🛩war-thunder

[ruby rain]

CA Lorraine and ELC bis, obviously

[cold lichen]

Im fucking retarded

And to anwser that, I have no clue

For I don't really know much about french tanks

Good response

[ivory garden]

goofy swedish 75mm inclinfarten

[ruby rain]

T32

[half falcon]

some of them are outdated

or just dont work

spookston one is now an oddbawz one

[sleek fractal]

Because gaijin changed most of them so they dont work on older accounts

The CC decals are not interesting anyway

I doubt you wanna buy something everytime

[half falcon]

why

[sleek fractal]

Cause they didnt find it funny when everyone got the SL and Premium vehicles

[sleek fractal]

What do you mean with the codes dont work

The CC ones all lead me to the shop with the 3% and the Decoration promotions are all new so they have to work.

[half falcon]

nah like i used the spookston code right

and got like 1 ge

and it gave me some other youtubers cc stuff

[sleek fractal]

Not possible

It states it supports spookston and that you get the decal

Might only be that the decal is outdated and he got a new one

[half falcon]

damn

[ruby rain]

apparently Petard bomb is too slow to trigger APS

[half falcon]

[sleek fractal]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8952-development-mpk-pr11451-shallow-water-domination-en

[soft oracle]

Ship

[strange mango]

i got my first 10.0

[strange mango]

120s

its ok cheeks eat shells

ya i clicked the wrong one and did not notice till i already had a good chunk of rp on it

[eternal zenith]

Hit

Hit

Hit

[eternal zenith]

it's so good

ahaha, shortbus abrams

[ruby rain]

The neck tho

[fallen sparrow]

Can a round travel down the gun barrel and detonate the round in chamber

[eternal zenith]

I think not

besides a few exceptions

most it'll do is destory the breech

[sleek fractal]

Yes it can

but you need a smaller caliber and the perfect angle

[fallen sparrow]

Cant be machine gun?

[sleek fractal]

nope

under normal gamplay circumstances near impossible

But you can try it out in a custom match

[eternal zenith]

Shells aren't even modeled like that in most tanks tho

[sleek fractal]

but you can shoot down the barrel til the Round hits the Breach and kill

[eternal zenith]

but that isn't the same as, for example, a 155 HE shell exploding while loaded and taking out the crew

[sleek fractal]

That is true but you can do that via Rockets or other mounted ammunitions

[eternal zenith]

speaking of mounted ammo, did they implement smokes exploding when shot?

[sleek fractal]

Yep

[eternal zenith]

[sleek fractal]

Thats one of the newer fancy schmancy perks they implemented lately

[sleek fractal]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8956-planned-technical-works-19062024-en

[hot hull]

There it be

[eternal zenith]

surely they refund the premium time

[hot hull]

They tend to, iirc

[ruby rain]

https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1802999402241396936

🇺🇦Ukrainian Front (@front_ukrainian) on X

⚡️Leopard 2A-RC 3.0 fires.

Twitter · Jun 18, 2024, 9:38 AM

[eternal zenith]

explain this bullshit to me

55k + 510% = 223k

[eternal zenith]

Why spread propaganda channels like that? There's no 2ARC on the front

or in other words: Rip the video and post that instead of making us go to twitter

[ruby rain]

[pseudo zealot]

The channel is just natoposting

It isnt a war update channel

[ivory garden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrwJEfCgabY
I spread swedish gameplay music

under blågul fana, norrlandsfarger, vasterbottens, etc...

[ivory garden]

there needs to be realistic tanks mode but with no planes

[ivory garden]

just not fun to spawn and then instantly get blown up by some diver bomber

[prisma nymph]

I'd rate Warthunder a score of 22.9189 / 100

[eternal zenith]

[sleek fractal]

No it doesnt,maps are not designed for that and massively flawed without

Also your playing a Game that advertises combined arms AND was focused only on Planes for years.

[eternal zenith]

that must be why they keep ruining maps further by blocking off any spots that might encourage creative thinking

nice elevated position giving you access to large parts of the map? better put a 24 second death zone there

the combined arms crap is pure cope tbh

then again I enjoy playing SPAA so I wouldn't choose a ground only mode very often

[sleek fractal]

Because without planes you couldnt counter it.

There was so many fun spots you could abuse where only a plane could killyou but you could kill the whole enemy team

Its better they block these spots

Also if they did that you can completely trash normal RB and you would need to rebalance BR's and basicly remove SPAA

[eternal zenith]

but you do see where I'm going right? We got combined arms, why the need for blocked spots? They do block spots so what's stopping them from doing ground only?
The answer is money obviously but there has to be a better way. This just looks lazy

we all know it won't happen. Still I won't stop bitching about a game that prints millions each year with what looks like very little effort put in

relatively speaking anyways

starstreak missiles are so much fun btw

[eternal zenith]

I think a ground only can be done "cheaply" by limiting maps specifically designed and balanced. Keep SPAAs maybe let them keep strike drones at higher BR as well as nuke planes (or come up with an even funnier thing like nuke tanks)

I always found the idea of a Abrams with a fusion bomb hilarious. Have depleted uranium armor which would act as a neutron booster stage, no turret just "drive to specified point" and boom

lower BR would allow you to deploy little Goliath mines like in the Sturmtiger event

Think we'll ever get this thing?

[sleek fractal]

Event

[eternal zenith]

really think so?

[hot hull]

The worst thing with cas in war thunder is that a certain nation has a god killing spaa that outrange basically everything, its name is Pantsir

The same nation has some of the best cas planes, one of which can carry ICBMs which also outrange everything

Su-25sm3

[eternal zenith]

wanted to say you can bait pantsirs into depleting their missiles but then I realized they got like 20km range

[hot hull]

and get like 12 of them

Enough to shoot down the moon

[sleek fractal]

The emote didnt get posted it was

[hot hull]

The pantsir was the most unecessary addition

they already had the Tunguska

The pantsir has no western equal as far as im aware

because of real world doctrine

[sleek fractal]

Yep even the Russian community said Pantsir was unnecessary

[hot hull]

My enemies are many, my equals are none - Pantsir-S1

Unless gaijin starts adding systems that are seperate launcher and radar we wont be seeing any reasonable counterpart, missile wise at least

[sleek fractal]

At least most Pantsir Players are stupid

And they still got not Thor

Unlike china

[hot hull]

The Tor is such a cool system though

[sleek fractal]

