[0.33] KAR-BOTE Combined Arms

[azure loom]

it worked for me

[potent rain]

thanks

[wooden vector]

fire control isn't needed but lets it target multiple things at once

so its good to include if you can

[austere socket]

lmao, was that an AI carrier? I might see what happens if i put a tow hook on some of the ships to tow around AI ships lmao

[granite trench]

Yes that was an AI carrier that somehow decided the best defensive mechanism against 60+ shards and Dynamos was to beach itself and cause us to spawn inside the mountain

[lusty zodiac]

I spawned as a destroyer on a sinking carrier last night and spawned roughly 200 meters in the air, I did land safely, though

BOTE truly is a mod of all time

[copper narwhal]

how does the resupply for BOTE works?

seems like i call it and nothing ever happen

[lusty zodiac]

it doesn't

currently disabled

[copper narwhal]

ah

[lusty zodiac]

if you want to rearm you either need a player or eject and respawn

next update should remedy the issue if minecrack gets it working

but it'll likely be in form of you controlling your own resupply tarantula

as in, literally controlling it

[unreal agate]

well, i beached my self too with a carrier, and i was basically invincible until all my hardpoints were destroyed, because i couldnt sink, at that point was just a floating island with nothing to do so i had to eject lol

[unreal agate]

much better idea imo, cant wait!

oh @austere socket is ther any way to repair ships at this moment or nah?

[austere socket]

they have a natural damage control which should be working to counteract light damage causing sinking (this is part of the base game ships) but there is no actual way to repair the parts besides it just stopping flooding and it slowly making them more floaty again

[lusty zodiac]

I do hope the base game eventually introduces some way of repairing ships, sucks seeing a stationary ship, with no danger around for like 10 minutes until it finally gets sunken

[austere socket]

might look into it for at least the mod at some point

[lusty zodiac]

sounds good

oh and I'm not sure if you saw, but is it possible to change all the MMR/IRM hardpoints to other guns again next update? I fcking abhore the stupid IR spam from the automatic turrets. Because I know I previously asked you about the destroyer's one in particular

[austere socket]

yeah ill make sure all of the IR turrets have gun alternatives

[lusty zodiac]

awesome, thanks!

[austere socket]

the missile turrets are good against like AGM salvos but they also waste against random things yeah, if i can ever figure out what causes it ill try to fix it

[lusty zodiac]

Yesterday I had them shoot at seemingly nothing, I checked the map instantly to see what they shot at and saw no red line

might've been a munition that just impacted, but yeah, 5 MMRs at seemingly nothing is a bit discouraging to use lol

[austere socket]

i've usually found its around 1 at munitions and 4-5 at aircraft, i might be able to fix it by changing the pK of the missile so it thinks they are better than they actually are, so it fires less, i'll test it

[lusty zodiac]

hopefully that'll fix it, because I do genuinely see the use in them, if they don't constantly spam them

still, I think being able to choose between IR and Turret hardpoints is still a good medium

[unreal agate]

i SO want to turn all the turrets into lasers lol

FUTURE CARRIER

[unreal agate]

even if i have no offense, itd be cool to have a pretty decent defense

[uncut current]

would changing pk of irm prevent other aa like boltstrikes from firing at an aircraft that already has an incoming ir?

[austere socket]

the ship IR turrets already have a copy of the IR missiles so they dont fire off all of them with the 0.2 second refire rate (slowed down in the copy) so it can just be changed there

oh

i see

uh

probably

[uncut current]

(also please make ir turrets direct aim at enemies the leading is so off)

[austere socket]

i think an update broke that yeah

[unreal agate]

for boltstrikes it wouldnt matter since you can just put munitions containers down

but so much more different for ships, which i wish we could rearm from shoreside sources

[austere socket]

yeah the issue with that is then you could just sit there lmao

[unreal agate]

true

[austere socket]

maybe i could add like a munitions bunker clone for ships only, with a delay on rearming if that can be figured out

[uncut current]

naval munitions bunker fob

we are so back

[unreal agate]

or maybe incorporate it into the ship dock? Ship dock itself looks so barren imo haha

[uncut current]

people already just disembark at naval dock repeatedly to spam ashms😭

[austere socket]

real 😭

i tried to have some extra stuff on the ship dock but blueprinter never loaded the models for it for some reason so i just got rid of the extra stuff

up to the mission maker (or fob builder)

[uncut current]

i like the current ship dock honestly

very good for making a runway with like 3 of them

[austere socket]

yeah lmao

[unreal agate]

i just think itd look nice having like a crane or two and some containers on it https://nationalinterest.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Norfolk_1.jpg

[uncut current]

hardened hangars on fob builder

[austere socket]

i excluded those and medium hangars so you couldn't put down a fob with a ship dock and then slowly recreate agrapol airbase somewhere else 😭

i guess with the ship dock you can just sacrifice a player to be an airbase though lmao

[copper narwhal]

ngl, i kinda wanna just use only the hovercraft to effectively play RTS Nuclear Option

[uncut current]

also could you make the lcac vehicle deployment all spawn in front of the door like the msv lads does, the bay vehicles just fling the lcac on multiplayer even at full stop with gear down

[austere socket]

yeah i could probably do that

[copper narwhal]

is it possible to modify the bases to allow the LCAC to spawn in more places? kinda annoying to drive for an hour with sensitive control

[uncut current]

like more airfields that can spawn lcac? you can put medium hangar/naval dock at an airfield in mission editor

[copper narwhal]

thought that is available in quite a few places, i only ever see LCAC in the 2 large bases

[uncut current]

only the main bases have medium hangars

[copper narwhal]

oh

[dapper flare]

thats what I plan to make a submod for, adding Fueltanker Vessel & Ammunition Vessel

Battleship & countervariants of Vesselclasses for both Factions

[lusty zodiac]

Aryx is kinda already adding a lot of ship variations

not playable though, obviously

[uncut current]

is there a guide somewhere on how to make a boat using blueprinter?

[dapper flare]

yeah I talked with Aryx and they are working on that

[lusty zodiac]

Considering the recent developments on Aryx's ships, could there ever be a possibility of some sort of compat/companion mod to allow the use of those ships within BOTE?

Would be pretty neat tbh

[austere socket]

I'm open to adding new ships to BOTE, either directly or allowing for external mods to register so the patches that BOTE uses for the ships can apply to them as well

[ember shore]

Oh baller

[queen swift]

minor suggestion for fobs: make holding down shift place duplicates like in the editor (I just want to build horrible things)

[queen swift]

the loop of

build fob with munitions bunker
get logistics player to resupply
is pretty good, adding a bunker for naval would be like 10 seconds faster than the current loop of just eject rearm

[lusty zodiac]

Can't you do this already? Could've sworn I placed down 3 CRAMs like this today, of course without shift

[dapper flare]

since I suck at Coding myself, it'd be a great deal to have them directly incorporated into BOTE or as sort of sub-mod

[lusty zodiac]

Directly into BOTE seems a bit much, some may just want to use vanilla ships

[uncut current]

the ominous event content switch

[lusty zodiac]

What if you want KAR 180 AGM48's but not Aryx Ships?

I think it's better to keep player agency open and not bundle everything into the event content category

[dapper flare]

yeah that's true, sub-mod it is

[sharp prism]

I was actually gonna ask you at one point if I could get the ship scripts so I could try and make a bote rhib, but I'd need to actually make the model

[ember shore]

I think there’s also a point to be made the other way around - I’d wanna play with say the Andromeda, but not with the 180 AGM. The andromeda is (hopefully?) a reasonably well balanced vehicle, which the 180 AGM ofc is not.

[sleek hatch]

week 2 of asking the dev to fix LCAC vehicle deployment 😔

[waxen portal]

What's wrong with the vehicle deployment?

[sleek hatch]

when you spawn stuff with LCAC the radar tracking breaks. for example you spawn a radar truck and 3 stratolance launchers
the launchers wont fire

or boltstrike using LCAC, it wont track either

anything that uses radar to track targets refuses to fire

[buoyant plover]

radar guided weapons seems to break arbitrarily, in my experience
rather than strictly being always because of the LCAC
some sessions placed radars work fine
others they dont
can be placing them with KAR or BOTE, QOL, or unrestricted weapons, I've yet to myself find a truly connecting factor
Happens to R9 batteries, and RAM45 batteries as well
but also not all the time, it's odd

[sleek hatch]

you can spawn units with QoL?

