[MOD] JetFox's RCON/Ban Management for Dedicated Servers!

[gilded elk]

(i guess we can also take the topic back to noblackbox chat)

[spiral spade]

@gilded elk does this work with the dedicated server mod?

[gilded elk]

no 😢 but I'm trying

[gilded elk]

i looked at the voip mod's source for inspiration and I think i know what i have to do to get mine to work with bepinex

although, that's bepinex 6 so not sure if its representative example

[south aurora]

Heya Jet. Do you have a GitHub repository up for this? I'd be very interested in helping out / expanding this with plugin support 🙂

Can recommend Hetzner. I use it myself for a number of servers.

[torpid radish]

.

[south aurora]

What version of BepInEx are you running this on? LTS 5?

[torpid radish]

yup.

[south aurora]

Neat, going to play around with things a bit

[torpid radish]

Have fun.

[cold coral]

@torpid radish Im not sure if this is the place to ask things about the dedi servers you host, but I play on the EU server a lot... The nuke timer is really, really fast on it, is that intentional?

[torpid radish]

It's default speed hah

[cold coral]

ah, ok. Feels like there is no time at all between tac nukes and strategic.

[south aurora]

Yeah, afaik it is

[gilded elk]

@torpid radish I can't get missions to load on my server, any pointers?
has the structure of config.txt changed with 1.3.5 ?

whatever I set as missionnames it just throws an error and loads an empty map

[torpid radish]

Is your mission in the appdata folder?

[gilded elk]

ah so it can only load from there?

noted

[torpid radish]

mmhm

[gilded elk]

all good now

[torpid radish]

(The sauce is available if you want to change the one line lol)

[eager hill]

Does steamworks not support direct local sockets? Also pretty sure you can send signed steamids.

[gilded elk]

btw my mod works with the server mod now ^^

[south aurora]

Did you ever figure out a lead on allowing the host account to play on a dedicated server, @torpid radish? I've been working on my own server solution for some friends, and it's the one thing that's blocking me from releasing right now

Seems like the only workaround would be the devs actually implementing a dedicated server option using the SteamGameServer system?

[torpid radish]

I do have a way, next patch i think allows it

For a different method

[south aurora]

Huh, how'd you resolve it?

[torpid radish]

Udp method isn't validating client id's lol

[south aurora]

Ah, so it'd be UDP versus Steam?

Do UDP servers still show up in the server list, though?

[torpid radish]

Just buy another copy tho?

[south aurora]

I'd prefer not to, if I can help it 😄

Hence why I've been playing around with trying to circumvent it.

[torpid radish]

Udp method also reduces my servers ping by almost 40 for me

[south aurora]

But do UDP servers show up in the server list?

[torpid radish]

Yeah i have a working test of it

[south aurora]

Huh, I'll have to try that route

[south aurora]

So you're using the UDP socket type, but still creating a steam lobby? And through that, you can connect to your own server (even if hosting on the same account)?

[torpid radish]

I haven't tried connecting with same acc yet for udp

But it works for hosting multiple on one acc

[south aurora]

Hm, just did some testing and couldn't connect with the same account.

[eager hill]

The server could technially allow the same ID as a client, but it might have to do some odd stuff to route data correctly.

[spiral spade]

sweet ill have to give it a try!

[golden moat]

Hello everyone. Can you please write in detail or send a message with instructions on how to start the server?

[gilded elk]

@torpid radish we noticed that after running the mod, something gets screwed up with render distances. massive pop-in for city building when removing the mod and playing normally. didn't exist before.

[torpid radish]

If you're removing the mod and playing normally you have to reset your games graphics settings (delete the file)

It makes changes that aren't by default in.

[gilded elk]

thanks

[valid hound]

If one was to ask for said location? where might it be? @torpid radish

[golden moat]

@torpid radish Is there any detailed guide on how to create a server?

[torpid radish]

The first post.

[golden moat]

Here I can use Belinex 5.4.23.2 and Harmony?

[nocturne meadow]

B5 yes

Harmony the correct one is included anyway

Its a core part of BE

[golden moat]

Where can I download them?

[nocturne meadow]

Have you googled?