China got the Russian System before Russia

[hot hull]

love VLS

[eternal zenith]

funny thing with both Thor and Pantsir missiles is that they have nice range on paper but factor in altitudes higher than 5km and they bleed energy really fast. Plane coming in at 10km and the effective range drops to below 8km

with the VT1/Star streak/ADATS you can pretty much draw a dome around the range

I don't think that's taken into account ingame tho

[hot hull]

problem with the VT is that it goes insaneo mode and goes uncontrolable at long range

star streak is ass against anything except helis, even then russian helicopter flight models dont care if the tail is gone

ADATS is actually good tho

VT also got that guidance delay making it really bad against anything close

poor flarakrad truck

[eternal zenith]

imagine if they implemented networked targeting. Team member could spawn a SPAA, another could send up a drone feeding the targeting data, guide to helis beyond the horizon

would just become a shitfest of SPAA vs SPAA

[hot hull]

AWACS ai loitering afar datalinking everything

[eternal zenith]

spawn kill galore ala UDES33

[hot hull]

or a bunch of radar systems around the airfield feeding data to player controled launcher systems that lacks radar

would be one way to do it

[eternal zenith]

could be cool if multiple people tracking the same air target would see their targeting position. Cover more directions that way, guaranteed kill if 3 or more gepards were in play

[half falcon]

wish they'd add a toptier MLRS

[ivory garden]

anyways, my dislike of planes in realistic ground battles is a skill issue on my behalf (I suck at flying realistic planes and at shooting them down as AA without the reticle) but I don't think it's unfair to be mad when I get spawnkilled by dive bombers

I see in realistic ground that bombs have much shorter fuses, so it's much more difficult to flee

[half falcon]

the worst is when you get killed by a plane

and you check their stats

and they have ONE assist (minus ur death)

like thats somehow enough to spawn in a plane with bombs

[ivory garden]

it happens to me all the time, I get it when I'm in my open-top IKV or on my flatbed AA gun but in a medium tank it's stupid

with a fighter's machine gun

the bombers are annoying because they just spam spawns and you can't do anything

[ivory garden]

pretty much impossible upon further deaths to bombers

[eternal zenith]

in realistic fuses are defined by the player, in arcade you got predefined timers

[ivory garden]

makes sense

[eternal zenith]

setting them really long makes for some funny situations

[sleek fractal]

???????

You can change the delay on fuses since years

[ivory garden]

I’m very new to realistic

:(

[sleek fractal]

You can make it explode instant or after 20 seconds

Like fuze delay is very customisable

[ivory garden]

I’ve never really looked at the plane loadouts

I just take bomb types and go

but then again I only do air arcade

[sleek fractal]

And since im playing a lot of Air i know how hard it actualy is to connect bombs and missiles.Well eexcept for the laser guided stuff.

The laser guided stuff is ass

Its so easy to use

(I suck at using it)

I constantly lose lock due dodging of missiles

Most AA missiles are invisible to you in high br

You only get the radar warning IF the AA locks onto you

AND if your plane has a warning system

Dont forget,Update today.

Like im gonna grind that F4F Ice and will die a lot to BVR with my 29G

Fucking Fox3

[hot hull]

https://youtu.be/DIsdWN78JS4?si=pQXd61EFUeKRIK6G

[hot hull]

1.5s goated fuze

[serene birch]

???? its hella easy to aim bombs and rockets

[eternal zenith]

https://tenor.com/btifQ.gif

[half falcon]

"we will never sell top tier premiums"

"its 11.3 not 11.7, get over it"

[eternal zenith]

playing the new stuff requires you to wait for patch 2 of

[serene birch]

brutha eeeew whats that fucking UI

pretty certain hes been playing for a long time 😭

[half falcon]

who did they get to voice this

why he talkin like that

[hollow pelican]

I agree it sucks

[serene birch]

no i mean im p sure hes played since air was the only option kinda a long time

[serene birch]

i know (skill issue)

[sleek fractal]

Not fir the average WT player that doesnt play air

For me its easy

For Hubertus Klaus Blindsight it isnt

[rare phoenix]

av8b with amraams worth grinding?

[hot hull]

harriers has a great overall flight performance so Id think so

engine like to turn into slag though but im sure you are aware of that

[serene birch]

skill issue its still incredibly easy

[hot hull]

With ballistics computer, sure

Otherwise it can be tricky especially with rockets

[ruby rain]

CAS is 10% cure (killing players who camp from unreachable positions) and 90% poison (bombing and strafing players leaving the spawn and going to caps and otherwise 'enjoying' tank battles). Not to mention that the 'cure' is needed only due to Gaijin's own negligence relating to maps.
@sleek fractal
please
stop defending this dogshit with your "I was there when we only had planes, shut up".
The way a game used to be is no excuse for a badly designed separate gamemode now.

[hot hull]

Anyway yea cas should either be WAY more limited, removed from? or a seperate gamemode for combined arms

twice the spawn cost

Gaijin is never going to remove it outright

[sleek fractal]

Which is what im saying

[sleek fractal]

Its all designed around that,removing CAS will result in so many issues that you gotta redesign half of ground combat

Change the maps completely,remove SPAA,change BR's again

[serene birch]

ngl id be fine with them implementing the sorta naval battle style where youre restricted to a X amount of spawns of planes total. plus bumping up the cost of them SP wise, maybe implement the feature from AB as well where only like X amount can be up at one time

[sleek fractal]

That would be the easiest solution even.

If people say its to easy to spawn CAS i instantly agree

[serene birch]

i do agree CAS is far far far too easy to spawn into, literally just 1 cap can get you enough to bring a decent payload to kill a few tanks

[sleek fractal]

But removing it is just batshit crazy and not the solution.Espwcialy if they want multiple gamemodes to divide the playerbase further

[serene birch]

yeah no we definitely dont need another game mode

thats just a cope take from crybabies ngl

[sleek fractal]

Gaijin also has no interest at all in changing anything smh otherwise they would have done it

They should remove first spawn Helos too

[serene birch]

i mean first spawns with ATGMs? sure

the ones with dumbfires are fine

theyre usually just free RP lol

[frigid carbon]

any sale or shit ?

[serene birch]

update

[sleek fractal]

You wanna get slapped?

Thats literaly the question everyone asks 24/7

[frigid carbon]

i wanna buy premium you baboon

[sleek fractal]

I know

[frigid carbon]

i am not everyone

[sleek fractal]

Me too

Il give your answer

Shortly

[serene birch]

closest sale will probably be what

[frigid carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/saladin-gif-19257325

[serene birch]

birthday?

