#The Great Western Bay

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stark chasm
cosmic grove
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The Greatest Bay Evern Known To Man Period Without Exception*

subtle niche
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is this the if

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or seperate

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very glad to see the otonabee bay put to use

last cypress
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yall got a discord or smth

somber isle
mint prism
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you should check out their cities, they’re pretty cool to see

subtle niche
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ah

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I should

fathom magnet
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Diverse citizen perspectives? 😭

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How to doom a nation 101

distant echo
quaint wind
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why not part of IF?

stark chasm
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We all sceded from the IF

distant bridge
quaint wind
stark chasm
# quaint wind Think you could give a tldr on why for an outsider?

The main things would be

  • We wanted to pursue our own route in international diplomacy
  • We didn't enjoy the IF political system
  • We felt distant from the Imperial Core
  • We are enjoying playing in a smaller community
  • Our government is now entirely focused on the Bay instead
quaint wind
cosmic grove
wet wyvern
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instead of the 50 other generic nations

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or the thousands that have been made across the history of civ

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people may talk about how the IF political system is stupid but at least they are talking about it in the first place

paper ember
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if its just the same people running everything 100% of the time its almost like whats the point of pretending to have politics

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you have to strike a healthy balance of having the old guard only run 50% of the government

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and then letting newfriends run amock in the other 50%

fathom magnet
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But we have a system where deviation from the state policies or disagreement isn't allowed

cosmic grove
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sadly the Paviamonkey Estaliboo Icentard ruling class denied me

fathom magnet
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Wtf is freedom of speech

cosmic grove
fathom magnet
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we did it, you can do it too

cosmic grove
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nah the GWB is to small for my grand plans

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New Callisto will become the next 0,0 of course

fathom magnet
cosmic grove
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i already placed a buncha signs and made Jalhf slightly mad

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i think thats enough for me

fathom magnet
cosmic grove
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i tried

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a lot of them are reinforced

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i did switch a good portion of the levers tho

fathom magnet
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💀💀💀💀

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I didn't actually mean that

cosmic grove
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i did

shell quiver
distant echo
shell quiver
distant echo
shell quiver
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I wasn't

distant echo
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oop

shell quiver
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If anything the IFs been empowering newfriends

distant bridge
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Which ones

shell quiver
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Let's see. Gidein was chancellor, Gabe was chancellor, I was/am chancellor, Immidy was chancellor, Hass was chancellor, Bicep, zeroql, Urzork, Pumpkin, Deaf, Gobby and countless others made senators... Folks in the IF scale the ladder faster than in most nations, but i guess some folks just refuse to see it and cry about the unfair system despite themselves profiting off of it

shell quiver
# distant bridge Which ones

Oh and since you have doubts, you are a territorial senator in the IF despite having promoted independence of the Bay and here questioning how the IF empowers newfriends. In many other nations you'd be out of the government and we keep you

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I supported independence of the bay and still do, cause i like y'all and i believe in the right to self-determination. But if you think I'm gonna keep quiet when y'all live in the echo chamber and cry how bad the IF is/was, I won't. You had your reasons, respectable, but draw the damn line.

distant bridge
urban summit
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TIll you can leave?

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No one stops you.

distant bridge
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with surmadri.

paper ember
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@distant bridge didnt you already leave

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and then go back

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or something

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idk what happened im not judging just curious

distant bridge
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It was interesting circumstances

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But to an extent yes

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@paper ember

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The main thing is that staying and leaving doesnt really impact me as i dont use a lot of the things a normal citizen would (exchanges, defense, etc)

paper ember
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why not

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and then so the question becomes, why did you rejoin in the first place

distant bridge
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Attempt to get more activity

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More newfriends

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Went about how youd expect

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Also from like december to march(we rejoined) i was essentially playing in the if anyway

fathom magnet
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The Imperial Federation is infinite times better than the GWB. It allows people to create their own states literally days after joining the server

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We in Alcantara have no issues with the IF whatsoever. Bicep is a double citizen of the IF and Alcantara, and is in our government even

