[0.33] [AIRCRAFT] Aryx's F-16M King Viper

[low valley]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3704138110

livery :3

[fresh lily]

no matter how hard i pull or let go on the stick it doesn't do anything until like 200kts and then shits itself

[brisk coyote]

say it with me

uninstall nott

[rose junco]

Disable*

[low valley]

nott breaks stuff

[fresh lily]

if that's what breaks it i'll see what i can do

[rose junco]

There is a preview in the NOTT forum post that fixes compatability with these aircraft and kar

[fresh lily]

fixed thank you

[brisk coyote]

you're welcome

[civic lark]

looks gorgeous already

thank you for the food as always!! have you thought about making the nozzle move in accordance to the applied throttle?

[low valley]

That is desired down the line but not for now, as it requires some custom logic

[craggy elk]

ever thought of doing aircraft from Yukikaze?

[orchid sierra]

TRUE

super sylph my beloved

[orchid sierra]

super sylph as a EW aircraft would be lit

[craggy elk]

Sexiest thing to ever grace those skies

[sleek sorrel]

that makes me think, how do you handle superplanes in NO?

[orchid sierra]

https://klipy.com/gifs/greasestain-woody

[craggy elk]

https://tenor.com/view/dap-dap-up-bro-homie-cyclops-gif-4428096331414899113

[wraith mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/yukikaze-launch-plane-fighter-jet-rei-gif-1459909572554083611

personally a mave enjoyer myself, but the sylph dont miss

[craggy elk]

The mave would break this game

[orchid sierra]

like balance wise?

[wraith mauve]

naaaaah

[craggy elk]

in Aura too

[wraith mauve]

im dogwater enough to make it suck

[sleek sorrel]

basically yeah

[craggy elk]

Still would be great experience

try to recreate the carrier launch

[orchid sierra]

tbf you could add in a super sylph and have it not be batshit insane like it was in the show

but you could still have it be strong and balance it by being a high rank and expensive aircraft to obtain

[sleek sorrel]

i think the closest concept to a superfighter i've seen was P2082's Chimera, which is an advanced drone fighter IIRC

[orchid sierra]

the new bomber is a great example, its gonna be rank 5 but double the price of the darkreach since it'll no doubt be much more capable

plus ngl if i could get a super sylph in game id just be sitting in the back larpin as a scout

[sleek sorrel]

i do wanna note that stuff like the Darkreach and AB-4 are dangerous because they're big munitions platforms that can devastate ground and naval units/installations

[craggy elk]

Id take the humble sylphid and be content

[orchid sierra]

i love this funky Awacs fighter jet thing

[orchid sierra]

true

[orchid sierra]

doubly so for the AB-4 since it'll have speed and jammers

[sleek sorrel]

superfighters can be better than say the ifrit in many aspects but they wouldn't be capable of fielding the same amount of ordnance a darkreach can

[orchid sierra]

pretty much what i'd imagine the sylph to be since iirc it cant carry much externally

[orchid sierra]

could be wrong but i think it only has two external pylons

which is abysmal

[spare geode]

Anyone having issues taking off in the F-16, i cant seem to be able to pull up off the runway below 500km/h and when it does it just does a flip and stalls immediately.

[orchid sierra]

do you have NOTT

[sleek sorrel]

i feel like superfighters would be niche, not that i oppose people modding them in they're RAD

[orchid sierra]

i just want my funky recon fighter

it'd get like 4 missiles max and a gun

[spare geode]

Yes, just diabled it and it works now

[orchid sierra]

i do hope someone eventually mods it in

[orchid sierra]

nice, yeah NOTT conflicts with the f16 mod from what ive seen

[sleek sorrel]

i assume its possible to have g-force reduction on say superplanes to let players better be able to utilize their supermanuverability

[wraith mauve]

inb4 the xfa-33 fenrir gets added

[orchid sierra]

ngl i'd abuse their speed more than anything

[sleek sorrel]

revoker pilot screaming in fear as fastest plane known to man zooms them

[orchid sierra]

lmao

[wraith mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-combat-xfa-33-fenrir-gif-17180026167071430238

[orchid sierra]

considering the cruise speed of a super sylph is mach 1.7

yes

[orchid sierra]

nosferatu

[sleek sorrel]

actually super high speed might also give superfighters a niche in attacking high value surface targets if they can manage to loose heavier munitions on their way

[orchid sierra]

just give this thing agm-48's for the shoulder and belly missile racks

[sleek sorrel]

while still having enough agility to make it out of brazen attacks like that alive versus say, if an AB-4 or Darkreach got as aggressive

[craggy elk]

go dance with the angels

[sleek sorrel]

iunno how fast do you have to go to outrun CRAM targeting

[wraith mauve]

dont think any woman on earth could resist that

[orchid sierra]

depends how close

[craggy elk]

faster than the civilian aircraft next to you

[wraith mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-mj-basketball-gif-michael-jordan-no-no-no-no-gif-16220345851539903827

[orchid sierra]

this thing is gorgeous tho

[sleek sorrel]

using my superfighter just so i can harrass launcher sites

[wraith mauve]

when man...

[sleek sorrel]

speaking of launcher sites how does a superfighter do against SARH and ARH?

i'd imagine you could notch pretty quick, iunno if its really feasible in nuclear option (for the average player anyways) to dodge missiles alone through super sick aerial stunts

[orchid sierra]

depends on how much time to react

[radiant sky]

You can't really outturn most missiles without the pilot becoming paste

[orchid sierra]

if your going like mach 2 at the time of a warning and headon'ing it i imagine little time

however if you're an ace combat protag with syrup for blood sure you could out pull one lol

[wraith mauve]

[craggy elk]

or the mute pyscho from project wingman

[radiant sky]

Not mute, their mic has been deliberately sabotaged

Before that every engagement was worse than xbox live voice chat

[frank monolith]

only for drop tanks, it can carry 7 internal missiles

probably just to minimize drag in combat

Super Sylph has it a bit worse off, worse maneuverability, only 4 hardpoints

you can tell its only designed for recon and electronic support

[low valley]

Sneaky sneaky

[orchid sierra]

as god intended and i have no qualms with that

[frank monolith]

A Super Sylph....in the same sector as us?

[wraith mauve]

are you michael jordan? damn you know ball

[narrow spoke]

How do we futurize the C390

[acoustic hull]

Thats

thats fine right?

youc ant really tell but my entire tail is shaking because the bottom half got sawed off

[narrow spoke]

Oh the C390 carries 30 tons. I thought it was smaller

[brittle wyvern]

Ive seen an allied bot out-turning hostile CRAM near TBM launcher site on Compass. Sadly didn't screencap it or something.

[orchid sierra]

tbf the rounds themselves seem pretty slow

[buoyant meadow]

Is the suspension on the gear fixed?

[lyric cape]

Why is the file a nobp file? when i drag it into the mod manager it puts in 2 files

[sweet stream]

what is a mod manager

just drop it in the plugins folder

[winged estuary]

what do you mean exactly?

[charred thunder]

So... every time I take off, it just pitches up so much and stalls...

anyone got any help for me?

[shell cairn]

Wut? That's lovely, but please don't burn yourself out lol

[low valley]

remove nott.

[charred thunder]

Ah...

thx

What it NOTT is doing that?

[sweet stream]

nott has a fix out

[snow gorge]

Is NOTT compatible now??

[sweet stream]

brother.

[worn fern]

son even

[bronze crag]

Probably not

[charred thunder]

I downloaded the latest version and it wasn't working

[cunning oyster]

Although it may be hard to connect the two, NOTT can unexpectedly break the initialization of the aerodynamic system.

The mechanism is as follows: the HUD component introduced by NOTT adds itself to the aircraft’s startup list.

