HORSEY TIME ZEEHAW

[muted ridge]

Yea

If too many zombies are around, you can get dragged down too

[brisk iris]

Yeah it makes you much more susceptible to get wounded:

            int int1 = 15 + this.getParentChar().getMeleeCombatMod(); -- Sratch
            int int2 = 85;                                            -- Bite
            int int3 = 65;                                            -- Laceration
            ...
            int int4 = this.getParentChar().getSurroundingAttackingZombies();
            int4 = Math.max(int4, 1);
            int1 -= (int4 - 1) * 10;
            int2 -= (int4 - 1) * 30;
            int3 -= (int4 - 1) * 15;

The int1/2/3 are the values used when rolling for wound severity

I guess it's just the surrounding attacking zombies, so not just the amount around, but actively attacking the player

I've added a system that slowly applies pain to the player thighs and groin when riding the horse (maxes out at 20 pain), with the saddle making it even slower to build up and has a lower max pain point

[muted ridge]

Nice

[agile shoal]

Make it double for male characters

[brisk iris]

We should probably start thinking about stuff like what to name the mod, what to use for the poster etc.
There's honestly not much left to do

[agile shoal]

Ikr its exciting

Probably name it just Horses I guess? Simpler is usually better

[short cloak]

yeah i was expecting something like that

[agile shoal]

We can whip up a cool render in Blender

[short cloak]

everyone's going to call it 'the horse mod' anyway

[brisk iris]

Makes perfect sense to me!

[agile shoal]

Maybe Horses [B42] because there will be people asking for B41 (although there's no stopping them lol)

But that may imply the existence of Horses [B41] so maybe not

[muted ridge]

HORSEY TIME ZEEHAW

[muted ridge]

Kind of true lol

Tbf just naming it "Horses" is fine

And yea we can easily expect such a mod to go fucking nuclear on the Workshop

[brisk iris]

Is anyone in the group good with mapping stuff?
I got some advice from Blackshot over in the mapping discord about the spawn stuff, but I don't know shit about mapping so if someone knows more about it maybe they can take a look #1412135882777170013 message

[muted ridge]

So it's not like the name is going to matter, just show a simple clip and you already got a million subs lol, especially as the mod is known about by the community with the few posts we made about it around and some even still ask about it

[muted ridge]

I don't know shit about mapping either, why do you need mapping ?

[brisk iris]

Very true lmao

[muted ridge]

Aaah animal zones

[brisk iris]

If we wanted to set up new spawn points and stuff for it

[muted ridge]

Idk if we can easily add new ones ...

[brisk iris]

Blackshot posted a new guide for how to do it just a few days ago

and I think it should work as long as the game lets us use any animal type that we define

[muted ridge]

Yea but for custom maps he shared that no ?

What about adding new zones to existing maps ?

[short cloak]

that is how zones are normally added but ideally we should do this without adding a map, as that would make the mod unremovable

[brisk iris]

Oh maybe, I figured it would be the same method

[short cloak]

also would increase user error by about a thousand times

[brisk iris]

ah okay I see, it's more involved than I thought then

[short cloak]

i think zones can be modified at runtime with lua

[brisk iris]

Then yeah let's just see if we can piggyback off the cow spawn or something

[short cloak]

i'll look into it later

[agile shoal]

Not sure what's happening but some of the bones have suuuper fucked up shading

[silver holly]

@brisk iris @muted ridge @agile shoal @short cloak Project Horsey (B42) is my official vote!!

[muted ridge]

Sounds complicated for nothing

[silver holly]

Maybe we can get a clip of the horse rearing and gif that 🙂

[silver holly]

Project Horsey?

[muted ridge]

Why Project ?

[silver holly]

Because it's fun and a play on project zomboid 🙂

We should vote on it honestly

[muted ridge]

Yea

[silver holly]

What do you think it should be? You said just the word "Horses" ???

[muted ridge]

Yea

Isn't that what we're modding ?

Also for such a major project, having THE horse word is something haha

[agile shoal]

I do think that just calling it Horses is best, although I do like the whimsy of Project Horsey

I do believe that simpler is better

[silver holly]

Aha sure 😊

What does everyone think?

❤️ "Horses" , "Project Horsey" 🐴 or "Horsey Time ZEEHAW" 🤠

[muted ridge]

I even find Horsey Time ZEEHAW better than Project Horsey

[silver holly]

I'd vote for horsey time, even though it's even more complicated lmao

I just feel like horses is so plain 🥺

[muted ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/jeonghan-horse-on-beach-jeonghan-man-jeonghan-jeonghan-silly-horse-on-beach-man-gif-13991646989968971533

Hits like that

[agile shoal]

I agree, but I think its necessary

[silver holly]

Um only one of those is a man?

[agile shoal]

This isnt necesarially a 'personality' mod rather than a major addition mod if that makes sense

More personalized mods generally have fancier and crazy names

But the more general a feature, like an animal, I think the simpler the name should be

That's just how I see it

[silver holly]

SIGHH but

[muted ridge]

[agile shoal]

I knowwwww haha

[silver holly]

Lol I'm not actually sweating it's not a big problem

im actually making multiple discord accounts right now to vote 😊 /jk

What do you guys think the picture/gif thing should be? O: I really think it should be the horse rearing that would be cool - Or that video of the character smoking on horseback

[muted ridge]

You know what, I just got an idea

Have the camera pointing up, and the horse comes up to the camera, this will make its head pop up from bottom top top, and you'll have a POV from a low point from the horse head

Not too low of a camera

Wait let me open Blender and the horse model

[agile shoal]

I was thinking a cool action shot of the character striking a pose on the horse in the sunset

[brisk iris]

I could try making a rearing pose for sure

[agile shoal]

THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING

[silver holly]

That's what I had in mind too when I mentioned rearing 🙂

[agile shoal]

Oh wait thats ai slop ew

[silver holly]

Ohhh let's see it!!!

[silver holly]

😭 shit I couldn't tell

[agile shoal]

Its a fucking nightmare

[silver holly]

Also while we're thinking about it, I think I wanna go through and upload another layer of shading on the horses - It looks so much lighter in game.

[agile shoal]

Im not sure, I think its looks good now? Ideally we want to match the level of detail of the base game animal textures

[muted ridge]

Won't be animated, but first and last frame, camera stays still, horse walks to the camera

[muted ridge]

Good idea too yea

[silver holly]

That's fun 🙂

[silver holly]

Ya think so? I kept looking at the palomino and second guessing it - Idk

[muted ridge]

Hmm my idea isn't that good

[silver holly]

But it is 🙁 It's a fun idea I like it

[agile shoal]

Id argue we shouldnt have a gif as the icon

[muted ridge]

Of course

That goes without saying lmao

[agile shoal]

Oh I thought that was what you were saying

[muted ridge]

I literally made a tool to make it easy to upload gif previews lol

If the horse mod doesn't have an animated preview, I will be sad as shit

You know, maybe we shouldn't have a character, and just the horse

[agile shoal]

We should have the character riding the horse since thats the big draw

[silver holly]

I think an animated preview would be cool and eye catching! It might not translate well, however.

And yes we should have the character riding the horse because there ARE other horse mods, but none of them have the ability of being ridable

[muted ridge]

A view of a horse in a plain, having the various animations of grazing, idle, maybe a camera with a small sway motion due to the wind, have the horse play some animations

The pros is that the preview can easily be looped that way, while with a character, idk not that easily looped

[short cloak]

i kinda find gif previews tacky 😅

[muted ridge]

wdym ?

[agile shoal]

People arent gonna want the mod to see a horse grazing, theyre gonna want the mod to ride horses

[agile shoal]

I do too

[muted ridge]

Yea, we could easily add a lot of other preview images in the mod itself

People see horse, click, get animations of horse riding in-game

[agile shoal]

For sure, but the main focus should be the riding

[muted ridge]

Eh

[agile shoal]

Nah

[muted ridge]

It's about the cinema !

[silver holly]

Let's vote!!

Gif preview ✅ Picture 🏞️ Character on horse 🤠 or Horse only 🐴

[muted ridge]

Emotions, steps to reach the final and the reward you know

[agile shoal]

Of a horse just grazing? I dont see it

[muted ridge]

Show horse, make people curious, they click, and get an even bigger reward for having clicked 👀

[agile shoal]

Why not just show the horse riding from the get go

[muted ridge]

Bcs ugly framing :(

[agile shoal]

Only if its a gif

[muted ridge]

And like I said, it's about the journey you know

[agile shoal]

Which I dont see a need for

[muted ridge]

You don't want a gif ?

