#🛩war-thunder
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ruby rain
https://warthunder.com/en/news/8515-development-vickers-mk11-the-wheeled-behemot...
okay?
bigger than Ratel?
serene birch
Nothings bigger than the Class P
class 3 my belovedsdd
soft oracle
https://warthunder.com/en/news/8515-development-vickers-mk11-the-wheeled-behemot...
Hahahahahah
That thing is atrocious looking
somber urchin
Why even play this over the rooi
ruby rain
What BR do yall reckon it'll be at?
cold lichen
9.7-10.0
soft oracle
9.3 because
ruby rain
gets knocked out by a fuckin Weasel
soft oracle
So?
serene birch
the fact that the SMT can nearly hit mach with 1 engine off is kinda surprising its kinda fat
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tough berry
is the losat better thatn it was when it came out
ruby rain
camo at 100%, slots filled w bushes 
tough berry
unfortunate
ruby rain
I love fighting almost nothing but Tigers and Panthers again 
serene birch
I love fighting almost nothing but Tigers and Panthers again <:ghostStare:10539...
theyre eaaasy kills B)
ruby rain
Not with unmodded tanks
eternal zenith
what mod you using to get better?
NOS injection? Some garret turbos?
Nice ||spoiler|| on the back?
serene birch
Not with unmodded tanks
what tank are you in
ruby rain
started using these 3 at once a couple days ago
serene birch
excuse me tigers arent easy kills in those excuse me
eternal zenith
all these are also easy prey for tigers
serene birch
yeah but thats sorta always been the tigers thing
easy to clap and easy to be clapped
its what makes 4.7-5.7 fun but i guess soon to be 5.0-6.0
serene birch
all these are also easy prey for tigers
the jackson tho…. i always fear it when i play panthers or tigers
ruby rain
also
ruby rain
Gaijin wouldnt give non-USSR/RU tanks armour parts they dont have
serene birch
bet
serene birch
do i grind for the kurnass 2000
serene birch
pythons :3
eternal zenith
Ain't that a F-4 on life support?
dull inlet
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?
eternal zenith
is that fin T-72?
dull inlet
is that fin T-72?
T 72 does not have dynamic protection only T72B
eternal zenith
Т64B
With ERA researched, right?
Cause the T-64B don't have add on armor
T-64BV has the ERA?
when that? 31st?
dull inlet
With ERA researched, right?
dull inlet
T-64BV has the ERA?
Yes
eternal zenith
300 crates of wood
native cypress
~October 28th-5 Nov
eternal zenith
this BP was really fun to clear
serene birch
you know when sale starts?
usually Nov 1
shrewd gulch
eternal zenith
Playing one and have one coupon in reserve, might pick up another if below 20$
so far this event has been net positive, always sell materials while they above a gaijollar each
people paying 5$ for blue factory upgrades 
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They updated the BR changes
Tiger 2 10,5 and Panther 2 my beloved 😦
279 to 9.0
DAMN
KV220 6.0 
eternal zenith
279 rip
still gonna slap at 9.0 
BTR-ZD going from 4.3 arcade to 5.7 is also kinda hilarious
sly sparrow
Still remember the day a tiger 2 10.5 over-penetrated my side turret as a super-pershing. Just turned the turret, clapped him because of his reloading time, and went back into position.
serene birch
Still remember the day a tiger 2 10.5 over-penetrated my side turret as a super-...
jfc he was using APCR he deserved that
ruby rain
what was i supposed to be seeing
I think the part where he killed a F14
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sly sparrow
jfc he was using APCR he deserved that
At this time, few years back, even APCBC had problems where it would over penetrate without exploding inside XD
serene birch
At this time, few years back, even APCBC had problems where it would over penetr...
How many years are we talking lmao
sly sparrow
For this one XD
leaden fossil
Apparently F-16C flight manual got leaked?
soft oracle
Inb4 it is restricted only
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Apparently F-16C flight manual got leaked?
There got a ton of shit leaked the last months
Nothing groundbreaking or new though
They even deleted an Eurofighter manual which wasnt even classified 
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ruby rain
ships 
💤
somber urchin
dull inlet
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This Italian 90/53 self-propelled gun on a wheeled Breda 52 truck will soon arrive to War Thunder as one of the main prizes in the upcoming Battle pass season “Tropical Storm”!
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soft oracle
cold lichen
soft oracle
daring flame
https://youtu.be/SmcKrcypMHU?si=wrwbByXzaDsh9J5m
What is this supposed to be
soft oracle
Tried watching?
daring flame
Tried watching?
