🛩war-thunder

[stray bane]

I was using the arcade targeting cross hair backwards

In my defense, I was in a lot of pain when I was playing the tutorial missions.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/15rpbhg/so_i_tried_wt_mobile_and_i_got_a_noti_saying_that/

[stray bane]

Sound investment

[sturdy pulsar]

Iirc, it's a set of 3-4 tanks

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doesnt look like it and it neither says that its more than 1 Tank

[sturdy pulsar]

I know for a fact + Platoon

Its the Panther and a few others

Tiers in there are groups of 4 tanks

3-5

I tell you this cause I play it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pig2HmCvUfg

Idk how this man finds the least aware players

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Then they have to indicate that better.

[sturdy pulsar]

Yeah

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Cause as someone never touching that app it looks kinda sus

[sturdy pulsar]

How it looks when tapping info

All prem

Let me check how much this costs actually

About 90 euros

[stray bane]

That last tank - Bulletlighting
cool name lmao

[sturdy pulsar]

so this one probably is actually worth like 70 and the 60% discount bit is manipulative bullshit

[sleek fractal]

Your pack there is sus

Theres a Panther G

The one from Reddit has a Panther D

[sturdy pulsar]

Yeah it's not the same pack

you need to click on the blue I

to see all the tanks in a pack

but it says Platoon/Peloton

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Ok

[sturdy pulsar]

it's "Tiger 2 Platoon" but u see it has like

3 more tanks

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Yeah its kinda dumb xD

No one is believing that its more than 1 tank rn

🤷‍♂️

Im not using the app so i stop bothering now anyway

Such prices in a mobile game are a scam anyway

[sturdy pulsar]

Ye

Never spend money on mobile games ever

[stray bane]

Do not give the snail your money

[arctic granite]

This

Better yet don't spend money on predatory practices like war thunder to begin with

[stray bane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/873328170848387125/1141099392967905411/caption.gif

[shut portal]

my god

you don't say?

[sturdy pulsar]

[stray bane]

Day 2 and I already hate this game

I'd shoot myself with my 37mm cannon but I don't think it'd have enough power to actually kill me

Is the M4A3 any better or am I just wasting my time?

[stray bane]

I don't know if I should be concerned by that react

[sleek fractal]

You made the mistake to play one of the big 3

[stray bane]

But I like Shermans

[sleek fractal]

Get used to it that you get clapped because of the skill gap between you and every lvl 100 player

[stray bane]

I did RB for a little bit and I couldn't deal with getting 1-tapped by everything
So I went to Arcade and got one-tapped there instead
Now I'm the proud owner of an M4A3

Should of just went full reserve because the M2A4 was the only thing I was having any luck with

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Arcade is just who shoots faster

RB is that too except the enemy cant see you so its easier to shoot faster

[stray bane]

I've been shooting faster but if I don't get that engine/driver shot then I'm toast

A soviet looks at me and I'm already dead

I see why people suck that tree off so hard

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A soviet.Thats the only thing your armor is effective against

[stray bane]

It hasn't been working very well
M3 Stuart gaming

I might just have the largest skill issue

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Just slightly angle the sherman

[stray bane]

First game with the Sherman now
I was getting my ass beat in the Stuart tho

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Everything before the Sherman has no armor at all so it doesnt matter

[eternal zenith]

moving during arcade fucks with most plebians relying on hit indicator

just do the wiggle and they'll be cussing in chat about how it didn't pen

[stray bane]

Penetrating armor wasn't my issue
It's that 37mm does fuck all to the crew compared to what I'm being shot with

[eternal zenith]

why not play SPGs at this rank and be done with it?

[keen sequoia]

Low tier soviet TDs hit hard

Do yourself a favor while you get used to the game

Go the USSR

focus on the ISU line

they have big guns for low tier

@stray bane Go for this bad boy

You should always 1 tap with it at 2.3

Should be fun for you while you learn the game

[stray bane]

I love my slow ass child

[eternal zenith]

ZIS-30 goat

It's almost as good as the marder III

[keen sequoia]

Nothing beats the marder 3

It's too based

[light wagon]

Beware of the BOSSS players

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Or Krieg,HONK,Astro or Noaim

If you meet Luftwaffel from Noaim you quickly become one of his kills

That was 10.3 with the Abrams

Best player i know

[light wagon]

I was talking about low tier seal clubbing

for GAB

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They all do that

Especialy Streamers when it gets requested

[light wagon]

yup

your only way to stop suffering @stray bane is to stop playing
Or find people to play with.

[arctic granite]

Did you just start playing...

[arctic granite]

I probably have more hours than anyone here, don't play this game. It's not worth your time.

[keen sequoia]

@eternal zenith

We can research helis with ground vehicles now

[eternal zenith]

uuh, neat

like without even playing helis?

[keen sequoia]

Yes.

[sturdy pulsar]

Yup

jus<t posted

[eternal zenith]

cool stuff

imagine they do it vice versa, play heli pve to research ground units

[sturdy pulsar]

ground pve is a thing

[keen sequoia]

Does anyone know where I can find base game skins in WT?

Like where i can find the default camo for the russian MI-24P?

I wanna yoink that and slap it on the german MI-24P so i can just have a russian looking one

[eternal zenith]

you mean as a custom user skin?