[gilded elk]

https://github.com/KopterBuzz/NOBlackBox/blob/main/INSTALL.md#installation-with-bepinex
bepinex is deceptively easy to install

(steps 1 and 3 of that section of our manual)

except in this case you will be putting the NO-ServerHost.dll in the folder

[golden moat]

Thank you very much for your reply, but in the end I couldn't start the server - I don't quite understand the developer's manual. Can you please tell me step by step which files to put where?

[golden moat]

You can drop off a ready-made folder with a mod or a game, otherwise I can't do it myself?

[gilded elk]

#1262110297070632992 message

you just gotta do this

to intall bepinex

and then put the mod content in the bepinex plugins folder

[golden moat]

I understand how to install bepinex. I don't understand where to get the mod itself, because there are incomprehensible files on the developer's github.

[gilded elk]

#1329805993005289514 message

yeah I don't think the github repo has releases

that's the latest binaries I can find

[golden moat]

Thank you very much, it helped me a lot!

[gilded elk]

which file

i uninstalled the game

nuked the old game folder

installed it on a different ssd inside a different steam library

buildings still pop

ah

its in the registry

that key

[wet elbow]

can someone here give me an overview of dedicated servers, how they work, and how to set them up? looking into creating one
how does this compare to https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1339291458154528818 ?

[torpid radish]

Nuclei is pretty much a rewrite of mine with better coding and chat commands, but doesn't include a ban list/join log.

Mine was just a "Can i do it?" project, well it worked so i'm back to playin war thunder lol

[wet elbow]

how does it compare in peformance? are you still going to work on this or are we going to see a shift towards nuclei?

[torpid radish]

I don't believe theres anymore performance tweaks, but i should probably remove the attempt at graphics modifications as they dont do anything.

[wet elbow]

and how should i go about installation? any guides you have i should follow?

don't know nothing about servers lol

[torpid radish]

Get another computer, buy nuclear option, install the bepinex and drag the install to the plugins folder inside bepinex 😛

The only other option that influences fps at this time which is a huge investment into investigating:

1.    SimulationMode.FixedUpdate:
•    Description: Physics updates are tied to the FixedUpdate loop.
•    Use Case: This mode is typically used for consistent physics calculations, as FixedUpdate is called at a fixed time interval, independent of the frame rate.
•    Performance: Ensures stable and predictable physics behavior, but can be less efficient if the fixed time step is too small.
2.    SimulationMode.Script:
•    Description: Physics updates are controlled manually via scripting.
•    Use Case: This mode is useful when you need precise control over when physics updates occur, such as in custom simulation scenarios or when optimizing performance.
•    Performance: Offers the most control, but requires careful management to ensure physics updates are called appropriately.
3.    SimulationMode.Update:
•    Description: Physics updates are tied to the Update loop.
•    Use Case: This mode is used when physics calculations need to be in sync with the frame rate, which can be useful for certain types of simulations or visual effects.
•    Performance: Can lead to inconsistent physics behavior if the frame rate fluctuates, but can be more efficient if the frame rate is stable.

[south aurora]

Pretty much what Jet says. I do have plans to get up to parity on the ban system pretty soon, and I plan on long-term development/maintenance since it's been a fun project so far. If you want to know how it runs in practice, you can ask @gilded elk & @valid hound. They've been using Nuclei since this week.

[valid hound]

👋 using JefFox or Nuclei really comes down to personal preference while JetFox has been here longer with more mods available for it compared to Nuclei which is like comparing two different computers on one hand you have the old mighty beast but it’s kinda bulky not as modular but still is very powerful and mighty where nuclei is more “newer” and a little bit more user friendly now when it comes to hosting with both of them it’s also the exact same way you just got to make sure you have a dedicated account to do so cause sadly no matter which one you use you not able to use the same stream account to both host and play on the server currently (atleast to my knowledge) now for install you need nuclear option of course.. bepenix installed and then either jetfox or nuclei placed in the plugins, and launch the game using the .bat file give it a few seconds to run then close it out, go to bepenix folder in your NO folder and go to config to edit the config for nuclei or just go to the normal plugins and edit the config for jetfox… I hope that explains a little better!

[gilded elk]

I use Nuclei rn and just run a home server on my second computer with a second steam account.

[torpid radish]

I would like to test something if we could get alot of players available....

[gilded elk]

this ?

[torpid radish]

later lol im finishing up a graph

[wet elbow]

don't have a second game for hosting 😭

[torpid radish]

Core rate of 16 drops the fps massively, core rate of 2 doubles performance...

