🛩war-thunder

[sleek fractal]

Same with the Leo2A4´s now

[eternal zenith]

interesting.

[sleek fractal]

Pzbtl and 2A4 have 800mm mantlet Armor

[eternal zenith]

Time to play germany again

[sleek fractal]

Finnish 2A4 has 300mm which is correct.

That one isnt bugged but Germanys 2A4´s are

I mean how can they fuck that up ?

Its fucking annoying having to play against them cause now i cant shoot through their Turret anymore.

[eternal zenith]

this?

[sleek fractal]

Is that the MG port ?

Then no.

Still says 382mm protection lol

[eternal zenith]

mg gets calculated in

ig

[sleek fractal]

yeah but that aint the spot cause it wasnt flat frontal

[eternal zenith]

and about the 800mm on the 2A4, doesn't the Leo have like 500mm composite armour on the cheeks?

add in the 250 ish mm of plate and you come close to the 800

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but not IN THE gun mantlet

and definetly not the 2A4 having 800mm

2A5 has

Also then the Finnish one would have it too

300mm is the correct value for the mantlet

[eternal zenith]

does US test drive have the leo as target?

[sleek fractal]

No

[eternal zenith]

USSR?

[sleek fractal]

Nope

I dont even know if anyone has a Leopard in the Test drive

A modern one *

[eternal zenith]

speaking of annoying stuff, what's your opinion on the missile changes?

[sleek fractal]

Here look

That Ammo has 600mm Pen

More than double that armor

That shit is so wrong

How das 300mm equal 900mm on basicly flat armor xD

On the other side im getting up to 1200mm

[sleek fractal]

Thats the Finnish one

[eternal zenith]

lol

I never even considered trying that surface

Interesting. Wonder how they call the german stalinium

[sleek fractal]

Im always shooting Leopard2A4 right of the Gun when its facing you cause theres the Ammo in the back of the Turret

But NOW

They are fucking me up

Just because of this stupid bug

China has a 2A5 as enemy there in the Test drive

[eternal zenith]

I tend to shoot either barrel right or below gun so it makes sense it didn't affect my play style much

[sleek fractal]

Hitting the barrel barely works too with the 2A4 now

[eternal zenith]

funny, the 2A5 isn't affected

[sleek fractal]

YEP

Just both 2A4

Noteven Russian Top Tier Tanks can pen the Mantlet now xD

You can pen the Cheeks with over 600mm NERA

but not the nearly 300mm thick mantlet xD

Not even DM53 can pen it with 650mm pen

[eternal zenith]

Maybe they got their hands on some nato manuals on how rheinmetall upgraded the 2A4 fighting in some conflict IRL

[sleek fractal]

No

They simply fucked it up

[eternal zenith]

yeah. Highly unlikely

and that's highly likely as well

I just want my point and click anti air rockets back tbh

beam riding SAMs were my go to with stingers being as shit as they are

[sleek fractal]

Unplayable for me tbh

cant even see my target below 4km because of the smoke effects

[eternal zenith]

[keen sequoia]

hitleranium

[keen sequoia]

[eternal zenith]

You already crack that 5 million mark?

[keen sequoia]

ive not hit 5 mill SL yet no

too busy buying vehicles lel

[eternal zenith]

I'm contempt to save up until next anniversary

easy double your money

by that time I should have around 100 million if the trend continues

[eternal zenith]

Weird how the mustang pack seems to be best value

[keen sequoia]

thats a big ol wall of spam

[cursive phoenix]

[sleek fractal]

[eternal zenith]

what happen?

[sleek fractal]

Big wall of spam

Some random spamming bullshit

[brave galleon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2QMN0a_TrA&pp=ygUNdHlsZXIxIHNjcmVhbQ%3D%3D

[eternal zenith]

what was your lineup?

[brave galleon]

my tanks or what?

[eternal zenith]

yes

[brave galleon]

T-34-57, KV-85, T-34 (1942)
T-34-57 and KV-85 was with backup

6 kills was on T-34 (1942)
and this against 5.7

[graceful dawn]

Oh nice, Wart Chunder channel

Is it normal to get higher earnings with a tech tree plane than a premium? the BF109K4 is my highest earner by far

[sleek fractal]

No cause you wont unless its a low tier prem

It all is tied to modifiers so you can see roughly what you will earn

[graceful dawn]

I guess it may be down to me being very good with the aircraft

[sleek fractal]

I mean if you cant make SL with the new economy changes

I might be the asshole

Then i have to tell you

You would be pretty Garbage at the game

[keen sequoia]

[graceful dawn]

never said I had problems making lions

2.3mil in the bank currently

[still forum]

what's the premium?

[sleek fractal]

Was just a sidenote 🙂

[graceful dawn]

I have a few, but the highest br one is an A6M5 Ko

[soft oracle]

War Thunder is enjoyable right now ngl

[sleek fractal]

It was always if you were good enough

Jokes aside its pretty good now

[eternal zenith]

With the economy fixed I realized I never had a problem with low rewards. It was always the player base itself

The entitlement of some more regarded individuals raging because they managed to get first place while they score 1500pts or w/e and then calling others trash is mind boggling

[soft oracle]

I surely liked getting 5k rp for carrying a match

[eternal zenith]

Which is why I don't understand the toxicity of some players. They go apeshit cause they loose one match as if they got to hand pick their team, then again you barely see these guys in squads. A mystery that nobody wants to play with people like that

[keen sequoia]

now to spend it all

yippee

[eternal zenith]

anyone noticed the game having some sort of memory leak after the last updates? I tried playing today but it seems unplayable, either EAC or the game itself but I get maxed out vram and gpu usage in hangar

[sleek fractal]

Be suprised but you wont

Its not the first time

It wont be the last time

Last time it took them over 2 years to fix

[eternal zenith]

sweet. then I'm not paranoid

for a moment I thought I infected myself with a crypto miner

... they're not running a miner in the background, are they

[sleek fractal]

Not as far as i know

[eternal zenith]

Messerspaghetti

Spaghettischmitt

[soft oracle]

Memory leak is common in War Thunder

They've adressed it couple of times

Seen people complaining

[barren coral]

theres a full on list

for like all CC decals

n stuff like that'

but its in a excel form

[sleek fractal]

its pinned in this channel

[barren coral]

i am retarded

[sleek fractal]