[keen sequoia]

Yeah like just grabbing the default MI-24Ps USSR camo, and just replacing the german MI-24P file

not an actual user made skin tho

[sturdy pulsar]

can't you "generate" the base mi-24 one

and then make it for P

I dunno how

I?m sure it's on Wiki/Live/CDK

[keen sequoia]

oh wait hang on

let me cook

[eternal zenith]

if you have the USSR one unlocked you can create a custom skin, then take the file and edit it

[keen sequoia]

ok so i generated a template for the me262

so this should just be the normal 262's file

SO

let's say this is the mi-24

[eternal zenith]

change the to:t= to the german one

[keen sequoia]

yes

Only problem is

I don't have the USSR mi-24P

so i kinda need to find the file for that

just in the normal game files

i was hoping there'd just be the stock mi-24P USSR skin on war thunder live that was made to be a user skin for the german one

i was wrong :(

[eternal zenith]

just checked around and seems like snail don't like users sharing default skins

[keen sequoia]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

fuck the snail

[eternal zenith]

like they be banning people for asking

[keen sequoia]

i want my german MI-24P with a USSR camo

[sturdy pulsar]

Probably because people keep ripping the models and skins for Mods

lol

[keen sequoia]

there should be a folder in the local files of just "FUCKING SKINS"

[sturdy pulsar]

Gates of Hell had a few WT mods get slapped

[keen sequoia]

"SKINS RIGHT FUCKING HERE"

but there is not

this has ruined my plans

[eternal zenith]

more than a year later

still nothing btw

[keen sequoia]

[eternal zenith]

ohnonono

I know what I must do but I don't know if I have the strength to do it

[keen sequoia]

what

[eternal zenith]

no I actually don't know where I was going with that

https://youtu.be/NyX1poJz5Bo

[arctic granite]

I guess helicopter game modes were so dead they decided to leech off the tank player pool

Next we will be able to research boats with planes :)

[eternal zenith]

lmao

[arctic granite]

They should have just set up a system where after you finish a tree all rp gets collected until a new vehicle is added

[trail briar]

what's the new event vehicle?

[eternal zenith]

new US snow camo dropped

[eternal zenith]

SU-25BM & CT-CV 105

mid'ish from the test drive

and some boat, but who cares

[keen sequoia]

and you can't forget the new M1A1 SIMP

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1096461113115291658/1141397888497356921/image.png

[eternal zenith]

[keen sequoia]

[sturdy pulsar]

Lmao Falco slapped Jokerz for that

For that kind of skin so uh

beware

[eternal zenith]

deserved tbh

[keen sequoia]

the funny

[stray bane]

the funny

[keen sequoia]

@eternal zenith

truly a 4x MG42 moment

and now it's 2:30AM so i'm gonna snooze

and @eternal zenith

this was at 48k

5k in one match

heli grinding will go so fast now

[stray bane]

Killed another M4 like 10 seconds into an arcade match

HE my beloved

[arctic granite]

I foresee a lot of helicopters being used soon, time to actually bring AA

Heavies being buffed is a blessing from god

Now only if we could get some good BRs for nations other than Germany

[stray bane]

Hold an angle the whole game
catch a guy off guard
shoot at his side armor with APHE
Doesn't pen
killing myself now

I've gotten like 2 kills in 10 games

*

[arctic granite]

Should have bought more premium

[stray bane]

"low tier fun tier"
my ass

[arctic granite]

It only gets worse the higher the BR

[stray bane]

I hate that this game is so addicting because
"Maybe this will be the match that I get a good position and actually manage to kill more than one person"

Tarkov is miles more fun than this
I usually don't get mad at games but this one

[arctic granite]

You're like 11 years too late to get good at this game

[stray bane]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-myself-gif-18155463

Should have played when I was 9

Don't get into military stuff kids
all the games either don't scratch the itch right or suck

[arctic granite]

Genuinely, you have to play against people like me who know every nook and cranny while knowing every armor plate's thickness and weaknesses

It's not worth it

[stray bane]

I had fun during my first session when I was playing against people my skill level

One I went beyond 1.0 I started getting curb stomped

[arctic granite]

Yeah I can go to 20-0 every other game at 1.7-3.3

[stray bane]

I gotta quit playing games that require 500 hours before they start getting fun

[arctic granite]

I took my calliope out yesterday and was bodying dudes at 1200m with M8s

[stray bane]

I'm at 3.0 and everyone is a god gamer except for me

[arctic granite]

This game is usually around 2,500 hours but you only have a imitation of fun

[stray bane]

I'll just stay below 5.0 and it should be a nice casual experience

Right?

[arctic granite]

Even 4.0 is extremely competitive

Because assholes like me go there to relax

[stray bane]

I've got 10 days before college and i don't know if it's worth spending learning every single angle you can get shot from on every map

[arctic granite]

Yeah don't bother with this game bro

Genuinely, play something else

My honest recommendation

[stray bane]

I'm starting to lose my patience with multiplayer games

I'm not gonna be able to keep up anymore because I'm not a high schooler with no responsibilites

[arctic granite]

This game doesn't even give you the satisfaction of finishing a tree, it's a hollow victory

[stray bane]

TF2 nailed casual multiplayer and I need more games like that

Probably why I've got 4.5k hours on it

CSGO broke me in less than 500

full-time job ass games

deep rock will be my savior

[arctic granite]

I luh Team fortress

What do you main

[sturdy pulsar]

the issue is that pvp games became less having about fun

and more about constantly winning, grinding

challenges, etc

just tryhardism

[stray bane]

I bounced between classes a bunch but Soldier, Demo, and Medic are my favorite

The funny thing is
The hardcore milsims feel more casual than other shooters.
Squad is great because its a bunch of dads hanging out in voice coms and working together.