Its just a bunch of countries nothing is explained what is it showcasing
soft oracle
daring flame
Nvm i saw merkava's and thought it was israel
daring flame
Useless jet bomber and Obj. 775 is gonna be meme
The m107 was sick tho
Not m107 sry
What tank is this?
soft oracle
T54E2
daring flame
I also saw a t95 in there
not turtle
https://i.imgur.com/oT1cT8r.png What is this pancake?
soft oracle
Object 775
daring flame
I thought the 775 was arty
soft oracle
You thought wrong
daring flame
You thought wrong
Man you really are just a dick huh
soft oracle
Damn that easily pressed?
daring flame
You've been condescending since the first sentence you've said, clearly you have no friends
soft oracle
soft oracle
But M109
soft oracle
He is just chilling
keen sequoia
ARDVARK GAMING ARDVARK GAMING ARDVARK GAMING
serene birch
ARDVARK GAMING ARDVARK GAMING ARDVARK GAMING
time to rain supersonic guided bombs onto silly russians
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eternal zenith
https://i.imgur.com/oT1cT8r.png What is this pancake?
none of the O775 pics look right. All of them seems scaled wrong
zinc hatch
i made fun of my friend from the navy with the new boat coming out
he said hes gonna kill me
eternal zenith
could've said he's gonna drill you and you misheard?
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germany, italy, us, france? <:KEK:1150378399735484416>
Britain
Israel
No french one
eternal zenith
britain got the g6 
eternal zenith
did democratic germany ever have mig-29s stationed?
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Whatever the fuck a German Mig29G is supposed to be
No
We never had more than we already have ingame
eternal zenith
Poland got itself the deal of a lifetime 
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I see they were modified
The modified version is G and GT
G for German and GT for German Trainer
eternal zenith
I would've paid 1€ for a mig29
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So those actualy do exist
Lel Mig29G is up to Nato standards
So it should be one of the best 29's
eternal zenith
missiles strapped onto them more expensive than the plane
eternal zenith
cold lichen
This update wasn't super awful balance wise
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The BR changes were really good
cold lichen
Yeah, and the vehicles introduced are bad either
Bar the T54E2
Could have made it a TT
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T54E1 is also already a premium at 8.0
barren coral
Literally does NOT make sense the jumbo is that high
The tigers i can get because they DOMINATE
But like the jumbo is just a 76 Sherman with more armor
You dont even rely on its armor at it's BR
eternal zenith
tiger don't dominate
barren coral
tiger don't dominate
They do if you play well
barren coral
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Jumbo 0.4 cause 6.7
So what changed?
It can face 7.7 which includes plenty of light vehicles
barren coral
The plenty of vics it can't pen
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Like it couldnt pen before 
barren coral
It could
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Oh it could you say
barren coral
Its still really good only because people suck at the game
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Ahhh ok
eternal zenith
M22 OP cause it can oneshot a 2s38
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It faced tigers
barren coral
And don't know how to play the tanks at that BR
barren coral
They don't suck
They are really good but their players suck
Theres a difference between the tank and player
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The tigers i can get because they DOMINATE
barren coral
Most german players at that general BR range suck
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Yeah but that means they dont dominate
barren coral
And it was mostly fighting tiger 2s not tiger 1s
barren coral
Yeah but that means they dont dominate
They do if the team pushes even if they have smoll brain
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I can cap Tiger 2s just fine via cupola
But thats what ive learned playing the Kv220
barren coral
Man i cant hit the cupola in tiger 2s in a jumbo imma be frank
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Im with you there,the Jumbo is over Br'ed we dont need to discuss that
barren coral
I do pretty good at barrel and track torture tho
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But that 6.7 might make it better to play due 7.7 lights
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Also they gonna decompress even more soon
barren coral
Wt's BR placements are all over the place
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They got better the last few changes
barren coral
Bulldog fighting tiger 2s
Ontos the same
barren coral
Expecting too much of gajjin
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Leopard 1 hull at 4.7
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Italy AA
barren coral
Ohh i see
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Its a 40mm gun
Il see on the dev server after i showered
oh the strikemaster is the BP Vic
that thing is even 4.3 for RB xD
eternal zenith
never going live at 4.3
eternal zenith
<:kekw:919974270132711444> They gonna do it
where in the tech tree is it?
before the R3? 
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dont have it open anymore
daring flame
More common LOSAT W's
eternal zenith
More common LOSAT W's
it's such a silly tank I love it
I don't get why they made the reload so dumb, should load one rocket at a time
sure it would make it OP in certain situations but still
eternal zenith
Still waiting for them to revert anything
they pegged the SL gain 2 weeks after implementing it
"reduced repair costs"
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south pendant
If the economy is better I might finally convince my friend to try it out once the next sale rolls around
He only wants to try Japanese top tier tanks
somber urchin
He only wants to try Japanese top tier tanks
Yeah nah
eternal zenith
He only wants to try Japanese top tier tanks
no way he can try out top tier jap tanks without a lot of grinding
The Type 16 is not why you play japan
Hydrodynamic suspension with the 4s reload for the type 10/X
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Repair costs are either a fixed amount of maximum or less if you die fast.They were way worse a few years ago.Remember the MARS for example.It had a cost of 35k SL
Also if you have Premium time you cant make - SL unless you Teamkill
south pendant
no way he can try out top tier jap tanks without a lot of grinding
I told him to buy one year of premium and the chi-nu ii and grind through the tree that way
Or just go with another nation altogether
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Thats smart and the best way to do it
Besides that Japan is the worst Nation in the Game.
