

with a Hellbomb* Thanks

[eager cliff]

Hey they fixed the intro again lol

U can skip it with mouse click

[grizzled yacht]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw1Va9nxfV8

[shy schooner]

I hate the same debuff on planets over and over

"Stratagem call in time 100%"

[obsidian flame]

[bitter elk]

My most favourite planet are the ones with the crimson grass

They personally have the least weather conditions that obstruct views

And is a pretty beautiful place on clear weather

The worst have to be desert ones, especially pre update

[twin perch]

What do you mean you don't like being barely able to see shit while being torn apart in real time

[bitter elk]

Like holy fuck it's ass sometimes.

[bitter elk]

Desert sandstorm + bug spore spewer

Holy shit legit can't see past 5m

LMAOO

[twin perch]

Reason 1 why I carry a shotgun

[bleak patrol]

Collab when

[bitter elk]

I actually prefer slugger ever since I first got my hands on it

Been real awesome for popping devastator heads

And deleting brood bug legs

[twin perch]

try the SG8 now

Trust me

[eager cliff]

60 ammo is much better

[bitter elk]

The base shotgun punisher?

[eager cliff]

• i heard it refills the whole mag in 1 ammo box

[bitter elk]

I do wonder how it is now

[bitter elk]

Yeah it does now for resupply box

Ammo field kit still 50%

[twin perch]

Yeah you get more ammo now

[bitter elk]

Also Helldiver discord literally a chaos shit show ATM lmao ever since update

Can't discuss anything there

[bleak patrol]

What are they shitshowing about?

[raw folio]

"wah wah my railgun"

[twin perch]

Shield, Railgun, Breaker

[bitter elk]

They made spear lock on actually good and consistent somewhat now, for bugs that is.

Automatons its still kinda shit.

Love using it Vs bile titans

[light nymph]

I'm looking there, shit is hilarious.
So many people malding

[twin perch]

Can you imagine having to think before using the railgun?

[bleak patrol]

My honest answer:
lmao git gud

[eager cliff]

im using the expendable rpg and is nice af

[twin perch]

Pov me doing Helldive with the AR-23 Liberator and a Revolver

[raw folio]

"Oh no I need to use unsafe mode on the gun to do what I was doing before"

[twin perch]

By the way

Revolver has a flip anim

If you guys haven't seen it

[bleak patrol]

Yesterday

[bitter elk]

EAT is dank up to D7, IMO D8+ spawn intensity is far too much for you alone to deal with the tanky enemies

[raw folio]

Rule of cool at its finest

[bleak patrol]

Me and my friend "swapped" loadouts

As in, I took recoilless, he took railgun

[bitter elk]

Tho recoilless one shots charger leg armor from what I heard? So that's a viable option

[twin perch]

yeah bro twirls it when he pulls it out

[light nymph]

Liberator underrated

[bleak patrol]

I'm not letting him take the railgun ever again

[twin perch]

and when I'm waiting for shit I just twil it

[raw folio]

It does, its viable.

[bleak patrol]

Especially now that it got nerfed

[twin perch]

Recoiless was always viable

[bitter elk]

Shit against bile titans tho ain't it

[twin perch]

and better than railgun at dealing w armor

nope

just 2 head taps

[raw folio]

Au contraire

It FUCKS with biles

[twin perch]

Like Railgun is only good due utility

[bitter elk]

Hm, I will have to give it another try for sure

[twin perch]

but all other guns perform better than it in some way

[obsidian flame]

dear god never

[bleak patrol]

The whole mission was a shitshow because my friend refused to use the railgun on anything other than Hulks or Rocket Devastators

[bitter elk]

I took spear primarily because it can deal with both charger and bile titan, and free up stratagem slot for anti swarm

But honestly it struggles due to sheer charger amount

Still good, don't get me wrong, occasionally one shots

[twin perch]

use autocanon

4 shots at ass

1 with recoiless

[bitter elk]

Bounces off bile titan at the wrong angle though, so yeah a bit finicky

[raw folio]

Hit back of leg, then front of leg with AC

[bleak patrol]

Ok now, real question

[raw folio]

For chargers

[bitter elk]

So il give recoilless another try later

[twin perch]

for biles you don't use anything apart from railcanon

[bleak patrol]

How much does the nerf affect the railgun

[twin perch]

or stratagems

[bleak patrol]

Like, when do I have to switch to unsafe

[raw folio]

Charger armor needs unsafe.