After the aircraft’s main component is spawned and initialized, it calls the initialization functions of the components in the startup list one by one.

Note the sequential execution here.

If the NOTT component fails during its startup, it interrupts the subsequent initialization process. As a result, all components listed after it will not start.

This means that all aerodynamic components fail to initialize their aerodynamic calculations. Consequently, the aircraft ends up with no aerodynamic forces at all.

And without aerodynamic forces… how are you supposed to take off?

[charred thunder]

Wow, I didn't know that

[prisma iron]

Do you suppose thrust reversers would be possible in NO? Imagining putting this down on one of the highway strips.

[charred thunder]

(I am not a modder, nor am I really that into molding so I never knew that)

[cunning oyster]

And the startup of NOTT WILL fail because it can not properly handle HUD and MFD structure it doesn't know

[charred thunder]

Well, thanks for the info!

[ivory sun]

Nuclrdadoption🙏

[brittle wyvern]

Ibis straight up has it

[prisma iron]

Sort of. Not really what I mean though.

[brittle wyvern]

Probably, since this plane has no changing wing geometry, VTOL or else, reverser may be tied to the same axis controls.

(hope airbrake will be strong if else)

[chrome marsh]

Is it possible to download this mod through mod manager?

[raven mica]

Should be

[pure ember]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3704300066

[final salmon]

Awacs 😈

[junior trail]

sm1 pls help

wait where do i place the blueprinter

ive got it on my files

[rose junco]

In plugins

Or you can just use NOMM and itlltake care of everything

[junior trail]

tysm

[junior trail]

wait whats that

[rose junco]

Nuclear

Option

Mod manager

It is here in the mod forum. You'll find it easily

[junior trail]

alr and last thing, its teling me to put the .nobp file in plugins, is the nobp file the one that tells me the instructions, do i put that entire folder into plugins?

[rose junco]

just

use the mod manager. it automates all of this

please, i can only get so many gray hairs

[junior trail]

im downloading it rn

[rose junco]

the next person who asks this, i will make a video show users how to get everything set up with just NOMM

i swear to bejeysus

[chrome marsh]

The download button in the mod manager isn't working. What should I do?

[rose junco]

you should check if the game directory is selected properly

[junior trail]

ok so it keeps asking me to repair or sum

[rose junco]

windows key

type

"nuclear"

look

[junior trail]

found it

[junior trail]

problem found tysm

[chrome marsh]

Sorry, but how do I know if a mod is loaded? I just did everything right, but the mod won't install.

[rose junco]

screenshot

[chrome marsh]

Is everything correct?

[rose junco]

yes. now go to discover.

[chrome marsh]

It seems like everything worked, but for some reason it doesn't show up in the game? Or do I need to wait a little?

[junior trail]

did u press the play button at the bottom or did u go to steam

[peak urchin]

Oh there is a play button there, I have never noticed that

[chrome marsh]

I just launched the game

[junior trail]

launch the game from the mod manager

[chrome marsh]

It doesn't work. Maybe the game needs to be updated?

[rose junco]

maybe you should confirm what version of the game it is

:b

[chrome marsh]

0.32.3

[rose junco]

you should update :3

[fair ibex]

Yo, I did everything according to the instructions, but I don't see a plane in the game. is it for some kind of map?

[chrome marsh]

I updated the game, but the mod still doesn't work. What should I do?

[rose junco]

did you follow all the instructions?

[chrome marsh]

Thank you very much, everything worked out.

[warped sinew]

Haveglasss

[buoyant meadow]

Its twitchier than a crack head on a Friday night

It has NO travel whatsoever

[low valley]

you on the latest version?

did a bunch of pvp games with it and had no issue other than driving on grass and breaking em

[buoyant meadow]

An f16 shouldnt tilt while taxing until it reaches 16-20 kts

Yet i can tilt while going 5kmh

This is due to the fact it has to travel

[neon vigil]

embrace the thrust to weight life and takeoff straight out of your spawn

[fathom rampart]

Surprising it's the one aircraft that can't

At least in 1.0.0

[neon vigil]

1.0.7 it most definitely can

[fathom rampart]

Imho it shouldn't

[neon vigil]

it also can go mach 1.5 at sea level

[fathom rampart]

It has incredibly good thrust as is in 1.0.5

Honestly don't see why it needed more buffs to begin with given this is a 55m Rank 2 jet that handily defeats everyone in accleration

[neon vigil]

yeah but at one big drawback of being highly effected by it's RCS and low capacitor can make it easy radar missile bait

giving it that glass cannon feel

[fathom rampart]

Even then at least you could excuse the rank 3+ jets taking off directly from hangar as being a TVC thing, the f16 dosent even have that

[vale yoke]

I feel like it should have TVC considering its a near future modernization, seems silly it doesn't but I do respect Aryx's work regardless, love the mod for what it is.
It's perfect we even got it in the first place.

[neon vigil]

to be fair if you throw a brick hard enough it will fly for a little bit lol

[proud umbra]

F-16 IRL has a positive T/W ratio

[fathom rampart]

Ehhh tbh slow speed has never been vipers thing, so I'm guessing it was just not necessary.

New aircraft is also made without TVC all the time (f35 Kf22 J20 J35 EFT etc)

[vale yoke]

Oh dang

Oh I never knew that either

Huh

[proud umbra]

it could technically take off vertically

like on paper, but it doesnt have vertical stabilisation

[fathom rampart]

But can't get the air speed to actually get front gear off the floor before it hits the grass so

[frank monolith]

the usefulness of TVC is highly overstated

[proud umbra]

if you angle the jet up a ramp maybe

@low valley i just want to say i'm looking forward to all the new toys coming up, loved your mods in SE, will follow your work here

[frank monolith]

unless you're the Gripen, most modern fighters have positive twr on average loads

[proud umbra]

the F-35 doesnt

[low valley]

the viper has fantastic STR turning performance (30 degrees sustained AOA) but lacks in instantaneous turn fighting as it lacks any form of TVC

Balance wise, it is a glass cannon

it has fantastic speed and firepower, and absolutely ZERO survivability or defence.

[frank monolith]

instant turn isnt really determined by TVC

[low valley]

Well aware, but pointing out that in an instant turn fight it will lose to tvc fighters

[frank monolith]

probably beats out the Revoker in turn rate but Ifrit has kite wing loading

[low valley]

the revoker's energy retention (and lack thereof) can help it get guns on earlier since it can stall out and use the tvc

but that also makes one a sitting duck

[vale yoke]

Honestly, when I dogfighted AI in the viper, it did make me notice how much speed Vortexes and revokers bleed in dogfights and can be outrated.

Whereas the Viper just wants to keep it's speed.

[proud umbra]

ai doestn know how to dogfight very well lol

[low valley]

the monstrous TWR helps a lot

I do need to increase the induced drag of the LERX as it's a bit tooooo retentive

[frank monolith]

Tern outperforms Revoker in turn performance because of its sheer power

[low valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1486563120339095674/1492323393826193599/mozart_bible.mp4?ex=69db92b7&is=69da4137&hm=d0f35c94bb1953ff1c2c4b53f9dcfe65631cf9392a0abfdf1483f32604449c5e&

assbeater flying it

[frank monolith]

count try making it just a bit more relaxed

[low valley]

I shifted the CoP earlier by 0.05 units and it went from 30 degrees sustained to 37

[proud umbra]

is there documentation on how to add planes to this game or a tutorial somewhere

[low valley]

it turns better if you carry augers because they make it fully unstable from CoM shift

[frank monolith]

this is what happens when you have a 200kN engine on a plane originally designed for 100

[low valley]

https://github.com/Aryx3D/Aryx-F-16M#

read.