[arctic granite]

More about making money and turning a profit*

[stray bane]

Mobile game strats

[arctic granite]

Competitive games are definitely fun, but the system is designed to enrage and infuriate players so they spend money to progress

[sturdy pulsar]

Irrelevant

[arctic granite]

🧢

[sturdy pulsar]

even competitive games that are not F2P

[stray bane]

Engagement based stuff sucks

MWII is like that

[sturdy pulsar]

work in the same tryhard toxic meta bullshit

cod

battlefield, etc

Battlebits

F2P means they just try to grind you down with time

either time or money

[arctic granite]

All inherently fun games due to their lack of aggressive monetization

[sturdy pulsar]

Lmao sure

I didn't say they werne't fun

[stray bane]

If you're not using (gun) then you and your mom are gaу

[sturdy pulsar]

I said that they're full of toxic tryhard bullshit that all pvp games are nowadays

[sturdy pulsar]

Literally this mindset

[arctic granite]

I mean even casual games suffer from that, it's not exactly exclusive to the fps genre

[sturdy pulsar]

I said "pvp games"

please read before you start setting off

[stray bane]

Coop is the future fellow gamers

[sturdy pulsar]

DRG based

Terraria Based

Minecraft (Modded)

[arctic granite]

No need to get upset little guy, all game genres can suffer from similar ailments

[sturdy pulsar]

[stray bane]

Gonna play DRG with my brother later

[sturdy pulsar]

Good shit

[arctic granite]

Pebble and Boulder

[stray bane]

Mineral and Granite

[arctic granite]

DRG tickles my scrotum in all the right ways

[stray bane]

DRG channel when

[arctic granite]

An excellent way of community interaction and team building exercises

[stray bane]

I may be a filthy scout enjoyer but atleast I know what my flare-gun is

[sturdy pulsar]

Wdym

You don't play all of em?

[stray bane]

I haven't played much so I'm trying to get one promoted

[arctic granite]

Scout gang

[sturdy pulsar]

ahhh

Naruhodo~

[stray bane]

I have a crippling addiction to mobility mechanics as well

[sturdy pulsar]

Unironically

Driller

[stray bane]

Driller! The MULE is here

[arctic granite]

uoooooooh I finally got my rig back

time to jam

[arctic granite]

so is the 1947 back to being the best T-54

[keen sequoia]

5.3 germany, young one

[stray bane]

Is this too shitposty for this channel

[keen sequoia]

No

Good meme

[stray bane]

🤝 stolen with love

[keen sequoia]

[arctic granite]

This is bait, don't fall for the Germany 5.3 meme, the tanks might be heavily under tiered but it's because only mouth breathers and troglodytes play German 5.3

[sturdy pulsar]

Real BRUH moment

How it didn't fuse??

[arctic granite]

Infinite calculations

[keen sequoia]

nothing to fall for

it's a fun BR

it's that simple

[arctic granite]

Yeah no, the vehicles winrates decreased when they were lowered in BR. Play 4.7 or 6.3 instead

Don't recommend tumultuous battle ratings to new players, it's an asshole move

US 3.3, Russian 3.7 or German 3.3 are much better alternatives

[keen sequoia]

Bro really just recommended 6.3 over 5.3

[arctic granite]

Kwk 43s and front plates up to 150mm facing Shermans? Yeah I absolutely would. It's genuinely easier because the BR is skewed so hard

On a good day I'll fight T-34s, on a bad day I'll fight IS-3s I can just railgun oh no

[sturdy pulsar]

Bro

Just play UK

[eternal zenith]

Man If you already managed to unlock the german tier I tank grinding points is so hilariously easy

[sturdy pulsar]

It's a Puma Lite

[eternal zenith]

fr

and you can just pair it with a 20mm, get one kill and then pawn with the autocannon

[arctic granite]

Jagdpanthers, Tiger II P, a handful of good panthers, broken AA guns, ridiculously good CAS and even a handful of fast platforms with heat, 6.3 is goat for Germany

[arctic granite]

They nerfed the dogshit out of 20mm hvap

[eternal zenith]

huh, I played the 1.7 AA today and had a blast.

49mm pen with payload

[arctic granite]

It used to be 65mm

But it's a good thing because German AA has always been too good

[eternal zenith]

true. but they didn't have to nerv the coelian and kugelblitz tho

[arctic granite]

They kinda did, the kugel was raping dudes with it's 103mm pen hvap

[eternal zenith]

93mm wasn't it?

but yeah, I liked playing it

[arctic granite]

I'm surprised the M19/42 are so low in BR

The duster used to be 6.7 lmaooo

[sturdy pulsar]

The duster was a fucking menace

reminds me of the Zsu

[arctic granite]

It's been absolute garbage up until they added desynchronized fire

[light wagon]

the same shit happened to me but I was in a 279 and I was shooting at a type16

[arctic granite]

hmmm

[sturdy pulsar]

[arctic granite]

Britain can have a couple good ATGM launchers

as a treat

[sturdy pulsar]

😔 ATGM and Heat need a buff

Me when I see a A-10 atgm hit a tank and it doesn't pop like a poptart

[arctic granite]

honestly those work fine but APDS/APCR suck total shit

[sturdy pulsar]

ah right

didn't they get ultrafucked

like this latest major

[arctic granite]

they've never been good

APCR acts like the penetrator doesn't fragment and APDS is always a dice roll

the entire penetration/shell system needs a rework since none of the shells act properly

APCBC acts like TNT when it should be closer to AP with a minor post pen effect

[eternal zenith]

wth

[sleek fractal]

TBH thats what every BVM Player deserves

[arctic granite]

deranged germoid hands made this post

[sleek fractal]

THey both deserve to get fucked xD

obviously

BVM for having way to much armor and Germains i dont need to explain

[arctic granite]

It's not like you can't kill the BVM I don't see why people complain about it

it's the same exact weakspots as the last 12 variations of T-64/72

[eternal zenith]

BVM just has way to OP reactive armor

all soviet top tier really

[sleek fractal]

Because the reactive armor doesnt work like it should and eats way to many rounds YEP

Especialy now since we know how it works irl xD

its proven to be shit.

