🛩war-thunder

[sleek fractal]

what i wrote

they use the same model for all of em

[cold lichen]

I know, im just processing it

[eternal apex]

Russian bias is real fr

[cold lichen]

But what ARE the other values?

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nah russian bias isnt a thing in a long time

French bias is real

[cold lichen]

I know if all the DU shit and how its still going

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It really took over

[cold lichen]

REAL

ACTUALLY REAL

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They are buffing French stuff for at least 2 years now

first they hated it but now a ton of French people work at Gaijin xD

They buffed the Rafale last update AGAIN

[cold lichen]

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and are nerfing the shit outta the Typhoon and Eurofighter

They even gave the Rafale and Typhoon a Radar that was only developed for the fucking Eurofighter

It was a special project for Germany by Airbus and only used by Germany

[cold lichen]

Thats cringe

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yeah and i cant find the fucking bug report link

one sec i need to search xD

yeah cant find it fuck

[eternal apex]

Thats so wack

[bold sail]

https://fixupx.com/ShitpostRock/status/2002071430037434583

Rock Solid (@ShitpostRock)

WAIT THE WAR THUNDER INFANRY UPDATE WAS NOT A JOKE???

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FixupX · Dec 19, 2025, 5:40 PM

[ruby rain]

Big, complex and heavy.
For example a Leo 1 is better in Ukraine because it is faster, doesn't bog down as much, maintenance is much cheaper, less reliant on air superiority

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dafuq

its not as big as an Abrams or Challenger

its faster than both

its as complex as all the other high tech military stuff

Leo 1 is completely outdated in terms of modern Warfare

It works cause so is Russia

[fallen sparrow]

Ah hell yeh

Modern Enlisted

Cant wait to spend 500 hours to unlock M4A1

[bold sail]

Spend 2500 RP to research better legs

[fallen sparrow]

I'd love to see a pistol round hits a person chest and its just Shell Shattered

Because they have 1.0 BR higher Ceramic Plate than me

[sleek fractal]

jokes on you thats the XM5

[fallen sparrow]

Ew

I want to unlock SIG Sauer P320 and it has 3% chance of shooting your leg off

Got half a year premium for 19 dollars

https://tenor.com/view/money-rich-gif-26230191

[sleek fractal]

only thing worth to buy

30 bucks is 1 year prem here

pulled it

[junior garden]

What does the green stripe mean in a marathon?

[fallen sparrow]

Have a sub fighting ship

Does not have sub in game

[copper laurel]

how much you earned since you last updated it

[high estuary]

Sub chaser is just a funny way of saying fast boat with a gun on it

[fallen sparrow]

So

Basically a different name PT Boat

[high estuary]

Yes, but with bigger guns

[fallen sparrow]

Hmm

Gun boat

Ig it drops depth charge and sea mine instead of torpedo

[rain lily]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/821814501045043291/1330797864804421694/meme.gif

[fallen sparrow]

Me, a M26 seeing a conqueror

https://tenor.com/view/man-watching-looking-fear-scared-gif-20121830

[hollow pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-it's-peak-cat-it's-coal-its-peak-its-mid-gif-12295099395828911145

[naive bramble]

[fallen sparrow]

I heard the new BMP is absolutely busted

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it is

and they buffed it more

Cant explode anymore when you blow up the rockets

[mellow zealot]

this is gonna be so ass dude

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[eternal apex]

gotta secure those end of year sales for the stockholders fr

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BMPT 2.0

[eternal apex]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-cat-gif-10010192375921110151

[sand hinge]

Pizda it all I uninstalled

anyone want an acc with 279, Surblinde and BI? 2 beers and a box of chocolates

After I noticed I was actively grinding SL for half a day in the hopes of getting the ersatz (which I missed back in the day) I was like fuck this, time to uninstall. Screw it. See what happens

[mellow zealot]

not sure its worth throwing allat away

i'd just say take a break uninstall

i took a 4month break and now i just play leisurely unless its events

anyway my stupid il10 for air and 9.0 tanks for GRB tactic still works

[eternal apex]

same i was gone for like 8 months and came back

[eternal apex]

i mean its no diff then playing any video game for half a day but you aint giving your steam account away just play for fun if anything

[sleek fractal]

Playing Warthunder is the most fun if you just dont care

And ersatz M10 just look on the market

should be a cheap ass coupon if it drops rn

I need that one too

[swift tartan]

Honestly, ever since I started caring less the game became so much fun

[spark spindle]

Pick ISU152 make big hole in Sherman, life is good. Chill for 30s.

[ruby rain]

https://youtu.be/1cMalKP4c4s

[mellow zealot]

bru

gotta be fuckin kidding me of all things to drop i get like one of my 3 premiums

[tepid slate]

guys what should i buy yak-38 or mig-21S?

[hollow pelican]

Buy some drinks instead

[crude ruin]

buy kebab

[short bolt]

find whats wrong with the picture

[gray thicket]

mig21s

[swift tartan]

At least you have +470k sl profit

[mellow zealot]

meh idrc with that 1 year premium i will just get a shitload of money

i want vehicles

[hollow steeple]

T95 nuke with 500% booster

[swift tartan]

guys

I am close

[fallen sparrow]

Me when my HEATFS exploding by catching a pixel of a fence

[spark spindle]

Hello, Close.

[swift tartan]

I am Closer now

[mellow zealot]

[swift tartan]

10.3 is hell right now

[hollow pelican]

Because of the BMPT?