[buoyant plover]

I think it's QoL that adds a couple more HLT truck options to the Tula, at least
I'm pretty sure the R9 launcher is one of them (or maybe it was the R45 turret?)
I'm pretty sure I first saw them before I started using UW but I'd have to check to be 100% sure

[lusty zodiac]

Yes, occassionally QoL R9's/Ram-45s seem to not work even without using the LCAC at all in that session, unsure why this happens tbh

[mild summit]

my own experience has been them not working even if the known problem things haven't been spawned in at all, removal of bote the only sure way to get player deployed R9's and Ram-45's working again. so I've just been living with it and waiting for the bote update.

[lusty zodiac]

I still don't see what's op about them tbh, they're barely usable on most maps. Terminal control I guess I can see, but escalation you have to drive for so long to even make them work

Might aswell just hop into a jet and be useful, faster and where it actually matters

And if it's PvP, a singular player in a LADS can farm some hefty cash whilst removing... what was it, like 70 or 130 mil or something from the enemy?

I guess you could argue wasting fleet missiles aswell, but again, terminal only

[warm pilot]

Is Argus coming to BOTE any time soon

[lusty zodiac]

next update, yes

[unreal agate]

chill okay? lol its already been beaten to death here, @austere socket has stated NUMEROUS times over the past two weeks it has been fixed in the next update. And it'll release when it they feel like its ready

[lusty zodiac]

Hope the annex gets a slight armor buff or something, I know this is a QoL thing, but partially vanilla, too. You can shoot 12 MMRs at the front of an Annex in QoL and sink it, by hitting under the bridge. It takes an odd angle, sure, but it's still ridiculous you can sink it with damn IR missiles. From what I've tested, replicating this with the Hyperion is impossible

[sleek hatch]

why so aggressive lol
just say it was addressed
never saw the dev answer anything about LCAC being broken

[uncut current]

also boltstrikes do fire

its just separate radar/launchers that dont work

[mild summit]

yeah, if I'm building a defense somewhere, a pile of boltstrikes then a pile of LAD trucks with some IR and cram mixed in generally protects from most things

[dapper flare]

I think you mistyped yourself

[lusty zodiac]

not sure what you meant by yourself, but I accidentally said annex instead of hyperion

fixed

Incase you thought I meant "you can kill yourself with MMRs" no, that's not what I meant, and the Annex is not playable in BOTE yet

You can send 16 MMRs in QoL at an annex from the side or front and it'll sink it

[lusty zodiac]

re-tested it, seems like the turrets aren't targeted anymore, but you're still able to sink it using just MMRs, lol

oh yeah and a thing that's actually an issue right now, the automatic turret, like the 155MM will just shoot the Hyperion Ramp

[sleek hatch]

HUH??? you can???

[mild summit]

the front right SAM turret can as well, I've had that happen

especially with how trigger happy they can be

[lusty zodiac]

Yes, if you angle yourself correctly, you can hit below the bridge, making it catch on fire. If the portion below it catches on fire, it burns other parts, explodes and then sinks. Shooting 16 MMRs even from 6km will do the trick, 4~ will maybe get intercepted

Have to approach from the front right, maybe 15 degrees at most, so it doesn't hit the elevator

[sleek hatch]

im unable to do such
idk how

[lusty zodiac]

will send a youtube vid in a bit

has to be with QoL though, I believe vanilla IR missiles don't track ground targets

[sleek hatch]

correct
i am using QoL

they all always attempt to track under the bridge making it impossible to hit the place you say you have to

[lusty zodiac]

The approach takes some skill and you need to aim your aircraft "infront" of the carrier by a good margin, otherwise they'll hit

[lusty zodiac]

I need to fix my previous message, that was assuming the last QoL or previous-previous update.

you need to hit directly under the bridge, that'll make it catch fire

[lusty zodiac]

https://youtu.be/qFx-6Ux2794?si=GfZiROYdbYKR8XgN

[sleek hatch]

okay wow

[lusty zodiac]

me and my friend have tried sinking the Hyperion like this to no success, he also tried sinking the annex with other ships escorting the carrier, they don't help much tbh, especially if you seaskim

sure, takes some more skill than when we did it, because it would just target the turret and then sink it that way

[sleek hatch]

what bind did you use to speed up the game?

[lusty zodiac]

hold L

you can also go into freecam that way

[sleek hatch]

with your video i was able to do it first try

i was using hyperion not annex lol

[lusty zodiac]

ohhh, yea you can't sink the hyperion that way afaik

But yeah the annex? Made out of cardboard

Can't sink Primevan steal or something along those lines

[sleek hatch]

every day i belive in boscali less and less...

[lusty zodiac]

Hard to believe the Hyperion was supposedly EVEN tankier before 0.33 LMAO

[lusty zodiac]

lol

[dapper flare]

yes thats what i meant oops

[lusty zodiac]

happens

[sleek hatch]

okay yea mmr's are goted in QoL
i just sank a corvette with mmr's only. took 20 to take it down in 3 seconds

[lusty zodiac]

never tried that tbh, curious how few you need

[sleek hatch]

destroyers are immune
shot 120 mmr's and it was fine

[lusty zodiac]

what about frigates and lfd

[sleek hatch]

a tank infact can sink a destroyer

[lusty zodiac]

not too surprising tbh

[sleek hatch]

well apparently this doesnt count as dead but...
best damage i menaged to do

left side of missle bay (front left of the ship)
argus frigate

[sleek hatch]

lfd died from fire spread by hitting front

[lusty zodiac]

BDF truly cannot match Primevan Steel (Stalinium)

[sleek hatch]

genuinely i might desert from bdf
like omg how do you design them so badly

[lusty zodiac]

BDF truly has nothing going for them, even though I prefer BDF over PALA

The NL-98 is the only saving grace

[warm pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/boscali-primeva-primevan-armed-liberation-alliance-nuclear-option-scream-if-you-love-gif-10533205050745718415

[lusty zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/bdf-boscali-boscali-defense-force-scream-if-you-love-scream-if-you-love-bdf-gif-13529709749493055356

[dapper flare]

Pala better anyways

[tepid laurel]

Pale is infact better

[tepid laurel]

i find this weird but i have the feeling the BDF as a weaker carries like the cursor class and annex which arent as heavy and strong compared to to a hyperion class. from my experience i also find it that the BDF navy is weaker then Pala's

like when i play BDF navy gets demolished in the carrier

also,

argus class, annex class and cusor class when?

[uncut current]

bdf is heavily carried by argus in vanilla

[unreal agate]

Soon ™

[lusty zodiac]

PALA has nearly no canonical vehicles so far, but the ifrit is just busted in-game lmao

so it makes up for the lack of PALA vehicles

[tepid laurel]

isnt the ibis one?

[lusty zodiac]

Ibis, Compass, AB4, ifrit I think are confirmed

[tepid laurel]

AB4 is the faster bomber right?

[lusty zodiac]

Yes

[tepid laurel]

aight

cuz i call aklyion or whatever its called fast bomber cuz it was called like that before and i cant remember names recently in nuclear option

[uncut current]

wonder what the g tolerance of kar crews are

[lyric coral]

Pure doodoo fart

[lyric coral]

Also should drop a nuke like that

[lusty zodiac]

You can do that from further away too

[lilac charm]

i killed a destroyer with it once where i dropped the nuke near the riverbank and it had enough blast radius to kill it XD

[queen swift]

it should be 25g no? you die at that in normal planes

[granite trench]

Yeah I tested the Hyperion (no mods) before 0.33 and that thing could eat 68 PAB-250s without sinking and had to be bombed again before it sank

[ember shore]

The problem is once they're in position

They're fine on a strategic level but tactically the magdepth is just kinda utterly absurd

Maybe it's a unique perspective as a rotary wing aviation enthusiast but it also just sorta does helo stuff way better.

Either way, it's a shitpost and it honestly doesn't fit the design space laid out by other units, and hence it being limited to event content makes sense, where say the Andromeda doesn't really.

[buoyant plover]

wanted to change the fob budget with dnspy, and usually it's not that hard
But I can't seem to find where that function is anywhere
is it obfuscated in some way?
Or am I just blind 🥀

I searched in the thread a little but the convo about FOBBuilder was pretty short and I don't at least immediately see anything useful in that function
and searching through the assemblies I can't seem to come up with anything that has worked so far with some testing
the closest I thought I got was with the FOBUIController but that was just a cosmetic change when I tested it, it didn't actually let me place more with the lcac alas

[lusty zodiac]

How does it do helo stuff way better? I just have a HELDS and boom, the 180 agm48s become useless and then I still have 112 lynchpins or 50~ kingpings I can use

They're so slow unless you're close, they travel at like 400km/h at best if shot from 12 km

my point is, the thing sucks and is utterly expensive for what it does

extremely good if close to something, very good at saturating ships (like the corvettes coming from vigil cay) but that's about it

the only massive use I see in them, is wasting ship based SAMs

[lyric coral]

180 ATGMs guided solely based on datalink

How is that not a bad idea?