[low valley]

well, 165

[proud umbra]

will do

[frank monolith]

i didnt know the exact number the thrust number was incorrect last i checked on an old version

still

[proud umbra]

let me rephrase that, any tutorial or guide on how to get into the modding scene

[frank monolith]

its all the power the viper has ever dreamed of

[fathom rampart]

Do they? Afaik they keep steady 375kts at all times Vortex I mean voker sucks balls

Tho they overshot very easily

[low valley]

not yet

aircraft are the most complex thing you can do in NO

order of complexity:

Scenery
Weapons
Buildings
Vehicles
Ships
Maps
Aircraft

[frank monolith]

it takes more than 1 step

[raven mica]

Regarding AI dogfighting:

For context - I was trying to get some cool gun kill shots for my vid, but the AI didn't want to play along at all

[frank monolith]

it already takes effort just to get an aircraft to exist

sitting on the ground.

[sweet stream]

loud incorrect buzzer

[low valley]

tbh it takes thirty minutes if you do just a blockout model with nothing on it

[low valley]

not everything needs tvc

[sweet stream]

Goat

[low valley]

it is the one thing I actively dislike about NO planes actually

oversaturation of tvc

[frank monolith]

i am a TVC hater

Ternion is not TVC for this reason

[low valley]

Thrust Vector Copetrol is cope for bad aero

[frank monolith]

exactly

the Tern has better low speed pitch authority than the Vortex

[sweet stream]

I don’t like everything TVC but I’d like to atleast know what 3d tvc feels like in NO

[raven mica]

I like that the Viper doesn't have TVC, and it still can turn really well

[fathom rampart]

Revoker?

[low valley]

fly the revoker

[sweet stream]

Twin engine

[raven mica]

Revoker has 3d TVC

[sweet stream]

Forgot to mention

I KNOW

AAAAAA

[fathom rampart]

The 165 kN Thrust engine:

[vale yoke]

To be fair, I thought TVC was something that modern fighters usually have nowadays.

[fathom rampart]

Viper is excellent dogfighter irl
Now give it more than 50% more thrust

[low valley]

no

[frank monolith]

F-22
Late Flankers
Felon

uhhhh

bout it

[low valley]

^

you can either:

• sacrifice all maintenance crews on the altar of TVC and double the cost of the plane just for some psm potential
  Or
• get good aero

[raven mica]

It's mostly a nifty aerobatics feature, but... not too useful for how complicated it is

[fathom rampart]

Eurofighter, Rafale, JF15, J20, J35, F35 with no TVC

[frank monolith]

stall recovery and high alt control are the only two real use cases

it doesnt really improve turn performance overall

theres some control logic to blend it with the flight controls for a theoretical ideal turn but thats still the control surfaces and wings doing 99% of the work

[raven mica]

Now, don't get me wrong, I love TVC because funny plane backflips, but eh. IRL, if you have to use it to win a dogfight - something already went terribly wrong, and you shouldn't be in this situation to begin with

[fathom rampart]

What about RCS thrusters though :V

That's just TVC on roids innit

[frank monolith]

i would like TVC with even less authority please

[frank monolith]

This line is said all the time, and i lose a part of my soul hearing it

[fathom rampart]

Wouldn't it be more authority given you exert more force on the whole lever since it's perpendicular to the lever itself

[frank monolith]

compared to the control surfaces?

no

[fathom rampart]

Compared to TVC I mean

[frank monolith]

depends on how much thrust the RCS thrusters produce

[raven mica]

@low valley That reminds me when someone on your server disabled the FBW in an Ifrit lmao

[frank monolith]

which i assume is not tha tmuch

[raven mica]

Is it wrong, tho? :v

[frank monolith]

its a bad mindset to have.

[fathom rampart]

20kN SRBs and there's 8 of them on each side of the lever

[neon vigil]

I thought the Ternion was canceled

[fathom rampart]

Absolute authority

[low valley]

days without ternion mentioned in the f16 channel: 0

[karmic pivot]

Ternion mentioning will continue until morale improves

[frank monolith]

If you find youself in a dogfight

[low valley]

would prefer ternion releasing instead

[frank monolith]

GO KILL HIM

KILLL HIMMMM

[fathom rampart]

Ternion come as bonus to alkyon?

[frank monolith]

KIIIIILLLL HIMMMM

HES OUT FRONT SHOOT HIM SHOOT HIM

[low valley]

ternion will release when AAAbattery stops gooning to ZZZ and finishes the internals

[frank monolith]

this is correct

[fathom rampart]

He what

[frank monolith]

Tripla hurry up

[karmic pivot]

@low valley ive had enough this conversation is going off topic please rename your thread to #ternion-discussion

[neon vigil]

promised everything.....
only given trailers and false hope......

[raven mica]

The longer the Ternion is unreleased the stronger it becomes

[frank monolith]

why cant I be the development bottleneck

[low valley]

I'm breaking into offriy's house, stealing the tern model from his hard drive and finishing the internals for him

[karmic pivot]

Internionals

[low valley]

F-16's ones are nice but I do want to remake em entirely at some point

the white honeycomb ingame is meh

[frank monolith]

once the internals finish we will give it to Crashes and Destruction and buffer another week before release

[frank monolith]

[raven mica]

5 more months turns into 5 days

[low valley]

5 hours bruh

[karmic pivot]

5 seconds

[low valley]

5 seconds ago

[karmic pivot]

Thats like ages trust

[low valley]

if I finish Chimera before Ternion comes out I will lose my marbles

[frank monolith]

you, probably can

[low valley]

is that comma indicative of a pause for pondering or emphasis on "you"

[raven mica]

You probably will

[frank monolith]

dramatic effect

[low valley]

[frank monolith]

internet talking is like poetry

[raven mica]

Remember when you were racing it for release with the F-16?

-# yeah, those were the times

[low valley]

forgor to mention it but I fixed the F-16's map icon scale too

[low valley]

"there's no way I release the king viper before the update"

it releases two days later

[frank monolith]

wasnt that literally last week

[karmic pivot]

Maybe the real ternion was the mentions we made along the way

[low valley]

yeah

clearly we need to make a ternion with all-moving wingtips, call it the quaternion and release it on the 4th

[frank monolith]

for those who actually want to know, im keeping it to myself, its my favorite flight model and i wont let anyone have it

[karmic pivot]

We gatekeeping flight models now bruh

[low valley]

it wasn't actually AAA holding it back it's just raikan driving it around like a millionaire and his custom built sports car

[neon vigil]

so does it mean there will be a day or so to fix whatever the update breaks like with any SE update?

[frank monolith]

we can revert to ver 0.0.1 flight model for release

[low valley]

When the update comes out I will do a maintenance update naturally

[karmic pivot]

Quaternion also features dimensions in three imaginary axis

[low valley]

Ware wrote a nice guid remapper to make the transitional process between updates easier

[karmic pivot]

There is potential for 12D thrust vectoring

[low valley]

as it means the modding environment (Airloader, Blueprinter, anything that makes assetbundles really) can be updated with the right ingame updated scripts without having to rebuild the full thing

[lilac granite]

give it the eliptical flying wing body of the XF5U and call it FS-3 Quesadillion

anyways yeah

F-16M good mod go play it

[low valley]

she's fat as hellllllllllllllll

[lilac granite]

it has cool skins too

[frank monolith]

as long as it doesnt have TVC

[low valley]

do blown flaps count

[frank monolith]

no

[low valley]

excellent

[neon vigil]

glad to see the vote was turned around

[low valley]

oh I psyopped the entire shipyard

"I'm giving you a cargo plane"
WRONG IT'S A BOMBER, AN AWACS, A GUNSHIP AND A CARGO PLANE

*not all at the same time tho

[vale yoke]

It totally has TVC look at it.

