[0.33] KAR-BOTE Combined Arms

[desert delta]

4 tuskos instead may be ok. They behave normally on KAR vehicles, four of them won't slam even through Boltstrike, but it's fun to wreck incoming convoys or incapacitated ships with it.

[grave nimbus]

I love driving a UGV over hills at F1 speeds

It would be cool if a future update added the Mk.II Eyeball as an option since as a ground vehicle you can't do much for spotting

[hazy hedge]

does anyone know approximately when will kar and bote get fixed?

[cinder trail]

nope

[uncut mortar]

dude it's a niche mod for singleplayer / multiplayer

I'm not saying it should be unbalanced, but I also don't think everything has to be handicapped purely because it'd be too strong or smth

[hearty pulsar]

am gonna give the average dev answer.. it is ready when its ready

[lyric coral]

So make the ground vehicles reasonably strong aside from the 180 missiles worth of aids

Also the 152 clearly isn’t strong enough

[fleet ridge]

Hopefully 152mm will have cluster munitions.

[gloomy sleet]

how

what is that truck

and how is it working with 0.33

[uncut mortar]

:v

We already got missile trucks coming up, and it's only 2026

And that's on a Fuchs

[open citrus]

kars work in 3.3, with a bit of goofy stuff like being able to put too many defenses where you shouldn't be able to do so. but boats don't work at all sadly

[hazy hedge]

its not that good

like yeah 180 is a lot but the range is like what 15km but sometimes it doesnt wanna work above 12

[uncut mortar]

152 just like

Struggles with low elevations for me

Taking out air defenses etc is a dream, but anything near 2-3km etc is too near

[knotty flint]

anytime i try to spawn in it tells me that all hangars for this aircraft are curently in use, anybody know a fix for that?

[sturdy zealot]

does the bote work?

[lyric coral]

Currently being updated to fix that (mod it outdated as per [0.32] tag)

[gleaming cosmos]

mod is not working (yet) after 0.33 release

[knotty flint]

ohh alright, thank you!

[knotty flint]

does anybody know when the new version for it releases?

[cinder trail]

no eta

work is underway

[austere socket]

not really suprising

[jade jungle]

i was one of the few who voted for the Cursor

[austere socket]

i dont even know what to put on that thing to make it interesting, i guess it will be the fastest ship capable of launching a real aircraft

however rest assured all will come in due time

[icy grotto]

It kind of has unused VLS on the sides

[austere socket]

huh

ill take a look at it

[spare orbit]

Lowkey would make sense to have it deploy from other ships somewhat

It is meant to be a lighter annex, and it is lowkey pretty small in all areas

[plain meteor]

Argus has a pretty good "cockpit" view

[half timber]

Why not ALL??

[sharp prism]

,

[fleet ridge]

Next BOTE should be 0.33 class Developmental Barge not Argus class Frigate.

[hard zephyr]

Imagine rolling up into battle with the LFD-62 W I D E B O I

[half timber]

Oh okay

[verbal dawn]

wouldnt it be better to just make two mod versions one balanced one not?

[sturdy zealot]

nooo

[sturdy zealot]

Is it possible to pick up kar cars with Tarantula?

[spark ruin]

if a plane is possible to pick up

then so should be the cars

since they count as aircraft the last time ichecked

[lyric coral]

Breaks car and the laws of physics

[spark ruin]

wow

[lyric coral]

Tho it should be a thing tho

[spark ruin]

tho tho

[hardy gyro]

have the mods been updated to the newest version?

[spark ruin]

no

[night sorrel]

Kar sorta works, but less stable

Overall its functional but weapon exclusions don't really work (e.g. you can take heavy subturrets on normal ones for t12 or spearhead launchers with 152mm turret)

BOTE prevents you from spawning at all

Oh, also collision feels bit more finicky for kars

[stuck sand]

Following

[hearty badge]

What would be more dangerous?

52 ALND-4?
Or 52 Tusko-B?

Or are they about the same?

[night sorrel]

Uhhh
I think tuskos nvm i can't read

[stuck sand]

Definitely the alnd

[hearty badge]

the duality of man

[night sorrel]

Oh wait nvm im atupid

I read ALN as alm

Yeah 52 alnd

[hearty badge]

Round 2:
52 ALND
vs
52 PileDriverHE

[desert delta]

ALNDs are all nuclear? Haven't seen that much warheads

[hazy hedge]

day 2 of waiting for kar and bote 💔

[half timber]

i think i miss my botes and kars

[hearty badge]

Yeah, not often to see 52 ALNDs.
But I need to know their relative effectiveness.

[hazy hedge]

i miss them so much i started flying a mig 15 aganist ifrits

[hearty badge]

So, which is more dangerous?
ALND or PileDriverHE?

[hazy hedge]

ALND

[desert delta]

52 piledrivers, can't intercept

[hearty badge]

So 52 ALND would be more dangerous than 52 Piledrivers?

[desert delta]

Even fleet of like 5 dynamos cant

[hearty badge]

Yeah, but what if it was a player Dyno Defending?

[hazy hedge]

unless there is a smart enough player using a ship

like you can intercept em with aa missiles

long before they even get close

[lyric coral]

The tank with Stratolancers:

[desert delta]

Fair. But harder than intercepting ALNDs if those are not coming outta terrain cover

[hearty badge]

This is my current missile PowerScaling Table

Any issues with it?

[lyric coral]

ShipBreaker and SledgeHammer?

[hearty badge]

Bote exclusive weapons

[lyric coral]

What makes them destructive?

[hazy hedge]

well with kar AGM48's were much better from other missiles because there is no way in hell for someone to intercept all 180 of em

[hearty badge]

ShipBreaker is a modified Piledriver that reaches Mach 3 in atmo in a straight line. impossible to intercept by missile if used in sweet spot.
SledgeHammer is a Mach6+ missile with range way larger than any map we have.

I'm mostly interested in medium salvos of them.

[lyric coral]

Both are essentially immune, got it

[hearty badge]

That's why I'm giving a Dynamo R9 VLS count of 52 as a reference.

[hearty badge]

One in near melee, one across the map.

[lyric coral]

Da

[hearty badge]

SledgeHammer CAN be intercepted by scimitars and R9s SOMETIMES.

[lyric coral]

Can the Dynamo lock on to multiple targets?

Aye

[hazy hedge]

if you detect the long range one in time and you can turn so your aa missiles will face em head on they probably can get intercepted

[lyric coral]

The tank with VLS?

Makes life a lot easier

[hearty badge]

All player units act just like the aircraft

[lyric coral]

Danke

[hearty badge]

So you can multifire salvos

[lyric coral]

I meant tracking wise

Essentially

[hearty badge]

Yeah, should work the same other than reduced top speed of the missiles as they are fired from standstill.

[lyric coral]

Aight

[night sorrel]

Depends
Is it against a singular target or airbase/group target?

Group, 52 alnds, alnds are capable of being intercepted by lower end aa (unless terrain) so they are less like to completely overwhelm aa. But even a single one is a serious threat. Whilst even if a dozen piles hit af, the af still can have some stuff left but they are interceptable by R9 and rarely by RAM45.
Singular, like a ship, Piledrivers, as they usually one shot or at least heavily cripple the target so the damage potential is the same but they are much harder to defend against.

