🛩war-thunder

[compact prawn]

you mean the H?

[keen sequoia]

Whatever one the US actually used to fight 262s

irl

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Im gonna make it clear,get premium time and simply spade your vehicles

Thats the way to grind

If you take low tier into high tier you only get low tier RP because of the shit modifier and a big ass penalty cause you can only research vehicles one rank up and lower than your vehicle

When you got a line of modules you get an RP bonus + if you play a vehicle you get also an RP Bonus if you research the one next to it in the line

The magic trick is Premium time and simply playing the Game....

No need to buy overpriced premiums cause you aint having a lineup,no lineup = one death or 2 death leave = lower rewards since less activity

Its that shrimple

In Air RB its different,there you can grind the whole thing with a Premium since you got only one spawn anyway.

Premium Vehicles in Ground RB are only good to farm SL.

[keen sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-as-that-clash-royale-hee-hee-hee-haw-gif-25054781

Also

8th of may is de sale.... MWAHHAHHAHAH

I must practice with the MIG-23

[compact prawn]

s-s-sale 😳

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I would even suggest you spend the GE for the Crew

Otherwise you G-lock every turn and eat missiles

[keen sequoia]

True

I'll spend a lil bit maybe

then save the rest for premium time

get an extra 30 days

[keen sequoia]

Correct

The snail teases us

Gives us a sale as a treat

[compact prawn]

perhaps i can finally buy the a5

[keen sequoia]

I can't wait to get my hands on the MIG-23

then eventually the MIG-29

then even later

The SU-27 when they add it

I wonder when they will add it

Know what'll be even better though?

The SU-57......

[eternal zenith]

Kinda

I mean the Germans did test fly some of their jet planes afaik, the problems were just that they were used in the wrong roles and came way too late. Should've been interceptors.

Bell P-59 would've been a candidate in an alternate reality in which jet fighters were a thing probably.

[eternal zenith]

SU-57 would be a fair competitior for the F-16

[keen sequoia]

True

[eternal zenith]

Idk shit about modern planes tbh

[keen sequoia]

also hmmmm

Well

what P-51s do you have?

[keen sequoia]

Holy fuck'

@eternal zenith Flank of the century in my leo 1

Fucken

Fields of Poland

HARD flank towards their spawn

position myself in trees

take out 4 heavy/medium tanks before they realise where I am

Ricochet a few shots

before getting fucked

Wonderful match holy

got an extra 2 kills and 2 assists in my 262

holy fuck

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I have the P-59A it was an Event plane https://wiki.warthunder.com/P-59A

They plan to add a techtree one

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8200/current/

I hope its ok if i post devblogs and leaks in here

Doing that on 3 servers

Not classified shit .... obviously

I mean WT Data mines

[plain umbra]

just got these as my daily rewards

[keen sequoia]

Pog

Also

how's ya tree going?

Got any new vehicles?

[plain umbra]

just getting some 2.7 stuff

nearly got a new tank destroyer

there are no japanese light tanks until 3.0 so that sucks

[keen sequoia]

Damn

Me dming my friend when I get the T-80 squadron be like

Also

Fuck WT

Downward spiral for like the past hour

No more

[tribal isle]

Just main Sweden lmao

[keen sequoia]

No

why would you even suggest that

[plain umbra]

more like swedumb

[tribal isle]

I'm a Sweden main :(

I have the whole tech tree spaded in like 2 years of playing

I could've done it faster but I got top tier for Russia America and France first

[keen sequoia]

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Sweden and China are the best Nations ingame cause they got all the cool shit of every Nation,just in better

[keen sequoia]

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Big L when you get the Squad T-80

[keen sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/opinion-rejected-rejected-opinion-imposter-gif-22659659

Side note

I've said "Fuck this game I'm not playing anymore tonight" like 3 times

and guess what

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I can relate

[keen sequoia]

Wait when tf do the swedes have a T-80

squadron

[tribal isle]

They bought some

[keen sequoia]

Is it Murica time?

Or

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They tested them,they didnt buy

[keen sequoia]

Bias time

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They also tested Challenger and Abrams

But i guess they wont give them to the swedes

Lol why not grind one Nation first

Have fun with all the holes in every Nation when new stuff comes in

Just a suggestion

I love that they changed that you still get like 2 weeks to jump over the new vehicle

Not instantly getting blocked by it

[keen sequoia]

Why not

Why not play multiple

Ok nvm

I thought it'd be bc I'm playing 7.3 germany

is why i'm getting fucked on

but no

fucked over in US too

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US,Germany and Russia.Thats the Main 3 where all the Idiots are tbh

Germain isnt a meme for no reason

Russia has all the TURMS Players

USA just gets teamed up with Germany later on and thats what makes em shit

[keen sequoia]

I mean

Just carry the team

simple

[tribal isle]

Same thing

A man can dream dammit

[tribal isle]

Strv 122 on top fr

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https://warthunder.com/en/news/8198/current/

[eternal zenith]

no time restriction? 👀

[keen sequoia]

Fucken squadron slackers

pick up your game you shitters

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Lel

[arctic granite]

There's only like 3-4 squadron vehicles worth the time anyway

It's not like they're premium

Kinda wish they'd stop pandering to the highest bidder and shitting out more and more modern vehicles which only nullify the vehicles before them just to create more nonsense for people to grind

World War 2 stuff is genuinely the most fun you can have in the game

I do hope to see Israel become more than M48 and upgraded centurions, they had some really interesting stuff from 48-68

[sleek fractal]

Depends on your taste.

I hate the WW2 stuff

I still remember Tiger 10,5 vs Is4 times

[arctic granite]

I mean I wouldn't even go that far, it's just the fact the game was designed around WW2 stuff and there's virtually zero support for modern vehicles. They're missing basic mechanics and maps, everything is made up and it's just a hellhole to do positive with.