[grave spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/285880764493725696/1126441241815568394/warthunder_gepard.mov

[trail briar]

omfg

surprised it doesn't have a weird Z somehow

[solar bolt]

omfg

I want to have Bf109 - Z, without any reference guys

Cos its very rare plane

[sleek fractal]

First HAHA MUTED

Second they sold it already this year

i bought it

[sleek fractal]

The economy is ultra dumb

[soft oracle]

22k rp is the cap

[sleek fractal]

Activity time 27 seconds

I needed 27 seconds to shoot down 5 planes

[solar bolt]

Wtf why i muted guys

[solar bolt]

I really WANT TO EVENT PREMIUM BF109, can i give u screen later, ok?

https://wiki.warthunder.ru/Bf_109_Z-1

Reference to EVENT PLANE is a crime? I saw this plane in SB setups

[sleek fractal]

As i wrote they already sold it this year

You gotta wait til next year

[grave spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/734170676235337829/1055056055857586247/3e5014b55f5a04c86b5824d3f49af9ba.mov

[keen sequoia]

[cursive phoenix]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/526494719681757226/1072696936999702568/image.png

[arctic granite]

any other warthundertards notice an excessive amount of blatant wallhackers today?

ive got 8 definite ones and a slew of maybes

[eternal zenith]

is it not just you being in a loud as fuck tank with your antenna sticking up behind cover?

Shooting folks with APDSFS through walls and containers is meta now

[arctic granite]

no, i mean getting shot by a tiger 2 h crossmap through an entire forest

[eternal zenith]

can be done if you got marked tbh

I definitely shot through foliage and blind luck

[arctic granite]

then having same said tiger 2 repeat it 4 times

map was normandy, city half, with myself going way around under the berm on the south side. tiger was around the city

start of match, no enemy light tanks anywhere in sight

i checked the replay just for laughs

[eternal zenith]

I'd pretty cynical on these claims, it's been ages since I last thought I'd seen a blatant hacker. Most of these are just turbo autistic WT players who spend 20h a day grinding

[arctic granite]

I am too

Playing since 2015

Yet today specifcally on EU servers ive seen a shitload of goobers tracking people through entire forests, with the typical aimhack tracking

[eternal zenith]

report and blacklist?

[arctic granite]

US servers I havent seen anything

I was just wondering if anyone experienced same thing today

[eternal zenith]

I'm pretty defensive here since shooting folks through foliage is my go to strategy. I notice fumes or see someone dropping smoke, I shoot near the exaust fumes or in the center of the smoke cloud and ruin their fun

[arctic granite]

me too

[eternal zenith]

Ever since container pen is fixed it's the most hilarious on the shipping yard map, leo or abrams taking cover behind container? Into the side it goes

[arctic granite]

hate that map with a burning passion

every map made after 2017 sucks, this is objective fact

[eternal zenith]

I really like the new packman titty map

good balance it seems

[eternal zenith]

what's your least hated map (if you'd go as far as have a fav then that)

[arctic granite]

karelia, ash river, japan are my fav 3

problem is most of the maps are relatively "good", with very simple to fix horrendous issues

ie: south spawn on berlin gets no cover and can be sniped almost from north spawn, A side spawn on spaceport can be shot into from 3 quarters of the way across the map, etc etc

basically gaijin does not design maps with ample cover to and from spawns, resulting in spawns that can be camped from a kilo away

gaijins also slowly turning into wargaming, and just adding a shitload of busted ass tanks

I just miss being able to pen tigers and panthers with the M4 76

'ate volumetric
'ate atgms
'ate anything past 7.7
'ate autocannons with apds ammo
'ate btr80s
'ate marders
'ate cas
simple as.

[eternal zenith]

the 76 pretty much slaps everything at it's BR, no?

[arctic granite]

6 years ago sure

[eternal zenith]

btr80 are lunchboxes. Last match I used the 7.92 to end it

[arctic granite]

volumetric basically nerfed the 76 into being unable to pen shit

[eternal zenith]

explain what you mean by volumetric

[arctic granite]

the volumetric shells and armour and shit

[eternal zenith]

what's a volumetric shell

[arctic granite]

big brain smart person calculation of shell

you cannot pen a panther mantlet anymore with american 76 (reliably)

[eternal zenith]

It's become such a meme word (while it's true to some degree definitely) that I'm never sure I'm thinking of the same thing someone mentioning volumetric shells means

[arctic granite]

yeah it was added in a big update ages ago

i dont remember i took a break from warthunder before modern tanks got added and didnt come back until uh.... 2021 or 2022?

it was really weird having stabilizers on shermans and not being able to pen panthers or tigers anymore frontally

[eternal zenith]

You sure you mean the 76 not the 75?

cause the M1 is definitely penning Tigers frontally still

[arctic granite]

if theres any amount of angle or at a mid distance it wont

only goes through without any sort of angle at close range

same with the panther mantlet

[eternal zenith]

Ok yeah.

[arctic granite]

back in the good ole days you could pen a tiger front plate with 5-10 degrees of angle with the 76

now its gotta be perfectly flat

ah yeah i stopped playing after japanese tanks got added, so 2017. then came back around 2021-2022

It was a little strange

[eternal zenith]

I'm torn here cause I think it should def. still pen at some point, at least after you hit the second shot, but don't believe you should get away with 1000m kills to the front plate at angle

Armour condition should be more of a thing

[arctic granite]

In my opinion if the T-34-85 can pen the tiger 1 front from almost a 30 degree angle, the 76 should be able to do so

T34-85 gets 135mm of pen and the burger 76 gets 149, but the larger diameter of the russian shells+aphebc+russian bias means they perform ridiculously good against angles

I mean come on gaijin

😭

Just felt likethings were more fair in the old days, i guess

[eternal zenith]

Playing the T34 is enough punishment to allow them this bias. I really really hate The T34 series

[arctic granite]

Wym

I love the T34

One of the best tanks in game, I regularly uptier it to 7.0 with my T44-100 and do well

[eternal zenith]

I can't stand it. Idk if it's the weird suspension, engine sounds or the gun but it's easily one of my most hated tanks

[arctic granite]

Hmm

In some ways I prefer it to the T44

A little more mobile

[eternal zenith]

that's true, then again I hate the T44-100 with a passion as well

[arctic granite]

i think the t44-100 is kinna mid

good gun but shit everything else

[eternal zenith]

but that's more of a issue with the last Tank duel thing

[arctic granite]

now the t-34-100.....