[sleek fractal]

End of June

Or October birthday yeah

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/18mse6r/war_thunder_calendar_of_sales_2024/

[serene birch]

wow i feel like a moron i just realized

you can collapse the techtrees now LOL

[sleek fractal]

Summer sale

Lol what

Why

That looks shit like back in Beta

When we had tier 1 to 20

[serene birch]

prolly for people with massive gaps like these

[sleek fractal]

what is this

Why is it like that

[serene birch]

because of the amount of premiums and etc i have

[sleek fractal]

Yeah me too

But it never went like this

[serene birch]

whats ur US Tier IV to V gap look like lmao

[midnight forge]

For me premiums are taking TWO rows, so it doesn't look like this...

[sleek fractal]

Even 3 for me

[serene birch]

my german one is similar

[midnight forge]

Game decided to be web 1.0 or something

[sleek fractal]

Ayo i need to look at mine

[midnight forge]

Wait, what's your resolution ratio? I have 16:10, which isn't even widescreenest of them

[serene birch]

nah its literally just due to the amount of premiums i have, since theyre only 2xhowevermany it forces the lines to get extreeeemely long

see LMAO

it just goes on and on and on and on its so ugly so im sorta glad i can collapse the trees

[midnight forge]

yeah, i have only like... half of it

[serene birch]

most of the premiums im missing i just either missed out on buying or i cba grinding cause the event sucked or i burnt out

[sleek fractal]

I have all of these and more

[ruby rain]

what issues?

[serene birch]

real

[serene birch]

what the FUCK would spaa be used for

[sleek fractal]

Or the already shit map design

Then BR ratings are also balanced with CAS in mind

Well ok they implemented seperated BR's for air lately

Forgot about that

[midnight forge]

well, we getting different ratings for mixed and air battles... soonish

[ruby rain]

nothing

get rid

[sleek fractal]

Already did

[midnight forge]

Well, i'd still use Falcon 😄

[sleek fractal]

Partialy

[midnight forge]

yeah, i meant partially

there's a lot to do

[serene birch]

that is the dumbest take ive ever heard and ive heard a lot

you know what fuck it

[midnight forge]

Falcon is love, Falcon is life! Also ZSU-57-2

[serene birch]

this was a plane game first and foremost

get rid of TANKS

fuck yo stanky ass tanks catbites

[midnight forge]

[ruby rain]

[serene birch]

want tank only gameplay?

go play world of tanks

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[midnight forge]

ships be like:

[serene birch]

i fuck with coastal in WT

bluewater not so much

[ruby rain]

damn

you rly hating on me bc I want a gamemode to be better?

[midnight forge]

Yeah, actually, imagine all that SPAA power on ships if you remove planes 😄

[serene birch]

because your "solution" is a dumb solution that even gaijin said aint gon happen before

[serene birch]

main issue with bluewater ngl, spaa is just waaaaay too good lmfao

[sleek fractal]

If you wanted it to be better you wouldnt ask for a new game mode.Thats my take.

[midnight forge]

Nah, leave CAS be.
I'd increase requirements for it tho. It's stiil too easy to rolfcopt all over the enemy after few scoutings and single kill

[serene birch]

i fear no man, but that THING... it scares me.

[sleek fractal]

The most sane solution

[serene birch]

also remember last time gaijin bumped up the SP cost for CAS??? no one complained except the retardedly bad CAS players

[ruby rain]

Im not asking for a new gamemode.
Im asking for CAS to be HEAVILY limited in ground battles

[sleek fractal]

You asked for its removal.Increasing the Spawnpoint cost would be the solution

[midnight forge]

It was pretty apparent during retardchill farm. I just hop in my light tank, do my usual "meh" routine and get full packed CAS plane, or at least something like me410 B6/R3. Too easy(
No surprise there's still so many suicidal P-47 and Stuka guys

[midnight forge]

-- You can't fly your plane right now.
-- WHY?
-- Your team already have 4 suicidal bombers locked in on one enemy...

[serene birch]

bump up SP cost, you dont need to remove CAS or actually even limit them. increased SP cost will mean the bad players will continue to suck but be knocked out of games sooner and the skilled playres play even more cautiously and probably even as groups to take out ACTUAL targets instead of potentially wasting their SP on a lame target

SP was bumped up before and gaijin could easily do it again with little complaints from the sane portion of the community

but also saying that, if they up the cost of SP required to spawn CAS, especially by a significant amount. would they increase the nuke cost or would you see nukes only costing a little over double a CAS plane

[midnight forge]

Yep. If an average bad player dies after doing nothing (and probably capturing one point since he rushed it), he should not have access to planes yet.

[serene birch]

also fight me but the nuke was the gimmickiest gimmick to ever gimmick in war thunder

[midnight forge]

Hah, just thought of another solution, which would start civil war in WT :DDDDD
Imagine this...
You have your SP for CAS, but when you press "fly" button, your team is alerted of that, and they need to vote. You'd need at least 1/4 of your team "clearing" you for flying (and they will know WHAT you are trying to fly).

If team sees you trying to fly He-51 at 6.7 battle, they be like "HELL NOOOOO"

[ruby rain]

also limit the amount of air vehs to 2 per team.
remove guided bombs and the 10k and 12k lb ones

[serene birch]

ah yes remove guided bombs

[midnight forge]

so we do remove pe-8 from game, right?

[ruby rain]

from ground

[serene birch]

catbites is actually insane i think

what would even be the point of the large bombs in the game at all??? airfields are no longer a bombing target

[midnight forge]

No, i don't think he is. He's just tired of CAS players being annoyance to HIM, that is quite understandable. But for me personally it's not a problem at all, i get triggered by... different things let's say 😄

[ruby rain]

not the player's fault that the fucking devs dont include that which those bombs would actually be used on

[serene birch]

but they did

grouped together tanks

[midnight forge]

But imagine if it could be used against amassed vehicles...

😄

[serene birch]

im lost on what GBUs and etc would then be used for if theyre barred from ground rb

[midnight forge]

The more i thing of it, the more my "insane" idea becomes sane... or is it just my mind melting?

People could actually stop ally from flying Pe-8 with 5000 kg bomb, if there's no adequate target for it.

Hmmmmm

Yeah, i know it won't be taken seriously anyway by devs, but still...

