🛩war-thunder

[arctic granite]

most of those stats are completely made up

[fierce adder]

You Tell me this when i clearly Dodge sparrows and still die to the ones i dodge

Yet ir missiles that shouldve Hit me miss

[arctic granite]

infinite calculations ))))

apparently they're not the same model of MiG-29

@eternal zenith when can we go back to hullbreak

I want consistent gameplay not rtd he mechanics that never work

[fierce adder]

German one says 9-12A while the russian one says 9-13 i think

[arctic granite]

yep

[hardy epoch]

I aint understand 120 mm apds bruh

Feels like it does the same or less damage than any other 105

Mfw i realize i cursed myself by playing bri'an

[arctic granite]

Britain used to be fun but now it's just a waste of time

[fierce adder]

Britbong tt

[hardy epoch]

I mean i still have fun with em

Its just how badly implemented apds is that holds em back

[arctic granite]

It used to be much worse, but tbqh I don't see why the Chieftain Mk 3 and Mk 5 aren't both just 8.0

[sleek fractal]

Hullbreak was never consistent cause a single HE shrapnel was able to kill you even from a Machinegun

[arctic granite]

shoot hellcat, it dies

with this new system you might as well be using a RNG

[sleek fractal]

I loved to hullbreak everything with heat tbh

[arctic granite]

as it should be tbh

[sleek fractal]

But yeah both systems are trash :/

[sleek fractal]

One more one less

[arctic granite]

this just isn't fun

[fierce adder]

I Artillery nuked a Asu 57 with my Brummbär

[arctic granite]

at least with hullbreak my T32 wouldn't die to 152mm HE hitting it's thickest slab of armor

[fierce adder]

I overpressured a churchill hitting it in the side in its Front right Track with a SAP He or whatever they changed the KW II's ammo to

[arctic granite]

I shot a Tiger II in the side with the AVRE's HEP and only killed his machine gunner and loader

then later shot a Panther's drive sprocket to kill his entire crew

[fierce adder]

Truly a broken system

[arctic granite]

When you look at how the game functions there's almost no part of it that makes sense

The Jumbo 76 is 6.3 but the M51 is 6.0??

[hardy epoch]

I mean in reality hullbreak and overpressure seem just as inconsistent most times

The only consistent thing with overpressure is your assured destruction by any amount of HE landing near your tank

Think i just repeated what everyone said lmao

[arctic granite]

ngl the earliest hullbreak was extremely reliable

shoot X and it dies

[frigid carbon]

why is @trail briar not active 24/24 here

[arctic granite]

24/24?

[trail briar]

24 hours, 24 days a week

Duh

[trail briar]

Cuz I'm taking a break from war thunder

Cuz its pushing all the wrong buttons

[keen sequoia]

Gaijin respondddddddddddddd

[keen sequoia]

Cheeky murica match

[keen sequoia]

@sleek fractal So, you said I need to link a gaijin account with my steam to get the premium sale, right?

Yet in war thunder, clicking the "online store" button brings me to the gaijin store, and I have a "pay via steam" button, shown here

SO if a sale comes on via the gaijin store, and I click pay via steam, it'll still give me a discount, right?

without me having to link a gaijin acc ofc

[eternal zenith]

the air defense we all want

oh no, seems like i missed that jet by 50 meters, might as well detonate the 1kT nuclear warhead and wipe the entire airspace clean

[keen sequoia]

[sleek fractal]

I cant tell you

I only know that its 2 accounts

And theres problems with people not getting their stuff they bought

And over Steam its ALWAYS more expensive

Cause Steam takes its share

[keen sequoia]

How much more expensive?

[eternal zenith]

not quite

gaijin doesn't take regional buying power into account, steam does. You can get a good deal buying with turkish or argentinian account

[keen sequoia]

Well fuck

[sleek fractal]

That shit is why they raise those prices in those countries into obvlivion sometimes

And its tax fraud basicly

[eternal zenith]

true...

[keen sequoia]

Guess I just have to wait till Gaijin responds and tells me whats what]

[sleek fractal]

I mean you can do it,i would do it if i wouldnt be such a big earner

[eternal zenith]

tho you can file that tax individually if you're worried about legalities

[sleek fractal]

Yeah be on the safe side,hughe Sale next month anyway

[sleek fractal]

I rather not in germsny cause they will poke you to death if you do

And if you did one error you are ruined

[keen sequoia]

Yeah

[sleek fractal]

Or they see that you owe them money lul

[keen sequoia]

I just wish Gaijin would hurry up and respond already

[sleek fractal]

Yeah they changed the system how accounts work so many times

You can even convert console accs into a PC one

Its a clusterfuck just like Warthunders coding

[keen sequoia]

Like I mean

My thought is

I should be right if its allowing me to pay through steam with MY account

And it SHOULD give me a discount when the sale is on

and I SHOULD actually get my items considering I am paying through my steam account

[sleek fractal]

Worst case you dont get your stuff and gotta deal with support again

[keen sequoia]

True

They should respond by tomorrow

hopefully

And also

[sleek fractal]

I mean if they dont respond by tomorrow,just buy it

[keen sequoia]

Not for $99 lmfao

[sleek fractal]

[keen sequoia]

I'm waiting for that mf sale

[sleek fractal]

Upside down money

[keen sequoia]

Fr

[sleek fractal]

Its 66€

Cause australia

[keen sequoia]

also I found a way to bypass the steam tax

which isnt much anyway lmfao

but here

[sleek fractal]

Its like 3-5 € here

[keen sequoia]

steam directly

$102.50

BUT

[keen sequoia]

Visiting the store in game, and going pay via steam shows this

bada bing no tax

[sleek fractal]

Noice

[keen sequoia]

Can't wait to do some cool ass formation flying with all my mates lmao

We're all gonna get the mig-23

[sleek fractal]

Its cheaper than in Germany

[keen sequoia]

