[MOD] Custom Display (HUD and HMD)

[silk jasper]

I'm curious about the update

[rose bear]

Yes it's hard coded in base game

[errant herald]

Did some working around this week and the screen is mostly visible with just some warping on the edges and only two modules cut off going to try and get rid of that as well and hopefully find a way to stretch the screen in a way where I don't have black bars. Hopefully won't need you to add this

[errant herald]

So after testing I can't get the hud to not cut off either the weapon/counter measure or the radar/missle indicator

[errant herald]

@rose bear do you think the radar location and indicator for weapons is hard coded

[rose bear]

Do you mean the mini map on bottom left and weapons/countermeasure on top right ?
They are not hardcoded, they can be modded, moved, changed...

[errant herald]

yes the mini map, you think you could do some adjusting for me?

so the blue border is all cut off, which means no airframe diagram or indicators, and the radar gets warped to be fit on screen, and sicne its in peripherals from my perspective i get maybe 40% of it

the vr is functional though which makes me so happy

[nocturne cliff]

how 3d does it look

[errant herald]

i got it curved pretty well, so you feel in the cockpit

however im using psvr so low quality video, getting a quest 2 sunday to test it

[nocturne cliff]

guh???

[errant herald]

but that is also why there is screen cut off, also the black borders, though i can tune it out

[nocturne cliff]

i have a q3 if yo uwant me to test it on some decently high fov

[rose bear]

I know there are some application to force stereo display on a vr headset

[errant herald]

stereo display?

[rose bear]

Unfortunately this mod is not really meant for this

[errant herald]

yeah, was just wondering if you could test it

again i think i said it a month ago but this benefits maybe like 2 people

[nocturne cliff]

well hmu if you need a q3 test

anyway this isnt the right mod channelk

[rose bear]

That's interesting though, as I played a lot of VTOL VR...

[errant herald]

thats half the reason i wanted to try lol

but yeah probably not the right mod, but if you got advice on modding the hud let me know

[rose bear]

Hi guys, the update 0.28 is probably going to change several things, like CCIP, ILS, but also other stuff under the hood that will break the mod...
I'll wait for after the release to update the mod maybe beginning of July, to avoid too much rework.

[polar sun]

That's cool, any guess on when to expect 0.28 though?

[reef citrus]

very soon™️

[final citrus]

mid july

maybe late

[nocturne cliff]

Im thinking late june but i also have no idea what the current state is

[errant herald]

Ryu said should be out in a few weeks

Late June to early july

[reef citrus]

nobody knows, not him, me, possibly not even mitch. all we know is that its looking pretty close to completion

[hexed minnow]

he says nobody knows to draw away from the fact that literally everyone including devs have said late june

idk why kinda weird

[rose bear]

Work on the update has begun...
Removing the CCIP and ILS, but also have to account for new HUD elements
Soon 🙂

[final citrus]

hell yeah

[solar ravine]

RAHHH I NEED YOUR HUD!! I CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT UR HUDDDDD

[rose bear]

Thanks guys !
Note, the new additions from the devs are really nice...

[solar ravine]

hey, possible to change target icon into somthing else instead of triangel?

idk

[vast dew]

Can you give us a toggle for lead or lag pip

The Lag pip isn't really precise enough for me

[polar sun]

Hey, I've wanted to ask, whether you are going to include the camera limitations in to the next version, because in 0.27 it worked quite poorly and was very anoying to use. And if you are going to include it, can we at least have a toggle to turn it off?

[rose bear]

I'll remove the TGP limitation, it was not a good idea 😅

[final citrus]

@rose bear

[candid plaza]

i do miss it

[lusty coral]

Is it possible to modify minimap display specifically?

For example move plane at the center and add a compass rose to it

Or just hours

[rose bear]

I wanted to do something with the Map, like a different texture and other features...

[lusty coral]

To not have it green with night vision on for example?

[rose bear]

Probably, yes.
Also, I wanted to be able to switch between a few optional background texture : the default one, a topographic version or a classic nav map.