[twin perch]

Hulks, tanks, devas 1 taps, charger legs

You can still eye tap

but you'll bounce off otherwise

[obsidian flame]

1tap tanks?

[bleak patrol]

So I can't cut devastators in half in one shot anymore?

[twin perch]

4 taps

[bleak patrol]

But can it still pen walkers?

[obsidian flame]

anywhere? or in the rear turret weak point

[twin perch]

yes if tummy in safe, yes if unsafe chest shot

and yes walkers

[twin perch]

Shooting @ turret from the front or side

[bleak patrol]

Ok, so barely anything changes for me

[twin perch]

2 reoicless at turret also kills it

[bitter elk]

The issue is often

[twin perch]

tank "body" is tougher

[bleak patrol]

Because I mostly used my railgun on walkers and cutting devastators in half

[bitter elk]

Sorry I forgot which reply I was replying to so I had to just enter

LMAO

[twin perch]

If you say the issue is that they're more than 1 bile

[bleak patrol]

While my friend took care of bigger things

[twin perch]

there is a reason there's 3 more people too

[bleak patrol]

With his recoilless

[twin perch]

Recoiless is just really good and great ammo eco

[obsidian flame]

what if he's soloing

[twin perch]

and you can refill rockets off the ground

if he's soloing he won't get more than 3 biles

at 9

and you just use the biles to kill each other

or make them spew into a mountain and melt themselves

[bitter elk]

Yeah sorry in call so my brain is splitting lol

Anyway, yeah it's definitely the problem as a solo to be honest, if railcannon consistently one shots it'd be worth to bring more often but it doesn't sadly

At D8+ above they spawn pretty consistent and hence strains the stratagem use

[twin perch]

rocket pods

nad 500kg

basically triple railcanon, and 2 uses of "better pinpoint" strike

[bitter elk]

I will lack swarm killing power though, I tend to have more problems with those than elites usually

Essentially my solo setup ATM is

[twin perch]

Cluster and Rocket pods, guns for cc an a heavy back up

or a slugger and a MG

Stalwart is a viable gun on 9

[bitter elk]

Spear
EMS
Gas
Flex slot, usually bring dependant on what I need most based on map effect

Light armor with extra padding due to armor changes

EMS and Gas is a big friend of mine

Unless it's 100% stratagem arrive time effect

[twin perch]

Recoiless, EMS, 500 KG, Flex Slot

[bitter elk]

Then I change to like sentries and Ems mortar

Yeah I need to give Recoilless another try

[twin perch]

You can guess the EMS/500kg combo

Recoiless works really well as long as you can pace yourself

I'd unironically suggest jetpack if solo

You can just peace out

[bitter elk]

Heard we eventually gonna get like NPC stratagem to help solo mf, but god forbid they last more than 2 seconds lol

[eager cliff]

who tf plays alone

[bitter elk]

People have mentioned EMS isn't supposed to affect bile titan, and I'm like, "wuh, seriously?"

[twin perch]

I play solo 5 and 7 to chill

[bitter elk]

Also fuck chargers ignoring EMS mid charge

[twin perch]

Can't do eradication solo anymore tho

[bitter elk]

That's BS lol

[twin perch]

Honestly for solo you need like

A: trash killer (Cluster) B: pinpoint deleter (500 kg or orbi)

C and D are very "what guns are you bringing"

kinda mood

cause C can still be like "laser drone" and Anti Material Rifle/MG

depending on your primary

[bitter elk]

I actually play a lot of solo to honestly make sure I don't have skill issue tbh, practicing and all that

Last thing I wanna do is join someone else and be dead weight, I'd feel bad, for real

Level 44 and vibing atm

[twin perch]

Here's my take

You're only a dead weight after the 4th teamkill

or you keep using mortar turret with bugs

[bitter elk]

Eradication change is ass

[twin perch]

[bitter elk]

Don't know what the fuck they thinking

[twin perch]

Eradication is Pre-Neft defense

[bitter elk]

