F-104 style interceptor for PALA

[gray bough]

Outside of the mention of an F-104 and legacy airframes, sure whatever.
Basically just a Revoker but less multirole and worse handeling for no reason
Im all for a palavoker but it should be a tad more distinct.

[glacial forge]

a palavoker would be something like a mig 29 or an F 18 hornet

[gray bough]

I do think something twin engine but without thrust vectoring would be good.
Still very good kinematic performance from control surfaces.

[royal spade]

We don’t need more fighters, interceptors, or any aircraft like that. We really need a bigger plane, which we should be getting

[violet kestrel]

We most definitely need more fighters, especially if we want to round out the match-up. The BDF lacks a light naval fighter and heavy fighter, and the PALA lacks 2 mid-tier fighters.

Additionally, if you want an F-104, I will suggest #1419431309218152551 as a Starfighter would fit its role better in the timeframe it was actually used

I frankly think a MiG-31 would be a better analogue for a PALA mid-tier fighter/interceptor. Beefy exterior pylons for a wide array of mounting options, as well as unparalleled speed (refer to picture 4) at rank 3 at the cost of reduced maneuverability and the lack of an internal bay. The RCS would be about the same as a Revoker. This would be quite distinct from the Revoker in design and flight dynamics, while still retaining the same role as a relatively cheap (in comparison to late-game fighters), early BVR fighter and interceptor.

[delicate jacinth]

"bigger plane"

tf is that supposed to mean, and why do we need it

as opposed to the fighter balance being critical to the faction divorce which is very much coming down the pipeline

I love large transports but there's barely a reason to spawn a Tarantula for logi right now, let alone something like a C-17

[bold yarrow]

The F-104 mention is a bit goofy, but PALA definitely would love a cheap supersonic A2A platform.

[narrow scaffold]

I'd like an analogue to the mig-23, in game somehow - not the swing wings or anything like that, but the idea of high speed with modest weapon loads

It probably wouldn't have to be nearly as big as well, and between the Revoker and Compass in price point

[royal spade]

Meaning all of the aircraft in the game are relatively small except for the darkreach and tarantula…

[delicate jacinth]

and? There's no purpose for a large aircraft like a B-52 or C-17 in Nuclear Option, the maps don't favor vehicles of that size and there's no gameplay loop they'd excel at.

[narrow scaffold]

Medusa's large-ish but that's besides the point lol, we don't really need bigger planes rn

Besides we only have 10 planes in-game, 2/10 planes are big

That's not bad

[royal spade]

Mb I meant to say Medusa as well

[narrow scaffold]

Then it’s 3/10 planes man, that’s a lot

[narrow scaffold]

Saying “all” for 7/10 is a little rich, just saying

[delicate jacinth]

Also even the single engine fighters are fairly large aircraft

[undone sequoia]

The fabled palavoker

Someday

[bold yarrow]

Six missiles but cheap and solid kinematics would be an interesting one to balance.

[plucky cape]

i would personally prefer something closer to the f-15ex, but yeah something that's less maneuverable and lacks internal bay but is very good at high speed and BVR would be good in general

[nocturne ledge]

good god why and how are they so similar in thickbess

[strong lava]

I was thinking of making a post about a potential mig-29 analogue but realised it would end up being a compass with radar and afterburners

Also why the zero days, I can't find any posts with a similar suggestion