I should probably log default value first lol

[torpid radish]

default value is coreCount of server, so weird telling the engine that if it has less cores available it works great

@spiral spade @frosty path @gilded elk chance i could borrow some of you for a fps test later?

[gilded elk]

ya I think I can hop on

might go play aoe4 with a mate but dunno when hes getting back hes afk

[torpid radish]

its up if you can join

[frosty path]

sure

[frosty path]

which server

[torpid radish]

jetfoxs test server

[frosty path]

nvm

im blind

[torpid radish]

lol

im gonna plot fps for about 5 minutes real quikc to get a baseline

then apply the patch

about a 1/3 fps difference increase.

[south aurora]

Is this tested on the same mission each time?

[torpid radish]

Same match, more players on patched as they kept joining

patched was about 30 seconds after unpatched

[gilded elk]

that was a good round

[torpid radish]

lol is it over?

imma just yeet the server offline for now then

[gilded elk]

according to tacview, the Dynamo just checked itself out of existence

ppl were wondering how it died

[torpid radish]

aint that exciting

[gilded elk]

for sure

[torpid radish]

i've seen it happen before too

but rejoining it shows the destroyer still alive

[gilded elk]

weird

[torpid radish]

i just work here

https://tenor.com/view/coniglio-gif-19864712

the patch also reduced server cpu usage by alot too lol

[south aurora]

What did you end up doing? Limit CPU count?

[torpid radish]

 Unity.Jobs.LowLevel.Unsafe.JobsUtility.JobWorkerCount = 2

Appears 2 is the sweet spot.

[south aurora]

Huh, peculiar

[torpid radish]

lmk if you see similar results.

(i only tested for about 10 minutes so)

[south aurora]

Will do

[torpid radish]

works as a ingame fps boost too if you play...

[south aurora]

Huh, what CPU do you use?

[torpid radish]

13900k

[south aurora]

Might be switching between P & E cores?

[torpid radish]

nah, the other server test was done on a epyc cpu

[south aurora]

Interesting

[torpid radish]

Epyc 4564p which is basically a 7950x

ill get a pic of its fps test ingame

one moment

(this has the graphics patch applied lol so ignore super high fps...)

but yeah same perf boost

[strange trellis]

dayum

[strange trellis]

server side?

[torpid radish]

yeah, lol

its basically disabled every source of rendering

i use it as a debug for when i actually need the unity log

[strange trellis]

wonder if I should try this on a raspberry pi

[torpid radish]

Itd probably run?

it just has to hit 20-30 fps and no one ingame notices it

[strange trellis]

I mean it struggles with minecraft server so maybe not 😭

[torpid radish]

gotta get steam client running though for steam auth lol

[strange trellis]

well it's a 3b and I'll have to run it through proton

wait no it's arm64 so no steam 😅

[torpid radish]

lol

[strange trellis]

box86 maybe

[strange trellis]

right..

so I have to get box86 to run steam and the game

[torpid radish]

mmhm

😉

technically the game doesnt need graphics output

sooo

[strange trellis]

doesn't help that my raspberry pi is 2-3 generations behind 😭

[strange trellis]

yeah but neither does mc

[torpid radish]

mc has to generate chunks though...

[south aurora]

I actually didn't notice a difference for the batchmode server with or without graphics patching.

Did some benchmarking myself, no resource usage difference, 0% GPU

[torpid radish]

yeah i dont need graphics patching for batchmode.... i realize that now lmao but i was just trying everything to squeeze extra performance.

i was seeing if itd reduce ram usage at all

[strange trellis]

ooh true

ok you have fed my delusions enough, I will try it today

[torpid radish]

i have a pi too lol

i could try it...

[south aurora]

Pretty sure Nuclear Option is a lot lighter weight than MC

[strange trellis]

mines an old ass 3b

[torpid radish]

mines a 4 i think? 8gb of ram

[south aurora]

You'd just run into the whole needing Windows or an emulation layer thing

[strange trellis]

with like 1gb of ram 💀💀💀

that's another reason why it won't work

[strange trellis]

im hoping box86 will do the trick

[torpid radish]

lol

wait f my pi is unplugged at home 😦

[strange trellis]

I think I unplugged my pi cause I needed the ethernet cord for something else 😭

[torpid radish]

mine uses weefee

[strange trellis]

and also it has flightradar24 tracking stuff on it so I'll have to reflash

[strange trellis]

yeah I could've but the headless sd card stuff didn't work with the flightradar24 os thing so didn't wanna mess with it

[torpid radish]

😛

wanna try the fps patch synthium?