[swift tartan]

yep

also

I came

[hollow pelican]

Now you get the PARS

[swift tartan]

yep

but the starting loadout

is

amazing

[fallen sparrow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/qE9Dn0AYgh0?si=kkB144OlDxwtfPHW

AK12 is USSR is insane

Muh realistic off the chart

[cold lichen]

I got in tooooooo

[ruby rain]

If you're invited do you have to do bug reports or fill out a questionnaire?

[cold lichen]

Questionnaire? Probably not, but bug reporting would also be encouraged but not enforced

[gray thicket]

when will my glorious j10c get buffed 😡😡

[cold lichen]

Never! Its the age of the frenchies!

[sleek fractal]

Tbh if you join a test and dont report bugs you encounter your a cunt cause thats the whole reason of the test

I got access too

Suprise

[spark spindle]

Well, looks like I will get to enjoy human interaction. RIP access.

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[short bolt]

i also got access to it but i cant find it in events tab?

[glad badger]

twink.

korean twink.

why is flop on my screen

[ruby rain]

Toughest SK male

[glad badger]

how is the CBT anyways?

[glad badger]

tons of "femboys" will be easy to spot with it slathered all over their tanks and so on

[ruby rain]

They deserve getting a fat one dropped on they head

[glad badger]

what do you mean by that..

[ruby rain]

FAB-5000

[mellow zealot]

can anyone else just not find a match at 10.3 at all

i can matchmake for legit 2 mins and nothing

[ruby rain]

You playing USSR?

[mellow zealot]

yes

[ruby rain]

well there ya go. Try a different nation (and a different br)

[gray thicket]

NOOO

[swift tartan]

So I have to update even if I wasn't selected for the cbt?

[hollow steeple]

When did oxy dye his hair

[mellow zealot]

i wonder if they'll allow more and more people into the cbt gradually

my ass was NOT accepted 💔

[gray thicket]

lol

[mellow zealot]

can't wait for this to happen but for the mig25

the grind is surprisingly not that bad

and its nice that its just all goals instead of having to grind 500k

for the coupons

[gray thicket]

fr

[mellow zealot]

i've just been doing battlepass tasks with those italian vehicles and 3 fighter kills and the italian bf 109 premium feels okay to play with

meanwhile doing the grind

for tanks i've kept it mostly 9.0 but that's cuz i'm grinding all the nations ig lolm

if i feel like going a bit easier i go to like 7.7 france but my god all my teammates are retarded half the matches

me with 9 kills and seeing the rest got the same amount of kills in TOTAL

[gray thicket]

i been mostly playing the mirage 3c

love sending magic 2s at 9.0 aircraft

[mellow zealot]

don't like high tier jets much

i grinded the su25 without premium and ever since then i've had enough

i wish the yak28b was 8.7 the fact that i can go up against phantoms is hilarious

stock grind for that thing is horrendous even with premium i barely get shit cuz people just hop in a su7 and dont break their wings lol

if people didnt steal bases it'd be okay but without weapon maintenance the spread is horrendous and you have to be at like 3km high to go mach1 for people to not steal your shit

i guess catching clueless people off guard with the 9.3 mig 21 is fun but i dont know how to play those jets for shit

[gray thicket]

why su25😭

[mellow zealot]

honestly i dont even know

[gray thicket]

i prefer mig 19 over the 9.3 mig 21

[mellow zealot]

my friend told me its good so i went for it

[gray thicket]

nahhh

[mellow zealot]

well yea the guns make it easier

i don't really wanna go higher br in jets anyway

[gray thicket]

and you can win in almost every dogfight

[gray thicket]

true

[mellow zealot]

been a while since i played mig 19 i forgot how to play it lol

i told myself i'd use the su25 in ground but i dont use cas at anything above like 8.3

if at all

[short bolt]

can you please give thread link good sire

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I cant cause this screenshot is all i have

[swift tartan]

leave michael jackson alone

[fluid trout]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1083840355566366791/1453125836864491550/vlc-record-2025-12-23-15h41m56s-War_Thunder_2025.12.23_-_15.41.28.05.DVR.mp4-.mp4?ex=694c5065&is=694afee5&hm=137a62a3400c8319a6169fc780d132d31f1f72163295856c5ae64125e143f37d&

they don't wanna see me succeed

it was FUCKING ON TOP OF HIM GAIJIN

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thats a small nuke

[fluid trout]

budget cuts

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from the free cupcake

[proper stag]

Gajijn please

[short bolt]

this is the stupidest kill ive gotten

[swift tartan]

welp guess Ill just farm alone

[ruby rain]

Petard?

[short bolt]

7.0 british bias machine, centurion mk5 avre

petard has a max range of 150 i think

it might be the worst tank in the game but i love playing it

[glad badger]

they always disappear after so long, never staying long enough for full amount

[swift tartan]

this is the first time they left in 20 games

[glad badger]

smh

ngl

hope gaijin give us free cool tank or something for chrima this year

[swift tartan]

we have an event ongoing rn

[swift tartan]

a little bit more

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[proper stag]

aren't they lowkey garbage

they were pretty mid before spaa update

[swift tartan]

Nah it shouldn't be an issue

You just pop from cover fire and the forget

Boom no more AA

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Pars are good just the range is ass

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Infantry is fun

[short bolt]

its an enlisted clone

[fallen sparrow]

Its literally

Enlisted april fools joke but said again outloud

[sleek fractal]

Your loss

My win

[short bolt]

the 5 enlisted fans are eating good rn

[swift tartan]

Delulu

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Its a cbt for a reason

My feedback goes directly to them

I mostly adressed inertia,movement,recoil,weapon damage,how armor works.