Wheeze

[frank monolith]

if we confine the AWACS operator to 1 guy in the toilet room, we can fit bomber and gunship in the cargo hold

[neon vigil]

lol that's fine by me I just want a large AWACS version that can jam all the things

[karmic pivot]

Cargo plane fans are gonna start calling it the best thing since sliced bread and then proceed to never fly cargo

[lilac granite]

it'll be more like it'll SEE all the things iirc

[frank monolith]

"hm, so what if we got a C-130?"

[lilac granite]

dussy will be better at jamming but boy the thing's radar triangle will be powerful

[karmic pivot]

And it could like vtol and it had like a side cannon

[neon vigil]

so it can't give forbidden_microwave.mp4 to the enemy

[lilac granite]

the suspiciously C-130 sized tarantula:

[lilac granite]

it can just less iirc

[frank monolith]

yeah, it would keep me from being forced to fly the Tarantula

[lilac granite]

that being said im not aryx im just saying things i remember being tossed around and can't magically make stuff happen and get changed before release

i can, however, pronounce hwale-weg properly unlike her

[low valley]

it can do everything but not all at the same time

you can carry jammers OR arads on the wing pylons

[lilac granite]

like a multirole but a very very specialized role you pick out of multi(ple)

right

WAIT

[low valley]

https://fxtwitter.com/aryx3d/status/2042810050910003605

Aryx3D (@Aryx3D)

The MC-260 Chimera 3MGST (Multi-Mission, Modular Global Stratospheric Transport) is a medium-to-heavy cargo aircraft developed as a "One Size Fits All" lifter program. Able to be configured into a gunship, a cargo transport, an AWACS, a maritime patrol aircraft, and a bomber, it is amongst the most versatile and shapeshifting airframes in the skies, lending to its name.
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︀︀It can be considered the big sister of the EC-29 Macer, its distant Kharovan sibling.

Quoting Aryx3D (@Aryx3D)
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MC-260 GST drafting
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︀︀37m long, 40m wide

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FxTwitter · Apr 11, 2026, 3:40 AM

[lilac granite]

ITS LIKE AN IFRIT WITH ONLY INTERNAL WEAPON BAYS

[low valley]

it’s basically a Heavy Multirole

[lilac granite]

IF THE WEAPON BAYS WERE A SINGLE ONE

I'M A GENIUS

[neon vigil]

that's cool I was just wondering to have the all seeing Dorito and jammers so my teammates can kill stuff for me

[lilac granite]

will it rapid dragon scimitars 🥺

[low valley]

yeah you can do that

the actual weapon slots are

Cargo Bay Front
Cargo Bay Rear

Mission Bay (omits cargo bays and bomb bay)

Bomb Bay (omits the cargo and mission bays)

Wing Pylons

[lilac granite]

wait so it can do bomb bay + jammers

[low valley]

yes

[lilac granite]

born 2026 changed games in 2026

welcome back nuclear thunder B-52

[neon vigil]

[low valley]

you all asked for C-390 i’m actually giving you BC-52390

[neon vigil]

Carrier capable?

"no"

[low valley]

nah

too big

barely fits in a medium hangar as is

[rose junco]

if you make a new carrier class, that has a different cind of "bridge" then maybe

[lilac granite]

BCPE-5239034

you forgot the AWACS and maritime patrol roles silly

[neon vigil]

5 seconds after the plane drops someone lands it on a Annex

[low valley]

oh absolutely

you may struggle tho

40m wingspan

[neon vigil]

especially with the BOTE mod and have a friend go silly fast in a carrier to help

saw 1 go 155kph the other day

if I can land the F16 on a Hyperion after forgetting my landing hook and not exploding my landing gear I feel like I have a good chance at it

[sleek sorrel]

there's footage of an AI Darkreach landing on a BOTE player controlled Annex HYPERION i remember

[frank monolith]

there is no playable annex in ba sing se

[low valley]

tbh the F-16’s landing speed is really pleasant for carrier landings even without the hook

the mig still beats it out in the “easy to catch the wire with” department

[round field]

can we have BC-52390 with JATO?

[low valley]

why don't I kill you with hammers

get the point across easier

[round field]

both are not mutually exclusive

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/703059477133525043/1134717857134030919/586966443539562604.gif

[prisma iron]

What is the best turn rate speed/condition for the 16M?

[rose junco]

F-It/Weball

[low valley]

around 180m/s iirc

[prisma iron]

Roger, good to know.

[peak vine]

is there an 8th fighter squadron black jet livery

[junior trail]

To all the great incredible modders, please please please make an f14 mod

[rose junco]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-sweep-horse-sweep-meme-ireetable-gif-961325981075501850

[raven mica]

Even if you forget the hook - you can catch the wire with the massive pair balls required to get into the MiG-15 in the first place

[vivid fox]

@low valley just saw you helped make the QAV-80 in ARMA. Super cool!

[fair ibex]

is there a more detailed instruction? I don't understand the second point. I'm downloading the file.dll and where to put it\

[low valley]

you can also try Nuclear Option Mod Manager, lets you install mods easier

[fair ibex]

ahh
in plugins. Ok

ty

[jagged cloud]

Not necessarily, jet engine thrust increases with speed

Stationary thrust is often limited

[fair ibex]

now its work
TY vm

[granite vessel]

i think this mod in one of thet last 2 or 3 updates in the last few days, now conflicts with the third person mod? (the standalone one)

all i can confirm is with blueprinter, kar, bote, f16, and shoshanas tv missile mod, as of liek yesterday it now "bricks" the game, have to unsinstall and reinstall to get it running again

3rd person hasnt been updated in forever, but it worked fine until yesterday after this mod updated once or twice, afaik

[raven mica]

Easy way to test - you can download an older version of the F-16 on github, but honestly... I don't get how mods can brick the game to the point of requiring a reinstall, because I'm pretty sure BepinEx loads them up every time you launch the game, it doesn't modify game files in any permanent way

[granite vessel]

yeah thats what i thought, but even removing bepinex and all files didnt fix it, still bricked until reinstall. weirdest issue ive ever had. its working now but only as long as i dont install the 3rd person mod.

[raven mica]

I think the problem might've been with trying to remove BepinEx. Might've left some files in, it tried to load, but couldn't because some files were missing

[granite vessel]

im certain its the 3rd p hud mod, soon as i put it back on after putting the other mods on, bricked again

[raven mica]

It is pretty sensitive in this regard. I remember trying to 'disable' some mods by changing the file type to something that wasn't a dll - but BepinEx doesn't really care, and still tries to load the file, crashing on startup. I now just take them out of the plugins folder, works like a charm

[nocturne parcel]

is it just me or whenever I try taking off when the f-16 wieghs more than 10 tons it just flips instantly when it starts rotating

[rough ember]

☝️

[queen flicker]

it's not compatible with nott yet

[lyric knot]

Absolute CHONKER I can feel the bass from its onboard speakers arleady

[vivid fox]

Is there a way to get it to stop rolling left when pulling high g? or is it just the way the aircraft flexes

Not the "try the bananas darling" meme in the cockpit

[rose junco]

Check

The

Version

For the love

Of everyone

:3

[vivid fox]

sorry, I didn't know it got updated. I manually had it installed.

[rose junco]

Go to the github

[vivid fox]

I am using NOMM and only just now saw that it was on there instead. I don't constantly check all the github pages cause I have too many mods installed to check them all.

[rose junco]

It is absolutely worth it, if you want to make sure they work. You can also check the version number on nomm itself.

[vivid fox]

Yeah I know

[lyric cape]

Nomm is now v 3.0 which it updates library mods a lot more often now

[vivid fox]

v3.1.0 now

[granite vessel]

as an update, the QOL 3rd person works fine with the f16, im suspicous its a "load order" issue, as in the original bricking, the f16m halted at 671 out of 680 something patches, but QOL loads well after f16 has finished patching.