[strange trellis]

I think if I had a bit more ram on it it would have a good chance of working

[strange trellis]

wym

[torpid radish]

just as a client side test

see if you get more fps in nuclear

[strange trellis]

not rn sorry

[torpid radish]

[strange trellis]

I can hop on later if it's still up

[torpid radish]

I meant you test yourself when playing lol

[strange trellis]

oohhhhhh

like I apply to my game and singleplayer stuff runs better?

[torpid radish]

and multiplayer

pretty much

[strange trellis]

oh dayum

haven't messed around with bepinex but I will try that

give me like an hour from now and I'll be available

[torpid radish]

sounds good

gives me time to compile a solo version

[strange trellis]

epic

[torpid radish]

talon before patch

talon after patch

[strange trellis]

this requires your dedicated server also?

[torpid radish]

No

solo mod

[strange trellis]

alr

and can you point me to a tutorial on how to install it

[torpid radish]

#1340695286405791764 if you need an install guide lol

[strange trellis]

ah perfect thanks

[torpid radish]

join a server beforehand to get a baseline a little bit though

or i guess you've played long enough to know your average fps?

[strange trellis]

its usually 30-40 on packed servers and like 70+ when its not

singleplayer is always usually like 80-90+

but i will test beforehand (and post them in the right thread lmao)

[torpid radish]

😄

[strange trellis]

alright im gonna go flash debian server to my 3b and see what i can do

where is the fps boost plugin for this mod btw

[torpid radish]

uh

hiding

not pushed to github lol

[strange trellis]

aw

is it public?

[torpid radish]

ill probably push it one day

[strange trellis]

is it in this channel?

or forum wtv

[torpid radish]

https://github.com/JetF0x/NO-ServerHost/tree/master this?

[strange trellis]

no i found that i mean the fps boost plugin

[torpid radish]

oh i havent pushed that to anything yet

[strange trellis]

i need anything i can get to squeeze the performance on my 3b 😭

oh ok

uh will i be able to join on my steam account if im hosting on the same account or nah

[torpid radish]

nope

[strange trellis]

alr well ill need someone to join for me lmao

probably will be ready in 40-60 minutes depending on how it goes

[torpid radish]

yeah

i got another fps test for you in like 10 mins

[strange trellis]

ok actually a bit longer, i have to flash ubuntu on an old intel mac because its the only thing i can find that can flash sd cards 😂

[strange trellis]

come to think of it, i could much more easily run the server on this mac...

its amd64 and has linux so why not right?

[torpid radish]

😛

[strange trellis]

i'll try it first, if it runs shit then im not even gonna bother with the pi

this is the latest one?

[torpid radish]

I mean theres another one that hasn't been pushed but i'm saving it til next game patch

[strange trellis]

well is this the latest available one for me to use

[torpid radish]

i think so

[strange trellis]

and does it automatically open the console or should I use that cfg you sent

and since I'm using proton should I download the windows bepinex or linux 😅

sorry about the questions lmao

[torpid radish]

Uhhh idk probably windows

Probably use cfg

[strange trellis]

oke thanks

ok I'm getting 9 fps in free flight lmao

I'll install the server now

it says to move 2 dlls even though there are 3 in the zip file?

Serverhost.dll, Newtonsoft.json.dll, and IPAddressRange.dll

[torpid radish]

It needs all 3 sorry lol

times change

move em all from zip

[strange trellis]

should i move the config.txt (not cfg) to the plugins folder also

[torpid radish]

everything in the zip 😛

[strange trellis]

alr thanks

so I think it worked

I hear the menu music but nothing popped up

I need to add the config thing to make console pop up tho

[torpid radish]

yeah so youll have to force close it then lol

[strange trellis]

oh uh the bepinex folder is not populating with folders when I run it

I'll try Linux bepinex then

[torpid radish]

if it dont work i have nuthin

[strange trellis]

has anyone tried it with proton yet?

https://docs.bepinex.dev/articles/advanced/proton_wine.html

hmmm

[torpid radish]

Just cuz I was hella confused about these instructions. I managed to figure it out with my Lutris v0.5.11, I think.