[agile shoal]

I don't really care about the steam workshop journey

[silver holly]

@agile shoal @muted ridge you guys can both make your versions and we can vote on it 🙂 In the end both would end up being added

[muted ridge]

Throwing me a challenge here haha, maybe it'll be my time to get back to making renders

[silver holly]

Hell yeah

[muted ridge]

I hope there isn't a limit on when I have to send this because I've got way too many projects rn 😅

Jeez the next month or two are going to be rough

[silver holly]

No rush and absolutely no pressure!! I'm not sure when it's gonna be done, but it sounds like within the next few weeks/possibly few months(?)

[agile shoal]

Already have something that might work as a background haha

[silver holly]

Pretty!!!!! Is that in game?

[agile shoal]

No thats a render I made

[muted ridge]

Nah

You can't make that in-game lmao

[silver holly]

I haven't played pz in months, idk what's been added haha

[silver holly]

That's so pretty great work o:

[agile shoal]

Aw thanks, I havent done anything with it but I might sometime

I'll get that skeleton done soon and send it over for painting

[foggy jewel]

yeah guys, posting this to the workshop— it’ll reach top of the charts instantly lol

absolutely fantastic work! ✨

[agile shoal]

Id imagine, its been a big request for a while

[foggy jewel]

honestly, i’ve been playing the game since early b41. It’s safe to say the request has been out there

once b42 multiplayer hits, folks are going to go even crazier about the mod for sure lol

[silver holly]

I was really so happy and astonished and amazed by my mod commission being accepted AND FURTHERMORE fucking mind boggled when it turned into such a big community project

I know I've said it a hundred times before but I am so incredibly thankful for everyone who has helped and contributed.
This has felt like such a unique and fun and terrific and productive community project that it's hard to believe it's real and about to come to fruition.

[silver holly]

also! if albion isn't able to figure something out @gloomy gate may be able to help? o:

[astral rover]

Thats really damn nice

[agile shoal]

Heres hoping it doesnt break much haha

[silver holly]

we'll know every bug within the first hour by reading the comments, i'm sure

[astral rover]

Who's going to post the mod

I think it should be alex

He's the main coder

[silver holly]

ya know i was thinking about that and i kinda had the same thought!

[astral rover]

I also make blender renders too y'know 💀, but yeah, Alex is pretty much the most capable person here to actually fix bugs and implement multiplayer

[slender plank]

I've legit been asking for this mod for 3 years 😂. Damn I've played Zomboid a long time

[brisk iris]

It should be weeks rather than months for sure. I can't think of any major feature or system left to figure out other than spawning.

I've tested all animal stuff, mating, grazing, luring, feeding, baby/mother behavior, trailer, butchering and idle stuff.

Sounds are in and all basic animations (except hand feeding and falling off) are implemented.

Everything else like the riding skill and extended behavior/moves can come later imo after launch

[silver holly]

oh i know! your work for the saddle was terrific 🙂 it's perfect and i haven't forgotten about that, thank you.

[brisk iris]

I'd be honored to post! But co-authors is a thing on steam right?

[astral rover]

I've seen that some mods requiere complete re-installs. is that steam's issue or zomboids??

[brisk iris]

You mean like unsub and resub to a mod?

[silver holly]

this is so exciting!!!!!!

[astral rover]

yeah!

[brisk iris]

I think it's a steam workshop thing with not properly cleaning files that were deleted or something like that

[thin crescent]

this for the workshop page? if so one of yall for sure gotta recreate the famous TWD pic with PZ assets

that would be wallpaper worthy

I love that scene

[gloomy gate]

Yeah, ask me anything about mapping, my paypal is: XD just kidding

If I know the answer, I'll gladly give it to you guys

[silver holly]

@brisk iris #1412135882777170013 message I think it was about animal spawning?

@astral rover@short cloak could i dm you two? 🙂

[short cloak]

sure, go ahead

[astral rover]

Go ahead, I still don't really understand that whole Dm thing

WildWest Style!

[gloomy gate]

Seems they have figured it out, but if you have questions feel free to hit me up

I haven't done much 42 stuff of anything (still stuck making shit for 41) but this is essentially just about objects.lua and then likely creating your own definition just like you have to do with clothing if you want it to spawn on zombies. That's where I'd start looking if it didn't work.

[silver holly]

This looks terrific!!

[mighty flower]

I support the idea

[astral rover]

Hmm....

[agile shoal]

Its a little rough but I think it will work!

Now let me UV unwrap it to texture it

[agile shoal]

Here's the skeleton fbx! Let me know how it works in game @brisk iris

And here's the Blend file with the skeleton that you can work on @silver holly

[silver holly]

Amazing o: you did this so fast

[narrow lynx]

It would be nice if corpses could be moved with the horse. Just an idea for a future update

[dawn geyser]

Also specific slots for tent/sleeping bag

And this for carry

[brisk iris]

Oh sick, thank you! I will test it today

[brisk iris]

Do you think you could do this as well when you have time? 🙏

1. Separate the head into its own mesh so it can be made into a "Horse head" item
2. Make the headless horse into its own mesh
3. Repeat step 1 and 2 for the skeleton

[brisk iris]

Yeah works perfectly Just needs the textures

[brisk iris]

Horses now spawn in ranch zones, works on existing saves as well 😄

[thin crescent]

I seriously can't wait to just ride around the map on one of these bad boys

feels like yall are getting close

[slender plank]

This is going to be epic coupled with a 10yr later run 🙌

Speaking of, how does it's speed get effected by moving through bushes? I can see a lot of people using the bushes in the road version of 10yr later mod with this

[brisk iris]

I was gonna just make it slower running through trees and bushes, but not like a crazy amount like humans.
Maybe 25-30% slower in trees/bushes?

[mighty flower]

Wasn't it that in “10 Years Later” there were only wild animals because the farm animals appeared dead? Or did they fix it?

[mighty flower]

Although I also think it would be good to make it so you couldn't gallop between the trees

[slender plank]

Oh I'm not too sure on that one, I'm pretty much still on B41 MP. But this mod will definitely have me jumping into B42. Just need them to patch Steam deck control support and I'll be happy haha

[mighty flower]

I heard that if you play several months or years after the apocalypse, the animals (except for wild ones) appear dead.

[slender plank]

Maybe horses need to also spawn as wild to avoid people asking where they all are when doing those runs

[restive steppe]

Could just add the option in settings

[astral rover]

Pretty sure there is no taming wild animals implemented into zomboids logic fo animals...

[dawn geyser]

taming no but there is a system of trust, more u pet the animal more this will be less stressed by your presence

can i ask a questuin about the animal system? now that u saw it there is anything about temperature of the animals?

[brisk iris]

Haven't seen anything regarding that tbh, but there could be something. I can check

[brisk iris]

Oh, there's no "feed from hand" animations for vanilla animals?
Still gonna put mine in I guess

[brisk iris]

Yum yum

[mighty flower]

The level at which they are taking the mod and the horse itself as an animal will make them even better than the vanilla animals themselves.

By the way, is there an animation of the horse being inactive or something like that, moving its tail?

[fast thistle]

Can we get the horse loaf thank you

[brisk iris]

Yeah there's a few idle animations, like one where it lowers its head and raises a back leg to rest it.
One where it scratches the ground with a hoof and one where it twists its ears a bit

[mighty flower]

In fact, most farm animals have that.

[brisk iris]

What is horse loaf?

[agile shoal]

Maybe they're talking about how animals like cats assume the 'loaf' position

[brisk iris]

Ooooh

[mighty flower]

https://tenor.com/view/mare-rest-horse-horses-gif-25488606

[brisk iris]

I'm gonna implement this one yeah

Just need to make the standing back up animation

[silver holly]

Horses look like they're about to break their legs when they go to stand

[ebon flame]

@brisk iris you removed the mod from github? or moved somewhere else?

[muted ridge]

It's in the main repo

[ebon flame]

This one? https://github.com/JBG84/HorseMod
(It's 4 months old)

[muted ridge]

Check the pinned messages

I think Alex pushed it in the main the other day

[ebon flame]

I think the repo is private for now

[brisk iris]

Yeah we turned it private for now as we get closer to release

[ebon flame]

All right, if you need more testers, please let me know

[brisk iris]

Thank you, will do!