[serene birch]

tbh only problem with that if you so much as annoy too many people in ur match you'll get denied even an actually purposeful plane

it has the same flaw as CSGO kicking

[midnight forge]

Yeah, that would happen alot

[serene birch]

mob mentality

[midnight forge]

Just like your allies bombing the shit out of your because they are annoyed by you. Tho i didn't see much of that behaviour lately. It's mostly Lancaster taking 3 enemies + 3 allies and getting away with it

[serene birch]

because teamkilling costs a LOT of SL now

I arty'd a friendly not too long ago because his dumbass drove right into a cluster of enemies trying to take them all out with his auto cannon

set me back 50k

[midnight forge]

oh, it's that much now. Cool actually (combined with "pardon killer" thing)

[serene birch]

yeaaap

[midnight forge]

So a player can propose to remove CAS from GB, but a player can't propose to add such objects?))))
I'd consider actually brainstorm that idea.

A long time ago we had AI-controlled tanks, artillery pieces and AA crews on the borders of ground map, and they could be bombed by planes. So technology is already there.

[serene birch]

my poor gbus sitting there having 0 purpose in life when theyre taken away from ground battles

[ruby rain]

no
bc I fear that the cas retards will then flood the forums with "we need more bombs and more missiles and more buffs so we can KILL EVERY PLAYER WITH TOTAL IMPUNITY!!!"

[serene birch]

look a new bomb

and the community didnt even have to ask :)

[midnight forge]

Don't fear, be brave!
They probably are going to flood forums, but i don't read forums, so it isn't that bad)))))
Now people flood forums with different things, nothing would change.

well, yeah, it's somehow got worse after update...

[frigid carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-pesci-what-the-fuck-wtf-wtf-is-that-what-the-fuck-is-this-gif-24937450

[sleek fractal]

Mutant

WoT alpha preorder tank

I have it

Its quite good in WT

[half falcon]

this ping is awful

[cold lichen]

New sound updates as well

Time to see what the 20mm vulcan sounds like

(It actually sound like a wet long fart)

[rare phoenix]

losat any fun?

[cold lichen]

Honestly, same

I wanna know too

[soft oracle]

Victory for USA

LOSAT fun occasionally

[sleek fractal]

Its rather shit

[rare phoenix]

i have 2 losat coupons and idk whether or not to consume one

[hot hull]

Its ass

Its a fun and quirky vehicle but its absolute water

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[cold lichen]

Whats M908?

Just a better MP round?

Nvm, its just a side grade?

[soft oracle]

It is more frag HEAT

“The M908 is fired from the M1A1/M1A2 Abrams tank, and is used to destroy concrete obstacles, permitting the rapid advance of infantry and armor. The M908 was developed against an urgent requirement from Korea in 1996 when the M728 Combat Engineer Vehicle and its 165mm M123 demolition round was removed from the Army inventory, an action that threatened to leave Combat Engineers without a means to destroy, or ‘rubble’ large obstacles that would otherwise impede advancing friendly troops.”

[sleek fractal]

If you got a bug thats randomly switching your decals out

Its being worked on

[sleek fractal]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1djjuwn/decals_seem_to_swap_with_the_last_person_you/

[hot hull]

I thought someone was making a funny joke when I asked about my weird decals that I didnt put

turns out they were deadass

[serene birch]

meh

cant aim the turret up and down so you rely on flat terrain

the rods can be steered after launch but they’re pretty fast so you don’t have much time at close range

[serene birch]

see above

[cold lichen]

[hot hull]

well the losat also has shitall pen at close range

70mm at 10m and 775mm at 1km

It WILL kill anything no matter where you hit it at 1km range

unless it just overpens, which it will in many cases against light skinned vehicles

[sleek fractal]

still generates a ton of spalling since the last buff.

Its still kinda shit anyway

Very situational

But if you can hit you usualy kill everything one hit

[hot hull]

even if the protection analysis tells you that it wont do any damage it all it will go straight through the entire tank

[sleek fractal]

Cause the protection analysis is shit

[hot hull]

that too

[sleek fractal]

In hangar it never works like in actual game situations

recreating shot is very hard cause you never get the right distance or angle

ALSO its all calculations so you will get a different outcome every single time

[eternal zenith]

just the other night I took down a BT-5 with 3 MGM166, we both had a laugh about it

speaking of shitall pen, I played the 292 a couple days ago and the dart bounced off a BTR-80 front slope

[hot hull]

I've lost count over how many darts I have bounced off weird russian slopes

[eternal zenith]

ooh boy, autoloaders are FUCKED

russia actually suffering this update

too bad I just got into playing the baguette tanks

[ivory garden]

what happened to them

I’m almost at my first Swedish autoloader tank

actually might be just an autocannon I’d have to check

[eternal zenith]

nevermind. most autoloaders still fine

just most russian pattern tanks are now at a disadvantage

Type 90 pattern also got a modeled loader

from what I can tell no french, german, US and swedish autoloaders should suffer

[ivory garden]

swedish navy when

[eternal zenith]

good update

[hot hull]

I dont think delat torn or bkan has modeled parts like that yet anyway

[hot hull]

So whats going on with them anyway

My main grinding nation rn is like 10.3 russia so that could be rough

[eternal zenith]

just when you destroy it they won't be able to fire twice

no surprise there: the Ka-50 still 90% hot nothing

[hot hull]

yea lol

Helicopters need the internal modules more than anything

[eternal zenith]

next update. For now we should be happy about rather detailed ground models

[hot hull]

Yea

[ruby rain]

dont you just love it when youre shooting a .50 directly at a plane and IT DIOES ABSOLUTELY FUCKING BNOTHINNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG

fucking scum piecer of dogshit

[eternal zenith]

I suspect this is tied to a probability value, like when you have boosters active or some other magic stat is too high you actually getting gimped by the RNG

[ruby rain]

no booster

[eternal zenith]

yeah it's also tied to KD/win stats I believe

you relative to your opponent that is

and I also believe premium players get a slight edge in that algorithm

[ruby rain]

\

I wish Gaijin a very happy
shredded alive for fertiliser

[eternal zenith]

Try mapping select machine gun and reset weapon selection to a convenient hotkey, the turret moving screws with your aim quite a bit

but yeah that pilot should've been cooked

[ruby rain]

its on x now

[ivory garden]

flying realistic is hard

and 1 AA shot blew me up :(

(I can get many AA hits in realistic ground but they always just do a hit or say severe damage but then nothing, except for one time I took out a guy's wing with my first shot, that was cool)

AA giveth and AA taketh

I've really only done arcade planes so realistic planes is taking time to get used to

[ivory garden]

I continue to hate planes

a fighter killed me :(

after a stellar 4 kill killstreak in my AT, I got bombed, spawned as my medium tank, got fightered

stunning gameplay

[hot hull]

I felt that

[sleek fractal]

Planes got armor and armored cockpits too

Depending on your ammo belt in the mg you cant pen it

[ruby rain]

almost true

[sleek fractal]

That the biggest disadvantage ever rn due the changes to prevent ulq advantages

[ruby rain]

what does this mean?