[eternal zenith]

nono, that wasn't the good ones. They didn't use those yet

also the autoloader should have a chance to rip the gunners hand off

[arctic granite]

M829A3 moment

Sounds more like a ammo balance moment

Which shouldn't be a thing!

Panther at 5.7 instead of the same exact tank at 6.0 because it doesn't have APCR

[eternal zenith]

so dumb...

[sturdy pulsar]

I'm still

not sure how they do balancing or why the refuse to decompress top tier br

maybe because it will lead to longer MM times?

but more balanced games

[arctic granite]

Because it makes them money

[sturdy pulsar]

that kinda boils down to all of their main decisions

[arctic granite]

Longer MM times is CAP

[eternal zenith]

having the meta locked behind paywall seems like a good money making scheme

[sturdy pulsar]

Yeah

I think the best money scheme is premium doesn't lose SL

But vehicles are incredibly steep unless you only play WT

cause a tier 5+ is a new game basically

or like groceries for the week

or going out to eat 2-3 times

[stray bane]

Would it make upper tiers more bearable to play if people who haven't been playing for >5 years had a chance of actually reaching it without paying.
Less of a crusty sweat-fest and more of an actual game

[sturdy pulsar]

yeah the RP rework can't come soon enough

and the slash and foldering shit

[sleek fractal]

You can reach it in 3 Months with 2 Nations if your dedicated and use Premium time.

[stray bane]

Key word
Not giving the snail my precious dolans

[sleek fractal]

1 year premium fir 30 bucks

The only thing worth buying on sale

[stray bane]

It's 99 last time I checked unless

[sleek fractal]

Anniversary sale in october

[stray bane]

I just spent 3.5k on college because I'm Am*rican

[sleek fractal]

Differs for countries too cause dollaroo prices are not like euro

[stray bane]

Not including the fucking loan 😭

Probably like 45 us freedom bucks then

[sleek fractal]

Lel sucks to be american in many regards tbh

[stray bane]

Greatest country on earth

[sturdy pulsar]

Lmao

Unironically

[stray bane]

At least we have guns which I also cannot afford

[sturdy pulsar]

College is not worth it

[sleek fractal]

You cant even call an ambulance without swimming in debt as a normal folk

[sturdy pulsar]

at least nowadays

[sleek fractal]

Anyway

[stray bane]

I want a concealed carry Sherman

[sleek fractal]

That premium on sale is really worth it

And we will see what the rp changes will do around next week

[stray bane]

Is American particularly hard for noobs or are all the trees like that?

[sturdy pulsar]

idiot proof is soviet

American is medium of the pack

german is also good

but y'know

german teammates

[stray bane]

I get 0-1 kills a game
Idk if thats normal or not

[sleek fractal]

The playerbase,not the tree itself

Us and Germany gets you retard teams

Unless US 7.7+ on US server

Germany is always trash teams

China and Sweden are pretty good

And Russia is just idiot proof as already said

[stray bane]

Mouth breathers
Pwease give Tiger BR reduction 🥺

[sleek fractal]

Israel is also pretty good but requires skill

[stray bane]

Japan any good?

[sleek fractal]

Ha

No

[stray bane]

Zamn

No weebs allowed

[sleek fractal]

They fucked japan

[stray bane]

Britain bad

[sleek fractal]

And you dont want to suffer until it gets goid xD

Britain is nice

[stray bane]

Which is sad because I like the Firefly

[sleek fractal]

Especialy 100000 challengers

[stray bane]

Slightly challenged

Kinda split between trying soviet and ingerland because I like those tanks irl

I dont wanna get bulldozed by the most braindead KV-2 of all time

[sleek fractal]

Lel

Try both

Play both til like 4.7 which is fast

Then play the one further that you like better

[stray bane]

People say American is really good up to a certain point but I think that's only if you're experienced enough to take advantage of it.

None of that idiot proofing for noobs like me

[sleek fractal]

Abrams are all fun

10.3 Abrams is the best tank on its BR

Imho

[stray bane]

I'm weird
I only like cold war and beyond jets
And cold war and earlier tanks

Mostly ww2 stuff

DCS is my jet playground

[sleek fractal]

Nice

I still want to get a HOTAS

[stray bane]

I got the T.16000

[eternal zenith]

it's a great stick

easily one of the best money/value joysticks out there

I need to learn how to fly helis with it, use the mouse to shoot the cannons

[stray bane]

It's no Warthog but it's also half the price and damn good for it

[eternal zenith]

the warthog stick is the same as the t16000

internally at least

[stray bane]

Tried China out and I'm already doing a bit better

Unlearning years of FPS ADADAD spam

[arctic granite]

I'm getting a gunfighter IV

[stray bane]

nice

[sturdy pulsar]

Is there any "good" griding tier in the Israeli tier

I fear once I get out of the M51 I'll get Magach'd

[arctic granite]

It's all cents and modified cents

[sturdy pulsar]

I only live the Merkavas

😩

[arctic granite]

your only other options are pattons and soviet MBTs

okay...

[ruby rain]

Do yall play premium tanks?

[arctic granite]

Yeah

[stray bane]

Wait
Is bottom tier getting seal clubbed right now because of the event or is it always like that.

[light wagon]

So I played top tier for the first time in a year

holly

fucking

shit

Is it normal that russian tanks lower plates are now fucking blackholes ?

