🛩war-thunder

[keen sequoia]

I got like 20k points or whatever the first reward is, the decal in like 2 matches

if the points system will be the same for the truck

then

you'll get it easily

if I managed to get it in like 2 matches

[sleek fractal]

You can never make 20k points in 2 Matches

The usual point events are 40k for a Star and that takes me usualy,depending on which, in air 1 Hour and 30 Minutes or for Ground 2 Hours minimum.

[keen sequoia]

oh

idk then

[sleek fractal]

tha in the blue Area is the mission score

[keen sequoia]

Yes

I was mistaken then

[solar bolt]

YES YES YEEEESSS 35k in TWO HOURS HAHAHAHAHHA

[sleek fractal]

Wtf is wrong with you ?

[solar bolt]

in last summer and autumn for leo2AV, F4D and other garbage i spent about 3 weeks from early morning to evening

2 hours - if u will play in SB on 7+ range

But i still have only 7.3 br top

[sleek fractal]

Thats not my problem

[solar bolt]

Of cos

[sleek fractal]

the highter the BR the better the modifier

Also SB gave best and RB 2. best

[solar bolt]

Fuck the modifiers

[sleek fractal]

i play only RB

If you play arcade thats your problem too

[solar bolt]

Tasks better

[solar bolt]

The old system was amazing - for tasks

[sleek fractal]

The tasks always were bullshit and every single person sweattet so hard to complete them it was disgusting

[solar bolt]

Not stupid grind

[sleek fractal]

So you rather complete missions instead of just normaly playing

[solar bolt]

Tasks was better anyway

[solar bolt]

Grind for many hours - isnt "normal" playing

[sleek fractal]

2 hours

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That one match was already 1/10

[solar bolt]

Ecpecially for that crap like latest events vehicles

[sleek fractal]

The Leo2AV is actualy good since they buffed it

[solar bolt]

Andrusha, Tornado, Leo2AV etc etc etc piece of shit

Ok, in my opinion...

[sleek fractal]

I do agree with the other Vehicles,they are shit

But still the Point events are so much easier and less of a hassle.

So far ive got my Stars in 2 hours maybe 2 hours and 30 minutes

First person i see complaining about that.

[solar bolt]

"2 hours" yep

[solar bolt]

Its worse than tasks lmao

[solar bolt]

8-10 hours for summer event i remember that for all my life

fuck that

[sleek fractal]

it cant be worse if it was changed from doing something to doing nothing

i call it skill issue

ah no more Devblog today

Was supposed to drop but they didnt because of all the other news

[arctic granite]

takes me like 2 hours at most

[arctic granite]

depends on the tasks

2016 tasks were ass aids

Tasks can be done quicker but points are more consistent

[arctic granite]

git gud

[sleek fractal]

[arctic granite]

I'm doing it for three accounts so I don't wanna hear any bitching

[solar bolt]

[sleek fractal]

deserved suffering

[solar bolt]

Да да, конечно, верю. U right, u very good

[arctic granite]

I get paid for it so it's worth it

[sleek fractal]

i cost 46€ the hour so that would definetly wasted time for me since nobody would pay me that xD

[solar bolt]

I call it "i have life not only for game"

[sleek fractal]

Im working from 7 to 17 and got 2 Cats,a GF and a household to do

And still manage to do that every 2 days

I only hear excuses

[arctic granite]

just get good

[sleek fractal]

Already nearly 4k points easy

[arctic granite]

they even let you abuse low tier stuff

[sleek fractal]

and it doesnt event take way less time on low tier

Event modifiers aint that bad except you play Arcade

[arctic granite]

just frag out

[eternal zenith]

bro out here having a meltdown over skill issue

[arctic granite]

easy

[sleek fractal]

nearly 1/3 of the mission in one go

[eternal zenith]

dude

[sleek fractal]

remember that time ?

God im looking through all my old screens xD

Sucks for all of the people that dont have it

Since they replaced it with the same machine higher in BR

[arctic granite]

god

take me back to 3.7 airspawn P-47

[sleek fractal]

Good times

one hit with the AP-I and the enemy bursted into flames

[arctic granite]

I used to pull 8-0s back when there was 60 minutes of gameplay left

[lusty herald]

oh shit ultra low quality settings

[arctic granite]

it's meta

[lusty herald]

It reminds me of Hogs of War for the PS1, that was a nice wargame

[sleek fractal]

i never used ultra low even when it was meta,only disabled grass for the ridge line shots.

It sucks that different shit now disappears for me as well in the distance to counter ULQ settings advantage

[sleek fractal]

They wanted to remake that

oh i just see its also on Steam

[arctic granite]

Bro plays on low graphics

💀

Play maxxed out with reshade raytracing for lols

no point

I play maxxed out

Me king

Me big sex man

sorry to hear that

Your missing out man

not really, WT looks like garbage no matter the settings

Warthunder really is 10x as awesome with big sex graphics

likr woahg this game is pretty!

Senõr, yuo must enable big chungus graphicals, it is written in the book that yuo must....

If the developers don't want people using lower graphical settings they wouldn't include them as an option

[eternal zenith]

what good are photorealistic graphics when immersion breaking glitches are a regular occurance

[lusty herald]

so you can see x-ray replay in 4k as you get ricochet pen through the wingmirror and the shrapnel 360 gibs your crew

[arctic granite]

the immersive experience of being dropped face first into unrealistic battlefields fighting tanks that aren't even from the same decade as you

[eternal zenith]

the abrams crew when they hear the distinct clutter of beer bottles while the smell of bratwurst fills the air

https://tenor.com/bUllz.gif

[arctic granite]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-aaugh-aughhh-gif-26227378

The Russian crew when the autoloader rips off their arm

[eternal zenith]

Me flanking a heavy tank using a SPAA ||I didn't see the M41 beside me||

[sleek fractal]

If your lucky enough easy anti cheat detects reshade as hack and bans you

[eager vault]

conscript, you should have listened to basic training. Now shut up and load the gun.