[sleek fractal]

That ulqrenders blobs instead of some bushes that you can look through

It doesnt render some smaller objects that can eat Heat or HE

[rare phoenix]

should i grind the AV8 Plus for america (the harrier with amraams)

[sleek fractal]

Ehhh ehhhh

Like,mehhh

Lets say it will be the last thing i get and all i need to grind is the new F-15 and that

So rather postpone it UNLESS you really want it for Ground RB

[fluid trout]

almost had as many air kills as top player had ground.

[plain panther]

I got the achievements already but im gonna kill nuke planes anyway

All for the grind

Such is the way, the snail intended

[cold lichen]

Would actually kill myself

Also

[ivory garden]

just got spawnkilled 3 times in a row because our team was getting crushed that bad

sherman sniped me right after I spawned
dive bomber
ISU sniped me again at the other spawn point

[ivory garden]

this current match is just american CAS spawncamping us

I hate planes in realistic ground so much

spawn, get killed by CAS with 1000 pound bomb (my diver bomber can only carry 250kg, why)
spawn, get shot by fighter
spawn, get shot and blown up

my first life is the only time I get to do anything

[ivory garden]

fields of normandy match + pvkv III = I had the most ground kills

(tree cover meant I was very hidden from planes, so no stupid dive bombers or fighters could get me)

[ruby rain]

brooo is there ANY good SPAA????

[eternal zenith]

Ozelot

ItO90

Ostwind II

[hot hull]

pantsir duh!!!!!!!!!!!! just play russia!

I like my gun spaa

I really want the otomatic but I aint grinding all that

lvkv90 is the best of both worlds

every other cv90 have not got the irst they should have yet either

[prisma nymph]

:flag_se: Swedish (svenska)
⬇️

:flag_gb: **English** *(English)*

Anti-aircraft gun carriage

[eternal zenith]

Otomatic also has a flawed radar retraction setup. The tracking dish should retract with the search dish since it uses IRST instead of radar when folded

makes you even larger of a target

also the limit of darts is still one of my least favourite decisions

if you limit them then at least give them the flight adjustment fins (yes, IRL Otomatic shoots guided tungsten darts)

[ruby rain]

Tiger H1 icon?

[eternal zenith]

testserver time

full load APFSDS

a terrible, dark time in the games history

[ivory garden]

did a bombing run and blew up my own plane despite being atleast 300m altitude from the bomb landing

shows to show how stupid the bomb radius is

[eternal zenith]

why would you do a low altitude bombing maneuver with assault fuses

[ivory garden]

I had them on 1.5s

[eternal zenith]

bomb might've been shot

[ivory garden]

I also figured after some practicing that I'd be fast enough to get out of the bomb radius even if I was too close

but there it's just nah you'd dead now

[hot hull]

sounds badass

[ivory garden]

worst part is I dropped them too early and missed the target, which I guess adds more confusion because I should've been further away from the bombs

[eternal zenith]

it really is, they spec'd 40G turns and ranges of 5km

[hot hull]

God damn

Dodge that, ka-52

[eternal zenith]

craziest part is that there would be virtually no bullet drop

doesn't matter if 50m or 1000m you just aim and fire

[hot hull]

Im still curious about the lack of premium SPAA

that one soviet TD spaa dont count

[ivory garden]

I just witnessed 4 team mates get spawnkilled by a bomber

ok it happened again, but this time I dropped my 250kg bomb directly on a tank, it got a hit and then blew me up

how

I had fully cleared it, I was 500m above

planes stupid

[hollow pelican]

What Bomber?

[ivory garden]

B18A

[ivory garden]

albeit in arcade, I found it's amazing at tanking damage and still going, haven't been shot down yet in it, just it's incredibly hard to fly in realistic with damage compared to arcade

but my tail gunners have proven good and I've shot down people with them in realistic ground

this fucking bomber just dropped a 5000 pound bomb and it killed 6 of us, and 4 of us weren't even near it

absurd

I did just shoot a petard in the barrel and blew it up so I think that counterbalances it

[ivory garden]

"Try to penetrate soviet tank challenge (impossible)"

this churchill and I put over 8 shells into this (I think) T-34 and it just all bounced off/non-penetrated

till he got a lucky hit

and he was behind it

[eternal zenith]

The funniest thing about soviet / russian tanks is that the 88mm from the flakbus can one shot pretty much all of them due to commander sight over pressure

T-90 players will send you death threats

god I love the flakbus

[ivory garden]

just took out 2 T-34s in close combat, the first one because I got a lucky hit and insta-killed them, second because I somehow finally got a ricochet in my favour (and then disabled his gunners)

IKV 103 is an unsung hero

swedish tank destroyers my beloved

[ivory garden]

I have noticed a trend though

the team with the soviets win most of the time, but if the other team has the americans with planes, then the american side wins

like 7/10 to 8/10 of the time it seems this holds true

[sleek fractal]

Denied.

[ivory garden]

ok

[sleek fractal]

https://wt.controlnet.space/

[ivory garden]

it does align fairly well

[sleek fractal]

As you can see its heavily BR dependend,thats what i was wanted to say

[ivory garden]

yes

[eternal zenith]

France cooking

[soft oracle]

USA on TOP 💯 😎

[hot hull]

swedish low tier APDS not doing then any favors lmaoo

[soft oracle]

We are so back it is over

[sleek fractal]

I still need to grind those pieces of shit planes

But first i will grind the ICE

Its so joever

[eternal zenith]

they're really getting their money's worth with that online ad campaign

[sleek fractal]

That stupid fake tank

[soft oracle]

le spaded

see you next year

[spark spindle]

Nerfs for the french incoming, mark my words

[hot hull]

man what did they do

[sleek fractal]

Lol nah,France was shit a long time and nobody plays it except for the small crowed that knows its good

[sleek fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiR3jLK904k&ab_channel=DEFYN

This time its not a clickbait reddit post is what he says.