If you enjoy 10.0 Karelia I would also suggest CBT

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I enjoy 11.x Karelia

[arctic granite]

I'm sorry to hear that

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Since i know all the fancy spots

Just learn the maps and you are fine

Also not everything is made up

[arctic granite]

Yeah that doesn't stop people from getting cross mapped and pointing out the gross realization that is the poor map design

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All maps are poorly designed no matter which BR

[arctic granite]

Most armor schematics and shell performances are guesses or not backed up by documentation

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They are nearly all garbage

[arctic granite]

While this is true, most maps are objectively more enjoyable with the lower tier vehicles

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10.0 upwards yep

[keen sequoia]

I got neuron activation earlier in my Leo 1 fr

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Its close to realistic values

[arctic granite]

That would be considered modern, yes.

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At least for leopards

[keen sequoia]

This

This caused neuron activation

[arctic granite]

Yeah, don't look at the Challengers. They're woefully improperly modeled

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I know or the Ariete

While Russisn Top Tier tanks are to heavily armored

Still i like it,especialy flying

[arctic granite]

There's also the dozens of balance decisions which are asinine at best and purely insane at worst

[keen sequoia]

Also

I heard smth on a vid today

sums up WT PERFECTLY

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In the 10 years im playing WT volumetric was the only good addition

[arctic granite]

Nah volumetric was a horrible addition, Hullbreak was good tho

[keen sequoia]

"This game isn't fun, it has fun MOMENTS."

"Yeah federal prison also has fun moments, but that doesn't make it fun"

WT in a nutshell

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Hullbreak wasnt good

I was able to hullbreak nearly any tank with a machinegun

[arctic granite]

When they took away the x2 bonuses for first victory it was a travesty

Having light vehicles not shrug off huge shells was a bonus

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They didnt take it away lul

They just shifted it to activity

[arctic granite]

No bro, they took it away. They replaced it with something else.

[sleek fractal]

Nope,thats what most believe

Thats why most idiots still one death leave

[arctic granite]

You get less RP with each death

Also I don't think we're talking about the same thing lmao

[sleek fractal]

Is this a trust me bro case?

Were talking about rewards in a Match

[arctic granite]

No lol, Back in 2013 you would get x2 rewards for your first victory and they took that away.

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Yeah its x1.4 or something now

BUT

[arctic granite]

Bro no...

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You get more activity rewards

[arctic granite]

That was x2 on your first victory and after that it was regular rewards

It was like that for one game each nation

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Ah you mean that shit

On top of the victory rewards

Yeah ok i remember that now

[arctic granite]

Yeah that's what "first victory" meant lmaooo

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Yeah still the last year changes were good

Making activity and caps more rewarding

[arctic granite]

They even had the little yellow ribbon to show you that you still had a reward to claim

[keen sequoia]

Holy fuck that looks so different lmfao

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That was when i started playing

[arctic granite]

Yeah I've been playing for a long time

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1. April 2013

[arctic granite]

The game has only gone downhill

[arctic granite]

That's cool and all but my rewards have been cut in half since 2020

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No premium time?

[arctic granite]

Scoring 15k rp at 8.0 used to be a breeze now it's almost impossible unless you're P ranking a game

I'd drop 10 kills 3 caps for 20k

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Yeah thats because theres so much shit to grind

[arctic granite]

So making the rewards lower is a good thing???

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Nobody said its good

[arctic granite]

.

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Thats because i got increased rewards due my playstyle

And i think kill hoarding is the wrong way to play

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Play the damn objective and win

[arctic granite]

Yeah but it's still a total joke now

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Which version is that?

[arctic granite]

2020 May 15th

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I cant see the upper right corner with game version

[arctic granite]

Like the "activity" bit is a total joke too

used to be able to really grind trees now you get scraps

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Yours saying +120%

Mine just says +34%

Now break that down

[arctic granite]

Yeah I broke it down to the point where even If I carry I don't get properly rewarded

Even if you win you can't break 20k without boosters now

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Why are all your screens so weirdly cut

[arctic granite]

Better readability

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Sorry but i cant track that shit + changes made during patches without the version number

[arctic granite]

They're from May 2020

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Trust me bro Situation

I look later in my folder

I have even older ones

[arctic granite]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Version number

I need that

[arctic granite]

The fact of the matter is that rewards these days are total garbage unless you're playing aircraft

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Im not searching in 100000 hotfixes that one without a number

[arctic granite]

and even then they gutted sim (again)

So what's the point of actually trying if you're just going to get pity points anyway

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Stop playing and dont bother then

[arctic granite]

That doesn't really solve the problem at hand

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Yes it does

You dont like it,stop doing it

[arctic granite]

This kinda reward system encourages people to play for themselves and not the team

When you encourage team objectives and working together it forms better cohesion too

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It encourages to play in a 4 man squad playing the objective very much

And i cant wait for ranked

[keen sequoia]

when is ranked coming?

[arctic granite]

It's been 10 years if it does come it'll be a joke of a game mode

Remember World War Mode?

Absolute waste of time 😂

[sleek fractal]

Did you even try the ranked test?

Or the latest WW tests?

WW is garbage,indeed

[arctic granite]

Yeah I really can't want to play RB with markers with schizophrenic lineups

[keen sequoia]

what even was the WW mode

[arctic granite]

Essentially a cash grab

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No markers,good line ups last time

[keen sequoia]

It's Gaijin, everything is a cash grab

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Which was a few months ago

[keen sequoia]

I'm asking what the actual gamemode was

[arctic granite]

👆

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Every F2P is a cashgrab

[arctic granite]

Essentially your typical RB game but now it has markers

[keen sequoia]

Markers as in

[arctic granite]

Team Fortress 2 isn't a cash grab

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Dont tell wrong shit if you havent played last test

[arctic granite]

Arcade name tags, realistic aim system

[keen sequoia]

Oh

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Again wrong

Last 2 tests didnt have this

[arctic granite]

Show some screenshots then

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One sexond

Il give you the posts

[arctic granite]

So no screenshots?

[keen sequoia]

ALso

@sleek fractal

The ranked mode will just have a elo kind of like R6S I'm guessing?

Better you do, higher you go?