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https://warthunder.com/en/news/8228/current/

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Probably cluster bombs

[eternal zenith]

AA nightmare

maybe clustered AT mines 👀

[sleek fractal]

Later today will be Twitch streams with Drops on the Esports channels

Thats the drops

Skins look good

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8215-esport-air-superiority-tournament-and-twitch-drops-en

[dense beacon]

Nah, my bet is it's gonna be the ADM-141 TALD

"Tactical Air-Launched Decoy"

Gonna fill the enemy radars with false-positives

It can even spoof friendlies

[sleek fractal]

you dont know gaijin well

[dense beacon]

Hey man, the snail might do it lmao

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An article about a strike craft with specified ground attack options

[dense beacon]

The F-14B wasn't specifically a strike craft

It was an upgraded version of the A, a much needed upgrade after a little while

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Read the article,look at the leaks,it will be cluster bombs

[dense beacon]

Think of the B as more of an Attacker than anything

[sleek fractal]

Otherwise they wouldnt specify the ground strike options it has

[dense beacon]

I'm still hedging my bets on the TALD, a cluster bomb is still a bomb so that "new to the game type of weapon" part isn't entirely accurate if it is gonna be clusters

Regardless, I'll be happy either way lmao

[sleek fractal]

Either way its a dumb not needed addition to another power creep

[dense beacon]

But you're probably right too, the B variant was introduced with mostly strike missions in mind given the A-6E Intruder had just been retired. The USN needed a new platform until a replacement came along (which never did lmao) so they used the F-14 as a base to work from, then came the F-14D which kept everything good about both and just made it better.
Then the F-18 was finally introduced and replaced them all

[dense beacon]

Cries in Top Tier

[arctic granite]

More sleepy top tier devblogs

💤

[arctic granite]

lorraine 40 my beloved

what a husk of what it used to be

[keen sequoia]

@eternal zenith lets fucking go

I'm the fighting cock

[keen sequoia]

[keen sequoia]

Tad close

[arctic granite]

You know what would be a nice

a revamp to the binocular system

[arctic granite]

It's been a static position for so long, we could use better optical systems instead of more garbage premiums that only tards will buy

[eternal zenith]

very nice

[subtle hazel]

oops

didnt mean to do that

[sleek fractal]

and it didnt give you anything since the match was over

[arctic granite]

I killed a IS-2 cross map with hesh at the last second and it didn't count

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/tIuYhJA.jpeg

this thing is a warcrime

[eternal zenith]

such bullshit, basketball rules should apply

[arctic granite]

👆🏻

[eternal zenith]

if the round is in the air it should count

[arctic granite]

buzzer beater

[eternal zenith]

did you have enough for a nuke at the end?

[arctic granite]

I never check

because nukes are for people who can't carry

[eternal zenith]

[eternal zenith]

Inspired me to make up a modern APFSDS dart diagram

[arctic granite]

remove sabaton and it's now funny

[eternal zenith]

it's a discarding sabaton

[arctic granite]

reddit joke

[keen sequoia]

That maus would single-handedly bring that plane the fuck down

[arctic granite]

Not quite

The C-5 can carry 140+ tons and the Maus is only like 180, some minor modifications could see it carry it

[frigid carbon]

war thunder animals

what premium jet plane should i get for Russia

[keen sequoia]

Uh

mIG-23

although its not on sale atm

so

SU-25

MIG-23 will be on sale in 2 months

[sleek fractal]

SU-25 is clusterfuck but at the same time overpowered

Depends on the up or downtier

[arctic granite]

oh wow t34e and is2 are for sale agaon

been so long

[arctic granite]

None of them

[eternal zenith]

anyone know if the GE app still exists?

[keen sequoia]

the what now

[eternal zenith]

back when there was a app you could watch ads on and get GE for it. never used it cause it was retarded but I think it was legit

[keen sequoia]

damn

[eternal zenith]

I'm thinking if it still exists I might try and look into the code, see if I might be able to spoof it and run it on a bunch of VMs

Got a new ARM server today and already thinking of a couple of fun ways to test it out

[keen sequoia]

ARM?

[eternal zenith]

It's a CPU type with relatively low power consumption for certain tasks that don't require the same features a normal intel CPU has for example. Like your phone runs on an ARM chip. They been getting affordable now for server use and I got a pretty nice second hand unit

[keen sequoia]

oh

cool

[sleek fractal]

The app still exists

[keen sequoia]

How much GE per ad

[eternal zenith]

it's not some simple ad sadly. you gotta do tasks from time to time. something like 0.7GE for a 5 minute quiz

I'm trying to understand how the authentication works so I can think of a way to cheese it

but knowing the snail they'd probably ban your acc if you managed to get a useful amount of GE in a short amount of time

[eternal zenith]

always rember, when day is bad, you can into reserve match and dunk on newbies

[solar bolt]

Impossible...

[arctic granite]

works on my machine

[eternal zenith]

Russian bias isn't real, it can't hurt you
Russian bias:

[arctic granite]

Isn't this the 2.3 with the sub 3 second reload

[eternal zenith]

ye

[arctic granite]

yeah he's cracked

but my 3.0 with a 4 second reload and better mobility is better

[eternal zenith]

which one's that?

[arctic granite]

T18E2

I'm 10:1 in it

[eternal zenith]

Man I wish I had a boarhound. Missed the event

[arctic granite]

time to abuse the 103-0 some more

[hardy epoch]

times are hard

0 boosters too

[eternal zenith]

do the daily PvE, you got 2x boosters already

[arctic granite]

how did you get into this situation

[hardy epoch]

the vickers mk 7 was not worth it

also pve is boring

[arctic granite]

Like pvp is anything better

The Mk 7 sucks stick with the Mk 1

[hardy epoch]

I mean i like it so far, just a bad spending decision since i aint got any premiums

[arctic granite]

did you buy it full price

[hardy epoch]

Discountes

[eternal zenith]

I'm saving up for the AH-64

[arctic granite]

cool war thunder content

[sly nebula]

ahh shit...

Sorry!