[stray bane]

I'm dying of a copium overdose rn

I played deep rock all day and my humanity has been restored

[sleek fractal]

Always

[sleek fractal]

Always like that

I dont bother even aiming cause my rounds go through the upper plate like butter

[light wagon]

not really, I remember it was pretty easy to kill it by shooting on the left

Now my OFL F1s just darken the fuel tank 🤡

[sleek fractal]

LUL FRENCH

They nerfed those to hell

Nobody plays that trash anymore

[light wagon]

let me guess, because wheraboos were crying ? 🙂

but that would explain why I see more M2s

[sleek fractal]

Not really

Cause gaijin fucked italy and france due overperforming

Most trash plays germany

[stray bane]

Even gaijin is in on the France memes

[sleek fractal]

I havent seen a leclec in nearly a year

From time to time an Ariete

Why would i play those if i can just lolpen with Sweden,Brits,Israel,Germany,US,Soviets

[light wagon]

they should fuck russia too then 🙂

[sleek fractal]

France 7.3/7 is the best you can get there

[sleek fractal]

They wont due Turms spam

They balance themself

[stray bane]

Cope cage cosmetic when

[light wagon]

by the sheer stupidy of the owners ?

[sleek fractal]

Give france a top tier prem and they might buff em

[sleek fractal]

Yep cause they playing so bad

[light wagon]

I guess it's time to grind the BVM and PLSS

If you can't beat them join them 😂

[sleek fractal]

China.Trust me

Best of US and best of ussr

Then their own Trash which is good in WT due to an Chinese advisor giving them fake OP data

Which got fired but tanks never fixed cause they dont have any data on them

[light wagon]

lmao

The problem is that I would to grind the entire tree

see you in 6 months

[barren coral]

China is busted

ERA in general is retarded

I stopped playing a bit ago due to it

Xtreme larp in ARMA even though the damage models arent as correct which pisses me off but still fun

[sturdy pulsar]

Pblls and event don't help, but normally there's always some tryhards

[arctic granite]

Love me french tanks

Just do

[eternal zenith]

oh yeah, low tier french is hilarious

especially the B1 bis

[sturdy pulsar]

Duck

DUCK

[ruby rain]

I believe France has the lowest penning tank, don't remember which it is tho

[sturdy pulsar]

but yeah B1 and some of those

are kinda unkillable

unless people bring the low tier AT guns

[eternal zenith]

and some literal WW1 trench tanks

[sturdy pulsar]

the 75 M3, the Zis 30

Marder

[eternal zenith]

they have what? 14 crew?!

the 2C i mean

look at this, french know how to party

[ruby rain]

What is your opinion on GBR ground? It's my first country, I'm at rank 5 now

[sturdy pulsar]

Which country?

[ruby rain]

INGERLAND

[eternal zenith]

cute

[ruby rain]

Great Britain

[eternal zenith]

love the indian wheely tanks

also the daimler is really fun

[ruby rain]

Eland

I also had fun with Crusader III

[arctic granite]

Just shoot the turret

[arctic granite]

Absolutely dogshit

Britain is a genuine waste of time

[ruby rain]

Damn

[ruby rain]

As opposed to...?

[arctic granite]

Literally any other nation

[sturdy pulsar]

Shermy has extreme opinions

Challenger struggle, they're not ez mode america/germany/URSS

[ruby rain]

It'll be quite a while b4 I get into the challengers

If I even continue that high due to cas

[arctic granite]

I also have challenger 2s, FGRs and Lynxs. The vehicles are all underperforming and overteired. Genuinely no point in grinding Britain compared to other nations

I mean if you enjoy playing Centurions 1.0 above where they should be, be my guest

[ruby rain]

My 2 main tanks rn are Centurion 10 and Vickers 1

[arctic granite]

Do you enjoy fighting much more capable cold war tanks

[sturdy pulsar]

Shermy about to set off on a rant again

[keen sequoia]

[ruby rain]

Ig. Tbf I didn't know what I was getting myself into - which tiers and nations are better or worse

[arctic granite]

The big three and Sweden are the best nations to play currently

At least Sweden Centurions get darts that make them competitive

Still slow as shit because it's a Centurion

[ruby rain]

I was thinking about playing sweden next. I guess now Im set

[arctic granite]

For the swedish tree you can abuse apds early on, the SPGs are kinda cracked and as soon as you get a Strv 103 you're set until 10.0

The Pvkv II was good before they nerfed it

The Delat Torn is good once you get APHE

I would definitely recommend getting the foreign tanks to supplement some of the gaps in the swedish tree

The Bkan is a gimmick and I would focus on getting it after getting a workhorse grinder

I watched a guy pull 26-0 in the Pvkv m/43 (1946) once on Mozdok so take that as you will

I'm probably going to buy the Sherman III/IV to complete my collection, it's an M4A3 at .3 lower because it doesn't have a .50 and APCR

Sweden is a good choice but has a couple issues in the tier 2-3 range with selection of vehicles. At least it's top tier vehicles are capable unlike Britain 😂

I would also recommend France which has gotten much better recently

[sturdy pulsar]

Swedens has some of the strongest top tier iirc

[ruby rain]

You mean the Finnish ones?

[sturdy pulsar]

Pov you can tell at what update I stopped playing

germany is absolutely flipped

[ruby rain]

At some point the Eland and Ratel 20 got flipped so I got the Eland without researching it

[sturdy pulsar]

5k RP defeat

😔

[ruby rain]

?

[sturdy pulsar]

I lost a game and got 5k rp

Which im p sure would have beeb 7~

[sturdy pulsar]

Pain

[sturdy pulsar]

the Zchlam tager is going to give me an aneurism to spade

I can feel it

[arctic granite]

Yuh

T-34/Panzer IV combo goes hard

[arctic granite]

Back in the day that would have been 1,300 rp lmaooo

[sturdy pulsar]

I've played since CbT

I know what it was pre tanks

[arctic granite]

damn 10 years and you're managing 9-16 in the super sherman?