[final salmon]

my F16 disinigrated mid air

how do i fix this

i fly and it becomes paper

[vagrant charm]

which mods do you have

[ashen lynx]

hey im having an issue where the aircraft doesnt take of or if i disable flight assist it just tumbles

[queen flicker]

delete nott

it's not compatible

[ashen lynx]

ahhh ok

[upbeat drift]

i haven't had any compatibility issues between NOTT and the F-16M

[raven mica]

There was some experimental compatibility patch, IIRC? But 99% of the times NOTT was causing issues with the F-16

[rose junco]

would be nice to know if this is main branch, or the compatability preview

[upbeat drift]

i hadn't run into compatibility issues since it first released

[upbeat drift]

main branch

also see above

[rose junco]

Send the dll in chat

[rose junco]

this is what happens when i enable just tactitools, and the viper mod

i'll try the uploaded dll in just a momento

[raven mica]

Huh. That's actually weird, because everyone who tried to use the F-16 with NOTT experienced lift issues, or weird flipping, or whatever else, so... yeah, I'd say 99 times out of a 100 - the biggest issues with the F-16 were caused by NOTT

[upbeat drift]

Discord try to work with HEVC challenge (impossible)

[rose junco]

are you unable to view it?

[upbeat drift]

it just gets stuck on the first frame

AVC videos work, but HEVC videos never do

-# yes, Discord finally did something useful here

[rose junco]

'

and now

for

the thing you've all been waiting for

i can't export this clip

anyway

[upbeat drift]

i actually had this issue with the Kestrel mod, but not this or the MiG-15

[rose junco]

same results

[rose junco]

what do you fly with

[upbeat drift]

mouse and keyboard

[rose junco]

do you have a controller nearby?

[upbeat drift]

no

[rose junco]

nothing? not even an old joystick somewhere?

[upbeat drift]

but i think i might know what the problem is

[rose junco]

aint got no gas innit

[frank monolith]

discord linux cannot play hevc, although windows and android can

[upbeat drift]

try disabling this
i did this to fix UI problems with the KAR and BOTE mods

[rose junco]

i want to punch someone

raiken

get over here

[frank monolith]

no

[rose junco]

thank you

[honest pollen]

apple bs never work as always

HEVC and HEIC are some of the worst formats out there

[upbeat drift]

this is like saying the car is not roadworthy when it's actually the road that's not carworthy

Discord here being the road

[rose junco]

my god

one setting

and the world is ok

avi8, i gotta be real. i thought you were baiting so hard

[queen flicker]

now we just need to tell that to potentially thousand players that downloaded this mod with nott

okay, maybe hundreds

but still a lot

[upbeat drift]

check what i posted in the NOTT forum thread

[rose junco]

if only there was someone in this channel, with a youtube audience who could use their platform to spread information, who recently covered the mod

man, i wish there was somebody in here like that. oh well

[upbeat drift]

i also pinged the mod creator asking to pin the fix in his thread

[rose junco]

mod authors don't have access to pinning messages even in their own mod thread

i just checked

[upbeat drift]

odd

[raven mica]

Holy shit, good catch!

[upbeat drift]

another indicator that the road is not carworthy

[rose junco]

the bridge is not sturdy enough for regular use

[upbeat drift]

yes

[rose junco]

i am getting very pedantic

moving on

how are you liking the viper mod so far?

[upbeat drift]

it just doesn't feel right to me
tho i did see it's had some balance improvements, feels like a more strike-focused sidegrade to the Revoker now

[rose junco]

it doesn't feel right how

oh right, it starts with the stability assist off is one thing

[upbeat drift]

the FQ-106 fits in with the vanilla aircraft
the F-16... just doesn't, even if it's a heavily upgraded variant

[honest pollen]

ofcourse

putting an F16 in NO is like putting a biplane back in service

[rose junco]

so vibes. not flight characteristics, not the balancing, or even it's power level

vibes

[upbeat drift]

pretty much lol

[honest pollen]

yeah the F16 is like a revoker with slightly more thrust

otherwise its basically the same

[rose junco]

don't talk about my wife the f-16 like that

[upbeat drift]

in regards to its balancing, it feels like a more strike-focused Revoker with a more powerful engine, but also a lot more drag

it's also very high-end for something operated from a highway strip

[steady stirrup]

how do i download this plane

[buoyant meadow]

F16 has a much better ttwr

[upbeat drift]

the FQ-106 balances out its incredible flight performance by having very little capacity

[raven mica]

And without 3d TVC

Also, I'm not sure, but is the Revoker supposed to land on carriers? I rarely fly the Revoker now lol, I don't remember

[rose junco]

i get that. my main counter to this is that the author has done their best to make it fit in, and that it feels very distinct in it's approach to what you do with it.

the design is just foreign enough make viper fans twitch at the dsi, while altering the overall design to be slightly more stealthy

[rose junco]

with the Nuclear option mod manager

[buoyant meadow]

Only issue i have with the f16 is really js its gear and its lack of munitions

[steady stirrup]

Where do i find that

[rose junco]

lack?

you lack munitions?

[upbeat drift]

mod manager not required, but can make things easier

[rose junco]

NOMM in the search of the forum

[buoyant meadow]

Yes you cant carry vary many of one type of munition on a pylon

[rose junco]

i like to make it easier for, while not giving them everything on a plate

[rose junco]

sucks. anyway

[upbeat drift]

it has a pylon for triple AGM-68s
the only aircraft in vanilla that has that is the Brawler

[queen flicker]

gear is accurate

[rose junco]

yes

[upbeat drift]

it can also carry triple Kingpin pods

[queen flicker]

you just have to be careful

as with real 16

[upbeat drift]

and also Lynchpins, even tho they're not rated for supersonic flight

[rose junco]

if you fly this thing like a navy pilot, you are at fault here :b

[queen flicker]

also, gear is not really an issue since you don't even damage your wings when you tip over

[buoyant meadow]

No

Very innacurate

F-16 doesnt tilt that easily

[rose junco]

You are right

[lilac granite]

aryx fix real life 😡

[buoyant meadow]

Yes it can tilt but not as easily as it does ingame

Its WAY too easy to tilt

Tilting should only be an issue for landing

[rose junco]

Ok, what do you taxi at

[buoyant meadow]

Below 20kt

(With the f16)

[rose junco]

You need to go slower

Even inreal life you would tip over

[buoyant meadow]

No it tilts irl at 20kts

[rose junco]

Yeah

[buoyant meadow]

I figured out how not to and everything but it js sucks that it takes me 30 secs to taxi instead of like 3 with any other aircraft

[raven mica]

NO players are used to taxiing like maniacs

Or getting off straight from the taxiway

[buoyant meadow]

Like i can literally drift a darkreach to the runway but i have to spend 30 secs barely moving to the runway in my f16

[rose junco]

I get that it's annoying, but that is one minor difference between it and the normal nuclear option aircraft

[raven mica]

That doesn't mean that the F-16 has inaccurate gear, it means that you'd be kicked out of Airforce if you ever got into an actual Darkreach

[buoyant meadow]

Its that big of deal to me js ruins imersion

[buoyant meadow]

No roles

[rose junco]

Because the darkreach wheelbase is as fat, as the vice president

[buoyant meadow]

Lol

[buoyant meadow]

Yes

[rose junco]

Yeah

[raven mica]

Great argument lmao

[buoyant meadow]

Darkreach yearns for the formula drift competitions

[buoyant meadow]

Shhhhhhh

[rose junco]