Railed solo players over

[twin perch]

I know what they're thinking

"No more fast Erad farming" on defense planets

Because you could do it in 3 mins on 9

and eat 8 medals and fuck off

[bitter elk]

I actually love playing D5 with randoms, just vibin cause u know unless u fuck up bad u can't really lose anyway

Or random burning through 19 reinforces lol

[twin perch]

You can lose 5 when the randoms taps the heavy outpost

and there's 8 hulks in play

[bitter elk]

Taps, peaces out and doesn't help

Thanks rsndom

[twin perch]

Heavy outpost tends to have 2 tanks, 4 hulks or worse shit

[plain bough]

Dying every 15 seconds with a earlier rando diff 5 team, then they ragequit lol

[raw folio]

I had a random do that on 9 and I was

[obsidian flame]

I do

[bitter elk]

Me whenever one of The only two dude I play with keeps bringing shit like mortar and barrage

On a bug mission.

God please help me

[obsidian flame]

if I waited for ppl to play with I'd still be level 10

[bitter elk]

We need swarm clear shit but I don't have the heart to tell em off lol

[twin perch]

I politely ask to stopkilling us

and if they keep that up I just blow their turrets when they're not looking

XD

Barrage is good now tho

[bitter elk]

Lol that's what I do when we about to proceed

[raw folio]

I've only snapped at a rando once

[twin perch]

Idk why randos want to full clear the map btw

[plain bough]

Calling down hellfire on this particular location

[twin perch]

the rewards are uh not worht it

secondaries? yes

nests? why?

it's 20 + 20 + 25 exp

even witha 250% mult

that's nothing

[bitter elk]

Mostly tryna get the samples, nest are side objectives u hit along the way

[raw folio]

And that's when they nearly tk'd me with gl by firing on bugs right next to me, after they had already tk'd one of the people i was queued with twice the same way

[bitter elk]

Otherwise no reason

[twin perch]

You know what I really don't like

[plain bough]

diff 7-9 is just main objectives + super samples

[twin perch]

dying and finding a random just grabbing my kit

instead of his

[bitter elk]

Eh, I digress, for base hammering yeah

[twin perch]

and I'm like

[bitter elk]

For middle of the field bug wars

[raw folio]

I was not becoming a statistic that run

[bitter elk]

Not so much imo

[twin perch]

that's my support gun lol

[twin perch]

120mm

380mm for bases

120mm for nests

120mm is really good at chokepointing

[bitter elk]

380mm in tandem with 120mm is dank base clear, one without the other is too inconsistent IMO

[twin perch]

you can use either now

they're just good now

[raw folio]

Well they changed those

[twin perch]

stacking 4 380's now is going to be

*insane+

literally 120m map clear

[raw folio]

Me throwing post buff 380 without the armor perk for range increase

[bitter elk]

Dude with GL + Supply pack about to fuck up yer day be like:

Death is not my concern

[twin perch]

I made that mistake

I feel GL is really good in a group

[raw folio]

It's okay if i'm queued with you. But if you have already tk'd the new player i'm with twice I ain't dealing with you.

[bitter elk]

Certainly, though I still personally swear by my EMS + Gas combo

Neutralizes threat possibility by stunning them, and gassing them to death

Low CD too, so that's a bonus reactivity

Completely nullified if 100% Stratagem arrive time cause fuck pre planning that

[twin perch]

Fart master

use laser for big fuck it all button imo

[raw folio]

hehehehe you fool, I am already 5 parallel dimensions ahead of you

[bitter elk]

The fact it still doesn't nearly bring a charger near death with full on gassing period is

Omegalul though.

But otherwise a superb combo for sure!

Shame we don't have more short cd stuff to pair with EMS

Maybe eagles stuff ig but still lol

[bitter elk]

Oh yeah no worries

If anyone TKs my partners, especially purposely, I'm snapping to your head and instantly killing you, and kicking after lol.

[raw folio]

I assume the dude just wasn't thinking about spacing whatsoever and after the second time we were done with letting it slide. So they did not like the words that came out of my mouth when they nearly did it to me

[bitter elk]

On the topic of friendly fire though, I always underestimate Tesla towers and how it can effectively double it's zapping range if there's something to connect it to you outside its AOE.

