#Strictly Typed Minimalistic Timer Module

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gloomy rapids
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actually

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I just removed it

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Imma just push it

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Hopefully no more future updates

red ridge
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πŸ”₯

normal vector
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πŸ”₯πŸ”₯

quaint vale
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What one do I use

gloomy rapids
quaint vale
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Oke

gloomy rapids
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timed signal is a new thing I made it's basically allows you to add timeouts to signals

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without promise

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it's like promise-light

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it has states and :Resolve

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and also :Cancel

quaint vale
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Like Resume?

gloomy rapids
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have you ever used promise before

wild bane
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lmao

quaint vale
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No I thought you mean Resolve and Cancel were methods in the TimedSignal

gloomy rapids
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it's basically that without fancy stuff like :finally and :andThen

gloomy rapids
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they are

gloomy rapids
wild bane
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ironically the existance of promise is just that 1 xpcall

quaint vale
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What about a Started signal

gloomy rapids
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that's stupid errors will be caught anyways

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actually

wild bane
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you could gut everything and it still would be a promise

gloomy rapids
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that's a great idea

wild bane
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actually that gives a dumb idea lmao

gloomy rapids
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Ill add that to the uhh promise-light Im making

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wait a sec

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no

wild bane
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gut-promise

gloomy rapids
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Im stupid

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you don2t need it

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you can wrap it inside pcall yourself

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although an error state is nice ig

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it's super easy to add actually

wild bane
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I just wanna see how bare bones I can make promise be

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screw the promise caught a exception, we gonna warn raw error message

quaint vale
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Doesn't this Timer module have a memory leak?

wild bane
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πŸ™

gloomy rapids
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show me

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if it does

quaint vale
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ActiveTimers

gloomy rapids
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from active timers

quaint vale
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Oh I see

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I was looking for nil but you have a switchback

gloomy rapids
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yes

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the myth

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the legend

quaint vale
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PromiseDark

wild bane
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I wonder if heartbeat one was made because I showed DrSinek the ooga booga way

quaint vale
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πŸ‘Ώ

gloomy rapids
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looks inside

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gloomy rapids
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your ooga booga my booga booga

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neuron activation

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actually the real reason was using coroutines to wait out was really not a great way to handle things

wild bane
gloomy rapids
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I just came to that conclusion

wild bane
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becsuse promises use link list, but screw that becsuse we can just directly order functions via mixed table

gloomy rapids
wild bane
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[1..n] are the steps and then ["final"] is the finally

gloomy rapids
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and :finally

wild bane
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meh

quaint vale
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Why does Timer send 0 on the first fire

wild bane
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it just sounds like steps to me tbh

gloomy rapids
wild bane
gloomy rapids
normal vector
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yo sinek could you connect :stop() to .Ended

gloomy rapids
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is it not?

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wait a sec

normal vector
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nah it only fires when the countdown ends

gloomy rapids
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.Stop pauses timer midway

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that's not wanted behaavior

normal vector
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yeh

gloomy rapids
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fire it yourself

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if you really need it

normal vector
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how

quaint vale
gloomy rapids
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timer.Ended:Fire()

gloomy rapids
quaint vale
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1

normal vector
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ahhhh

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didnt even bother doing that

quaint vale
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You don't start counting at 0 normally?

normal vector
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thanks

gloomy rapids
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it actually represents how many ticks were done

quaint vale
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And not the current tick

gloomy rapids
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basically the current tick

wild bane
gloomy rapids
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but I start at 0

wild bane
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lmao

gloomy rapids
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I need to include it probably

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:finally is stupid tho

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like gang what

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is it supposed to run on resolvement?

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or maybe the last resolvement Ig

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it only makes sense to use these in a loading context when you have a request to some outside stuff

wild bane
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sounds like the last andThen

gloomy rapids
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yeah Idk why it exists

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never needed it

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istg luau scripters have surpassed actual lua coders

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why do we do things much more efficiently with much better looking code 😭

fresh wave
quaint vale
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I don't like Promise either

gloomy rapids
fresh wave
wild bane
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hmmm maybe renaming :Finally to :Finished, but dunno about that

fresh wave
gloomy rapids
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like whaty

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gang excuse me

wild bane
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all I heard is that you wanna use promises only when you're doing like http stuff lmao

gloomy rapids
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if you want to do waiting

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and have cancellable stuff

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like a round system

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use my timed signal πŸ‘…

fresh wave
wild bane
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unless you like it

gloomy rapids
fresh wave
wild bane
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im joking that theres more comments than lines of code

gloomy rapids
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finally finallyCall finallyReturn πŸ₯€