keen sequoia
let a lil m22 kill me in my KV-2
good lil fella was willing to let me get an ace
but i sadly couldnt pull it off
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They should change it so its the longer you are alive the lower the rep costs
Encourages either good playing or camping
eternal zenith
I told him to buy one year of premium and the chi-nu ii and grind through the tr...
probably a good time, ngl
tho I wouldn't recommend people getting premium tanks
eternal zenith
They should change it so its the longer you are alive the lower the rep costs
Implement maintenance cost to punish people who drive throughout the entire match
break the gearbox on tigers randomly for the funny
south pendant
tho I wouldn't recommend people getting premium tanks
it's a choice if he's more interested in cold war to modern vehicles
something to make the grind a bit more tolerable
ruby rain
break the gearbox on tigers randomly for the funny
didnt all the German tanks after Panzers have gearbox issues?
Mby make the gearbox slowly degrade while driving
eternal zenith
hitting fuel tanks drains it, engine dies - no fuel. Only manual turret operation when battery goes out
ruby rain
On russian tanks starting driving has 60% channce of being delayed by a couple sec after pressing botton.
Lore - driver has trouble physically forcing the gearbox into gear
leaden fossil
🫡 
copper laurel
unless they fix that
eternal zenith
fuck yeah this is great
need to hop on dev to try it out
just turned apfsds into shotguns
should do damage sure but nowhere this far out
for reference you find sabot plugs 50-100m down range so the AA buff is cute but retarder
somber urchin
Real?
ruby rain
❓
ruby rain
what is the GJN - EUR ratio?
eternal zenith
bad
ruby rain
the AGS is 127 GJN
eternal zenith
not worth it... 105mm
ruby rain
the thing looks cool af
soft oracle
Meh
serene birch
not worth it... 105mm <:kekw:919974270132711444>
if its hull down its quite effective with m775or whatever the round is
cause its 10.3or 10.0 so you dont need more than 400mm of pen anywho
serene birch
the AGS is 127 GJN
me who bought one for like 25gjn after getting my own from the event
graceful dawn
they pegged the SL gain 2 weeks after implementing it
SL gain was unchanged from before the patches. All they did was reduce repair cost for people who just mulligan all the time and made purchase costs for new vehicles a bit cheaper.
SL gain is as shite as it ever was unless you are actually good at the game
graceful dawn
what is the GJN - EUR ratio?
Ain't it 1 irl currency per gjn, regardless of irl currency?
graceful dawn
What the fuck were these Italian engineers smoking... That Bofors looks like it was ripped off a WWII warship that had been sold to the scrappers.
graceful dawn
Poland got itself the deal of a lifetime <:lmao:975399524208091137>
StOrEd OuTsIdE
graceful dawn
I think I recognise this from when I played World of Tanks. Fucking OP premium peice of shit
keen sequoia
Boys
graceful dawn
Most reliable way to kill it is shoot HE at the tracks
keen sequoia
i need guidance
if the MIG-23ML goes on sale this anniversary, for 50% off
do i buy it or just keep my money
graceful dawn
if the MIG-23ML goes on sale this anniversary, for 50% off
Which one is the ML again? The East German one?
Because I plan on getting it after the F104G
keen sequoia
Which one is the ML again? The East German one?
11.3 soviet prem
graceful dawn
11.3 soviet prem
oh nvm
graceful dawn
Well, iirc it has all aspect heaters and SARH to choose from
I have seen them a wee bit while flying my sea harrier
keen sequoia
Like my only want for it
is the mig-29s, su-24
su-27
and then the felon farrrrrrr down the line
keen sequoia
yeah
graceful dawn
and the missiles seem good
graceful dawn
the 150 rounds
You really don't need much cannon ammo at high/top tier. any time you get a gun solution, you will only get a split second to shoot.
keen sequoia
True, it is top tier we're talking about
graceful dawn
150 is actually pretty good
graceful dawn
Especially since you can mount external gun pods
keen sequoia
TRUE
graceful dawn
Average war thunder top tier gameplay
Yeah, when flying my sea harrier I always expect the SARH, my finger hovering over the countermeasure key. If they decide to focus me I often end up having to fly home with my missiles unfired.
Uptiers in that plane are painful
Good thing that R3s are easily dodged
other missiles are just spam chaff and pray
graceful dawn
and tbh my only worry for it is
What is your current experience with rank 7 and 8?
Because it ain't that hard to avoid sarh at extreme range.
keen sequoia
F-4J, pure fucking hell
had to go back to my F-5C to grind the F-14, BEFORE the F-5C was moved up a tier
Maybe im just that shit at notching
graceful dawn
F-4 is actually not that scary. They tend to just spam launch all their sarh
keen sequoia
but i very rarely successfully dodge SARHs
keen sequoia
F-4 is actually not that scary. They tend to just spam launch all their sarh
nah i meant when i was playing the F-4J
considering its a brick
Brick, missile at 4km when im going mach 1 towards it
= death
graceful dawn
Maybe im just that shit at notching
Starting to think that this is a skill issue on your part. If I can take evasive manoeuvres in a subsonic aircraft then idk...
keen sequoia
but the F-4J made me want to kms
keen sequoia
You have an F14? NICE
graceful dawn
How many years have you sunk into this game?