Not to mention that it can basically be resupplied instantly

Even if it ain’t overpowered, the lag or the possibility of crashing because of it makes it essentially broken for the worst

[lusty zodiac]

That I can agree with, though the DL doesn't matter, you're still barely in range of stuff half the time

the lag is a much worse painpoint

[lilac charm]

okay dumb place to ask maybe but i cant for the life of me find aryx ship mod anywhere, do you happen to have a link to the channel or github?

[lusty zodiac]

#1490876028040777879 message

discord link is in the message

[lilac charm]

that doesnt look like a boat XD

ah found their discord link in there, thanks

[lusty zodiac]

👍🏻

[unreal agate]

What ship mod?

Don't they only make aircraft?

[lusty zodiac]

She infact, does not only make aircraft

of course they're not playable, but they are functional

[amber granite]

Something i thought whether or not to suggest for a long time:

When someone dies to a collision - it would be cool to list the g-force involved

[tepid laurel]

i thought that vehicle with a nuke was a joke. guess it wasnt one

[wooden vector]

I mean its a joke but it's functional and in the game.

[hardy galleon]

suprise your enemies low fliers with an atomic suprise!

[proper bloom]

How do I deploy vehicles with the BOTE mod?

[unreal agate]

#1488992920316018788 message

[lusty zodiac]

Set the keybinds

[sleek hatch]

uhhhhh cant move or eject
im stuck
spawned as LCAC on a sinking carrier, spawned me underwater

[wooden vector]

In this situation I'd try just deploy all your stored units without opening the cargo door.

Should get airborne and most likely kill you

[lusty zodiac]

funny solution to a funny problem

[desert delta]

submarines mod confirmed

[sleek hatch]

yea i did it but didnt work

i looked around the settings and tried the wheel options and selected eject which worked

[sleek hatch]

LCAC is the new submarine type

[desert delta]

everything is submarine if you apply enough 68s

[lusty zodiac]

I need the argus so bad...

[spark ruin]

get a dynamo and give it the same loadout smh

[valid obsidian]

use the radial menu to eject

[dapper flare]

i need bote update so bad...

[naive iris]

i need kar update so bad..

[dapper flare]

that too so bad...

[sand hatch]

No dont update it

[dapper flare]

and whys that

[lusty zodiac]

KAR is mostly feature complete

[sleek hatch]

what about integration with mods that add vehicles...
like the MC-260's artillery?

[dapper flare]

Primeva 2082 exists and will add what is """missing"""

will add, as in its not even out yet

[uncut current]

is there a way to select what camera modes are present in kar? i would like to have less angles to cycle through

[desert delta]

QoL has a bunch of cool vehicles but those are not deployable (map editor only). Big sad.

[ashen trail]

Is there any good way to get rid of the FOB deploy screen if you die with it up?

Besides restarting the game that is

[austere socket]

i keep fixingit not going away and it keeps coming back 😭

but no (i should add a way to get rid of it probably)

[uncut current]

keybind to refresh all ui on screen🔥

[ashen trail]

Sorry 👍 Would a log help?

Oooh, I'll try that next time Otsu

[uncut current]

no thats not a thing yet

[austere socket]

lmao

[ashen trail]

Oh lol

[austere socket]

log probably isn't needed i think i know what the issue is, i might have fixed it but not in the release version yet so ill test it

[dapper flare]

https://tenor.com/view/immortal-updates-the-isle-gpo-gameupdates-gif-17625207819546184679

[austere socket]

+2weeks

[dapper flare]

goddamn it

[uncut current]

paired with ternion release

[ashen trail]

o7 It's appreciated, I just need to be more careful when I host the server

I keep thinking 'I can get the fob down before I die'

and I'm wrong

every time

[dapper flare]

Let others build a FOB

[ashen trail]

They don't want to build fobs, they want to boat

[uncut current]

you can attempt going into vaious menus and trying to click the clear fob button

but i dont think it works when you die?

[ashen trail]

Yea.

[dapper flare]

Ah so they dont wanna do the labour but want to eat the Grapes

got it

[ashen trail]

Yup ^_^

[dapper flare]

lazy mfs

[uncut current]

people will get pissed at you whether or not you place fobs lmao

[ashen trail]

Eh, it's okay. I do like building the base. I just wish I was better at figuring out spawning so I can rinse and repeat the hover craft better faster

to load the fob down

[dapper flare]

My only complaint is that I cannot get the lcac moving lol

[austere socket]

customaxis 1

[ashen trail]

OH!

[austere socket]

ibis controls

[ashen trail]

Yes, I had that problem too. What Tyler said 🙂

[dapper flare]

Oh for fcks sake...

[austere socket]

lmao

[uncut current]

bro

[austere socket]

every time

[uncut current]

you really just didnt ask until now

[dapper flare]

Yeah

[ashen trail]

What does the normal throttle do on the LCS?

[dapper flare]

Even with flightstick configured

i didnt check keybinds

[austere socket]

throttle doesnt do anything on the LCAC, its customaxis because they are literally the ibis fans ripped off and reskinned and the code for them only checks customaxis

[ashen trail]

Aaaa

[uncut current]

you should uhh

make throttle make you levitate

[austere socket]

lmao

[ashen trail]

That would be cool, so you can raise floating level up or down?

[austere socket]

unidentified flying LCAC

[ashen trail]

LCAC at.... 4000?!

[dapper flare]

place a ship doc up there

[ashen trail]

Ship falling damage -sucks-

[uncut current]

ship docks already float occasionally

[ashen trail]

I've killed myself launching from a dock I thought was placed well and splashed down

[dapper flare]

yeah but not at 4k alt

Oh yeah theres another hillarious thing when 2 ppl try to spawn a ship at the same time at the same dock

[austere socket]

the ships snap to water on spawn anyways so it doesnt really help

[dapper flare]

it'll glitch you out & crash the game

[austere socket]

😭

[dapper flare]

and you can no longer join the match

[uncut current]

the 1 guy placing a dock on feldspar every game

[dapper flare]

until u change ur name

[austere socket]

what the hell

that one i might need logs for chief lmao

[uncut current]

it gives you the local client stopped

but for that you kinda just

wait like 5 mins

[dapper flare]

I could try to replicate it

[austere socket]

i mean if it ever happens naturally just send it over

[dapper flare]

ok bet

[austere socket]

i have enough stuff i need to actually do work on and fix 😭

[uncut current]

ive found that restarting steam/game/changing mods/doing literally nothing makes you wait about the same amount of time before you can join server again

[dapper flare]

changing the name lets you rejoin faster

either I am hallucinating it or it was just coincidence

twice

[uncut current]

steam name or the callsign mod?

[dapper flare]

callsign mod

[uncut current]

ah i dont have that mod

[dapper flare]

useful for me because I have edgelord unicode characters in my Steamname

[ashen trail]

Callsign mod? That sounds cool. In Nom?

[dapper flare]

Yes, it lets you change your name ingame (requires restart)

[austere socket]

oh also for anyone who wants to use the railgun or other long range guns in general, this was discovered in testing, but if you are at long range (eg firing again before the 1st shell lands) there is an issue where the game will switch the observed bullet on the turret to that new bullet, which means it will never get to see where they land. This means the turrets built in aim adjustment doesn't work, so try firing, waiting for it to land, firing again, etc and the shots should get a lot more accurate

[ashen trail]

What's the mod called?

[dapper flare]

noted

[dapper flare]

lemme check

[ashen trail]

Thanks!

[austere socket]

walking your shots onto target that way can be remarkably accurate eventually

[ashen trail]

Oh! Thanks

[dapper flare]

makes sense as to why I am undershooting like crazy with the Railgun

[granite trench]

Oh yeah since we’re reporting bugs, not sure if it is the LCAC doesn’t auto-eject you if you get critically damaged/BSOD, or in another case it was either Medusa jamming/ARAD missile, apparently either of those scenarios resulting in some pretty bad screen glitching/white screen before crash or backing out (I think I was unable to eject in either case?)

[granite trench]

Example of screen tearing from LCAC death (you cannot eject to fix, you need to eject before "death")

Also brand new strat of levitating IRM-S1 emplacement (the AI still bombs them)

[fleet lagoon]

Quick question how do I get the aircraft to fly off my carrier instead of going backwards and just crashing in the water also how does the resupply work cause I called it in and nothing happened

[exotic night]

How do you even drive these inflatable landing crafts?

I press W and nothing happens

[exotic night]

You must bind keys to those controls go to Settings - Controls, - bind keys, scroll down to BOTE and there you find the controls to spawn and launch Aircrafts

Also any news if we're gonna get Argus DDG??