Im glad you feel that way

Anyway

[honest pollen]

what are the darkreach gears made out of

i have survived -20m/s descends

[buoyant meadow]

Yes

[honest pollen]

also the darkreach flies like butter bro

[buoyant meadow]

Ask the local f/a-18 landing gear manufacturer

He might know

[rose junco]

Unobtanium

[raven mica]

Bruh

[upbeat drift]

or straight from the hangar in some aircraft

[buoyant meadow]

I need thurst vectoring on the darkreach fr

[raven mica]

Yup. Pretty much the only plane you have to use a runway for is a Darkreach, all others can take off from the hangar/taxiway

Actually, no, nvm, you can take off with a Darkreach from the taxiways on the islands

[peak urchin]

Even the Brawler? That thing needs a runway

[fathom rampart]

NO players have no concept of taxiing

[radiant sky]

the 50m strip of tarmac directly in front of my hangar is my only runway

[raven mica]

Ah, yeah, the Brawler too, that thing is pretty chonky

[raven mica]

That lol. If you can't take off from the hangar or can't drift that thing onto the runway at 65 knots - unplayable

[raven mica]

Maybe the F-22 would be able to do the Revoker/Ifrit and take off straight away, but eh, I don't think that's such a big issue

[raw aspen]

does any1 else have the problem that when you select ARADs in the outer wing they just dissapir on spawn?

[queen flicker]

F-16 forced me to actually properly taxi and take off

And I like it

[final salmon]

The hell is a taxi? Isn't that a car or something?

[blissful bluff]

Hi, i'm new here, i have a question how to download a this mod

[final salmon]

Use the sub runways that are next to hangars

[queen flicker]

don't wanna

I am actually larping

[fathom rampart]

Hate, I want to taxi

[raven mica]

I'm fine either way, as long as the planes are fun to fly :v

[civic lark]

Millions must use proper taxiing procedure

[raven mica]

Time to place a speed-triggered SAM near every hangar

[honest pollen]

speed triggered 1MW laser

and it splits your plane horizontally in half

[vale yoke]

Hate. Hate, how much I've come to Hate taxi'ing.
lol

Naahh, I love taxing too, is underrated by the more weaker attention span individuals.

[vivid fox]

Honestly, if there is enough room, I usually just take off on the taxi way lmao

[low valley]

it’s already in the base message

in bright bold letters

[vale yoke]

Yeah honestly I've known the take off distance of many the airframes so be honest i do take off from the taxi way depending the airport.

[low valley]

be the change you wish to see in the world, mod things in yourself

[vivid fox]

(not original commenter) I don't have any experience with modding anything. If I were to find a 3d model, how would I be able to get it into NO?

or if there is any guide online you know of that would be helpful

[low valley]

when Blueprinter has public release you’ll be able to use that, it’s basically a unity project that runs over an asset-ripped version of the game so you can access its components and export them as an Assetbundle that the blueprinter mod can load

[low valley]

that being said, I do not recommend this

I advise learning 3D modelling first as porting models you found on sketchfab is
A) a bad look for the game
B) a bad look for you
C) won’t fit as well

[vivid fox]

thanks for the tips.

[fathom rampart]

Plus it cuts ready times by so much it hampers gameplay

[rough ember]

The cool thing about mods is that you're not forced to use them. A good way to look at it is that no matter what plane it is, the mod existing helps all of us. Why? Because this wasn't possible before and is new territory, so everything modders learn about implementing these allows the rest of us to contribute

[vale yoke]

I personally feel the f16 fits pala so they fit the revoker role in my personal escalation.

And kestrel for vortex in its own way

[lyric trench]

isn't PALA the less technologically advanced faction

[vale yoke]

Didn't think they were, what is their domestic production of ifrit and now seems like a advanced new bomber?

[lyric trench]

dunno

I just heard this somewhere else

[rough ember]

Scrappy underdog vibe

[lyric trench]

yeah

[bronze crag]

There is literally no lore other than Pala is out of a revolution

[rose junco]

Thats it?

[frank monolith]

which, wasnt that recent, Ibis development was in the 2050s

[bronze crag]

To be fair, it could be pre-revolution development

[frank monolith]

it specifically said PALA

so

[bronze crag]

Could have happened in the '60s '50s or 30s

[frank monolith]

i would disagree

[bronze crag]

I mean I hear people refer to the tu 144 as Russian development so

As well as antonov aircraft

[frank monolith]

because Russia was still a thing during the Soviet Union

[lyric trench]

god damn it dude I can't stress how much I love this

I love the F-16 this is like crack for me

[frank monolith]

also this is straight up incorrect, because Antonov is Ukranian

[raven mica]

Honestly, my favorite aircraft right now, very fun to fly

[bronze crag]

Exactly

That's the point I'm trying to make

[frank monolith]

theres no reason for Mitch to make this mistake

in his own world

[lyric trench]

Viper supremacy

[frank monolith]

that just makes the aircraft descriptions unreliable

[bronze crag]

I mean to be fair. Squeegy writes the Lore blurbs and we don't have any Canon confirmed name of a pre-revolution Pala

[frank monolith]

"Designed for a PALA fast vertical lift program in the 2050s" specifically, the Liberation Alliance's military

zero implications pre revolution

[bronze crag]

Eh I still don't think this implies literally anything because I don't think a single thought went into whether this was pre or post revolution Pala

This is the wrong thread for the debate anyway

[frank monolith]

they should change it then

[small zealot]

I'm new, is there any way to set up NOTT so that I can fly?

And what exactly in NOTT prevents the plane from taking off

[queen flicker]

turn off countermeasures screen in settings

Avi8 said that this fixed issues with aircraft controls

[cunning oyster]

It break code initialization process since its MFD components fail to start on mod planes

Although it may be hard to connect the two, NOTT can unexpectedly break the initialization of the aerodynamic system.

There is a list, which many components add its startup funcs to it

After the aircraft is spawned, funcs on that list will be called one by one

But since NOTT's startup funcs failed and caused errors, it break the upper invoke function, and all other startup functions that is listed after it will not be called, such as some aero parts

And these affected aero parts will not generate aero force, causing buggy aerodynamic behaviors

[queen flicker]

yup

[small zealot]

Oh really?

Lol

[upbeat drift]

@cunning oyster disable this

oh someone told u already lol

[small zealot]

Yeah thanks

[vivid fox]

The F-16 does not appreciate going from flame-out altitude to sea level and pull extremely high g and overspeeding

[civic lark]

youre hurting him stop

[vivid fox]

honestly was trying to see if I could disinegrate it by going super fast and pulling 10+ g. all it did was make my F-16 hurt

[vale yoke]

It wiggles.

[brisk coyote]

those who remember

[fathom rampart]

What’s the G limiter on the f16, Afaik it could hit 10+G sustained if you pull at a really high speed

[low valley]

9 by the FBW, 15 structural

if you hit 15, you will break internal airframe joints and cause The Wobble

[brisk coyote]

the viper dance

[fathom rampart]

I’m guessing its not a hard limit

[low valley]

if you hit 15G for more than a moment, good luck.

you will have problems

[fathom rampart]

Challenge accepted

[small zealot]

alr i have a new problem, my game started lagging asf, maybe anyone know why ts happen?

[rose junco]

What mods were you running

[rose junco]

I know frontlinesmap can be pretty expensive, so disable that

[small zealot]

ok i try now

[sinful topaz]

Frame limiter can help

[small zealot]

alr its worked thanks

[rose junco]

Did you grab the latest version?

[small zealot]

idk i deleted mod, maybe latest

[tough lodge]

Does the f16m have any issues cause I can’t take off and when I manage to it just inverts and crashes immediately

[queen flicker]

either uninstall nott or turn off countermeasures/weapons display in settings of nott

[tough lodge]

Shit that breaks it?