[eternal zenith]

... there's a t-34-100?!

ayo

[arctic granite]

yeah its the T-54's gun at 6.3

Its a real sleeper (mostly because the T-34-85 is just better)

[eternal zenith]

what about the T34-57?

[arctic granite]

i love that little bastard

[eternal zenith]

Speaking of little bastards, one thing they should add is to be able to airdrop a ASU-57 in with a Pe-8

[arctic granite]

now t hat would be cool

i remember killing a plane with my ASU-57 right after it got added

killed it witrh APCR

had to angle ASU-57 on a hill

[eternal zenith]

[eternal zenith]

I think I really just saw a kind of bot

Player using Chinese ZLT, every shot I took the turret twitched exactly once I shot to move the ammo rack and gunner out of the way. Is that a thing or me just being schizo?

I took 3 shots at them, every single time some weird ass twitchy movement and just out of the way enough for me to miss, might be network issue but this seems to continue with the teammates after my death

[eternal zenith]

ok, this was just a skill issue on my part. time to stop playing man I suck

[sleek fractal]

[arctic granite]

I do this all the time

At longer ranges you can see the muzzle flash and move the turret befpre the shell connects

Most of the bots chill in ground ab and spin in circles around spawn

[soft oracle]

Another economy update

[eternal zenith]

what changed? can you share the log?

[soft oracle]

It's the summer update from roadmap

dropping in few hours probably

[arctic granite]

I really hope the update fixes what broke my game.last update

Warthunder keeps crashing and freezing my filesystem

[sleek fractal]

Operstion Summer is also coming soon

[soft oracle]

Isn't that like in one month?

[soft oracle]

Okay Atomic Heart event coming for next 3 weeks

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8352-event-combat-robots-of-atomic-heart-come-to-war-thunder-en

[half falcon]

going on until the 31st

[trail briar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CYRTYkYKyk

[eternal zenith]

bruh, sex robot thunder

[soft oracle]

No gambling this event
Leaves

[eternal zenith]

I was hoping for a 3d sexy metal lady for my wiesel

[civic blade]

erotic

[trail briar]

Metal lady booba mousepad

[solar bolt]

need 8 hours

[graceful dawn]

You can always put it on loop, dungeon master

I will need to compress some more clips I made with shadowplay when i get back from my hols

[solar bolt]

bruh pale

why i so bored to playing in wt

[trail briar]

omfg

[short mantle]

War Thunder is fun

RU 251 rocks

[keen sequoia]

kys

stupid ass meme template

[keen sequoia]

[toxic basin]

Nuke in an M48A2GA2, with a lil help of turm III ( how the fuck is this possible what're these players )

[cursive phoenix]

THEY PUT BOOBS

ON THEIR SNAILS

[eternal zenith]

LMAO

wtf

snail titties

[arctic granite]

atomic heart

[eternal zenith]

@keen sequoia did you buy the current BP?

[keen sequoia]

I did not

im up to like lvl 49 on it

it'd prolly be good to buy it

then again it ends soon

[eternal zenith]

I'm at 97 and seriously consider it. But then again I prolly should've gotten the 50% vehicle packs for those GE

[keen sequoia]

I bought the Turm 3

for $37 AUD or some shit

it is so fucking fun to play as you mostly come up against lightly armored vehicles, which the 30mm just shreds

and then the main 105 is good for, well, fucking up med/heavies

Its literally just a better leopard

and that 5 second reload for the 105

[eternal zenith]

If I get the BP this month I'd get the next one as well

[eternal zenith]

Problem is that ammo rack imo

[keen sequoia]

Is fine

ammo rack, no problem

youre fucked anyway if you get shot

[eternal zenith]

rember playing it constantly blowing up, even with only 12 shells loaded

[keen sequoia]

very low amounts of armor anywhere

[eternal zenith]

that depression too

[keen sequoia]

its a very interesting play style

but when you learn it

and tbf

anniversary

ill prolly buy the T-72 Turms

and the MIG-23ML

[eternal zenith]

what if, instead of falling for the T72 meme, you'd go with the Type 16

Been eyeing that bad boy since it was released

then again, I'm a sucker for wheely tanks

[keen sequoia]

the fuck is the type 16

Also wdym the t72 meme

[eternal zenith]

T72 just been the meta since forever cause the 3BM42 is probably the best shell in 10.0

[keen sequoia]

even better reason for me to get it

[keen sequoia]

[eternal zenith]

Got to test drive it a few matches, very nice for the BR

[keen sequoia]

[eternal zenith]

got a very cool kill jumping over a trench, shooting mid air right into the top of the turret

[keen sequoia]

Ayo

[eternal zenith]

It's a very nice plane. I enjoyed it a lot so far

[keen sequoia]

[eternal zenith]

One thing I'm not really sure of is the synced bomb drop. If I use the heaviest bombs it drops both of them at the same time meaning you effectively one get to do a single bomb run, even though in the test drive it drops each one individually

[keen sequoia]

[keen sequoia]

[keen sequoia]

[sleek fractal]

real life ME262

one of the last 2

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/reopening-of-the-suggestion-area-changes-from-the-old-forum/

also this

[fervent karma]

Why gaijin changed their forum to crappier version in the first place? Imo new forums for crossout and WT looks horrendous

[short mantle]

🤓

[keen sequoia]

[short mantle]

Turm 🤓

RU 251 > Turm

[keen sequoia]

ok

still,

[short mantle]

Syrian T-72 is based

I too wanna sing for Bashar

[keen sequoia]

ok i gotta agree with you on that one

[eternal zenith]

it is not based, sadly

[short mantle]

Why so

@eternal zenith btw i too enjoy Metro! Slava Reichu!

[eternal zenith]

Did you know a 88mm can one shot the TURMS?

From the front

Gotta love the flakbus

[short mantle]

Hehe

88 was always based

[keen sequoia]

https://youtu.be/RbPowLejNeQ

Just made this bc why not

[eternal zenith]

why simpsonwave in the title?

nice edit too

[keen sequoia]

(It's the song I used)

i tend to just put songs in the title

[eternal zenith]

oh yeah that checks out

[keen sequoia]

[arctic granite]

Im something of a nuke hater myself

have nuke for a solid 5 minutes
refuse to drop it
enemy team mad
friendly team mad
j out and spawn bomber right before match ends

[south sand]

Kek :3

[keen sequoia]

Well i made it into a Spookston video xD

[neon grove]

yikes those first two tanks make my wallet hurt

[south sand]

Thankfully I got them well before the prices were crazy... the market place is crazy stupid now....