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/LM0iSUA.png

these rewards suck

Like this income is actual garbage I wish they never changed it

[arctic granite]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/816740244313473074/1104940489536454676/FvfqLCOaUAA8zc8.png?width=910&height=910

[keen sequoia]

Dunno man 10.3 arb is alot of fun

[arctic granite]

opinions people with less than 4,000 hours hold

[eternal zenith]

[hardy epoch]

When you are not being sexually assaulted by cas and helis, top tier can be fun aswell

I do agree though that the most fun br is 8.0

[sleek fractal]

8.0 is indeed plenty of fun

But mostly due to clubbing in a downtier

Its fun for the wrong reasons

[solar bolt]

everywhere higher then 7.3 nonplayable

except uniq vehicles

[solar bolt]

lol realy?

ive only one 9.7 Leo with NVG

but so familiar pictures

[sleek fractal]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8232/current/

Boat

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/13bk42b/body_pillows_datamined_probabley_for_the_upcoming/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[keen sequoia]

Skill issue moment

Did a cobra

Wing overload crash

fucking planted into a building

[arctic granite]

The skill ceiling for ground lowers exponentially with every 1.0 you increase after like 5.0

[eternal zenith]

you can delete everything after the /? to shorten the link

[eternal zenith]

Ever since you mentioned the cobra I've been trying to use it to dunk of people and it works so well

not a real one tho, I guess

[keen sequoia]

[keen sequoia]

How do you perform it?

If it's using S,D,E then I think it's called a horizontal flat spin or smth, but it's close enough (It's what I do lmao)

[eternal zenith]

I just hit W shortly, then hold S and push W again while holding fire

[keen sequoia]

[eternal zenith]

When I say it works well I mean most of the time I'm already on fire since I had a dogfighter on my six

[keen sequoia]

true

[solar bolt]

How many battles in SB mode would allow me to be considered proficient in SB?

[arctic granite]

2000 in both air and ground

[solar bolt]

I mean Air SB, except jets 6+

[solar bolt]

LMAO

[arctic granite]

2000

[solar bolt]

But honestly u right

[arctic granite]

If you wanna be proficient at something you have to commit a lot of time

[solar bolt]

The only mode I like to play for gameplay, not for grind

[solar bolt]

I understand, but in air SB 90% of time - patroling and flat spins...

[arctic granite]

Sounds like a skill issue

[solar bolt]

Bruh

Patroling and rarity PvP

[arctic granite]

"wtf I have to do sim stuff in my simulator game mode"

[solar bolt]

But hard, atmospheric and playable unlike RB

[arctic granite]

Not true

[solar bolt]

No, on the contrary, that's what I liked about it. It's nice to compete with the plane and my flying skills there.

Bots are more dangerous than people here

But the penalties are very mean.

[solar bolt]

-50% farm for one accindential shot lmao

[eternal zenith]

yo somethings fucked up with your text

[solar bolt]

cos iam russian

thats is

[eternal zenith]

[solar bolt]

please no politics dude even here

[eternal zenith]

I was just kidding about the cyrillic

[keen sequoia]

@eternal zenith Cobra moment

[eternal zenith]

[arctic granite]

sorry to hear that

[sleek fractal]

classic overpen with no spalling at all

Wait

Thats HEAT

Fuck this

[arctic granite]

this game's hit registration and damage models SUCK

[sleek fractal]

They fucked up the 2B a long time ago indeed

[eternal zenith]

loader should've been hit by that tbh

position of crew is completely made up

[sleek fractal]

Its a game.Not a Simulator

Not even the damage modells are realistic

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1705180/Gunner_HEAT_PC/

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▶ Play video

if you want something fairly realistic

its made by fed up Warthunder players

[arctic granite]

This is cope. They constantly spout how realistic and accurately modeled their vehicles and damage models are.

GHPC is a tech demo and won't be more than that due to the development pace and small staff

It's certainly not worth the 30, maybe 10.

[arctic granite]

It's a BILL, not a TOW-2B

[keen sequoia]

Based game

[arctic granite]

Even if it didn't damage the crew, that electronics and turret would have been fried

[sleek fractal]

They outsourced modell making and they are not actual scans of real life vehicles so they cant be accurate xD

[sleek fractal]

i see,so they fucked all top downs which doesnt make it better

[arctic granite]

They make the claims, I'm certainly not saying they are accurate

[sleek fractal]

Even WoT has some more accurate modells than Warthunder for some Vehicles that do exist.

ofc they are rare because most is made up shit.

[eternal zenith]

"electronics" is a strech in a PTL-02 from what I've seen online

[eternal zenith]

playing the Bradley is so much fun

But I can't imagine TOWs being this hard to use IRL

[arctic granite]

Give 5 examples

[arctic granite]

The vehicle has thermals and a LRF, I'd imagine it also has a FCS

Also that's not a PTL-02

it's the ZTL-11

[eternal zenith]

oh, nvmd. Yeah that checks out

[arctic granite]

only reason I know that is because I played a couple rounds in it

it's kinda cracked

[eternal zenith]

it is. Wheely tanks are the best

[arctic granite]

It has dogshit reverse and no depression

it's also as a big as a house

but being able to front plate T-72As and T-64Bs is a huge positive

[eternal zenith]

what would you say is your most loathed enemy?

for me it's prolly merkava

[arctic granite]

Genuinely depends on what I'm playing

But if it's tanks then some form of aircraft

[eternal zenith]

well. yeah. But AA should take care of those

[arctic granite]

If AA wasn't gimped or woefully underequipped maybe

Not to mention >manpads

[eternal zenith]

that would be the day

[arctic granite]

Every single manpads player is free RP for the enemy

[eternal zenith]

wait, what manpads you mean?

[arctic granite]

Anything armed with a stringer or strela

[eternal zenith]

why is that free rp?

[arctic granite]

Aircraft invalid ground games to the point where there's no reason to hold corners or ambush people because after 2-3 kills some sped is just going to know exactly where you are and erase you

[arctic granite]

Because they cannot kill tanks

So me in my tank finds a manpads player and erases it

But NOT ONLY that

Manpads in this game are so underdeveloped and incorrect that they can't even kill planes unless it's a perfect shot or the warhead has a proxy fuse

[eternal zenith]

true

[arctic granite]

There is absolutely zero reason for the Gepard 1A2 to be 9.7 if the Gepard is 8.0

[eternal zenith]

having a stinger be shook by a short twitch in the opposing direction is a bit silly

[arctic granite]

in my honest opinion, all AA should have any form of anti armor rounds removed and be dropped by 1.0

[sleek fractal]

Some Sherman and Panther variants they have ingame

Since they actualy made scans

i think there was even a Youtube video

[eternal zenith]

also it's so fucking dumb to obsess over the gepards backup AP magazine of 40 flechette rounts but not give it the airburst ammo

[sleek fractal]

"balancing"

[arctic granite]

All that does is enable people to use their AA guns as tank destroyers instead of DOING THEIR ONE AND ONLY JOB

[sleek fractal]

Well its quite effective actualy even without the AP mag

in real life

and ingame

[arctic granite]

Yeah the 35mm KDA has a slew of irl MBT kills

[sleek fractal]

Cant post this due Server rules.

