[WIP] Nuclear Strike Command ( NSC )

[tranquil kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/hopium-half-life-critical-hopium-hopium-levels-critical-gordon-freeman-gif-9669139738936544681

[severe helm]

You gonna do any beta testing?

[last narwhal]

oh boboy 50mt gonna be something

[potent geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-uma-musume-musume-pokke-jungle-pocket-gif-11152912155852580997

[frozen stone]

https://tenor.com/view/umamusume-aston-machan-macchan-nuk-c4nuk-gif-11117930662357419612

[winged phoenix]

Awesome 👌

" yields above 25MT are under review because in testing they end missions on most stock maps."

The maps right now are too small. I played with the TSAR mod back in 32.6 and usually one 50MT nuke in center of heartland takes about 70 - 80% of the map. In Ignus map you can clear the entirety of it using 4-5 nukes.

The game needs larger maps to handle that level of nukes. The upcoming large landlocked map will hopefully solve this issue.

[raven pine]

https://tenor.com/view/nuclear-option-nuclear-explosion-helicopter-quadrotor-tarantula-gif-7968957492644249497

This is gonna be incredible

[left orbit]

I wanna test this so badly

[elfin jacinth]

im gonna be setting up the patreon soon, and I will put changelogs, early alpha images etc. I am about to finish the UI and the webpage tutorial, maybe I can release a bit sooner but not sure yet

[left orbit]

Do you plan to add BOTE support in the future

Considering the Dyno can carry peltdrivers

[tribal mauve]

Boscali Ocean Training Exercise. Just mod that adds playable ships

[lime grove]

Early access mods are fine. But I don't recommend any paywalling of any feature.

I do not want to see any Free Lite VS Paid Pro mods in Nuclear Option

[rotund dew]

this is so peak 🥹

[left orbit]

£1 = 6 RON

[elfin jacinth]

https://www.patreon.com/c/xvres/membership

[left orbit]

Nightmare

[elfin jacinth]

what is ron

i might lowk change the release date to earlier, everythings going so well

[left orbit]

Romanian currency

[elfin jacinth]

ohhhh, is 6 ron alot there

[left orbit]

Only 1 pound is 6 RON, it probably went down lately, but I don't care anymore since I have a job now

[left orbit]

It's technically one can of Pepsi

[elfin jacinth]

oh so cheap

lucky you guys

a can of pepsi here would be like 13 ron

[left orbit]

I heard

[elfin jacinth]

😭

[left orbit]

My DND party and DM are mostly from the UK

[elfin jacinth]

like the stranger things thing?

[sweet field]

stranger things thing 😭

[elfin jacinth]

guys do you think personally my tiers are good, I don't know whether to change it or not

I think if ur just getting tier 2 ( £2.75 ) for 2 mods thats cheap

[lime grove]

Jesus, 40k rupiah

[elfin jacinth]

wait what

what is rupiah

what are these currencies bro 😭

[lime grove]

Third world country currencies

[elfin jacinth]

ohoh

is it good though

[lime grove]

Eh, not for me

Anyway, respect the hustle

[elfin jacinth]

what currency do you have

[sweet field]

i support this and wish you the best of luck.
this mod might be the most ambitious yet. up there with qol and blueprinter.
if not, the most ambitious to me at least.

also i agree with the guy im replying to.
early access 100% fine 👍

[elfin jacinth]

some patreons ive seen are 80-100$ for a GTA 5 game folder 😭

[lime grove]

But too expensive for the lack of content currently

[elfin jacinth]

im about to post now

I done one post like 20 mins ago

[elfin jacinth]

should I lower it then

[lime grove]

Remove tier 1 for now

[elfin jacinth]

and then lower each other tier by £0.50?

[sweet field]

i think price is fine

the current t1 is redundant though

[elfin jacinth]

I wanna make price suitable for everyone though

shizzle I have a bug

lemme check quick

[sweet field]

the the price is perfectly okay. i think 4 usd is a resonable price for early access.

but t1 offers nothing other than being a tip jar.

[elfin jacinth]

ill keep price but remove tier one, is that good?

[sweet field]

should be fine

[severe helm]

lol.

I wanted to help test and find bugs, but I’m not paying for that. Modding community is slowly becoming just as bad as Devs with microtransactions.

I hope devs start cracking down considering it violates their TOS and is against the law

[heavy path]

Pretty much my thoughts.

I feel like this sets a really slippery precedent for paid mods in general, though. Being able to support a developer is cool but paywalling content gets a little messy. Case in point, KSP and BeamNG

[elfin jacinth]

you can do that if youre a modder

I want as much help as I can get

im new to the modding scene

[sweet field]

i agree, but only on the exception of early access.

[elfin jacinth]

whats against the law? people pay for mods all the time. It's a digital product, I'm giving you the mod, and you're giving me money? it's called a transaction

[heavy path]

That's just profiting off of FOMO

[sweet field]

asking money for mods at all is hyper contentious.

[severe helm]

It’s actually illegal to make any kind of mods/assets for a game

[sweet field]

depends on the person.
you could say nuclear option as a whole is fomo, since it's early access

[left orbit]

Its temporary demo

[heavy path]

Not really, that's just a false equivalent. NO is a game, a whole game. We'd be talking about a mod for a game

[left orbit]

The final version will be open source

[severe helm]

You don’t own the rights to the game so you can’t make mods for any game and charge for them as it relies on a product that isn’t yours.