Ya

[sleek fractal]

Gaijin store its 60€

10€ steam tax

[keen sequoia]

Damn

bit much of a tax

But yeah, worst case is I have to deal with support

[eternal zenith]

pretty sure that's just part of the psychological conditioning. I remember when full games were $59 and indie releases were $29

[keen sequoia]

Which'll be fine if they respond quickly

[sleek fractal]

I still remember when PSX games were 100 DM

Which is 50€

[eternal zenith]

exactly

[sleek fractal]

I pay 60€ for a full price game

Thats why i only buy shit on sales now

If at all

[keen sequoia]

Fren :D

[eternal zenith]

unlikely friendship

like tom & jerry

[keen sequoia]

Ye

[eternal zenith]

wonderful, T-55 tanking 3 milan missiles thanks to magic reusable ERA

[plain umbra]

agony

[keen sequoia]

Damn

[plain umbra]

bro fuck the campania map

takes too long to actually get to the city, c point is god damn uphill, B has no cover and is hell and the streets are mega confusing and winding

[keen sequoia]

True

[arctic granite]

No.

Numerous games have a similar set up, if you want to get something on sale you have to wait for the steam product to go on sale.

[keen sequoia]

interesting

[arctic granite]

Unless the steam side of the sale gives you the discount, you are probably paying full price.

[keen sequoia]

hmmmmm

That somewhat confuses me though

as

the gaijin store has it currently for $99

the steam store has it for $102.50, but clicking on the gaijin store and going "Pay via steam" takes it back down to $99

[arctic granite]

What are you trying to buy anyway

[keen sequoia]

MIG-23ML

[arctic granite]

You realize there's a huge 50% off sale in 2 weeks right?

[keen sequoia]

Yes...

I do

I'm not saying I'm gonna buy the mig-23 now

But I'm just checking things out for when it does come on sale

[arctic granite]

Okay just making sure, almost everyone I tell that too says no

[keen sequoia]

Lmao

[arctic granite]

Just saying that I wouldn't recommend buying those packs but Instead buying talismans

Much cheaper

[keen sequoia]

Eh

Got no jets, and I want a jet

talisman would do nothing for me

[arctic granite]

The aircraft you're buying has a talisman, it's just exponentially more expensive

Where are you at with Russian aircraft anyway

[keen sequoia]

Reserve planes, hence why I want a premium jet so I can grind the russian air tree

[arctic granite]

Realistically you don't need a talisman until tier IV

[keen sequoia]

Ok

[arctic granite]

Run the Yak-7 until the La-5 and then body people with that Yak-9U till the MiG-9/L

[plain umbra]

just spaned in, killed by plane in 13 seconds

:)

[keen sequoia]

I'd just rather buy the mig

simple as that

[arctic granite]

It's your money, waste it how you want

[keen sequoia]

I will

[arctic granite]

?

[eternal zenith]

Join the SPAA crusade

death to flies

[plain umbra]

i was an spaa

the other 3 around me when i spawned in drew aggro to the plane

[eternal zenith]

you gotta triangle formation

3 point coordinated fire

[plain umbra]

I just spawned in

my back was to the plane

Literally didn't have a chance

[eternal zenith]

maybe best strat here is not moving, maxing out the invinc time

survive 1, maybe 2 dive attacks

[arctic granite]

Are you enjoying being erased by aircraft

[eternal zenith]

https://youtu.be/Nay5IbNJyGs?t=144

I'm aiming to achieve similar to this

looks very pretty

[plain umbra]

i barely get any points because every tank is faster than the japanese ones at my tier

and getting to the point at 20kph takes so long theres already a tank destroyer just waiting for me

so much pain

[arctic granite]

Are ya winning son

[plain umbra]

no i had a bad time and i'm getting off until tomorrow because the game upset me

[keen sequoia]

Go marder 3 top tier

will refresh you

lmao

[plain umbra]

i don't know what those words mean i am pathetic and weak and small

[keen sequoia]

Want me to bring you up into a high tier game?

[plain umbra]

i would die even faster

[arctic granite]

at least you arent fighting atgms at lower tiers

Post your lineup

oh my GOD i just LOVE getting one shotted across the map by someone hiding under a hill!

atgms are just the best thing ever made

Gotta use the onion buddy

[eternal zenith]

no armour means almost no spalling

[arctic granite]

Pretty sure most 120 shells are bigger than most Japanese tanks

[eternal zenith]

[keen sequoia]

See but if you get a kill you get 20k

[arctic granite]

Isn't it 30k

[keen sequoia]

nopw

[arctic granite]

apfsdsdsd cannot kill marder

Pz2H is the silly one to bring into high tier doe

Did they really nerf the reward

[eternal zenith]

just like using the eraser tool

[arctic granite]

The Na-To is kinda cracked

Until anything looks at it

[eternal zenith]

typical nato tank

[keen sequoia]

yes

20k

[arctic granite]

Good

Deserved nerf

[eternal zenith]

no, they can't just raise repair costs overall and then reduce SL gain

[plain umbra]

20k research or money?

[eternal zenith]

money

[keen sequoia]

money

[keen sequoia]

why

[arctic granite]

Silver lions

[plain umbra]

me no care about money

[eternal zenith]

yet

[plain umbra]

me only want knowledge

[eternal zenith]

once you reach tier IV every tank is like 200k

[arctic granite]

Too easy to do, often wasting slots on a team just for personal gain

[plain umbra]

just got 70k lions from a random crate i'm cruisin

[keen sequoia]

Not for long

[arctic granite]

They should have implemented that 2.0 br limit for bringing extra vehicles

[eternal zenith]

funny US heli: 1.3million with crew cost stock

[arctic granite]

Helis are a huge waste of time and resources

[keen sequoia]

Nah

[arctic granite]

Yes absolutely, it would make games much more fluid and enjoyable

[eternal zenith]

on a team
as if spawning every single vehicle is beneficial for the team

[keen sequoia]

hahhaha

No

[arctic granite]

Instead of seeing dead weight every game people would be forced to contribute

[eternal zenith]

do you really manage to use every vehicle in your normal round?