I have been playing for about 2 or 3 on and off
and I only play air RB
because I like planes
keen sequoia
How many years have you sunk into this game?
well, ive had WT in my library for maybe 2 years
but in the beginning
i played for 6 months, got mad because shit economy
came back when i got a new friend group who all played WT
playing it ever since, for about like a year with em
ground and air
highest for my US ground
(Obvi air in my prev pic)
up to here for the germans (With the Turm 3 aswell)
keen sequoia
graceful dawn
yeah that's a nasty plane
graceful dawn
and just getting into the USSR
I will never get into USSR planes outside of east germany as a point of honour bc russian bias.
keen sequoia
fair enough
but yeah, i was gonna buy the german MI-24P HFS 80, but then my friend directed my attention to this beauty
so im just waiting for the sale in about a week
and then ofc im debating whether to get the MIG-23ML or not
graceful dawn
Eh, I know nothing about ground battles in war thunder. I played world of tanks for about five or six years and after briefly trying ground in WT I decided to just never play any sort of ground vehicular combat game again.
I stopped playing WoT because they pisstaking got far too ridiculous.
keen sequoia
fair enough
graceful dawn
How much does the MIG23ML sell for ususally? £70?
50% would not be a bad price but still far too much for a virtual plane imo
keen sequoia
How much does the MIG23ML sell for ususally? £70?
uhhh, not sure about any other currency
but it runs for about 100 AUD
and 50 on sale
graceful dawn
I got disenchanted with that shctick after I quit Wot
graceful dawn
but it runs for about 100 AUD
Kangaroo dollar?
keen sequoia
yep
graceful dawn
50Aud = £25.94
Not terrible.
Where the fuck did you guys go so wrong with your economy... I know about the Covid credit card shit but this has to have gone on longer than 5 years.
keen sequoia
lel
Atleast its not as bad as vietnamese dong
1448 AUD is 20 million vietnamese dong
lmfaoo
graceful dawn
keen sequoia
real
keen sequoia
dong cena on god
graceful dawn
dong cena on god
Apparently if you buy the Mig23ML through steam, you get it a bit cheaper than through the Gajin store, especially when sale.
So you may want to verify that when it comes.
keen sequoia
Apparently if you buy the Mig23ML through steam, you get it a bit cheaper than t...
yeah, i do that will all prem purchases
even though its not much
i still save like $2 lel
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Apparently if you buy the Mig23ML through steam, you get it a bit cheaper than t...
Use a CC code and its already again cheaper on Gaijin store + you get goodies
Comparing it rn and its both 69.99€
Steam and Gaijin Store.
graceful dawn
Use a CC code and its already again cheaper on Gaijin store + you get goodies
CC code?
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CC code?
You get some % off your purchase + decals
Also the CC gets some support in form of GE in a % of the price of the purchase
copper laurel
if the MIG-23ML goes on sale this anniversary, for 50% off
genuanly
i wouldnt spend any money on this piece of shit game
frigid carbon
i wouldnt spend any money on this piece of shit game
i agree with you , fellow tarkov player
frigid carbon
do i buy it or just keep my money
if u want to grind Russia , the SU25K is much better , you just farm bases etc
but it is pretty boring cause the shit is still slow
if you are more of a fighter type guy the ML is the best you can get i guess
keen sequoia
yeah i prefer fighting
frigid carbon
You will play at top tier so the pain will be there
keen sequoia
although, the SU-25 is at a nice 10.3
could also work better with my 2S38 that ill also buy
frigid carbon
ill prob buy the lazur m on germany to finish that grind as well
i need premium anyway
keen sequoia
Only issue is with me buying the SU-25 instead of the mig
its a rank lower
wont be able to research rank 8, which'll include the SU-27 and further planes with max efficency
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ill prob buy the lazur m on germany to finish that grind as well
Lazur is ultra fun imho
keen sequoia
OOO
the su-25 is actually at 10.0
not 10.3
it would be PERFECT for my lineup
only issue, lower rank
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
eternal zenith
if u want to grind Russia , the SU25K is much better , you just farm bases etc
farm bases?
in what, sim?
frigid carbon
in air rb
you can take down 2 bases in 1 run
so if u pull it off for me it was at least 10k rp / 14k SL if i died right after
if u dont die and keep landing and goin back in longer games u get a lot
max i got was 66k rp / 139 sl or smth like that
i bombed 7 bases
eternal zenith
you can take down 2 bases in 1 run
how to even survive that long?
loaded with napalm
carry any air to air too?