[eternal zenith]

Speaking of shitty design decisions, anyone play armored warfare?

[sleek fractal]

HELL STOP

I HELPED DEVELOPING IT

[arctic granite]

Yeah, I have a friend who gets everything in that game for free

It's a neat game

[sleek fractal]

I was in the balancing Team after the Beta

And when they threw out Obsidian everything went to shit

If you want to play PvE the game is fine,but in every PvP aspect this game is FUBAR

[eternal zenith]

I mean, yeah. That's why I mentioned the shitty decision making. I was hopeful

[sleek fractal]

https://www.facebook.com/ArmoredWarfare/posts/invite-your-friends-to-armored-warfare-and-enjoy-the-great-odem-mortis-community/1893228734239545/

This was us

[eternal zenith]

I think it actually has better driving mechanics than WT - yeah that doesn't mean much

[arctic granite]

It has been 10 years

where is regenerative steering

[eternal zenith]

10 years

[sleek fractal]

i still have my season 0 rewards to flex around for nothing lel

[eternal zenith]

no, it just came out last yea...

[arctic granite]

talking about bore blunder

[eternal zenith]

[solar bolt]

mates why 90% of player are playing only on first four major nations

Yes i saw sometimes several ZTSDFDACSC and other chinashit' with unpronounceable names in logograms but mostly players likes only USA, USSR, UK and German

Wtf... Minor' nations also interesting in ground and air

[solar bolt]

XDDDD

[eternal zenith]

first nations in the game
people buy premiums for them
hmm

[eternal zenith]

explain

[solar bolt]

PEDOPHILE

+5k in reserves vehicles

[eternal zenith]

lol. that's actually pretty hilarious

[solar bolt]

Mosty effective in their BR

[arctic granite]

minors are not worth the time usually

[arctic granite]

This is objectively the most fun part of the game

[solar bolt]

Well... Idk

[solar bolt]

And they don't have half the number of first nations machines (((

This is especially evident in the branches of the USSR and Germany, where there are 100500 clones in one rank (

Wtf i asked and answered myself

[arctic granite]

there is no reason to go beyond rank 3

[solar bolt]

ratels?)

But so many clones

[arctic granite]

If someone wants to play tiers 1-2 and never leave them more power to them

[solar bolt]

4(!) or more versions of M24, shermans, t34, t54 etc etc etc

[arctic granite]

You can play the big three and never touch another nation and you wouldn't miss out on anything

[sleek fractal]

especialy this guy holy,13k kills on 2,4k death is even for Arcade pretty amazing.

[arctic granite]

that's what? less than 5:1?

Not really that impressive against people who don't really know how to play

[solar bolt]

ab
reserve

Not in SB lol

[arctic granite]

?

[solar bolt]

Its not game-style

[arctic granite]

?

[solar bolt]

Its pedophile

[arctic granite]

dude what

[solar bolt]

People like him deserve only to be banned

[arctic granite]

what? why

Because he played the game? 😂

[solar bolt]

Cos he pedophile

[arctic granite]

??????

[solar bolt]

and bullied rookeis in 1-2 br

nothing to talking there

[arctic granite]

I bully ranks 1-4 all the time

[solar bolt]

ranks

Not br

[arctic granite]

are you supposed to be barred from playing vehicles I already have

[solar bolt]

And even non in AB

[arctic granite]

like damn bro there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to play 1.0 even if you have 15.0

[solar bolt]

Reserves arent machines for playing

[arctic granite]

Yes they are

[solar bolt]

there are only in 1-2 evening for grind and next stage

[arctic granite]

No they're not, you can play whatever BR you want no matter what you need to research

[solar bolt]

if u have 15.0 - playing on 15.0

[arctic granite]

Absolutely not

[solar bolt]

[arctic granite]

if I have 15.0 I'll play 1.0 if I feel like it

[solar bolt]

Totally yes

[arctic granite]

I've reearched 11.0s using my 2.0s before

it was fun

[solar bolt]

Ye ye yeah i believe u of cos

90% penalties for exp

[sleek fractal]

Its still possible

[solar bolt]

How many tens of thousands of fights does that take?

[sleek fractal]

Just takes thousands of matches

[arctic granite]

roughly 400.

If you get 1k rp a game

[sleek fractal]

400 matches for one Vehicle

Yeah thats a lot

[solar bolt]

Sturmtiger isnt 2.0 stock

[arctic granite]

The goal isn't to get the next fotm top tier shitbox, it's to have fun

[sleek fractal]

im not questioning your intelligence right now but wtf

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/RAWTjdT.png

?

[solar bolt]

Bruh sorry)

Dont saw

[arctic granite]

fuckin slavs man...

[solar bolt]

ok but its masochism

[arctic granite]

It's not

[solar bolt]

not fun

[arctic granite]

playing 2.0 is objectively more fun than higher BRs

[sleek fractal]

Its mine though thats why im so burned out again since ive gotta grind multiple 11.0 tanks

[solar bolt]

RB

[arctic granite]

yeah you don't have to grind those vehicles

[solar bolt]

in RB maybe

[arctic granite]

in any game mode

[solar bolt]

ive been played since 2013

and still havent any researched pre-top or top higher then 9.7

[eternal zenith]

I'd say skipping sweden is giving up a lot of fun and fresh gameplay

[solar bolt]

for event lol

[eternal zenith]

Bkan alone is worth grinding Sweden

[solar bolt]

but if u play more effective... hmm

[arctic granite]

ah yes, the fresh gameplay such as:
T-72 copy
T-34 copy
P-51 copy
early war vehicles that are overtiered or gimmicks

Major nations have SPHs so 💤

[arctic granite]

I've been playing since 2013 too, I have top tier in most nations

US needs it's T92, M109 and M110

[solar bolt]

belissimo...