[solar ravine]

also

can u do killed by [weapon type]

Player A killed by Player B [25mm]

[rose bear]

Making some progress... It took me some time to identify what Mitch changed in the HUD / HMD objects 🤔

@vast dew @candid plaza Immediate switch between lag / lead gun pips 🙂

[final citrus]

nice

any eta for release?

[spark shadow]

can we have both?

[rose bear]

lol, I can also put the pip on the target, or right in front of the aircraft if you prefer...

[rose bear]

Hard to say, it depends if you players want it right now, as it is, or if you prefer to wait a little bit so that I can implement some new features ?

[final citrus]

well maybe completely update it for 0.28 , release and then work on new features

[spark shadow]

personally i'd like the current release for .28, then work on whatever you'd like, but in all honesty, it's your workflow, do things however they best fit you

that was way too many commas

[rose bear]

I can release the current version 0.9.7 that works with 0.28.2 of Nuclear Option before the week end

I'll start working on 0.9.8 after that, to include some new stuff : DLZ indicator for missiles, additional map features (custom background texture, custom colour, flight path markers...)

[vale urchin]

Hell yea, thank you so much for your work dude

[vast dew]

Nice

[vast dew]

Could you keep the original lead gun pip? The one you have is much too big

[solar ravine]

can u implement what player actually killed with?? 🥺

[rose bear]

Sorry, I don't really see the interest in that ?
I feel there are already too many kill messages, that would only add to the clutter in my opinion.

[rose bear]

I have added a slider to control the size of the gun pip, that should do it.

[solar ravine]

ahh.. alright
can't wait for the current playable hud :D

[rose bear]

NEW VERSION 0.9.7
28/06/2024 - New version for update 0.28.2 of Nuclear Option :

• Adapted to Mirage networking code
• removed CCIP (included in game)
• removed ILS (included in game)
• removed TGP camera limits
• added switch for gun targeting : lead pip or lag pip
• added slider for gun targeting pip size
• gun lead/lag pip changes color when bullet can hit
• fixed : unit name shown on TGP display
• fixed : increased width of fuel / energy / thrust bars on HUD
• fixed : weapon safety appearing when switching between HMD presets
• fixed : aircraft without airbrakes and/or afterburner could break UI parts
• fixed : RWR was not showing radar sources correctly when ping lines were kept
• fixed : RWR was not displayed for aircraft with radar (Revoker, Medusa, Darkreach)

[stuck wigeon]

F***ing awesome, man. You and other mothers make this game even better than it is

[spark shadow]

problem, using only a single gun doesn't show the gun pip or the crosshair still.

[rose bear]

May have missed that one in my hurry to release the update...
I think I have a fix for that issue.

[stuck wigeon]

Yeah, it happened in the last version as well

[solar ravine]

RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I COULDN'T LIVE WITHOUT THIS MOD!!!

[lusty coral]

PIP doesnt work for me

Ok no now it does

You need to switch weapons first time for that

[final citrus]

yeah thats a age old bug with the mod

@rose bear

[rose bear]

Yep, I'm trying to solve that.
The issue is when you do not switch to guns (ie HUD starts in hud boresight), the code for initialization does not run.
I thought I had a fix, so that the code will check if the icons are active at every update and enable them if that's not the case, but... it does not want to work for some obscure reason 😦
I'll find a solution !

[lusty coral]

For whatever reason I dont remember it in previous version huh

Btw is guns/Lynchpins CCIP is possible with current game code?

[final citrus]

guns already have a "ccip"

its the lag pip

also is this intended? @rose bear

aoa conflicting with the default hud

[lusty coral]

If aim at at ground at any time

I.e. to set up for gun runs earlier

[rose bear]

lol that's strange, because I have not touched the AoA indicator (position, size or color...)

[final citrus]

need to lock the target

[rose bear]

and the option to remove the fuel / thrust gauges just hides / unhides them, it should not move them...

[rose bear]

OK, I got it : in Vanilla, when AoA is displayed, Fuel Gauge is hidden...

[lusty coral]

Lil bit funny how objectives can get shorten sometimes

Moreover it is Absolute Escalation for BDF

[rose bear]

haha, yes, I may increase the length of the string to be displayed or allow wrapping

[final citrus]

can you bring back the feature that when we have something locked, if we open up the map we can see its speed and altitude

[rose bear]

Hmmm... it's still there as far as I know !