[fleet lagoon]

The keys are working, it's just when the aircraft spawns in it starts going the wrong way and falls off the ship

[exotic night]

Need to test that

Currently at work, I'll see if that happens to me as well

[granite trench]

You need to read the pinned README but anyways its basically Ibis fan blades and rudder only

Pretty fun as well, except for the Stratolance/Radar bug which I think is QoL induced?

[proper badge]

Argus is a frigate, so it's FFG (Frigate, Guided Missile)
Dynamo gets DDG because it's a destroyer (+G is from guided missile again)

[exotic night]

Mbmb

So bote support when?

Hope it gets a railgun

[proper badge]

you can spawn as a Dynamo with its rail or swap the Dynamo's main mount for an O/U twin gun 127mm turret

I'd assume argus or at least the new STOVL/VTOL carrier is soon though

BOTE Argus seems like it'd be difficult to balance around in comparison to the BOTE Dynamo which is already kinda cracked

probably end up as a mid price option though and a similar twin gun 127mm to make it at least better than BOTE Shard (which gets the Argus's actual 127mm)

[lusty zodiac]

Argus will be in the next update. Unsure if tyler is going to add the annex/lfd yet, given the work that's been going on for the resupply mechanic

[uncut current]

argus twin 127 has the potential to look so much better than the dynamo twin 127

[kind crow]

we need batlleships

[exotic night]

I saw the polls, Argus is coming next

[raw tide]

how do you place a fob from a laning craft

what button is it

[lusty zodiac]

Yes... that's why I said will

[dapper flare]

sail at a specified speed between 60kmh - 75kmh

not a single jet went for a swim for me

[fleet lagoon]

I was stationary 😅

And seems like the problem fixed itself

So it's random

[dapper flare]

wont always work for me at least

[dapper flare]

& resupply AI is disabled from what i know

[quaint nimbus]

It will
The poll is just who will get added first, with the rest later

[raw tide]

thx

[lusty zodiac]

I'm glad people are reiterating what I said

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1486563120339095674/1496669140767870999/1263913448056815669.gif

[unreal agate]

Should have a NO version of helldivers can't read meme

[amber granite]

Happened to me in a destroyer

[uncut current]

can happen in any vehicle including vanilla aircraft if you die violently enough

[rain cliff]

Until they evantually get the FS-3 🙏

[kind crow]

their new trainer vtol looks really cool

[lusty zodiac]

great, the trainer vtol to match the ifrit 😭

[kind crow]

im sure by the time factions get faction specific aircraft each will have its own competitor

cant wair for PALA EW aircraft

[dapper flare]

i want that B1 lancer inspired awacs fr

[kind crow]

I want stealth Cessna

[unreal agate]

My kind of dream aircraft for this game, and I'm willing to commission it, would be the f-14-21

[static ledge]

so how do i get bote to work? i cannot spawn any ships, they're there to select but i can't actually spawn them

[unreal agate]

For everything but the carrier, you need to be either at a ship dock or Spawn from the Dynamo or Hyperion carrier

And only ship docks can spawn carriers

[static ledge]

and where are the ship docks? i can't find them

[unreal agate]

Gotta have a KAR+BOTE custom mission or place them yourself in the mission editor. And if you spawn with the LCAC in game, you can build a FOB with one.

Refer to the top pin for that, I made a tutorial to spawn carriers but works with any ship

[static ledge]

ohh ok thank you

and another question, i need a fob truck on the lcac to build things right?

[sleek hatch]

Correct

[sleek hatch]

But not the truck
The first option in the menu is fob
You must have that to build

[static ledge]

Ah ok thanks

[ashen trail]

Found a maybe bug? The MSV with AGM68 x8 will say it reloads, and cost money when near a hardened ammo bunker, but not actually reload its missiles.

[desert delta]

How did you make boltstrikes droppable

[proper bloom]

M1 AGDS style turret on top of Type-12 chassis.

12x RAM-45, 2x 30mm from Aerosentry

[lusty zodiac]

Someone on Aryx's discord is working on an f14 styled plane

[valid sparrow]

I'll happily wait until thats out lol

[buoyant jolt]

are R9's bugged or do they simply suck ingame

[jade glade]

Kinda both

[lusty zodiac]

former

[lilac charm]

combination of both. Because they are bugged. they suck, unless you have the perfect engagement paramters

i noticed they are stupidly reliable at taking out tuskos and tbm's

but for aircraft, ill take the 98's cus they dont cosplay submarines

[lusty zodiac]

The NL-98s are also kinda superior in terms of ability to kill over terrain, since they're DL missiles

I kinda just sit in the middle of escalation sometimes in a corv/destroyer and fling NL-98s everywhere that sometimes even kill ifrits from like 30+ km away

[buoyant jolt]

ground based ram45's are somewhat good

not sure why the R9s suck so bad at tracking

should be the other way around

[red pebble]

Bugged when the LCAC is spawned at all in game and wont work

[sharp cloak]

ANyone else not having ships show up to spawn in as? O.o

[lusty zodiac]

update blueprinter

unless you mean they're not there at all? In which case you didn't install the mod/bepinex

[exotic night]

Switch to NL-98

[exotic night]

You need certain BOTE+KAR maps, you'll find them in the workshop

I want more BOTE missions

[sharp cloak]

Ohh, so I can't use the default maps? Ah ha, thanks! 🙂

[wooden vector]

you can spawn them in default maps but its more restrictive. Carriers can spawn dynamos and shards, Dynamos can spawn shards.

And you can spawn a landing craft at a carrier and some large airports to create a ship dock that can spawn carriers/dynamos/shards

But you'll have to buy them with money unless you go into the mission files to place factories for them

[sharp cloak]

Hmm, I must be doing something tootally wrong then, cuse I see the tanks, but not the ships at all: Like so

[wooden vector]

you have installed KAR but not BOTE

there are 2 mods

#1488992920316018788 message

its right below the first post =3

[sharp cloak]

Man, I'm so silly, thanks!! 😄

[warm pilot]

You can make a custom mission and modify it (add in ship docks and etc, tie them into existing or new bases)

Meaning you could modify a round of Escalation on Heartland to be more compatible with your mods

That's how I do it lol

[sharp cloak]

Yeah, I really need to start using the editor, I've only been playing the game for about a month now so I'm still learning the systems. I'm glad it's so accessible for moding and creating. Way easier than DCS. Pffk.

[warm pilot]

DCS is...

Purgatory

It's where the war thunder air vets go

After gaijin abandons them

[rotund tulip]

i have problem, i cant show right now cause not on correct PC, but i can spawn kar anywhere, is greyed out, escalation, confrontation, terminal control, all

i have 0.33

[wooden vector]

update blueprinter mod

[rotund tulip]

aight thnx

[lilac charm]

or the people who enjoy a cockpit simulator (aka me)

[exotic night]

BOTE mod best mod

[charred barn]

anyone got any cool screenshots for kar/bote?

[lilac charm]

i still need to take some ngl

[exotic night]

Hope it helps

[exotic night]

I'm still waiting for Argus in BOTE

[dapper flare]

same

[hearty pulsar]

Not screenshot but small clip wish there would be a replay system

[hushed inlet]

when flying T12

[dapper flare]

Doesnt Nuclear Option Black box mod exist?

[lilac charm]

yeah it does, it creates tacview files

(altho when i used it, my performance tanked(logically) and just kept freezing when trying to spawn)

[dapper flare]

https://tenor.com/view/ricolino-scolari-gif-25352670

[spare orbit]

I wonder if they gonna add modded ships to this mod

[spark ruin]

possible but depends if minecrack does it

[tawdry shadow]

dont have any screenies of the hyperion or corvette sadly

[dapper flare]

https://tenor.com/view/immortal-updates-the-isle-gpo-gameupdates-gif-17625207819546184679

[unreal agate]

soon ™

[lusty zodiac]

that's what tyler would like you to think

he's actually just keeping the update all to himself

[dapper flare]

he deleted it all

[deft valley]

only one because i like the type 12 (i'll do one for the spearhead eventually)

[unreal agate]

i think ya missed the meme lol

soon with the trademark logo means its not lol

been a thing in the dcs servers

[obsidian nest]

is this timeline still real Tyler? I'm so fkn keen for argus BOTE

[uncut current]

+1 week

[unreal agate]

https://tenor.com/view/incredibles-bob-parr-the-incredibles-gif-7194125

[hearty pulsar]

the development wisdom: it is ready when its ready

[ashen trail]

Everytime someone asks it becomes another week delayed

[clear matrix]

I am probably being a moron, but I can't find anywhere that'll let me spawn a ship

how do I do this?

im on a workshop map that specifically says it supports the mod too

[desert delta]

other ships

[clear matrix]