Cause in the mod manager it gives no limitations

[queen flicker]

Yes

[tough lodge]

Ight

Thanks my g

[fathom rampart]

Total of 10 pixels in the image

[tall copper]

@low valley here's another stupid idea, F-86

[rose junco]

Really?

In the viper thread?

[tall copper]

Yes, in the most popular thread that Aryx is still responding to people in, and actively listens

Yes in the literal best thread to actually discuss mod ideas since there's no mod ideas channels

[rose junco]

The mig 15 thread at least makes sense era wise

[tall copper]

Hush

[lyric trench]

F-14 first

come on man I wanna larp

[tall copper]

he's gonna release them both at the same time just to spite us

[steel comet]

This is so good LMAO

[low valley]

boscalichud what's happening??

nothing ever happens, primevajak

[vale yoke]

I want to larp as a Horten 229

Probably not useful in the 2070s but lol

Nah I only joke.

[low valley]

chances are my next shitpost plane will be either the UA-1 Zelenskiaga or a B-25 Mitchell

[vale yoke]

B25 mitchell makes more sense cause the lead dev.

[vivid fox]

whats the UA-1 Zelenskiaga?

[low valley]

https://tenor.com/view/f16-combattree-arcada-combattree-arcada-peremoga-gif-10361372223140110539

[vivid fox]

lmao 💀

[rose junco]

Original image btw

[sharp cape]

It should be launching FPV drones as its A2G munition, clearly.

[rose junco]

Only?

[sharp cape]

Obviously!

[rose junco]

Right... sure

[sharp cape]

And a unique hardpoint mounting five billion rockets.

To bomb Boscali children.

Slava Primeva.

[sharp cape]

https://youtu.be/j2Zj2TxQvfI

[rose junco]

I know

[sharp cape]

(Yeah that's in case someone third-party doesn't know what I'm referencing.)

[rose junco]

Let me just...

https://youtu.be/EQthy0RxXcs

You know, im starting to think this meme had an alterior motive. I can't quite figure out why

[sharp cape]

oh it was million

[tropic burrow]

Hey i recently started to mod the game and i was wondering if we will need to wait for an update of the mod after tomorrow's game update?

[rose junco]

Try it anyway

What's the worst that could happen

[tropic burrow]

Eh, fair enough. Thanks for the answer!

[thorn coyote]

Whats the worst could happen

• Coconut.jpeg not found

[cobalt bronze]

I would think it would work but who knows

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1397988521230209077/1491789848967643346/395_20260312080045.gif

[magic sail]

whats nott cuz i have the same problem

yo might be a dumb question but my thing aint takin off and when i take of it js spinns

[queen flicker]

https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1457938330153910440 this

[magic sail]

aight thanks

[low valley]

heads up that this and the mig mod may break in 0.33, I will work to get em fixed asap if so

[rose junco]

But isn't blueprinter the main driver?

[low valley]

half of the battle

[final salmon]

Boscali can burn to the ground

[cobalt bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/bdf-boscali-boscali-defense-force-scream-if-you-love-scream-if-you-love-bdf-gif-13529709749493055356

[little sphinx]

yep its definitely broken w/ the new update

just keeps porpoising

[vapid needle]

good to know that
it was doing the same for me as well

[shell cairn]

Same thing with the Kestrel. They probably tweaked something on the FBW params. I don't know if it's just an impression, but switching direction in pitch seems a bit smoother now. Prob just an impression

[charred thunder]

Yeah was just about to bring this up lol

[junior trail]

Screw primeva

[bronze crag]

Yeah the fly by wire got entirely overhauled

Actively working to fix it

[haughty vessel]

F1 mentioned

[little sphinx]

made me feel like Mercedes in 2022

[haughty vessel]

Zero pod ahh

[zealous crescent]

To no one's surprise I'm pretty sure the update broke the plane

you ever seen an F-16 draw a sine wave in the air?

[low valley]

update changed fly by wire, will see what’s changed and how I can fix it after work

oh my god I know

it broke it, I get it

[rich igloo]

it was pretty fun ngl trying to control it, i somehow shot my friend down when he was in a revoker cause the nose pitched up just nice for me too shoot him down LOL

[visual rover]

its intended, its just a 2024 F1 car

[visual rover]

no, you leave work and fix this RIGHT NOW /s

[zealous crescent]

word, didn't know if it had been reported yet so i figured I'd mention it. no rush

[lyric trench]

I'm not gonna stop until I can larp Top Gun in my nuclear warfare game

[solid bobcat]

👀

[low valley]

https://giphy.com/gifs/nascar-racing-daytona-coke-zero-sugar-400-XKKa6o1IuDrHxT2QqQ

neck and neck!

[silver kettle]

is the mod good for the current update or are we still waiting?

[low valley]

It is still flyable, but the update nuked the fly-by-wire so you'll get pitch oscillation

I will fix it when I'm home later today.

[silver kettle]

Oh oki

Thank you for your hard work by the way!

[low valley]

Got the scripts in the project updated, just need to wait for blueprinter to be ready

[grizzled belfry]

I will say even with the fly by war this thing is busted with the new update.

6 Agm 68s, 3 gbm-500lrs and 4 scythes.

[proud umbra]

the F-16 craves for the hills

[grizzled belfry]

or swap out the GBM-500lrs for 8 pablos. or kingpins.

[misty nexus]

will i need to reinstall files im new to modding this game

[low valley]

just the mod when it's ready

[low valley]

[0.32] [AIRCRAFT] Aryx's F-16M King Viper

[pearl granite]

blueprinter should've survived the update

internal testing it's working fine rn

[bronze crag]

Fbw changed though

[buoyant meadow]

what changed?

@bronze crag

[raven mica]

Probably this bit, if I were to guess, but I honestly have no idea how exactly things were changed, and how much does it affect the mods

[pearl granite]

a lot of FBW stuff changed

[low valley]

yeah I’ve gotta rebuild the mod and tune it all again :(

[buoyant meadow]

oooo thats very good

finally

so it was a bug

[granite isle]

we will wait for this

[low valley]

tuning fbw when the FBW tuner is broken is a bitch and a half

[warped meteor]

Godspeed to you! Love this mod. I definitely appreciate your hard work.

[heady vine]

i've only lost the F-16 for like a day now
and I already miss her

I hope the fix goes relatively well

[low valley]

hopefully fixed the structural oscillations too

https://github.com/Aryx3D/Aryx-F-16M/releases/tag/0.0.8

[0.33] [AIRCRAFT] Aryx's F-16M King Viper

[late grove]

aryx is speed

[low valley]

oh and

• added GBM-500LR to centreline and inner wing pylons

[shell cairn]

GOAT

[rough elk]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-gif-27687064

somebody's gotta race the f16 against the ab1

supercruise goes crazy

[shell cairn]

It 100% depends in what lenght we are talking about

The Akyon is a bus unitll mach

the F-16 would 100% beat it to about mach 1.3

[rough elk]

true

[shell cairn]

then it would start falling behind

[rough elk]

wouldn't be a short length obviously

[low valley]

F-16 can hit mach 1.65 clean in my experience atm

[rough elk]

and ofc f16 wouldn't be going full speed, i can get it up to mach 1.4 at 70% throttle

actually i take that back

at 7000 m and 75% throttle it hits 1.65+

probably would be something to do once the new map comes out

[neon vigil]

at what altitude?

[low valley]

on the deck

[neon vigil]

[warped sinew]

yess back to playing the f16

[tender abyss]

Is anyone else not seeing the wing tip missiles when equipping them?