[buoyant jackal]

looks good! Buut, maybe green looks better.
i like throttle style, i like times(IRL and ingame)
But sure be better unite in one block IR flares and jammer. What is FASST and EP idk what it is and where it be better be.
on the whole i like that UI, it could be a good alternative for vanilla)

[final citrus]

fasst is flight assist, the g limited
ep is the jammer charge

also you can change the colors

[candid plaza]

yo @rose bear, can the next bugfix be the reticule not showing up after wpn safety pls

[rigid kite]

holy crap, finally i can have a lag pip

[rose bear]

That's solved for next version, as well as the issue with the overlapi AoA indicator and the fuel gauge.
Feel free to point any bug that needs to be fixed before I add new features...

[stuck wigeon]

The selected weapon icon in the top right of the HMD has very jaggy edges, as in "not smooth". Also, te icon itself is somewhat hard to distinguish against the background, as in hard to see for me

Is there a manual explaining what each option configuration does?

[rose bear]

Hi Millermo, indeed the weapon icons can become 'edgy' on different resolutions.
They are however the same as the ones in the game, I only display them a bit smaller.
I can try to 'fill' them, instead of an outline, to make them easier to distinguish ?

[rose bear]

Something like this, maybe ?

Instead of this.

[lean edge]

i've been having that problem too and i think this would look a lot better! maybe 50% opacity if that's possible, so that it doesn't become a blob? but looks great

[vale urchin]

damn looks nice

[stuck wigeon]

Pretty cool, my guy. We can try it

[stuck wigeon]

I'm not entirely sure on the HMD text hide distance or the RWR options

[rigid kite]

so i'm not sure whats happened, but my pip ccip for guns is just gone, and i have no idea how i screwed it up

[spark shadow]

you only have guns equipped?

[rigid kite]

no cannon and 4 sidewinders

no a cannon

and missiles

[rose bear]

The pip is activated when the HUD enters in gun mode, so it's a known bug that it won't show up when there's only gun

try switching between missiles and guns
also, just like in base game, the pip will show up only when a target is selected

[rigid kite]

yeah, i have a target selected and my zamera zoom automatically increases but there was no pip. and i did have sidewinders as well

huh... but with a full payload and weapons on every slot, it works now

[rose bear]

Here you go, I believe it looks better this way.
Let me know what you think.

[vale urchin]

yea looks clean as hell

def less janky than it looks currently

[polar sun]

The visibility on this one is questionable

[rose bear]

Yeah I know, the cyan color might not see much use.
Any suggestion for custom colours, in addition to default green, yellow, white ?

[polar sun]

Purple and red will have very good contrast, but ideally I would just add an option to choose any color (rgb if possible, if not, just a standard set) for the hud, friendlies and enemies. This will allow for the best accessablility for color blind people

[candid plaza]

Better contrast would help 7ep3s with making a machine play NO

[silk jasper]

im pausing that atm in favor of recording / tacview integration

but also since then i realised i can just get telemetry output from the client so wont necessarily need to read the hud with ocr to get instrument readings

am on workcation rn so dont have a lot of computer time but im making some progress

[rose bear]

If you're trying to output aircraft properties (position, speed, accelerations etc..) let me know, that's very easy to export

instead of reading the hud, which might be a pain

[silk jasper]

i just have to finish up and putting the data in tacview friendly format tbh

i already have a recorder etc set up

[candid plaza]

1000% support this decision lol https://discord.com/channels/909034158205059082/1216815063181168770

[rose bear]

Oh great, for the player aircraft or all objects ?
I guess, all objects at 10Hz (every 100ms) will be quite a lot of data already.