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https://warthunder.com/en/news/8080-event-world-war-mode-news-en

[arctic granite]

That's typical of ranked game modes so probably

If we're lucky it takes all the sweats out of random battles

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https://warthunder.com/en/news/7853-development-rankings-challenge-en

[keen sequoia]

Also, it'd be a seperate gamemode, right? Gaijin aren't just gonna go "Here, main gamemode now get fucked"

Right?

[arctic granite]

We're not that lucky

you will play skillbased matchmaking

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Even AI markers removed

[arctic granite]

Only 8 years too late

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Ww is and will stay Garbage,Ranked and good SQB rewards,thats needed

[arctic granite]

At this rate they can only manage to make new trees and purchasable modifications

Just make SQB ranked and call it there

Put development time and effort into something the game really needs

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Bug fixing,a better engine,an economy rework and BR decompression

[keen sequoia]

I mean WW from what I'm seeing from a video, it doesn't look too bad...

[arctic granite]

Or more than one game mode

[keen sequoia]

Granted, it is the fucking menu, but y'know

[arctic granite]

You have to play it to understand

It was hyped up as this like "next gen game mode"

then it's just... more of the same thing..

[keen sequoia]

whats SQB again?

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It isnt bad,its fun especialy with our community full with 1400 People,still ... you csnt coordinate even 128 people every day

[arctic granite]

Squadron battles

[keen sequoia]

Ah

Yes

[arctic granite]

The sweatfest of sweatfests

I cannot WAIT for the meltdowns of ranked teams when the buggest mess that is this game costs them ranks or levels

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We were top 50 and top 20 a lot of times but rewards are garbage if you are not top 3

Search for NOAIM and you should find like 12 or 13 Squadrons

[arctic granite]

I care not for the bickering and plight of squads

When are my US heavy tanks getting proper BRs

that aren't complete shit

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6.3

[arctic granite]

Yeah no, they're heavily overtiered

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Lol nah

6.3 is so much fun

[arctic granite]

Bro there's only one US 6.3 Heavy Tank

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Especialy down tiers against braindead tigers

[arctic granite]

you're insane if you think it's not overtiered

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The pershing is ultra fun

[arctic granite]

It's slow and overtiered

More of a 6.0 tbqh

At the bare minimum make the T25 5.7 again

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Theres 2 btw

T25 is also 6.3

[keen sequoia]

hmmm

[arctic granite]

That's a Medium

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And?

[arctic granite]

.

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Who cares if its a medium or heavy

6.3 US is fun

[arctic granite]

Because the spawn points and mechanics based around the tank change based on the classification?

[keen sequoia]

6.7 was true suffering for me ngl

1.0-5.7, awesome. 6.0-6.7 . 7.3 is fucking awesome

[arctic granite]

a .3 downtier for all US heavy tanks would probably fix most of them

Take my advice and never play the T32s

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Yeah but a med costs less points

[arctic granite]

Almost like heavy tanks are supposed to cost more because they're more dominating in tank on tank engagements

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Take my advice and play em both.

[arctic granite]

This guy is trying to get you to waste SL as you get front plated and die to 5.7s

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Theres no true shit tank in the game except for the chinese M41

Cause its dart does no damage

[arctic granite]

You're supposed to aim

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Yeah hit the ammo and make it go yellow

[arctic granite]

Works on my machine

[keen sequoia]

I do

5.7 and 7.3 is so fun

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T32 both work on my

Skill issue

[arctic granite]

Let's see some stats

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I cant cause i cant get to my PC til next week

[arctic granite]

the unfounded claims fo today

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I can show you that i got no power

But its german

So you wont understand a word

[arctic granite]

We live in 2023, languages are easily translatable

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One second 😉

Need to censor sensitive data

[arctic granite]

But seriously, what does the T32 have that really makes it 7.3 material

[sleek fractal]

Turret armor

Like every us tank at that. Br

[arctic granite]

the same turret armor that gets phased through by all the HEAT at that BR?

neat

[arctic granite]

I can't wait to withstand 330mm pen APFSDS with my 300mm turret face

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Hey he found out that every tank at that BR has an issue

Congratz

[arctic granite]

So it has one small slab of armor that makes it worth 7.3

what else

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I could tell you thecsame thing i was told

I was satisfied with what i was told

[arctic granite]

Is it the 3 inch sides? The numerous frontal weakspots? The shit reload? the shit gun performance at 7.3? The mediocre maneuverability?

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"Not everything has to be meta"

[arctic granite]

Yeah, that's true. But doesn't mean you can't strive for balance nevertheless

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Now search for the Player Luftwaffel he told me this,hes a tournament player.Look at his stats

[keen sequoia]

Ach, du bist Deutscher?

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Cant do balance and accurate stats

Yep

[arctic granite]

Like the T32 could be 6.7 and it would go from unusable to "okay"

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Bin ich

[keen sequoia]

This and a few other words is all I know of german lmao

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Ooof

[keen sequoia]

Schnell is quickly! if I remember correctly

Or faster!

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Fast

[keen sequoia]

I was 90% there

[arctic granite]

Sncheller is faster

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I mean we cann all agree on one thing

BR decompression is needed

[keen sequoia]

Scheiße is "shit!" ofc

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Especialy 2nd WW / cold war

[arctic granite]

It's not even so much decompression as much as it is just stop moving tanks to horrible spots

[keen sequoia]

True

[arctic granite]

H1 and D at 5.3 for what ungodly purpose

Why are there 76 Shermans above Panthers 😂

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Because good Players are assholes

[arctic granite]

I can't help myself

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Do you know about the italian sabre?