[eternal zenith]

gimmicks are fun

[arctic granite]

For like 2 matches maybe

[solar bolt]

iam in jealous XD

[sleek fractal]

[sleek fractal]

i saw the Pony Event and had to start playing

[eternal zenith]

but do you have the 9 year veteran patch?

[arctic granite]

I have my old guard title

[sleek fractal]

do you mean a title or an Emblem

I have old guard too

[eternal zenith]

emblem

I think I saw it once.

it's mysterious

I have a plan to get it. I want to start working for snail as a support guy, work my way up the ranks and eventually just give my account the decal. Should be faster than actually logging in for 9 years straight

[sleek fractal]

all my titles xD

[keen sequoia]

Mission impossible type shit ey

[eternal zenith]

Rammer

[sleek fractal]

Theres one for logging in 9 years yeah

but i aint having that

cause i had log in breaks

[keen sequoia]

To log in for 9 years people have to have literally no life

No log in breaks

No holidays

Nothing

[arctic granite]

you get numerous days before it resets

[keen sequoia]

War thunder everyday

[arctic granite]

so you can skip a day or two no prob

[sleek fractal]

i skipped weeks

[arctic granite]

where is your scroll bar...

[keen sequoia]

I skipped months

[sleek fractal]

good question,i had one a few days ago and i was wondering myself lol

[solar bolt]

ive been baned in our Ru forum for politics LMAO

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/uiC0gGD.png

[solar bolt]

User information is not available

[arctic granite]

All of these cavalier titles are homosexual

[solar bolt]

why

[arctic granite]

useless filler

[solar bolt]

Its elite titles

Are*

[arctic granite]

No it's not

Plus none of these new titles or challenges count past kills

so I have God of War (100,000 kills) but not this kill 7500 one

[solar bolt]

only very oldest players have them

[arctic granite]

no dude they're brand new

[solar bolt]

about 0.0001 - 0.0005% of players

[arctic granite]

I'm convinced you're just typing for the hell of it at this point

[solar bolt]

Old Guard too?

[arctic granite]

Is that a cavalier title?

[solar bolt]

yep

[sleek fractal]

no its not

[solar bolt]

For 2013 or before players

YES

[sleek fractal]

Old Guard has not Cavalier in its title

[arctic granite]

I don't think he understands enough english to comprehend the conversation at hand

[sleek fractal]

maybe

Best Title is Sherman Hunter anyway

[solar bolt]

Shit... Mea culpa guys

I dont understand u

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/FYYmSVn.png

these titles are recent additions

this one is not

[solar bolt]

++ these titles for buying something

[arctic granite]

no they're not

[solar bolt]

If i right remember

[arctic granite]

you remember wrong

https://i.imgur.com/zcgaYR5.png

[solar bolt]

For events?

[arctic granite]

they all have ways to earn them

[solar bolt]

uh

I remember everything

[arctic granite]

clearly not

[solar bolt]

They were handed out on the old accounts before the performance conditions were changed, exactly

[arctic granite]

no they weren't

they're new additions

https://i.imgur.com/gJEhv37.png

you can't get these anymore

[solar bolt]

Roger that

[eternal zenith]

wow. last update gaijin ruined the only fun map by adding dead zones one the cheesy spots

Anyone interested in crowdfunding a hit on Anton?

[arctic granite]

I know plenty of people who would

[eternal zenith]

yeah, I would never...

[junior sequoia]

i like how this server has a channel for 2 of the most depressing games to grind possible

[eternal zenith]

I enjoy getting bombed by some jet flying by at mach 2

remember blue warbonds?

[arctic granite]

yeah...

[keen sequoia]

Wait whats a dead zone?

[arctic granite]

A place you cannot go or live within

[eternal zenith]

you gonna get a 24 seconds countdown like if you exit map bounds

those were amazing spots for sniping and dunking on them fools. RIP

[keen sequoia]

Damn

Thats cringe asf gaijin wtf

[arctic granite]

you will rush mindlessly down one of three lanes, you will die numerous times, you will be happy.

[keen sequoia]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3lfRuSJY680

@eternal zenith : or

[eternal zenith]

add the M2A2 for maximum dumb fun

[keen sequoia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SATyGIYqExk

This goes hard with the f-5

[eternal zenith]

I think it's hilarious that a single ma deuce can just decimate the entire enemy team

[keen sequoia]

AHAHAH

Just got MGed and hit by a fucking missile

and still flew for 9ks before crashing

[solar bolt]

bruh

[keen sequoia]

@eternal zenith The snail strikes again.....

https://tenor.com/view/crying-black-guy-meme50fps-interpolated-interpolated-crying-black-guy-crying-crying-black-guy-gif-23747218

[keen sequoia]

Interesting

[soft oracle]

The combo

[eternal zenith]

sorry, but I won't ever not make fun of the 2S38

this post was brought to you by cope and seethe - hating on premiums since 2018

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1082538688971558952.webp?size=56&quality=lossless

[arctic granite]

Premiums were okay until about 2016

[sleek fractal]

how old is the KV1B ?

2015

they were ok til 2015

[arctic granite]

That's not so much a premium as it is an event vehicle

The general term premium refers to those which are readily purchasable

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It was buyable

[arctic granite]

"aside from these events it is not available in game or via the gift shop"

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"Purchasing selected MSI products"

[arctic granite]

The pocket poky and Russia Mk IX are also event vehicles

[arctic granite]

During a specified timeframe which is akin to being during an event

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Pocket poky?

[arctic granite]

Alexander Pokryshkin's P-39

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Ah that one

[arctic granite]

Only available during his birthday and not every year

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I still see it as premium just as my 109 G-2

Only available if you buy hardware.

[arctic granite]

Or the D.521

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That was that funny french thing wasnt it?

Gosh thats old

[arctic granite]

It's just a D.520 with a funky skin iirc

Nvm

It has a Merlin and different guns

[soft oracle]

Man made horrors

[arctic granite]

Slavic delusions

[untold island]

I remember hitting the 1 mil twice in a row, stopped playing the game right after that though

[eternal zenith]

https://tenor.com/JF38.gif

[soft oracle]

2S38 with Spike isn't pure horror?