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what are we even doing

wild bane
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finallyExplode

gloomy rapids
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also awaitStatus is crazy aswell. You either get a request or not bro

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you are the one supposed to handle the status

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if you need to use awaitStatus your code sucks

fresh wave
gloomy rapids
quaint vale
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What is the reasoning for using an array over a dictionary

gloomy rapids
quaint vale
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Idk wym

wild bane
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Ironically if they didnt bother making comments so VS people are pleased

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it'd magically save like 300 lines

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lmao πŸ’€

gloomy rapids
gloomy rapids
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lines

quaint vale
gloomy rapids
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bigger than entire remote table

quaint vale
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Why does array do better than dictionary

gloomy rapids
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and keeps memory low

gloomy rapids
quaint vale
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Don’t think it actually helps with memory I feel

gloomy rapids
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it does

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cuz hashmaps need to get memory from different locations

quaint vale
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You have to keep the array ID though

gloomy rapids
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but arrays can be kept in 1 single contagious memory

gloomy rapids
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this is dod design trust

wild bane
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just be like C

quaint vale
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But adding a key to a dictionary to stop you from adding a key to a dictionary doesn’t help πŸ”₯

wild bane
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local THIS_THING = number

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truly saved you 0 bytes

gloomy rapids
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that's whole point

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looping a dict is slow

quaint vale
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I know but you said it saves memory

gloomy rapids
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that's a more complicated reason

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need to understand how clustering works

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plus I doubt it changes much

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these are cursed examples

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promise needs to be stopped

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you can't just wrap task.wait

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and call it a utility module

wild bane
fresh wave
wild bane
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so the status could be "maybe"

gloomy rapids
wild bane
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"maybe not", "probable", "i dont know"

gloomy rapids
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:afterWhich

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:willBe

wild bane
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:whenIFeelLikeIt

gloomy rapids
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:iDontFeelLikeIt

fresh wave
wild bane
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its for those people who get whipped for not scripting fast enough

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so they can't bother fixing errors

gloomy rapids
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that might be true πŸ₯€

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and devastating

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just get the metatable gang πŸ₯€

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fresh wave
gloomy rapids
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promise needs to be fixed

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promise needs a hero

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no one asked for

fresh wave
gloomy rapids
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truly

wild bane
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I like how we are back to just shit on overcomplicated things which should've not existed in luau

gloomy rapids
wild bane
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Wait until you see my

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Pise

gloomy rapids
normal vector
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are we discussing the purpose of promise

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why cant i spell

gloomy rapids
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just discussing why it's so bloated

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and why so many useless events and methods

normal vector
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it really is

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have you seen the sc

gloomy rapids
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horrible

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never again

normal vector
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i use it but i hope they revamp it

wild bane
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Never

gloomy rapids
wild bane
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if it works they wont touch it

gloomy rapids
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so I can understand the way people use it

wild bane
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lmao

normal vector
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.try, andThen, .is and delay

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oh and .all

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for batching

gloomy rapids
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hmm

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alr

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seems reasonable

normal vector
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.resolve too

gloomy rapids
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I will also have

  • :Cancel
  • Error handling
  • :Resolve to manually resolve
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and also PreResolve

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and PostResolve

normal vector
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you're making your own?

gloomy rapids
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yes

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less less bloated

normal vector
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damn let me know when it's done

gloomy rapids
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we are at 83 lines rn base is done

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fresh wave
# gloomy rapids these are cursed examples

We need to introduce the creator of promise and this guy:
https://devforum.roblox.com/t/pauser-a-wait-function-but-better/3942035

Developer Forum | Roblox
Pauser | a wait function but better

A small OOP easy made for convenience use as a wait function Easy to edit and add stuff into it, You stop the wait immedialy example : local p = pauser.new(100) # deploy new wait fuction event:Once(function() p:destroy() # free the wait function end) p:start() # start the wait for 100 seconds print("Wait free !") : Get This Module

wild bane
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oh I finally got a name for :finally

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:afterPromising

normal vector
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im dead

gloomy rapids
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for a sec

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and I was like

normal vector
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crazy bait

gloomy rapids
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dang it

fresh wave
gloomy rapids
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bro basically made comments inside the function

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with task.wait

# 
--Preparing
task.wait(10)
normal vector
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*insert gru

wild bane
fresh wave
gloomy rapids
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πŸ’”

normal vector
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do you guys use coroutines frequently

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i think ive used it twice in my life

wild bane
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I never knew that girl in my life

gloomy rapids
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main:Lobby()