Cause its fucking true

[fluid trout]

LVKV 9040 🙂

[ruby rain]

Huh

So nothing from the usa

[sleek fractal]

Nope

The ADATS is good

Tunguska

TOR

[cold lichen]

Nope

I mean

The XM800T could be a good AA option

Due to its fast turret rotation and decent ammo count

[ruby rain]

I actually watched a vid of it being used and the guy got several air kills so ya

Im researching it rn

[half falcon]

PBV 301

[ivory garden]

I found the 150mm Spj with the swedish APHE or whatever it is, one shots most things

I was still using it when I got to BR 4.0

then I embraced the pvkv’s more because turret

[sleek fractal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/i1bu8iWm54Q?si=lunnM4Y_OZe3P478

[ruby rain]

those fuckers

for what reason??

[soft oracle]

British

[ivory garden]

for what purpose

[ivory garden]

for some reason my UI is now here in screenshots

anyways I was doing some sniping when this tank snuck up on me but failed

that was a proud snipe too, was based on where the AA bullets were coming from and then I guessed they were on that road right there and boom

[hot hull]

real and true

[hot hull]

Well thats just large cal he things

[ivory garden]

yes

I absolutey love getting killed by a 1000 pound bomb that's not even near me

why can fighters carry them but not bombers

[fathom sapphire]

i play warthunder and stalker gamma

i feel great

[sleek fractal]

Because Bombers have even bigger ones and its not a fighter carrying it,its CAS aka an Attacker usualy

[ivory garden]

CAS is pretty much a fighter

definitely shouldn't be given 1000pound bombs

especially when my bombers can only carry like 250kg tops

[sleek fractal]

No lol

[ivory garden]

I just got blown up by another 1000 pound bomb typing these

amazing

[sleek fractal]

Their usualy bulkier and slower,less nimble

[ivory garden]

was at spawn

I hate planes in realistic ground

just got shot by a fighter/CAS as I spawned again

so joever this match

and my hatred is fueled further

[sleek fractal]

1000 pound is like 500kg which is still small considering 1000kg,2000kg,3000kg and 5000kg exists on the BR your playing

But thats bombers

[sleek fractal]

Spawn AA

[ivory garden]

just the range of them is insane

props to people who can pilot dive bombers and stuff, I suck at realistic planes, but the bomb range is incredibly stupid

every time I am AA, I get shot by the plane I am shooting down

I get hits and severe hits, never shoot them down though, they kill me instantly

[sleek fractal]

Their going mostly in a straight line,just learn the guns trajectory

[ivory garden]

yes

I am pretty good at aiming AA

[sleek fractal]

Also your playing sweden,non armored light open vehicles

[ivory garden]

just they do nothing to planes, then on the other hand when I am flying my B17A or B18 I always get one tapped

[sleek fractal]

Because your pilot is not skilled on vitality,

[ivory garden]

not my pilot, my wings just blow up spontaneously

[sleek fractal]

Full vitality lets hin eat 37mm

Mhh ok

Popenfarten blowup wing

[ivory garden]

sadly

an annoying thing that is entirely on me is I hear every plane much *further than it actually is

and I can't see them well in the sky unless they're dive bombing right on me and then I'm dead

then I'm so focused on trying to identify where the plane is and if it's friendly, I'm often sniped

[sleek fractal]

Ok,since i play a lot of Air RB im used to search for spots in the sky

Usualy you hear them pretty early and can determine where its coming from

[ivory garden]

my B17A's gun jammed after not even 1 second burst and then I lagged into a tree right as I was landing at the airfield

unfortunately my brain isn't built for realistic planes

I can barely handle arcade plane battles lol

even there, I just play bombers

being baffled by my friend winning dogfights and getting 6+ kills

I'm lucky if I win a 1v1 dogfight even if it's all in my favour lol

and a rookie error on my behalf, I got 500kg bombed while typing this

[sleek fractal]

Doesnt it have that super good 20mm?

Guess thats the trade off

[ivory garden]

it's got 8mm

maybe thinking of the B18A/B ?

[sleek fractal]

One of them had something bigger iirc

[ivory garden]

after this round I'll check my planes

B18A and B18B have 13.2mm
T18B has 20 and 13.2mm
T18B (57) has the same but with a 50mm (damm)
B17A and B17B have 8mm

I do not have the T18Bs though

maybe I should grind some planes so I can have a funny

[sleek fractal]

Ah it was 13.2

Stupid measurement

The 50mm seems fun

[ivory garden]

it is swedish after all

[sleek fractal]

We are like 7.77

Sweden 8.0

12,7

Sweden 13,2

[ivory garden]

bigger boolet

well, a round of realistic planes I guess to try it out

this is either going to be peak bomber gameplay or I die from every fighter within a 2km bubble

or I tear my wings off because "too fast"

enemy planes stills how up within certain distance, odd

did not expect that

also was not expecting it to be 1 life

good thing I escaped that fighter that decided to go after me

I would've liked to been able to pick my plane though

rather fly the B18B than the B18A

[ivory garden]

figured this out

well that was actually kind of fun

until the end, the last last enemy tried chasing me to get a final kill but my tail gunners chased him off after a few hits and then the round ended

[sleek fractal]

I did not see this otherwise i would have explained

[ivory garden]

I somehow crashed while fully landed

and some stupid fighter one tapped me, blowing up a wing from 2km away

seems legit

I absolutely love how at 120m I still damaged my plane critically with my own 50kg bombs

and for 3x hits on the tank I was aiming for

no more B17A, I swap for B18A and just play another realistic battle

then ideally sleep but brain is no

[keen sequoia]

Because instead, bombers get things like these

[ivory garden]

don't know what that is

oh that's a bomb

given what I've seen of 1000 pound bombs, a 5000kg bomb would blow up 1/8th the map

if not 1/6th

like it'd be a MOAB sort of thing

doesn't sound fun unless you like cheap kills

[keen sequoia]

and thats why fighters and small CAS get 1000lb which like lafettie said are like 500kg, because bombers get 5000KG bombs and the even larger 12000LB bomb found on the lancaster

[ivory garden]

that's stupid

[keen sequoia]

Its very fun.

one of them can win your team the game if you use it right

[ivory garden]

at this BR I have 250kg bombs on my avaliable bomber

[keen sequoia]

and your teammates appreciate it most times

[keen sequoia]

at what BR

[ivory garden]

4.0 realistic ground

I can't use my 4.0 B18B with 600kg

[keen sequoia]

wait till you get 5.7

or 6.3

then most of the bombs are 500s and 1000s

[ivory garden]