[grave spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/873616871700693053/1131381500571553802/youtube-y3pfxoQFfoU.mp4

[eternal zenith]

GPWS would be cute in WT

[sleek fractal]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8368-development-battle-pass-vehicles-b7a2-homare-23-ryusei-en

[eternal zenith]

SPz 12-3 gonna be interesting

Autocannon and recoilless rifle sounds very funny

speaking of recoilless rifle, has there ever been a discussion to add a slow firing spotting rifle to tanks like the R3 T106?

[fervent karma]

Lol what? Based

Hell yeah got it

[eternal zenith]

Is that a T-34 with cope cages installed

[fervent karma]

Yeah but the main thing going for is "Ancient rus" title

But t-34-85e is direct upgrade to t-34-85, i'm not big fan of 5.7 BR because they moved up is-2 to 6.0 ruining lineup

[eternal zenith]

sounds cool, how much was it?

[fervent karma]

17 GJN I think

[eternal zenith]

not bad

[fervent karma]

5.7 Really needs more 122mm's, I recommend getting kv-122, arguably better version of is-2 on 0.7 lower BR
Or don't bother with that and go for 6.7 which have 2 OP tank destroyers and other good vehicles backing them up

[eternal zenith]

op TD at 6.7?

like what

[fervent karma]

Su-122-54 and Obj 268

[solar bolt]

hello guys, is there exist sense for buying the latest battle pass now?

only for german ship (just i want it)

[solar bolt]

for what lol

[eternal zenith]

I'd say no.
I'm at level 115 and seriously consider getting the BP still but I'm not sure I can make it to 125 in time

better use it for next BP and keep at it

[keen sequoia]

they recently took it off from the store

[keen sequoia]

will you grind out the next 4 days non stop

[eternal zenith]

probably not, I'll try to finish all the special tasks sure but they get harder and harder each time. Currently struggling with the 120 crit one and it just takes too much time

[fervent karma]

https://store.gaijin.net/story.php?title=Feat_Ancestors-Pack That pack

[keen sequoia]

air RB has alot of good special tasks, pity you don't have high tier planes

my last 3(?) have been pretty easy

kill 8 strike aircraft with a fighter

get 12 crits

shit like that

and the one im doing rn

win 3 battles getting over 2000 battle score each match

ez as fuck

[eternal zenith]

I do now but I'm more efficient on ground

[keen sequoia]

ah

what high tier planes ya got?

[eternal zenith]

yeah but that stacks/increases. First of the day maybe 3 x 2000 points but next one will be what? 5x?

[keen sequoia]

i haven't gotten the 3x 2000 before

it might stack, not sure tho

[eternal zenith]

Squad SU-22

[keen sequoia]

also we should totally squad up if you have a 10.3 jet for arb

[keen sequoia]

thats 10.7 ey

[eternal zenith]

yeah... shame I gotta play against other 10.7 planes

[keen sequoia]

[eternal zenith]

I gotta face the fact that if I had to dogfight a Mig-3 in this thing without missiles I'd probably loose

[keen sequoia]

i can help you get better at dogfighting if you wish

[sleek fractal]

With ancient rus they mean that: link incoming it didnt vopy right

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiewer_Rus

Because dipshits buying it cause they think they mean Russia

[eternal zenith]

might just take you up on that offer soon

[keen sequoia]

Bet, just send me a DM whenever you wish and i'll set up a custom

It begins.

Lmfao

I've already figured out how to consistently do cobras in the F-14

via test flight

@eternal zenith Cobra time

[keen sequoia]

[keen sequoia]

1.1k hours

yet i only just got this

[half crown]

I got like 4K and today i got "100 kills in german tanks"

Despite owning leo 2A6

[keen sequoia]

Steam be fucking wilding

[eternal zenith]

same

they added it recently

[keen sequoia]

[little quarry]

same with swedish tanks

but I got like 700 kills only with ikv 91, except other tanks

[little quarry]

Вот она, сила древнеславянская

[little quarry]

holy f.. are you an Elon Musk? How much money did u got for this shi

[sleek fractal]

I dont get why you pull the Is7 into 9.7

Russia has a solid 8.3 and 8.7 lineup

Well ok if you have the vehicles

I prefer my Is7 staying on 8.3

[soft oracle]

brt

[south sand]

These all had 11 mins left

[south sand]

Gratz !!

[soft oracle]

I should kms

[cobalt sluice]

Le bum

[solar bolt]

nice, i will buy this cos i still havent any prem in USSR' ground

[solar bolt]

ok

[eternal zenith]

Similar happened to me, lost like 5 400%+ boosters today

fridge from robot gaem?

[south sand]

https://tenor.com/view/ummmmmm-excuse-me-what-gif-19629790

[solar bolt]

ok, shnellbot is a piece of crap. But J26 cool Xd

[eternal zenith]

I found the secret to grinding. Put my nephew who played WoT on my account and the little bugger has completed the fucking coastal vessel challenge for me

@keen sequoia ⬆️

[keen sequoia]

[eternal zenith]

he even raised my KD

[keen sequoia]

lmfao

also

good news on my part

[eternal zenith]

do tell

[keen sequoia]

even with my right wing constantly getting torn off via fox-1

i am still managing to fully upgrade the f-4J

and

half way done

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cruise-top-gun-i-feel-the-need-for-speed-high-five-5gimme-gif-25891859

[eternal zenith]

[keen sequoia]

and then i'll do it all over again when i buy the MIG-23Ml at the anniversary sale

[eternal zenith]

I'll give my nephew my old rig and a 144hz monitor. Gonna be the cool uncle and get my US tree grinded... good plan?

can't ruin his life

[keen sequoia]

lmfao

[keen sequoia]

@stray bane Originally bought 180 days of premium time for only $30 AUD, and I uh...

may have spent a little bit more

[stray bane]

You got snailed

All worth it for the Brrrrt

[keen sequoia]

and i have indeed unlocked the brrt.

and the

muh napalm

AND

Almost the top gun f-14 fr fr

[stray bane]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cruise-meme-bobby-schmurda-gif-12795278

[sleek fractal]

Download Wallpaper: * 1920x1080

• 2560x1440
• 3840x2160

For many types of vehicles that aren't equipped with super sturdy armour, attacks from the flank and ambushes are one of the main ways to achieve victory. The SPz 12-3 LGS, the main prize of the new War Thunder Battle Pass season, is one of such vehicles — and that's why this season is called “Armour Breaking Ambusher”!