Right-click game profile > Configure

Runner options > DLL overrides

Add: winhttp | n,b

Maybe "System options > Prefer system libraries" ON, too? Was, for me.

Save. Duh.

[strange trellis]

hm

I think I'll stick with official bepinex docs tho lmao

also no clue what lutris is and I have no interest in finding out 😅

[torpid radish]

for steam:

Properties --> Set Launch Options: WINEDLLOVERRIDES="dinput8.dll=n,b" %command%

for proton:

WINEDLLOVERRIDES="dinput8.dll=n,b" /path/to/proton/bin/wine executable

(change dinput8 to winhttp)

[strange trellis]

oh ok

[torpid radish]

idk

i just google

[strange trellis]

oh I thought you tried it

I'll stick with bepinex docs lol

it's describing my issues most closely so

[torpid radish]

xD

[strange trellis]

hope someone's gonna be able to test my server when im done so this trouble isn't for nothing 😭

[torpid radish]

i can lol

[strange trellis]

don't think it's working

it's still playing background music and no change in folders

nah it just doesn't wanna use bepinex

[strange trellis]

I did this and still nothin

[torpid radish]

[strange trellis]

truly a sad day for the 0 people who actually want a standalone nuclear option server on a 10 year old mac running Linux mint 😔

[torpid radish]

haha

[spiral spade]

Sorry man im not in town

I see the fps boost though ill have to check that out!

[frosty path]

[MOD] JetFox's Dedicated Server!

[robust nebula]

hey jetfox sorry for dumb question but after the two .dll files go into plugins where do i put the config?

[spiral spade]

Just drop it in the same folder as the plugins

[robust nebula]

lol heard i was being cautious but seems to work thank you

[oblique roost]

I attempted, I had better luck just running the dockur/windows container and hosting it there. Seemed performant enough

[robust nebula]

so this opens, game launches can only see it in task manager. but nothing else what am i doing wrong

[oblique roost]

I've only got one copy of the game, so didn't leave it up long enough to test in detail

[strange trellis]

yeah well in my case i was running on a 2015 macbook air so that wont work 😂

ive given up since then so its alright

[oblique roost]

Well

[torpid radish]

The step of modifying the bepinex to show a console popup, otherwise it doesnt matter either way

[oblique roost]

Yea

[robust nebula]

i thought i did

[oblique roost]

I've got an unRAID machine in my laundry room.

If it's an old mac and you're not super attached to it as a dedicated device you can always dual boot into Windows

[strange trellis]

oh i dont care about it at all lmao, i could try that tho

[oblique roost]

When I owned a Macbook it dual booted well. Never tried any games with it, but only needs a CPU

[strange trellis]

idk how well it will run windows 10 but maybe if im bored enough ill try 😂

[oblique roost]

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102622

Apple has a guide for it

Super easy

[strange trellis]

oh i know how to do it im just wondering how well it would run

and also the fact that ive uninstalled macos so that wont work 😂

ill probably just have to make a bootable usb though its prob not too bad

[oblique roost]

Fair. It's an Air after all. I don't think the CPU usage was too terrible but @torpid radish would have to attest to that. Not sure if it's still eating RAM on ocassion. Haven't kept up in this thread in the last few weeks

[torpid radish]

I mean i did testing last month on the fps limitting of the server, i didnt feel any ingame performance drops til around 10 fps when the ingame ping was almost double of what it starts at

[torpid radish]

I think the ram leak is the game itself lol

[oblique roost]

Could probably write up a script to reboot the game after X amount of games completed

Or if usage is > xyz

You ever max the memory? Wonder what the performance looks like then

[torpid radish]

i dont think im gonna max it

lol

[oblique roost]

Can't help on that assessment either

[torpid radish]

ddr3! lol

wait i've got 8gb ddr2 sitting around somewhere..

[oblique roost]

Lololol, it's an R620

Came out in 2012/13 I think?