[silk jasper]

dont think ill ever make an actual ingame replay but tacview seems to be quite friendly with custom integration

[silk jasper]

yeah that is a massive amount of data, even if compressed

thats another thing i need to add actually, slower data rate for less important objects. currently everything is just 5hz

and tacview can extrapolate lower hz stuff to optimize presentation for sparse refresh rate

[fair sparrow]

@livid elk @torn sigil

[buoyant jackal]

green and blue looks good)

[buoyant jackal]

good think when you add a current weapon)

[stuck wigeon]

Hey @rose bear; I sometimes get this black line that I think blocks distance in the dashboard. I think it's after switching the RWR_option to RWR_Only. Is this intended?
It does not seem to happen in the chopper, but can confirm it does show up in the Revoker and Medusa. Pretty sure other planes as well.
It's happened in the previous version as well.

[reef citrus]

this is the time i think

[final citrus]

mfsx incursion

[rose bear]

Hmm strange, I guess the time display refuses to disappear, I'll check that...
Thanks for spotting 👍

[fair sparrow]

Yesn't

[loud fog]

Hey I am experiencing a major bug with your mod

It works just fine without, I checked

Hold on I have to compress the video significantly

Damnable discord file size limits

The part where I am moving my mouse on the map is me trying to click and drag the map

@rose bear

[vast dew]

Had this problem too, but it was an old version

[loud fog]

This is the current version for me

[silk jasper]

maybe mod needs to be re-compiled again after latest hotfix

[candid plaza]

What mods do you have active?

[loud fog]

Only this one

[candid plaza]

Ha, sorry, it was fixed for me when I disabled my other mods

[silk jasper]

@rose bear stupid question, is there a coordinate for "true north" somewhere in the codebase ?

[cinder fable]

I only have the MissileCam mod. Gonna turn that off though because firing a lot of linchpins lags my game to hell until they hit

Maybe that'll fix it? Gonna check later since I'm tired atm

[rose bear]

That's not stupid, from the top of my head :

• Vector3.x is west
• Vector3.y is up
• Vector3.z is north

For current issues, I'll recompile the mod with the latest hotfix, hoping that will fix it.

[silk jasper]

thanks

[cinder fable]

Nope, Custom Display is the only mod I have active and it still does this to me, I spawn in a plane and instantly it reads that I "crashed" and the craft flips about. @rose bear

[rose bear]

@loud fog and @cinder fable, send me a player.log, so that I can see what went wrong ?

[cinder fable]

Where do I find those?

Oh, found it

AppData\LocalLow\Shockfront\NuclearOption

Just tried loading up free flight and spawning a plane, that's all I did

[rose bear]

It seems you are using an old version of the mod (0.9.6, while latest is 0.9.7)

[cinder fable]

I got it from the pinned message

I wasn't aware there was a 0.9.7

[rose bear]

Latest patch 0.28 breaks the mod, as it introduced a new network entity class

[cinder fable]

Oh, even the 0.9.7 version is broken?

[rose bear]

#1197871249322418216 message

[loud fog]

I'd have to load it up again, I'll do that once I have some free time to do so

[rose bear]

I have a 0.9.8 in the works, with some bug fixes, I'll try to release this week.

Mitch is pumping out patches faster than I can update...

[rose bear]

NEW VERSION 0.9.8
16/07/2024 - New version for update 0.28.5 of Nuclear Option :

• fixed : gun pip not showing when aircraft has only guns
• fixed : AoA display was clashing with Fuel Gauge
• changed the weapon icons to make them more visible
• increased the spacing between the weapon and counter measure icons on HMD

Can a nice <@&1118065368657821747> pin the above message and remove previous one (old version 0.9.6), please ?
Thanks 🙂

[reef citrus]

damn i was about to

[rose bear]

Damn you're fast 🤣

[loud fog]

It works!

[loud fog]

What does the gauge next to the fuel gauge mean?

The EP gauge

[candid plaza]

Capacitor charge

[loud fog]

Oooh

[rose bear]

True, I forgot to change that : it's the electrical power level, ie capacitor charge.

I wanted to rename that to CAP

[candid plaza]

If it becomes more integrated with the planes systems EP would make more sense imo

[stuck wigeon]

Hey @rose bear, i'm definitely getting a duplicate lag gun pip, or "flickering two separate gun pips but alternating"

[spark shadow]

go into the mod settings and eitehr switch to lag or lead pip

if you're already on the one you want, switch from that and switch back

[loud fog]

Whats the difference?