Note: from season 12 onwards, Battle tasks and some battle pass challenges can be completed in Air or Ground SB!

To receive Battle Pass rewards, you need to regularly log into the game and complete tasks and challenges. Each level of Battle Pass will earn you a prize, be it a player icon, a loading screen, a title, decals, decorations, or new premium vehicles!

July 26th — October 25th

BATTLE PASS ...

Link zum Post:
https://warthunder.com/en/news/8370/current/

[keen sequoia]

fr

[sleek fractal]

Dear players!

At 05:00 GMT on the 25th of July, game servers will not be available as we will be implementing planned infrastructure updates. Estimated down time ~2 hours.

Thank you for your understanding!

Link zum Post:
https://warthunder.com/en/news/8372/current/

[soft oracle]

Observe

What does that mean

GAMMA to War Thunder when?

[solar bolt]

Bruh

Top tier gameplay

More worse, than anything else

[keen sequoia]

Its worse then anything else if you have a skill issue

[eternal zenith]

what do you think about events not being prolonged due to outage?

[sleek fractal]

Events are useless anyway

They are for fun

The events with rewards usualy get prolonged

[solar bolt]

no

[keen sequoia]

yes

[solar bolt]

in low between 4.7 - 7.3, maybe 8.3 all players in others situatiom are avalaible to playing for fun

especially in low-top tier 9.7 - 8.7

[keen sequoia]

and uh

my F-5C which you replied to

isn't even top tier

its 2 tiers below top tier

which is high tier

[solar bolt]

i very fucking love this reaction, in russian community we have same plroblem

[keen sequoia]

ok

[solar bolt]

"if u playing worse than MINIMAL 75% thunderskill in all regimes, u maggot and noob" l, yeah

[keen sequoia]

ok

[solar bolt]

Cos u MUST 3/1 kd and 75-80% winrate lmao

especially in TOP TIER

[solar bolt]

bro nah ironic

[keen sequoia]

ok

cool story bro

but i didn'task

[solar bolt]

iam playing in this game since 0.2. 2013, and my "top" without stupid chinabot' style grind and donate - 8.3 lol

tnhx gayjin for "fair" play

nah anyway

[keen sequoia]

ok

[solar bolt]

"air - ground click - JDAM to spawn - 3-4-5 frags - field and repeat"
Very skill gameplay ye

[keen sequoia]

ok

where's this going exactly

[solar bolt]

In sim and rb in low

ok, i understood u, sorry for my noob stories

[keen sequoia]

ok

[solar bolt]

fuck

stop trolling me

my ass is burning

[keen sequoia]

the fuck are you on about

[solar bolt]

No

[keen sequoia]

??

[solar bolt]

no more bullshit

[keen sequoia]

what the fuck are you on about

[grave spindle]

This is what happens with war thunder. It frays the nerves. Happens to everyone.

[keen sequoia]

[eternal zenith]

Winrate doesn't matter anyways unless you only play squadron

Have you seen the wonderful effects of smoke yet?

this is a great addition, still no brownie points since it should've been part of the game 5 years ago

I recall arguing on the forum about why this should definitely be added, good times

[cold lichen]

Well, back then. The economy wasn't being pressured 5 years ago and most players didn't care enough to look at their after report

Cause honestly, most war thunder players are just trying to have fun where fun is very limited.

I don't even grind top tier vehicles to just play top tier anymore

I only do it to have more fun in custom battles

(Which they are, ever have a Me-163 chase you down at Mach 2 in a F-14A?)

[keen sequoia]

lmfao

im mostly grinding top tier USA so I can do pretty much that, fuck around in customs and film edits with the f-14 n shit y'know

[fervent karma]

Very nice feature actually

[sleek fractal]

Ok but can you do the math?

How those numbers come together

You cant cause they never made public what you precisely get for doing anything

Yeah its nice that its more detailed now but it beats the purpose if you still cant calculate it yourself correctly

[fervent karma]

Basically WT economy is huge timewall

Most of RP you get comes out of playtime and activity wich calculates based on your score and time

[eternal zenith]

Are the devs secretly ... based?

[keen sequoia]

[eternal zenith]

that's some big brain thinking. They understood how well received No Mans Sky's reaction to the community has been and follow that?

First act like complete morons and alienate the fanbase, then do a complete 180 and make the game good

@keen sequoia just had some fun playing ground RB with the high caliber planes as CAS. 37mm is a wonderful caliber for turning off the engine of heavy tanks

[keen sequoia]

the german 75 2.3 HS plane

goes hard even in 6.7

Muh frontal armor! Who gives a shit, I'll pen your roof like a poptart going thru the side of a bradley

also @eternal zenith Tried out that SU-22 yet?

[eternal zenith]

no, still grinding BP a bit, might get enough warbonds to get another premium tank

[keen sequoia]

i see

[sleek fractal]

Which is obvious

The question was how much you actualy get

Im playing since 10 years

Nobody ever could make an exact calculation cause Gaijin doesnt want that

All we,a community of around 1200 people,could pinpoint that capturing and defending caps gets you the most RP/SL and thats it.No actual numbers cause the difference for each Vehicle is hughe,even if they have the same modifiers

Gaijin aint dumb,they will never give us the formula just like Mr.Crabs

[fervent karma]

Try pulkzerstorer

[eternal zenith]

Finally a working spotting rifle on a recoilless rifle

Very nice

[keen sequoia]

nice

[keen sequoia]

@eternal zenith Finally

yes i stayed up till 2am grinding it

and now i must play a match with danger zone

got that jolly rogers shit

[eternal zenith]

what happens to players with names like this?
Does Gaijin just not give a fuck

[grave spindle]

I don't see a problem with that name. What's wrong with it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJjCMuHrN-Q

[full moat]

ive started getting war thunder ads, fuck you

let me listen to my spec ops the line analysis

[keen sequoia]

[solar bolt]

ok, u right, but i havent friends in game

[keen sequoia]