Standing up animation needs some tweaking, but horse loaf is in

[warm sapphire]

you're so good

[thin crescent]

will you need to use the context menu to get on them all the time or would e work like your bike and cars?

[brisk iris]

It works using E, but you have to be facing the horse instead of just being close to it, and it also checks where you are standing. So if you are standing in front of the horse and press E then you will go pet it, but if you are near the sides you will mount it

[thin crescent]

that's pretty cool. tho I would probably recommend making those other actions happen via the radial menu. I can picture myself and a lot of people getting super mad over being killed by zeds when you try to mount your horse and pet it instead

radial menu could be like rdr2 (1 millionth time making that comparison) option to feed, pet, clean, maybe access pouches?

you get what I mean

[brisk iris]

Ah yeah I get you, radial would be nice for sure. Right now all that stuff is in the context menu. We'll probably end up doing both, so you can press V next to the horse to bring up radial with all those, or you can access them using context menu.

I've done some radial menu stuff before, I can probably whip it up pretty quick, I'll give it a try

[thin crescent]

nice. yea that would be awesome! I know the devs had gotten a lot of flak for removing a lot of stuff from the context menu rightfully so since barricading is a pain now but I can understand why they are. If you are running a hefty mod pack that think is just a mess of options

[brisk iris]

Yeah I can see why they wanna move away from it for sure, it gets real messy real quick

[thin crescent]

they need to find a way to not rely on it while also keeping the easy to acces reliability it offers. the build menu is just to tedious for something like barricading. it also doesn't help that the building and crafting menu aren't the greatest in their current state. If they really wanted to remove it and make things more controller friendly it should have been added to the building menu alongside making it a radial menu action if you are near a window with the needed tools.

that is how you do it the right way

[muted ridge]

Oh yea I can't see it me neither

[short cloak]

yeah we decided to make it private for the last leg of development

[muted ridge]

Yea sounds normal

[brisk iris]

😁 🤙

[silver holly]

Fucking fantastic!!!!

[short cloak]

beautiful!

[formal tiger]

I love to check how the progress is going here, this gonna be nuts in the workshop people will love it for sure

[limber plinth]

Yeehaw

[dawn geyser]

absolutely fantastic!!!!

[worn tree]

It's too peak!!!

[mighty flower]

I'm excited to see us fall off the horse

https://tenor.com/view/horse-fail-mood-riding-throw-gif-11337106

[brisk iris]

Got saddlebags working 😄

[agile shoal]

Awesome!

Maybe the capacity should be around 35? Or maybe even more

[ebon flame]

Amazing! 🤩 Do you think in the future would be possible to “attach” an animal body to the horse, like we have in rdr2 for example? Like a carry carcass system
(Of course we could put in the inventory, but showing the model outside would be so cool!)

[agile shoal]

Oooo thats a good idea

We will see! We're focused on getting an initial first release out before making too many more features but its something to keep in mind

[brisk iris]

I was thinking like 40, so it's 20 for each bag which would be reasonable for a bag of that size imo

[brisk iris]

Technically yes, I could make new death poses for all the animals and save them as items instead (like the animal carcasses) which could be attached to the horse to represent the dead animal. Basically despawning the actual dead body object, spawning a new corpse item, attach it to the horse, and then spawn the dead body object back when detaching it from the horse

But as Paddlefruit said, that would be for later 😄

[mighty flower]

I say 20 is fine, otherwise it would be like carrying a generator on your horse.

[brisk iris]

That's true, 40 is pretty heavy. I'd like it to be a pretty good alternative for cars, even for loot runs, that's why I was aiming high. I could make it a sandbox option so you can customize it

[agile shoal]

I mean encumbrance is an abstraction of weight and how unweildy something is

Horses can carry around 200 pounds so I dont think the range of 35 is too bad

[muted ridge]

Yea I agree

Look at backpacks and how much can carry

A horse should be able to carry a lot I think

[brisk iris]

Also very fair points!

[short cloak]

i don't want them to be too good and replace cars, but cars will have much better range, and even at 40 the storage is only really comparable at the very lowest end of cars

[restive steppe]

Could also add something like pack saddles eventually, larger carrying space but affecting speed and stamina and jumping ability

[mighty flower]

Carry 40 in total (the 2 bags)

They're 2 hiking backpacks, they don't seem bad, considering that they're a good lower-performance alternative (they don't use fuel and don't have ‘parts’)

[brisk iris]

Gotta be careful not to get swarmed by zombs

[copper torrent]

That's awesome

[ebon flame]

They don’t like horse meat? 😂

If the option for the zombies to be attracted to animals is enabled, will they attack the horse?

[dawn geyser]

The devs said that the animals will never be attacked by zombies, so i think he have to script from zero. Actually i find that quite dumb, why zombies should not eat animals?

It will be super if someone will make a mod for the zombies to attack animals

[short cloak]

it doesn't really make a difference either way, animals are faster than zombies

so they don't really tend to catch up to them

[ebon flame]

Unless you have a horde of sprinters G_G

[dawn geyser]

But it's gonna be funny look at zombies behind chickens inside the closed fields

[dawn geyser]

I think this can help also as meta fot moving zeds

And give also some context now is very easy for survive

U just kill a random cow

Too easy still animals don't die of starvation or anything even in winter

[foggy jewel]

I could see this being maybe feasible with a few work-arounds

[ebon flame]

Don't they? Because if you create a world with 12+ months, you would find mainly all animals dead, not sure if that is a bug though

[dawn geyser]

Till now i survived 2 years and still animals don't die

[ebon flame]

You need to focus in something else 😂 stop tinkering! 😂

[foggy jewel]

[dawn geyser]

I will pay for it!

[ebon flame]

@brisk iris does the horse get stressed while the zombies are around?

[foggy jewel]

in theory, since the animals can’t be targeted themselves — maybe something could be done like assigning an invisible “Player”/“Bandit” character to follow the animal then using moddata to tie the health together between the two

just brainstorming lol

[dawn geyser]

🥹

[brisk iris]

I could technically make the zombies hurt the horse with some custom code, it's not super crazy to do, but just not the priority right now

[brisk iris]

Yes they will get stressed by being near zombies, but they will run from zombies when you are not mounted

[mighty flower]

I don't know, I like that they don't attack them and just stress them out, but I would like something that puts your animals in real danger, because as others have said, there are no real dangers for the animals, something like the meta event with the chickens. So a meta event that affects the animals and makes you really worry about their safety would be good.

[dawn geyser]

Tis said they gonna add pradator animals

[ebon flame]

@foggy jewel is adding a good predator

[dawn geyser]

i saw...ut there are no wolf in ky....

but many compliments for the project!!!!!

[ebon flame]

suspension of disbelief mode: active

[foggy jewel]

yeah, the closest thing the irl Kentucky has are Coyotes lol

there’s also bobcats and bears

[mighty flower]

They are still a good option!

[slender plank]

I suppose playing with bandits means the horse could get shot if you come upon some enemies and they start shooting in your direction

[copper torrent]

Kentucky has bears

[mighty flower]

Actually, I think that could happen already. Do the bandits in build 42 use the new or the old shooting system?

[ebon flame]

I'm pretty sure that people can see what @foggy jewel will do and use as a template for different animals. As well as the horse mod

[agile shoal]

We arent working with the Bandit mod. It might work but right now we're just working on implementing the animal in a more single player sense

[silver holly]

Especially since we don't know when or if b42 multiplayer will be coming out

[silver holly]

Is anybody good with making sprites? 🙂

[mighty flower]

Let's hope it will be compatible someday. Bandits shooting at horses may already be possible, given how the game works, but what I see as potential in that combination is how a bandit comes and steals your horse

[mighty flower]

I saw on reddit that someone created a counter showing how long 42 has been without MP

[agile shoal]

So?

[mighty flower]

We have gone 274 days, 1 hour, 57 minutes and 10 seconds

without MP.

[agile shoal]

Youll live, its not terminal

[mighty flower]

😂

[slender plank]

Yeah I didn't think you'd need to test compatibility, more I was assuming if someone (MP or bandits) is shooting at you it would pose a threat to the horse

I've accidentally shot the wrong animal due to janky aiming in B42

[narrow lynx]

I can manage, but I’m slow and not exactly great. I try to make it as close to vanilla as possible. What does it take?