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Instead, the GWB messaged us for "ending the beef" and despite that, they keep us cut off from their land and have a POS order against many of our citizens

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The GWB is rightful Alcantaran territory. The traitors of the revolution will be punished

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The anti-communists will not live to tell the tale

rough oriole
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the yapping level today is CATASTROPHIC

fathom magnet
pure dust
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and so you're forced to sail around

fathom magnet
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Yep LMAO

fathom magnet
fathom magnet
rough oriole
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war?

fathom magnet
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They diplomatically ignored us for weeks

pure dust
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The Western War

rough oriole
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i played factions about eight years ago so im pretty good myself at this whole player versus player thing

fathom magnet
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Dm me

pure dust
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i like spectating wars i should watch

fathom magnet
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If we accidentally kill you we will free u tho so dw

boreal spruce
# fathom magnet They diplomatically ignored us for weeks

No one was diplomatically ignored. You're just not your nations leader. Talk to Diego if you felt that he wasn't providing enough info on us talking to him. We've been attempting to follow up with him for weeks. I've got receipts.

rough oriole
boreal spruce
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Yeah man

rough oriole
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or whatever the ruddy hell his name was

boreal spruce
rough oriole
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i think ive found my calling on this server

fathom magnet
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Enjoy your final times

rough oriole
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im going to be a mercenary, utilizing my very vague experience as a factions player a decade ago

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even though i have no idea how new minecraft works

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or why all the blocks look different

boreal spruce
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Its not changed much

rough oriole
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well thats a lie ive seen the wonderful civilization videos

boreal spruce
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Mojang is scared to do anything too drastic lest they lose the magic

pure dust
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this scares me

boreal spruce
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me too tbh

pure dust
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gragon made this smh

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should be remade

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your flag is nice

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ideas nice everything just looks fucked

boreal spruce
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Its not official :P

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he just wanted to make some country balls

fathom magnet
pure dust
boreal spruce
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Thats all well and good Thanis, but I'm not doing diplomacy with someone who isn't the leader or designated diplomat of the nation, and Diego did not indicate that we should talk to you instead of him

boreal spruce
fathom magnet
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But you don't, you didn't even lift the POS and you keep us cut off

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And let's not talk about this motherfucking corridor separating us in two

boreal spruce
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From my discussions with Diego, we're nearing peace. It's a few certain members who keep sending threatening messages to our citizens any time they happen to enter the water

fathom magnet
boreal spruce
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Indeed. Strange that they would be so aggressive. Weird even

fathom magnet
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natls is outrightly framing me in global chat

fathom magnet
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That's how it works

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You have repeatedly sent Blu to kill me in Alcantara

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You are not a peaceful nation, and stop acting like one. We will solve this how we both know best

rough oriole
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@boreal spruce who are you

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and why do you and @fathom magnet have issues

fathom magnet
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It's an entire fucking history book 💀

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Ancient beef

rough oriole
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who is diego

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the leader of alcantora?

fathom magnet
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At least Gidein tried to resolve it, and I was willing to

fathom magnet
rough oriole
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well if they are talking with diego and it seems like there will be peace shouldnt there be peace

boreal spruce
# rough oriole <@292426577055186944> who are you

I'm the current elected leader of the GWB. Thanis caused some issues, and made himself unwelcome in one of the constituent parts of our nation before it formed. In my efforts to create friendships with other nations, I've reached out to Alcantara quite a bit, by way of Diego, their leader. He's somewhat busy irl, which is fair enough, so we've been somewhat delayed in finalizing anything. I think part of that was also them attempting to secede from the IF, and not wanting to do anything till that was done.

fathom magnet
fathom magnet
boreal spruce
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At least I'm saying things worth saying Thanis

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If you wanted peace, you would try to be peaceful

fathom magnet
boreal spruce
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Alcantara for the Alcantarans, as it should be. Nobody said otherwise brother.

paper ember
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salerno declares WAR

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on high prices

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get your latest war material today