If you wont provide feedback to them they wont change shit

Thats why enlisted is kinda shit

Bmpt is now 10.7

Booooooo

[short bolt]

the reason why enlisted is shit is because of ai squads and i think people screamed at gaijin enough

[proper stag]

10.7 apds ❤️❤️❤️

[swift tartan]

Make it 11.0 and I am happy

[gray thicket]

give china one

cuz

yes

and

make it 9.7

cuz yes

🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

[short bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-credit-social-уважение-плюс-уважение-gif-1626328442317885176

[eternal apex]

i think infantry will be cool at the very least its free so no harm done if you dont like it

[swift tartan]

smol visual improvements for the tigor

[sleek fractal]

I do like the infantry squads cause i hate people that think everything must be sweaty and competetive

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China had one before russia

And its horrible

Also currently,its CBT for a reason,its very unpolished,unfinished and broken

If i go into detail,its weak

They need to work a lot on it

More reason to talk to people and get everyone to post the same feedback we agree on

Thos aint enlisted,so make it less shit

[short bolt]

i mean i love squad and that game is not a sweat fest but it simply doesnt have the ai squads

[swift tartan]

the ai squads make it unique

[sleek fractal]

Nobody lost a word about Squad.Why mention it? They finaly need to fix Vehicle damage models

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I thought i had a stroke when i whipped out on AI mates lmg cause movement was heavily delayed

Probably to show how heavy that m249 is

[swift tartan]

man I want to join the testing as well

gaijooble is racist

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this phase is only til tomorrow

[swift tartan]

oh damn

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Next phase hopefully be better

[swift tartan]

new phases = more testers, right?

[sleek fractal]

Yep

[swift tartan]

[gray thicket]

hmpf

[sleek fractal]

Its not my fault china produced shit

It even has dart ammo and spikes and still is worse

[swift tartan]

china has a spike carrier?

[short bolt]

kv-1b looking at me like green goblin mask sooo expensive just to seal club level 1s

[gray thicket]

it’s not even that bad tho

[swift tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[mellow zealot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/929875784141774909/1453435211210690684/image.png?ex=694d7085&is=694c1f05&hm=4fe185369c61c9bdb68c269e42aaec586fa11ec0347813f1ea184b055e5f26ac&

this has shafted me

it's deserved but i also loved this tank

now i have to go up against very annoying things

[swift tartan]

we are in the same boat

they did the same to my beloved 2K

[proper stag]

is the swedish t80u still 11.3 ?

[glad badger]

2nd open, tf

how am i supposed to know what i got..

it didnt tell me

[cold lichen]

Just look brother

Could be baller

[glad badger]

i have

i've checked all fleets, tanks and aircraft

I FOUND WHAT I GOT

and

idk if its considered good since i dont play this nation...

PLEASE TELL ME ITS GOOD

i was hoping for an american heli

or something

@cold lichen

[cold lichen]

Its pretty good, the challengers are concider one the the better nato tanks, with great turret armor but horrible hull armor, so if your play style is a lot more reserved, you should get some good ass games

[glad badger]

ah alr

[cold lichen]

But don't expect Abrams or Leo mobility tho

[glad badger]

ah

well opened another one for fun annndd... uh

panzer 3 is a nice addition to my collection i suppose

[proper stag]

LMFAOOOO

one of the worst prems in the game i think

it's only good if u are hulldown

[glad badger]

well it did well against some moron in a T80 on a com server, so i'll take my chances i suppose

[proper stag]

yeah i was exaggerating sorry it's not the worst prem in the game

but out of the top tier ones it certainly fairs poorly

[sleek fractal]

Look in the item section where the battle reports are

Also Challengers

Worst top tier tanks,Abrams got 42% winrate but are overall better than Challengers

[visual ember]

Challengers are pretty fun though

[sleek fractal]

Slowest,worst mobility,worst guns and worst armor of all top tiers

Doesnt mean their unplayable

[mellow zealot]

just played 12 matches as france 7.7 and every single one was a full uptier

this is really not enjoyable

[sleek fractal]

Skill isdue

France 7.7 has 54% winrate

Other nations 46-49%

54,5%

[mellow zealot]

so what

"but the statistics!!!!" okay

i dont wanna go u pagainst T-62s and gepards

i dont wanna go against m60 rises

object 122... etc

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I see no issue with french vehicles their great and they can compete against them easily

[mellow zealot]

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Theres a reason they got 6% better winrates than other nations in that br range

[glad badger]

there has to be some sorta chud or soyjak meme about "this graph tells me everything"

dawg- winrates and shit are for nerds- its about skill

[mellow zealot]

i dont caare about winrate bro fuck me

[sleek fractal]

Nah but winrates speak for themself

[mellow zealot]

im saying its not enjoyable getting constatnly uptiered

[glad badger]

i play for fun

[sleek fractal]

For you

[mellow zealot]

holy fuck

[sleek fractal]

Ofc getting uptiered constantly is no fun

[glad badger]

and while having fun, i WIN

[sleek fractal]

But thsts not a vehicle issue

Its a matchmaking issue rn

As always when sales are

[mellow zealot]

when did i claim it was a vehicle issue

i said its just not fun being uptiered

[glad badger]

its a you issue if you rely on metas and "winrates" like its league of legends

[sleek fractal]

When you specified france 7.7

[mellow zealot]

cuz thats what i was playing

im playing 8.7 now and got another full uptier

[sleek fractal]

You know what helps when something annoys you?