I had spec'd out an upgrade to the entire system earlier this year for purchase eventually™️ but it was only gonna be up to ddr4, 5 prices are still a bit meh.

also only upgrading to an i5

[torpid radish]

intel 265ks are $299 atm... for me atleast

but i have a 13900k and im like.. its the same performance...

i also have an epyc server next to me lol

[oblique roost]

Yea, 14600K's about $220

[torpid radish]

i wouldnt even go 13th or 14th gen with the degradation issues

im just waitin for mine to die so i can get a refund and buy a 265k lol

[oblique roost]

Hoping they stay that low, or I can snag it for a bit cheaper. But not sure that'll be happening this year with a certain t word that rhymes with parish. I live in the US 😸

Last I heard last fall it seemed to be resolved, or atleast mostly.

146K hits all my perf benchmarks for what I've had issues with, and supposedly the intel cpu's transcode wonderfully.

My R620 has dual Xeon E5-2670 v2s, so I have a P400 for transcoding. Might be able to rid it if it's as fantastic as everyone says 🤷‍♂️

[robust nebula]

heeeeeeeeeeelp lolol

almost?

[gilded elk]

if you click on the inside of a command line window

it pauses execution

i can see u did that because the window title starts with Select

click on the black background inside the window and then press F5

[robust nebula]

facepamlm

its still sitting there

[oblique roost]

Try rightclicking

[gilded elk]

iirc it has a hardcoded pause to make sure the game has loaded

for like 10 seconds

[robust nebula]

its been a min

dangg

[oblique roost]

Reboot the command line

[gilded elk]

but if you have paused the command line accidentally for a long time maybe u just want to exit and start a new one

[robust nebula]

will try again'

same thing close it and re open making sure not to pause it or anything its just same screen damn im feeling lost in the sauce

[gilded elk]

i think you are running an old release.

try this:
#1329805993005289514 message

[robust nebula]

nvm i see it

[gilded elk]

idk why it takes to 2 messages below it lol

[robust nebula]

lolol

[gilded elk]

i checked the link twice it was for the right message

[robust nebula]

do i need the fps rcon.exe

[gilded elk]

not neccessarily

[robust nebula]

ur goated

i woulda never known

[robust nebula]

THANK YOU! SO MUCH! LEGIT WASTED HOURS ON THE WRONG VERSION! YOU SAVED ME

[elfin sleet]

i mean atp you might as well go for the superior option cough ryzen cough since youre changing boards anyway

[torpid radish]

My ryzen experiences are worse than intel for gaming by a huuuge margin

[elfin sleet]

When was your last experience with them

[torpid radish]

5900x, driver timeouts out the wazoo even with full resets.

[elfin sleet]

havent experienced tat personally yet

[torpid radish]

I'll just stick with intel for now, it hasn't degraded yet weirdly for how old mine is

[elfin sleet]

but right now if you want top gaming performance you go for AMD

workstation is more contested

[torpid radish]

I'm workstation oriented lol

I compile alot of mods for different games

[elfin sleet]

just remember, the new intels run hot

tbh it always has since 12th gen

[torpid radish]

265k runs cooler than a 13900k lmao

Much lower power consumption

[elfin sleet]

nope same 125w TDP

its about the same if not slightly worse than the 13900k

[torpid radish]

Pl2 tdp rail is 177 vs 253

[elfin sleet]

fair thats max turbo

you get less threads and cores with more or less the same performance and base TDP and a new socket required

[torpid radish]

I'd switch to it if my 13900k does degrade to where they offer a refund for it.

[gilded elk]

i used to get loads of hitches with 5900x too, wasn't it something with tpm

[torpid radish]

dunno gave up on it and bought a 13900k

[oblique roost]

Been on Ryzen for the last 5+ years and agree. Never had driver issues, but definitely get some weird hitching every once in a while. But my desktop is pretty unoptimized as far as gaming devices go. Runs hot. Abused regularly

[gilded elk]

ya with that gen there was a known issue where a tpm instruction can halt the whole system for like half a second

[torpid radish]

I go to sleep now.

[torpid radish]

Current bug: Cant load new map, too tired to debug this late.

nfo : Unity Log] 21.012: [MapLoader] Using Default scene (GameWorldPrefab,Terrain1)
[Info : Unity Log] 21.012: [MapLoader] Found GameWorldPrefab Terrain1
[Info : Unity Log] 21.012: [MapLoader] Loading GameWorld=Assets/Scenes/GameWorld/GameWorld.unity
[Info : Unity Log] 21.012: [MapLoader] Trying to load MapLoader (NuclearOption.SceneLoading.MapLoader)
[Info : Unity Log] 21.012: [MapLoader] Start Load Assets/Scenes/GameWorld/GameWorld.unity

Need to tell MapLoader to load Terrain_naval. if anyone wants to figure that out while i sleep...