[arctic granite]

I usually don't spawn more than once unless the situation calls for it

[keen sequoia]

Exactly

[eternal zenith]

Yesterday had a 8.3br game, took out 3 mbts with a marder III

[arctic granite]

So no reason to bring 2.0s to 8.0

[eternal zenith]

low profile

heat sig very small when engine turned off

[keen sequoia]

Bringing marders in is fun

besides

[eternal zenith]

the best thing about low br is the lack of a proper IR silhouette

[keen sequoia]

I'd rather have a marder 3 that does something other then a dude who spawns in an abrams, gets fucked and then leaves

[eternal zenith]

Also, sometimes I just don't want to give the other team the satisfaction of winning "a fair fight"

[keen sequoia]

Neither

[eternal zenith]

Like when you're outskilled or outclassed, no sense bringing your highest ranked machine only to get one tapped

[sleek fractal]

Getting no SL except for 1 time god mode,getting no RP,getting no spawn points.

Getting shred by the first .50 or 20mm

[sleek fractal]

Then i just leave when i know its a lost cause and play another Match

Also enemy gets good rewards from killing you in your low br playtoy while you get,as i wrote,nothing

Gaijin should have removed god mode a long time ago

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8210/current/

[arctic granite]

You have to understand that feeding the enemy is a bigger problem than a guy who had bad luck

The fact they nerfed the reward means we'll see less of it thankfully

Although it shouldn't have existed in the first place

The fact people have used it to grind sl in the first place is telling in it's self

Fact: I've lost more games to idiots dying incessantly and draining tickets than I have to not having 1-2 extra players

Most people don't realize a life is 100 tickets

[eternal zenith]

since when do you get full rewards for killing lower ranked players?

Doesn't it taper off after a 2BR difference?

[arctic granite]

Not that I'm aware of

[keen sequoia]

it does

[arctic granite]

But if it does then that's further proof that a 2.0 limit should be in place

[eternal zenith]

but I agree, the dying needlessly is an issue. But then they shouldn't put penalties into place for leaving early

[arctic granite]

The rewards in this game are already total dogshit why rob players of it anymore

[arctic granite]

Just have 8 line ups like me

[eternal zenith]

what and reselect tanks every time?

I mean leaving early locks your unused crew

[arctic granite]

Honestly I usually don't bring more than 1-3 vehicles so when I get shit maps I can switch in 1-3 other vehicles

[arctic granite]

Not if you use the task manager

[eternal zenith]

you mean kill the game if a map / match is shitty and reboot?

[arctic granite]

Yeah

10 seconds

[eternal zenith]

won't you get asked if you wana rejoin battle or is that just if you have an active life?

[arctic granite]

You can just press no

😏

[eternal zenith]

but then it locks your crew still, no?

I'll try.

[arctic granite]

If the map fully loads, yes

[eternal zenith]

aah

so you kill it before it even loads

[arctic granite]

Yeah

[eternal zenith]

that's actually pretty smart.

[arctic granite]

Game sees that as failure to connect

No more fire arc

[keen sequoia]

Question @eternal zenith

[eternal zenith]

I have my game running in a VM, I'll try freezing the session on connect, see if it loads after resuming

[keen sequoia]

Wanna commit some tomfoolery?

[arctic granite]

For what purpose

[eternal zenith]

simulate failure to connect without having to restart

[arctic granite]

But why vm

[eternal zenith]

I don't like windows

[arctic granite]

Respect

But doesn't the game run Linux native

[eternal zenith]

I got a hypervisor running the session so it don't matter, my steam installation is windows. Most of the games work on it

[arctic granite]

I'm just curious

[keen sequoia]

[sleek fractal]

Modifiers,he gets more than you do.

I said "good" not full

[keen sequoia]

[keen sequoia]

Imagine being on a battlefield with your multi million dollar MBT, and a fucking dive bomber from ww2 manages to fly past jets with heat seeking missiles, and your entire group of AA with radars and heat seeking missiles, along with cannons that go FUCK YOU to anything you fire at, just to bomb you

[sleek fractal]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8211/current/

[arctic granite]

When are they bringing back specials worth participating in

Also how is ranked so far

[keen sequoia]

BY THE GRACE OF ALLAH THEY REPLIED

[arctic granite]

told you it would be today6

but did they solve your problem

[keen sequoia]

Not yet

Just responded asking for some info first ofc

[arctic granite]

you might get it solved within a couple of days

usually it takes a while for them to respond

[keen sequoia]

Hopefully

[arctic granite]

I haven't had to contact support in at least a few years

so I can't give you any expectations

now it is time to decide what to play in war thunder...

[keen sequoia]

5.7 GER

[arctic granite]

yeah I don't have anything to get or do at that br

[keen sequoia]

POV: You're an unsuspecting KV-85 about to get hit with an 88mm shell fired from my Tiger E

[arctic granite]

I am

BEGGING

for help

https://i.imgur.com/SDVReqY.png

https://i.imgur.com/RFQ52nF.jpeg

blue players are worthless

wow I only got 10k rp for that

[fierce adder]

Well time to unlock R27R1's

[keen sequoia]

Enough for a nuke

but no nuke

[eternal zenith]

scam

[keen sequoia]

Proper scam

[sleek fractal]

72k and im done with the Tree again

and then 228k before next patch xD

[arctic granite]

where is your SL at bro...

[sleek fractal]

Spend.