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from salerno stop and shop

fathom magnet
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But yall betrayed us when shit went down south

boreal spruce
fathom magnet
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More like 7

mint prism
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I'll summarize for @rough oriole as ik the entire story;

zeus is leader of GWB currently and thanis have beefs with GWB because of the GWB's POS orders against him after violating ban order (I believe he entered groveheart?) when both nations were part of the IF prior to the independence.

fathom magnet
mint prism
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I don't want to go into too much details tho, this is just a summary

fathom magnet
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Don't go into details

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You will lose your mind

pure dust
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this whole thing is basically greco-turkish relations with less nationalism

fathom magnet
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🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

boreal spruce
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Brother, I'm just tired of dealing with it. I just want to buildfriend lol

pure dust
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TURKS CANT EVEN COME UP WITH PROPER NAMES

mint prism
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💀

fathom magnet
pure dust
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ISTANBUL IS GREEK

fathom magnet
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Hand back Wellington

boreal spruce
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Thanis, respectfully, you've done nothing to earn anything from us. Diego I like. I'm going to bed.

rough oriole
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withervale corridor?

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what is this, hoi4?

pure dust
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the thing separating the exclave from alcantara metropol

fathom magnet
pure dust
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cities added to the map when

fathom magnet
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Me rn

rough oriole
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so when do you guys think you can get on to give me things

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no rush or anything just curious

fathom magnet
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Uhh

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2h?

distant bridge
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sometimes i feel like the same people are always up there but they did rise from newfriends

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in the if

paper ember
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especially new countries

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new country -> fast advancement -> established country -> slow advancement

distant bridge
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i mean potato has been around for a year and a half

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colton has

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jahlf has

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i have

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hass was chancellor a year and a half ago

paper ember
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i wouldn't say the IF is run by newfriends

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it is easier to get a gov position in the IF as a newfriend

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than most other places

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but unless you're considering people who have been here for a year new

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then no i don't think the IF is run by newfriends

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and that's normal and that's okay for an established country

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you WANT a circle of experienced people running your country

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but you also WANT to let newfriends integrate into that circle

distant bridge
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there is different scopes of people interacting but more expierienced players know more so they have a louder voice

paper ember
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i also on a bit of a tangent salerno has been doing a bit better and advancing a bit faster than the papal states did because it has a leadership core that mildly knows what its doing now

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and also it's not just a core of people i brought this time, a lot more on-civ recruitment which has been interesting

distant bridge
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ok nice lel

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many of the people you brought in were questionable at times..

paper ember
distant bridge
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probly husky

paper ember
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if youre talking about carter, he was the only civ native recruit we made

distant bridge
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but i mean you were drawing from those discord rp servers

paper ember
distant bridge
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bluhusky

paper ember
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husky was never on a discord rp server

distant bridge
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huh

paper ember
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we've played eu4 together in a small group for 2 years

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and before that we played minecraft on a server called colenia

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for 2 years

distant bridge
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ok i gotta go sleep its like 4 am

paper ember
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lmao same

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godspeed

frosty egret
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its like 3 months of drama

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theres people in this game whove been beefing for 12 years

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even i got beef older than this tf

rough oriole
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do not believe any alcantaran lies

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they invited me to join up with them and then they just killed me after i walked for an hour

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total waste of time

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@boreal spruce's story is likely entirely right i'm afraid

frosty egret
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are you the person bicep killed

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fascinating

rough oriole
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yes

frosty egret
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whyd they kill you

rough oriole
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"classified"

frosty egret
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fascinating

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@fathom magnet

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@jolly sleet

rough oriole
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i'm not mad im just disappointed

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i thought i was gonna get something other than killed after waiting for 3 hours for them to get on

frosty egret
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being killed doesnt really mean that zeus is right either

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you still have to hold a neutral standpoint

rough oriole
frosty egret
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since you being killed has absolutely fuck all to do with either of their stories

rough oriole
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yeah but now since one of them killed me i have decided to hold a personal grudge

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and be biased towards the other side

frosty egret
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based

rough oriole
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i don't even know why i was killed

fathom magnet
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bicep killed you without a pearl and told you to gtfo