Any ship type in particular? its greyed on on all the ships in this map, but theres no large ones like hyperions, which is why I ask

nvm got it, that map wasnt supporting it properly

[lusty zodiac]

if that's the case, you want to see which airports have shipdocks

or if they've added custom spawnpoints at the sea

hyperion can only spawn at shipdocks

[lilac charm]

shipdocks with air center

not just any ship dock

[lusty zodiac]

I am very keenly aware

but the person in question asked about a compatible map

that combatible map should simply have shipdocks attached to an airbase

I was NOT talking about the LCAC

I was excited for a BOTE update, but instead I get this as a ping

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1486563120339095674/1496669140767870999/1263913448056815669.gif

f*ck my chuddy life

[dapper flare]

rip

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1486563120339095674/1504691319342239834/Primmy.gif

[lusty zodiac]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/714231026183962726/1219713894457671771/20240319_142607.gif?width=509&height=904

[dapper flare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1119136019166539796/1479677808543269006/WoeByScytheUponThy.gif

[uncut current]

they dont even ping for updates in here do they

[lusty zodiac]

Ping no, I guess. But tyler does post the update here, too

at least he has in the past

[dapper flare]

He does & in P2082 aswell

[tepid laurel]

i feel u

[quiet crater]

why is my game saying that there are no hangars for the ships at all? even when trying to spawn on the carrier
idk what im doing wrong but i cant drive the ships

[lusty zodiac]

Outdated bote

Update it

[lusty zodiac]

Also make sure blueprinter is updated

[chrome osprey]

is it normal to not be engaged like at all by other enemy naval forces when im in a shard??

not even ground stuff shoot at me

[lusty zodiac]

no, that's not normal

[crisp quest]

idk i don't think i've ever had aircraft or ships attack me when i'm in a dynamo

[lusty zodiac]

That is very odd, because they absolutely have attacked me and I've played with the newest version of everything just recently

I've literally been sunk by another corvette, trading kills with it like 2 days ago

have faced 0 issues with being targeted

[crisp quest]

other players right alongside me in ships of their own have been attacked, so I'm not sure what the deal is

seems inconsistent

[lusty zodiac]

heard some issue with MP targeting forgot what it was

maybe other players sometimes don't get targeted? Unsure, but my friend was sunken yesterday and I was the host there aswell

[crisp quest]

in the bote version of breakout on the workshop I tend to pick a dynamo and I've always just charged straight into the strait by SBGA without taking a hit

i wonder what could cause that sort of thing

[lusty zodiac]

yeah can't say I've ever not been targeted

And I've used BOTE a lot

50+ runs bare minimum

not entirely sure sadly

[crisp quest]

next time I use kar/bote in multiplayer with some other folks i'll pay attention to who is getting attacked

maybe it can be figured out

[lusty zodiac]

yeah again, when I was hosting I didn't have an issue being targeted, and my friend who joined also didn't have an issue. Not sure what the reason could be

if it happens again I recommend getting the log of the mission session for minecracktyler, prolly a good idea

[crisp quest]

i'm still waiting on tyler to fix the bug with my chicane gun whenever bote is installed...

seems the bug fixes got held up by the new ships

[heady gulch]

Why am I seeing you everywhere I go

[crisp quest]

i dunno i just saw a bug i knew about so i commented here

[heady gulch]

Get out of my walls Zookers.

Or pay rent

[lusty zodiac]

I do wonder when we're going to get the BOTE update

[dapper flare]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-idk-really-gif-11611432075508357589

[lusty zodiac]

idk...............

[dapper flare]

https://tenor.com/view/kaicenat-update-week-jjs-crying-gif-15745270725871437209

[hard rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/the-update-is-just-right-gif-18287615594352687577

[lusty zodiac]

Oh boy, I'll watch this until I see said corner!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1486563120339095674/1496669140767870999/1263913448056815669.gif

[tepid laurel]

i guess not, usually its not ground or naval that attacks its air

but they are supposed to engage

they do engage me when there nothing distracting them

[austere socket]

i can maybe see the reason being that the player ships technically are worth less to the targeting algorithm since they need to be cheaper so players can actually afford them, so that might be part of the problem, especially if other ships are around that are not player controlled

[buoyant plover]

Usually at the very least I'll always have their railguns firing at me
But it does feel like player controlled ships are weirdly low priority

[sleek hatch]

Asking for update! When update!?
||(Asking so it doesnt happen muahahaha)||

[lusty zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/update-update-is-tomorrow-gif-2143560552895271969

[hearty pulsar]

Is the bug known that the 127mm on the dynamo in multiplayer servers sometimes dont fire their shells you hear the firing audio but there is no shell had 1 shell come out from the whole mag ones

[untold haven]

this is a vanilla desync issue that can happen with any weapon

[hearty pulsar]

ohh ok

[paper wagon]

In my case he sometime firing 2 times shoot moment when he must do it one time

[hearty pulsar]

Oh jeah I saw that to on the shard the most

[ashen trail]

Is there any way to have a dock deploy hovercraft on land? Every time I try they clip through the ground.

[austere socket]

dont place it on land lmao its a ship dock not a land dock

(medium hangars can spawn LCAC on land, although they spawn behind it due to certain circumstances that actually I think i can fix so)

[ashen trail]

Oh! Good to know that thanks.

I was trying to hide the dock and make it just a LCAC spawn, but that's better 🙂

[austere socket]

i see

they snap to the water to get around the issues with spawning on other ships, but I guess i could disable it for the dock, no reason it is needed there I think

[ashen trail]

No I mean, that makes sense if they can also launch from medium hangers. Completely solves that problem.

Also I think I've seen several maps where that snapping behaviour is used to get the LCAC and other ships safely on water. 🙂

[austere socket]

fair enough

[ashen trail]

Is there any flag specially needed for this? Unable to spawn with one of these.

[austere socket]

mm

it should just work

[ashen trail]

I'll keep poking.

[austere socket]

ccan you try with one of the built it medium hangars at like agrapol or maris or something?

just to see

[ashen trail]

Nada

[austere socket]

maris airport, not heliport

helipads cannot spawn them

[ashen trail]

Ah whoops

I had put a medium there - At maris airbase it does work

[austere socket]

ok i'll look into why it doesnt work with custom ones then

[ashen trail]

If it helps it does indeed spawn behind

[austere socket]

the hangar you put down is linked to the airbase right?

[ashen trail]

-_-

Let me get my dunce cap

Ty

I linked it to maris airbase not the heli

[austere socket]

real

[ashen trail]

Sorry for the bother and thanks

[austere socket]

all good

[uncut current]

rn its like a 50/50 whether a floating dock spawns players in the air so it might as well be disabled lol

[woeful remnant]

i approve of this mod

[pallid pawn]

when are we getting subs and battleships?

[dapper flare]

Subs will never ever be added to the Game, not in Vanilla nor as a Mod as they would be incredibly unbalanced

But Battleships is what I am currently working on (design wise)

[pallid pawn]

too op how so?

i find there is balance in everything being op

[dapper flare]

no current counter to Submarines, Gameplay would be 5x more boring while being in a Sub, nor is there any current way to operate vehicles underwater

even if you would add a counter, adding a Submarine as a vehicle wouldnt be possible

as any munition that touches water is splashed

Even Mitch said that Torpedoes would be slow asf

[pallid pawn]

ah fair enough as far as operating goes but i think itd be fun to drop augers from an ifrit and try to overpressure kill subs

splash meaning deleted im guessing

[dapper flare]

yea I feel you, would want Submarines too but gameplay wise it wouldnt be fun in the slightest

[frank plover]

I feel like it might also spread development too thin to start implementing those and working on making them fit

[dapper flare]

even if you would make Subs as AI controlled Nuke launchers only

[pallid pawn]

valid

[frank plover]

Staying focussed on mostly revolving around flight keeps the core identity of the game strong and helps with the relatively small team's passion project stay on course I think

[dapper flare]

meanwhile Modders can live out their dreams

[pallid pawn]

thank you

[wooden vector]

Battleships would be great. I'd also love just a gun cruiser (SAMs and artillery)

[exotic night]

Speaking of LCAC, I have no idea how to move them cause when I press W or S it doesn't move forward

Only spin on the spot

[ashen trail]

Second axis, like the transport helicopter

ibis controls

[sleek hatch]

arrows
it uses same thrust as ibis

[limber pasture]

Ohh, I wondered why that vehicle felt weird when I used it on a modded server.

[dapper flare]

Tyler be like:

(no hate ily)

[lusty zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-idk-really-gif-11611432075508357589

[ancient pike]

It feels like I have less AI planes in the air because they keep spawning in ground vehicles and driving around dying in the woods. Does anyone else have this problem?