TL DR
ALND = more damage potential, easier interception
Piledriver = less raw damage, much harder to intercept

So if it'd be possible, piledriver should have higher threat id for high end spaa (r9/ram45/ships) but lower priority for lower end as they won't be able to intercept it anyway (ir/gun based aa)

[uncut current]

lore accurate HE piledriver being the same id as 20kt

[maiden quail]

.

[lusty zodiac]

Sledgehammers are literally better than 20kt piledrivers. Can't be intercepted by ground based AA if used correctly. Can take out both radars on Ignus with them, Piledrivers just waste money by getting intercepted

[autumn gate]

Shipbreaker and Sledgehammer with the same rating?!? LMAO, the former is almost worthless while the latter is the best missile in the game

No "sweet spot" where they are "impossible to intercept" exists...

[hearty badge]

That's why I posted the draft here, I didn't get enough time with them to know for sure. I just went with them based on their status as mod exclusive.

[hearty badge]

During testing I've had them approach ships while they are above all interception speed limits.
Nothing tried shooting at them.

But this was pre April 1st.
So they may have changed.

Where would you put them on the balance tier list?

[autumn gate]

AD has been iffy depending on unit count when mods are in the mix, as to whether they do anything.
I'm not sure what "interception speed limits" you are referring to. R6 can intercept Axiom/Sledgehammer even when they're flying off-axis to the launch vehicle (at M5+)

Tiering missiles is gonna heavily depend on whether price:performance is being factored in

[hearty badge]

Only performance will be factored in.

This is an attempt to push more towards arena shooter mechanics, where it's a match of Quantity vs Quality on an individual engagement level.

Again, none of this is even likely to be added, it's mostly for brainstorming.

But it's a fun mental experiment which, if fun, MIGHT get added.

[autumn gate]

They aren't competing against most of these missiles for slotting though even if cost isn't a factor, they're competing against all the Dynamo's main gun options and Sledgehammers

I would take the 76mm dually over the Shipbreaker (edit) on the Dynamo always even if they were the same price

[hearty badge]

They can be added to the VLS if needed, that's why I was asking about the missiles themselves, especially in a salvo.

[autumn gate]

Right now I think a wave of 99s or AShMs has a significantly higher PK (or any effect on target) than a pair or quad of Shipbreakers

What has to be considered is when/why/if you would ever be sitting in effective range with them

[hearty badge]

Ok, but what would be better?
12 Tuskos?
Or
12 Shipbreakers?

Vs any target of your choosing?

[autumn gate]

Since we're within 30km, probably the Tuskos. SBs take too long to accel and are vulnerable outside of a particular segment of their attack profile, and only if used inside the right engagement evelope. I'd rather get the missiles in the air, immediately to occupy the enemy's PD

[hearty badge]

Damn. They're really gimped, huh.
I'll have to test them myself some more when I get the chance.

They might need a complete rework

Something like the APM in QoL, but VLS cold launched, and faster accelerating. Higher top speed, etc.

[austere socket]

they used to have normal piledriver drag values before we realized that meant they would sail across half of ignus above mach 2

[autumn gate]

I think it's just a function of how the AD/PD interacts with them, on paper they sound like they should be performing way better
And QoLs increases to Naval defense

[austere socket]

currently dealing with this which is where the update is lmao

the unity project exploded

[autumn gate]

My thought was perhaps that stealth or physical armoring could help them, since my read of the niche that you guys were going for was something very deadly inside it's range

[austere socket]

that was the intent yeah, they would go pretty fast, and be hard to intercept but only for a short range

[autumn gate]

I imagine onboard (the missile) EW/ECM is outside scope rn, so that's why better stealth is what came to mind as a sort of "simulation" of that

IDK if/in what ways naval jamming could be changing though so my layman takes might end up being pointless

[austere socket]

the boats do currently have a short range jammer that would probably increase the pK of the missile but there are still the IR missiles on most of the boats so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[autumn gate]

Is IR sig all-aspect right now or can you tweak it by component/aspect?

Alternatively does heat produced by a booster heat up the main projectile as much as an integral motor does?

[austere socket]

i probably actually need to look into how missile IR sig works, but i dont think its depending on angle

booster doesnt specifically have a heat sig, but the main projectile has a motor with no effect and one thrust running during the booster stage as there is no built in delay function that wont cause issues, so it can still be tweaked per "stage"

[sturdy shard]

Hope it’s okay to quickly pop in this thread to say thank you to the creators for making these mods and sharing them for free. I hope I speak for many when I say take your time with updating things. KAR still works well enough for me to blow stuff up and every day I get off of work I have this game to look forward to. Y’all rock

[heady gulch]

Hi guys, When I install both BOTE and KAR together, I cant spawn in any vehicle. All airfields and even FOBs say "All Hangers for this vehicle are full..."

any work-around for this? I want to play with both mods enabled and not individually switch between them

[desert delta]

BOTE doesnt work

[uncut current]

unfortunately bote just doesnt work with 0.33

[hazy hedge]

day 3 of no bote

or 4...

[spare orbit]

or 6...

..or 7....

[azure loom]

or tuah

[pure dust]

Bote is currently broken right?

[lone crown]

im chronically depressed as a result of broken bote

[bright wren]

im playing KAR for the first time today so .33 might have broken it but the 152mm guided shells never seem to hit their target they seem to overshoot the target

[runic mango]

They did that in .32 aswell

[keen ore]

Is it normal right now for the Stratolance to just launch into the stratosphere whenever you spawn in it?

[hoary bear]

it's not updated yet

[keen ore]

Got it, thanks.

[exotic night]

Aren't we all?

[exotic night]

Life without BOTE is a life not worth living

[obsidian nest]

Its rough.

[lyric coral]

Exact same

It's hell

[sage rune]

We need it back

[meager dragon]

I hope that BOTE returns with playable Argus and Cursors

[round shell]

how to spawn with the starolance msv

[craggy cipher]

Iirc it's because guns aim to origin point of vics, and my understanding is, way they are made is their origin is underground. Or just on the road. Or somewhat thataway.

[exotic night]

customize an msv with the launcher

[rotund tulip]

i feel like there needs to be a sledgehammer equippable in the darkreach or smth, or the shipbreaker, cause its the same size as the piledriver (for the shipbreaker)

[sage rune]

Isn’t the sledgehammer just the axiom from qol but refitted?

Cuz it’s the same desc and card model

[rotund tulip]

i havent used QOL in a bit cause it messes with other mods

idrk

[sage rune]

Lwk haven’t used any mods in a bit

But we are ALL waiting for kar and bote

[rotund tulip]

yez

[sage rune]

[rotund tulip]

the AB-4 has held me over until now

[sage rune]

Anyways when it updates I’m prolly gonna download it and play it with my friends

[sage rune]

Don’t forget abt the 32 AGM-99 in the darkreach

shard class corvette 13.9 ahh payload

[rotund tulip]

indeed

-# me in the corner with the RELOAD mod

[sage rune]

Uhhhh

What abt the auger spam?