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you instead stayed in the quadrant

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get pearled now

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you anti-communist monster

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think twice before you do anything dumb now

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the world already doesnt like us, i couldnt give a damn if they hate us even more

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you will not see the sunlight for a long time

stark chasm
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What's going on despair @fathom magnet

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So many messages, I can't read them all

rough oriole
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all i said is that i wanted to join the GWB after you killed me not really to fight unless you were going to go to war with them

fathom magnet
frosty egret
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actual goofballs

fathom magnet
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real

stark chasm
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The GWB isn't at war though deadinside

fathom magnet
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i wish people stopped making such a big deal

frosty egret
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no that goes for the both of you

stark chasm
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I'm just waiting on Diego and Maxrio to talk in diplomacy so we can get rid of the POS orders..

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Everything would be resolved pretty fast if Diego spoke to us.

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The only reason there hasn't been any movement on diplomacy is Diego hasn't been replying.

wet wyvern
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ay dios mio

stark chasm
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Beyond that I've got 0 issues with Alcantara, and the GWB is only interested in positive, or at least neutral relations.

fathom magnet
stark chasm
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That's the issue of whoevers borders you do it in shrug

wet wyvern
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the revolution must be spread

fathom magnet
shell quiver
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I think a special military operation in the bay area is needed

rough oriole
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i just want to play the game for goodness sake

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is that so much to ask

fathom magnet
wet wyvern
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@fathom magnet do you support the movement to continue calling the Great Western Bay Area (aka the Groveheart Withervale Bay) the Otonabee Bat Area in support of the native population?

fathom magnet
wet wyvern
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That was ruthlessly killed by the settler states of withervale and groveheart

fathom magnet
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i agree with that

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genocide isnt cool :((

wet wyvern
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Then they changed the name so noone would remember the otonabee natives

paper ember
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thanis the cabinet is asking you not step foot in salerno for the time being

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while we sort this out

fathom magnet
wet wyvern
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and dont even dare ask withervale what happened to landshut!

fathom magnet
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can you plez update the map man?

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we are still IF in the current map 😭

wet wyvern
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next week

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by the end of the week

fathom magnet
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YOOOOO

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BASED??

stark chasm
shell quiver
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So many lies

wet wyvern
stark chasm
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Yeah

fathom magnet
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the native otonabeeians were personally turned into scottish bagpipes by @stark chasm

shell quiver
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The natives were liberated by the COCK and they just miraculously disappeared

stark chasm
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Although technically where Alcantara is now was their main city.

fathom magnet
stark chasm
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Groveheart was completely untouched when I arrived

fathom magnet
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we kinda took down all their buildings

stark chasm
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Same with Withervale and Elyas

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The landshut mystery is .. well, mysterious.

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They all vanished in the night.

wet wyvern
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“untouched” you just don’t understand the natives build style

paper ember
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goteem

paper ember
stark chasm
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I was part of the COCK group in the re-education of the natives

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It was for the best

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Don't ask about the name, Potato is just in the closet

fathom magnet
stark chasm
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I'm pretty certain I'm still primary on the COCK nl

fathom magnet
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first victim is @rough oriole

rough oriole
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sad but true

fathom magnet
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COCK 2.0 is the Alcantaran NKVD

cobalt adder
fathom magnet
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he is clearly dangerous and doesnt deserve a release yet

frosty egret
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fascinating

fathom magnet
peak locust
peak locust
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Trying to spread blatantly false propaganda is a bold move

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You speak on not having issues with the IF but the IF revoked your citizenship, ordered you to be pearled, and made it so if you are on IF territory foreigners may come into IF land and pearl you and that only applies to you.

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Alcantara would not exist had Gidein not 1. given the land and 2. Kicked people out of Groveheart

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Alcantara ONLY exists BECAUSE of The GWB

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You were also banned from the IF discord server. Must I go on?

fathom magnet
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We don't exist because of you

stark chasm
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Natls, don't fan the rp flames.