[torpid radish]

Disregard I'm dumb

Goodnight

[spiral spade]

how did you fix this? i cant seem to get it to load

[torpid radish]

Fixs for new map and configurable MissionGroup loading.

[spiral spade]

Thank you

[languid cosmos]

I'm trying to get this to work on a dedicated linux box, and so far it does start but I don't see it in the server list. I have set UdpSteam to "udp", the host address to my externally visible IP, and the port to 10230, which I have forwarded on my firewall. Any ideas?

[torpid radish]

Steam has to be running

No exception to that

Logged into a valid steam acc

[languid cosmos]

Steam is / has been running all the time, and logged in.

I also tried leaving udpSteam at the default "steam" but that didn't make my server appear either

[torpid radish]

It's not able to validate your steam auth

[languid cosmos]

Oh. Oooooooh. That could be a problem. I've been running it via wine, of course that won't work x.x
So that means I can't run the game on my main PC while also hosting a dedicated server?

[eager hill]

Correct

Not without a second account

[languid cosmos]

Ouch! Thanks for clearing that up though.

[torpid radish]

You'd still see it in server list, it just would error out if you joined with same acc

[stuck shale]

Hi. Tell me what is better, to use hosting on my pc (12400, 6 (12) x 4.0, DDR 5) or to use a dedicated server (4700mq, 4 (8) x 3.3), DDR 3). In the case of SPT Tarkov, for example, this gives a huge increase fps. And what about here?

[torpid radish]

Single threaded performance is still king

[stuck shale]

Ok need testing

[torpid radish]

Updated my source on github with latest I've been using - mainly just adds launch parameter detection so I can run servers easier

[spiral spade]

do you have a link to your github?:)

[balmy ember]

Not tottaly sure how to find my UDP port but i just have my UDP host set to my public IP, is that correct

actually it just loads infinitely on mission load atm

i guess it is looking for a mission that doesnt exist

dont know how to fix that

[sleek solar]

Sorry if that was asked before but is it still so that the account hosting the server cant join?

[gilded elk]

yes

[torpid radish]

*for now

[sleek solar]

Ok thanks

[torpid radish]

[MOD] JetFox's RCON/Ban Management for Dedicated Servers!

[spiral spade]

LETS GO JETFOX

a god among men

[torpid radish]

Removal of any mission selection/rotation (since dedicated its built in...), fixes steamauth logging.

[wet current]

Among us :O

[spiral spade]

sus

[meager folio]

GOAT

[spiral spade]

T1 is only hosting Absolute Escalation for our PVE server for now as the new hosting method combined with optimization issues is causing heavy lag spikes

[timber latch]

do you know if you are able to join local servers? i seem to have trouble getting a test server set up

[torpid radish]

Yes. i joined my own.

[vague crow]

Above us

[torpid radish]

V1.1 -- WIP MOTD/RCon Messages, still working on assembling a full fake network identity for server to use.

[torpid radish]

RCON Fixes for banning/chat messages, to work with #1419447115293134868

[gilded elk]

works with linux dedicated btw

[strange trellis]

maybe I'm stupid but what does this mod do

cause the initial post does not match up with the title

[gilded elk]

@torpid radish is it ok if I include this in the default mod package for my linux server install script ?

[torpid radish]

Yes

[torpid radish]

Originally just server management for missions now its a way to interact with dedicated servers for messages/bans

[strange trellis]

ahh alright

[strange trellis]

any documentation on how to use it? i cant find anything

like how to format a request to the port it creates, what commands it can do, etc

hmm ok so you just send commands in plain text?

[gilded elk]

#1329805993005289514 message there is an rcon console in that post

[strange trellis]

ahh nice

[gilded elk]

the rcon mod's config.txt governs rcon port and password

[strange trellis]

i just made my own though lol

[timber latch]

thats your own rcon plugin?