[arctic granite]

Yeah yeah we've all heard it before

they abused the fact they use player stats to balance it

and made it unplayable

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They do this to prove a point

Yep

[arctic granite]

The point was already proven

now there's another unplayable vehicle

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Yep and sabres are fun

Ok im partialy the reason the damage models got fixed

[arctic granite]

the air gameplay is so stale for me I can't stomach it anymore

[keen sequoia]

I really should learn more German so I can shout at my friends even more in Hell Let Loose as a Panther commander

[arctic granite]

Los is go

Then there's the new squadron hunter which invalidates the British tree further

Anything that makes Britain more garbage is a plus tho

like the Sea hawk with missiles while the British one doesn't get them at the same BR

[eternal zenith]

Lern afrikaans and sound like a german who had a stroke

[keen sequoia]

Lel

https://youtube.com/shorts/EaU3hPf4Edo?feature=share

Fucken madlad over at Gaijin

[compact prawn]

lmao i saw this

[ivory skiff]

Wargaming going back on its awful patch

[arctic granite]

What patch is it

(I have been graced by god for I do not play wargaming products)

[ivory skiff]

lol like Gaijin much better 😂

cant say im in love with either of them tbh.

[arctic granite]

Gaijin is easily one of the worst devs I know of

They outsource most of their stuff and only work on the code (very poorly)

[ivory skiff]

Gaijin, Wargaming, Battlestate, i enjoy all their games but they can be some real dickheads at times.

while ive put 200 hours into War Thunder, ive put like 2,000 into World of Tanks, so its just came out of second nature.

[arctic granite]

God the T32 is such a fuckin joke at this BR

6.0s front penning it no problem

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https://warthunder.com/en/play4free?r=utb_therussianbadger_2023#/

[charred knoll]

i love war thunder

[plain umbra]

LESGO

holy fucking bingle

[eternal zenith]

yes ho-ni

[high marlin]

Betchessss

[full moat]

https://vxtwitter.com/rodentblade/status/1647975618464849920?s=20

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[arctic granite]

Turns out the T32 is missing a shot that would put it's gun on par with the Kwk 43

They just never gave it the shell

[compact prawn]

Lmao we have the opposite amount of time we put into these games

[plain umbra]

i remember my brother bought a world of tanks account in like 2015 or something for a few hundred dollars

it had a maus which was neet

[arctic granite]

Doesn't world of tanks have a battlepass system now too

centurian maxxing

[plain umbra]

holy moly

[eternal zenith]

boy

[plain umbra]

glorius japanese tanks

[eternal zenith]

https://tenor.com/ZGtq.gif

[vagrant birch]

thunder war!!! i like this game

[soft oracle]

Least sweaty sniper player

[ivory skiff]

these teams, its not even the weekend. and yes im the only person who got a kill, the other 2 enemies that died went off a cliff in celebration.

[plain umbra]

LESGO

[soft oracle]

Yaaay!

Congrats

[plain umbra]

biiig gun

[soft oracle]

Really big gun

[plain umbra]

woag

[ivory skiff]

i want to drive the A7V

i actually thought War Thunder would have it but nope.

i think the only game that does is Battlefield

[tribal isle]

mine didnt work

[frigid carbon]

yeah i think this is too early even for wt

tbf it would have been useless very soon

[eternal zenith]

I require a deathnote for the WT playerbase

[keen sequoia]

Guten Morgen everyone

[arctic granite]

who are you doing in first

[eternal zenith]

wolfman just because

then some guy shooting my poor ozelot with some shitty propo plane

[arctic granite]

I wish all aircraft players in tank battles a very merry unalive

[eternal zenith]

I miss that short period when everything was seperated.

[arctic granite]

Tank only game modes would be so much fun

[eternal zenith]

I probably should play more CAS

[arctic granite]

It's not even rewarding

it's essentially a waste of time

only good for stat padding

[eternal zenith]

good rp points for the air tree tho

[arctic granite]

Not even

if you get 1k rp that's considered upper echelon

[eternal zenith]

did they change it again?

[arctic granite]

I can down 5 planes and get like 800 rp points

Meanwhile 2 tank kills in the same game gives me 4k rp

Aircraft in tank game modes benefits no one

the only people who don't want tank only game modes are those who are bad at tanks

[eternal zenith]

but how will you revenge bomb that tank with the 7 kill streak

[arctic granite]

just shoot him with your tank

[compact prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/as-shrimple-as-that-shrimp-shrimple-simple-as-simple-as-that-gif-25854313

[keen sequoia]

I won't be on there... right?

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@soft oracle Hey ma dude

[keen sequoia]

Can't wait to get my hands on a german T-72

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Easily fixed,go to the forum,make a bug report and put official unclassified documents/sources in the report

[arctic granite]

bro the shell is from 1944

anything about it has been unclassified for 70 years

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Im still trying to get its armor fixed since they only copy pasted the finnish one

[keen sequoia]

hmmm

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But all i have is a blue print of a polish factory

Which isnt enough

[arctic granite]

remove soviet vehicles from predominantly nato nations

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As wrote,easily fixed,do it

[arctic granite]

no because that would just make the T32 more unplayable

[keen sequoia]

[sleek fractal]

As if i can do anything.Check your mails.Sometimes it takes some time especialy if you are in the game.

[soft oracle]

Hallo hallo fellow tanker

[sleek fractal]

Found some old shit

[compact prawn]

wtf 1mill??

what booster did you use ?

[sleek fractal]

500% 300% and a 50% one

I think there was some other small ones too but eh

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8202/current/

[keen sequoia]

DAMNNNNNNNNN

[keen sequoia]

Surprisingly, the main part of "Out of touch" goes hard as fuck when the ME262 is being showcased in the hangar as it slowly spins around

[compact prawn]

another reskin good job gaijin

[compact prawn]

guh damn

[plain umbra]

she's beautiful

[eternal zenith]

lmao

bob semple reloaded

[keen sequoia]

Lovely

[plain umbra]

gods perfect creation

[arctic granite]

The battlepasses really went from great value and worth the time to get the vehicles to just total dogshit huh

[eternal zenith]

We got a 120mm naval cannon laying around, wana mount it on a tractor?