Why should i stack up endless amount of SL? For lootboxes ?

i earn SL whatever i do so why not spend it

Yeah waiting for the 50% off is smarter but i do not care xD

[arctic granite]

but then you're not in any position to take advantage of sales ever

[sleek fractal]

Yes i do

I only buy shiz on Christmas sale

i stack up SL between Summer and Christmas

[arctic granite]

uhhh

[fierce adder]

Hes still richer than i am ingame

[arctic granite]

it's spring

where are your stacks if you're saving it up

[sleek fractal]

Its spring ?

[arctic granite]

.

[sleek fractal]

1. June is start of summer

[keen sequoia]

I think bro forgot that different countries have seasons at different times

[fierce adder]

Bro i only ever SL Grind when i need it

[arctic granite]

Spring is between Summer and Christmas just like Fall is

https://i.imgur.com/q9xMuBJ.png

[fierce adder]

currently i dont tho ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[arctic granite]

You gotta have mad stacks

[sleek fractal]

What for ?

[arctic granite]

Expert crews, repair costs, buying new vehicles and mods

Expert crews are 1 mil a pop

[sleek fractal]

Thats why i dont need stacks.

I already spend it

Stacks gone

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/FefrSJX.png

[sleek fractal]

Replenish from 1. June to 24. December

[arctic granite]

where are your experts...

[sleek fractal]

On the Vehicles i need for Squadron Battles

You care to much about random battles it seems

im a competetive player.

[arctic granite]

Random battles is where 95% of the playerbase is

[sleek fractal]

and 90% of the idiots

[arctic granite]

Oh don't even try to claim there aren't hordes of idiots in SQB

okay genuine question

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but not in my team

[arctic granite]

why is the Gepard your most played ground vehicle

[sleek fractal]

Good question

Next one

If i would know,i would tell you

[arctic granite]

So you're a competitive player huh

[sleek fractal]

Yep.

[arctic granite]

In what regard

[sleek fractal]

Being rather interested in Squadron Battles than Randoms

/ Ranked now

[arctic granite]

So you're a squadrons battle player

[sleek fractal]

Basicly

Even recruiter for our squadron

[arctic granite]

I'd consider the tournaments to be more "competitive"

SQB is just TvT

[sleek fractal]

Which is ranked now,

[arctic granite]

Have you played ranked yet

[sleek fractal]

Do you know all the good Tournament players ?

[arctic granite]

I know a handful

but this game isn't built well enough to be a good comp game

[sleek fractal]

Yeah im not even close as good as them xD

[arctic granite]

Yeah I noticed

I'm not even trying to clown on you, but I don't consider myself a competitive player

[fierce adder]

Nice ign ill bomb your Mail with a friendrequest now

[sleek fractal]

Nah not taking as clowning

My stats are garbage

but if you look at my winrate thats what i focus on

Winning

And that works pretty well

[arctic granite]

I don't even consider winning and I somehow have a higher winrate

[sleek fractal]

Thats why i can tell that paying into Warthunder is not worth it cause thats what i did the last 8 years

[arctic granite]

in my honest opinion, the game has way too many irregularities and issues to be a "competitive" game like CS or even Starcraft

[sleek fractal]

Yeah not like that

ofc not like that

i would like a world map like in WoT

[arctic granite]

holy shit

I'm purple in sim now

[sleek fractal]

Time for the first and last Yak3 match before the time ends lol

[arctic granite]

I sleep

What are the requirements for joining your squad

[sleek fractal]

Being German,at least 50% winrate (we got to many complaints about people not knowing what left or right is), decent K/D which is not negative,time for SQB or other Squadron activities if Gaijin ever makes one worthwhile.

[arctic granite]

So any other nationality is just straight up not considered?

[sleek fractal]

Yep cause we are German,we organise tons of shit like events too

Battle Buddys,Play4Peace,Esports Ready

thats all our shit

[arctic granite]

neat

[arctic granite]

so these are twitchdrops and stuff you got for being in the squad?

[sleek fractal]

Mostly Drops or participant in the events

I got the Noaim Decal cause im in the Squad and only people at that time being in the Squad got it

[arctic granite]

yeah I was able to deduce that much

[sleek fractal]

I get perks like knowledge about upcoming stuff

but thats all i can say.

[arctic granite]

yeah I bet that's really interesting

[sleek fractal]

It is and its not

especialy when they tease some cool stuff and scrap it shortly before its to arrive

[arctic granite]

Any examples?

[sleek fractal]

Esports Camo Crates

They werent supposed to be Esport crates.

They were supposed to be CC crates with Skins the CC´s could choose

[arctic granite]

I have never cared about ahistorical camos

[sleek fractal]

I write down the name Luftwaffel down again xD

hes a german CC

[arctic granite]

Love me olive drab

[sleek fractal]

I would love a Waffel camo

but yeah maybe some day

[arctic granite]

I want cuckoo

and better game mechanics

[sleek fractal]

WE all want better game mechanics xD

Lets not want to much or they rework something and break it again

[arctic granite]

it's kinda appalling how often they break the game considering the only work Gaijin does is code

[sleek fractal]

Spaghettie Code

btw Play4Peace was supposed to have tripple smoke as drop

Gaijin decided an hour before the event to remove that drop

[arctic granite]

love my tricolor smoke

❤️

[sleek fractal]

i love it too xD

He thought i stole his kill lol

That was the assist i got cause i hit the guy with my gun before his Missile hit

[eternal zenith]

What would you say is the fastest you can possibly do 3.7 to jet?

no premiums

2 weeks?

nvmd

[sleek fractal]

If you play 3 hours a day without premium it depends on the tree

With premium 2 weeks in any tree is possible

[eternal zenith]

I forgot I unlocked all the squadron planes by now. Just gotta grind SL to crew

[sleek fractal]

lel nice

[eternal zenith]

What do I do after all green is spent?

I still have to unlock the new T80 but after that I think I'm done

like you can't boost squadmates or something, right?

[sleek fractal]

nope

you were even able to store points

but they removed it

[eternal zenith]

[arctic granite]

No premiums? No premium time?