[rotund tulip]

i prefer the 500 LR spam ngl

i should try auger tho

[sage rune]

The 500lr like vaporizes the landing ships and convoys

No need for reload

[rotund tulip]

i know, but overkill is funny

[sage rune]

I guess

[rotund tulip]

i like spawning fireworks on top of shard ships

[sage rune]

eyeball spam

It’s just a Mach 1 rocket at that point

[round shell]

what are the control for bote

[sage rune]

S is forward W is back and A and D are turning

If you have a joystick then push it in the direction you wanna go

[spark ruin]

guys where do the boats spawn

where can i spawn in on

one

[uncut current]

fob with naval dock built with lcac

or the carrier

[spark ruin]

what

can i do it in mission editor

[uncut current]

you can spawn dynamo and shard on the carriers

[spark ruin]

yeah

but

how do i make a airbase for boats

?

[uncut current]

put a naval dock on it

the lcac can build fobs

[spark ruin]

so i need the dock thing in mission editor

[uncut current]

im not sure if the dock connects to the airbase properly in mission editor

[spark ruin]

it does

i tested it

[uncut current]

👍

[spark ruin]

yeah works now

nice

[rotund tulip]

in an official escalation or smth you gotta wait until the carrier spawns, then spawn the small boat and drop the boat fob on a shore (i think) then you can spawn any boats

basically any missions with a carrier i think

[tepid laurel]

fixed? nice

[misty veldt]

is there a way to revert my game version back to 0.32 so i can play this awsome mod again?

[exotic night]

yes and it's pretty complicated, use Steam DB

[lone crown]

real af

[uncut current]

not fixed for 0.33, the guy reverted to 0.32 to play bote

[austere socket]

https://github.com/MinecrackTyler/BoscaliOceanTrainingExercise/releases/tag/v1.3.4
0.33 Compatible, small changes, no new content, that will be coming in the next updates

[keen ore]

Whooo!

[lusty zodiac]

BOTE my beloved...

[keen ore]

This will be my first time using Bote-

[austere socket]

hopefully stuff works, but due to the update and some stuff with the project some stuff may be worse, better, not consistent with base game, etc

one item of note is the scimitar is currently old stats, which means no HOJ, future updates will address these issues

[keen ore]

Quick question, how exactly DO I bote?

[austere socket]

like install it or?

[keen ore]

Use it-

[austere socket]

install mod, then spawn bote in game when you get enough money like any other aircraft

all botes can be spawned from the ship dock, or from ships larger than them (argus/cursor excluded, as that is new and does not have any bote spawns yet)

hyperion is dock only

[keen ore]

Beg pardon, not being specific enough. Where exactly can I spawn botes?

I know you can make FOBs with LCAC, but where else?

[lusty zodiac]

Carriers at Docks, Destroyers at Carriers, Corvettes at Destroyers and Carriers

All ships are available at docks

[keen ore]

On which maps are docks available?

[lusty zodiac]

docks can be made with the LCAC via the FOB system

[austere socket]

Docks are dependent on the mission

there are a few on the workshop with added docks to base game missions like terminal control

Example: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3700231977&searchtext=

[keen ore]

Got it, was trying to use Bote on vanilla Escalation-

[glad imp]

Is car coming at some point or is that a different creator?

[austere socket]

Nikkorap manages that one for the most part, I dont have much to say but there is an update coming at some point

[maiden quail]

installed the new ver and now nothing can deal damage to eachother

is anyone else having the same problems

[austere socket]

what weapons are you using?

send AppData/LocalLow/Shockfront/NuclearOption/Player.log

[maiden quail]

57, MMR, 20mm, lasers, Stratos, and RIM-45

on the visby

[austere socket]

wacky

[maiden quail]

gimmie a sec I just hopped off the server

app data where?

[austere socket]

C:\Users\<YourUsername>\AppData ?

[maiden quail]

nothing

[keen ore]

You'll also want to navigate to View -> Show -> Hidden Items

[austere socket]

oh yeah

[maiden quail]

player prev?

[austere socket]

just player, if it exists

[maiden quail]

want me to dm it to you?

[austere socket]

sure

[maiden quail]

my friends on the server are also having the same problem

bout to test on a solo tho

[light geyser]

I'm guessing issues with the missiles would NOT be a BOTE issue?

So far my AShM-300s are flying under the water lol

[austere socket]

tell me if it works in solo, i cant imagine what i could have done that would stop all damage though

not really myself able to test in MP easily though so its possible

[light geyser]

Just tested Stratos, also trying to fly under the water but do have collision

[austere socket]

Ok just sanity checked myself, does work in SP over here, so either another mod or MP issue

[austere socket]

the cruise missiles from a BOTE?

[maiden quail]

?

[austere socket]

uh

[light geyser]

Yes!

[austere socket]

yeah that aint supposed to happen chief

[light geyser]

I'm gonna try unloading all mods except for BOTE rq

[austere socket]

Could be an issue from bote, the ship launched cruise missiles are actually different from the normal ones for the booster, so if something was changed in the update it wouldn't have applied to them, I can take a look at it

Ok if someone ehre gets a chance, ping me, I will then host a lobby with just BOTE and blueprinter only, to test something

[maiden quail]

its not a mod issue

mp issue ig

[austere socket]

😭

[light geyser]

Okay the AShM-300s are working with only BOTE, the Stratos still love taking a dive tho 😅

[austere socket]

thats funky, because the stratolances are the normal base game ones lol

[austere socket]

could you launch with only BOTE and join a lobby i will put up on pala side, will be called testing?

[maiden quail]

ok

[keen ore]

Might be a mod issue

[maiden quail]

should I keep my client side mods or nah

[austere socket]

yeah not getting that over here so not sure what is causing it to happen 😭

try without other mods first

[keen ore]

Taking of cher-

[austere socket]

lobby up

[maiden quail]

only these plus bote?

[austere socket]

should be good

[keen ore]

Solely with bote. First one up is the Kar-Bote Escalation Map

The second is the vanilla Terminal Control map

[austere socket]

what other mods do you have loaded?

[keen ore]

Blueprinter, I think

[austere socket]

just that and bote?

[keen ore]

And not using blueprinter just breaks everything, so I can't just do pure Bote

[austere socket]

yeah BP is needed for bote

[keen ore]

I also noticed that the hypersonic missiles had the same color as the windings-

And.. they disappeared almost immediately after launch.

But I have no clue whether that's correllated or not, could be talkin' out my ass here.

[austere socket]

why is everything working fine for me 😭

[light geyser]

Looks like the missile issues are NOTT

[keen ore]

What setup are you running?

[austere socket]

aha

may have found the issue

for the text at least

[keen ore]

Eureka or Urethra?

[austere socket]

yes

you guys running just DX11 for game on launch?

or dx12/vulkan

[keen ore]

Yep

[austere socket]

ok

wacky because it should only be shipping dx11 shader so if anything it should only not work for like me

but

all 3 included now, project was misconfigured

[keen ore]

Am running on fumes, hopefully testing works out, but must sleep

Good night all, and may the Omnissiah bless your efforts.