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is crazy work

gloomy rapids
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atp

wild bane
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I love adding syntax sugar to stuff which dont need it

gloomy rapids
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cuz of all the timer stuff I do

fresh wave
normal vector
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i know theres differences between it and the task library but i've never have a need to

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what is the most obvious use case in your opinion

gloomy rapids
fresh wave
gloomy rapids
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timer module?

normal vector
gloomy rapids
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oh

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task library is a coroutine wrapper with engine scheduler updating all timers

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you can make your own task library

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suphi made in td video

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but you can even go more barebone

normal vector
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damn did bro make everything in the td video

gloomy rapids
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and do it with fully coroutines

gloomy rapids
normal vector
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lmao everyone keeps citing it like a source

gloomy rapids
gloomy rapids
normal vector
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pretty sick

gloomy rapids
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best luau tuto Ive ever watched

normal vector
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might have to check it out

wild bane
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okay now the hardest challenge is to predict computers frame time to perfect wait n seconds

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lmao

gloomy rapids
wild bane
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we must get that accurate 0.1

gloomy rapids
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oh wait

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it's even worse

fresh wave
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The amount of comments here will soon surpass the Nem's backpack module

gloomy rapids
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main:Lobby(main)

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holy shit

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I think Im going crazy

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not even main.Lobby(main)

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Guys Imma make busy waiting with coroutines who support me fr πŸ€‘

fresh wave
wild bane
gloomy rapids
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good idea

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excellent

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pc crasher 3000

wild bane
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we must use every core because we paid for it

fresh wave
wild bane
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so that actually makes me wonder

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Suphi TD in PARALLEL

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πŸ€‘

gloomy rapids
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holy

wild bane
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we gonna have 4800 enemies with 240 fps

gloomy rapids
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I don't even know if it's possible

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cuz of determinism

fresh wave
wild bane
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we just gonna use actors

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shhhh shhhhh

gloomy rapids
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I feel like suphi td is more performant on single core

wild bane
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Can roblox introduce a new way to cause segfault?, becsuse I wanna fast deliver parallel values back to main thread

fresh wave
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But I don't remember TD having something like that

fresh wave
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Use SharedTable.update() every frame

wild bane
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oh hell nah

fresh wave
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Truly the best decision

wild bane
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Trust me bro once you master parallel in roblox

fresh wave
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Put the whole TD variables in it and hit update

wild bane
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you can make anything

fresh wave
fresh wave
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Nested SharedTables. Guys, I'm cooking

wild bane
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so the first thing would be is to port over the thing which rearranges pixels of a image to Obama

gloomy rapids
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why are we using #1392625916152381580 as chat

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lol

fresh wave
fresh wave
gloomy rapids
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true tho

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truly a competition

fresh wave
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Let's farm some comments

gloomy rapids
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but I need to go πŸ₯€

fresh wave
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How was your day? @gloomy rapids

wild bane
fresh wave
gloomy rapids
fresh wave
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😞

gloomy rapids
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cyall

fresh wave
gloomy rapids
fresh wave
wild bane
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Yeah its late

fresh wave
wild bane
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maybe wasnt bright idea to stay up, but it was fun so who cares

fresh wave
wild bane
wild bane
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yo when at promise light

gloomy rapids
wild bane
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I want to make said Pise, but I wonder howd you even gut it lmao

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because this technically you passing a traceback and then using xpcall to error handle

red ridge
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these days its only promise heavy

gloomy rapids
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promise without comment is suprisingly low

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900 lines spend on comments

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still 1.1k is a bit diabolical

red ridge
gloomy rapids
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still 1.1k is huge considering no comments

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pure code

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although they implement a lot of stuff

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and it actually feels like js

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which I don't want in roblox

red ridge
gloomy rapids
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js is already a mess on it's own and roblox doesn't need all that

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we have your own systems js dont

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so basically this is going to be a new take on promise

red ridge
wild bane
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Romise

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truly

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just a better coroutine.resumeβ„’

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@gloomy rapids Im joking that the javascripts promise is better written than roblox promise lmao

gloomy rapids
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What if you port thisπŸ€‘

wild bane
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truly just port this and we got promise+\

wild bane
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okay I just realized how messy promise is

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πŸ˜”

red ridge
wild bane
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like you look where stuff is

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then you realize its 1.1k lines later

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lmaoooo

wild bane
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@gloomy rapids totally a revolutionary way to do error handling

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wild bane
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@gloomy rapids where is there just like

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maybe runtime error

gloomy rapids
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Idk

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Nothing should be named maybe in codeπŸ₯€

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Maybe its the error code

fresh wave
gloomy rapids
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But they decided to call it maybeRuntimeError bc it might be runtime error code