Absolute fastest for me would probably be 5 days depending on the tree structure

[sleek fractal]

oh btw

i wasted 2 Mil SL on lootboxes xD

I did the worst thing ever

[arctic granite]

sorry to hear that

[sleek fractal]

All i need to do is play more now.

[eternal zenith]

any tips on max efficiency progression?

Might start a new account just to try that

[sleek fractal]

Just get premium time and play the vehicle in front of the one your researching

Spading vehicles is the best way to progress

[arctic granite]

what are you trying to do exactly

[sleek fractal]

Thats the most important part

[eternal zenith]

just progress with max efficiency

[arctic granite]

play what's meta with a talisman and maximize battle time

[eternal zenith]

how you guys figure out meta?

[arctic granite]

Is it raping teams and carrying games? that's what's meta

[eternal zenith]

I neglected planes for too long

[arctic granite]

oh are you trying to grind planes

[eternal zenith]

ye

is there a way to turn g-coins into GE still?

[arctic granite]

yes

[eternal zenith]

how?

oh

[arctic granite]

you should get a good fighter/ground attacker for grinding aircraft

[eternal zenith]

G to GE is only possible with crates / keys, right?

I can't find a direct conversion

[arctic granite]

pretty sure you can just buy it from the store?

[eternal zenith]

ooooh

kill me now

[arctic granite]

owned

[keen sequoia]

F

[eternal zenith]

so what't the marketplace meta, when should I sell voucers I have

[arctic granite]

when they are very high priced and there are not a lot of them

this will take years

[sleek fractal]

i wish i had an IS7 coupon left and bought some when they were at 40€

/40 GJN

[arctic granite]

I don't think the IS-7 ever went below 100

yeah the cheapest it ever got was 120

[sleek fractal]

i bought one for 50€ back at the Event

It was as cheap as 40 GJn

then it only went upwards

[arctic granite]

do you have any evidence?

[sleek fractal]

If its in my buy list

Then yes

If not,i never payed 120€ for an Is7 xD

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/jL9k0ll.png

This is the cheapest it ever was according to the market history

[sleek fractal]

i love how gaijin does not let you look into purchases on the market

it doesnt even show me for how much i bought the KV-220 last year xD

[arctic granite]

god what a shit website and company

steam details every transaction I've ever made

[sleek fractal]

Yep

You can see all Store purchases though

even Codes u used

but hell nah they wont show me anything from the market

like

all there is

and i definetly sold more than that recently

[sleek fractal]

I think i know why that is branded into my brain

cause you could buy all the Materials for 50€ in the end

Might be that

Yet still why cant i find any of my shitty market shenanigans

[eternal zenith]

Ok. I think I figured out a good strat. Use registration key to get preem & vehicles, farm for 3 days, sell the account. buy more premium

[sleek fractal]

You know whats funny,you dont even own your account.

If you read all the shit,you only get the licence to use all the shit,even the stuff you payed for.

Gaijin simply can say fuck you and ban you for no reason

[eternal zenith]

one reason I think this strat is especially hilarious

also astrology drip

[sleek fractal]

Phoenix missiles getting a fat buff

[eternal zenith]

+200m/s

[sleek fractal]

Choppers and Pantsir fat L nerf

[eternal zenith]

wat

[sleek fractal]

Higher spawn costs

[arctic granite]

based

if it involves choppers getting bodied and air superiority getting a buff I'm all for it

[lusty herald]

New BP revealed, worth grabbing as a low tier or just buying premium time?
It has 10 days on the premium track, and I haven't touched Warbonds yet
Confused about prem vehicles too if RP efficiency lines exist 🤔

[eternal zenith]

Interesting, just changing country code during login allows you to get 14 vehicles from scratch

[sleek fractal]

imho not worth it with the vehicles that are in it right now.

But if you are new and really want Premium Vehicles for cheap AND have the durability to play to lvl 75 in the BP, i guess its worth getting the BP

[lusty herald]

Well you can apparently get BPs for BPs if you play enough, has the track record of rewards in BPs been worth caring about that?
I'm trying to figure the value of GE since it's not equal depending on what you spend it on e.g. global RP, jesus christ

[sleek fractal]

You can get the next BP with the current BP ... yeah but you need to play to lvl 125

[eternal zenith]

I don't think I ever managed to get it to 125

definitely needs more than 90% activity

[sleek fractal]

its doable,i know a Cop that did it.

[eternal zenith]

well you know what they say

[sleek fractal]

But that requires skill,time and that you dont get burned out

[lusty herald]

Yeah I've got an old account but I'm highest at 3.0 british tanks because I didn't like how unclear it was what I was doing/fighting higher BR vehicles/RB strategy etc.
But I got a vibe going on with casually playing AB like it's a fishing game, but with more aerial flips. Aiming for 4.0s to taste test each nation.

Sounds of it I'll be acing some tank in a region of BR I'm slow to a grind on and then plop a talisman on the ol' reliable of the bunch.

[arctic granite]

Not worth it

also I wouldn't recommend playing the game if you're trying to get back into it

[lusty herald]

Bit odd to say since I just had a great tank game, had scored 3000rp out of it, though I did face tank quite a bit I was skeptical about now I think about it

[arctic granite]

Only 3,000?