[silver holly]

Just dedication and effort 🙂 we just need a few sprites for the horse, horse head and horse meat I believe
@agile shoal @brisk iris

[brisk iris]

The horse can be shot and killed by the player, so if the bandits use the same type of damage system (which I think they do), they should be hurt by them

[brisk iris]

For all sprites it would be:
Horse
Horse Skeleton
Horse head
Horse skull
Horse meat
Saddle
Saddlebags (though we don't have finished textures for it yet)

[narrow lynx]

Okay, I’m going to download the vanilla animal icons from the pack to have a reference and see if I can do it. It won’t be easy (for me).

[silver holly]

They don't need to be perfect but I'd love to see what you come up with 🙂

[narrow lynx]

Horse_Dead and Horse_Foal_Dead?

[silver holly]

would probably be good!!

[silver holly]

I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WON'T BE EASY FOR YOU???

you've made this look easy as fuck!!!!!

amazing work 🙂

[narrow lynx]

Thanks! The eye looks a bit small, maybe, I’m not sure. Tomorrow I’ll see if I can tweak something and try to make the horse and the head.

[silver holly]

if you're being REALLY picky, then sure it's a little small but really great job 🙂

@agile shoal

[agile shoal]

Whaaat the hell this looks amazing haha

[narrow lynx]

Now xDD

[junior nebula]

I think as soon as this mod be released community will need a carts and carriages sub-mod😆

[muted ridge]

And that'll be doable, but yea I think for now we'll probably just focus on the horses themselves

[ebon flame]

What are those for @agile shoal?

[muted ridge]

meme

[astral rover]

Great banners lol

[brisk iris]

Lonely roads

[mighty flower]

It looks very cool!

[ebon flame]

This feels like a banner image for the workshop page, so mod is almost out, let's pray 🙏🏿

[muted ridge]

Slowly getting there I'd say, but I do think it will take some time still to implement everything, do some cleanup etc

[agile shoal]

We wanna make sure its polished to a reasonable extent on release

[ebon flame]

My life it’s that fun anymore without the daily posts in this thread, what happened to Alex? 🥲

[muted ridge]

Nothing, it's just that we moved into some private convo as we're closing in to release

[thin crescent]

same. the little updates in here have been a real joy

super excited for this one

[mighty flower]

That anticipation will bring you more joy later when it comes out.

[muted ridge]

Don't get THAT excited either, it's not going to release this early, but yea the mod is starting to becoming more and more playable rn and some stuff were moved to private for safety, and also a better organization to work on stuff

[brisk iris]

Yeah it's still being worked on daily 😄 But there's not many new things being worked on, it's mostly just structuring, testing and making sure it's working smoothly

We do have working manes now though 😉

[copper torrent]

looks great!

[mighty flower]

I agree, plagiarism can be a real headache, and besides, when it comes out and we see things that weren't shown directly here, it will add a special touch of discovery.

[thin crescent]

we styling now

[silver holly]

taking horse texture suggestions, supply reference photos!

[mighty flower]

I love white horses

[silver holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1419117263914668053/1420585964337627288/image.png?ex=68d69807&is=68d54687&hm=17a9ebfaae2775ae21d75553765599f02bb07372d9685976c0b98ca44f66b3d3&

we've got a flea bitten grey that isn't pictured - i'd be worried it'd look too similar

[mighty flower]

Nice

I have the impression that it will look whiter in Game

It's like a “less clean” version of the white horse,
although it doesn't really look bad, I like those shades of gray.

[silver holly]

in theory

[ebon flame]

That gray/black horse will be my taming target for sure!

[proper dust]

So... here's a question... are we going to get Zeehaw before GTA 6? 🤔

[muted ridge]

When is GTA 6 due to ? 😄

[proper dust]

May 26th lol

[muted ridge]

Then the horse mod should be released before it no problems

[narrow lynx]

All the icons are ready; there are more besides these.

[silver holly]

I still can't believe what an amazing job you did

[north ferry]

It's been a while since I've checked here and I just wanted to say again that y'all are making the coolest shit

[muted ridge]

Also I just realized there's 225 people which are subbed to this thread lmao that's MASSIVE

[north ferry]

I mean yeah this is the coolest shit ever

[muted ridge]

Gawd damn

[north ferry]

Definitely my most anticipated thing for PZ right now asides from B42 MP

[muted ridge]

We're getting there

[silver holly]

Just putting on the finishing touches 😄 Making sure everything not only works but works well and even adding extra fun stuff because it's fun!!!!

[dawn geyser]

A question!!!! But yhe hirse will have a stamina level? Abd if his stamina gonna finish the horse will throw your character?

[brisk iris]

There is a stamina system yes, the horse will start to run slower as the stamina drains, and once it reaches 0 the horse will not be able to run, just walk until it recovers (faster if you stand still). It won't throw the player off

[slender plank]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-horse-charge-gif-17468559

B42 MP going to be wild with this, the riders are ready haha

[brisk iris]

We've been very quiet here, but rest assured that we have not abandoned it or taken a break, we still actively work on it every day 😄

[mighty flower]

https://tenor.com/view/chef-sanji-gif-27447706

[hexed lodge]

Super neat. I’m sure it’s low priority, but does or will riding bareback accrue uncomfortableness? I’d imagine if there’s a riding skill implemented, riding in general and uncomfortableness would scale with that? It looks sick so far, awesome work guys

[brisk iris]

Yes we have that implemented! If you ride bareback your legs will become sore, inducing some minor pain

[hexed lodge]

That’s insane. Kudos to ya’ll, keep up the great work

[dawn geyser]

Did u guys also think about multiplayer? Like 2 people on a horse?

[eternal briar]

cant test MP without Mp....

[dawn geyser]

Ah ok!

[mighty flower]

Yes, they probably have thought about it, but first things first, there must be MP

[dawn geyser]

2 people on horse is fire

[brisk iris]

We have some plans on how to make it work using the grappling system, but we haven't really tested it yet.
After release I'll do some experimentation using local coop

[fathom rose]

oh my god i hadnt checked the progress in such a long time!!!

🥺 sorry i disappeared but life had a couple challenges. Hope its over

i dont wanna let myself stray away any further from what i love doing

[muted ridge]

Welcome back 😄

[brisk iris]

Gotta be careful not to get your horse killed while you're still on it or you might break something when you fall

[agile shoal]

Bad horsey

[muted ridge]

[mighty flower]

[prime sand]

https://tenor.com/view/trish-2legged-horse-gif-12367598

[silver holly]

Cute!!!!

[muted ridge]

Update from the Horse Team regarding MP release

The Horse mod development is still going strong but the MP release will require us to make changes (possibly big ones) to our code to handle the networking of horse riding, attachment containers etc. As such we had discussed even before MP release, and we discussed again on the subject that the first release of the Horse mod will not be MP compatible.

Work will be put in making the mod MP compatible after the first version release of the mod.

[rotund flicker]

COWBOY DREMAS!

[granite coral]

i was told by someone this was abandoned is this true?

[brisk iris]

No no, definitely not true! We're still working on it

[granite coral]

i dont know what they meant

but that seems, misleading

maybe they were mis informed too but thats okay, as long as its still going strong!

❤️

[brisk iris]

Oh I think they meant to write "quite" not "quit", like as in "it's quite far along"

[granite coral]

OHH

that would make sense, in that case im sorry for mis understanding it Lol

[brisk iris]

It's all good 😄

[granite coral]

love the work you do Alex!

appreciate you

[brisk iris]

Thank you! I'm very glad to be on the team with the other amazing modders working on this ❤️

[fathom rose]

hii! i wanted to check in

been using all of my free time to work on the power plants

[craggy cradle]

Hawt Damn!

I had just posted in general wanting to make this same mod and was seeking advice. I've dreamed of having a mod like this for SO LONG. You are doing awesome work! Thanks!

I'm a senior animator and 3D modeler. Should you ever need or want my services, feel free to DM me. I'd be happy to contribute.

Otherwise, keep kicking ass and I look forward to testing the mod upon release!

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-hat-wink-gif-9968096888195202715

[short cloak]

thanks for the offer! the mod is quite far along currently, we're basically just finishing up, so i don't know if it makes sense to expand the team right now -- for example, as far as i know (not being my department), we have already completed all planned models and animations, so we wouldn't really have anything for you to do 😅

[craggy cradle]

No worries! I figured I'd throw it out there anyway but thank you for your kind reply. I'm so happy for you guys!