Take a break from it

[mellow zealot]

grind event

[sleek fractal]

Dont grind,play for fun

Event does itself

[mellow zealot]

hell no it wont lol

[sleek fractal]

Yes,it does

All you gotta do is play

Badicly does itself

Be happy its not specified objectives anymore

[mellow zealot]

40k mission wont reasonably do itself

[sleek fractal]

Yes it does

[mellow zealot]

my god you're insufferable whatever man

[sleek fractal]

Cause you only gotta play normaly

Your strsight up retarded then

You dont get it

Capture 20 bases doesnt do itself

Play for 2 hours to get 40k points does itself

One requires specified effort

The other doesnt

God gajiin bring back is7 events

120hours in 2 weeks playing

Gambling and luck included

Now people just gotta play,spend some time and even then they cry about it

But im insufferable

I would be pissed too if someone told me im bad with the best vehicles in the game

I hope you blocked me by now

[sleek fractal]

Next Infantry CBT should be early 2026

They invite more testers

For the one now it was a few hundred selected players

Also we get Leopard2A7A1,T-15 and F16XL for sure

[swift tartan]

More peak from gaijooble

[ruby rain]

What is Hummel?

[sleek fractal]

German 2.ww spg

That thing

[ruby rain]

Kinda like a Nashorn

[sleek fractal]

Nashorn just as SPG and shorter

[ruby rain]

Great

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https://forum.warthunder.com/t/revising-the-rate-of-fire-of-the-t-64-t-80-72-ztz96-ztz99-series-and-vt4-vt4a1-tanks/294966

That will hit hard

Reload buffs

[ruby rain]

Total Soviet bias!

[spark spindle]

Man, I am so glad modern stuff doesn't interest me

[sleek fractal]

They reload as fast as a Leopard Ace crew lol

Leopards need the Abrams buff to 5s for Ace now

[swift tartan]

[cold lichen]

Or, they should just fucking stay with their word, as they stated, fire rate is a "Soft state" and for balance, should stay 7.1 for T-series tanks and 6-5 for NATO tanks

[swift tartan]

is this worth it?

or should I keep my leo more mobile

[sleek fractal]

wasnt ever worth it on the Swedish leos

keep it more mobile to be honest

[sleek fractal]

This,but the community complaints and voting wins again for retard stuff

As per usual

[swift tartan]

oke, will do

my top tier lineup is almost complete

I am missing the AA

[sleek fractal]

not bad

i still need the last AA too

[swift tartan]

fat fuck

[cold lichen]

27 ton FATASS

[swift tartan]

how well can it counter russian cas?

specifically the su33 and su34

[sleek fractal]

very well just like all the other higher AA´s

unless the pilot hugs trees but thats obvious

[swift tartan]

so my team mates suck

[sleek fractal]

at least its not american teams

42% winrates

i mean i dont even care anymore but losing every single match cause the germain meme is now over to playing US just isnt fun

[swift tartan]

german mains are filtered after 6.0

[sleek fractal]

yep

I switched back to RU so the buff to top tier is welcoming but still dumb

[swift tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/im-used-to-it-kevinmcgarry-gif-24340485

both my leos have 7 second reload

[sleek fractal]

i mean might change

[swift tartan]

hopefully

[sleek fractal]

im eager to get 2A7A1

2026 be fun

i hope we get more Leo kits

[swift tartan]

hopefully foldered

[sleek fractal]

probably like the 1A2 SEP abrams

[ruby rain]

2A8

[swift tartan]

kf41 as well

[sleek fractal]

might aswell

Russia gets a T-15 for sure

i would be happy with a TT Boxer and the KF41 yeah

My info so far just includes 2A7A1 and T-15

[swift tartan]

kf51 when

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and the other stuff i posted

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this

[ruby rain]

Also JP ship with railgun

[swift tartan]

[sleek fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/lionking-simba-baby-simba-throw-off-throw-from-cliff-gif-2491760533743383368

[ruby rain]

Who?

[sleek fractal]

p!who

[willow herald]

⠀

[sleek fractal]

HIM GET OUT XD

we wont get Kf51

[ruby rain]

Why not?

[sleek fractal]

cause we get the other stuff first

i doubt we get new Abrams or the T-14

[ruby rain]

I see

[swift tartan]

One can dream

[sleek fractal]

yeah i dream too but i learned i rather go by files found on the dev xD

Cause even then vehicles can sit 14 years in the files

[swift tartan]

how is the new eurofighter?

[sleek fractal]

its holidays

didnt have time to unlock it yet

if they fixed its radar according to report tickets,its great.

[swift tartan]

I dont think that ill get it any time soon

420k rp for a new radar and new bombs isnt very nice

[sleek fractal]

me neither cause im currently investing more time testing infantry and writing feedback there

[swift tartan]

fair enough

[sleek fractal]

also im far behind unlocking stuff anyway and my trees look like riddled with termites

holes everywhere

i need to lock in and finaly finish the big 3 again

[swift tartan]

my goal is to fully research germany

except coastal

[sleek fractal]

fuck naval tbh

good for grinding SL though

[swift tartan]

I like some of the ships

the PSO looks so cool

if only the thermals didnt suck balls

[sleek fractal]

i love this skin

[swift tartan]

wtlive delivering as always

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ma postfx

[sleek fractal]

wait wait wait wait

its that one

this one for the PSO is love

[swift tartan]

[gray thicket]

funni

free premium is quite nice

especially a chinese one ofc🤑

[sleek fractal]

it has 12,7s on 2.0 right ?