[raw folio]

Good gl? Fine. Completely braindead gl? You might as well be a bile spewer

[bitter elk]

I have died like 5 times to my own Tesla LMAO

[bitter elk]

Frankly if I'm doing explosive swarm killing I still prefer autocannon, at least that shit is more controllable as the projectile doesn't bounce in weird ways

[bitter elk]

Me looking at the super destroyer pissin laser right below bile titan be like

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-orange-cat-orange-cats-cat-weird-gif-17010424884748616697

[twin perch]

bro, don't piss on the bugs

[bitter elk]

frankly nothing has brought me more gamer rage than chargers lol

One time I got so angry at the chargers I just said, "why does your bloodline even exists" and my friend just laughed lol

[twin perch]

Chargers are really overtuned imo

[bleak patrol]

I don't have any problems with Chargers

[twin perch]

too fast, too mobile and keep turning and charging

[bleak patrol]

They are predictable

I hate the Hunters tho

[twin perch]

playing with @clear lintel one of them turned, hit me, and did the hip knock 0.1s later

lol

[bleak patrol]

Not even Stalkers, just Hunters

[grizzled yacht]

found another one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQWUstkMP6g

[bitter elk]

OH BOI

the charger side bump

that induces a new level of bubblin anger

[twin perch]

They're rn, too "mobile"

and too spammy

with too much armor

personally I think the "upper" ass shouldn't bounce 50% of your shots

XD

[bitter elk]

Thing is right, I feel like they are the keystone of bug threat at the moment

Remove them and the entire terminid faction is ez fuckin pz

The entire reason all other bug feel threatening is because chargers would always put us on a chokehold and divert our attention from fully focusing on the swarm

[bitter elk]

Hunters carries that smug energy of knowing it can't do much damage by itself but holy fuck it rails you over when they hit you lol

especially with how persistent they are

also I kinda regret not getting that heavy armor with extra padding

i wonder how good that is atm

currently sporting this post update

[twin perch]

They just need to be less... manouverable

they have the amror and 1hit

[bitter elk]

less maneuvering, wider turning margin and maybe not perma charging ngl lol

[twin perch]

that or longer "I need to stop after charging"

cause you barely get a good window

[sharp kindle]

that 200 armor suit still gets 1 tapped by anything larger than a hive guard

[twin perch]

Yup

As I said again

Armor is vs Fodder

Anything Warrior ir Larger will chew you

Same with missiles, it's a fucking RPG

[bitter elk]

Oh yeah no I'm aware

As I've mentioned, it tends to be that the little guys that gets me more

[sharp kindle]

only thing armor has done for me atm

[bitter elk]

than anything else

so it serves me extremely well atm

[sharp kindle]

is making me survive an eagle strike to the face

[bitter elk]

im curious with the charger head HP changes, how would a recoilless to the face be like

[sharp kindle]

cant 1 tap it
recoilless is still best used to strip leg armor and smach it

[bitter elk]

a spear hitting its head directly one shots it

aye, just curiosity seeing on how much it would take if i did do it

[sharp kindle]

if it could it could also 1 tap titans

and at that stage
whats the point of the spear

[obsidian flame]

The only time I used a Tesla Tower, it killed me while I was prone

[bitter elk]

A spear still takes like 4 shot to actually end a fresh bile titan

from any body part hits as far as experience goes

how much would RR be?

[bitter elk]

lmfao i suppose it doesnt account for u proning if its chain zappin from another target KEK

[obsidian flame]

There was nothing else around

[bitter elk]

still kinda wish resupply full refilled nades n stims.

[obsidian flame]

I would've tolerated it if it arc'd from some other target but nope

[twin perch]

it takes 2 shots

[bitter elk]

dunno why it doesnt lol

[twin perch]

Spear 1 taps everything at head

the issue is spear lock-ing is wonk

and it doesn't guarantee head taps

[bitter elk]

wonking is one thing, getting the angle for head tap is also another challenge aye

Hm, shot twice to the head of titan with RR, didnt die, im guessing some specific aim spot is needed

[obsidian flame]

rr?

[twin perch]

Recoiless

[twin perch]

has to be proper "forehead" hits

if it moves a bit it whiffs

[bitter elk]

bro...