[sturdy rose]

It's a stupid question, will the horses eat the bushes and drink the puddles themselves, or will they need to be fed and watered manually?

[brisk iris]

They will eat and drink by themselves 😄

[muted ridge]

We'll have some more to work on in the future, notably attachment we need to utilize that system more 👀

[urban harbor]

"Oh hey what's going on in the horsey devstream-"

[short cloak]

every time sim sends a screenshot there's always like ten dead horses in the frame, it's not normal 😰

[urban harbor]

If it's any consolation, he did apologize to each horsey before burning them

[muted ridge]

C'mon it's not that bad 😭

[thin crescent]

no it tracks.

[urban harbor]

i cant look away

[thin crescent]

science requires sacrifice

[muted ridge]

[muted ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1415485072630353982/1462954697261322331/2026-01-20_00-39-08.mp4?ex=6970123c&is=696ec0bc&hm=93e3799d3ce7ff617c4a29c70667b98a8683ffbd23b1b26f8096133f77183eee&

Ok maybe they were right

[coarse tinsel]

Fast way to cook horse steaks?

[muted ridge]

We need your help

Hey everyone, we're nearing the release of the horse mod but we need some help from you guys. We are working on where the horses can spawn on the map and while we've already made a list of some places, we'd be interested on lists of coordinates on the PZ map of where horses should be able to spawn.

What we need is that you guys link us coordinates of the PZ map by using this: https://b42map.com
Whenever it's places you guys know of and should spawn horses, or if you scroll on the map and find something, we're taking ideas !

[mighty flower]

How should I send them if I have some suggestions?

I made a small text file with some locations.

[mighty flower]

I focused mainly on locations that have barns and stables that may be more suitable for horses. Although they are probably not very popular locations, and perhaps other places that I did not want to choose because they did not seem suitable for horses may actually be acceptable locations.

[short cloak]

thanks, that's exactly what we're looking for

[muted ridge]

Thank you !

[slender plank]

Few farms I'd expect them to appear at

[brisk iris]

Sick, cheers!

[muted ridge]

Guess what this is 👀

[dreamy prawn]

project zomboid ## ### ##### reveal trailer... i choose to believe it says HORSEY TIME in the middle

[muted ridge]

I should make it "HORSEY TIME"

[dreamy prawn]

also hoping the yellow in the background is a huge ZEEEEEHAWW!

[muted ridge]

It's not

[mighty flower]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-family-guy-horse-cavallo-gif-8842936

[urban harbor]

a mountain of horse hooves smh he can't keep getting away with it

[muted ridge]

[dawn geyser]

ah, what about horse shoes, there are them?

[brisk iris]

Not for release, but we have plans to add a system for them and implement them after release

[dawn geyser]

guys u are amazing,,,,,,i'm speechless

[restive steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-mask-clap-gif-10244637

[urban harbor]

From what I've seen, it's a stellar collab between some of the most skilled modders here. The community is gonna shit themselves.

Right into the saddle

[dawn geyser]

It's also the attention to the details and the love in doing this, i mean all this job is a shitload of time and work and it's for free, that's why I'm speechless. Ibhope that TIs gonna notice all of u guys at least with a mention in the game, maybe a big stable or something in the game, or even hiring u.

[drowsy crest]

🤠

[kindred saffron]

Tbh I’m always most impressed by modders and their patience with gamers more than anything. People in the horsey threads are typically just hyped and excited, but there’s a fair share of “you should be doing this” and way more “wen horse” comments

[muted ridge]

Paddlefruit is hard at work getting sounds. Can you guess for what ? 👀

[urban harbor]

Bout to sit on that thang yeeeehaaawwww

[muted ridge]

Did you knew it's the year of the horse ?

[fathom rose]

you making the horse skinning timed action?

🤣

[vocal hatch]

I hope it includes donkeys

[brisk iris]

It does not 😅 But we are gonna release documentation and examples on how to make custom animals, so other modders can feel free to use what we've learned and make a donkey quite easily

[vocal hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/liorenski-shrek-shrek-the-third-donkey-shrek-cute-eyes-gif-4875276078911517632

[muted ridge]

The Horse Mod is coming ... watch the trailer for it in 11 hours !
https://youtu.be/vuWLWnM3k_0

[halcyon monolith]

a whole trailer is insane

[muted ridge]

Get ready for the Horse Mod trailer in 20 minutes!
https://youtu.be/vuWLWnM3k_0?si=4rOG6cTJK1kKq8cU

[urban harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-slide-awesome-action-gif-7833287

https://tenor.com/view/conan-the-destroyer-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-3479931

Actual footage of SimKDT "testing" horse animations.

[dawn geyser]

WOW!!!!!!

[brisk iris]

We're very excited to finally get this out to you all 😄 It's been a hell of a ride, big thanks to everyone who's been in this channel and helped us with suggestions, feedback, brainstorming, etc.

Just a week to go! YEEEHAAWW!

[muted ridge]

[craggy cradle]

Congrats!!!

Can't wait to download it!

[restive dome]

Zeehaw~

[flat frigate]

quick question:
Will there be a way for other modders to add custom saddles?

[narrow lynx]

yes

[prisma eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-horse-gif-10664029143539029928

[agile shoal]

The OG

We worshipped this gif during development, it gave us the strength we needed

[brisk iris]

Yes SimKDT made an API for modders to be able to add any kind of attachment easily

[north ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-squid-game-2-cheers-happy-excited-gif-13406404385856133045

so happy to see this project get finished, been great watching its development these past months

[worthy kayak]

to all that worked on the horse mod

[urban harbor]

My first modding project ever was horse armor for the original Mount & Blade. Hmm... 🤔

[topaz meadow]

This is honestly the crown jewel of what I hope the PZMC continues to become. Incredible work guys.

[muted ridge]

Come ask questions regarding the horse mod here
https://www.twitch.tv/simkdt

[limber plinth]

😮

[short cloak]

decided to pop in for a second, fire everywhere, dead horses, don't know what i expected honestly

[muted ridge]

😭

A horse walked on my campfire and he set everything in fire, including other horses 😭

[steady mountain]

Hi, this mod is amazing! I'm a content creator for PZ in Brazil and I'd love to be able to translate it into Portuguese.
How can I help?

[muted ridge]

We can pass a copy of the files to translate

[steady mountain]

Yes, do I need to add you on Discord?

[muted ridge]

No need, I'll DM you the files

[steady mountain]

ok

[north ferry]

I don't have an account but I am watching, I did wanna ask if there's any plans for future content additions or if the mod is finished beyond future bug fixes/optimization?

[muted ridge]

The mod is definitely not finished no

We've got a lot more planned

[north ferry]

hope you add different breeds in the future

draft horses would rock

[muted ridge]

Once more today, feel free to pass by if you have questions regarding the upcoming Horse Mod!
https://www.twitch.tv/simkdt

[prime garden]

Will it require a new save?

[muted ridge]

It shouldn't in theory

[prime garden]

also looks fucking awesome

Do you have a Ko-Fi?

the team that made this

[muted ridge]

We don't no, we had made the decision to not do that, probably something we'll discuss again tho to maybe buy assets such as sounds or something like that

[north ferry]

what locations will the horses spawn at?

Im guessing they will also appear in animal trailers?

[muted ridge]

Actually we didn't make them spawn in animal trailers, so yea good you asked

But they will spawn in stables, some barns, in some fields etc

Similarly to other animals like cows

[north ferry]

ahhh

Ill start a new save and avoid those locations for now lol

[dawn geyser]

maybe, when u gonna make the system for carriages or trailers, u can make a plow, so we can make more terrain for farming simultaneosly

[slender plank]

Would be cool to have them drag logs too. Like rope up a few bundles and walk the horse to your base

[mighty flower]

They will probably do it at some point, they will do a “Carry update.”

[muted ridge]

Are you guys ready ? 👀

[thin crescent]

Just hit the submit button already!