Between lead and lag

[vast dew]

you place your crosshair on the pip for lead, and you place the pip on the target for lag

the pip is your crosshair essentially

[loud fog]

Ah

[vast dew]

@rose bear the rwr you included dosent update fast enough for use in notching

when you have multiple types of missiles inbound it will only show 1 type

[rose bear]

By default the RWR updates every 2s, in line with the default 'radar-like' display.
I may increase that to 1s if that's more convenient.

[vast dew]

could it leave an afterimage of sorts like the ping lines in map?

[rose bear]

Does it happen for all targets ? In your video, you have locked a fast flying missile, which might confuse the script, because missiles have high acceleration and speed values.
The script tries to calculate the expected position of the target after x seconds, in this case it seems to alternate between 2 positions very fast.
I may have to apply caps to speed and acceleration values...

[rose bear]

I may change how the script updates the RWR, with 1 loop for radars every 2s and 1 loop for missiles every 1s or less.

[vast dew]

yes thatll be nice

hope we can have real time updates for incoming missiles, would be real useful for notching

[rose bear]

Someone (I think @maiden estuary) suggested to add a visual indication on the HMD to help with notching the closest incoming missile, similar to the new landing assistance indicating where to point your speed vector.
I'll steal that idea and try to implement something for 0.9.9 😉

[vast dew]

nice

thanks

[rose bear]

OK, it seems it happens now for targets outside of gun range.
There must have been a change in the code for 0.28.5 I didn't check, sorry.

[stuck wigeon]

Indeed. When I get in range I get a single, correct pip. @spark shadow suggested switching pip type back and forth, which made the flickering between the two alternating pips happen faster, but otherwise not fixing the issue.

[spark shadow]

for me the bug ahs been mostly fixed; only issue is that the pip stays on the crosshair when out of range and becomes static when leaving gun range

[vapid nova]

can you add an option moving the rwr map more to the center

[vapid nova]

or for immersion paste it to one of the MFDs in the cockpit

[rose bear]

I hope I have fixed all issues with the gun pip not showing or moving all over the place, as my previous fix lacked a check for distance and if the pip should be enabled or not...
At the same time, I also solved some issues for RWR / MWS, so that the missiles refresh must faster than radar pings, making it easier to notch.

Oh... and also, new incoming feature 🙂

Made it so the camera does not look too much down, to limit risk of getting disoriented.
Using the "Center View" button to cycle between front view and target view.

[candid plaza]

🤣

someone asks the devs for something
likes it
Devs don't add it immediately
Makes it himself

(Also 1234 messages 🙃)

[rose bear]

Hey, a modder will always be faster than any dev to add feature.
I just have a script to modify, a dll to recompile and move to UMM, that's 150kb of data at most.
Mitch has to compile the whole game project, issue a patch and publish to Steam 1Gb of data...

Note, I think my math teacher would have slapped me in the face with a sledgehammer if he saw me coding this... It seems I forgot a lot of things about trigonometry 😅

[candid plaza]

I know that feeling lol, coding a gbu 12 and forgetting basic tan-1 trigonometry

[latent vapor]

Now I think a lot of this is awesome but when does it start crossing a line where people with the mod has a unfair advantage?

[rose bear]

I know, and understand the concern.
Just like the CCIP, this may get included in base game, if we ask nicely repeatedly.

[rose bear]

I made a subtle suggestion to the devs 😉

[rose bear]

I wanted to do that initially, but it makes the map hardly readable
And moving the map to the center bottm of the screen will hide the cockpit in default view. I find it ok in the current location.

[vale urchin]

target lock is a great feature, especially for people without track IR

[spark shadow]

opentrack is free and works off of webcam

still useful though

[vale urchin]

I dont have a webcam lol

and I dont want one, used to have one where the light that meant it was recording would flash on randomly

was just shitty but still scary lol

[leaden junco]

that made my jaw drop

[leaden junco]

yeah but i personally dont like tracking with my head

toggle target lock looks much more appealing

[lusty coral]

Did you managed to bolt in padlock?