[thorny flicker]

for me the plane still oscillates like crazy

[low valley]

you on latest?

what speed & loadout

[granite isle]

Im testing now on HOTAS diffrent lodout is much better than yesterday

[buoyant meadow]

If i could kiss u rn id do it rn

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-boy-boy-neko-nekomimi-nekoboy-gif-22835266

[heady vine]

did this update the NOMM versions too?

[heady vine]

well I'm not sure if the NOMM version updated, but it can load up GBM-500s now so I imagine so, but I'm still oscillating like crazy

this is at around 500 knots with GBM-500s on the inner wings, and centerline, Scythe's on the wingtips, and triple AGM-68s on the outer wings

[low valley]

are you on version 0.0.8

[heady vine]

i'm unsure, I'm using the most recent NOMM version

but I have no idea if NOMM got updated

ah- nope, nevermind, its still 1.0.7 on NOMM.

Yeah thats much better, though I get some minor oscellations at around 300 knots

[final salmon]

Yo I'll lowkey be meowing like a cat with high thighs if this mod gets fixed for 33

[upbeat drift]

read the forum thread's title

[frail topaz]

[final salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-bruh-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-higuruma-higuruma-hiromi-gif-6772381213627884903

[solid bobcat]

The end of an era 😥
Congrats @low valley !

[low valley]

Good fight 😆

[solid bobcat]

🫡

[low valley]

you know what must be done

[jaunty stratus]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[topaz moss]

yea my plane is acting like it has some messed up autopilot

i cant really take off until 2-300 knots and when i do it constantly pitches up and down randomly

[heady vine]

get the new version

[heady vine]

go on

[topaz moss]

can i do it with NOMM?

[west widget]

not currently

[topaz moss]

damn

i can wait though

any estimates on when it will be nomm available?

[heady vine]

just install the new version and put it in via nomm

its literally just drag and drop

[topaz moss]

yea you right

alr

[heady vine]

thats what I did

[topaz moss]

i am incredibly stupid: do i drop the .nobp file into bepinex plugins?

yes

alr nvm

[heady vine]

NOMM has this incredibly handy menu

you can just hit add from file, grab the file from downloads

and it slaps it right into plugins without having to worry about anything

[topaz moss]

ohhh

thats really cool

[glass bear]

How did you manage to find the textures for internal structures and gibs? They look really close, if not the same as vanilla. Also what are the resources I can learn to make aircraft mod (Not the modeling part, but the porting, handling configuration and making sure that AI can use it properly and stuff) for this game?

[low valley]

I use the base game textures and materials for the internals.

I am currently writing documentation on the game’s unity components.

Be warned: you will require a good amount of Unity experience.

[rich igloo]

is the one on nomm the latest version

or do i download from the github?

[rich igloo]

was the fix a code fix or a model fix?

[low valley]

github

ill sort out the NOMM version tonight

i indexed the version for this one different as it’s more or less a beta test whilst I dial in the FBW properly for 0.33

[low valley]

Neither

the fix for 0.33 was adjusting some new FBW parameters that were added to stop it from doing The Viper of Agreement

[coral jolt]

NOMM will pull the latest version from NOMNOM registry, I think the auto update is enabled for your repos

so need for new PR every time you have a new release

[rich igloo]

ohhhh i see i see

[coral jolt]

https://github.com/KopterBuzz/NOMNOM/blob/main/modManifests/aryx.f16m.json

[low valley]

Ah nice, I assumed something would have broke because I used 0.0.8 for this release rather than 1.0.8

[coral jolt]

oh that would indeed cause issues

[low valley]

shit

[coral jolt]

since the version is technically lower than the previous

you can just change the tag name

[low valley]

ah good

[coral jolt]

and the next hourly update will pull it in afterwards

[low valley]

fixed 😎
https://github.com/Aryx3D/Aryx-F-16M/releases/tag/1.0.8

[rose junco]

so where did the auger go?

[low valley]

i messed up with the latest patch after rebuilding my mod environment to 0.33, will be fixed in a few hours

[rose junco]

im gonna take a guess this was already discussed on the discord?

[low valley]

yep

[rich igloo]

can u also increase the gun ammo

to like 750?

[low valley]

irl viper has 520 rounds so i went for closer to that

[rich igloo]

oh actually?

[low valley]

ye

[rich igloo]

dang guess i have skill issue LOL

i keep running out of ammo LOL

[bronze crag]

You got to change the music you're listening to SMH

Gunned down in the street listening to white woman music

[low valley]

Yeah the viper has a precarious balance

it’s got fantastic speed and firepower but not a lot of gun ammo & only has 64 flares and an absolutely awful integrated jammer

glass cannon more or less

gotta be careful if you’re down to just guns

[lyric trench]

this is modern warfare son

guns are a last resort

if you're in gun range then you made a lot of mistakes

[calm bridge]

or you want to get one last kill of that run before scurrying back to base to resupply

[pure ember]

Sounds like a good idea until the IFV you're targeting pilot snipes you

[low valley]

my fav part about doing some viper kill watching is seeing that 90% of my deaths in it are the pilot being killed by the fuselage fuel tank explosion if it gets hit by a 20mm burst or 35 centre of mass

i seldom get pilot sniped but instead obliterated

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1484695512715100231/1494164108604604587/gold.mp4?ex=69e24503&is=69e0f383&hm=06b32c2d3ca27532aa22d769a1d5b7871d1939d2790574b511d8cee33128f6ed&

assbeater and weirdymus bfm shows it well

[prisma iron]

I think it might have been talked about during the dev stream yesterday, but I don't recall how it resolved. Are you thinking of giving the option of an external jammer pod on the viper? And as it is apparently my special interest, does the one in game fit on the centerline pod?

[raven mica]

Aryx tried the jammer, but apparently it was way too overpowered

[prisma iron]

Ah, over corrects from the onboard weak jammer?

[raven mica]

@prisma iron here

[prisma iron]

Oh, I mean the defensive jammer like you can put on the cricket and the helicopters, no the offensive one off the Medusa. IIRC Aryx said yesterday that the onboard jammer is a bit weaker than most, so I wouldn't mind spending a pilon to be able to notch a bit easier given my comparatively huge RCS in the 16.

[raven mica]

Ah, yeah, I'm not sure about that, tbh. It was planned, but idk if Aryx is gonna go through with it, or decide to keep the weak jammer and terrible RCS as the balancing feature for the F-16

[grizzled belfry]

i found that it was one of the most powerful planes when I played it in single player with QOL, FQ106, KAR and BOTE.

especially with the new update using 3 AGM 68s ,3 GBM-500lrs and scythes is very strong.

[prisma iron]

Yea, it is a hell of a loadout

[grizzled belfry]

I always thought that loadout should be nerfed but then the GBM-500lr came out and the 4 GBM-500lr Vortex stealth loadout came out.

Granted I am aware that it is based on the IRL 6 maverick, 4 amraam, 6 500lb cluster bomb loadout for the F-16.

[thorn coyote]

Id say the King is already extremely powerful as it is, and the centerline pylon is just cherry on top. Additional jammer? Yeah, and it becomes busted powerful

[prisma iron]

Sure, I could see it over correcting.

[rose junco]

https://youtu.be/tRyXb85gFKw

[shell cairn]

Jiggly

[low valley]

yeah the tail's being fixed

[bold escarp]

ksp rockets when you forget to add struts be like:

[shell cairn]

Nah just pull the pro AAA developer move and call it a feature

"Dynamic flight model that dynamicaly reacts do damage in a dynamic way"

insta profit

[low valley]

true!

[haughty vessel]

It’s a feature not a bug

[vital laurel]

you change the gun back to 20mm?

[low valley]

it's always been a 20mm

qol messes with it iirc

[vital laurel]

oh thats it I was using qol so it was a 25mm lmfao

nevermind then

[vagrant charm]

how does qol work for you

lol