[urban harbor]

Yeah I kinda decided on Horsey release being when I clean up my local mods and get a new load order going/maybe actually play some PZ lol

[short cloak]

the streamers are fucking this mod up 😭 we need all the time we can get

[thin crescent]

I was watching ret play with it. Now that is a dude who will hunt for the bugs

[short cloak]

oh shit, i didn't know ret played it, i haven't been too tuned in 😅 he's the only pz youtuber i actually watch, that's awesome

[thin crescent]

Yep it was fun to watch. He spotted a few quirky things

One to do with when you fall off a horse

[urban harbor]

@muted ridge right now

[muted ridge]

Yea 😭

[dawn geyser]

all the people around me were in hype for the possible shadowdrop of F3 remastered, from the 2 season finale, while me dying inside waiting to play the horse mod.....

[hexed lodge]

dude i fell for it all and last night i came on here and saw the release trailer and this is all i look forward to now

[fathom rose]

its so cool seeing what yall did with the mod

very proud to have contributed in a tiny way

[brisk iris]

It was before my time, but from what I saw going back in the chat, you definitely helped a lot with getting the model and rig up and running! Thank you ❤️

[topaz meadow]

Everyone set a lot of groundwork, it was a truly, genuine, community collaborative project.

[muted ridge]

What items would you guys want to see possible to attach on the horse ?

[urban harbor]

Ambitious: 2-handed slot of some sort, like a rifle scabbard.

[muted ridge]

That's something we'd like to do, but we're going to hit some important limitations because items when attached to an horse will lose all stats

[rich mulch]

-SideBag (One for each side)
And then maybe make the bags with lil custom skins to differentiate then? Like... Medical Bag, Food Bag, Ammunitions Bag
-Bedroll
-Hats please like helmets and cowboy hats and strawhats etcs look at this refined gentlehorse and tell me you don't like hats on horses

[dawn geyser]

Weapons holsters or bow holster, small backpack like the school one or the new leather one, a big bag for the horse to use as one horse as a mule, hats, bedroll and tent

[mighty flower]

Sleeping bag, canteens or something similar, tools, cosmetics/armor for the horse, lantern or flashlight for lighting, extra but small cargo bags, and maybe just one slot for a weapon.

[urban harbor]

Makes me wonder if you could fake it by attaching it to the player but hiding the slot/visual and negating the weight somehow.

That's how a lot of FPS games handle their weapon library. It's attached to the player, entered into the array, and then disabled.

[muted ridge]

We do have some ideas on how to handle that yea, but your idea is basically something like that

[urban harbor]

Horse mod is more than horses

[muted ridge]

What we want to do however is to store the original weapon in a container which follows the player

[urban harbor]

I'd really have to poke around the mod before I continued with any ideas. I saw glimpses of how you were handling inventory, very competent problem-solving. Eager to play the mod and get a closer look at all the ingenuity!

[muted ridge]

and all the crappy systems that we really need to improve but aren't priority rn lmao

But yea overall I'm really happy with the attachment system, so I want to push its use a bit further

The main limitation rn is that you can't have attachments dependent on others, but I could easily program that in

And I think we won't have much choice but do that, unless we accept items are attached to the horse flesh lmao

Like lanterns that's something we want to do, but yea we need to expand a tiny bit the attachment system and decide whenever we accept that or not. I think we just need some early game solutions to attach items on the horse

saddle pads

[short cloak]

weapons will probably not be attachments themselves, just the holster

[muted ridge]

I mean we'll need to visually attach the weapon on the horse too

So they will be attachments too

[agile shoal]

I personally want to attatch all my pots and pans to the horse for some portable cooking

[short cloak]

we are not going through the fucking gear menu to put a gun on the horse 😭

we'll do it with attachment visuals, holsters will be attachments with custom logic like containers are

[muted ridge]

Oh I never said we can't have a quick way of doing it sure

[agile shoal]

Man, I really fucking wish we could have an animated mesh on top of the horse

That would make things so much easier

[muted ridge]

Definitely 🥲

[short cloak]

one of the things i'd like to work on post-launch (when i'm out of the multiplayer mines at least) is expanding the attachment API to be a lot more flexible for modders

[hexed lodge]

lazers and a grenade machine gun attached to the top of the head

[uneven hull]

Another horse

[thick zenith]

has it been releasd?

[muted ridge]

Tomorrow

[thick zenith]

Cant wait!! Thanks @muted ridge

[errant pasture]

Can we expect it to work on mp ?

(i mean has it been designed for it yet or not ?)

[brisk iris]

It has been designed for MP yes, the only thing is we need some more time to make riding work nicely, so that won't work directly at launch (but it's a top priority).
You can do everything else though, so servers can start stocking up on horses in preparation for riding being implemented

[errant pasture]

You are amazing! 😄

[brisk iris]

We are very lucky to have albion on the team! She knows so much about how MP works in PZ and is an amazing coder

[dawn geyser]

that's mean in mp there are horses but still not rideable?

[brisk iris]

Exactly yeah, you can pull them with rope or put them in an animal trailer to transport them to your base, where you have to feed and care for it. You can put saddle and saddle bags on it, but you can't ride yet

[dawn geyser]

ok thanks i have a friend that was asking about something similar i can tell him that, he is not good in english thats why he didn't ask

ah sorry @brisk iris i forgot, what about the spawn? will it be necessary to wipe the server?

[brisk iris]

Yes unfortunately you will need a new world for the horses to spawn (unless you do it with debug as admin). This is because we use the vanilla spawn system, just with our own added spawn zones, and the animals only get generated when you first start a new world

[agile shoal]

If you really want to use it on an old world you can spawn them in with debug mode, though

[slender plank]

dragging a simple sled for loot hauling or log transport

[proper dust]

Was about to start a new save but I just realized the mod comes out tomorrow lol

[brisk iris]

The mod will be releasing at 9am UTC! 8 more hours!

[short cloak]

Mod released: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3661336777

[mighty flower]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-peter-horse-family-guy-lois-griffin-gif-27498457

[dawn geyser]

Thanks to all the mod's developers.......u are amazing!!!!

[mighty flower]

I want to congratulate you and wish you all the best. You are great modders, and I am glad you have made it this far. I am proud of you in a way because I have been watching you since April last year, and what you have achieved and created is incredible. Thank you for creating the mod I have always wanted. There is still work to be done, but I am sure you will succeed. Yeehaw!

[eternal briar]

made an addon

[woeful shadow]

Amazing job guys

very impressive indeed

[brisk iris]

I want to thank everyone who's been in this channel and helped us with assets, feedback, brainstorming, and encouragement ❤️
It's been a hell of a journey folks, but this is not the end, we have a lot of plans for the future of the mod!

[muted ridge]

We had given early access to Retanaru and I think he did a great video which sums up the mod
https://youtu.be/nPwr3REqr5g

[slender plank]

Any tips for getting the horse out of Meat ball mode? I've tried: New game, select the mod, load in, quit to desktop, spawn horse (Meatball), quit to desktop, continue (Meatball)

[short cloak]

go to the game's main menu, enable the mod, restart the game, then load your save

unfortunately the mod needs to be enabled when the game starts up to work properly

[muted ridge]

We hope TIS will fix it 😅

[urban harbor]

daaaamn that skin looks good in engine woo those colors

[dawn geyser]

i found a bug, or i think is a bug, when using the mod nexus archer, if u have an arrow in the bow the animation conflict with the horse ride animation cause the arvcher mod have another animation

[muted ridge]

Wait what do you mean ?

Oh

You're trying to use the bow while riding the horse ?

You can't do that tho

How tf are you using the ride animation with a bow in hands ? You can't equip items while on the horse

[dawn geyser]

no it's just the bow have an interaction to load an arrow in the bow, when this is done even ,with the bow in the back not in the primary, the mod archer have it's own animation when the arrow is loaded, this animation conflict with the rideing animation, i' try to make a video

[dawn geyser]

ok i resolved was the bow equipped and given problem to the animation

my bad sorry

[muted ridge]

But how did you even equip it ?

You can't equip items while riding

[north dune]

Got spawns working consistantly. smaller zones did the trick!

[muted ridge]

Yea was the issue I had, I'll add some extra info about that in the doc

[north dune]

However the horses spawn in a horny way

[muted ridge]

Uh

How small did you make it lol ?