[lusty marsh]

so i have 3 chicanes in my destroyer, but im not sure how to like...'use' them

anyway, wish some servers ran the mod, but even in single player it's def a different experience and works well

[wooden vector]

check the bote specifc controls added to the bottom of your keybinds

[ember shore]

Sorry I just realized I've never actually answered this.

The HELDS is not part of either the KAR or BOTE mod and hence not really part of this conversation.

Notably, iirc the 180×AGM truck does gain native access to a laser defense turret.

Either way, the AGM-48 is generally the primary general purpose armament of helicopters - of which they also cannot carry particularly many.

Helicopters are also innately slowly much like the truck is, tho not quite as slow. Still, they share the fact that neither is an effective rapid response asset, and their practical speeds aren't that different.

The chief difference is that the truck can carry magnitudes more AGMs then a helo, which gives it massively outsized time on station.

[lusty zodiac]

It is tho

The truck has a 120kW laser

In KAR

[ember shore]

Yea, it’s not on the Helo tho.

And it works against munitions from both

The higher missile volume from the truck significantly improves odds of penetrating point defense, also

[lusty zodiac]

Oh yea, saw what I said, mb. Regardless, the 120kW truck does more than good enough if you use it correctly

I can probably make a video about it, if you want

[ember shore]

Oh the 120kw truck is great lol

This was about the 180 AGM truck vs Helos in effectiveness

[lusty zodiac]

Yee

I used a mod that isn't related as a point before

Pretty moot

[compact plume]

this and an unrestricted weapon mod

[lusty zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-idk-really-gif-11611432075508357589

[lilac charm]

i thought of it myself, run a server with KAR, BOTE, and thr main aircraft mods, but the server eill just never fill up

[lusty zodiac]

Because people just don't have the same mods as you

Plenty of times people in this discord in particular host via VC's and the servers usually fill up

There's demand, just half the time without organizing it, people will either lack the F-16, Chimera, not have the ternion, not use QoL, or maybe not like KAR, and a singular mod will just make your server not show up (and obviously not be compatible with their modset anyway)

[vital compass]

It's something you'll have to plan ahead of time, and let people know what mods to have active.

[ancient pike]

Are the AI pilots supposed to buy vehicles on their own and drive them? In my games they eventually stop flying planes and only use ground vehicles it feels like so the air game falls off

Actually might be because of the equalizer mod now that I am doing some reading

[charred barn]

AI dont have drivers licenses and shouldnt be allowed to drive lol

[ancient pike]

Yeah I have discovered it might be a mod conflict

It added some DMV's for the npcs to do their driver's tests

and they are all bad drivers

[wooden vector]

Yes, Equalizer will give AI access to the KAR vehicles and they are not set up to be able to use them.

So they get stuck all over the place.

Consider Equalizer mod and KAR to be soft incompatible basically.

like it'll run, but the games won't be good

[ancient pike]

Will AI use modded aircraft on their own without equalizer?

[wooden vector]

if you add factories to produce the modded aircraft to the mission yes.

[ancient pike]

Equalizer has config settings it seems for ground vehicles so I will mess with those and see if they stop using ground vehicles or if I have to remove equalizer instead

[wooden vector]

Oh ye I haven' messed with the settings in it much. if it lets you disable certain chassis, just disabling all the KAR ones should fix the issue

[ancient pike]

It seems to have done so. So if anyone else runs into my issue it seems the config settings for KAR vehicles in the equalizer mod menu fixes it

What was happening is I spectated Altercation with 4 pilots on each side, and 3 would get planes and one would hop in a tank and drive down the runway, now after messing with the settings all 4 are in planes and modded aircraft are being picked without having to make each mission have factories. so problem solved!

[ancient pike]

GLA Postal Service

[desert delta]

Took wrong vehicle

[compact plume]

that is a very slow truck

oh my goodness i have found the fastest vehicel i can place this on

[lilac charm]

i know, but its the reason why servers just dont run it. You would just be running an empty server

hell id run one myself but its just not worth it for a 24/7 dedicated server

[lusty zodiac]

you can't host dedicated modded servers

afaik

[lilac charm]

you can

[lusty zodiac]

said who?

[lilac charm]

my dedicated server, i have experimented with it for when i wanna run it with friends

[lusty zodiac]

Does it run QoL?

[lilac charm]

im not aware of any incompatibilities

[lusty zodiac]

odd, last time I saw something about dedicated not being possible with QoL

[lilac charm]

as far as i know, i can shove any mod on there and call it a day

[lusty zodiac]

maybe that was an edge case scenario, unsure

[lilac charm]

could just be a QOL issue

[crisp quest]

it's possible QOL has something additional going on that prevents it from being used on dedicated servers, but the aryx mods/ternion/kar/bote all work just fine on dedicated servers

well, we ran into an incompatibility with the f-16

but other than that it's been fine

[lusty zodiac]

I mean, all things considered, modding NO is like a niche of a niche

[lilac charm]

when i got it started up, i didnt run QOL because i personally dont like it. but when i ran KAR, BOTE, f16, chimera, mig15, etc it worked fine

[lusty zodiac]

the game's playerbase is very small

BOTE is as "unbalanced" as QoL lol

so idk, personal taste I guess

I prefer fun over taking things too seriously, and I'm a decent player

[lilac charm]

yeah fair enough, i just dislike how much random stuff QOL adds. But to each their own in how they enjoy the game

[crisp quest]

lately there's always a few people on our modded dedicated server during the day actually

people just have to know they exist

[lusty zodiac]

(and prefer the same type of mods)

[crisp quest]

i mean if qol doesn't work it doesn't work

we use the ones that work

[lusty zodiac]

Though I do get it, my biggest gripe with QoL is: HELDS (Lasers) and deploying a fck load of AA at an airfield

[lusty zodiac]

of course, but there's a load of other mods people may not prefer, I'm not talking about QoL exclusively here

[crisp quest]

well we don't seem to have population issues really

it isn't like 20 people or anything but

[lilac charm]

its just indeed with how niche NO already is, you are diving into a niche inside of a niche, and then you have to find people who wanna play the exact same mods

[crisp quest]

there's people in there playing whenever i check lately

[lusty zodiac]

yeah low active playerbase

[crisp quest]

so i find the statements about it being impossible to run modded servers because nobody would join confusing basically

it does not appear to be true

[lilac charm]

it would be wayyy easier if you had servers still show up if you are missing mods but you would get an error with which mods you miss. (Ik thats asking a lot from the devs so im not too pressed that its not there)

[crisp quest]

i agree, it'd be nice if the server browser showed modded servers in a different way so that you could hunt down what you needed to play on them

atm we advertise in the regular servers and direct people to a discord with the exact list of mods they need

sorta cumbersome

[wooden vector]

The bug where you swap to manual gearing while >150kph and gear down to -1 to bug out the engine power still works if you want to go really fast with your demo bomb

It tends to lose control around 300-400 kph tho

[lusty zodiac]

and then if another two servers pop up, there will be no more players to house lol

Not a lot of people play this game, that's a simple fact

For 1 or 2 modded servers? You'll prolly find some people. Anything beyond that, it'll start thinning out

gentle reminder, this is a niche game

I like NO, it just simply doesn't have the playerbase, to have a ton of modded servers, given how many people play vanilla actively

[crisp quest]

right, and this is a different statement you're making now than you did earlier

where you said it can't be done

it can obviously be done

we are perhaps just one of those one or two servers

nothing prevents it

[lusty zodiac]

I said it was likely impossible with QoL did I not?

[crisp quest]

no

[lusty zodiac]

And then the conversation continued

where it was clearly clarified that you can

and I clearly stated I wasn't unsure, and asked

and I was then proven wrong, so idk what you're talking about

anyway, possible yes, feasible to upkeep, probably not

[crisp quest]

i mean you kept on replying to me trying to explain why it couldn't be done

but it is being done

[lusty zodiac]

where?

[crisp quest]

critzOS is hosting a kar/bote modded server

[lusty zodiac]

that's not what I meant

I can't see a singular message where I explicitly told you it can't be done after

if you interpreted it as such, that wasn't what I meant

I simply prefaced the preference of players and how getting the right people is already hard enough

I didn't say it was impossible

Where do I have this belief anyway lol, I know people play modded

#1488992920316018788 message

[crisp quest]

i am still only on the topic of dedicated modded servers

the quote i am replying to is still visible if you scroll up slightly

[lusty zodiac]

Yes, idk why you keep going back to a singular message that I already said was untrue and was fixed later on

by the conversation we were having

I was either wrong (or only partially right) about QoL not functioning with dedicated servers

[hard rampart]

https://klipy.com/gifs/update-is-fake--k01KS78HR8A7XJCR014MM0MXHVW

[lyric coral]

That’s the “LADS” if I’m right

[lusty zodiac]

Yea

[dapper flare]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-cancelled-gif-9661562198263154049

[smoky cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-idk-really-gif-11611432075508357589

[elder finch]

how do u spawn in bote

[lusty marsh]

pick a mission with spawns created for botes....there's a few on the workshop

[lusty marsh]

oh, and bigger botes can spawn smaller botes, like a dynamo can be spawned on to get a shard

[lusty zodiac]

#1488992920316018788 message

[hard rampart]

https://klipy.com/gifs/update-is-almost-ready-alien

[dapper flare]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-maybe-today-gif-10280981816589226009

[charred barn]

Update? What update?