[sturdy pulsar]

Yeah I used to be like 70% in Thunderskill

Lmao

I took a looon break

[arctic granite]

thunderskill is a dogshit metric

Games from 10 years ago are taken into account as well as arbitrary statistics like winrate

means literally nothing

[sturdy pulsar]

when I was active in thunderskill

ie like 5 years ago

[arctic granite]

I'm like 75% on thunderskill and it makes absolutely no sense

my sim is like 86%

not to mention the website is woefully outdated and some features are behind a paywall

but yeah the M-51 is cracked I dunno how you manage unless you go brawling

[sleek fractal]

dont forget about AI kills even

[sturdy pulsar]

it's called missing and not hitting the gunner

in my time thunderskill had no paywall lol

[soft oracle]

3 gaijllion AI kills

[sleek fractal]

always had

[sleek fractal]

They just didnt advertise it big

[sleek fractal]

SOME

not all features

[arctic granite]

okay?

[sleek fractal]

you are at the same 68% as i am with like 6% less winrate

[arctic granite]

"statistics gathered from publically available info are pay only sorry :)"

[sleek fractal]

i mean hiom posting that.

with the some ^^

[arctic granite]

I'm glad there was such a significant breakdown in communications

Either way, the M51 is ridiculously good

It's a 105 with a sub 9 second reload on a good chassis

LMAO how is this the same BR as the black prince

[sturdy pulsar]

Sub 7

and yeah when you actually know where to shot (I only know on a few tanks) it melts stuff

I landed a 300 meter T-34 shot trhough the side of the turret (he was looking at me) and just

then I can also whiff a 50m shot at a panther

I also realize how bad it will be once I need to do the AMX

the 400mm pen has spoiled me

[cold lichen]

Please don't tell me you are looking at win rates to determine if someone is good or not

[arctic granite]

just took a 122 shot too the face in the m51

no damage

[cold lichen]

I liked the M-51 when I was grinding it

[arctic granite]

it's broken lmao

[cold lichen]

Turning tigers and is-2 into nothing more then a joke is hilarious

[arctic granite]

The M51 is 6.0 but the M4A3E2 76 is 6.3

[cold lichen]

"But da long reload and no armour" -

Vs

[arctic granite]

long reload my ass

[cold lichen]

"I can one shot everything' -

Ik it doesn't have the longest reload

But people are gonna be picking at straws when it comes to it

[sturdy pulsar]

Biggest Skill part of the tank anyhow

[cold lichen]

I can also take into account that it has good mobility but awful gun laying

But awful gun laying doesn't matter when you can hit most tanks center mass and kill 1/2 of the turret crew or hit ammo

[sturdy pulsar]

gun laying only relevant in cqc , where this tank shoulnd't go

[cold lichen]

It can go into cqc if its forced to due to matchmaking

[arctic granite]

this is why I just taskmanager every bad map

this is a 7.0 tank

hands down

[cold lichen]

What Br is the AMX-13 again?

[arctic granite]

6.7

[sturdy pulsar]

I dread it

[cold lichen]

Then yeah

The M-51 can be 7.0

[arctic granite]

AMX-13 could be 5.3

I see zero reason otherwise

[cold lichen]

Logical, it feel right

[arctic granite]

it would make german players screech so it will not happen

[cold lichen]

But in my heart of hearts, it's a mixed bag

It doesn't matter where you put French vehicles, the Germans are gonna screech

[arctic granite]

tru

[cold lichen]

I feel that if it goes to 5.3 it's gonna be bad

[arctic granite]

even the EBR still makes them lose their minds now that it's effectively useless

[cold lichen]

True

[arctic granite]

The AMX-13 has 3 crew, poor armor and poor mobility

[cold lichen]

Idk then but to me it just feels wrong but statistically right

[sturdy pulsar]

Have you seen the pen

tf you're supposed to do with this

[arctic granite]

that's not even it's best shell iirc

[cold lichen]

Yeah, it has a APCBC round with around 200ish pen

And it we are going off pen, the Ikv 103 would be 6.0 but it's not

[sturdy pulsar]

that's the shell the isralei one has

[cold lichen]

I'm fairly sure the French one has it too but I could be wrong

[cold lichen]

But I always return to the gun

[sturdy pulsar]

I can't range find for shit on large maps

Abandoned factory

Spawncamp Factory

[cold lichen]

Hmm

The tanks at 5.3 have better gun handling then the AMX-13 so it would just be stomped, even if it can one shot most tanks it could see

[sturdy pulsar]

Spookston always rages german teams loses the games

but my man

I thin k i've won once vs germany

[arctic granite]

I've lost track of how many times I've killed spookston

[sturdy pulsar]

At least only 20k left to the AMX

and Tier 4 Modules to spade the thing

[arctic granite]

which AMX

[sturdy pulsar]

The first Israeli one

[arctic granite]

I'm sorry to hear that

[sturdy pulsar]

Its taking a while since Im like

2k to 4k rp per loss

[arctic granite]

okay but why grind israel

[sturdy pulsar]

Merkava cool

And I cant bother to relearn Chieftain or M1A1

Germany is Tiger 1

Sweden is 0

[arctic granite]

relearn a chieftain or M1A1?

what is there to relearn if you've played them once

[sturdy pulsar]

Where to shoot at things

WW2 tank ik

Post war? I dunno

[arctic granite]

bro what

NATO: lower hull/turret ring
Warsaw: driver port/lower plate

[sturdy pulsar]

Brother last time I played wr had like

M60 into M1

Kind of progression

[arctic granite]

it's a point and click adventure..