Just use google

[heavy path]

And again, just to keep it at the front of the discussion, donating to a mod dev to help support them is fine. There's a huge difference between that and paying a monthly fee to access a mod that will need regular future updates for it to keep working in that game

[tribal mauve]

If I had non russian bank card

[sweet field]

depends on what area you are speaking to.
nuclear option eula says nothing about payalling mods.

[elfin jacinth]

the updates will be free aswell, im not making people pay for updates thats ridiculous

[sweet field]

regardless, the mod is paid early access, im fine with waiting for an end product.

[elfin jacinth]

it will be sooner now, in flow state rn cl

[severe helm]

Every game includes in their TOS that every single player acknowledges and accepts when they first beat up a game that states they prohibit any form of generating revenue from their product BECAUSE IT IS COPYRIGHTED.

[lime grove]

The humble Content Creators

[severe helm]

This has nothing to do with the EULA for games themselves

[tribal mauve]

Just make mod free but give early access or test builds to patrons, I'm fine when mod (or some parts of it) not locked behind paywall

[elfin jacinth]

what do I do then bro. I'm literally trying to get the smallest amount of profit from working and creating mods for the public for them to enjoy it

[broken zealot]

around 200 hrn for a mod

dang

[elfin jacinth]

that sounds good

I will keep all the tiers but make tier one free, base mods

[severe helm]

This is how we arrived at the absolute abomination we have with Microtransaction and Live service.

It started small, gamers let it get a pass, and it got worse over time

[lime grove]

So there'll be a a pro and lite version?

[elfin jacinth]

no

[tribal mauve]

Bro isn't Microslop or EA

[elfin jacinth]

tier 4 will be exclusive updates, bts and early access. I will drop price

[lime grove]

Wtf r u talking about

[severe helm]

Continue to improve and when you’re ready try to work for a video game developer lol.

from the start Community made MODS were always supposed to be and should remain free

[broken zealot]

jst make the mod free and get a job😭😭🥀

[elfin jacinth]

I just said its gonna be free

[severe helm]

Not sure how I could dumb it down anymore

[tribal mauve]

So patrons just will get updates earlier and possibly less stable?

[elfin jacinth]

oh my, updates on how the development is going

[lime grove]

@elfin jacinth as a fellow modder myself, lemme tell you something called
#development-blog

[elfin jacinth]

I will literally have 3 tiers. tier one free, tier 2 0.50$ , tier 4 1$

[tribal mauve]

Oh, okay, devlogs

[elfin jacinth]

yeah

[elfin jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/just-shut-up-gif-13730390057829237584

im not making early access free, thats not how it works. Even with AAA games

[lime grove]

@elfin jacinth my advice is this
Free: continuously updated dll
Tier 1: Support + Beta test tier

As for devlog? Make it public. Here or in the free tier

[tribal mauve]

AAA games nowadays usually is just unoptimised pieces of shit without anything interesting

[elfin jacinth]

yes, after my holiday it will be release shortly after, so a few days into july

so tier 3 exlusive updates and early access

tier one both mods free

[lime grove]

I advise you to change the Patreon tiering system as soon as possible

Those current 3 tiers are not worth it

[severe helm]

That messaged wasn’t even directed to you dumbass .

I was done replying in this thread because your a kids and no reason to waste my time trying to explain to you.

[lime grove]

Imagine QoL or Ternion using your current 3 tiered system

[elfin jacinth]

bro it has to be 0.01P

it doesnt let me make it free

[elfin jacinth]

so then leave 😭

[lime grove]

That's now your
Tier 1: Support + Beta test tier

[elfin jacinth]

what price should tier one be

[sweet field]

id say for final release put in a google drive or something and edit your original post here.

[lime grove]

A pound should suffice

[elfin jacinth]

$0.01p

[elfin jacinth]

okay doing it now

what about tier 2 and 3

[lime grove]

Remove those

[elfin jacinth]

alright

[tribal mauve]

10 russian rubles

[lime grove]

So now, everyone can download your mod for free, but supporter still gets their privilege

[lime grove]

He in euro bruh

[elfin jacinth]

im in £

[tribal mauve]

Thats part of the joke

[elfin jacinth]

okay so now tier one is £1, beta testing, full access upon release, free updated .dlls

[sweet field]

you should clarify 'beta access to both .dlls'.
minor wording thing.

[elfin jacinth]

will do

[lime grove]

Also, another modder has made their test bed public. This could speeds up your development
https://github.com/Assassin1076/UFOOverhaul

[elfin jacinth]

thank you

no one gonna buy ts bru 😭

https://tenor.com/view/robot-ai-robot-ai-meme-ai-meme-gif-509507551361818171

[lime grove]

You literally joined this server 11 days ago, and suddenly post this mod

And speaking off, don't put [0.33] In the title

[elfin jacinth]

i joined a year ago on a differeent account

I got banned

[lime grove]

https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1508356013806583919

[elfin jacinth]

Nuclear Strike Command ( NSC )

[lime grove]

Include [WIP] as the prefix

[elfin jacinth]

alright

[WIP] Nuclear Strike Command ( NSC )

[neon ocean]

This mod is under review