[keen sequoia]

Lmfao

[eternal zenith]

BR 2.7

[keen sequoia]

Jesus christ

[arctic granite]

It's a glass cannon at best

[eternal zenith]

I'm a simple man; I see a huge ass HE shell obliterate a light tank, I get happy

[arctic granite]

I just want fun late war balance

is that so much to ask for

[sleek fractal]

Yeah cause that aint fun

Not for most People

Its rather funny that the russian community got a poll from Gaijin,they decided WT doesnt need the Pantsir

Gaijin: IMPLEMENT PANTSIR

[arctic granite]

I don't think you even know what fun late war balance looks like

it has "fun" in the name, that's it's entire point

It starts with no putting 76 Shermans above Panthers and Tigers

[keen sequoia]

So you want a 76 sherman which already can fuck panthers and tigers up if you don't have a skill issue.... even further down?

I'm sorry but what the fuck are you smoking?

[arctic granite]

Erm no, I want the Panthers and Tigers that shouldn't be below 5.7 to go back up

Because there's no point for those tanks to be fighting 4.3

Realistically at a distance what is a Zis-5 supposed to do against a Tiger

[sleek fractal]

It was fine at 5.7 where it was

Which br is it now?

[arctic granite]

H1 is 5.3

Panther D is 5.3

[sleek fractal]

Sherman

Not those

[arctic granite]

Protopanther is 5.0 (for some reason)

Which 76 Sherman

there's like 5

Also the T20 and T25 need to be unskullfucked

[sleek fractal]

The obvious elephant in the room

The highest

I think its 5.7 now

[arctic granite]

E2 is 6.3

E8 is 5.7

[sleek fractal]

Yeah E2

It was fine at 5.7

[arctic granite]

👆

[sleek fractal]

6.3 is way to high

[arctic granite]

E8 was fine at 5.3

you could argue 5.0 purely because the M4A1 76 and M4A2 76 are 4.7/5.0

The extra mobility is not that big of a game changer

similar to the Chieftains Mk 3/5

Who in their right mind looks at the Jumbo 76 and thinks "Yeah this is on par with a Tiger II P"

[sleek fractal]

The balance division

You know whats fun.Nobody complained

Usualy the community has a hissy fit over BR changes and Gaijin changes some decisions

[arctic granite]

I mean, dozens upon dozens of people complained on the forums

and the reddit

and numerous discords

They complained so much that Gaijin said "yeah we hear you but we're not doing anything about it"

[sleek fractal]

Its the one decision in that remark they never removed

Eh just die 30000 times with it

I think that will help

[arctic granite]

Wouldn't doubt it but the issue doesn't lie so much in that the players using the vehicle are good

it's the players using the enemy vehicles are horrible

even in my bone stock T32 I'm managing 2:1 in it while fighting darts

It doesn't really matter that you have 300mm of turret armor if it gets negated by every gun at the tier anyway

The absolute best part about the T32 is that not only does it's gun exist in two different fashions earlier in the tree but there's a vehicle with the same gun that's more heavily armored and at 6.7

The only difference is that the T32 is a little more mobile

[keen sequoia]

cheeky 6 kill game

[compact prawn]

anyone wanna squad up?

[keen sequoia]

Not fucken bad

[keen sequoia]

I would but I'm going to bed now

[compact prawn]

aw

oke

[keen sequoia]

Gotta get up in approximately.... 6 hours

[compact prawn]

👍

[keen sequoia]

https://youtu.be/eTRxw-s8l74

Finally

it's completed

[eternal zenith]

thumbnail is great

😮

[keen sequoia]

Ty, ty

I went for that ominous look

Didn't wanna reveal too much y'know

Same thing with the nickname "Schwalbe"

[eternal zenith]

more like that tho

[keen sequoia]

Lmao

Also one thing I realised while filming the shots in replay mode

is how good the fucken jet engines sound when they fly over you

Anyways

with that out of the way

I can now sleep

gn

[eternal zenith]

gn

[compact prawn]

Nice vid

[arctic granite]

yeah what do you wanna do

[compact prawn]

i was about to go to sleep

maybe tomorrow

[arctic granite]

I didn't workout fast enough

it's so over

[arctic granite]

https://i.imgur.com/oLnTUKf.png

these rewards are trashhhh

time to play more 7.3

https://i.imgur.com/REwPI6U.png

[brazen coral]

Yooo you guys got a WT channel?!

[wind star]

When did War Thunder get popular enough to get channels in most discord servers huh

And I say that as a long term Gaijin cuck

[eternal zenith]

People suffered long enough to require coping space

shared suffering is half as bad

[wind star]

I rarely suffer in War Thunder anymore tbh, but that’s probably because it’s one of the easiest games to sink casual time into

CAS is CAS tho, but individual suffering is relatively low

[arctic granite]

For about 5 years

This game is more personal knowledge then it is any kind of skill level

[wind star]

Air RB I’d wager contains levels from 1-100 in terms of skill

Air SB too but it’s dead as hell

[arctic granite]

Air RB is just whoever is higher typically wins

[wind star]

Tanks is absolutely knowledge due to limitations of the vehicles and maps

[arctic granite]

unless you commit to really dumb maneuvers

Being good at war thunder is like being good at shoveling shit

[wind star]

I dunno, I’ve had some great 1v1 fights in air RB which absolutely came down to throttle, flap and attitude management

Tank RB is mostly map and vehicle knowledge

Air RB obviously has levels of knowledge, but it doesn’t necessarily determine the entire fight

[arctic granite]

Up until around 8.0 if you have the altitude advantage you can almost always win the fight no issue

It's why XP-50s are such a menace

or LF Mk IXs

[wind star]

I wouldnt say theyre a menace anymore since BR compression became silly, the XP-50 just needs its airspawn removed and it'd be fine

The issue with the XP-50 I find are the awful pilots that fly them

Which is why skill is a significant component in Air RB compared to Ground RB, theres a massive difference between performance of that of a great player vs a naff one in Air RB

[arctic granite]

I can still fly the XP-50 and do exceptionally well purely because I will end up above everyone almost every match

The only time an XP-50 dies is when they make critical mistakes

Which correlates with what you said about the XP-50 being flown by awful pilots, I managed to erase one after he merged with me in a Wyvern

But if he just went back up to altitude and tried again till he succeeded instead of turning with me it probably would have ended much more differently

The P-47s were the same way purely because of their energy advantage. Now without their air spawns and constant altitude advantages they're essentially nullified as meta fighters.