[queen gull]

hi everybody

ewll seems that there is a good talk around here

well

[sturdy pulsar]

Maybe for you mate

[arctic granite]

No seriously

press R

click

win

That's literally the point of a laser range finder

[queen gull]

and TOP BR 🙂 not a fan of it

[arctic granite]

learning weakspots should take 2-3 games at most

[queen gull]

only russian BIAS works at top BR

U shot the ammo multiple times and still kills u xD

[arctic granite]

yeah no russian bias doesn't exist

[sleek fractal]

it existed when Tiger 10,5 had to fight Is4M´s xD

[arctic granite]

also no

because it still has to fight IS-4s and IS-4s are ezpz to kill

[ruby rain]

sometimes I do (relatively) well

[sturdy pulsar]

I think

We should not listen to Shermy at all

[ruby rain]

GBR tanks can barely brawl with SPAAs

[sleek fractal]

that makes no sense

Cause back then Armor worked differently

And Is4 was immune to the Jagdtiger and Tiger 10,5 from the front.

[cold lichen]

Now

The Delet Torn

[sleek fractal]

whatever that means

[sturdy pulsar]

Laffe

Just

I've learned to actually I should just Ignore shermie

cause he lives in his own reality as we know

[sleek fractal]

Shermy has good takes

mostly

[sturdy pulsar]

Yeah sure

[sleek fractal]

Just as i learned not to underestimate his will to be in the right.

[sturdy pulsar]

he just sounds like a schizo tryhard

exactly

[arctic granite]

bro really sits here and says "yeah I don't know how to take on any tank beyond 6.7 but clearly the guy who has 10 times my hours is wrong"

[sturdy pulsar]

I didn't say you were wrong

I said you're fucking nuts

[arctic granite]

Because I said Russian Bias doesn't exist?

[sturdy pulsar]

no, just in general

[arctic granite]

❌
The driver's hatch has always been the way to penetrate the tank

[sleek fractal]

If you were able to hit it back then when guns behaved like in WoT

You know how it was and it was bullshit

Just as volumetric is bs with its non pens

[arctic granite]

I really really like how you managed to go from "it was immune to" "well if you could hit it"

Literally lying to my face then backpedeling

excellent

[sleek fractal]

im not backpedeling

[arctic granite]

So could you penetrate the vehicle frontally or not

because you've managed to contradict yourself

[sleek fractal]

im telling you IT WAS BULLSHIT and that it was BASICLY IMMUNE due circumstances

[arctic granite]

I mean the entire game was bullshit but that doesn't mean russian bias was a thing

[sleek fractal]

Nah it was fine til Tanks came into play

[arctic granite]

🧢

posted from my 5.0 P-51A

[sturdy pulsar]

Laffe let us disengage

[sleek fractal]

i did not want to write anything and just munch my crackers

i actualy consider playing Tarkov rn again xD

But my GF is looking sadly at me in the video call so i guess i will further do nothing

[arctic granite]

w-what

[sleek fractal]

Shes in Vienna and were having a call rn

i told her to go to sleep but she doesnt hang up xD

[sturdy pulsar]

MRE Crackers? 👀

[sleek fractal]

Nah our MRE Crackers are called PanzerKekse

Tank cookies

They are hard as rocks

[sturdy pulsar]

Yeah my friend was addicted to them

[sturdy pulsar]

oh I fucking hate TUC

[sleek fractal]

My grandma loved those

[sturdy pulsar]

They're either sweet or salty

and not the right amount of cracker

Now this things

[sleek fractal]

One for granny

Ok thats a bit dark now

[arctic granite]

we luh RRs in this house

[sleek fractal]

Yeah ive seen those

Need to try

[deep jetty]

These are the best. I’ll get some myself when I go out lol

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/Ax3o27f.png

hello?

[sleek fractal]

dafuq is this setup

[cold lichen]

7.3 to 6.3

[sleek fractal]

no shit.

its not like it was always fucked since they introduced the JU288 to the game

but thats a new kind of fucked

[cold lichen]

Looks like a normal 6.3 game to me

I could be just wrong tho

Ju288 spam did ruin 6.3 tho

[arctic granite]

thank the chinese

[ruby rain]

tank the chinese

[ruby rain]

[arctic granite]

I'm so sorry

[ruby rain]

Tbh it's use seems quite...

Limited

[arctic granite]

It's pretty horrible

[ruby rain]

Like the barn turret tank?

[keen sequoia]

moments before disaster

[ruby rain]

[soft oracle]

TUC but cheeeeeseee

[sleek fractal]

my favourite is sour cream

[sturdy pulsar]

Hit Tiger 3 times in front plate

no ammo deto

ok

:)

Dunno why my Heat never 1 shots most things when I know I'm splashing on ammo

[ruby rain]

whats the pen for your HEAT?

[sturdy pulsar]

400mm

it's the post pen damage either

"die in 1 shot"

or "4 shots all over and crew lives"

[ruby rain]

idk

Gaijin'ed

[arctic granite]

I have a hard time believing that

[sleek fractal]

M-51 is really inconsistent with its HEAT damage

it is how it is

[ruby rain]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-what-it-is-imane-anys-pokimane-let-it-be-whatever-gif-20047891

[sturdy pulsar]

Isn't that all heat rounds from what I've seen?

Unless you go for the really big 155mm's and then it can still be... "odd"

[sleek fractal]

France has some "HEAT" shells that are fine

but HEAT FS overall is also fine.