[austere socket]

ok got some fixes incoming, i overlooked a few things

[dense torrent]

would maps using KAR stuff function without it (planning on hosting a three person server with friends to dick around with the boats)

[austere socket]

should work mostly, might throw a few errors though

just wont spawn the kar stuff pretty much

[dense torrent]

alright

[austere socket]

if you guys wanna hold on a sec though some stuff is broken currently, in the process of building the fix

(hopefully)

[dense torrent]

I just don't wanna go through the hastle of trying to set up FOBs for ships to spawn from on escalation before the carriers show up-

alr

[austere socket]

there is a terminal control and escalation on the workshop with docks and stuff setup as well that you could use

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3700231977&searchtext=

[dense torrent]

oh that's what I plan on using lol

[austere socket]

cool

[dense torrent]

I was just asking since they had KAR spawns

[tepid laurel]

Just naval fix?

or all of combined arms?

[austere socket]

bote

i dont do kar

go wild https://github.com/MinecrackTyler/BoscaliOceanTrainingExercise/releases/tag/v1.3.5

[tepid laurel]

what does this changes?

[austere socket]

attempts to fix some issues that i just caused

[tepid laurel]

idk what those issues are but either way am about to test if the mod works

[austere socket]

mainly multiplayer i think

[tepid laurel]

cant help with that

[austere socket]

oh and text was purple in certain bote UI due to issue

that should also be fixed

[tepid laurel]

Sir. i havent even deployed and now. DAMN this mod got me already locking in

[exotic night]

Best mod ever

[tepid laurel]

this mod.

is a master peace

Navy

i can survive witouth ground vehicles

but we got ships

i can now wipe an entire squadron as corvette

but now. medusa can actually be feared by players

ok sadly there isnt the 2 new ships

but really the update dropped like 2 days ago

[light geyser]

Okay further testing, when NOTT is installed, the Delivery Checker feature is what's causing the missiles to faceplant and clip underwater

[maiden quail]

just did a round

looks like everything is ok with our mods

weird

[austere socket]

so stuff is working good now then?

nice

[austere socket]

is that a part of NOTT or do you mean the resupply system that is part of bote?

[maiden quail]

er

1.35 still purple

[light geyser]

It's a part of NOTT, it tells if your missiles were intercepted, missed, or hit

[austere socket]

ah

[austere socket]

suboptimal

should just be a text thing perhaps, everything else working fine?

for reference until that gets fixed i guess, its cricket, ibis, chicane, compass, ifrit, medusa

[tropic wind]

hey when I do this the bepinex page keeps spamming error messages is this normal for this mod

[maiden quail]

everything else works just fine tho

how do I control the aircraft I deploy btw

[austere socket]

you dont

ai are incomprehensible

(for now)

[maiden quail]

oh ok

is the host the only person that can launch and call for ai?

[austere socket]

should be everyone

as long as equipped

unless that got busted as well :(

[maiden quail]

it appears to be :(

my friend cant launch or call but I can

[tepid laurel]

how do u even open that?

nvm i found it

[dense torrent]

I love shooting lasers from my radars

[plain meteor]

Electronically steered LIDAR is a thing

[austere socket]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phased-array_optics

phased array laser

[woeful thicket]

the Hovercraft FOB tool seems to only place objects at sea level and ignores terrain height

[austere socket]

snaps to sea level if its in the way, otherwise should snap to terrain

wait

bruh :(

[woeful thicket]

Was trying to test it at maris and everything was placing under the city

[austere socket]

how

add it to the list i guess

well i guess at least the mod loads

[uncut current]

🥹

[tropic wind]

does anyone know why when you spawn as a ship it says all hangars are taken even though they arent

for the ship mod

[dense torrent]

truly, PALA engineering at it's finest

maybe this and the death laser mod was a bad idea

ok so the sun decided to explode after I sank

[light geyser]

LMAO

[uncut current]

lcac no longer available on carriers?

[austere socket]

might be a bug

seems like there are many of those recently :(

[uncut current]

yeah lcac is not spawnable on any ships

naval dock works fine

[open citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[rough wraith]

Did kar get updated?

[valid sparrow]

nope, but bote

[rough wraith]

Mayn what

[exotic night]

Bote got updated, Kar didn't

[rough wraith]

I got that the first time

[spare orbit]

no just bote

[hoary bear]

Nah, but bote did

[azure loom]

bote is all i need...

[hoary bear]

S%#lor

[azure loom]

you cant blame me for loving bote men

its my job

[restive tusk]

What do you think about a nuclear msl on the ships?)

[hoary bear]

Awful

[restive tusk]

Like peldiver

[hoary bear]

Not fun

[restive tusk]

?

[hoary bear]

It's not fun gameplay to just toss piledrivers

[restive tusk]

Okak, then the ALND-4 or smthng like them

But the peldivers are still a good option

[hoary bear]

They're good, but to me, that kind of gameplay is just not fun. It's why you don't get MSV TBM in Kar

[restive tusk]

Okay

[hearty badge]

Alright!
Tier list time!

Please rank the following ship main gun options for G2G:

• SHARD 57mm (upgraded so reload is not needed)
• ANNEX 40mm CIWS (massive range for CIWS)
• ANNEX 76mm (burst)
• ARGUS 127mm
• DYNAMO 155mm Railcannon
• DYNAMO 155mm Railcannon with halved velocity (for higher ballistic arc)

[keen ore]

Help

[spare orbit]

its becoming like gmod

[hearty badge]

The text is currently broken as far as I can tell

[half timber]

no bro

its fine

[hearty badge]

I'll try to see what those were and give a reference list here

[hearty badge]

It just works

[lusty zodiac]

Most likely 127MM due to it being guided munitions, ranked at the top

then 155MM, then 76mm. 40 and 57 are meaningless unless you're close

[hearty badge]

The OTB Cargo reference sheet until the text is fixed.

[real crystal]

rail cannon by far, the others are no match for it

sniping radar stations from afar is cool

[hearty badge]

Same for Dynamo and Hyperion

[pure dust]

why MBT has unlimited supply of AT missiles?

is this cause of update or something?

[wise yarrow]

i finally managed to get the tula to drop a naval container near me but i still dont get an actual resupply?

[exotic night]

wait 1 minute

[pure dust]

why missiles are infinite on vehicles?

[tepid laurel]

yeah there that issue

now we need a better giving order mod

and holy playing as an aircraft carrier would be just mad peak

[spark ruin]

kar when

[exotic night]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-flashbang

[paper wagon]

This is the best meme ever!
Exactly! 🤣
I also very like both of them!

[solid tide]

Is resupply bugged?

I cant pick up the container, nor can i call a second tarantula

[compact nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-mad-cat-mad-gif-617855691051511206

I want to play Kar

[lone crown]

total glorpshit man

[exotic night]

It work, but it's a bit unstable

[livid jasper]

BOTE is still dead?

[charred barn]

lol i say, lmao even

[rough wraith]

You changed the camera positions for tanks?