[lusty herald]

It's a 3.0 with only a few upgrades, ehh
Forgetting the names of them already, Churchill

[arctic granite]

Yeah you will probably have fun till about 6.0~ and then you'll see how horrible the grind is

Also I would HEAVILY suggest playing something other than britain

they're terrible

[lusty herald]

Well yeah I heard about Low Tier Best Tier, hence 4.0 goal
In fact RussianBadger was a good reason to go back in, the other being the new soundtrack I sadly will only experience on youtube 🤷‍♂️

[arctic granite]

the new soundtrack is pretty subpar

bring back the classical music

[eternal zenith]

ready for 6.0

OR

https://tenor.com/bRXLd.gif

[arctic granite]

we're going back

[plain umbra]

i have een trapped like this for for 8+ minutes with no help

[eternal zenith]

🇯

[keen sequoia]

🇯

[plain umbra]

i never gave up and we won

kill 2 planes, get bombed, get flipped, win

wait i just got 3 kills and didn't die i'm a god at this game

[eternal zenith]

[keen sequoia]

Based

I still can't believe last night @eternal zenith

Fucken scammed hard

[eternal zenith]

[keen sequoia]

Might go marder 3 at top tier again later

[eternal zenith]

german tanks have a secret pet compartment

ignore the cake in the beer storage

[keen sequoia]

Lmfao

[sleek fractal]

Do not abuse the toillet paper storage for pets

[eternal zenith]

how do backups affect price? will using a backup after death count as a full repair?

[arctic granite]

what a great question, surely this is documented somewhere

[keen sequoia]

Don't think so

I've used backups on tiger 2s before and died both times but still only gave me the repair cost of one at the end of the battle

but

idk

[eternal zenith]

is it written right on something?

[keen sequoia]

@eternal zenith

[arctic granite]

no

[eternal zenith]

[arctic granite]

that's the joke

[eternal zenith]

I can never tell

[arctic granite]

There's so much about the game that isn't documented

[keen sequoia]

Right, @eternal zenith Wanna help me grind considering I've got one day of prem?

[lusty herald]

are those immediately redeemed?
man middle of the work week getting one would be lame

[arctic granite]

Yes

[eternal zenith]

10.0?

[keen sequoia]

Hell nah

7.3

[eternal zenith]

alr

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/ejcJlYh.png

yes

[keen sequoia]

Gotta get that mf RP up

[keen sequoia]

correct

[eternal zenith]

exactly

[arctic granite]

hop on 10.0

[trail briar]

poggies

[sleek fractal]

Yeah ok the BP Centurion is worth it

6.3 with Sabot and fully stabilised

The Sabot even has a decent spalling effect

[eternal zenith]

oh no

[arctic granite]

It's 17 pdr APDS

On a slow chassis with minimal armor

[sleek fractal]

yet its on 6.3

Yeeting easily TIger 2´s

[arctic granite]

Yeah the Mk 3 was 6.3 and it was good

but 17 pdrs already struggle at 6.0

It's not going to be that good

Tiger IIs can just one tap you back since they've been doing it since 2015

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but you can test drive it and see the spalling on the Jagdtiger

You just lolpen it and kill it xD

[arctic granite]

Unless it's APCBC tier spalling it's not going to be any more than a undercut Mk 3

[sleek fractal]

Im not getting it,hell nah i have all the 7.3 ones and even the swedisch one

But still its a good 6.3 addition

[arctic granite]

Realistically it should have been in the TT

[sleek fractal]

Yes hard to play probably,but fully stabilised

[sleek fractal]

Like every French event Vehicle ^^

or the last BP French

every EBR

[arctic granite]

wow it has horrible optics

If it was 6.0 it might be worth it, but at most angles and distances it's having trouble with the heavier German vehicles

The test drive doesn't let you test against the IS-6 or IS-3

[sleek fractal]

I still hate that they dont let you

[arctic granite]

There's also the fact that because this is APDS it's only a 40mm penetrator

This is a good vehicle if you get downtiered and like making Germans cry but at it's own BR it'll struggle and be medicore at best

I wouldn't recommend paying for it

[sleek fractal]

When you play to 75 and feel the need to buy the BP,then its nice

but tbh,as you write,no need to actively play for it

Also its a nice cheap premium for new players

[arctic granite]

Yeah but typically the reason you get a premium is to research a tree

and the British tree is a dead end

😂

[sleek fractal]

Nah Ground Premiums are for SL farming,at least in my case

Cause theres no use to buy a premium if you aint got a lineup

and i rather put a Talisman on a Vehicle i actualy like

[arctic granite]

The most effective way to grind is one premium/talisman'd vehicle with no lineup

if you die go to the next game rinse and repeat

[sleek fractal]

lel nah

not if you want to make it worth your time.

[arctic granite]

I've grinded 20+ accounts and over 300 million RP, there's no reason to respawn since it decreases your overall income

The extra 2-3 rp you get for staying isn't worth the 5-7 you'll get just going to the next game

[sleek fractal]

i never seen a one death leaver getting 5-7k RP

[arctic granite]

you don't even have to do good to get rp

just rush in, do your thing and go to the next game

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but you did some shit

[arctic granite]

1 kill and 1 cap

That's nothing

[sleek fractal]

4 spots

1 assist

[arctic granite]

Which equates to virtually nothing income wise

[sleek fractal]

I mean you do prove the point

But you did at least DO something

[arctic granite]

killing more people does not give you more income

[sleek fractal]

lel 1,50 playtime of a 10 minute match

IS a talisman on the VRCC ?

[arctic granite]

It's a premium vehicle...

[sleek fractal]

Ok,i dont know italian vehicles thats why i ask

Never knew it was that effective

Probably since i never tried.

[arctic granite]

riddle me this

how is 4 kills, and more assists/spots less activity than 1 kill, 1 cap and less assists/spots

[sleek fractal]

Also the reason why im always telling people not to do it

[sleek fractal]

🤷‍♂️

also my food just arrived

Gaijin logic

Makes me more wanting to tell people not to one death leave to ruin others games.

[arctic granite]

Yeah I see why you would want to say that

but I have no reason to lie to people about the most effective way to grind

It's insane how good the WZ305 is with proximity fuses

[eternal zenith]

Is it known how SL rewards are calculated? Nice score btw. love the VRCC

[arctic granite]

SL is calculated by what you do and bonuses you achieve

I think the best I managed in one game with the VRCC was only 20k

and that was jumping through 700 hoops while balancing fine china type games

[sleek fractal]

activity time

16 seconds

[arctic granite]

If tanks were as easy to grind as planes I don't think anyone would have an issue with it

[sleek fractal]

Yep

Thats what im saying for years

if i landed that mission it would be easily like 25k RP

[eternal zenith]

how

did you just spawn in, drop the air to air and end?