@eternal zenith

Inverted cobra'd my mate

[sleek fractal]

old ass screenshot

[keen sequoia]

and another cobra

Or rather more of a Kvochur bell manuever, but still

[keen sequoia]

Straight up top gunned this shit again @eternal zenith

[eternal zenith]

Is that staged or real battle

[keen sequoia]

Me flying overhead was staged lmfao

[eternal zenith]

https://tenor.com/Yn7K.gif

[keen sequoia]

lel

heres one without my custom camo

Also @eternal zenith, one quick question

For a thumbnail

[keen sequoia]

This picture

OR

this picture

OR

this picture

@frigid carbon ik you play war thunder so i'd like your opinion too

nvm i just used the 2nd one

https://youtu.be/1BhGTESoDeM

[frigid carbon]

2nd one is nice

very cinematic and shit

[eternal zenith]

I want them to know

the mystery machine is out to get you

[grizzled falcon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/876513870800355328/1134753062959972402/image.png

when this in war thunde?

[sleek fractal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/719905031356284999/863391416990695444/caption.gif

[sleek fractal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn5KpUPjcuE&ab_channel=Laffetie

Why the fuck did i get the TK for this

[eternal zenith]

did your missile detonate because of the impact?

maybe a drop tank that exploded acting as armament, cause I think these act the same as bombs in terms of damage

[sleek fractal]

He rammed me

I dont know

[grave spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785823288277467137/1130978432122105976/2491d082b94c132fe28a7a5cb8215e7e9a053c11c639cbc001a1961b41ee004c_1.mp4

[keen sequoia]

kys

[eternal zenith]

fun

[soft oracle]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8381/current/

[eternal zenith]

they acknowledged bots, game healing

and they banned a whopping 215 accounts, much wow

only 29,785 to go if the 30k number holds true

[sleek fractal]

They ban monthly around 300 accounts

Wtf did they do to the fucking forum

https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/576444-fair-play/

THERE it is

to bad they didnt keep the old ones

[eternal zenith]

yeah but how many of those are perma?

[sleek fractal]

All

You can check the names and see the BANNED stamp on their profile

https://warthunder.com/de/community/userinfo/?nick=Electronic-Nlgga

see

They actualy shame those assholes.

[eternal zenith]

I wana see a wall of shame like in runescape

if it's 300 per month then that should be tens of thousands of players by now

[sleek fractal]

They did it years ago,but those idiots deleted it

then they stopped around 2018

and starte it again early this year

Warthunder is already over 10 years old

i dont know why they deleted the old ones,probably cause it was name clutter of full 5 years

[eternal zenith]

I don't remember ever seeing that list

then again, I never cared for the community

[sleek fractal]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/6568-countermeasures-against-forbidden-modifications-january-en

for example 2020

click on the link and it says the forum topic doesnt exist anymore

they deleted those old ones

[eternal zenith]

Also I love them talking about their highly sophisticated algorithm. I know a guy who made a living selling EAC and battleye cheats for a living and his account is still active

[sleek fractal]

same but mine didnt share anything

Thats why the shit aint getting detected

earning prices that way is better than selling them.

[eternal zenith]

I find it funny though, just checked the KD and it's worse than mine

If you go through the banned list a lot of them have pretty shit stats

makes you wonder, do only shitty players cheat? Do the good ones just not get detected?

[sleek fractal]

the really good ones get not detected

the garbage ones get banned cause they make new accounts and buy premium

the middle ground is hit or miss

You cant get a good hack for WT

i mean can you imagine what would be a good hack ?

Wallhacks wont do anything,aimbots are not reliable

That 3rd party tool from a dev just tells you how far you gotta aim ,faster than a rangefinder and more accurate

[soft oracle]

Once saw dude pope smoke in front of him on the middle od the hill and kept killing everyone with great accuracy

Dude had like 5kd ration on good amount od his top tier vehicles

[eternal zenith]

from what I saw most just abuse the systems in place to enable things like penetration indicator in sim / realistic as well as enabling thermal vision. But especially thermals are visible during replay I heard. So if you enable infrared in your sherman it'll be pretty quickly detected. I've been mocked on the forums when I suggested that hit indicators are an issue if enabled for rb/sim but as it turns out it's the most commonly used cheat

[arctic granite]

Hey this game sucks

[eternal zenith]

ayo

welcome back

[arctic granite]

Yoooo

Thanks homie

[eternal zenith]

how you doing

[arctic granite]

Excellent

What about you

[eternal zenith]

I've been theorizing that you were hunted down by a darkweb assassin because of your gaming shenanigans

[arctic granite]

No I was just enduring hell for a while

[sleek fractal]

you can switch some options in the nvidia panel to completely disable smoke.

[arctic granite]

So give me the scoop on this more rp for better performance change

[eternal zenith]

if you combine this with the smokewall feature you'll be completely invisible

for everyone also abusing this glitch

[soft oracle]

No nvidia 😦

[barren coral]

man FUCK aim 9bs

they are SO ASS

[keen sequoia]

Gaijoob gave us more RP gain

is good

is tldr

Ground RB is actually grindable now

And ARB is just better and better

[barren coral]

doesnt change shitty teammates

i swear these fucking assholes

they fucking kill steal rigth when im about to get the kill

[keen sequoia]

True

What plane you in

[barren coral]

suber sabre

the fucking asshole who stole the kill was in the star fighter

if you need to kill steal in a star fighter you need to uninstall cause that shit is GODLY

[keen sequoia]

Star fighter is the F-104s right?

They're alright

Cant dogfight for shit, good boom n zoomer though

However that doesnt justify them being at 11.0 in other nations, at all

[barren coral]

thats true

at 9.3 though its godly

[keen sequoia]

Cant argue with that

[arctic granite]

Wow there's actually a reason to be good

[keen sequoia]

Skill issue

[stoic hazel]

[soft oracle]

Bro didn't deflect under tank back boomerang apfsds loool no skill at all deinstall the game

[fervent karma]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTVic0KVzOx3L6Qva9i3sQNCB-fNVd-m8QkJ_NghaiyqHDeFaqbUPh4atNCpPJjZm3LcW3hC25XUMu_/pubhtml

They moving leopard to 8.0

I love that BR changes, it makes 6.7 sweetspot

[arctic granite]

Wow this is both the best and worst set of changes I've ever seen

STB to 8.3 lmaoooooo

What a joke

[arctic granite]

Comedy how most Soviet vehicles are getting pushed up but are getting reload buffs in the process

[fervent karma]

T-54s are shit

[arctic granite]

They're goated

Now they have better reloads which only make them more potent

Goodbye L7 advantage

You used to be able to rely on the 8.7s to beat out the D-10 and U-5TS but it seems you'll have to actually try and develop a decent crew

[keen sequoia]

7.7 i thought

[barren coral]

Tfw if its 7.7 a jumbo can still fight one

[sleek fractal]

And get a HEAT round

One of them at least

[keen sequoia]

nope

Highest Jumbo is 6.3 iirc

[barren coral]

I thought it got moved to 6.7?