keen sequoia
Hmm now im on the fence
frigid carbon
you can carry 8x bombs + 2xr60 + gun if u want max destruction
keen sequoia
MIG-23ML is at top rank, decent fighter
BUT
the SU-25 will fit in perfectly to my lineup
frigid carbon
u also play tanks so SU25 is a bitch there too
keen sequoia
(Ground lineup)
keen sequoia
u also play tanks so SU25 is a bitch there too
yeah
frigid carbon
it literally has every bomb at that BR
and lots of them
ML doesnt have ground CCIP
frigid carbon
so you will aim blind
keen sequoia
ML doesnt have ground CCIP
Yeah, only rockets
and with the ML i wont be able to just slot it in with the 2S38
as its a whole 1.3 BR higher
frigid carbon
tbf i grinded Russia in like 2.5 months from 0 to mig29 only with su25k
it was the only plane i had crewed until MIG 23 MLD
which i replaced after 5 days to mig 29
keen sequoia
tbf i grinded Russia in like 2.5 months from 0 to mig29 only with su25k
Oh yeah ive seen people grind it super quickly
my only worry
is the more modern jets
frigid carbon
your only problem will be the fucking F5C
keen sequoia
your only problem will be the fucking F5C
true
as an F-5C gamer i can confirm its a bitch to fight lmfao
keen sequoia
AS in the short range radar missiles?
oh wait
im just retarded
Ctrl V is paste lmfao
frigid carbon
keen sequoia
frigid carbon
Top Tier is hell anyway
keen sequoia
Ah fuck it ill get the su-25
frigid carbon
The F16 got so powerful now top tier is kinda shit for everyone else
keen sequoia
True
Only reason im thinking about the SU-27 and such is so i can do funny videos and shit on friends in customs 
Hit em with one of these
keen sequoia
SU27 will be in the 3rd row i think
Third row as in the tech tree line?
Most definitely
as all the other SU's are there too
keen sequoia
based
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Next update will be pain
Spading the Mig-29 to get the best Mig-29 ingame
Mig-29G
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A mig29 brought up to Nato standards
frigid carbon
honestly good for germany, their top tier was dogass
eternal zenith
at least there will be italian rank III leo
frigid carbon
and they probably wont get anything better until eurofighter
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F4F Ice
eternal zenith
Gripen
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Someday
frigid carbon
ye grippen would be awesome
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Grippen is still announced for this year
eternal zenith
Is a mitsu F-2 ingame?
keen sequoia
I pray for the F-15 in the december update
frigid carbon
there were also talks for a israelian premium f14a
but i dont think it will be now
too high tier
frigid carbon
isnt the 18 super hornet
eternal zenith
ye
keen sequoia
super hornet
can't wait for that either
frigid carbon
cant wait for raptor
frigid carbon
one day in 2035
keen sequoia
and f-15
sleek fractal
We dont need more powercreep but everyone wants all the stuff
keen sequoia
there were also talks for a israelian premium f14a
That'd be based as fuck
frigid carbon
i agree , they need to change the whole gameplay for the next planes and missiles
keen sequoia
not israel smh
eternal zenith
I pray for the F-15 in the december update
Premium silent eagle
keen sequoia
Anyways
the Iranian F-14 as a prem would be cool
love the camo they have for it
frigid carbon
W I D E
eternal zenith
Anyone know about the Yugo J-22?
keen sequoia
I was about to say the MIG-29SMT is the first jet for the russian tree that is actually labeled Russian, instead of USSR
BUT
that title belongs to the SU-39
eternal zenith
wonder what they based it on, or if they developed it "from scratch"
eternal zenith
that title belongs to the SU-39
rather Yak-130, hmm?
eternal zenith
idk. hard to draw the line of whats a upgrade or completely new craft
Also NATO's name for the An-22...
keen sequoia
NATO's name for the MIG-15 is funnier
keen sequoia
rather Yak-130, hmm?
where's the YAK-130?
keen sequoia
ye
frigid carbon
ye we are starting with RUAF vehicles now
keen sequoia
Yeah
keen sequoia
Fulcrum
frigid carbon
Romania should have aquired back then the NATO version of the mig29 as well but it was scrapped
It would have been called MIG29 Sniper
keen sequoia
When i get the mig-29
frigid carbon
keen sequoia
im actually gonna learn how to use thrust vectoring
frigid carbon
why dont i have the skins
keen sequoia
so the first time i use it in a custom with my mates
i can just do some top gun shit and defy physics
eternal zenith
spread that air break
frigid carbon
sadly they nerfed the flight model
keen sequoia
yeah
thats it
i had to look up the video i watched ages ago for WT
and yeah, split throttle
i've seen people do crazy shit with it
frigid carbon
sadge
keen sequoia
probably before the nerf
actually the vid wasnt that long ago
which, was still prolly before the nerf
idk
like
some of the shit in this vid is crazy
keen sequoia
I still wish that Gaijin brings back air craft carriers to air rb
i wanna use my Tomcat the way it was meant to be used
frigid carbon
so the next sale and update will be next week i reckon
i need my premium back , grinding top tier with standard account is so bad
3 kills i barely get 6k xp
Fucking Snail
keen sequoia
so the next sale and update will be next week i reckon
it will
the sale usually starts around 1st of nov
I'll be sad once my premium time goes
only got like 45 days left
the whole 180 days was good fun
I'll get another 20 with the mig-23ML pack (Which i have confirmed i am just gonna buy that now)
frigid carbon
im prob gonna get the lazur and maybe the f5c or the kfir
or maybe i should go for sweden in the anticipation of the grippen
keen sequoia
F-5C 100%
shit is such a good grinder
and now you can grind the entire tree with it
keen sequoia
Not really imo
my journey was pretty cruisey
APART from the F-14 rank
well
i got to the f-14 before they moved it up a rank
so, the whole tree should be smooth asf if you buy the f-5c
which is just such a banger plane
what prems do you have rn, @frigid carbon ?