[strange trellis]

no just a client to interact with jetfox's

[timber latch]

https://github.com/muji2498/Nuclei/blob/feature/rcon_attempt/Nuclei/Features/RconService.cs

i did try make a rcon server a while back in a fork of nuclei, dont think it works with dedicated servers tho

[timber latch]

ah

[strange trellis]

i was able to make a simple little flask server using the rcon mod to create a player count graph

[strange trellis]

it just counts how many players are on this list and logs it to a .csv file every minute

[meager folio]

😏

[gilded elk]

https://github.com/KopterBuzz/NOServerDocker

[torpid radish]

You can query steam for player online amount via there own api

If you want player names... that would be nice to have via rcon for logging playertime

[strange trellis]

im sure you can but im dumb and this seemed easier lol

[torpid radish]

XD

[fluid wing]

Is the broadcast function working with the newest version of nuclear option for anyone else? MOTD doesn’t appear to be working either

[torpid radish]

I haven't updated the function for broadcast to the new way yet

[gilded elk]

#dedicated-server-info message

[torpid radish]

For broadcast functions lol

[strange trellis]

https://github.com/Shockfront-Studios/Nuclear-Option-Server-Tools/blob/main/ServerCommands/Readme.md ya uhh i think the mod is now obselete, it can handle requests over json to do certain commands

[torpid radish]

if i recall the built in has zero authentication for rcon commands and only runs locally

[strange trellis]

ah true

only way to safely do it over internet would be a vpn i guess

[fluid wing]

I’m in over my head so far

[strange trellis]

wait a minute

USERNAME and PASSWORD: This is for the web panel's Basic Authentication. It is critical that you change the default password to secure your server.

https://github.com/Shockfront-Studios/Nuclear-Option-Server-Tools/tree/main/ServerControlPanel

[fluid wing]

Linux only as far as I can tell

[strange trellis]

so if you only forward the website ip over internet and not the rcon ports it should be safe

[torpid radish]

I dont know what features the web panel has.

and the default rcon is only localhost

it physcically will not bind to an external ip

[strange trellis]

i assume all the same as described in the other readme i sent, it just uses it as an api, but im gonna try it later today

[fluid wing]

My RCON is only set up as local and a discord bot runs commands/gives returns

[strange trellis]

oh then i feel like password authenticated requests is redundant ngl

[torpid radish]

(This is from talks of like 2 months ago i havent looked if its changed)

[strange trellis]

oh, this is brand new

[torpid radish]

(dev discord talk)

for rcon stuff

[strange trellis]

the thing 7ep sent and the github i sent was made public i think yesterday

[torpid radish]

9/29 was the talks of rcon stuff

its just running on tcp localhost, without any auth or anything, so best to make a separate app to handle stuff from outside to pass to the server

[strange trellis]

theres nothing about password authentication in the remote server command readme so i think thats still the same but the web panel is password protected

[torpid radish]

#FreeFoxHosting

[fluid wing]

free email on the top left

[torpid radish]

You'll realize thats the runescape random event character

Lol

[gilded elk]

ya the web panel has basic auth with username and password
the server's actual rcon listener only listens on localhost and has no auth
the web panel just sends rcon commands to the specified port on the localhost
its nice for setups where you have everything on one host, but in my case for example because I use containers, I need one web panel per container 🫠

[gilded elk]

the rcon panel is just a pyhton flask app you can run it on any os...

[fluid wing]

Okay, thanks. I saw .sh and noped out immediately

[gilded elk]

its a few line of bash script get it vibecoded to windows or something

[fluid wing]

(I don't know what I'm doing btw)

[thick crow]

To clarify some things and my intent for the builtin commands:

It only listens on localhost so that the game server process does not need to handle SSL and authentication (mostly because it is a pain to handle those things inside unity)

Instead there should be a separate process (running on the same machine) that forwards commands to the server. ServerControlPanel is an example of this (using Python and Flask to handle SSL certs and Basic Auth), but you can also make your own.

If you want to add extra commands via modding, use the ServerRemoteCommands class and the AddCommands method. Then they will work with the same TcpListen/port as the builtin commands

[eager hill]

I have old code lying around for steam SSO if you're interested

[strange trellis]

cant be bothered to actually setup the server but, this is what the html from the github looks like zoomed out

[torpid radish]

potentially gonna update my panel 😛

[strange trellis]

a cool addition would be receiving messages, like seeing peoples chats from the web panel

[fluid wing]

What I’m currently doing is hodgepodging the moderation mod into a discord webhook and then using the dedicated server command tools and a bot to send messages back

That would certainly be a nice addition