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Please 🙏

peak locust
fathom magnet
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you are cool

distant bridge
fathom magnet
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You don't even play the server 😭😭🙏

cosmic grove
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i was on earlier

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for a solid like hour

rough oriole
cosmic grove
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im not the victim THEY are the victim

stark chasm
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#maxriowasright

rough oriole
stark chasm
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Maxrio is against communism

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#maxriowasright

stark chasm
somber isle
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The GWB is soon to pass its first proper constitution and democratic reform, which will replace the current interim representative system salute

stark chasm
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Groveheart - Great Western Bay

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peak locust
stiff roost
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Based nation

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Where discord

distant echo
somber isle
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Our New Constitution is finally finished, if you are interested in our new democracy join us in the discord!

distant bridge
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Sorry not interested in democracy

distant echo
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the bay way is the way bay

distant echo
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we adore holy roman empire type internal borders <3

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^Province of Groveheart internal map

frosty egret
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HRE 2

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Wait no

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HJE 2

somber isle
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HJE?

frosty egret
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Holy jaded Empire

peak locust
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Dont mistake us for Alcantara

peak locust
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👍

fathom magnet
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Erm, what the sigma? 🤓👆

wet wyvern
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@fathom magnet @distant echo what happened...

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top 10 saddest divorces

fathom magnet
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This could still be us but matanic is playing hard to get

distant echo
distant bridge
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Its joever

stark chasm
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Join the GWB today, the warm part of Deluvia GWB_ball_Happy

somber isle
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The Best part of Deluvia

steep tendon
stark chasm
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A while ago yeah

frosty egret
craggy mantle
shell quiver
fathom magnet
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Everything was better under IF

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I miss IF...

craggy mantle
shell quiver
fathom magnet
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indeed father

craggy mantle
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father?

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ayo 👀

shell quiver
craggy mantle
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how about, zaddy

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Im so weird

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my mood swings like a richter scale in a 9.1 earthquake

shell quiver
fathom magnet
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mommyyyyy 😳

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NAAAHHH NEVER SAYING THATA GAIN

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💀

shell quiver
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If i was your mommy you'd know how to behave

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And i was your daddy and cut your tongue out so you'd not get yourself in trouble with it

distant bridge
pliant pine
fathom magnet
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you gotta understand me

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my motivations were noble

pliant pine
stark chasm
somber isle
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Join us in the GWB, where your voice will always be directly heard thanks to our Direct Democracy!

hallow lintel
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is this still active

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probably yeah

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stupid question

distant bridge
stark chasm
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Yes GWB_ball_Happy GWB_ball_Happy

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We are still active

fathom magnet
stark chasm
distant bridge
fathom magnet
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I can spare a diamond

distant bridge
fathom magnet
distant bridge
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Poor

fathom magnet
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You should gamble instead

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99% of gamblers quit before they win big !!

distant bridge
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I think i save more money than gambling on nitro

frosty egret
pliant pine
distant bridge
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Moreso i mean i spend significantly less then the average american child

stark chasm
pliant pine
stark chasm
stark chasm
cosmic grove
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amazing

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frosty egret
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Ehhhhmazing

stark chasm
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Making a new one rn despair

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I won't forget my Naloran origins NaloraHeart

distant bridge
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Nuhloreuh

fathom magnet
cosmic grove
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this guy is pearled btw ^

stark chasm
pliant pine
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:otonabee:

hallow lintel
stark chasm
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UPDATED REGIONAL MAP OF THE GROVEHEART PROVINCE

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stark chasm
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GWB_ball_Happy UPDATED MAP OF THE GWB RAILWAY SYSTEM

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stark chasm
stark chasm
shell quiver
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Damn y'all got more subdivisions than population 😭 Make GWB great Again

peak locust
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love my motherland The GWB!!!!

distant bridge
restive abyss
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can yall add a discord invite?

somber isle
ember yoke
stark chasm
ember yoke
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Stinky gwb

distant bridge
ember yoke
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Great western bay? More like stinky western bay

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Checkmate liberals

distant bridge
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Fuck

cosmic grove
cosmic grove
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a