south pendant
F-5C 100%
oh yeah I've heard great things about f5-c
although if I'm gonna buy a us premium this time around I'd go for something lower rank
dull inlet
eternal zenith
they tailing you or how did you splode them?
sleek fractal
soft oracle
Daym
zinc hatch
what
untold lark
seems balanced
frigid carbon
Tanc
keen sequoia
although if I'm gonna buy a us premium this time around I'd go for something low...
Got your eyes on any specific?
keen sequoia
su25k and spsk
I see
And @frigid carbon What tree are yoy more interested in/ Have more research on?
German or US?
burnt chasm
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cold lichen
and moffet boat
"Moffet" 
Casual SL grinder I see
with that 1800% SL modifier in RB
keen sequoia
What exactly is the difference between the aim-9Gs and the aim-9Hs?
frigid carbon
Casual SL grinder I see
ngl using a 200% booster on that bitch and getting 200k per game where u just sat behind an island and shot over it
frigid carbon
I see
well im kinda halfawy through germany already so imm afinish this + they will get the mig29G which apparently is pog
and US or maybe Israel for the F16
But sweden caught my eye too for the grippen later
keen sequoia
I see
uh, i'd def reckon the F-5C
mixed with either the lazur M or a swedish prem
frigid carbon
ye f5c is just no brainer
keen sequoia
any other premiums you have in mind of buying?
oh and @frigid carbon You play ground or just air?
keen sequoia
Fair enough
frigid carbon
pain and suffering
keen sequoia
the F-4S could also be a good pick for you
Well, actually nvm
its just a higher BR and it doesnt even have the perk of being a rank higher now
So yeah, F-5C, the funny dorito swedish plane, Lazur M, or you could also go the F-4EJ for the japanese
depends on what nations you want the funny fighters for
soft oracle
For ground I recommend CV90105
sleek fractal
the F-4S could also be a good pick for you
At least it has agile eagle slats unlike the J(UK) or Japanese ADTW.
Still all 3 are part of the worse F4 Versions in the Game.Cant recommend.
serene birch
Still all 3 are part of the worse F4 Versions in the Game.Cant recommend.
F-4S is top 3 of the best wdym lmao
sleek fractal
F-4S is top 3 of the best wdym lmao
Lol nah theres better ones like the Kurnass
serene birch
top 3
sleek fractal
F4F both versions are pretty good for their BR
serene birch
They're really not tho
sleek fractal
Skill issue
serene birch
It's literally at the same level as the F-4E
sleek fractal
We can agree on one point
serene birch
(well the non-Early anyway)
serene birch
Kurnass 2000 followed very closely by EJ Kai and then F-4S
sleek fractal
Ice probaly incoming too
serene birch
those are the top F-4s
sleek fractal
Grippen is planned for this year so thats gonna be fun
Il still consider the F4S not worth it cause of its price tag and theres better free alternatives
serene birch
Kurnass 2000 has Pythons and 6 of them at that.
EJ Kai has an F-16 radar which makes it immensely powerful going monkey with missiles.
F-4S is a better F-4J with slats and 9Hs
F-4S just gets a bad wrap because 99.5% of its playerbase uses it as a groundpounder or they know nothing about how to use SARHs properly
serene birch
Yeah well if bro is gonna sink money anyway might as well get something good
sleek fractal
I agree
serene birch
rather than GE'ing his way to the top which costs even more money lmao
serene birch
mixed with either the lazur M or a swedish prem
Lazur is kinda mid since it gets thrown it with the 12.0s now
keen sequoia
yeah
serene birch
before 12.0s tho 100% the lazur
keen sequoia
for that, i'd say the dorito plane and the f-5c for iedy
serene birch
What exactly is the difference between the aim-9Gs and the aim-9Hs?
better trackrate
keen sequoia
for the H?
serene birch
yeah
12.0 secs to 20.0
iirc
might be 14 to 20
also this is making me wanna eat paint
serene birch
i just want the slightly less shitty phoenixes :((((
keen sequoia
serene birch
on the bright side the spading of aircraft has nearly finished off my american air tree
if GAIJIN would stop adding thingst othe F-4 that would be nice
i gave up re-spading it after the like 3rd time
soft oracle
Begone bot
south pendant
Got your eyes on any specific?
probably the spitfire or the f2g-1 based on what I've seen from premium recommendations
keen sequoia
true
south pendant
although tbh I just feel like the f5c might be a bit too much for trying to learn air combat right off the bat
I'll have to think about it a bit more
keen sequoia
Well the F-5C was my first high tier plane
I had only gotten to like 5.0 german air before i bougth the F-5C for the US
and it was a pretty good learning plane, because, well how good it is
sleek fractal
Its a wheeled CV
What do you want more?