[bitter elk]

Yeah I should probs stop using abbreviations lol

[bitter elk]

ah shucks

but then again 2 hits to the head does heavily wound it at least

so with teammate no doubt it'd be easy to take down

well, if they got AT options, lol.

[sharp kindle]

[obsidian flame]

er

intro is unskippable for me now

[sharp kindle]

same energy

[sharp kindle]

click it

[obsidian flame]

nothing works

[twin perch]

Seems helldivers 2 servers are dead

[sharp kindle]

well you can restart the game and click it this time

[obsidian flame]

People talking about flying bugs

[twin perch]

I guess I'll keep working..

[obsidian flame]

I'm more concerned about this guy who can yeet your gun away from you

[twin perch]

That's a stalker

[bleak patrol]

Yup

[twin perch]

well, Hunter, Stalkers are just large Hunters

[bleak patrol]

What if that's just a small Stalker

You know, bad genes

Dude lost the lottery

[obsidian flame]

well that's unfortunate

back to Doom

[sharp kindle]

powered by bullshit
smol stalker will steal helldivers equipment

[twin perch]

Are you saying it's just a lil guy?

[bitter elk]

need further testing but I firmly believe

[bleak patrol]

Ye

[bitter elk]

you can two tap chargers directly to the head to kill it now after update

[bleak patrol]

Look at that lil guy

[twin perch]

He's just a little guys

[twin perch]

With recoiless?

[bitter elk]

yeah

[bleak patrol]

You could do it before

[bitter elk]

Oh really, huh

[sharp kindle]

recoiless does the same damage as the expendable ones right ?

[bleak patrol]

I think

[bitter elk]

cuz now railgun can like tap its head 4 times to delete it too

[bleak patrol]

I remember you needed 2 EAT headshots to kill a Charger

[bitter elk]

i can check in a bit

[bleak patrol]

There's literally nothing about Recoilless in the patch notes

There is just Breaker, Railgun, Flamethrower, Laser Cannon, Punisher and Breaker S&P

[twin perch]

Yes

EAT is the same as Recoiless

the only difference is reloading

[bleak patrol]

• Energy Shield BP and 380mm/120mm barrages

[sharp kindle]

ok if that so

[bleak patrol]

I doubt there were any sneaky changes that were not mentioned in the patch notes

[sharp kindle]

you can prob get alot more milage out of having the EAT as a callin over having the recoiless without support

[bleak patrol]

You can also use the drop pod as ammo

[bitter elk]

Depends, occasionally it can be hard to have an EAT on the go to summon if you're under heavy pressure

While having RR at hand in that same instance allows you to immediately deal with the problem

I do love EAT though, certainly don't get me wrong

[sharp kindle]

yeah i can totally see myself mistiming the eat callin and having it be lost in the mid of the hoard

[bitter elk]

Mhm

[bitter elk]

They actually partially fixed spear's problematic lock on

Only for bugs that is

still omega ass vs. automatons

[sharp kindle]

everything is ammo

[bitter elk]

Rather than sneaky patch more like

'unintended' changes

[bleak patrol]

You can use a Charger as ammo

[latent zodiac]

im fine with the nerfs and buffs, the nerfs aren't that bad and buffs are pretty cool, i just wish there was a single damn thing you could do against the stun everything seems to do to you
also the official discord is getting hectic

[bitter elk]

Yeah thats why i discuss here

so i can actually get civil discussion going instead of

"git gud scrub" 100 times lol

[sharp kindle]

you know

[bleak patrol]

The best way to avoid stun is not getting hit

[sharp kindle]

its in this patch

[bitter elk]

hm?