[hoary bear]

Yuh

[night sorrel]

Nice

[rough wraith]

Nice

[charred barn]

fixed the rendering and clipping issues too :D

[night sorrel]

It was hard to aim turrets when broadsiding/target was behind

[rough wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-14992135277364169509

[peak lion]

https://tenor.com/view/gem-alarm-gem-alert-ring-ring-doorbell-chud-gif-1353273367591808784

[hoary bear]

Ok... but did something change about targeting?

[charred barn]

?

[hoary bear]

It's just that in this position, the "screen" is missing, and i thought maybe an alternative was under way, but i guess this is more just a peek at what's happening

[charred barn]

ah the MFD is still in the drivers view, i tried dragging it along but it looked awful

[hoary bear]

It always did.

I was thinking of doing some kind of fake "gunner view" on a bind tied to rewired, so that you can better see what you're shooting at

But anyway, scope creep

[charred barn]

Yes there are multiple views

[hoary bear]

https://tenor.com/view/red-hearing-peak-gif-185358842424781252

[tepid laurel]

soo true

[spark ruin]

kar when

[deep abyss]

Kar causes that I believe

[spark ruin]

g

[hoary bear]

https://klipy.com/gifs/minor-inconvenience-minor-inconvenience-meme

[red pebble]

afaik bote has been updated for .33 not kar

[charred barn]

Kar is in the shop

[red pebble]

in for maintenance :P

[cinder trail]

sorry I kickflipped the T-12 too hard

it needs repairs

[spark ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/toge-inumaki-shit-yourself-toge-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-17893411161143337473

[cinder trail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27084790

[spark ruin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301321343995740203/1323183793326002186/di1tacz-bbe1c1c7-db29-4f41-add2-1b5177d31279-1.gif

cat beatdown

[exotic night]

You're paying

[hoary bear]

We all are

[exotic night]

There's a problem with the R-9 on Dynamo, especially the VLS on the front, they seem to be launching into the water and lose focus

[spark ruin]

who is we bro

[hoary bear]

Us who wait

[spark ruin]

yo what is this mod bro

[hoary bear]

It's a lorem ipsum mod, and it seems like someone has used the pullrequest to upload something you probably shouldn't download

[spark ruin]

what

[hoary bear]

The text is lorem ipsum

[spark ruin]

what is that

[hoary bear]

Ask google :b

[spark ruin]

placeholder

wow

i downloaded it anyway

[hoary bear]

You should really check the source

[spark ruin]

leads me to literally nothing

[obsidian nest]

How do you figure that? github is 2+ weeks old

[spark ruin]

just check nomm or github

[red pebble]

Primeva has a .33 compatible version of Bote and NOMM has 2 new versions

[obsidian nest]

the 1.3.5 version ?

[red pebble]

Yes

[obsidian nest]

is that with argus ?

[red pebble]

I assume so but i have yet to test

[pure dust]

Missiles are infinite cause update broken it right?

[muted magnet]

how does naval resupply work i waited 5 minutes right next to the container and it did nothing
am i missing something?

[wise yarrow]

Second this

[wise yarrow]

You can’t play as the Argus or Cursor yet afaik

[obsidian nest]

I see, I thought so. Thanks tho n strato too

[rough wraith]

Confrats on your virus

[magic sparrow]

seems like R9 physics got a little change with the 0.33 update? They try to trickshot now

[foggy ivy]

HELP

and my mouse cursor disappeared...

[hoary bear]

the only mod up to date is bote right now

[open citrus]

is it uptodate in the mod manager ? i still have the permanant hangar full message

edit : knvm i'm just stupid and the hangar spots were indeed taken

[pastel island]

I mean, that was pretty cool

[restive tusk]

HASM

It is missing the texture

[fleet ridge]

pink rocket uwu

[uncut current]

did you put both kar and bote dll in plugins\com.nikkorap.blueprinter\addons folder?

it does that when you put the dll directly in plugins folder

[open citrus]

"Crush kill destroy Fish"

[sudden cairn]

how can i spawn in ships

it isnt allowing me to

[uncut current]

you can spawn ships on carriers and destroyers

[sudden cairn]

ah thanks

[open citrus]

oh it's destroyers as well now ?

[uncut current]

destroyers can spawn corvettes

lcac is bugged and only spawnable on pre-placed naval dock in editor

[open citrus]

o. too bad then

[exotic night]

launch through Vulkan

[restive tusk]

And also I wanted to add, that the Dynamo somewhy doesn`t have its amount of r9 also the amount of scythes lacks a half of their real load

And i think the dev could give for its smthng better than Scythes, for example smthng like the R-6 in the QoL mode, the amount should be same with R9, cuz its a little bit strange that the BDF`s navy could make smthng better than R9 on teh ships)

[uncut current]

close enough, welcome back CL-154

[cinder trail]

@austere socket your boats like to trickshot now

[austere socket]

i've realized

[cinder trail]

can you give them a tony hawk pro skater scorecounter

[austere socket]

optimal

i will spend 10 weeks on it and nothing else

[exotic night]

absolutely cursed

[magic sparrow]

Medusas try to land on Dynos?

[bright furnace]

and I thought it was bad when a darkreach tried to land on my hyperion moving it 150km/h but I think this is somehow worse

[austere socket]

i still have no idea why they do that 😭

need to find out what changed i guess

[uncut current]

the darkreach landed on my hyperion with 3 ifrits on the deck

they all got wiped out

[austere socket]

sometimes sacrifices must be made

[uncut current]

thoughts on giving dynamo and argus torpedos

[magic sparrow]

honestly, i don't mind any ai aircraft trying to land on a dyno, it's fun to see them try their hardest only to inevitably eat shit and crashland

[viscid snow]

My favorite kind of entertainment

[dense torrent]

so.. does KAR somewhat work or no?

[lusty zodiac]

Somewhat, yea

So does BOTE, though there's plenty of bugs, as the video above shows, lol

[restive tusk]

The new argus class is op

I have made a personal mission for me and putted it in the ocean, the arguses (there were 4 of them) kicked everything with tehir NL-98 (new OP SAM msl) and 127 guided shells

Teh BOTE needs this

Shells are op

THey can`t be intercepted

[lusty zodiac]

The next update will have the frigatte

[restive tusk]

While they have many damage

I think the 155 mm railgun is worse than that gun

railgun isn`t guided

[restive tusk]

tuff

[solar grove]

I have spent the past few days getting BOTE to work in 0.33. I have it like 98% done

Sorry, used the wrong image last time

[bright furnace]

the hyperions rear cruise missile launcher won't raise making it useless :(

[solid tide]

Would also like to point out, the ssm-26x collides and explodes with the stratosphere when launched at a target at a very large distance, not tested distance but assumed to be like 30km+ maybe

[bright furnace]

update
only refuses to raise for the anti-ship missiles, tuskos are fine I guess

[lusty zodiac]

Sledgehammers are hypersonic, so yes they should go well beyond 30km

[solid tide]

Yes but the point im making is that below 30 ish km, they follow a normal flight path and collide with the target, but above that they literally slam into what is probably a height border and explode

[lusty zodiac]

I didn't misunderstand, I said should

it's most likely a bug, much like a lot of other stuff going on with BOTE right now

[deep abyss]

lots of things are bugged at the moment with kar and bote

pretty sure kar is conflicting with bote

[hoary bear]

kar is not updated, and bote is still being updated

[lusty zodiac]

kar still partially works

though I wouldn't use it myself, until it's updated

[weary hinge]

bote is so playable for me, waiting for KAR to play .33 update.
until that, i will keep playing .32
thanks for the mods

[austere socket]

thanks, thought i fixed it but missed that launcher specifically, the set of them is kinda a mess lmao

[spark ruin]

my computer is fine twin

[spark ruin]

so close yet so far

[valid sparrow]

Will there be an option to build a harbor without a Landingcraft?