[swift tartan]

bro is paid by the chinese gov

[sleek fractal]

he always is

but thats why they got the shit terminator and cant have the cool stuff

another chinese leak with ruin the CCP

[swift tartan]

what terminator?

or they will get it in the future?

[sleek fractal]

https://wiki.warthunder.com/unit/cn_qn506

that thing

[swift tartan]

ooooh

that

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Chinese terminator

[swift tartan]

it looks so goofy

[sleek fractal]

its an ok vehicle due spikes

if it had proper ATGM´s it would be great

well "spike" equivalent obviously

[swift tartan]

A spike that likes going over targets

[sleek fractal]

[swift tartan]

200 mm pen atgms

peak

[gray thicket]

yup

[sleek fractal]

sweet

[gray thicket]

is that my glorious qn 🤑

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BMPT from wish and She in

[gray thicket]

feels a bit sluggish but turns quitte well

[gray thicket]

😔

nice camo

13.7 in a pretty good position

free kills 🤑

got more kills than all of the f2's 😔

[fallen sparrow]

I gave up on air battle lmao

F that shit

[gray thicket]

lol

[gray thicket]

what br do you play

[fallen sparrow]

7.0

Thats Ground

My air didnt even pass 1.3

[gray thicket]

new to air?

I can teach ya some if you’d like

[fallen sparrow]

Actually im air 2.3 but I used the worst nation for air engagement

Well atleast for prop planes

[short bolt]

japan?

[fallen sparrow]

US

[short bolt]

what?

us is like insanely good

you just out energy everything except spitfires

[gray thicket]

I mean us ain’t the worst but

I’d go for the BEST air tech tree if I were you

which is

china ofc

dont you want

russian

AND

American

things in ONE

[short bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-social-credit-score-meme-john-xina-gif-23649557

[gray thicket]

tech tree

🥹

[fallen sparrow]

Man I am absolutely getting wrecked off by every single other nation

And nothing I did help me w it

[gray thicket]

hmm

[short bolt]

time to watch defyns guide

[gray thicket]

real

ok ok cup

show me your air tech tree if you can

[short bolt]

like japan is literally the most overtiered air nation because people just turn fight you

[gray thicket]

real

[short bolt]

i got energy trapped by a level 7 spitfire enjoyer and i am 100 percent sure it wasnt intentional

[gray thicket]

China is a good beginner tech tree for air, Japanese turn fighters and some good climbers

[gray thicket]

trust the process 🥹

[gray thicket]

mediocre mid tier tho

[short bolt]

china might be the sleeper pick nation just good overall just some parts can be rough but french is like the best nation up until top tier

[gray thicket]

fr

loving French air

[short bolt]

mirage 2000 slaps or at least it does because everytime i die it is m2000

[gray thicket]

yess

what I love is that china also gets one, makes me feel happy that I don’t have to always ration my countermeasures

ive mostly been grinding the event with the mirage 3c and j7d

easiest buck im gonna make this event

[fallen sparrow]

P-41 is the highest plane I reached

[short bolt]

you are not gonna use the m25?

[fallen sparrow]

I use a french plane for france 1.0 GR rn

Its so fun

I just cant shoot anything thats not open top

[gray thicket]

idk tbh

if it’s not gonna be more than 20, I will

[gray thicket]

okay okay

[gray thicket]

hmm

okay so

if you have the p36, French one or not that’s up to you

use that one to learn the basics

its a balanced one

I’d recommend watching YouTube videos

but

if you got questions or sum js lmk

[short bolt]

https://youtu.be/mSH7c-WyTU0?si=5JyYmy6X6rzfMaST

[gray thicket]

yesss

[short bolt]

well i think this isnt the best starting point

[gray thicket]

true

[short bolt]

considering energy then aiming comes first but i dont know thow to share the playlist

[gray thicket]

p36 can do that, there are others but they aren’t necessarily easy/beginner friendly

he100 would be a good introduction to energy fighting, since you don’t wanna get hit at all in that thing, while having op performance

@fallen sparrow for now, just watch some tutorials, if you don’t get the hang of it or you got questions, feel free to ask

[fallen sparrow]

I mean the only problem I have is

How the hell do you shake off ppl

Now if someone got behind me I am always end up dead fish in the water

If I head on I am also fish dead in water

"Higher altitude gives you more energy" well yeh a friendly BF109 can just till its head slightly up and drop me out of 4000m high

I found playing Tanks way easier to outplay ppl

Plane not so much

[gray thicket]

on some aircraft it’s not possible, but you should usually try to make them overshoot by decreasing your engine throttle and hoping he’ll wiff his shots.

[gray thicket]

not every aircraft is good at climbing, so you gotta pick good ones out.

[fallen sparrow]

I usually get shot down before they overshoot it also pisses me off

[gray thicket]

you can prevent this by maintaining a high speed at most times

you don’t really wanna engage in furballs (main fight)

I ALWAYS just pick good/op aircraft and just out climb ppl

[short bolt]

fyi spitfires might be the best overall aircraft

[gray thicket]

maybe

i prefer ki 44

[fallen sparrow]

Shin din

[swift tartan]

the PARS are so fun

[swift tartan]

I have a question regarding helis, if I finish the heli tt, will the xp I get with helis in grb go towards the ground tt?