[sleek fractal]

nah i was alive the full match

I just wasnt long in enemy vicinity

those 3 Kills were 2 missile and 1 Gun kill

All Players

[eternal zenith]

fucking slav jank data points

esoteric bullshit

[sleek fractal]

he has a friend now

[eternal zenith]

man who came up with the play4peace slogan 🥶

[sleek fractal]

My Squadron Leader

Cause every donated Cent from the Event was going towards War Veterans and the care of Graves of the fallen

[sleek fractal]

Did you know what i noticed

You were in the Matches nearly full time

[arctic granite]

yep

[sleek fractal]

Yeah .... one death leavers mostly leave after 2 minutes

[arctic granite]

Not always

I know a lot of people who die once after 5-10 minutes then leave

which is the optimal strat

[sleek fractal]

Thats the term,they die and leave.Thats the complaint.

People that instantly leave

5-10 minutes is totaly ok

thats a long playtime

[arctic granite]

You can still contribute before you die once

but the optimal way to grind is one vehicle with a talisman, no line up

do your thing and leave

[sleek fractal]

Yeah but you still need some time in the match for relative good rewards

[arctic granite]

but you don't have to respawn

[sleek fractal]

Thats not the complaint though

[arctic granite]

The entire discussion stems from the fact that one vehicle no line up is the most optimal way to grind

[sleek fractal]

The complaint is throwing yourself away after a minute and then leaving.Tons of Idiots do that.

if you can survive some time.

Driving around the map wont get you anything.

[arctic granite]

I don't think we're on the save wavelength when it comes to the term optimal

[sleek fractal]

yep

were not on the same topic even

Cause you describe the best way to grind

i describe an issue with the playerbase,that gets a premium,dies and leaves after 30 seconds of the game.

[arctic granite]

People who are dead weight that leave after their first death are much better than the people who just feed the enemy kills tho

[arctic granite]

That's why I don't recommend people spend 90 AUS on a MiG-23.

[sleek fractal]

Not entireley cause its worse to play 1 vs 10 than 1 vs 10 with tons of bait

[arctic granite]

Yes entirely because you can more often carry the game if you have the tickets in comparison to the game ending early because your side wasted it's lives

[sleek fractal]

its 1 vs 29 anyways

except if you play with squad mates

[lusty herald]

Hmm I was looking at this talk sideways then realised oh I'm in AB queues, you guys are talking RB. The design choice of "you can use your lineup as a killstreak" is uhhh

[arctic granite]

very poor

[arctic granite]

the 9.3 chinese wagen is pretty good

[keen sequoia]

[keen sequoia]

When the fuck will gaijin respond again

I want this fucking shit set up

[arctic granite]

1-2 business days

[keen sequoia]

Its been 1-2 fucking business days since i last replied to their question

[eternal zenith]

How did you achieve that? Wager, Booster?

[keen sequoia]

the 1 day premium time i got last night

Cleaned up in a match today

[keen sequoia]

Still no fucking response

I'm slowly going insane

Speak of the devil they just responded

[sleek fractal]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/130ap6l/jas39c_confirmed_forum_link_in_comments/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[worldly pilot]

time to wait until may sales and buying the draken with some gjn XD

[arctic granite]

jets are cool and all but when are we getting the B-32

[keen sequoia]

@eternal zenith

[keen sequoia]

[keen sequoia]

Cheeky little grind with the premium time

Close to getting this too

Then I'll get the T-80

[eternal zenith]

[keen sequoia]

indeed

[arctic granite]

you know those "random chance" battle trophies are decided before you even open them right

It just puts big rewards next to what you get so you think you almost got something good

[keen sequoia]

Stop ruining the excitement I get when opening these you fucker

[arctic granite]

you get the notification for what you receive sometimes on the loading screen before it even starts the spin the wheel

[keen sequoia]

Stop ruining the fun

you fucker

[arctic granite]

I am just giving you basic information that is readily available

Also apparently the ZLT11 is pretty fun

might try him again today

[eternal zenith]

those loots box animation are so scummy

[arctic granite]

But what I want to know is my the mods on my 9.3 MBT are only half the RP required as the mods on my funky 8x8 sinowagen

[eternal zenith]

literally triggering monkey brain even after showing you what you get

[arctic granite]

👆

It's preying on you

never 5get

@eternal zenith do you wanna play this game

[eternal zenith]

yeah, I think so. Wana squad up?

[arctic granite]

yeah yeah

how long are you going to be around

[eternal zenith]

not sure, I might need to get some food before I start tho.

[arctic granite]

I want to workout before I game so no rush

[eternal zenith]

dm?

[arctic granite]

yeah, I have to pick an account too

I should be ready to play in an hour

[fierce adder]

The true war thunder experience

[south sand]

This is pure gold

[worldly pilot]

You can even spam escape and it will warp to the point of where you get the prize

[arctic granite]

that's what I usually do

I don't really care about the next 1,000 backups or wagers

and 75,000 lions is nothing to me

[trail briar]

legend

[eternal zenith]

It's my favourite movie starring Edward Norton and Helene Carter

[eternal zenith]

I had a antihistamine fueled nightmare of a round of ground RB but if your tank was shot you could disembark if crew was still alive and start fighting as infantry, including anti tank weaponry

one thing I remeber is getting out of a marder III as it was targeted by a sherman that came around the corner and flanking it on foot shooting a panzerfaust at it from like 10 meters away

woke up, loaded the game and realized it was just a nightmare. It's not enlisted yet 😌

[keen sequoia]

That'd be fun april fools though

like the robot soldier one

the mech suit thing

just fucking disembark your tank

Also wasn't there an event with actual AI infantry?