[austere socket]

you can place them in the editor as well. For building during a game, maybe, but thats part of the point of the landing craft.
The LCAC will be getting more spawn points in the future (as well as actually having them work at all), like maybe the medium hangars or potentially helipads or something like that

[exotic night]

Seeker logic for Dynamo has been changed (probably) it also affects the AShM-300, how they are supposed to launch and how they are launching

it'll take some time to be fixed

@austere socket also the max speed on the Dynamo used to be 120kmh, now it's 155, isn't that a little excessive?

[royal hinge]

One kilometer per hour for every millimeter of the Dynamo's railgun, seems reasonable enough to me.

[night sorrel]

also, cant launch any aircraft, spawn vehicles from otb31, is this a conflict with other mod or something?

[sturdy zealot]

does bote work rn?

[deep abyss]

Nah

Ts bugged

It runs but its buggy

[muted magnet]

for some reson my FOB got bult a couple hundred meters in the air

[lusty zodiac]

FOB building seems to have elevation issues as of this update

Minecrack already saw the elevation problems, I'm sure it'll get fixed when we get the frigate, or maybe we'll get another hotfix first, idk

[willow scaffold]

is the LCAC not posible to spawn in a carrier?

[lusty zodiac]

Seems like it isn't, not sure if that's intentional tbh. The LCAC was available on the destroyer before aswell, iirc

[willow scaffold]

🙁

[lusty zodiac]

Yea you can only spawn it at a shipdock

[willow scaffold]

how im spawning at shipdock if there is not a LCAC to spaw it?

[lusty zodiac]

Mission editor

[willow scaffold]

oke

[lusty zodiac]

There's also missions in the workshop that have usable shipdocks

(I don't know of any, I just know they exist)

They have to be assigned to an airbase

[fossil vortex]

There's a couple KAR+BOTE versions of vanilla maps on the workshop currently

[undone hound]

am I the only one experiencing ASHMs diving straight into the water upon firing

or that my ashms appear to be infinite

[unreal agate]

is this the mod that lets your drop LADS trailers or c-RAMs with the tarantula? or just any extended drop amount for units really

[hoary bear]

That is QoL

[unreal agate]

oh, sweet! was trying to figure out which one did that, but sadly QOL isnt updated for .33 either, so ill have to wait

[lusty zodiac]

Bote has a lot of issues as of now

[solid tide]

No its an issue with the rear VLS launchers i think? Can only wait till its fixed

[hazy hedge]

SSM-26X missiles are broken

like they launch go up to 30000m and disappear

never to be heard of again

[solid tide]

@hazy hedge

They work if the target is close so the missile doesnt loft as much

[hazy hedge]

oh welp

[dusty nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/clytemnestra-crackhead-stonedman-gif-24406110

fiending like a crackhead for the argus addition to bote...

[obsidian nest]

Hyperion carrier is 154-155 too, I think its just so its not too too boring

[shell path]

so.. I'm currently struggling to download KAR properly, I've looked in the game debug console and it's full of errors regarding HUD loading of KAR. I've followed available guides, could someone help?

[valid sparrow]

kar doesnt work as of 0.33

[lusty zodiac]

it does, partially

[restive tusk]

Why does the R-9 flyes incorectly when launched from the Dynamo

It just flies with zigzag trajectory

[austere socket]

physics changes from the update it seems

its all still very screwy :(

[wise yarrow]

My R9s are acting like they’re part of the Blue Angels and end up crashing face first into the sea

[hazy hedge]

its like a 25% chance theyll launch correctly and hit the target

take ram 45's instead

[shell path]

Aw

[open citrus]

not the only missile that does it. pratically almost all missiles does it when fired from ships

[lusty zodiac]

It works partially

[uncut current]

pretty much every missile ends up turning downwards rn if you fire them at over 90 degrees

so the side/back launchers are just fireworks

[pastel island]

Very expensive fireworks

[plain meteor]

Playing as a Shard in BOTE reminded me of this. No other game is really like it. Does anyone remember playing this?

[misty veldt]

I dont quite reccognize it but does anyone remember crimison skies

[lavish garnet]

The water / wave hopping gameplay in that game were so satisgying

[maiden quail]

how do I collect naval resupplies?

[hazy hedge]

yeah i checked that but at that range its just better to use the close range ones

[sharp prism]

Sail close enough to them

[fickle summit]

If you shoot tuskbos or ashms from carrier one of the launchers doesnt raise up so they just hit the water

(ashms)

specifically its the rearmost launcher

[hazy hedge]

maybe mods conflicting? because i dont have this issue using only bote and kar as mods

[fickle summit]

kar doesnt support 1.33

[hazy hedge]

it works

lol

[fickle summit]

this issue is bote + clientsided mods in 1.33

[hazy hedge]

some stuff is just buggy

but kar works

[quaint nimbus]

bote is updated?
Or still being fixed?

[hazy hedge]

it works with .33 but still buggy

some missiles dont work

and etc

[quaint nimbus]

rip

[hazy hedge]

the latest bote that works with .33

[pure dust]

Are they infinite?

I can shoot missiles but it seems that i never run out of them

[exotic night]

what graphic mod is that

[fickle summit]

its the really cool mod called base graphics at night time

[exotic night]

thanks

[rich jasper]

how can i fix the bug when i launch a missile from a ship it just wiggling around and fall of to the ground?

[fickle summit]

u cant, we just have to wait for upd

[rich jasper]

Thanks alot!