[glad badger]

dude- i tried hitting a sick clip but got smoked still, i tried xd

i popped smoke to feint, making him think i was gonna go the route for free kill

early abrams vs T80bvm

[sleek fractal]

nice try though

like that should have penned the mantlet and damaged breach

[short bolt]

i forgot how broken tanks were, like having an actual ammo instead of a fucky hesh round might be illegal

i just point and shoot free nukes

[sleek fractal]

Overpressure is fucked,you be suprised how well HEAT and Hesh works for that sometimes

Volumetric is fucked

Volumetric was the 2nd rework

They should make a 3rd

[swift tartan]

Can gaijin be considered AAA?

[short bolt]

depends on their studio size and also money

[sleek fractal]

Yes they can

Reason:

[glad badger]

what is up with early sorta actual sabot- its a 291mm pen and honestly feels like am rocking pebbles at someone sometimes

like, my first shot at him it looked like it split up into 3 things????

(will be honest, i know FAR more about jets and dogfighting than i do tanks despite having more time in tanks than jets)

[sleek fractal]

Its kinda like APCR but less flat surface dependend

They nerved apds to shit kinda against angled armor

I rather use APHE at 9.0 than apds

Like you got 300mm pen it woopy doooo

220mm pen on APHE are more than enough and more devastating

Talking about 9.0 russians in that regard

On leopard 1s and so on you got no other choice than using apds besides HEAT

[glad badger]

yeah but T80's like the B is plastered to hell with ERA

which is AIDS for HEAT

also to make matters worse new patch dropped

but am glad this is fixed

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but T80B territory is APDFS AKA Darts

Not APDS aka Sabot

[glad badger]

ahh okay

[sleek fractal]

Yeah the darts are also discarding Sabot but their far from the early concept you have from like 7.7 til 10.0

The Dart Sabot is peak

That one not so great despite high pen value,not much spalling and damage

That one high pen,high spalling damage

Apds vs apdfds

Also russian early apdfds sucks also

Around 9.7 10.7 but you research better ones quick

[glad badger]

also just realised

that bvm is 2 tiers higher..

and i got gaijin'd hard

[sleek fractal]

[sleek fractal]

Russia 9.0 eating good

Russia 10.7 is better though xD

[sleek fractal]

279 definetly not broken

[swift tartan]

The clanker is right

[cold lichen]

Aaaand

Ofc they buffed the reloads of T-series tanks...

(Im bunching the chinese into here cause they are T-series tanks just china-fied)

[short bolt]

the clanker knows all my pain facing bmp garbage in leopard 1

[swift tartan]

Bmps are food

Always happy to see one

[short bolt]

not in a leo 1 in 1a1 yeah the lack of stab is the issue

[gray thicket]

amx 30 🤑🤑

brenus goated tho

[fallen sparrow]

Me when AMX13, M4, 50, Surbaisse, Surblinde

Dont evem get me started w the fking Somua

[hollow pelican]

poetic

[serene birch]

iykyk

[hollow pelican]

I do not

I only know Ace Combat from their music

Heard the lore is as obfuscated as Death Stranding or Dark Soul games

[serene birch]

that quote is from the beginning of AC4

[hollow pelican]

What a coincidence

[serene birch]

baller series

you could always try an emulator for the older titles, they still hold up even if the visuals left a little to be desired

[hollow pelican]

Gotcha

[serene birch]

arcadey, fun, as you already know a killer soundtrack

[hollow pelican]

Yeah

You don't wanna critique every detail and apply real world logic to it

ruins the fun

[serene birch]

yeah ive seen some people complain about the arcade aspect of it

"wahwahwah why does the f-5 carry 40 missiles"

[hollow pelican]

Its a video game

You're supposed to suspend your disbelief

[serene birch]

some people cant grasp that apparently

[hollow pelican]

Yeah the desire to become overcritical stems from something else

something deeper, perhaps repressed within

[sleek fractal]

Its not

The story is mostly just bad

[hollow pelican]

ah

[serene birch]

oh i entirely missed that lol

yeah if you stand far away and squint its got good lore

its more interesting as a plot more than anything, but they fail to really tell a story for most of the games

[swift tartan]

HAWX>Ace combat

[serene birch]

EUGH

https://tenor.com/view/theres-the-door-j-jonah-jameson-gif-1024645016167485706

[swift tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-kiryu-yakuza-yakuza-kiwami-2-24h-cinderella-gif-6980562704990738112

Ace cumbat sucks

[serene birch]

hawx was just an ace combat wannabe

with a very very very cliche story

me army man, army sux, cool pmc, i join, pmc evil, i go back to army, i win

[swift tartan]

It has a story?

Also idk what kind of story you expect from a plane combat game

[serene birch]

ace combats stories are pretty sad but theyre still miles better than hawx

[swift tartan]

Meh

If I play a game like that, then I play it for the gameplay not story

[serene birch]

i mean fair but stories are good to actually help you along with it

though there are some good indie games in that style without a story

theres 1 i dont remember the name of (played it years and years ago) it was a roguelike

[swift tartan]

Fair enough

To each their own

[hollow pelican]

Any other games with "serious plane lore" ?