[arctic granite]

Not really no

Unarmored chassis that dies from a single hit to the hull

[soft oracle]

Single hit from what?

It literally eats M735

[eternal zenith]

I bring marders to the game specifically to dunk on 2S38s

[arctic granite]

Anything with more than 100mm of pen tbqh

[eternal zenith]

otherwise just hold fire in a IFV and aim for the front

[arctic granite]

Just shoot the hull

[eternal zenith]

the 3 crew are also so neatly positioned in a row

if you hit center the spalling produced by the middle guy's cranium takes out the other 2 in one hit

[arctic granite]

Most people aim for the turret like retards

[eternal zenith]

yeah, it's the scary part. but the hull is a literal shoebox

[arctic granite]

Also why is the word g ay auto moderated in this server

[eternal zenith]

because of gay-ass discord rules probably

[arctic granite]

wild

[eternal zenith]

interesting texture bug on the 103

placing decals on the front of the barrel spreads it across the entire tank if mirror 2 is selected

[arctic granite]

I think that's a feature

[eternal zenith]

used a black decal, kidna looks cool now

[arctic granite]

let's see it

[eternal zenith]

after consideration, it still looks terrible

I was hoping to blend into sand

idk if you can use decal to break your silouette

[arctic granite]

That goes hard

But no you cannot

[keen sequoia]

One of my favorite passtimes

[keen sequoia]

gаy

By the grace of Allah I bypassed the fiilter

off to a good start

[eternal zenith]

gаy

[keen sequoia]

By the grace of Allah he too bypassed the flter

[arctic granite]

I suppose it applies only to the lower echelons of the server

[keen sequoia]

You just don't have the grace of Allah

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Dont tempt the mods

[eternal zenith]

[keen sequoia]

[lusty herald]

wonder why gaijin haven't stolen Enlisted's idea yet and just let you spawn as a group for some vehicles it would make sense e.g. aa trucks and dive bombers

imagine side battles where everyone spawns as multiples as well, huge combined arms fest

[keen sequoia]

Because then they would have identical games

As I'm sure you know Enlisted is made by Gaijin

[eternal zenith]

when star conflict merge? add some lazor planes to se game

[lusty herald]

Man Star Conflict was the first one I played and I realised as soon as you get into like rank 2/3? it was bullshit
FUCK YEAH, EVERYONE HAS EMP BUBBLE/NUKE BALL COMBO YEEEAH
I LOVE CC AND AOE

but yeah if you're going to lean on realism to not do a good job at balance and then don't commit to realism why not just do both and have AI squadmates
I only see an alternative for helping niche roles be role based matchmaking and fuck that, one thing I'm glad WT doesn't have compared to WoT

[nova turtle]

where documents?

[analog sinew]

if I remember correctly, some mf leaked flight manual of the f-35 on war thunder

[eternal zenith]

why did my incoming connection request count just tripple

[analog sinew]

[nova turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/we-got-him-ladies-and-gentlemen-em-gif-15781907

[eternal zenith]

translation: A feature people had fun with was removed because our premium sales didn't break the 8 digit quarterly revenue mark

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Its happening again

[arctic granite]

why does it look like someone pissed on that screenshot

[arctic granite]

cracked vehicle, good roll

Is there a way to turn off the seal vehicles

[lusty herald]

buy gamer supps and it'll go away I think

[keen sequoia]

Buy guacamole gamer fart 9000 and they'll disappear

New crates it seems

[arctic granite]

you mean the ones they announced five days ago?

[keen sequoia]

I've only seen them today

[arctic granite]

You should read the devblogs

They even detail everything that's in them

[arctic granite]

look all im saying is the centurian avre should be dropped to 4.0

if anything it should be pushed higher

8.0 would be good

https://i.imgur.com/mLAuVcv.png

blue players are bots

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/Pmqiq3H.png

yeah it's not going to be too hard to research top tier with tier 2s

Only like 200 games

[sleek fractal]

200 games is a lot when you consider that people think 40 Matches for a Vehicle is long

The difference in that is you have fun,they have not.

[arctic granite]

40 matches for a vehicle is long

[sleek fractal]

considering its a grindy F2P Game.

I do agree it got grindier than it should be,it definetly was better when there wasnt that much shit to research

They should remove researching modules except for Ammo.

But then they wont make money on module sales

[arctic granite]

ammo shouldn't be researchable

but better mobility should (since it's the meta)

[sleek fractal]

Then they can remove plenty of Darts.

or other AP Ammo

[arctic granite]

Yeah they should be stock lmao

Suffering through HEAT shouldn't be a gameplay feature

[sleek fractal]

True.

Even if HEAT has its purpose you shouldnt be forced to it.

[soft oracle]

Everything should be researchable except parts and fpe

[arctic granite]

okay have fun researching your crew, armor, tracks, roadwheels, headlights, sprockets, fuel lines, engine block, cylinders, gasket...

The only modules you should have to research is mobility upgrades like engine, tracks or filters

stuff like adjustment of fire and shells should be included with the SL purchase

If not then vehicles should have dynamic battle ratings until they are capable of being their current battle rating

[soft oracle]

Either you get stock factory vehicle and upgrades that you research are like 2nd gen thermals, new rounds, additional armor or you get it parts ans you have to research like it is now just without FPE and parts

[arctic granite]

Nah, because the way it works is that shells are often cycled through the tank. You don't have to worry about fuel why should you have to worry about shells. Ammo should be given to you without paying in SL or RP

Piston rings and air filters often wear out over time so it can be reasoned that you have to "upgrade" those

[soft oracle]

No nees to upgrade

Just repair

Since there is repair system

Accounts for the crew

You aren't deployed by someone else

It's your job deploying

You pay for it

Also considering that you shouldn't pay for the shells you should also get random number and variant of projectile

[arctic granite]

"it's your job deploying"

??