[spark ruin]

it also happens with the 0.32 version so dont worry twin, its just a game issue probably

[hazy hedge]

no but the long range antiship ones for example (forgor the name) fly up and just disappear after reaching 30000m asl, stratolances have like a 70% chance to spin out of control and crash into the water instead of the enemy plane and so on

realism update bdf didnt do maintenance of their missiles

OHH AND

some planes just crash on the carrier

like just either drive off the deck or just desintegrate

especially TA-30's

and medusas

[lusty zodiac]

That is not the same thing at all. One hand minor issues with certain vehicles, like the Destroyer shooting some ASHMs backwards. Here, the R9's do a 360 and then fall into the water. This is caused by the missile logic change that happened this update, will obviously get fixed tho

Sledgehammers also don't work at all, and there's plenty of other bugs still around

[spark ruin]

use shipbreakers

[lusty zodiac]

shipbreakers SUCK! :I

At least on the corvette

[hardy gyro]

question
is argus the next planned drivable boat

[valid sparrow]

yes

[quaint nimbus]

Yeah there was a vote who will be added first
Argus won and will be added first before other ships

[dusty nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/thirsty-spongebob-i-dont-need-it-sweat-gif-5031443

[spark ruin]

i found a bug

the supply crates dropped by the call in dont work

you cant pick them up

[austere socket]

resupply doesnt work in general, fixed in dev

the resupply ai is stupid, that is not fixed yet

[spark ruin]

what

i mean like

it does drop it

next to me

but it doesnt let me pick it up

[austere socket]

yeah sometimes it dont tho

not being able to pick it up has been fixed for next release

[spark ruin]

im using hyperion

nice

we need anti air ship variant

trust

[austere socket]

insert that one clip of me watching an ai resupply tarantula blow up an entire player fleet with a crate

[spark ruin]

i just use the hyperion to hit stuff from 100km away on the ground

tusko b spam or 76 spam

[spark ruin]

i just witnessed a medusa spawn on me, hit a factory and die along with the factory

???

thanks tarantula

nice supply drop buddy

[spark ruin]

⬆️

@austere socket are the sledgehammers supposed to be missing their texture

[austere socket]

bug, if you want to fix it for now launch with vulkan i think works

[spark ruin]

what is vulkan

?

[spark ruin]

what it do

[static lava]

Vulkan is a renderer. Can help you get better FPS>

[unreal agate]

Does vulkan work better than directx for Nvidia cards?

[uncut current]

if its not more than like 10 years old then yeah

[lusty zodiac]

Is that real? I need to see that

[lone crown]

is it working yet

[austere socket]

ill need to trim it but i can dig it up

[austere socket]

https://github.com/MinecrackTyler/BoscaliOceanTrainingExercise/releases/tag/v1.3.6
BOTE 1.3.6

• Resupply crates work again
• Networking stuff fixed
• materials and textures work again in all cases
• misc small fixes

Known Issues:

• Turrets can be blocked at 200m or below range to target, if the target is not on the ground this is usually avoided though
• Misc other issues
• Certain missiles still wacky (R9, cruise missiles)

[half timber]

Bro its a carrier mot a destroyer

[austere socket]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAmQqvSdqak

[open citrus]

damn rantula terrorism

[raw tide]

can someone help me everytime i use a ship and get a kill i go into 30bn in debt

[uncut current]

dynamo has tbms now

oh boy

guided 127 and nl98s

guess we got argus early

somehow all player launched missiles just have different guidance from ai

[open citrus]

they also behave weirdly as hell

"OH BOY FISH !" gets into water

[uncut current]

nl98s seem to get enough altitude/dont turn fast enough to crash into the water at least

ram45 guides perfectly somehow

[austere socket]

maybe i just need to make a ram9 which is an extra burn time ram45 lmao

something is still goofy with the missiles

still not sure what

[uncut current]

just replace ram45 visual model with stratolance and give it extra burn time😂

[austere socket]

"R9 Stratolance"

look inside
ram45

[uncut current]

also the resupply might be bugged?

[austere socket]

does it still not work? I just tested it 😭

[uncut current]

goes straight to resupply: called without ever spawning a tula

[austere socket]

oh

what map are you on?

[uncut current]

ignus

[austere socket]

mission?

[uncut current]

terminal control pvp in bdf

[austere socket]

called should show up when:

1. the tula spawns on an annex and is waiting for the elevator
2. The tara spawned, came in, then despawned at some point
3. It cant find an airbase to spawn it at

hmm

mp?

[uncut current]

actually let me try it a few times

[austere socket]

oh

pvp

if it showed called it wont allow you to retrigger so you would need to respawn

[uncut current]

yeah im restarting the mission

looks like it cant find an airbase?

[austere socket]

hmm

it should be able to even spawn at the annex lmao

normal TC?

[uncut current]

or is it somehow affected by ai limit in the mission

[austere socket]

i can try here real quick, multiplayer as well?

shouldn't be affected

[uncut current]

yeah normal tc

[austere socket]

huh

works fine here

[lusty zodiac]

That is fkin hilarious LMAO

[uncut current]

maybe the new qol broke something then

[real crystal]

most succesful PALA naval resupply operation

[topaz agate]

Are the sledgehammers removed ?

[uncut current]

yeah looks like it

it wasnt working properly before so maybe itll be back in a later update

[topaz agate]

Yeah hopefully they make a return, but for now we ball

[uncut current]

(they were kinda op)

[topaz agate]

Oh yeah entirely, but they were fun.

[vestal brook]

Hey, this mod is absolutely awesome, question though, so for example this current game I'm playing as a Dynamo mostly, what do I do with the 3 Chicane's I loaded up? And how do I utilize the "Resupply Ready" prompt on the HUD?

[austere socket]

there is a couple keybinds in your controls menu that were added

use them to deploy the units, and to call a resupply (1 time use, the AI on it may vary and could work fine, fly away, or crash and explode you)

[unreal agate]

well i got a 4080, so ill try it out!

[vestal brook]

Ah that's sick, thank you

[fallow nimbus]

how do i build docks?

[charred barn]

[0.33] KAR-BOTE Combined Arms

now both are updated, yay

[quaint nimbus]

I CAN FINALLY LEAVE THE COPIUM REALM

[hoary bear]

so what does the revamped camera system actually mean for gameplay?

[charred barn]

Turret gunner and shoulder view cameras

[plain meteor]

wheezing

[meager dragon]

kar and bote updated to 0.33?!?!?

https://tenor.com/view/funny-crowd-cheer-crazy-gif-23007018

https://tenor.com/view/needy-streamer-overload-needy-girl-overdose-ame-chan-ame-ame-dance-gif-12810421092464481880

[vast ridge]

how do i deploy the tropps in my cargo or on the landing craft

[nocturne juniper]

there is special keybinds you have to set and for the lcac you use the landing gear bind to open the front first

[vast ridge]

where do i set the keybinds?

dw

[nocturne juniper]

control settings, at the bottom, in the base game menu

[vast ridge]

ahah had to open my eyes FR

[feral chasm]

selecting an fob as spawn does this for some reason

im assuming another mod is breaking it but i dont know which one

a minor price to pay for 155mm Railgun

[plain meteor]

The canon Spearhead with all the same equipment as the NPC ones is my favorite vehicle

The 20kw is fun because you get to panic reverse while watching doom close in, but a last second swerve can save you

[feral chasm]

how does the aps work

i know its essentially just a cannon with a really short airburst fuse but it feels very inconsistent

[uncut current]

the ai doesnt always take the same time to target incoming stuff

[sharp prism]

What other mods do you have

[vestal haven]

It remains to work a little on the physics of ground vehicles and we will have War Thunder 2

[feral chasm]

a lot

which is why i believe another mod is breaking it

[uncut current]

did you put the dll inside blueprinter assets folder

[sharp prism]

I've got to go, won't be able to help sadly

[feral chasm]

ys

[feral chasm]

its ok thank u anyway

[sharp prism]

You put the blueprinter dll into plugins, though

[vestal haven]

It remains to work a little on the physics of ground vehicles and we will have War Thunder 2

[sharp prism]

Right well im off now

Best of luck fixing it

[uncut current]

the green icons can show up if the dll is inside plugins directly

but if its in blueprinter then its probably some mod

[charred barn]

blueprinter will grab all compatible mods that are in the bepinex/plugins folder, it doesnt really care if its in some random subfolder

[charred barn]

could you send your modlist or player.log, and if possible steps to reproduce this issue?