[north dune]

Not very small

 { name = "horselarge", type = "Ranch", x = 2550, y = 4339, z = 0, width = 44, height = 53 },
  { name = "horsemedium", type = "Ranch", x = 2597, y = 4326, z = 0, width = 60, height = 26 },
  { name = "horselarge", type = "Ranch", x = 2597, y = 4354, z = 0, width = 60, height = 22 },
  { name = "horsesmall", type = "Ranch", x = 2597, y = 4378, z = 0, width = 60, height = 17 },
  { name = "horsemedium", type = "Ranch", x = 2597, y = 4397, z = 0, width = 60, height = 18 },

[muted ridge]

Hmm

Also you want horses to spawn outside that fence ?

[north dune]

I just kept it contained to the race track for now, but the fence should keep them contained and prevent wandering

[dawn geyser]

trying to drink from leather water bag while riding and don't make me do it

[north dune]

But I might just add a meadow with wild horses in a wilderness as well

[dawn geyser]

also from normal bottles

eating and smoking work good

also the action of change the shemagh from cover the face to scarf don't work

[muted ridge]

The what ?

Ok found the item

Fixed it

[north dune]

What's the roomdef for saddles? Or do you have to craft it?

[muted ridge]

They do spawn yes

[north dune]

I made a horse track spawn. Is there a custom roomdef for it?

Or is it just scattered around the world?

changeroomjockey seems to be the one to use

[muted ridge]

JockeyLockers

@brisk iris is the one who made the distribution, so he should know better

[rich mulch]

do horses have laying down animations to rest/sleep?

[muted ridge]

Yes !

[dawn geyser]

i'm living a dream thank u guys!! a lot!!!!

[north dune]

JockeyLockers is the procedural. Roomdefs use procedural lists to fill containers

Just did a test and the saddles didn't spawn in the jockey lockers. I feel they should

This is what the jockey lockers have inside them

[muted ridge]

Did you check with LootZed tho ?

[north dune]

I checked the lua

[muted ridge]

Not sure what you mean by that

Our Lua ?

[north dune]

You inject into the jockeylocker which is good, but the jockeylocker is only a component of the jockeychangeroom roomdef

[short cloak]

we added the spawns quite late so they may be a little rough

[north dune]

addItems(HorseItemsDistribution.JockeyLockers.items, saddleItems, 0.8)
addItems(HorseItemsDistribution.JockeyLockers.items, saddlebagItems, 0.8)
addItems(HorseItemsDistribution.JockeyLockers.items, reinsItems, 0.8)

Since this is jockey specific, you should crank this rather than be conservative

as it's the only pure horse loot def in vanilla

[muted ridge]

I mean, are horse equipments meant to be stored in lockers for the riders ?

[north dune]

alternatively you could add a new def for the:

changeroomjockey = {
        locker = {
            procedural = true,
            procList = {
                {name="JockeyLockers", min=0, max=99},
            }
        },
        counter = {
            procedural = true,
            procList = {
                {name="ChangeroomCounters", min=0, max=99},
            }
        }
    },

Right now the changeroomjockey roomdef only has a def for locker and counter

if you added a crate def to that roomdef, boxes would spawn saddles

[muted ridge]

Been a while that I have touched procedural distribution

But I see what you mean

[north dune]

That's the perfect roomdef to consolidate all horse gear into, so mappers know the roomdef that guarantees saddles, reins, etc

I added a [Jockey] spawn to my map if anyone wants to jump right in and play around with horses without having to get to them
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3137112935

[muted ridge]

Jockey profession when ?

That's possibly something we could do I guess

[north dune]

If you want to see how the changeroomjockey feels in game, if you run my map, and spawn as [Jockey]. Beneath the spectator stands is the jockey changerooms with the lockers

So you can get a sense of how the item distribution feels in-game for horse items

[dawn geyser]

i have also noticed that when i use the rope to tie the horse on the tree the rope reamin in my hands is this normal?

[short cloak]

i was thinking of making a discussion to direct people to addons and maps with horse zones, would you like this to be added to that? i see your mod is a test so i'm not sure what level of publicity you're looking for 😅

[north dune]

It's a test for now, but I'm pretty close to pushing it to the main mod page. But yeah, feel free to direct people to it

I just kept it unlisted so I could make changes whenever without people being allowed to complain lol

[silver holly]

To be clear this is not an official add on in case anyone might be wondering! ☺️ good job though!!

[narrow lynx]

Has your beloved horse died? Are you sad because it won’t be there to keep you company anymore? Well, don’t be — if you make a rug out of its hide, you can keep it with you forever!

[mighty flower]

https://tenor.com/view/buy-xanax-medengagedcom-gif-20580133

[brisk iris]

Life ain't all that bad when you got a friend to share a tune with

[dawn geyser]

Is the lifestyle mod for the guitar?

[brisk iris]

Yeah 😄

[slender plank]

Out of curiosity are you making a livestock zone every time you camp to stop the horse wandering?

Could be a cool mod that auto places a 4*4 animal zone when you place a tent, probably more handy when companion animals become more popular

[brisk iris]

I usually just tie it to a tree 😄 But that's not a bad idea for a mod tbh

[slender plank]

The Lone Ranger Tent haha

[north dune]

Been really enjoying the horse mod! One note, I'm always wanting to find a saddle and saddlebags but the current values are so low they rarely spawn, even in dedicated roomdefs for horse stuff.

addItems(HorseItemsDistribution.JockeyLockers.items, saddleItems, 0.8)
addItems(HorseItemsDistribution.JockeyLockers.items, saddlebagItems, 0.8)
addItems(HorseItemsDistribution.JockeyLockers.items, reinsItems, 0.8)

For reference these are the weights for items in the JockeyLockers

JockeyLockers = {
        rolls = 4,
        items = {
      ~
            "Hat_JockeyHelmet01", 2,
            "Hat_JockeyHelmet02", 2,
            "Hat_JockeyHelmet03", 2,
            "Hat_JockeyHelmet04", 2,
            "Hat_JockeyHelmet05", 2,
            "Hat_JockeyHelmet06", 2,
            "Hat_PeakedCapYacht", 0.1,
            "Shirt_Jockey01", 4,
            "Shirt_Jockey02", 4,
            "Shirt_Jockey03", 4,
            "Shirt_Jockey05", 4,
            "Shirt_Jockey06", 4,
            "Shoes_RidingBoots", 10,
        ~

I feel they should at least match the weights of the jockey clothing and helmet

[muted ridge]

Smthg to look into then

[brisk iris]

When I was testing it seemed like a good balance, when I cranked it up to like 1.5-2 there would just be an insane amount of gear in the lockers. But I will do another pass and make some tweaks, thank you for reporting

[errant pasture]

Are you going to make horses able to jump small fences ? Do different horses have different stats ?

[brisk iris]

They already can jump fences 🙂 Just gallop and then press space
There is a bit of variation in their stats yes, but not much right now, some are a bit faster than others.
We have plans to expand on the genetics system quite a bit

[errant pasture]

That's perfect! I didn't try it yet, will definitely do it this week 😄

[muted ridge]

We don't have variation for stats rn

Unless he didn't mean different breeds

[brisk iris]

Oh right yeah, when we disabled the translation data it made the gene speed not affect the movement speed anymore

[errant pasture]

Ok, i hope it will come back, i want to fulfill my breeding autistic trait coming from ARK 😂

[short cloak]

from what doggy said for whatever reason it didn't work anyway

[muted ridge]

It didn't seem to work yea

The gene gets saved but it doesn't impact the speed, that's something we need to fix

[hexed lodge]

petah......

[muted ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-menacingly-spongebob-standing-there-gif-19452999

[agile shoal]

I'm a big fan of the eldritch horror moments this mod brings sometimes

[muted ridge]

At least share them what you mean by that

[astral rover]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-dog-zomboid-suspicious-gif-10712400350108666363

[restive steppe]

Cant wait to preform some heavy calvary charges

[urban harbor]

Skeleton horse is absolute kino. Thank you ranch team

[mighty flower]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-phantom-youngblood-ghost-cowboy-horse-gif-6392333749081887241

[kindred saffron]

Im picturing the face of an npc seeing a guy charge down the street in full medieval knight armor

[muted ridge]

Thank you everyone for the support!

Thanks to everyone who's downloaded or checked the mod, the team members are taking a small break and we are really happy that no major problems were reported yet, besides small quirks we mostly already knew about.
We have a lot more planned for the future of the mod!

[agile shoal]

We're already on PAGE 2 of the most popular mods of all time, and its only been 4 DAYS! Thanks so much everyone!