I hate planes in my realistic tank battles

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

all bombs just insta kill my tanks at insane ranges

and I've yet to encounter a bad bomber that's not me who misses/times the fuse wrong

so it's always just .2 seconds of me accepting fate

[keen sequoia]

thats why you bring a plane aswell

so you can take down that bomber that killed you

and/or do CAS if you have the ability to bring bombs

[ivory garden]

several issues there that you must've missed;
-I suck at flying, especially realistic
-I bring planes
-AA and other players always shoot me down one tapping my wings somehow
-I suck at bombing

like man I just want to shoot tanks not be blown up by a bomber because I was within 5km of it breathing

and they almost always find me even if I'm still and in cover

I can barely see tanks when I'm in a plane

like it's a massive skill issue but I also don't want to play with planes

I'd go to plane mode for that

[keen sequoia]

simply fly high to avoid AA

[ivory garden]

[keen sequoia]

its that simple

[ivory garden]

that just makes the "can't see anything" issue harder

and doesn't help avoid other planes

or AA that still hit me

[keen sequoia]

you dont fly high to drop bombs unless you're in a bomber, if you dont want to die while in planes fly high and look for other enemy aircraft that will either drop bombs on your teammates, or be trying to kill you

[sleek fractal]

Im not always that angry german motherfucker

[keen sequoia]

what are you on about lafettie

[ivory garden]

perhaps but I still can't see shit to bomb

[sleek fractal]

That i,most times,spout out usefull information

[keen sequoia]

yes you do

but one thing you gotta remember

majority of this chat are lobotomy patients that don't listen to useful information

[sleek fractal]

Thats why im so passive aggressive xD

also rn im playing around with fancy name generators

dont be suprised

[ivory garden]

I'll listen to the useful info and then get pissy when it doesn't work

[sleek fractal]

fully understandable

[ivory garden]

ok, you know

the only plane I can actually hear well ahead of time

are the junkers/stukas

[sleek fractal]

Cause of the siren lol

[ivory garden]

still can't pin down where they are

[ivory garden]

yes

[sleek fractal]

Playing with a headset ?

[ivory garden]

yes

pretty good headphones

[sleek fractal]

Then you should hear them wayyyyy before that

[ivory garden]

just planes always sound way off

I'd say some sound further than they are but some sound closer

[sleek fractal]

Current update sounds are shit again so i can relate a bit

they change the sounds fairly often

[ivory garden]

and I can't identify where they are in the sky or if they're friendly either

[sleek fractal]

i still remember when KingTigers had silent electrical engines

[ivory garden]

most planes I see are just mid-dive bomb and then I am dead .2 seconds later

[sleek fractal]

You can easily see if their friendly due the name above them

[ivory garden]

well yeah but I can't see planes well

because the sound doesn't match where they are

[sleek fractal]

But the name in the sky 😄

[ivory garden]

perhaps if they're in my fov yes

but if I hear a plane outside of that, I don't know

[sleek fractal]

I changed the blue to a more vibrant colour

Allies are pink cause easier to see

Squad mates are yellow

THats all sticking out

The red is a brighter one than the default

[sleek fractal]

BTW

put your own engine sounds to 27

then you can hear everyone else better

[ivory garden]

that's a good idea

had it at 48 already, put it to 30

[sleek fractal]

27

lowest

Your own engine is still loud as f

[ivory garden]

round and or even number

I LOVE BOMBERS

it shot me, took out my driver, 1000 pound bomb

[sleek fractal]

if it shot you it wasnt a bomber

[ivory garden]

CAS then

it bombed me

it dropped a bomb on me

I hate them

[sleek fractal]

Even a Stuka is a strike aircraft

ok lol it counts as dive bomber hurr durr

fucking warthunder

but yeah 2.0 Bombers already carry those

[ivory garden]

just watched a CAS dive bomb a SPAA, somehow dodging the flurry of AA shots and then shot it and not even bombing it

bruhg

the plane won charging the multiple SPAAs and took one out

howw

society

[sleek fractal]

5.3 Lancaster

[ivory garden]

I lose mental stability

due to planes

[sleek fractal]

4.3 PE-8

[keen sequoia]

question: am i the only one that brings the PE-8 to 6.7 simply because of how goated it is?

[sleek fractal]

Nope theres plenty of these

[keen sequoia]

good

[sleek fractal]

What i bring to 6.7

Sturmvogel

1x 500

[keen sequoia]

oh shit i did not know that thing got 500s

i need to start actually grinding german air

[sleek fractal]

the Jabo has

1x 500 too

[keen sequoia]

whichever 262 has the 50mm

is just based

and one i am still yet to get

[sleek fractal]

Its fun but hard to play

i still need to get the Alpha Jet

That thing is GOAT in Ground RB

[ivory garden]

is it just be or is planes much harder to grind than tanks?

maybe because I absolutely suck at planes

[sleek fractal]

Planes is way easier to grind

[ivory garden]

I just like to bomb because I can't dogfight

no clue how people turn so fast and then one tap me

[keen sequoia]

Tanks are much harder

[sleek fractal]

In Air RB you get a 20 or 30% RP Bonus for landing and taking of once

So you start,fight,rearm,PROFIT

[ivory garden]

but I can't dogfight so I assume it's moot

[sleek fractal]

You will learn

[ivory garden]

I don't have the awareness to dogfight

ties in with that "can't tell where planes are" in ground RB

[sleek fractal]

rn i suck completely at top tier due Fox3 and how to deal with em

You will learn like everyone else

[keen sequoia]

laffetie, another question

war thunder wasn't mathing the other day

i did ONE (1) AIR RB match in my F-16C, no prem time, no talisman, no boosters and i needed 20k for the AIM-120, in the match i got 1 kill and 1 assist and then suddenly after i exit that match i unlock the AIM-120s

what the fuck

[sleek fractal]

sounds nice

I dont know

[keen sequoia]

I believe the snail felt like being nice to me

[sleek fractal]

i wish that worked for this piece of shit

[keen sequoia]

can't believe that phantom is at 12.7

[sleek fractal]

They will lower it in BR soon

even Defyn called it DOA

Dead on arrival

[keen sequoia]

damn

[sleek fractal]

Also you need to fly on 60m from sea lvl now to dodge fox 3

at 80m you kiss the ground

thats the lowest point i found so far

Well unless there was actualy water.