For the current price i would say yes
If it gets over 30gjn i vote for no
eternal zenith
does anybody know if the ct cv is worth it
It's pretty alright. Wheel tanks are the shit but the low bonus compared to the premium kinda blows.
Side note: I've started using the Falarick rocket more than the Sabot recently, very satisfying having 20-30 tandem HEAT rockets ready.
One thing I dislike is how there's a few different concepts for the CT-CV floating around. One implies 2 more crew, one radio and one additional loader. There's a 2crew + driver layout (like in game right now) too but I still believe more crew would help balance it out more
south pendant
what's a good german premium in the aviation tree?
eternal zenith
It's the one currently offered in warbond shop right?
serene birch
what's a good german premium in the aviation tree?
Depends on rank and playstyle
south pendant
Depends on rank and playstyle
thoughts on Lazur-M?
serene birch
not worth it anymore
R-60Ms are not gonna do it anymore with F-16s and MiG-29s
not that it’s bad but you just wont have fun
the lazur used to be a really good dogfighter and stuff but now f-16s will dog on you with 11gs of funny freedom
serene birch
the Swiss hunter is a good vehicle
put a talisman on it
9Js and flares at 9.7
plus hunter airframe which is good
eternal zenith
the Swiss hunter is a good vehicle
rly? I heard it's bad for some reason. Started to research british squad jet because of that
serene birch
if someone says the hunter is bad thats a skill issue
yeah the ones without flares get bullied cause no flares vs all aspect IRs but this one has flares B)
eternal zenith
Playing top-ish tier without flares even possible?
eternal zenith
I'm barely able to keep up with flying now I gotta keep flares in mind all while trying to get a missile lock
serene birch
besides I used to take like 1-2 pods of FFARs or Mighty RAT to act as flares lol
eternal zenith
oh that's pretty ingenious
keen sequoia
what's a good german premium in the aviation tree?
Lazur M
Actually not the lazur, i keep forgetting its at 11.0
serene birch
Actually not the lazur, i keep forgetting its at 11.0
yeah r-60ms are a lil infuriating at 12.0 lol
keen sequoia
@south pendant Now that im actually in WT looking at it, germany doesn't have any good air prems
the lazur M is your only high tier one
and that'll get slammed into 12.0 matches
eternal zenith
@keen sequoia you played tier III germany yet after tigor BR nerf?
copper laurel
<@125272408440569858> Now that im actually in WT looking at it, germany doesn't ...
yeah prems are shit
but
counter argument
mig23ml
or mf
keen sequoia
mig23ml
yeah i know, im talking about prems for a different guy
im buying the ML for the USSR when the sale is here
aswell as the 2S38
copper laurel
aswell as the 2S38
cringey
keen sequoia
ok
eternal zenith
why can't I finish this perpetual skill issue today
serene birch
why can't I finish this perpetual skill issue today
do you have KV-1E
easy to get etiher heavy metal hero or survivor with it
eternal zenith
do you have KV-1E
Why would you rec a premium tank? What's your thought process here besides some weird flex?
serene birch
it goes on sale almost every year???
i dont really see how thats a flex
calm down buckaroo
i asked if you had it my guy
a yes or no would suffice lmao
eternal zenith
Preem tanks just garbage in my eyes regardless of how op / meta they are cause I hate the snail
but yeah, only reason I play the game is trying to make p2w players feel bad
serene birch
uhh okay
eternal zenith
Chi-Nu bonkers
After god knows how many hours US top I played 5 rounds and got HMH/Punisher 3 times 
sleek fractal
but yeah, only reason I play the game is trying to make p2w players feel bad
The only p2w aspect is buying Crew lvls though
Dabbing on new players with a new acc. 150 Ace crew and reserve Tanks.
eternal zenith
The only p2w aspect is buying Crew lvls though <:kekw:919974270132711444>
Surely premium tanks getting some of the most effective warheads and "bugged" damage model wouldn't count as P2W
yada yada it ain't real I get it
sleek fractal
Most of those premiums are either Event or early Warbond vehicles
eternal zenith
still excusing premium by saying it helps the grind is missing the point
eternal zenith
yeah, I don't think getting premiums should be encouraged within the playerbase. the company should not need to be supported...
sleek fractal
Then you already lost
You spend time with the game
If you dont want to support it,dont use the product
keen sequoia
eternal zenith
by playing f2p you already support it.
eternal zenith
otherwise you'd have bunch of premium players fight each other... vast playerbase is f2p
this should be enough is my point. The greedy gacha style shouldn't be encouraged within the player base is my point
no harm in doing it if you feel it but actively telling people to put dollars into it seems toxic
sleek fractal
Thats why i only ever suggest the one year premium on sale
eternal zenith
sleek fractal
Its a complete misconception in the community that premium Vehicles are good for grinding
sleek fractal
<:perplexe:975397814563635200>
Its 30 bucks.Which you can get for free if you sell Event Vehicle coupons.