My USSR Type 62 on 6.7 shreds with its HEAT FS

[ruby rain]

The South African wheely tank HEAT FS is prettygood and kinda early I thinkk

[arctic granite]

Both the AMX and M51 have never given me issues other than the odd one off fuck up that comes with everything in the game

[sturdy pulsar]

My ... 3 wins in 14 games resent that

But w/e

[arctic granite]

One constant

I think it has to do a lot with shot placement

[sturdy pulsar]

wow what great post pen

[arctic granite]

Works on my machine

[sturdy pulsar]

Yeah sure buddy

[sturdy pulsar]

7k rp left on the AMX but my body doesn't want to get 1 shot by some guy at 2km

[deep jetty]

I'm trash at this game 💯

[arctic granite]

being good at it is not a virtue you would want

😔

bro out of the 20 shots I've fired that successfully connected, none of them have bounced so far

I've used this heat shell for years and it's always been pretty good

especially back when the 30 was 7.3 and could face KTHs

another two shots with both instant kills

yeah I don't really see the inconsistency that he's talking about

you slam the shell into the right spots and the enemy dies

[ruby rain]

any shell can bounce if you skill issue hard enough

[sturdy pulsar]

ah yes average WT Match

[ruby rain]

[sturdy pulsar]

Hit Panther 4 fucking times

he lives

ofc

on each turret side, ring, front plate

all pens

result? he doesn't care

[arctic granite]

ngl bro if you're hitting the side of his turret without deleting the breech I have to ask for video evidence

[sturdy pulsar]

the breech did on the turret ring shot lmao

Chinese player on cas

[ruby rain]

American Desert
We've been pushed away from the points
USSR tanks camping angles
try to advance
GBR tanks can't brawl
die

CAS is also a bunch of fucking dogshit
Nothing stomps the gameplay into the ground like cas

Like shouting the nword in a business meeting (in 2023)

[sturdy pulsar]

Yeah

CAS is the "I am a tryhard" button

I wouldn't mind like

if cas was gun strafing or rockets only

but

lmao smart ammo, 10000 lb bombs

etc

[ruby rain]

also the fact that I lose a tank and have to spend SL to repair it due to shit I cant do anything about

omg bruh

[arctic granite]

cas is inherently unfun for anyone except the pilot

[sturdy pulsar]

cucked

[ruby rain]

You get what you pay for...

[sturdy pulsar]

Also Shermy I had to shoot a Tiger 3 times to kill it

Lmao

[arctic granite]

couldn't be me

[sturdy pulsar]

takes 3 shot to disable the fucking breech

I rate Karelia 0 out of 10

Well taking 3-4 shots to kill Panthers and tigers is

strange

specially when hitting center shots or the tiger sides

or even turret sides

the spall just doesn't go anywhere

also the AA you get at 6.0

is 4 50 cals 4.7 BR

I saw a goddamn schalbe

ME.263 with the tank hunter

Sec, once this match is done I'll show you the SPAA

also why tf this thing has no stabilizer at slow speeds 😔

rocks so much

team clawed it out, red was at 75%

[arctic granite]

doesn't the TCM-20 have 20mms

[sturdy pulsar]

it look like 50's to me I haven't looked at it properly after I saw it was an m3

pain

[arctic granite]

that's because it uses the M45 mount...

they're 20mm cannons

[sturdy pulsar]

Painful

[arctic granite]

there's nothing wrong with this AA gun

[sturdy pulsar]

4.3 BR when your tanks are 6.0 but I guess that's regular AA issue

Time to spade this thing and be free

and it's over

[arctic granite]

uh yeah the M51 has bad postpen btw

it bounces bro okay?

[sturdy pulsar]

I've yet to do that once

[arctic granite]

listen dude it is so inconsistant okay

tigers are basically undeadable when using the M51

HEAT is so buggy and never works

[sturdy pulsar]

Brother how the fuck

WHAT

I... guess the AMX-13 can't pen a Su-122?

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/JR4whdO.jpeg

i almost feel bad

[sturdy pulsar]

right click, blocked, I'll be very happy never hearing you again

[arctic granite]

can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen

[keen sequoia]

chill

[arctic granite]

This thing is stupid good, it's just reaching out and dabbing on dudes across the map

As long as you play distance you virtually can't lose

[sleek fractal]

Its kinda funny though when hes clicking Tigers in a downtier but hes not showing how it is in uptiers

[arctic granite]

bro what uptiers

[sleek fractal]

6.7

[arctic granite]

every game is like this

I haven't seen a 7.0 since I crewed this thing

[sleek fractal]

Server,?

[arctic granite]

all

[sturdy pulsar]

Nope

[sleek fractal]

Ugh you play on all Servers

Disgusting

[keen sequoia]

it's not that deep

[sturdy pulsar]

also the AMX-13 feels like a learning experience

[keen sequoia]

play a different vehicle if it bugs you so much

[sturdy pulsar]

now I can't pent anything from the front

And for some reason I'm fighting... worse things than the M-51? including BTR-80's

[sleek fractal]

It sucks til its spaded

[arctic granite]

almost like the AMX-13 is garbage and we went over this yesterday

[sturdy pulsar]

Also, last I recall this is not "Shermy's channel"

[arctic granite]

blocks me
continues to respond to me

rent free

[sturdy pulsar]

wait do you only get to spawn once on the 13?

[sleek fractal]

Yep

Only M-51 has 2 spawns

[keen sequoia]

living rent free in bros head

[sturdy pulsar]

I thought i had 3 on the M-51

[sleek fractal]

2 or 3

[sturdy pulsar]

Maybe I should play AB on this thing

[sleek fractal]

Doesnt matter much xD

[sturdy pulsar]

oh it's 6.3 on AB

weird

[arctic granite]

I had my first heat bounce

against a panther at a 80 degree angle

truly a shell not worth using 😔

[sleek fractal]

You are trying to hard

Drop the topic

Not that it ends like last time