[wind star]

If an XP-50 is above you (whilst its extremely situation dependent), I often extend and decrease my altitude and bait for him. Ill bait im into a shallow dive / headon and try to get him to commit to a steep dive, normally they lock up and they end up in the ground or way below

P-47s are still decent, but yeah theyre nowhere near as ridiculous as the air spawn days

[arctic granite]

The biggest thing that was detrimental to the P-47 being fun in any metric was decreasing the game time from 60 minutes to 25

I miss being able to actually do multiple sorties per game and carry with 8+ kills

Now you do one sortie and the game ends for some retarded reason

[wind star]

Oh my god fuck the 25 min matches

I miss climbing and then slaughtering an entire team of lawnmowers

[arctic granite]

There hasn't been any good additions to the game in a long time

😔

These days all we get are broken or worthless mechanics

[plain umbra]

japan is obviously the best factions because this is their highest br spaa

Toyota with missiles on top

travel at over 100kph

drift king

[arctic granite]

I was just pondering why stingers, a pretty unreliable and unremarkable weapon, would make the Gepard 1A2 worth 9.7 compared to the Gepard at 8.0

[eternal zenith]

It's retarded how fast this thing is

you will absolutely kill the crew too by crashing

[plain umbra]

Blasting jpop while cruising at 100+kph

[eternal zenith]

Same reason why added spalling is somehow increasing BR of a tank

[arctic granite]

no fun allowed unless you abuse the meta

[eternal zenith]

if your games meta is p2w, it's a shit game

[arctic granite]

No argument there

War thunder is certainly pay to win

[plain umbra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJWqHmY-g9U

twithc prime keeps trying to give me world of tanks and world of boats stuff

warthunder should get on there

"Heres some free golden currency and boosters for being a twitch prime member :)"

[arctic granite]

just watched a panther pen my jumbo right here

[eternal zenith]

Did it go in the turret or did it deflect and go into the main compartment?

red means low probability of penetration btw.

[arctic granite]

This means it the jumbo should be 5.7

[arctic granite]

No

Straight through

I think likely answer is it actually hit to the left and gaijin shot replay is schizophrenic

[eternal zenith]

Did you watch the replay?

[keen sequoia]

Lmfao

[mental sedge]

I wish the 76mm jumbo was 5.7. It's tanky at 6.3 but I gotta turn on all ten of my brain cells to line up the APCR shots on the big cats cheeks. Obviously it'd be too op then but 🤷‍♂️

[arctic granite]

Ahh the good ole days

But german players are awful at the game and need as many advantages as humanely possible to have any chance

There is not a single good reason for the jumbo 76 to be at 6.3

[keen sequoia]

most german players are dog

I laugh when I see un angled tigers get fucked hard and then some dude is like "What!??! HOW THE FUCK DID HE PEN ME?!??!"

[arctic granite]

this is why i play the vk45

😎

When I do play germany

Its actually hard to use bc bad armour

[keen sequoia]

[arctic granite]

Its a regular tiger but objectively worse

I can still get 5-15 kill games in it

It is really funny killing unangled tigers frontally with apcr from the 75 m3

Never gets old

Prior to volumetric I thought the sherman 76 was better than panther

Then volunetric got added and penning panther turret got unreliable

[keen sequoia]

[arctic granite]

I love it so much

Most fun tiger variant

Its just so SILLY

Cant decide if the panzer 2 h is more fun tho

[eternal zenith]

ok. After playing top tier for about 4 hours now I can safely say CAS players can "KYS now" themselves

fuck this game, fuck the devs

time to uninstall again

[arctic granite]

cas is broked

t. do 335 premium owner

[keen sequoia]

Will you really though? Or will the snail force you to stay?

[idle scroll]

cries in 17pdr

Like I'll pen it and then do nothing becaus solid shot sucks

like 17pdr is great, when you don't have to aim for a tiny corner that has fuck all postpen unless you use aphe

[eternal zenith]

I def. stop playing my high tiered acc. will grind tier 3 japan from now on

Probably better to play DRG for now anyways since I started WT right at the end of the battlepass period

which, come on. So fucking dumb too

Whoever came up with the time restriction to keep players glued to the game should be put in a bronze bull

[arctic granite]

17pdr is a tiger killing machine

French solid shot also 1 shots typically

M4A1 FL10 my beloved

[eternal zenith]

ARL-44 SPG is a beast

[arctic granite]

So true

Its turret cant be penned by tigers if you angle it at 45 degrees

(Esoteric knowledge)

[eternal zenith]

yeah, but the hull is so dummy thicc

[arctic granite]

This is my fav francias vehucle at 5.0 tho

[idle scroll]

panther cheeks are a pain with it tho

[arctic granite]

I love jer so much

17pdr dopes on panther turrets

With highest pen ammo it goes thru 90% of the time

[idle scroll]

I just have fuck all post pen with my luck

[arctic granite]

Yeah solid shot and apds have shite post pen

Always aim for right side (your perspective) of panther turret

Youll kill the commandant and gunner usually

[keen sequoia]

I see

[arctic granite]

Sometimes the breach also dies

[idle scroll]

Yeah ik but if you don't have at least shot mk8 there is no spawll

[arctic granite]

Yeah

[eternal zenith]

maybe the occational dunking on BR9+ with the marder murder squad

[arctic granite]

Aim directly for mister gunner

[keen sequoia]

[arctic granite]

When mouissure gunner ded u win

Reload, kill loader, reload, kill gunner again, panther dead

Amd if you have 17pdr with apds just like, shoot the hull

[keen sequoia]

Slight amounts of ocassional trolling with the coolest llama in the land

from within the marder 3

[arctic granite]

Im quite partial to francias vehiculars

Around 5.3

At 7.3 I play centurians

And I dont play above 7.3

[idle scroll]