[paper wagon]

Dude.
Hexhound cannot be the same
Literally meme hound

[uncut current]

i saw that update, but putting things outside the assets folder still resulted in the green icons without other mods installed

[feral chasm]

this one?

[charred barn]

a lil clip of the camera system in action

[charred barn]

Player.log located in: C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\LocalLow\Shockfront\NuclearOption

[feral chasm]

oh ok

my bad i need to sleep

[charred barn]

there's no rush, take care!

[feral chasm]

does the log file have any sensitive info or is it just bepinex spaghetti

[charred barn]

feel free to dm it

[fleet ridge]

WOOOOO 0.33!!!!

[hazy hedge]

nooo my agm48 spam 💔

[royal mist]

are there any servers that run this?

[hoary bear]

https://tenor.com/view/there-was-much-rejoicing-monty-python-gif-8126730753147765505

[charred barn]

[fickle fractal]

was just about to download this mod

HOW MANY AGMS?

[royal mist]

hey i'm new to this mod and it looks absolutely peak, do both the boats and land vehicles work on the latest version?

[charred barn]

ye

[royal mist]

epic

[hazy hedge]

180

:D

[hazy hedge]

will this actually work

i dont think so

now i need to have skill

no more spam

[uncut current]

🥹

[fickle fractal]

do you put blueprinter in plugins or does it go somewhere else

nvm i got it

[pulsar glacier]

> no more 180 AGMs
w e h

[next stump]

yusss

[kindred swan]

Hi where can I install the mod?

[fleet ridge]

Any difference between 127mm and 76mm?

[hazy hedge]

damage and firerate

duh

[hazy hedge]

you need bepinex

you just install the mod and blueprinter then put it in plugins folder

in nuclear option / bepinex

[kindred swan]

Ah alright okay thank you!

[hazy hedge]

instal guide is here

[fleet ridge]

There wasn't any between 76mm and 152mm, is why I'm asking.

[hazy hedge]

just get the bote and kar from the recent ones

[hazy hedge]

wasnt 76mm a guided artilery shell and 152mm just a normal fin stabilised one?

[charred barn]

76mm is a 3 round burst fire shoot and scoot SPG, firing the same rounds as the tula
127mm is a more traditional arty with a slower firerate but bigger impact, firing the same rounds as the Argus.
152mm is kill

the firing velocity is nerfed for both btw, or you'd be able to shell anything within an 80km radius

[fleet ridge]

Okay that's really freaking awesome.

Hell yeah.

[kindred swan]

So ugh I already installed everything but I don't see that tanks what so ever in escalation mode

[drifting trail]

i cant find any spawn point where i can deploy the carrier

[kindred swan]

There is no Escalation mdoe for KAR-BOTE?

nvm it is all good

How do I use the naval ships?

Help why are the controls for the vehicle kinda inverted? Is there anyway to fix it

nvm fixed it again

[charred barn]

theres a botes guide in the pins that explains where you can spawn and other neat things in the mod

[craggy aspen]

is bote also 0.33-compliant now ?

[charred barn]

ye*

[craggy aspen]

very nice

[open citrus]

So the landing craft base building is back in action? What the about truck-kun?

[kindred swan]

How do I use The naval ships?

[quaint nimbus]

Like...weapons or spawning?

[kindred swan]

Yeah how do I spawn them exactly

I can only spawn into the military vehicles

[quaint nimbus]

Docks - Spawn every ships
Shard - None
Dynamo & Frigate - Shard Corvette
Annex & Hyperion - Dynamos, Shard Corvette and Landing Craft

if you want docks, you need to find a mission that has docks spawned in
Or place a FOB in your landing craft and create a FOB with docks

[kindred swan]

ah okay alright thanks

[quaint nimbus]

no worries

[karmic bolt]

How do spawn stuff around my fob/enter the building menu?

[quaint nimbus]

did you settle a FOB center?
It won't work without it
And to enter the building menu, check your keybinds and go to the bottom

and set any keys for deploy FOB

Then use that key
And use normal deploy keybind, it will enter the building mode

[wooden vector]

This OP still links to the 0.32 version but latest can be found by just going to the github releases.

[karmic bolt]

is this a fob center?

[quaint nimbus]

Oh you meant KAR-

yeah

thats the FOB center

you just

drop it off

and it will deploy itself

becoming a base for ground vehicles

though

@karmic bolt For BOTE, its in landing craft

[karmic bolt]

ah, so building menu appears only with lcac?

[quaint nimbus]

Yeah

only LCAC

[karmic bolt]

this one

[karmic bolt]

sadge, ok thx!

[quaint nimbus]

no worries

[hushed rapids]

@charred barn Hello, regarding the 127mm self-propelled gun model of the tank, I have some suggestions. Could it be changed to a magazine-type design? It takes 8 seconds to complete the loading process each time when firing three 127mm shells.

During the testing of the new version, the 127mm self-propelled artillery proved to be a huge surprise for me. It's so cool!

[fleet ridge]

It would be quite goofy to add a crew fatigue mechanic for non-autoloader vehicles, where the more you shoot in a rapid succession, the slower your reload is.

[charred barn]

the firerate is intentional, the 127mm is the more powerful but slower firing, and the AFV8 76mm is the faster firing 3 round magazine spg, tho the timings are not set in stone

[glacial flame]

Quick question, Under the BOTE keybinds, What is 'Open control UI'

[spark ruin]

bullying the pala fleet carrier with a dynamo

(he cant do anything other than tickle me with his ciws)

[half timber]

Do we have the 3 extra ships now

Annex cursor argus

[spark ruin]

not yer

yet

argus is getting added first tho

[half timber]

Anytime soon?

[spark ruin]

yes soon

[half timber]

Cuz i REALLY wanna try cursor

[half timber]

Yayyy

Btw this mod is just an amazing way to show that saying “ground and naval is boring” is just an excuse

[spark ruin]

ground is boring

[half timber]

And there is no reason to add this to vanilla now

[spark ruin]

naval good

[half timber]

Both good

Naval is 100% of the time fun

Ground is like 60% of the time

And air is, of course 100% of the time

[spark ruin]

120

[spark ruin]

ground very situational

naval always good

[half timber]

True true

[spark ruin]

also the terrain

uhhh

B O X

[half timber]

Yeah exactly

Its like a bowl all the time

I think i know why its called dustBOWL now

[vestal haven]

127 faster and have more TNT

[half timber]

You know what i hope for

Aircraft hooks work on ground units

And aircrafts get manual ramps and the ability to carry vehicles

Not just get them outside but also inside

[spark ruin]

not possible

unless mitch blesses us