[sharp prism]

date

[paper wagon]

Update?
What you wanna update??
This mods feels cool right now!

Any ideas what you wanna see next?

[vital pollen]

I hate to do this to all of us but @austere socket I have found another bug, it seems that every time you spawn a aircraft on the Dynamo and the Hyperion it -1's the vehicle count for the faction which very quickly sends the available plane count into the negatives and makes it practically impossible for those planes to be spawned ever again as the missions factories build them quite slowly.

[austere socket]

what

oh do you mean like from the AI spawner

[vital pollen]

When you are the ship

[austere socket]

and use the spawner

[vital pollen]

Yeah

[austere socket]

logic must have changed with an update then, thanks

added to the list™

[dapper flare]

Bote

[lusty zodiac]

Boghog keeps delaying the update 🥀

[obtuse dew]

first time here, is it possible to pick up on a hoist hook a frien that is inside a ground unit?

[desert delta]

sadly no

[queen swift]

conversely, in boats spawning units duplicates the ship for some reason as non host, this is reliable enough to get rapid cash infusion with the hyperion into the tens of billions

[austere socket]

what the hell

[queen swift]

ok nvm, this is actually a bug with the chimera (I think) 😭 im giving false info

[crisp quest]

it's that guy who keeps playing as submarines in our matches!

subterranes?

what's the word for a ship that travels beneath the earth

[austere socket]

that might be an issue with bote

[dapper niche]

that is defo bote

[austere socket]

oh i think i know, it has some logic to return it outside of normal parameters so you can actually easily get it back with higher speeds or longer ranges, but i guess if you still meet the original requirements it still returns it normally maybe

hence you get two

just fixed

[crisp quest]

yeah they also donated like 9 billion dollars to the team last night which was surprising

[austere socket]

the primevan economy hates this one simple trick

[queen swift]

megathonk

for some reason it only works as host with the mc-260 installed

[austere socket]

idk but i can see the logic flaw so i've hopefully fixed it either way

[warm rock]

The resupply for ships is currently bugged right? If i read correctly

[austere socket]

no guarantee that the AI will actually work correctly yeah

if you do try it, i would stop the ship before it arrives, assuming it actually goes the correct direction at all

[dusty nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/kingpin-spider-man-spiderverse-into-the-spiderverse-clicking-gif-8798937323542139102

[dapper flare]

me

[limber pasture]

Must Argus Bote.

[lusty zodiac]

[hearty pulsar]

is there a way to edit the BOTE file so the NL-98 on the dynamo fire quicker ??

[lilac apex]

i feel like i do not understand how this mod works cuz i have not been able to find out how to use or select any units lmao

[austere socket]

check the most recent 2 pinned messages, they can both explain a decent amount

[lilac apex]

thanks, it helped! mod is pretty cool and capable

[faint river]

they should switch the directions the ships spawn in to the opposit direction

[austere socket]

it will be like that in the next update

[warm rock]

Not sure if it’s a BOTE related issue, NO issue, or if the R9 is just pure dookie but sometimes when launching from any of the 3 ships, the R9 will flat spin after launch and hit the water.

Also, with the QOL mod having added R6 Longswords to ships, is there a way to implement that as well when selecting loadouts? Or is that not possible due to being 2 separate mods

[austere socket]

r9 is fixed in the next update, it was a bote issue but NO's fault its weird, and R6's would be up to qol to add

[open citrus]

i wonder if the ressuply mechanic will be fixed as well or reworked

[dapper flare]

https://tenor.com/view/update-no-update-no-more-updates-gif-3470407786722281006

[hard rampart]

https://klipy.com/gifs/update-is-fake

[lusty zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-idk-really-gif-11611432075508357589

[sharp prism]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-not-today-gif-7325159549174239381

[quaint coyote]

For BOTE, Is the V.1.3.2(the version with the OP weapons) compatible with 0.33?

[sinful gyro]

I miss my shard with the HGM-600

[quaint coyote]

Actually lemme test that real quick

[north sphinx]

Is it only me experiencing a situation where the vehicles are tryna drive themselves on their own?

Im literally fighting the controls to stop the ground vehicles from just driving wherever

[lusty zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/update-game-game-update-gif-13330659533985679719

[amber granite]

Check throttle

[north sphinx]

what do you mean throttle

oh

oh

Shift inputs can move the vehicle??

Proobably the reason then

[north sphinx]

Okay hell no it was NOT the throttle

The vehicles still tend to just brake or accelarate on their own with zero inputs

better yet, sometimes I get launched left or right off the road

Literally zero A/D or mouse inputs and I go flying

And for a moment the tank will not respond to braking or other commands

[hard rampart]

https://klipy.com/gifs/update-is-fake

[cobalt cypress]

it happens, had an LCV drive itself like it wanted to fly off the mountain range I spawned in

[lusty zodiac]

If you're going very fast that's normal

If it happens at lower speeds, then that's not normal

[night surge]

Auto throttle and auto gears can lead to your vehicle just.. Reversing suddenly for no reason other then autogear switching from N to R for zero reason

[sleek hatch]

if you have autopilot mod check the menu and make sure GCAS is off

even if the autopilot is disengaged that is

it just has to be off

[dapper flare]

https://tenor.com/view/black-panther-update-wakanda-forever-yibambe-out-gif-15435310302061938937

[exotic night]

Being positive is better

[dapper flare]

i love spreading misinformation

[exotic night]

https://tenor.com/view/persona-persona3-persona-3-persona-3-reload-misinformation-gif-2736390499350685280

[lusty zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/update-game-game-update-gif-13330659533985679719

[hard rampart]

https://klipy.com/gifs/update-is-cancelled

[clear bramble]

https://klipy.com/gifs/update-is-fake--k01KS78HR8A7XJCR014MM0MXHVW

[faint river]

ne bote droped

is there any chance they may be added to the mod?🙏

[marble minnow]

iirc modded ships are up to the (ship's) modder or some capable of making a submod to add

[kind crow]

i didnt even realise there were modded ships lol

[limber pasture]

Submods will eventually happen just give it time.

If I was knowledgable in coding I would but yeah.. not enough time.

Holy crap is that a tiny ship in there?

Hell yes Ayrx.

I love tiny boats

[ancient pike]

anyone know how to deploy vehicles from the LCAC? I hit g/lower gear and the ramp comes down but idk how to make vehicles drive out

[uncut current]

bote adds new keybinds

[ancient pike]

Thank you kindly

[flint swan]

You do not understand how complex the inner workings of bote actually are

[faint river]

well, if they add them they add them

[charred barn]

I wouldn't expect modded units to be added before vanilla units

[faint river]

ok

[dapper flare]

Bote isnt even updated yet to fix some Bugs nor was the Argus & Annex added, I am still waiting for that

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-not-today-gif-7325159549174239381

[faint river]

i was just about to ask about that

[misty veldt]

keep in mind they way BOTE and KAR work is by making 'planes' that happen to be on the ground or at sea, so adding anything would be a similar amount of work as adding a custom modded plane i think

[quiet crater]

does anyone know why as a landing craft i can spawn in but not move?
all other KAR-BOTE stuff works and my other modded aircrtaft but not the landing craft?

i know its bound to the same thing as the ibis and its fans but im not sure how

[crisp quest]

custom axis in your keybinds should just work

arrow keys up/down

unless you've rebound em

[quiet crater]

i cant find it

which axis?

[somber halo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825281791950323759/1398855063488958545/caption.gif

[tulip spire]

Awesome mod, just started dipping my toes into it (and the game generally). This mod is a big part of my decision to buy this game. It would be nice if there were some KAR/BOTE missions included that had carriers and/or shipyards in them already (the 2 KAR single player missions included have neither) 👍

[sharp prism]

There are workshop missions that include ships and docks thankfully

[sharp prism]

Arrow up and down keys

[cobalt cypress]

plus any vanilla missions with carriers are not too bad, maybe I'd play with them through the Editor to change the positions if you want

[sharp prism]

Custom axis #1 and #2 if i recall

[sharp prism]

The Ignus map is pretty decent but its 100% better for bote

You can't really fight as a kar unless you get a brave soul with a LCAC

Now this does get me thinking, how will fighting be like on the new map?