[lusty coral]

Then having Track IR or OpenTrack is unfair advantage, I can track that with my head, and it isnt DCS/Il-2 where there is no marker over enemy plane which makes it even easier.

[vapid nova]

it´s not about unfair or fair advantages but rather about how is the original gameplay designed to be

[rose bear]

I think the point raised by Kia is more regarding the easier notching of missiles thanks to the RWR / MWS display, rather than padlock.
As you say, users of TrackIR (including me) have a physical advantage vs the ones without, just like users with wide screens or powerful PCs have an advantage vs players with more humble configs.

[vapid nova]

yeah i havent tested it yet, but reading the description it would also be my concern. if the ping refresh rate is higher or however that works that would b an advantage that goes against the inital intention possibly.

[lusty coral]

Its update rate would still bad enough for it to not be a problem. Minimap is more precise, you just need to make incoming radar line parallel to screen edge and thats it. Something like compass rose around aircraft on minimap would be pretty broken, however.

[vapid nova]

In the end it is very subjective, maybe something like ReadyOrNot is fine where the host can choose to have pure clients or not

[spark shadow]

@rustic lake

[rustic lake]

my man

[loud fog]

When an enemy is outside of gun range, the lag pip flashes between the HUD corners and it's extremely distracting

[final citrus]

known

[rose bear]

Yes that's a rather new issue with last version, I'll release an update this weekend before leaving in vacations.

[silk jasper]

thats a very clever way to add padlock without needing more buttons 💯

[lost stratus]

Is there going to be an option where you can see your target screen in color? i kinda miss it :(

[silver linden]

got curious about the padlock feature and tried it, but doesnt seem to work

oh never mind, just installed it wrong
it does work

[spark shadow]

trying padlock, isn't working?

locked and spamming my center view keybind

everything else works and i'm on .99

[final citrus]

you need to hold right click

thats when it locks

pretty useless since you cant retain mouse controls but

yeah

[rose bear]

You should rebind your center view key.
Also, you should not have to hold the key, as it's a 'cycle through' option : press once, padlock, press again center view.

[rose bear]

I felt the color screen was less interesting, but maybe as an option for next version yeah.
At this stage, I may do one more version of the mod when the next big game update is released (0.29.0).

[candid plaza]

Shut shut shut. enjoy your vacation before coming back here

[rose bear]

I'll be away most of August, so I'll reopen the project only in September, just in time for 0.29 🙂

[spark shadow]

figured out the fix, disable trackir input and it'l work

[solar ravine]

i thought when padlock is activated, it automatically aiming the target without holding RMB since it used for movement, correct me if im wrong

[clever dune]

@vague geyser

[vague geyser]

what folder do i put it in

[clever dune]

Check instructions in pinned messages

[vague geyser]

out of these

downloading umm rn

do i put it in nuclear option

[clever dune]

Usually umm creating mods folder

[rose bear]

Please refer to the ReadMe in the zip file

[vague geyser]

in the umm or the hud im stupid

[rose bear]

The zip file of the mod attached in this thread..

[vague geyser]

found it

[rose bear]

And or refer to the pinned message giving instructions

[vague geyser]

Ok

[vague geyser]

im figuring out how to install umm

LOL

[vague geyser]

when i open downloader for UMM windows defender comes along

hello

lol

ok its done

help me

[vague geyser]

help

[rose bear]

Sorry I'm busy and on my mobile now...
All instructions are in the readme and in pinned message.
Did you have a look ?

[vague geyser]

Hold up

Im here rn

[vague geyser]

im following your readme it told me to go there

its not letting me put nuclear option

(its going off microsoft edge)

and im left in the dark of course i a am

[clever dune]

I just got busy

[clever dune]

It's opens edge rright?

[vague geyser]

yes

is that the problem

[clever dune]

Try open as..

And anything for text editing

[vague geyser]

open as what

how do i do that

[clever dune]

Rclick on xml file and open as....

[spark shadow]

you did extract it, right?

[clever dune]

ah 11 Windows yeah

Properties

And open as...