[eternal zenith]

yeah, would be interesting. Or be able to deploy anti tank ai infantry

[keen sequoia]

I've seen pictures of it but can't actually find it

[eternal zenith]

There was infantry anti tank crews in the sturmtiger event

just a fixed anti tank gun

[keen sequoia]

hmm

This

I've never been able to actually find an event or anything with em

but i've seen multiple pictures

[eternal zenith]

this might be from some guy who modded the game

wait

I remember some infantry on the castle map

the one with the d point

Like it's not available anymore now but I think it was the carthapians map that had it

a tank column would spawn and be followed by foot soldiers

[sleek fractal]

That was years ago

Theres still infantry on same Maps as remnants

Only test maps though

And there was an PvE historical fight event that also had infantry some years ago

Guess they scrapped it

[eternal zenith]

it was rather silly

imagine gore mechanics

instantly rated m for mature

[sleek fractal]

Theres tons of custom maps with infantry you can download

[keen sequoia]

[keen sequoia]

@sleek fractal Guess what

Gaijin said yesterday that there's already a Gaijin account with the email I tried to link, so my steam and gaijin might already be linked and I just forgot that i made an account

[sleek fractal]

Lel

Good news though

[keen sequoia]

@eternal zenith

Top gun moment

[eternal zenith]

F-14?

[keen sequoia]

Yes

User model and mission because I'm still at 1.0 on US air lmfao

[eternal zenith]

I was just about to ask how you test fly it

[keen sequoia]

Lmfao

I can link you the model and mission if you want

[eternal zenith]

I can test fly the F-14 already dw

[keen sequoia]

ah

wait how

You up there on the US air tree?

[sleek fractal]

Let us meet May with a large-scale sale that each commander can use to easily fill the hangar with new vehicles and purchase many other valuable items. Time to spend your Golden Eagles wisely!

April 28th (11:00 GMT) — May 5th (11:00 GMT)

DISCOUNTS ON VEHICLES

• 30% off vehicles of all countries for Golden Eagles and Silver Lions. There will be no division by country: the discount is valid for all vehicles during the entire sale.
• Discounts are not applied to purchasing and upgrading squadron vehicles, as well as vehicles from Battle Pass, Repair Factory event, and the Sky Guardians and Apex Predators updates.

DISCOUNTS ON UPGRADES

• 30% off modifications
• 30% off talismans
• 30% off backup vehicles

PREMIUM ACCOUNT DISCOUNTS

• 50% off Premium Account for 90 and 365 d...

Link zum Post:
https://warthunder.com/en/news/8216/current/

[eternal zenith]

main account I unlocked F-4J, no F-16 tho

what's going on today

[keen sequoia]

fuck its out

[eternal zenith]

That's a lot of discounts

oh

[keen sequoia]

Do I just buy the mig23 now?

[eternal zenith]

lol

[keen sequoia]

fuck what do i do what do i do

[eternal zenith]

Literally asked myself 5 seconds before you posted why all the -30% is up

[sleek fractal]

No

May 5 to 10 are Store sales

[keen sequoia]

oh

well

got more time then

sweet

[sleek fractal]

Get 365 Days premium 50% off

Thats a banger

[keen sequoia]

how much

[eternal zenith]

60

[keen sequoia]

fuck that

[sleek fractal]

Apples

50€ GE but you have like 10€ GE left

Just look ingame

Its not on sale in the store

[eternal zenith]

you can also first use the referral to get store discount GE

so it's like $45

[sleek fractal]

180 days are also 50% off but in the store

I think it was better and cheaper to buy 2x 180 days

Yeah 360 Days 40 bucks

[keen sequoia]

Would it just be better for me to spend my money on 360 days of premium time instead of the mig?

[sleek fractal]

Depends on what you want

If you just want a Jet,then Premium is better

If you want an SL and RP grinder for Russian air,the Mig is better

[keen sequoia]

Hmm

I want both

I just want to own a jet

but

I wanna grind out the russian air

[eternal zenith]

$36.8 for a year of preem if using GE with -25% off

[keen sequoia]

is that $36 USD?

[eternal zenith]

think I calculated with euro price, actually

lemme check AUS dollar value

[keen sequoia]

aight

[sleek fractal]

Not available

Its worth nothing

[keen sequoia]

what is

[sleek fractal]

Upside down Dollaroos

Im joking

Its a bad joke and im sick today

[keen sequoia]

oh

[sleek fractal]

I deserve feeling extra bad

But it should be like the normal dollar range

40€ are 66,73 australian dollar

But the question is whats the store price?

[keen sequoia]

$66 for fucking premium

pain

Thing is with the premium time

thats a whole year

I'd be able to grind like everything

US air

ground

[sleek fractal]

Hiw can you say that?

[keen sequoia]

rest of germany

fucken

[sleek fractal]

Whats the store price ?

[keen sequoia]

ussr air and ground

[eternal zenith]

bro wtf

[keen sequoia]

Fuck that

[sleek fractal]

Whats the 180 days premium price?

[keen sequoia]

nah nah not the 180

[eternal zenith]

55 for a year of pree tho

[keen sequoia]

55 for 360 days?

Fuck

that is tempting

[eternal zenith]

30 AUS for 180 days

[keen sequoia]

That is really tempting

[eternal zenith]

wait

check if your ingame GE premium rate is the same

I calculated with 7450

[sleek fractal]

GE prices are always the same

They just rip you off when buying GE

[keen sequoia]

fuck I don't know what to do

[sleek fractal]

Like wtf thats like 100€ for us

[keen sequoia]

365 days is REALLY tempting

I mean I still get 20 days with the mig

[eternal zenith]

you got 6 days

[keen sequoia]

plus I can get a bit extra with sale

[eternal zenith]

relax

[keen sequoia]

I do

but