The tanks belong to each nation and the nations are pitted against each other

Trying to conjure up the mythical idea that players are somehow self emplyed in this situation is asinine to say the least

If it was "you" deploying you wouldn't be bound to a nation

[lusty herald]

Ace Combat it, fuck it
Let's go, PMCs doing wargames

[arctic granite]

you know what would be really fun? a sim mode where there's no hit cam and the enemy tank doesn't explode into flames when all the crew die

[eternal zenith]

"Why he ain't moving? Crew dead? engine is still running but my MG fire doesn't cause a reaction"

[arctic granite]

"I don't see nobody moving..... I think we got em"

An actual simulator mode instead of "RB with a funny camera :)"

[eternal zenith]

"did that turret just turn? Oh god they raised the ba-"

[arctic granite]

having to keep your scope covers on until you go into combat or you risk having damaged scopes

😌

[eternal zenith]

everything you use commander view a guy pops out the hatch

[arctic granite]

realistic scopes and sights when

actual binos that aren't just a basic scope that's a little taller when

[eternal zenith]

Which tank has the periscope you can actually raise?

It's a Swedish one i think

[arctic granite]

There's a handful

[eternal zenith]

Leo2, right?

[arctic granite]

The PLSS

[eternal zenith]

fav sniping position?

[arctic granite]

or

https://i.imgur.com/fIOUCIs.png

[eternal zenith]

Just had a great time camping CD6

Get shot at

Panther thinking he save?

Retaliate against the SPAA

Bad day

Worse day

Double kill

also, it's annoying but after first penetration the shell goes invisible :/

[arctic granite]

yeah that's a favorite

[eternal zenith]

What about this one?

[arctic granite]

I usually go C1/B1 and grab the flankers

then overlook A or spawncamp

[eternal zenith]

good call

[keen sequoia]

Also god fury is such a good ww2 movie

[arctic granite]

what's so good about it

[arctic granite]

I'm at the point with maps that as soon as I see it I go to a certain spot and just do my thing

[keen sequoia]

Just an overall good movie, good characters, they also really show how PTSD actually is

along with them using Tiger 131 for the tiger battle which is just

[arctic granite]

it's an okay movie but it makes no sense whatso ever lol

[keen sequoia]

There was alot of historical inaccuracies

Such as the Tiger shooting the back of the convoy, not the front first

But overall

good movie

[arctic granite]

most tanks movies are garbage

but patton was 👌🏻

[keen sequoia]

Never heard of it

[arctic granite]

this mfer

next you'll tell me you've never seen Bridge over Remagen

[keen sequoia]

Haven't

I have however watched The Bridge on the River Kwai

[arctic granite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbvIjYl9SU4

easily my favorite WW2 movie

[keen sequoia]

How about Saving Private Ryan

[arctic granite]

Respectable movie

[keen sequoia]

That is easily the best WW2 movie I've seen

[arctic granite]

But I've seen it too many times

[keen sequoia]

Same

I watch it like every year or so when I get bored lmao

[arctic granite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYPu3YzF174

here's the whole ass movie

[keen sequoia]

Lmao

Tbh I wonder how much it costed the creators of Fury to get Tiger 131 on set

[arctic granite]

couple hundred thousand probably

most movies these days feel too ehavily processed and fake

Either missing the point or just blatantly lying

[keen sequoia]

Sadly can't find any sources for the price

Would have to be a hefty price though

[arctic granite]

I doubt it's public

[keen sequoia]

Especially for 131

[eternal zenith]

should I waste 60k on a crate 🤨

[arctic granite]

no

[keen sequoia]

Perhaps

[lusty herald]

I wasted 180k yesterday going "what's this?"
I don't even have rank IIIs yet so these wagers are useless
first crate was 25k lmao

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/13eeh7j/let_me_remind_you_that_wt_was_dubbed_as_genshin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Our team is preparing new locations for the upcoming War Thunder update. Meet the "Iberian Castle", new location for mixed battles!

"IBERIAN CASTLE"
*
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*

The new location “Iberian Castle” takes players to a tourist town on the eastern shores of the Balearic Sea. The main attraction of the town is the ruins of an ancient sea castle. Here, amongst the remains of castle walls and ruins of ancient buildings players will find the first zone of control over the location. The middle capture point is located right in the center of the town, in the labyrinth of crooked streets with arches and small squares. At the edge of the town, where the orchards begin, there is a third capture point surrounded by several buildings that can hide a small group of defending armored vehicles.

Link zum Post:
https://warthunder.com/en/news/8234/current/

[arctic granite]

wow they took the worst parts of Italy and Tunisia and put them together

I think I'd rather play white rock fortress

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/aasvBRF.png

what a fun and balanced game

[sleek fractal]

Leopard 1 is horribly undertiered

We all know that

Except Gaijin cause Germans suck

[arctic granite]

Well it's more so the Jumbo is horribly overtiered

It should be 5.7 not 6.3

[sleek fractal]

Thats also true

[arctic granite]

fun fact: changing the matchmaker spread from 1.0 to 0.7 would solve the majority of the balance problems

[sleek fractal]

Br decompression

Easy

[eternal zenith]

Muh 14BR Abrahms

https://tenor.com/zoKz.gif

^footage of eu lobbies after decompression

[arctic granite]

people think they should increase the overall BR when that doesn't help anything

[sleek fractal]

More accurate data mine

[eternal zenith]

spread gets affected either way, no?

[sleek fractal]

They do.

Cause a higher BR spread is better than making it tighter

Like how 11.7 helped 10.3 and 10.0

[arctic granite]

No because the spread is always 1.0 so as long as you're only effecting the top of the pyramid the base will remain the same

See: Maus fighting tandem and long darts

Or the M26 fighting the Object 120

Or the Panzer III fighting KV1Es

By changing the spread you're alleviating pressure along the entire axis instead of just making it so specific BRs have an easier time

Prototype Panthers shouldn't be fighting M4A2 75s

This change in spread would also make other game modes (specifically naval) significantly better

Another excellent example is the Ki-200 facing F-104s

Wouldn't happen with a 0.7 spread

[eternal zenith]

yeah but if you just scale up the entire range instead of just adding ranks on top it'll be the same?

so rank I goes from reserve to 2.3 or w/e instead of 1.7

[arctic granite]

Ranks only determine event eligibility and income.