[serene birch]

a little unheard of game

war thunder

real gangstas know air arcade used to have mini lore to the maps

[hollow pelican]

Insane

I guess the lore for war thunder nowadays is the amount of technical data leaks

[serene birch]

sadly

[swift tartan]

It does have a campaign mode

Unless it got removed

But I think that it's paid

[serene birch]

historical campaign rather than its own little lore but yeah

[sleek fractal]

Warthunder still has dynamic and historical singleplayer campaigns

Their just lackluster

[hollow steeple]

maybe I reinstall adter new years

[gray thicket]

maybe

play china

[bleak stag]

(

[swift tartan]

I swear most cas players are so dum dum

I killed 4 of them with spikes in a heli

Not even aams

[gray thicket]

heh

[sleek fractal]

today i sprayed most with guns at BR 10.7

didnt even need rockets

[swift tartan]

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt since it was a night battle

[serene birch]

figured i'd do another ace combat one, how could i not do our boy mihaly

[fallen sparrow]

I PULL UP IN MA BUGATTI

[fallen sparrow]

grinded Sherman and Pershing

just to get back in Sherman grind

the Sherman grind never stop i stg

[eternal apex]

sherman is eternal

[rain lily]

If it ain't broke don't fix it

Yuck, cast hull sherman

[ruby rain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1023400350717317211/1454819027636457503/image.png?ex=6953220d&is=6951d08d&hm=ecddb16d4ec933567b2c887a785097068a36d9f912a4fe6e41f5f145ff56a0b7&

[mellow zealot]

another day another policy of no money for gaijin

[serene birch]

based purchase tho

[fallen sparrow]

Somua Somua

[ruby rain]

https://youtu.be/zZOHQhrEtLw

Honestly this is an acceptable cheat

It's like breaking a law for a morally good purpose

@sleek fractal

[sleek fractal]

oh damn xD

thats cool

but you get banned for abusing such glitches

soooooo thats not so cool.

[mellow zealot]

the rafale not being taken out was hilarious

[ruby rain]

CAS bias

[mellow zealot]

true true

[cold lichen]

One thing Ill say is, ofc gaijins shitty anti cheat is dogshit enough to allows this to happen LMAO

[fallen sparrow]

What w the HEAT FS being so inconsistent

Like it non pen the most flat part

And in the protection analysis shows it should pen it

[ruby rain]

the protection analysis is completely unreliable

[fallen sparrow]

The shell non pen a side of a tiger once and idk how the fuck

It should be an easy ammo rack but naw

Sometimes it completely obliterate entire crew

Sometimes it doesnt even pen a light tank

Had HEAT FS bounce off a chinese M18 and I never know that is even possible

[cold lichen]

But it isnt about being "morally good" or "morally bad"
Its just wrong, using a cheat like this ruins the game for both side, "but but, fuck the cas player!!!1!!", well how about the other AAs on his team that got knocked early but could come back if they kill a plane/heli. I meab yeah, the guy is actually dogshit as an AA player (which also contributes to the cas problem), or the enemy SPAA, whos missiles are being shot out of the sky by said cheater, allowing free for their team to have complete cas domination.
Its just not cool

[cold lichen]

Server vs client

Cause why the FUCK

IS IT CLIENT SIDE

WHEN I NEED THE SERVER SIDE DATA

[ruby rain]

Man...
I (Panther) once shot at the side of a T-34 but a barrel of a wreck was in teh way and the shot didn't kill him. Then he (the T-34) shot at me through the SAME WRECK BARREL and his shell then penned the ANGLED PART of my side while my hull was approx 45 degrees from him and he killed me instantly.

The rng bias is fucking diabolical

I wouldn't even be so blatant if I tried to make up an example

[mellow zealot]

i think this is a low caliber heat issue

whenever i used the amx 13 90 heat it was dogshit even though it was heatfs

the df105 105 NORMAL heat in turn does insane damage, i even overpressure the maus

it's typically also an issue with overlaps such as sideskirts

i've hit many times with the heatfs right above the track or otherwise in the track and it desnt go through

(side on)

[fallen sparrow]

90mm is low cal

Man im so cook3d

[sleek fractal]

Its a glitch,not a hack or something

Ofc anti cheat wont jump up and ban people when something is wrong with the games code

aside easy anti cheat being shit which is a fact

[cold lichen]

[sleek fractal]

what i find extremely weird,you as a player are not allowed to publish videos of cheats

you are not allowed to name and shame

heres gaijin publishing names of banned players and slapping a big fat BANNED on their profile picture ingame'

[cold lichen]

Is that a EU thing or?

[sleek fractal]

its in their EULA

user agreement

just like account sharing and so on

[cold lichen]

Ofc lmaoooo

[sleek fractal]

it was funny cause someone wanted to sell their account on the Esports discord and theres gaijin employees on the Server

dude basicly said theres no such thing in the agreement

[cold lichen]

[sleek fractal]

didnt take 30 Minutes and he was banned

ingame and from the server since he wanted to sell his account

retardation 110%

[fallen sparrow]

Wait

This is not the same Ted we have known and loved?

[sleek fractal]

no

Its not el gamblero

[fallen sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-fast-gif-18043850

[cold lichen]

No

[sleek fractal]

Cuppy like half a year late with the realisation

https://warthunder.com/en/news/9810-fair-play-fair-play-november-2025-en

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/2/d/e/2PACX-1vSb9OfOUuFsZCv4_nOXdE-okkWblZ0B06X7rIX1bUJr11KsZCiHd1BaHDrBiTvFMRVWH_HAYTUkOdZm/pubhtml?gid=13761728&single=true

[fallen sparrow]

I cant accept his passing

[sleek fractal]

Rubber Duck 98 was banned

now lets look his profile up

who would have thought

naming and shaming xD

[sleek fractal]

me neither

ohhh boi

account is from 2013

holy old account xD

[cold lichen]

who btw?