Cant even dodge these shit missile flying through ravines

Nothing can obscure them smh

[keen sequoia]

a poor spaniard's house saved me from a fox-3 yesterday

i flew perfectly so the missile went straight through a window and killed a family of 19 eating dinner

[serene birch]

i got the most interesting bug (thankfully in a custom)

i was stuck like that for ages until i actually quit the custom

[ruby rain]

lucky accidental shot

[serene birch]

damn how much fanmail did you receive for that one

also jfc that sharpness

[ruby rain]

none

[ruby rain]

[serene birch]

i mean props to you but that shit gives me a mad migraine

[ruby rain]

from a sharpness filter???

jeez

[serene birch]

prolly cause when anything moves its quite jagged and rough on the ol' eyeballs

[fluid trout]

https://tenor.com/view/bomb-bombe-explosion-aunt-may-scream-gif-3353364976755720791

[sleek fractal]

[ruby rain]

top tier air

[ivory garden]

played another realistic air at 3.0

hit AI bomber 8 times, out of ammo so I must go resupply

get one tapped by some enemy plane that appeared out of nowhere

very cool game

stop blowing up my wings from 1 bullet

got my first dogfighting kill

he crashed and it counted as my kill

yippie

no idea how people turn so fast or aim so well

I can get hits but they do nothing

this dude just did a fucking 180 and literally mowed my plane apart

how the fuck

realistic planes 👎

I just turned my fighter at 550km/h (it's max speed is 560kmh/) with combat flaps on and they broke immediately

very cool game

then I crashed

amazing job

[sleek fractal]

You need to skill your pilot

Vitality,stamina,g tolerance

[ivory garden]

this fighter came out of nowhere, couldn't hear him till it was too late and then shredded my B18A

stupid fucking

I went to tailgunner and got 5 hits and they did nothing

how

I can barely fly or be aware of the sky as is, I can't dogfight or appearantly aim either

it's 13.2mm, someone here said that's pretty potent

[sleek fractal]

Thats why you should skill.i dont know what its called rn.Makes you spot enemies faster so they get a marker earlier.

[ivory garden]

hm

I scan the skies and then they just appear right behind me and it's joever

do the skills share between ground/air crews

because I think I've put all the points so far into ground guys

[sleek fractal]

No

Max lvlfor air is 75

Max lvl for ground 150

I dont even skill gunners for Air

Rather gun maintanence so they wont jam as fast

[ivory garden]

I understand the "germans are blind" now

2 german tanks passed by me getting ambushed by a cromwell

[ruby rain]

crazy how a Falcon can kill a T-10M through the commander's cupola

[cold lichen]

Once saw a falcon kill an IS-7?

[ivory garden]

what luck and a 75mm cannon with swedish APCBC does in close combat

2 T-34s and a few german tanks

[ivory garden]

got rubberbanded into a shell

I lived but still

bruh

driving along going back to a prior spot I was in, get shot at, guys shell goes well behind me, I rubberband back into it and lose 2 crew

I got bombed by a friendly while holding down a sightline with 3 kills already

what

how's that work

me spawning to a 1000lb bomb at my treads:

and again

mozdok bad map, our spawn had the slightest bit of hill cover and open sightlines of B :(

I'm sure tanks on C could've seen over it too

[eternal zenith]

Kursk PvE mission is just impossible at anything below 11.0+

fuck that map and spawn placement

[ivory garden]

I just learned the in sight bomb view is inaccurate

it shows a tiny little reticle but that is not correct

this fucking panzer just pushed me out of cover and we get bombed

german players are truly blind and stupid

[eternal zenith]

In the bomb sight you need to use the crosshair, the tiny reticle is the planes trajectory

[prisma nymph]

⏱️ 120,152.0h (hours) is equal to 5,006.333d (days)

⏱️ 12,152.0h (hours) is equal to 506.333d (days)

[eternal zenith]

[ivory garden]

what for

also could've just divided by 24

[ivory garden]

realistic planes continues to be my number one public enemy

get 3 hits on a fighter, he gets a hit on me, we start turn back to eachother, he's done a complete 180 already and then I'm killed instantly

I hate realistic planes

enemy plane and I charge eachother, I get 2 hits before instantly dying

my hits do nothing

[eternal zenith]

bruh

just watch the replay

you missing is the reason

[ivory garden]

what replay

also it says hit

and then doesn't do anything damaging

I'm counting the hit markers the game gives you

also I crashed my plane while in a dogfight because despite being undamaged it wouldn't pitch up

very cool game

everytime I ask for help in-game, the only help I get is "use bigger calibres"

[eternal zenith]

well duh, if you using anything smaller than a .50 you need to either hit the pilot or aim for control flaps

[ivory garden]

my pilot just passed out after doing a turn

how

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did we recruit a dane or something

is that why all my pilots suck, we're using danes?

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did you train g-tolerance?

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I'm devastated by this news but encouraged to keep crashing

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surely a pilot begins with the ability to not pass out doing a turn that he does at like 5degrees a minute

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also yes he has rank 1 g-endurance

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well, then raise stamina

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and the other guy had rank 4

and he passed out too

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if you pull 9g ofc they'll pass out

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I wasn't even

the max I did was 6

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duh

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bro have they never gone on a saucer ride in a playground

or a simulated rocket launch

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saucer ride
6g

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I think I only did like 4gs and that was difficult

well

hurt

but

besides the point

are we using danes

we're using danes

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you know what

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just saying if you need to pull 6g that often you might want to rethink your approach

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I realize they must've been lying to me

I was a kid at the time at an air museum

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what nation you playing?

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sweden

with "potent" 13.2mm guns

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no fucking way did I do 4gs or the machine hit 4gs

I assume I did so poorly that it was a pity mark, like how in highschool gym I was so slow at swimming I was excused from the swimming unit

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Don't turnfight with the J22

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but then they just shoot me down from behind me

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keep altitude, drop try to hit, disengage and climb

you're no supposed to let people get behind you

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I absolutely guarantee you that some rando is going to appear behind me while doing that and then I die instantly

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keep close to friendlies

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I do

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are you just flying straight into the crowd?

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I often fly to the side to let friendlies move in with me/before me

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with the J-22 you can try and focus on intercepting bombers

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for now I am going back to the B18A and just high-alt bombing

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climb to like 4-5km

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I do

just always some random fighter shows up and chases me

atleast I can usually get them to leave me alone after I shoot them with my tailgunners

B18A and B18B are pretty tanky in my arcade experience and so far they're still fairly tanky in realistic

just I can't fly all the way back to the airfield to repair when the oil leaks because the game decides that melts my wings off

I like how I got shot down on the airfield while resupplying

very cool game

thank you

atleast I got one of the 2 fighters that was spawncamping