[barren coral]

Dont get me started on F-104s man

Depressing plane to play

[arctic granite]

Poor design, poor in game implementation

but if you get a downtier you're basically invincible

Just watched L7 APDS shatter on like 20mm of armor

[sleek fractal]

That shit really can happen in real life too

[arctic granite]

on an A13 sitting at a 15 degree angle?

[sleek fractal]

Yes

Hell even a tungsten dart can shatter on a PKM

Its bullshit

But tbh Warthunder is a game and is nowhere near those 1 in a million RL hiccups

[arctic granite]

the whole "it's a game" cope to excuse it not working properly gets old quick

[sleek fractal]

Well this case is either, its realistic cause it shattered

Or it didnt work properly

Choose it yourself

[arctic granite]

You don't even know the circumstances of the hit and you're making false assumptions

It's not realistic, it's just wrong

[sleek fractal]

That was ment as its a game so its not working properly

[sleek fractal]

How do you know the exact circumstances without properly calculating all of it

[arctic granite]

Because I took the shot

[sleek fractal]

That should take some hours

Velocity,angles,vehicle speeds

[arctic granite]

At roughly 800m, an L7 shot from an upwards elevation hit an A 13 (the 1.3) at roughly 16 degrees to the right side of the hull

That wouldn't shatter.

What it would do is over penetrate

[sleek fractal]

Not necessarily

Cause you got a penetrator

[arctic granite]

Bro in what world would APDS not over penetrate a vehicle with only 20mm of armor

There's clear documented cases of 17pdr APDS over penetrating 40mm

[sleek fractal]

In what universe wont it shatter if it doesnt hit in a proper angle?

[arctic granite]

...it did hit a proper angle...

[barren coral]

Watching arguments about wt never gets old

[sleek fractal]

16 degrees does not sound proper to me

Like wtf

The penetrator wont properly hit,its the side of the shell and then it shatters

That way even HEATFS can bounce or shatter

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/vrts7ak.png
https://i.imgur.com/0QBwPew.png

"it would shatter bro trust me"

[barren coral]

He got gajjined

[sleek fractal]

Tilt the vejicle

Tilt*

Its kinda from below in your cam

[arctic granite]

It's a 14mm plate and the shell hits it at well enough of an angle to penetrate

[sleek fractal]

Also that hangar calculator is always wrong in garbage

Obviously not

[arctic granite]

Actually, it was only a 500m shot

A cannon ball would have gone through the thing lmao

[sleek fractal]

You hit the lower part of the upper plate with the lower side of the shell first

That takes a ton of energy from the shell

[arctic granite]

It's a 14mm plate.

[sleek fractal]

Which makes it shatter

[barren coral]

I used to get mad at that still kinda do but

tldr you got gajjined budster

[sleek fractal]

It doesnt matter

Angle

[arctic granite]

it absolutely does what the hell are you smoking

[sleek fractal]

In that way its 14mm but when it scrapes along the full plate cause of angle its like what? 200mm

[arctic granite]

Like even if the shell splits into five pieces it's going to go through the plate purely due to the amount of energy it's holding

[arctic granite]

200mm? You think a 14mm plate can extend to 200mm at a reasonable angle?

[sleek fractal]

Its just a game getting mad is wasted energy

[arctic granite]

At Best you get like 30

[sleek fractal]

How long is that plate in full lenght up?

I dont have the documents of the A13

[barren coral]

It aint the same when you know 1000% your shot should have penned but it didnt for some reason and then they shot you and you died

[keen sequoia]

[arctic granite]

You're making a mountain out of a molehill by trying to insinuate the game is somehow simulating something when in reality it's just dogshit hit registration and penetration mechanics.

[barren coral]

The problems with gajiggles is that it happens too much at top tier imo

[arctic granite]

The shell should have gone through purely based on physics alone

[sleek fractal]

Im just teasing you cause we both know its bullshit

[barren coral]

Hey at least it aint like hull break where a shell no matter what caliber would insta kill you if it barley hit you

[arctic granite]

That was the best version of hullbreak

[barren coral]

That wasnt man

[arctic granite]

It absolutely was

[sleek fractal]

Hullbreak was bullshit purely

[barren coral]

Hits to the track would hull break some tanks

[sleek fractal]

Hullbreaking an enemy with a 50 cal on optics

[arctic granite]

Good, most tanks don't survive the first hit and only vehicles effected were light vehicles that are too strong anyway

[barren coral]

The kill cam only showed the track being damaged

Nothing else

[arctic granite]

Yeah because the game doesn't simulate explosive power beyond the bare minimum

[barren coral]

Light tanks were just awful to play during that time

Over pressure is eh

[arctic granite]

A BMP wouldn't survive an HE hit to the drive sprocket in any reasonable manner

[barren coral]

Arty is actually useful

[arctic granite]

Light tanks aren't supposed to be easy to play

Arty is useless currently

[barren coral]

High explosive from a 1.0 vic

Shoots a bull dog

Hits track only nothing else

Insta kill due to hull break

[arctic granite]

Do you have any evidence of that happening

[barren coral]

It also wasnt consistent

Personal experience

[arctic granite]

you mean like every single other mechanic?

I'd rather HE work like it did IRL instead of being completely useless

[barren coral]

It happened to me i also knew a few guys who claimed the same

He is actually use full now imo

[arctic granite]

Posted as I shoot a milk truck with HE and it only makes the tire yellow

[barren coral]

Cause before you couldnt hull break a tiger 2

But now you can over pressure him

[arctic granite]

You're not supposed to be able to hullbreak a king tiger

it's a heavy tank

[barren coral]

Its consistent though

Not only light tanks can get overpressured

[arctic granite]

Overpressure is absolutely not consistent

[barren coral]

Every tank can get over pressureed if your gun is good enough

[arctic granite]

It works maybe 30% of the time

[barren coral]

It made me actually bring shit like HE again or HESH

See open top?

Load he if you dont have a good angle or if he survived the first shot

[arctic granite]

If anything you should be more against overpressure than hullbreak because all overpressure did was make it so people can get destroyed by off the wall shots

Like I've seen G6s and 2S3s take 2-3 HESH shells without dying

I would be better if they just removed the mechanic from the game

[barren coral]

Ive had the opposite experience