[keen sequoia]

Oh yeah

Wait...

Gaijin why

why move the jumbo to 6.7

So the tiger 2 is what, 7.0 now?

cringe

[arctic granite]

Tiger 2 could be 7.3 tbqh

[austere sandal]

not really it would face way too much post ww2 ammunition zipping right thru

[keen sequoia]

nuh uh

[arctic granite]

With all the 7.7s going up and the 5.7-6.3 bracket being pushed up for other nations there would be nothing different

It's always been a vehicle that could punch well above it's weight and one of the Tiger 2s was 7.0 for years with no issues

Yooo they're not putting the T29 at 7.3 let's gooo

When compared to other contemporary heavy tanks the Tiger 2 is pretty under tiered (See T32, Carnarvon, IS-3)

Vehicles like the T-44 and Jumbo 76 are by no means on par with the Tiger 2

[sleek fractal]

T-44 is

Just use APCR

It aint as shit as it was

Also the recent changes decompress 8.3 and 8.7 to have less high tier encounters which is also fine

Its small steps

Better than nothing

Oh and saying the Jumbo isnt on par with Tiger 2.... if it would perform like shit,it already would have been getting a lower BR already

I do agree though its not on par but it performs good enough

Organise a mass suicide of Jumbos on reddit and they deffo give it a lower br

Just like shit italian sabre getting an up br when the best WT air players decided to show everyone how dumb gaijin is.It worked

[arctic granite]

Same argument can be used for the Tiger II, just use APCR lol

APCR is a shit round and shouldn't be used unless it's an emergency circumstance.

[arctic granite]

This is such a non statement purely because player statistics aren't the only thing that dictate a vehicle's BR, while it does encompass most of the decision, there are a multitude of factors that go into it. For example a large amount of premium or event vehicles are heavily under tiered. I'm averaging 10:1 in my T18E2 and it's BR hasn't changed in 5 years.

There are always going to be people who can make vehicles work in just about any BR, cherry picking these examples does nothing but mask the issue at hand. Sure I could double ace with that Jumbo or T-44 at 6.7 but that doesn't mean that the vehicle belongs there.

[sleek fractal]

T18E2 is a shit example cause not many have it or play it and its also a cherry pick

Also its such a low br that Gaijin doesnt care

[sleek fractal]

I did agree that it isnt on par,yet People perform in it. Whats so wrong to understand? Its not my fault that all the Garbage players,play Germany

The German uptiers like Leo on 8.0 were long overdue

So you want a T-44 engage what? Pz4? Cause thats what you get when you put it on 6.0 or 5.7 which isnt fair either

6.7 is the most balanced BR if it couldnt encounter 7.7 as much as it does

[arctic granite]

Which Panzer IV does it face at 6.3?

[arctic granite]

M8A1, any autocannon armed vehicle, M4A5, dozens of piston engine premiums... It's not so much of a cherrypick as much as it is an example

[sleek fractal]

Oh its Shermy

[arctic granite]

Kinda proving my point of player statistics aren't everything

[sleek fractal]

I missed you

[arctic granite]

❤️

[sleek fractal]

Where have you been

[arctic granite]

I can bring a M22 or M4 to 8.0 and ball out, that doesn't mean either vehicle is worthy of 8.0

[sleek fractal]

I know

[arctic granite]

Mad cap ngl, 3.7 is far more balanced

[sleek fractal]

Still its good steps that they are taking

3.7 is way to easy to sealclub with experts

ace*

Crews

[arctic granite]

I mean... I was seal clubbing with a stock M56 at 6.7

[sleek fractal]

The only p2w aspect in this game instantly buying full and ace crews

[arctic granite]

Like my best was 12-0 for the M56

[sleek fractal]

6.7 is mid BR range,thats not sealclubbing

[arctic granite]

🧢

[arctic granite]

It's seal clubbing no matter what considering I've got 10 times the amount of hours compared to most players, it's not the bracket that determines it, it's player experience

Keep in mind that 6.7 is really really easy to obtain these days so it's not the mid tier bracket it used to be

Disclaimer: any opinions posted here are not to be taken as fact, merely the opinion of an extremely seasoned player

Pay 2 win comes in so many forms it's insane, buying mods, buying premiums and of course buying broken event vehicles with backups and talismans is ridiculously pay 2 win

[sleek fractal]

Its not seal clubbing if you dont purposfully bash new players

[arctic granite]

But 6.7 players are typically relatively new

[sleek fractal]

Yeah and they wont learn the game til 11.7

[arctic granite]

If you're under 1500 hours, you're new

[sleek fractal]

Wow

Thats a high bar

[sleek fractal]

All of that doesnt give skill

[arctic granite]

It's not even trying to one up people, it's just that the game encompasses so much info that takes time to learn

[sleek fractal]

Crews give advantages

[arctic granite]

Yeah that's typically the thing with pay 2 win functions, having a laser rangefinder makes up the gap of not being able to range

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but everyone else also has LRF

[arctic granite]

All mods give advantages, all consumables give advantages

[arctic granite]

Not when the vehicle is stock, no.

Unless you're playing arcade

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but that changes.