I mostly play air but swapped to ground lately since I've only really played air

[arctic granite]

I play low tier air ab france/japan

It is quite fun

Japanese planes crazy op in tier 1 and 2

[idle scroll]

I would do some harrier grinding but the events on and everyones a base bomber

[idle scroll]

should play low tier britain with the spitty

[arctic granite]

I dont know shit about anything past 7.3

[idle scroll]

it's actual bullying

[arctic granite]

I play air rb and bombermaxx

I love the B25 and B24

Call me mitchell the bomb man

[idle scroll]

I just bully germans who get bored of me doging their B&Z and try to dogfight me

[arctic granite]

So awesone

[idle scroll]

can say without a shadow of a doubt they don't know how to fly

[arctic granite]

Idk how to fly either

[idle scroll]

I've discovered most warthunder players don't know how to fly they just repeat manouvers

[arctic granite]

I just mouse 1 and kill dozens of planes bc jap plane op

[idle scroll]

yeah the worse is when I face Japs and Yanks on one team

[arctic granite]

My favorite manouver is something I call the spinny spin

[idle scroll]

I can't out energy or out turn anyone

[arctic granite]

I just hold q and a and win

Makes you do a weird spin and nobody can hit you

[idle scroll]

I think it's actually rolling scissors is what you're doing

[arctic granite]

Quite silly

I dont know planes man I just know funny spin

[idle scroll]

it's more a modern jet tactic to jam the IR WEZ

[arctic granite]

Hey it works in low tiers

Hard to aim at the spinner

[idle scroll]

Look I play DCS I'm peak nerd

[arctic granite]

I like the foxbat in dcs

Thats about it

It is now eepy time

Must be aweokken for work in 6 hour

[idle scroll]

the foxbat is in dcs as a playable plane?

Igght go sleep holmes

[arctic granite]

Oh I also lkke the F5E

I always liked the F5

Very cool plane

[compact prawn]

the warthunder segg its reaaal (can we get much higher)

[arctic granite]

Honestly it wouldn't even be OP... If the 75 Jumbo is 5.3 and the 76mm can be found as early as 4.3 what's the big deal with the 76er being 5.7? You can already kill the jumbo with 4.7s I genuinely don't know how people have a hard time with it

But if you go Germany then you get tanks that like the Panzer IV G that are straight up superior to other tanks at the same BR (Panzer IV F2)

[eternal zenith]

so high

[keen sequoia]

Holy fuck

this whole match felt like a movie

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094554761891676200/1098861976106565683/image.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094554761891676200/1098862097963679826/image.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094554761891676200/1098862187046514798/image.png

(I'm in the Leo ofc)

@eternal zenith All in one random battle

lmfao

[compact prawn]

nice screenshots

[keen sequoia]

ty

[sleek fractal]

Nice shots yeah

[keen sequoia]

I AM THE ANTI AIR MOTHERFUCKER.

[compact prawn]

sheeesh

[keen sequoia]

Same

[compact prawn]

"thinks back to that time my apds shell shattered when i shot at a back of a tam"

[keen sequoia]

Woohooo

discounts for vehicles I'm never gonna buy

[keen sequoia]

Another historical match, fun

[sleek fractal]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8203/current/

[sleek fractal]

There was historical matches back then when there was only Germany,Ru and USA

Like Tiger 1 vs T-34 and Shermans that couldnt do much against it

That was utter Garbage

Then there was historical Matchmaking aka Axis vs Allies

Which was fine

But they threw it over the fence when they didnt care to pursue it further with cold war tanks + theres Nations with a mix of Warsaw and Nato

Their reason was qeue times we had a Playerbase of 40k back then

Now theres like 120-150k

[keen sequoia]

lel

[sleek fractal]

https://warthunder.com/en/news/8204-development-pre-order-m1-kvt-en

Ah wtf you assholes GAIJIN

Why

We dont need that shit

[arctic granite]

I miss axis v allies matchmaking

[arctic granite]

this

Yet another battlepass not worth the money

A visually modified M1 Abrams MBT to represent a Soviet tank in exercises, with premium status and pre-order bonuses!

?

1. Why?
2. A vismod of an M1 and not the numerous other vismods?

[arctic granite]

historical matches were fun because you could pull some funny shit, it's not hard to dunk on Tiger Is with Shermans and T-34s if you know what you're doing

[sleek fractal]

That was way before the Armor system had any consistency if you played the mode.It was early Sherman nd early T-34.

Nobody wanted to play for the Allies

So they removed it.

[compact prawn]

abrums with era

💀

[arctic granite]

It was still more fun than the current system

[sleek fractal]

Friendly reminder that most of the Playerbase is utter shit at the game

[arctic granite]

Tusk already exists

[sleek fractal]

Historical matchmaking was fun

[arctic granite]

You don't say

[sleek fractal]

Historical matches as in the mode,no not fun

Tbh if they did it now,it would be fun.

[compact prawn]

oh yeah mfw i forgot tusk exist

[sleek fractal]

Im still for pulling the Naval for Ground.Split it in 2 groups.

[arctic granite]

Historical battles where they actually put historical limits on things would be insanely fun

Why couldn't we get actually cool vismods tho

[compact prawn]

that goofy turret

[compact prawn]

this is cool

[arctic granite]

like did it have to be "Just an M1 with but with ERA bricks on it"

This update is going to be about as sleep as the last one huh

I could name 20 vehicles that would be fun editions instead of the same old powercreep routine over and over

[arctic granite]

Kinda wild how Gaijin would just blatantly come out and attempt to profit off of the Russo-Ukraine war like this by capitalizing on all the ERA memes

[sleek fractal]

Would be easier to just implement ukrainian tanks

[arctic granite]

they can't make the same amount of money off of that )))

[sleek fractal]

They could make more with Russian premiums

Well ukrainian russian premiums

[arctic granite]

Yeah but there's a surprising amount of people who don't support ukraine, so going middle of the road and doing it outside of both nations while still capitalizing on it would be the best choice for maximum cash influx

[sleek fractal]

Turms and 2S,Kamov,Su25

[arctic granite]

We cannot forget that the reason we lost teamkilling in RB was because of Ukrainians and Russians

[sleek fractal]

I just think its far fetched to say they capitalise on a meme because of one vehicle

[sleek fractal]

They removed that way earlier

[arctic granite]

In 2014? Yeah.