You can get everything for free if your smart
Look at the Moderna
160gjn for a coupon
I still got 2
320 bucks for free which i can exchange into GE
Snowballing
keen sequoia
Its a complete misconception in the community that premium Vehicles are good for...
See now premium vehicles AND premium time is where the real good grinding begins 
eternal zenith
yeh, that can be encouraged. But looking at most forums it's actively encouraging people to put big money in. The amount of discussion threads saying get x pack and y pack during sale meaning at least 60-80$ is insane
sleek fractal
The most effective way to grind is just to play the game cause you get xtra RP for spading and playing the earlier vehicle in the tree.You generate a healthy amount of SL til you get the next Vehicle AND learn the game properly.
Thats the problem within this community
BUY A 10.0 TO GRIND
eternal zenith
my point. the premium fomo is strong
sleek fractal
Yeah die your way through the tree,dont learn the game and get rekt on 12.0 later on
eternal zenith
then the dopamine hook takes hold on the whales getting more and more "meta" premiums, spading crew to gain an edge just to be reset once balance hits
sleek fractal
I could tell ya all what CC's get for free.Theres 3 levels of CC but then i get in trouble.
keen sequoia
I could tell ya all what CC's get for free.Theres 3 levels of CC but then i get ...
do it no balls
sleek fractal
Me about to buy the 2S38 at 10.0 to grind the USSR ground:
If you get a su 25 and a Turms then its not even bad
Except for the money loss
eternal zenith
Me about to buy the 2S38 at 10.0 to grind the USSR ground:
week after you buy the 2s38... puma gets spike missiles and buffed proxy warheads
sleek fractal
do it no balls
Nah all i can tell is maybe another Play4Peace event next year 
keen sequoia
If you get a su 25 and a Turms then its not even bad
I'm only buying the 2S38 instead of the turms because i WAS gonna buy the MI-24P HFS 80 but then decided nahhhhh fuck that AFTER i had already bought the GE so now im just buying the 2S38 and the MIG-23ML (Yes i know they're different BRs but eh im cracked lemme cook)
eternal zenith
gaijin devs just waiting for llama to buy the russian meme machine to switch the meta back to germany or france 
keen sequoia
gaijin devs just waiting for llama to buy the russian meme machine to switch the...
I'm cracked anyway lemme cook
eternal zenith
Nah all i can tell is maybe another Play4Peace event next year <:Chadge:10935065...
that play4peace thing seems so weird and tone deaf for some reason. Always made me think it's some tax credit scheme
keen sequoia
what even if the play4peace event
sleek fractal
that play4peace thing seems so weird and tone deaf for some reason. Always made ...
Nah its not,it was a good cause and organised by players
sleek fractal
that play4peace thing seems so weird and tone deaf for some reason. Always made ...
Gaijin fuckers even rewoked tri colour smoke twitch drop for it
2 days before the events
eternal zenith
no clue how it works in hungary or w/e but close to 100k in giveaways is surely tax exempt / reduced
sure with a xxx million yearly profit that's just a drop in the ocean
sleek fractal
Was sponsored by Gaijin obviously
They pull that out of nothing
Was also from us
Our Squadron 
And that just now
Lol im for Noaim what Josta is here on Gamma Discord
I can say for sure that Gaijin had a change of Staff this year and that the new public speakers you gotta approach for Events/Sponsorship etc. are massive assholes and are breaking agreements that were made years ago.
Also do you know when the patch will come? Not those next 2 weeks due the Esports Tournaments.They told em they can fuck off for now.
German casters are also Noaim Streamers.Luftwaffel and Zetsuubou
ruby rain
typical fuckin Odd.
"such a bad tank
"overtiered
"doesnt suit my playstyle at all
8 k/d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zyzZ3Es3p0
sleek fractal
Hmmmm
Olivia was the only "leaker" that was accurate.But Olivia also stopped datamining earlier this year.Sooooooo im spreading ultra fake news rn or something so accurate that its gonna be a massive joke
serene birch
@keen sequoia are you getting the VARK
sleek fractal
Shooting Surströming
Finnland getting that Abrams they tested along side the T-80
Germany getting Challenger and Abrams cause of Poland
Gaijin will think about something.Like the Gripen.Theres already 3 Nations that can get it.
fluid trout
MFW the Turm 3 player gets too confident 
serene birch
mig-29s for america when
ruby rain
MFW the Turm 3 player gets too confident <:TROLLED:1049997185703481415>
Germain forgor he has no armour lol
fluid trout
MFW 50 cal pens driver's hatch on M4A1
Turm 3 players are either absolute menaces or tards, no real in between. those not good enough to do decent with it die because it has no armor, those decent with it can decimate
bonus pseuodo-Tsar Bomba T-28
ruby rain
Do Chinese tanks just not have neutral steer?