[sharp kindle]

that i saw the first ever rando using the fire spray

[bitter elk]

flamethrower is definitely a lot more fun now

but

god forbid u dont have a shield

[bleak patrol]

Actually a few days ago I saw a thumbnail for a YT video calling the fire Breaker the best weapon in the game

[bitter elk]

hunter about to spread love

and fire

LMAO

[sharp kindle]

you come to know that "official" discord servers are complete dogwater
pure dens of whinnying

[bleak patrol]

I didn't watch the video because I literally don't care

Liberator Pen my beloved

Jar-5 close 2nd

[latent zodiac]

yeah..
everyone is insulting the devs brutally as if 2 weapon nerfs and a pack nerf means everything is gonna be made weak, ignoring the buffs

[bitter elk]

also

stratagem increase 100% arrival, i havent taken a proper look but does it actually double the arrival or just

flat on adding seconds lol

[bleak patrol]

Those people don't know how to have fun in games, they just want to be "good"

[sharp kindle]

yeah what arrowhead did is tame as fuck
and everyone is calling them blizzard likes

meanwhile

fatshark sitting other there

with darktide

[bitter elk]

vermintide 2 my beloved

darktide who dat

[bleak patrol]

They are undemocratic and need to be sent for re-education

[sharp kindle]

personally i prefer darktide over vt2

but good god it had a terrible launch

and post launch

and just recently 14 months later

is it getting better

so anything arrowhead does is miles better than fatshark does by default

[bitter elk]

a fair matter, i just swear by vt2 as its melee system is the greatest there is so far

fights feel like a dance

tho im totally biased

[sharp kindle]

im super biased against character locked classes on a coop game

[clear lintel]

Helldivers 2 by December will have so much variety in guns and stratagems people will no longer complain

[sharp kindle]

mechs also look quite cool

if they are strats with limited ammo which you then have to ditch
would be ok

[latent zodiac]

i have a lot more fun when im in a group, but when im alone trying to get rare samples on level 4, the hunter and charger spam is too much to deal with at times

[sharp kindle]

like a power boost when you need it

[clear lintel]

The mechs?

The mechs have limited ammo yeah

[bleak patrol]

People will still find the 1 gun and 4 stratagems that you must use otherwise you're trolling

[clear lintel]

You can't restock them but apparently you can call them twice

And that's it

[obsidian flame]

could the servers be down because of morons ddos'ing?

[bleak patrol]

Bugs can get annoying

Try your luck with bots

[obsidian flame]

oh game's back up

[bitter elk]

sorry i was too busy railing chargers

cant help it

[obsidian flame]

what was the cap for currencies again?

[obsidian flame]

[bleak patrol]

50k?

[obsidian flame]

yeah and the rest?

samples

250 commons?

[sharp kindle]

250 medals

[bleak patrol]

They have a cap?

[sharp kindle]

500 commons

[obsidian flame]

Someone mentioned they did

[sharp kindle]

250 and 50 ?

for the other samples

[obsidian flame]

[bitter elk]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-uh-ok-shy-gif-13015578

[sharp kindle]

almost right

[bleak patrol]

Never gonna reach that anyway

[bitter elk]

Hm, yeah, EAT still performs as expected

2 shots head, 1 leg as usual

Same as RR then

[bleak patrol]

inb4 EAT deals 1 point of damage more, making it the new meta

[bitter elk]

the animation tech is still there, hit it at just the right time and it dies in one EAT to the leg

[twin perch]

How often do you die

[sharp kindle]

on bugs

[twin perch]

That is the difference over "EAT and Recoiless

[sharp kindle]

about every 5 minutes i guess

[clear lintel]

Wtf

[latent zodiac]

probably be doing that later, cause i heard the bugs have some kind of natural armor pierce to thier hits that make them stronger against heavy armor then bots with the AC fix

[bitter elk]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-stare-gif-18177876402917143905

i need to now test RR headshot vs. charger

railgun* sorry

anyone know how much it used to take

to kill charger with headshot?

[bleak patrol]

It kind of makes sense to me

[sharp kindle]

what was the old railgun shots needed to kill chargers ?

[bitter elk]

yeah i dunno cuz i never aimed for the head, always the leg

[obsidian flame]

3-4 shots to the same leg

[bitter elk]

haha

[obsidian flame]

for headshots I don't think I was landing hits correctly

[latent zodiac]

same here, bug spike leg or weird laser thing

[obsidian flame]

because it was always taking me 8+ shots

[bitter elk]

yeah il give it a test run now

[twin perch]

Bugs don't have armor piece

[bleak patrol]

Doesn't matter

[twin perch]

bugs literally stab you with a leg the lenght of your body

[bleak patrol]

It makes sense to me that armor doesn't protect againts bugs as much as it does against bots