[arctic granite]

Not really, you're either paying with money or time

[sleek fractal]

But an lrf is not pay 2 win wtf

[arctic granite]

It is to an extent, paying for parts and for is a significant advantage compared to stock

[sleek fractal]

Ace crews are cause they give massive advantages if your account is brand new an XM1 doesnt cause you dont have any clue on how to play

[arctic granite]

You skip suffering and have an advantage over people that don't have it

A fully upgraded tank is a massive advantage over a stock one

I could argue that point just from ammunition alone

See: HEAT Vs APFSDS

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but thats not P2W cause you can get that all by playing.I cant get an Ace crew without paying

[arctic granite]

Do you HAVE to pay for it? No, not monetarily. But paying for it still provides a short term advantage

[sleek fractal]

I mean it takes ridicioulus amount of time

Which i can just jump

Spading a stock vehicle takes only hours

[arctic granite]

Just because it's not paywalled doesn't mean it's not pay to win. See: new op vehicles coming out and pay pigs taking advantage of it before it gets nerfed

Not naming any wheeled Chinese vehicles

This issue is exasperated the higher the BR gets

[sleek fractal]

I like that its all a matter of opinion

[arctic granite]

That's most arguments tbqh

[sleek fractal]

I would like to cook my food now

[arctic granite]

Like back in March I did 1.9 mil rp for my homie

[sleek fractal]

I get your points but im not that harsh with it except for the crews

[arctic granite]

Not having APFSDS at 11.7 is like getting my scrotum corkscrewed by channel locks

I'd genuinely rather sandpaper a wildcat's asshole in a telephone booth than sling heat at 1990s mbts

[eternal zenith]

I still play reserve from time to time just to upset new players

gotta enjoy those 20+ kill matches, bonus points for reporting new players who DM you racial slurs

[eternal zenith]

you gotta love the Australian Abrams then

whoever thought that's a great idea... would've been better to just give you hesh as default instead of that garbage heat round

[arctic granite]

Haha remember back in 2019 when Russia was the only nation that got APFSDS stock

Hilarious!

[eternal zenith]

nice idea

[eternal zenith]

russia bias isn't real

[arctic granite]

I'm excited to see the next set of changes they make to the BR list

The BMP is finally being made 8.0

Only 4 years late

[eternal zenith]

If you believe their claims player numbers are higher than ever, might even make them consider BR decompression

[arctic granite]

Just make the spread 0.7 and I might play

[eternal zenith]

what, like fighting a 8.3 tank while playing 7.7?! madness

pain

rushing mbts like an idiot doesn't help the shitty belt

[arctic granite]

Yeah instead of being able to fight 8.7 as 7.7

[eternal zenith]

let's goooo

[eternal zenith]

you don't say

[sleek fractal]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8384/current/

[eternal zenith]

https://tenor.com/zN0n.gif

[eternal zenith]

ngl, sick of this asshole

So think it's possible to grind all of them this time around?

gonna be 120k points every second day with rank III+, this sounds not too hard. like 30 good missions a day. 5 hour daily grind

[sleek fractal]

It was possible last time

Which was also 40k

So yeah its possible

would be around 5 Hours of playing every 2 days

When it runs smooth

[arctic granite]

I actually despise this dude, I could go to great lengths to describe it

Him and smin are actual human garbage

[eternal zenith]

go on, rip on him if you like. I love people complaining about em

[arctic granite]

Nah bro I would get banned

[eternal zenith]

[arctic granite]

But I hate these people with a passion

[eternal zenith]

you mean language so bad the mods have to ?

[arctic granite]

Yeah absolutely

I can be very creative

[eternal zenith]

where my Yak prop planes with R-73 then

[arctic granite]

Like you might think I'm overzealous about hating on these people but once you realize it's been 10+ years of watching them do this shit you'd understand

[eternal zenith]

I completely agree. Not only them lying or twisting shit but also their arrogant bullshit behavior needs to be gone.

[arctic granite]

I would wholeheartedly support them being fired

Take me back

[eternal zenith]

ultra low quality

it was so nice when you could actually abuse it still

[arctic granite]

Hey back then we had 43 fps on our 1600x900 hp all in one

We got the job done

But hey I'll admit

Right now I have more hope for the game than I've had for the past 7 years.

I hope you all take notes of how a community can really make a game better by sticking it to the developer.

[sleek fractal]

Smin * is just retarded

[arctic granite]

Remember that they're fighting for your money, make them give you a reason to actually buy their products.

[sleek fractal]

Stona is quite nice sometimes

[arctic granite]

Yeah no absolutely, he's genuinely the worst person I've ever had the displeasure of trying to discuss anything with.

[sleek fractal]

Its the worst person we had to deal with due event organisation etc etc

Stona is ok

He can be nice

But SMIN

HOLY FUCK

fuck this man

biggest asshole next to that CEO guy in that one article

[arctic granite]

I genuinely hate stona

A story in two parts

[sleek fractal]

That Hangar analysis is crap

It works in there but most times not in Matches

[arctic granite]

Works on my machine

Cool

[cold lichen]

?

The M4A3E2 can body a Tiger II P

The Tiger 2 H tho

[arctic granite]

The E2 has to aim at specific weak points, the Tiger can just auto tap

[arctic granite]

I like how the addition of 85mm of turret armor somehow makes it an entirely different situation, curious...

[cold lichen]

Yeah, cause when I use the M4A3 HVSS and I face tiger 2 Ps I have no issues

Of course, it still sucks to fight a tiger 2 in a 76 jumbo

And why a set of 1000lb bombs are on their way to absolutely annilate his ass

[arctic granite]

I have no issues fighting T-80BVMs in my M8A1. That doesn't mean it's balanced or fair

[arctic granite]

So what you're saying is your vehicle isn't up to the task so you have to pull out the no skill auto delete feature. Neat.

[cold lichen]

Are you saying the 76 jumbo is over tiered or the Tiger 2 P is undertiered

[cold lichen]

Oh yeah

Cause Its free SL and RP

Granted, 9/10 he gets fucked by a T34 or T-44

[arctic granite]

Is it really? The RP you get from it isn't even above the triple digits most of the time. The SL is usually lost by repair costs.

[cold lichen]

I get what you are coming from when it comes to planes bombing tanks

They usually just kill themselves

[arctic granite]

It's generally a waste of time to use aircraft in ground battles

[cold lichen]

Its not a waste

You can turn battles with planes

[arctic granite]

Yeah but you're still wasting that time by not using your ground vehicles, missing out on actual SL/RP gain

Only time I bring an aircraft is to stat pad or abuse events

Anyone I can kill with a plane I can kill with a tank

[cold lichen]

Not really cause all the time you spend is battle add up more and more RP multiplier

• winning the battle of couse

[arctic granite]

No because you're switching the RP gain to air which is never worth it

[cold lichen]

If you are losing and hop into a plane it makes no sense