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Stupid naming tho

wild bane
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possibleRuntimeError

fresh wave
wild bane
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RuntimeErrorGambit

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ngl I think I cracked on how roblox promise is scripted, but I don't feel like recreating it because it already exists

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lmao

red ridge
plain escarp
gloomy rapids
plain escarp
gloomy rapids
plain escarp
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isRuntimeError?

gloomy rapids
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Yeah

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But since this value carries the error itself

plain escarp
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no that's worse, it sounds like a boolean

gloomy rapids
gloomy rapids
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Its also weird something is a runtime error or nil

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I never needed to do this in my code ever

plain escarp
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lol

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this is so bad

gloomy rapids
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Why is it only runtime error and nil

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Error should be unified

plain escarp
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if the only reason your variable name isnt overwriting something is because it uses a different casing rule its a bad variable name

gloomy rapids
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Error handling should be unified

gloomy rapids
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Disagreee

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Thats been done so many times

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And by very respectable coders

plain escarp
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so has pairs()

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doesn't make it good

gloomy rapids
plain escarp
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pairs has been used many times, and by many respectable coders

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your argument is trash

gloomy rapids
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Cuz it used to be relevant

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Duh

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Your argument is even more trash

gloomy rapids
plain escarp
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"people are on my side" isn't even an argument

gloomy rapids
plain escarp
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"people have done this" isn't either

gloomy rapids
gloomy rapids
plain escarp
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to avoid overwriting api

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by using casing rules

gloomy rapids
gloomy rapids
plain escarp
gloomy rapids
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If name is api then add _

plain escarp
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using naming conventions to avoid overwriting api is objectively bad

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no naming convention is objectively bad, thats what youre trying to twist my words to mean

gloomy rapids
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Sory

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Have better things to do rn

plain escarp
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i also have a rule yk

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its called dont overwrite api

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and dont try to lazily hide the fact that youre doing it either

gloomy rapids
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to keep code style consistent across many languages

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this is the best way

gloomy rapids
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this is gpts response

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tell me what name you'd pick

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error_result is kinda good icl

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I would probably use that if I thought for like 3 more seconds

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look they check for kind anyways

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then why call it runtime error

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there are not static error in lua anyways

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so you can just call it resulting_error

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or error_result

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or simply just error_

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all work pretty good names

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also it's been weeks since this

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I don't even remember the context of this code

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but yeah this is definitely not a good way to handle errors

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a bit unnecessary

gloomy rapids
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v1.15 is here

  • Added IsRunning public function
  • Switched to zignal
wild bane
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Unexpected timer update

gloomy rapids
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v1.16 is here

  • Removed OOP
  • Destroyed flag fixed
wild bane
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removed OOP πŸ€”

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is it now just like a table with Signal and necessary data (ill probably just check it later)

gloomy rapids
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it's really good

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no more metatables

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I became anti metatablist

wild bane
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its like 11 pm and I have skool tomorrow

gloomy rapids
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I can just post it here ig lol

wild bane
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(I wonder why you became anti metatablist, I was there once until I realized its sometimes better to use metatables)

gloomy rapids
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bro

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code snap doesn't work

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for some fucking reason

wild bane
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depends on what you're doing

gloomy rapids
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there you go

wild bane
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I see what you're doing

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So yeah I was there once doing that style

gloomy rapids
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I only use this for code that I will never touch

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Stuff like utility

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I still use OOP

red ridge
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is the new version backwards compatible

gloomy rapids
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Drop in replacement

red ridge
gloomy rapids
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No functionality change

red ridge
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πŸ’―

wild bane
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if you dont want OOP, how about... you make it be that you just register under a name

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Timer.register(name, config)
Timer.start(name)
Timer.stop(name)

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Timer.get(name) <- yields if its not created

gloomy rapids
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especially for a such small object

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like a timer

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I do that in remote table

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every remote table is registered with a name

wild bane
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you save memory by doijg that

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very worth

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^ I mean what I say is a joke

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but there might actually be a use case for it

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also if thats what you want to call "Removed OOP"

gloomy rapids
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that's it

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its pure references now

wild bane
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also, thats kinda what __index metamethod does too (refrence coated in sugar)

gloomy rapids
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unfortunately

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__index removes the default trigger for indexing

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and runs a different branch of code block

wild bane
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but if you think about it

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it's still just a refrence coated in sugar

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Because once you get addicted then it gets hard to stop

gloomy rapids
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😭

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metatables are not just syntactic sugar

wild bane
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but I still gonna insist that __index in its most simplest form is just sugar

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πŸ€‘

gloomy rapids
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no