[limber pasture]

Since its all land id love to see how KAR feels there.

[sharp prism]

I think suddenly people who play as AA only will be very valued

especially as SHORAD

[wooden vector]

T12 with a railgun + 20kw laser will beat up any ship that comes within like 25km of the shore.

though it may run out of ammo if trying to kill a carrier

[lusty zodiac]

Better ways to kill a BOTE, regardless, RGMs kind of cant be intercepted with the 20kW

so if you're datalinked you're kinda dead

you can probably trade with a corvette, though

[wooden vector]

you do rely a lot on having terrain to avoid missiles yes

[hard rampart]

https://klipy.com/gifs/update-is-cancelled

[lusty zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/oye-cat-enough-stop-petting-gif-8639785326678511628

[night elk]

how does one spawn a ground vehicle? I feel like it’s obvious but i can’t figure it out

[unreal cove]

at any spawn point click one from the row of ground vehicles at the top

[unreal cove]

forgot the reply

[night elk]

not seeing them, that’s the problem

[unreal cove]

did you update your blueprinter?

[night elk]

i thought i did but ill check

[night elk]

forgot the kar file lol

thanks dude!

still struggling to drive the hover craft though. can steer but can’t go forward or backward

[austere socket]

customaxis 1, same as ibis controls

[night elk]

ah, got ya

[tulip spire]

This should be pinned i reckon. I had to scroll through this thread to find the same answer myself.

[left forum]

What should I do, please tell me?

[untold haven]

update blueprinter

[left forum]

Is there any way to remove this waiting?

[left forum]

where can I get it

?

[lusty zodiac]

Hangar busy can be outdated BOTE aswell

[left forum]

can you give me a new one

???

[charred barn]

https://github.com/nikkorap/NOBlueprinter-Releases/releases/latest
https://github.com/MinecrackTyler/BoscaliOceanTrainingExercise/releases/latest
https://github.com/nikkorap/NOBlueprinter-kar/releases/latest

[lusty zodiac]

I do have to mention this. "All hangars for this aircraft are currently in use" tends to be a BOTE being outdated issue. "Not available here" is a Blueprinter issue

for some reason, I've seen a lot of people have 1.3.0 BOTE which causes that issue in particular

[charred barn]

ah right, ill just chuck all the links here again

[lusty zodiac]

They're in the pins anyway iirc

[charred barn]

yup

[pulsar glacier]

I usually just throw RAM-45-As and IRM-S2s on a truck and start driving

[cobalt cypress]

You can, I usually just slap a 155mm Cannon on the back of an MSV for indirect, then a Boltstrike on a Linebacker

[sharp prism]

wdym is that some kinda other mod

like unrestricted weapons

[cobalt cypress]

oh yeah

forgot I had that

that makes sense now

[sharp prism]

yea you should clarify that lol

[cobalt cypress]

mb lol

[sharp prism]

all good i was just a bit stumped about that

but another fella not in the know may be disappointed at that

but yea the truck mounts C-RAM, 80kw, R9, Radar + 4 jammers, laser defense thingymajig and a ammo crate, FOB, helipad and uhhhh

idk what else on it's flatbed/container

[steep lake]

So, not sure what this is, but whenever I have the main gun slot filled, the ship launches itself into the air, or otherwise self-destructs. Also, the process of launching sorties from the Hyperion causes it to self-destruct. I have a suspicion its my modstack, though I've cycled though them and can't seem to figure out which one it might be.

[spice copper]

A friend of mine just installed the mod and his controls are inverted. Mine aren't though, but I can't see any obvious way that I fixed it

[hybrid patio]

he probably has his axis inverted in the settings

[spice copper]

No, they look identical to mine in how they are set up

Ah never mind

[regal relic]

for the low low price of deploying 2 HSV Munitions trucks, you too can have your very own space program!

(they get stuck inside you, causing you to hover above the ground, and when they eventually explode from the colissions you will go flying :3)

[cobalt cypress]

a Flying LCAC doesn't exist, it can't hurt you

a Flying LCAC:

[lusty zodiac]

can't match spawning 200 meters in the air as a destroyer

[slate crow]

are the links in the start of the thread up to date

[cobalt cypress]

you can check the releases section if you're on the latest release

[slate crow]

im downloading for da first time

so i get NOMM first

[cobalt cypress]

I think NOMM fetches the latest version of mods

so I think you'll be good whether you use NOMM or the github links

[slate crow]

oh alr

does it also get their requirtments

like Belpn

[cobalt cypress]

nope

you'll have to install BepInEx manually

[slate crow]

oh ok ok

thanks

[silver spindle]

i cant shoot some weapons off of ships with unrestricted weapons, ie longswords turn on weapon saftey when i switch to it, is there a fix

[desert delta]

There is no "fix" since it's unintended use, and WeaponSafetyUnlock mod which can mitigate it was taken down because of competitive players concerns.

[silver spindle]

is there one that works then?

to remove the safety lock

[desert delta]

Don't think so

[silver spindle]

what weapons are able to shoot from naval ships without locking the weapon lock

[misty veldt]

i second this bug, i tried setting up a strato battery and it got stuck

[lusty zodiac]

already reported

BOTE is expecting an update that fixes a lot of issues, LCAC included

[hard rampart]

https://klipy.com/gifs/update-is-fake

[dapper flare]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-today-update-is-tomorrow-update-wakanda-tchalla-gif-5630318163439022771

[kind crow]

who's making all these?

[lusty zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-not-today-gif-7325159549174239381

[exotic night]

beautiful ship, if only we could play it

[atomic sinew]

Man, I would love it if the mod makers could just continue to make us free content without constantly getting passive-aggresive comments

Put the 126mm turret and nl98's on your shard/dynamo if you're really so desperate

[obsidian nest]

People make content that nobody comments on, the dream is to have people comment on it... You ain't completely wrong tho (I'm dying to play argus)

[atomic sinew]

I am also very much looking forward to it! And I trust it will be done when it is done

[exotic night]

I remember being the first one to tell Tyler the R9 was broken, I usually test stuff when I have the time

for some reason installing QoL fixed the R9

[lusty zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/the-update-is-just-right-gif-18287615594352687577

[rotund tulip]

you want it so bad why not make it yourself? or just...wait

[exotic night]

I'm an engineer, not a coder

[rotund tulip]

then dont complain ig?

[exotic night]

I didn't complain

[rotund tulip]

little difference

[exotic night]

I'm simply waiting, I didn't complain. I always told Tyler to take his time

[limber pasture]

I dont understand how that's passive aggressive

[slate crow]

are you still fighting 😭

[lusty zodiac]

yup

[lusty zodiac]

same

[slate crow]

the FS-20 vortex be jumping everyone

[limber pasture]

Well it is a stealth air superiority fighter

lol

[austere socket]

Update is.....
REAL

https://github.com/MinecrackTyler/BoscaliOceanTrainingExercise/releases/latest

BOTE 1.4.0

• Argus Class Frigate

• Annex Class Carrier

• Cursor Class LFD

• CAMERA SWAP SYSTEM

  • Use controls defined below to swap camera points while in cockpit view
  • 2-3 points on all ships
  • All ships include external cockpit viewpoint for better visibility

• SINGLEPLAYER ONLY:

  • Resupply - Player, swaps you to the resupply tarantula when it takes off, and back when it is destroyed or you eject from it, except a small delay for initial swap
  • Emergency Swap key, press semicolon, will swap you to targeted aircraft, friendly only, use if any bugs happen with the above system (or just for fun)

• CONTROLS:

• Moved to new category: BOTE, rebinding required
  

• New Controls:
  

  • Call Resupply - Player, explained above
  • Next Camera - Swap to next cockpit camera
  • Previous Camera, Swap to previous cockpit camera
  • Removed unused controls

[charred barn]

big if true

[gentle fern]

YOO

BOTE UPDATE

[knotty scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/black-panther-update-wakanda-forever-yibambe-out-gif-15435310302061938937

[tulip ether]

Easy on the CIWS.

Holy feth.

[gentle fern]

LCAC GPO-n

THE LCAC HAS A GPO-N??

[tulip ether]

Game breaking bug, the Frigate has a k instead of g... Can't play the game. 🙂

[gentle fern]

is the LCAC r9 bug fixed?

[austere socket]

(its part of the bit)

[austere socket]

yes

[crisp quest]

is the bug preventing me from using my chicane turret to knife-fight fixed? (this is important)

[gentle fern]

Nice!