[vague geyser]

no clue

[spark shadow]

take the screenshot again but zoom out

[clever dune]

Damn 11win

[vague geyser]

win11 being not nice

[spark shadow]

no offence dude but you need to be a little more tech literate

extract the file, then you can do the open with

[vague geyser]

Ok

[vague geyser]

i extracted all

i just hit replace

[spark shadow]

yeah go ahead

[vague geyser]

this is my first time dealing with stuff like this

let me share my screen

room 1

[spark shadow]

^fixed the thing together

[vague geyser]

@rose bear im not getting the orange lines here

[candid plaza]

Go to the settings there should be rwr no ping lines switch it to rwr only that should do it iirc

[vague geyser]

What is it under

[candid plaza]

2s

You see the menu which pops up at the start, there you click on display mod, then there should be a box called rwr no ping lines

[vague geyser]

Ok

[rose bear]

Did you manage to set it up properly ?
Ingame you can press CTRL+F10 to access the mod menu and the options.
Some can be changed in flight, like colors, others require a respawn/ restart.

Thanks guys for helping new joiners 👍

[vague geyser]

Ye i fixed it

[clever dune]

@static kettle

[lusty coral]

Currently if you select multiple targets and fire one weapon it will guide on the last selected target. Is it possible to somehow highlight "last selected" via colour or something?

[solar ravine]

um, it is possible to change enemy target color to Green and when targeted change into red

hm, also when msl start chasing also turned into red

[queen topaz]

yeah selected targets having a stand-out colour from the rest of the hud would be good

[vague geyser]

@cosmic iris

check this out

[final citrus]

@rose bear any way i can edit to make this setting go lower

[candid plaza]

Btw what does it do exactly?

[final citrus]

so that increases/decreases the distance required to display the hmd from the main hud

[candid plaza]

Oh ty, yes then. I thought it was about draw distance

[silk jasper]

mod manager serialises settings into an xml file in the mod folder so you can try to play with it

[final citrus]

need to figure out which one

[dapper anvil]

Hey Patabor I absolutely love this mod especially because of the option for a lag pip for guns, but I'm just wondering if there's any plans to make the modded HUD elements use the same font as the vanilla one for parity's sake?

[vague geyser]

How do you change the waypoints

[candid plaza]

Explain please

[vague geyser]

so they arent like this

and are like the vanilla waypoints

[candid plaza]

You want them in the circles

?

If so it's not possible rn but maybe in a later update

[hexed minnow]

what exactly do you want to be done differently nvm last msgs didnt load till after i said that

[rose bear]

Ok, I may provide more options for waypoints.
I had the same issue with some of Rng mission where you have to fly through WP to activate options

[vague geyser]

Ty

[spark shadow]

hey, whenever you get back from hibernating, is there any chance we could get a combo lag+lead pip?

i love having the lag pip but it's super unreliable in longer range; i love having the lead pip for longer range, but it feels somewhat imprecise

could you somehow combine the two without cluttering the screen? love your work dude

[final citrus]

yeah if we're a bit further back the lag pip just dances around without us being able to pull in

[rose bear]

I'm in vacations right now, doing a road trip around Yucatan, I'll be back on the 22nd of August.
Regarding your request, I don't really see how that would work and I feel it would be very confusing.
Do you have a reference ?
Usually it's either lag or lead, not both.

[spark shadow]

my thoughts are having some kind of crosshair or indicator for lag as we have right now, and the default circle like in the game default

you'd be using the lead for getting a general idea where to shoot or having long range potential, but using the lag for more precision

[rose bear]

I "may" have an idea, I'll try when I get back

[sterile moss]

good luck, and have fun on your trip, brother

[vague geyser]

The lag pip more than 0.8 nm does weird stuff

and he wants both the lag pip and the lead pip together

[loud fog]

Shouldn't Glidebombs be labeled as Standoff at the top?

[clever dune]

@gentle sonnet

[gentle sonnet]

👍

[gentle sonnet]

ok i got the mod

[clever dune]

Don't forget to Ctrl+F10 to tweak settings

[gentle sonnet]

thanks

[reef citrus]

thats not a slight bug man that a huge issue

probably better to DM instead

[spark shadow]

i call it a small bug because im gonna kill ya regardless

you were able to read that?