[twin perch]

I mean that's literally the reason why it doesn't lol

[bitter elk]

bots use rifle to shoot bullets

bugs

they are the bullets

but far bigger

[bleak patrol]

Yeah but you don't have to act smart explaining why it does

[obsidian flame]

bullets with legs and teeth

[bitter elk]

Bullet with attitude

[sharp kindle]

walking knifes

[clear lintel]

The bugs are aggressive huggers

[bleak patrol]

Big walking spike bullets

Fat fucks vomiting acid, probably

[twin perch]

Like

[sharp kindle]

very london

[twin perch]

https://youtu.be/RtE3ue3hBhE?si=06VIy60ukp-xYCp_

this is what happens

when a bug stabs you

what's funny to note is that the bugs are not immune to their own acid

[bleak patrol]

Well, bots are not immune to their own rockets

[twin perch]

Yeha but it's like

Tyranids

[bitter elk]

huh

over 90% or perhaps even 95%

3 headshot to the head kills a charger

[twin perch]

You'd think they're like "developed" to not hurt each other

[bitter elk]

for railguns

[twin perch]

but no they don't give a fuck

[twin perch]

too risky lol

[bleak patrol]

What if they

Bully smaller fucks

With acid

To death

[bitter elk]

It is probably the most convenient way if you can get the timing right though but yeah indeed

High risk high reward

I have to actually ADS so I can see the charge meter properly

[twin perch]

I mean, even then they don't stop

and all it takes is a bug tapping you

throwing your aim off

and you not letting go of "shoot"

[bitter elk]

They do actually, massively flinch that is

but il need to check mid charging

cuz i was sitting on a rock lol

[shy schooner]

If I were to change one thing about chargers

It would be that they could run over or kill their fellow bugs

[bleak patrol]

But they can

I dunno about killing, but I saw them ragdoll other bugs

[shy schooner]

Bro, when I see a charger run straight into a stalker and it do nothing

[bitter elk]

I unalived myself with the overcharge

shit

[bleak patrol]

And I even used it to help myself

[bitter elk]

I mildly wish it did a small beep if it pushed past 90%

so i can use it as an auditory cue

[shy schooner]

I just count

after I hear the half-way charge noise, I start counting to 5

If I reach 5, I blow up

[obsidian flame]

or energy rounds, either

I love it when one of the bots with the automatic blaster is behind his entire squad

he does my job for me

[bleak patrol]

2 days ago I saw a rocket devastator snipe a walker pilot with a rocket

I guess rocket devastators are to bots as mortar sentries are to helldivers

[sharp kindle]

[obsidian flame]

... uh... I think this module description is... bugged

[sharp kindle]

yeah or the tanks shooting the hulks

[obsidian flame]

This one makes barrage-type orbitals fire 1 more salvo, right?

[bleak patrol]

I think?

[shy schooner]

I think?

As well

[earnest stag]

I had my mortar shoot me today when there was no enemies ...

That was fun.

[bleak patrol]

What one split second of undemocratic thoughts does to a mf

[earnest stag]

2 minutes

It was 2 minutes of nothing

[bitter elk]

solid snake

[earnest stag]

Then i exploded from my Mortar

[sharp kindle]

feels like

a 40k quote could be used there

heresy grows from idleness
in this case communism

[bleak patrol]

https://discordapp.com/channels/912320241713958912/1212788564270645368/1213493650882039859

[tawny herald]

cardboard box stratogem would be awesome

[bitter elk]

lmfao

[clear lintel]

Time to run ballistic shield, heavy armor and heavy laser

[sharp kindle]

laser takes backpack slot doesnt it ?

[clear lintel]

Nope

Pretty sure it doesnt

[sharp kindle]

you cant have a support weapon and the shield on anyways

[clear lintel]

I know

[twin perch]

I tried that today...

[sharp kindle]

tacshield would be a lot better if it gave you at least some sort of stun immunity if hit from the front

[twin perch]

the ballistic shield is sitll not that good...

even w heavy armor vs bots.

[bleak patrol]

wdym

It's great

I've used it a lot last week

[light nymph]

shield takes up backpack slot

[clear lintel]

Yeah but the laser doesnt, right?