[sleek fractal]

another Ted

[cold lichen]

[sleek fractal]

rich,wholesome person

[cold lichen]

Ohhhh

[sleek fractal]

we loved his food posts and bias

[fallen sparrow]

He mostly loves food

[sleek fractal]

he left cause this discord takes a toll on everyone xD

[fallen sparrow]

When did he leave btw

[sleek fractal]

over half a year ago

[cold lichen]

So I walk in the shadow of a great man...

[fallen sparrow]

Huh

I am hella sure it was not half a year ago

Time flies that fast?

[sleek fractal]

yes

[fallen sparrow]

ah damn

[fallen sparrow]

WOO YEHHH BABY

[sleek fractal]

Secret nerfs

[short bolt]

those external belts ate 120mm apfsds rounds side on btw

[mellow zealot]

honestly yes

its also why the pt76 can feel dogshit at times

i've nonpenned tiger fronts with it lol

heat feels most effective from 100+

[cold lichen]

Its so cool in concept but would instantly die as a mobility kill :(

[gray thicket]

RAHHHHHH

CHINA NUMBER ONE

🇨🇳

(they spent all their funds on military exercises so they decided to compensate me like this 🥹 )

[fallen sparrow]

Poor Cambodia

Having to fight a OLOPT with T55

[crude ruin]

what is so special about it?

[sleek fractal]

Nothing

Just a decoration

Ive got the golden ak

[crude ruin]

gae

[gray thicket]

china

[crude ruin]

china? who is that?

[gray thicket]

the best country in existance 🇨🇳 🙏

[crude ruin]

never heard of that nation

some country in afrika ?

[gray thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/china-scream-if-you-love-china-scream-if-you-love-country-brock-lesnar-gif-4232401349897427919

[glad badger]

duuude..

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-finland-finland-i-love-finland-scream-finland-finland-scream-gif-496655312649171179

[sleek fractal]

Thats a nice one

[mellow zealot]

i hate fighting that thing fuc kme

nice catch

[fallen sparrow]

france speedrun has been

HMMMM

quite iinteresting

[gray thicket]

amx m4 is goated trust

[mellow zealot]

god i hate all the amx13 derivatives

ay it finally happened

not very good but its something

its like 15 gaijin coin surprisingly

[gray thicket]

fuckass maps

[hollow pelican]

T-90A 1G46 Optical Sight

[sleek fractal]

Its a rare plane

[mellow zealot]

At 10 this is shit but 9.3 (downtier no less) it's okay

[mellow zealot]

I noticed

Legit never seen this ebfirr

Before

[short bolt]

you are one step away from greatness a.k.a arl44 it chews through jumbos

[glad badger]

https://tenor.com/view/game-gif-2929360343905304205

also- when tf did i get this????

did i get lucky again but not realise it?

[sleek fractal]

[spark spindle]

the french tank in US coat.

[gray thicket]

oh well

[mellow zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/money-burn-cash-shoveling-gif-5348644

gambling SL is fine but the GE crate is fucking stupid

[mellow zealot]

oh you got the good one too

wait that has 1500hp???

fuck me

no wonder i got sniped by it today while in a df105 and it was somehow in position faster than me lol

[eternal apex]

i love warthunder chats youll never know what you get

[gray thicket]

real

[mellow zealot]

mig25 pedo ‼️

[glad badger]

i only threw 2 crates worth of GE on it and got lucky

[fallen sparrow]

I already got it

I just didnt assign crew cuz i dont want to have one 5.0 tank while still using 3.0 line up

[spark spindle]

When the Suchoi wants belly rubs.

[fallen sparrow]

M10 Gunner, Crank that souja boy

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-neon-genesis-evangelion-shinji-soulja-boy-rei-gif-26754648

[ruby rain]

[gray thicket]

who's gonna sell the mig25

[sleek fractal]

i will in 2 years

if its like previous christmas vehicles it wont be in a trophy

[gray thicket]

same

loving the mig25 spam

grinding with the pl5bs has never been so easy

[cold lichen]

With engines burning hotter then the sun, it'll keep aim-9Ls locked to it

[gray thicket]

real

[fallen sparrow]

Is the HEATFS Bugged in this game rn?

I shot a HEAT FS at an immobilized IS2 turret cheek and nothing happened

I shot the 2nd round at the same area and that round absolutely reduced everything inside it to atoms

[short bolt]

heat jet is extremely wonky and will occasionally do no damage and sometimes nuke people thats why a lot of people hate heat

[fallen sparrow]

I would use APHE for the M56 more if it doesnt do less than 200mm of pen

I cant Tiger 2 turret with 180mm of pen

[short bolt]

sadly it is pretty hard to deal with tiger 2 s with m56

[fallen sparrow]

Its pretty easy ngl

I just dont like how I cant front pen w normal ammo

But I absolutely rat w M56

Its funni and somehow I am very hard to kill

[short bolt]

well tiger 2 is in german tech tree they have no eyes

i literally lose my shit whenever i play germany some of my teammates must be ai because they are that bad

[fallen sparrow]

I have 2 stug couples drove past a Sherman

Like not even drove by the wall behind sherman

They drove behind the rear of an active sherman shooting at me (the stugs are my team)

One of them stop look left look right WHILE THE SHERMAN STILL SHOOTS ME

And drove off

And I was so flabbergasted

https://youtube.com/shorts/wsDzMcKaA-A?si=M3VZADIQaK6Uyyn3

[glad badger]

i did this to PROVE point.