[rose bear]

That's the same issue as the mini map showing the exact location of enemy units, even when their datalink is outdated

I'll correct it with next update

[lucid hemlock]

For custom missions that require you to fly through a waypoint, how do you change the hud it so that you can see the waypoint from far away? Currently, I only see the waypoints when I'm very close and that makes it very hard to trigger mission objectives

[candid plaza]

#1197871249322418216 message but he's in vacation rn

[lucid hemlock]

Got it

[loud fog]

Is it possible to make the lead camera thing optional? I find it gets in the way more than it helps

[candid plaza]

#1197871249322418216 message this?

[rose bear]

Hi mates, I'm back from vacations !
I know there are some issues with the mod, I'll see what I can correct / make optional :

• correct padlock pointing to exact target location instead of last known position
• improve waypoints display
• improve objectives map markers
  Anything else ?

[dapper anvil]

@rose bear perhaps making the fonts of the custom HUD elements match the base game ones?

[final citrus]

throttle color is bugged

also, #1197871249322418216 message

and potentially this #1197871249322418216 message

[gleaming dome]

i've noticed when aiming at an enemy the crosshair/lead indicator stays in the same position on my hud as it was at the time of disengaging the target

[loud fog]

Yes

[candid plaza]

Well, Patator... Guess she wants a toggle now that you're working on the mod again 🙃

[clever dune]

Tac-screen causing huge fps drop
I noticed a problem with RWR screen: after receiving couple arh radar pings it breaks ( displaying incorrectly, overdetecting radar sources) and as a result causing fatal performance loss. Bug is not presented in previous versions of mod. In logs, multiple "NullReferenceException" errors of tacScreen [related to 1st video] Here's examples of it:

[spark shadow]

oh, that explains why i didn't get the same fps drops you were getting, i had the RWR/MWS disabled; try disabling that as a temporary solution

[rose bear]

Thanks for the detailed report with videos and log, that's very clear.
I'll investigate that part !

I need to add a few checks for null objects in TacScreen

[candid plaza]

That explains the sudden frame drops which go away after ejecting or changing plane

[stuck wigeon]

Ooooohhhhh, this was happening to me as well. Good to know it's coming from the mod!

[stuck wigeon]

I'm still getting that black line on the dashboard

[rose bear]

Gents, I considered various options for the future and I don't think I'll update the mod

I'll stop modding for a little while, in fact

Thanks all for your support !

[vast dew]

OMG developer tag

[candid plaza]

@rose bear, you're up there right bellow mitch ! Well done. Hope you'll like that

[gleaming dome]

🫡
(semi-related note: does this mean the twitch page becomes active again?)

[final citrus]

rest in peace this mod then

[gleaming dome]

on the bright side, might become vanilla?

[final citrus]

@rose bear real?

bit stupid to not have a hmd in the 2070s

[spark shadow]

will we still get bug fixes and the such?

[dapper anvil]

god I hope so

[lusty coral]

If I had a nickel it happened in the Unity game development I follow in the past 2 years, it would be 2 nickels, which isnt a lot but its odd it happened twice on such a short timeframe

[rose bear]

Indeed, I changed colors...
So expect this mod to slowly get implemented into the base game, which hopefully will remove the issues between users and non-users of the mod.

[vast dew]

Do you get paid now by mitch

[loud fog]

🎉

[lucid hemlock]

🎉

[autumn jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-laughing-happy-sad-bipolar-gif-9777832

POV you now ascending out of the peasants:

https://tenor.com/view/ascending-heaven-keanu-reeves-constantine-ascending-to-heaven-gif-11437079898090715826

[severe tree]

based

[polar sun]

Hey, I'm pretty sure there was 0.9.9, but I can't find it now and the version pined is 0.9.8 with broken PIP. Am I missing something?

[reef citrus]

this mod is now discontinued

on the bright side…

its coming into the base game

patator is hard at work developing these features from the ground up with enhanced functionality, playtesting and better UI

[rose bear]

Indeed, I suggest to lock this thread once for all... there won't ever be a v1.0.0 😅
As you mention, most features will slowly find their way into the game now, if I manage convince Mitch !

Thanks !