[sleek fractal]

And you can still teamkill

[arctic granite]

Not with your ground vehicle.

[arctic granite]

It's blatantly obvious that Gaijin follows trends and is using one to generate money.

[sleek fractal]

Nah the final teamkilling for Ground RB was removed like 2019

Arcade earlier

[sleek fractal]

No shit like everyone else

Who would have thought

F2P is after money

[arctic granite]

Yeah.. so it's not so far fetched...

[sleek fractal]

Its far fetched to assume it.

They are after your money anyways

[arctic granite]

It's not an assumption if all the evidence is right there

Teamkilling via tank on tank was removed from Ground RB back in 2014

[sleek fractal]

I cant remember but it was definezly later

And you can still tk if you want

[arctic granite]

I'd like to see you use your tank's main gun to teamkill another in ground RB

[sleek fractal]

I kill you with cas

Easy

[arctic granite]

Weird, that's not the teamkilling they removed in 2014.

[sleek fractal]

You can still teamkill

Thats the point

[arctic granite]

Uh, cool. Anyway they removed teamkilling in 2014 because Russians and Ukranians would put flags on their tanks and shoot at each other.

[sleek fractal]

I still get teamkilled for ukrainian flags on my Russian Tanks

[arctic granite]

Removing teamkilling was honestly a mistake

[sleek fractal]

It wasnt

[arctic granite]

People can rush caps, block you, push you out of cover and there's nothing you can do about it

[sleek fractal]

3 Teamkills and you got banned for 24 hours anyway

I tried

[arctic granite]

Yeah so it's more of a tool than a detriment

Nothing but beneficial in the grand scope of things

[sleek fractal]

24 hours first

Then 3 days

Then a week

Then one month

After that i was told it gets up to a year

[arctic granite]

Yeah no

It's probably a cycle of 24 hours after each teamkill

[sleek fractal]

I can confirm up to a month

[arctic granite]

Or else F4WRD wouldn't have been nearly as big of a controversy

[sleek fractal]

Theres tons of controversies

[arctic granite]

So deliberate shooting at teammates may result in a kick from the session and ban from 1 to 7 days, depending upon the situation. The system will try to determine and identify only unsportsmanlike behaviour.

[sleek fractal]

Especialy squadrons

[arctic granite]

It's 7 days at most

[sleek fractal]

Now?

The old system was harder

They started shaming cheaters again

I usualy report teamkillers cause i know a GM

[arctic granite]

Most teamkills these days are mistakes tbqh

[sleek fractal]

I put a proper text in and the name of the GM at the end

Not in Air RB

[arctic granite]

In my experience the only time I get teamkilled in Air RB is because of someone's aim being bad or having poor positioning

[sleek fractal]

I mean not those that i report

Accidental missile flings yeah happen

But if you get tk right after start or 20 secs after scoring a kill

Especialy cause of my NOAIM clantag

Were the guys that organised the Play4Peace stuff,Battlebuddies and other things

[arctic granite]

I'm so glad I don't keep up with squadfag drama

[sleek fractal]

Were not making drama,were getting drama cause other communities are not getting the perks that we do

[arctic granite]

still drama

[sleek fractal]

We even have our Clan Tag as Emblem

[arctic granite]

When are we getting more fun vehicles like the SU-76i and not more 60 dollar premiums of the same exact tanks over and over

[sleek fractal]

I agree the abrams is not needed

Its just the TURMS or Pzbtl equivalent

[arctic granite]

Squadron vehicles were also a mistake

[sleek fractal]

They should have done it in a different way

[arctic granite]

There's a lot they should have done in a different way

[sleek fractal]

That you earn it via squadron battles

[arctic granite]

when are we getting thermodynamics in ground vehicles

[sleek fractal]

Thermodynamics?

[arctic granite]

yeah you know, hot and cold and how they affect tanks

[sleek fractal]

Ah that

In the works

According to leaks.

[arctic granite]

Oh I'm sure

Too busy printing mechanics like dozers which are utterly worthless

[sleek fractal]

We never get nukes

Gaijin implements nukes

[arctic granite]

What was the point of nukes

[sleek fractal]

Napalm

Same

[arctic granite]

"Wow you can't win the game traditionally so here have a magic win button"

[sleek fractal]

I think they are bs but they are the gamechanger if you perform good but you are about to lose

[arctic granite]

Neat, I'm sure the other team really appreciates having the victory they earned taken away

[eternal zenith]

Hey don't diss my dozer blades

I've actually outsmarted a guy once using dirt cover

[arctic granite]

I'm sorry but they nerfed the armor on the existing dozer blades and serve no real purpose

[sleek fractal]

The first season of Rankings Challenge begins! In its debut you’ll earn unique camouflages and titles, and the best of the best will enter the finals with a prize pool of over $3000! Can you play War Thunder well? Then the prize can be yours!

From April 24th until May 22nd fight in daily competitions “Wings of Prey” (1v1 aviation), “Shoulder to Shoulder” (2v2 ground vehicles) and “Fire Front” (5v5 mixed battles) and earn prizes in each of them!

ENTER RANKINGS CHALLENGE
You don’t have to search for long — just press Battles → Rankings Challenge in the War Thunder client. The competitions are divided between air, ground, and mixed battles, and do not overlap in the schedule.

In Rankings Challenge, each participant receives a preset collection of upgraded vehicles and an experien...

Link zum Post:
https://warthunder.com/en/news/8206/current/

[eternal zenith]

wait, dozer blades aren't armour anymore?

[sleek fractal]

Here we go

[arctic granite]

The AVRE's dozer blade was nerfed from 100mm to 30~ when the update came out

[eternal zenith]

oh

they were 100mm?!