[slender plank]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-elliot-ghost-rider-sam-elliot-ghost-rider-carter-slade-ghost-rider-carter-slade-gif-21610614

Flaming horse when? Haha

[dawn geyser]

Thanks about the fixing of the water and clothes, always the bests!

[keen plaza]

I am not sure if I can ask a question here but - do the horses have possibility to spawn in the livestock trailers during vehicle stories events? As I am playing 12 months later I'm wondering if I am even able to find a horsie this way since they are all dead otherwise xd

[short cloak]

not currently

[muted ridge]

I think animals that spawn in these spawn dead too anyway ?

[keen plaza]

I found a live chicken and a live sheep so far 😩

they were sickly but kickin

[keen plaza]

thank you

[muted ridge]

This was very early in the mod development, you can see how it improved since then lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwVFV_lyhqI

[agile shoal]

Crazy how far its come

[agile shoal]

The dog update

[tacit gorge]

mount it

ride the dog horse

[kindred saffron]

That’s not a dog, that’s lil sebastian from parks and rec

[brisk iris]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-sebastian-little-sebastian-parks-and-rec-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-puppy-gif-5568432

[mighty flower]

The ponies are coming?

[dawn geyser]

hey guys are u planning tpo add more objects where to rope the horses?

[muted ridge]

That's something we did back then, but it turns out that this corrupted the world 💀💀

Do uh, we deactivated it until we fix it

[dawn geyser]

i have notice that when u rope the horse to a tree or for walking the rope is not "consumed" in the action but remain in the inventory

[muted ridge]

Are you in god mode or debug mode with some cheats on ?

[dawn geyser]

no

but i started the run using the debug mode, but i disabled all the cheats

[muted ridge]

The rope stays in the player inventory, that's how roping works

The player equips it in its hands

[dawn geyser]

yes but shouldn't suppose to be in the inventory when u rope the horse to a tree right?

[urban harbor]

Was curious. I'd be interested in taking a spin on the Horse Rig. It looks quite refined, and I bet I could make a couple useable assets. OFC totally understand if that's somethin y'all would prefer to keep within the team environment. No intent over here on forking it, just practice and potentially contributing. 👍

[short cloak]

the rig should be in our github repo somewhere, go nuts

[urban harbor]

Might start with that MGSV rider lean for funsies.

[short cloak]

i'm not sure what you're planning on making but you're free to make basically anything as an addon, and we will probably accept any offered contributions if they fit within our design -- the license is also on github, it's fairly permissive

[urban harbor]

Tbh, just using a reliable method of coming out of a creative slump; interesting tasks. Not motivated enough to complete a project.

Maybe y'all could use some mundane idles? Rider looking about and stroking the mane. Also variants on rote stuff like mount/dismount.

I'm trying to practice the subtle details of human movement, weight distribution and general proprioception.

Ah seeing you have an animation spreadsheet, nice 👍

[agile shoal]

Its in Blend Files/Rigs/Clean!

You can see the animation file in Blend Files/Animations

[muted ridge]

idk, we don't have anything special, we use the base game system

If that's how it acts in the horse mod, that's how the base game handles it

Horses ARE LITERALLY ANIMALS

We don't have anything special about them to be able to do the generic animals actions

They run to you when you call them like other animals if you have high enough relation

They can be roped around

They can be fed, drink etc

And in the same way they have the same issues as vanilla animals:

• they'll walk over campfires
• they don't have a deep health system
• they can't die from fall damage

[muted ridge]

Like albion said, do whatever you want

We have a doc on some of the modding related stuff too

[prisma eagle]

Hi, i looked at the trailers and i was wondering how the hell did you do animations so smooth especially the mounting one did you make it yourself or did you use motion tracking ?

[brisk iris]

Thank you! I made it by hand using Paddles rig 😄 For some movements I can find good visual references like YouTube videos and stuff, for the ones where I can't I just try to visualize myself making the movement and go from there.

I'm planning on making some videos, and stream on twitch when I make animations to show my process and hopefully help others get into it

[agile shoal]

Alex did a phenomenal job with the anims

Its the first time anyones properly used a rig Ive made so it was awesome to see

[dawn geyser]

a question guys, u looked into the animals system, right? so do they feel cold? i mean they can stay under the snow without any problem?

[brisk iris]

No they don't get affected by temperature, but I think when it's snowing or raining they need roof or they get stressed

[radiant pivot]

I could be late but is there an ETA for MP on this?

[short cloak]

no etas, when it's done we will release it

[radiant pivot]

You are doing work!

[drowsy crest]

Where is the appropriate place to report bugs?

[rich wharf]

Same question

[brisk iris]

Making a github issue here is the best
https://github.com/PZ-HorseTeam/HorseMod/issues

[rich wharf]

ah, I see the bug I reported won't be fixed. rip

[rich wharf]

btw I'm having a lot of fun with this mod so kudos to everyone who helped create it ❤️

[brisk iris]

Which one is that?

[rich wharf]

The one where you can see the outline of a bigger mane (and other items although I havent tried saddles yet)

I saw it and I guessed that maybe it was something to do with the rig/model of the horse

but I see it's something else per the bug thread

[brisk iris]

Ah yeah, that's a tricky one for us, it's something TIS will have to fix. We've reported it to them so hopefully it'll get resolved at some point

[rich wharf]

hopefully!

[agile shoal]

I can take another look at it soon, but the rig shouldnt be the problem: I believe the issue is caused by the outline object not being scaled to the animals animalSize

[muted ridge]

Yea

[muted ridge]

Thank you everyone, after 1 month the mod is still growing really hard

[agile shoal]

Still insane

[agile shoal]

Now the current most popular mod of all time 🥳
We've been a little quiet as we've been resting and working on other stuff since the release, but rest assured the mod isnt going anywhere! Thank you all again!

[urban harbor]

I will say I'm not surprised 👍

[wise wolf]

So glad for you guys, you really deserve that and more

[agile shoal]

This is one of those moments where it's the first time I've ever worked on something thats been distributed to so many people (almost 100k!). It's hard to even conceptualize that many people haha

[fast echo]

There’s something funny about going from Grommet mug to fully functional horses in a game that doesn’t even natively support bicycles

[agile shoal]

I gotta fix up that mod

I was just the Blender guy, the others did the real crazy wizardry haha

[narrow lynx]

Well now I want to make a rig like the one you made for the horse and without this I wouldn't know how to do it.

[agile shoal]

If you need any help or advice just lmk!

[muted ridge]

Something might look different in the mod...

[thin crescent]

just saw it on reddit lmao

amazing

[wise wolf]

Top tier

[dawn geyser]

amazing new horses animations, my favourite? the jumps

[dawn geyser]

guys sorry for the horses did u set a minimal enclousure size? like 80 tiles for the cows

[muted ridge]

wdym ?

That's a thing ?

What does it even do ?

[dawn geyser]

so i was reading on the wiki that a smaller space give to the animals stress and prevent the right growing process

"Factors such as living in an undersized enclosure (smallEnclosure) can dramatically slow this process by reducing daily weight gain by a factor of 8, while poor health, hunger, or thirst can also impede growth. Once an animal transitions to its next life stage (e.g., from chick to hen), its weight range resets to the new stage's minimum and maximum values, and the growth process continues. The following table shows the base weight ranges, gene multipliers, and resulting actual weights for all animals and their life stages:"

consider that i discover yesterday that if u use the magazine armor under rain o r wash it lose condition

[muted ridge]

I had no idea that was a thing, but I'm not too surprised either considering the amount of details put in animals

Can you send the page ?

[dawn geyser]

me too i just discovered why my chicken don't lay eggs and don't grow up

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Animal

can i also ask how is going with the mp working? i don't ask for an eta only if is going good

[muted ridge]

Tbh we haven't really put any serious work in the mod since release, besides the GLB conversion done by Paddlefruit to halve the mod size, some tweaks here and there and some warning popups I worked on. We're all taking a big break overall, working on our own things for the most part
I personally plan on taking a sweep on a bunch of issues to fix here and there at some point but have been focusing on modding documentation for the past month or two

I think a lot of us are occupied with life these days too. Due to the charge of work of adding MP riding to the Horse mod, that's also something we're not too focused on, especially as the mod is in a really good state currently besides that aspect

[dawn geyser]

Totally understandable.....u made an enormous work with this mod, thanks for the answer💪

[agile shoal]

Lots of exams, lots of life happening. Itll get done eventually

[dawn geyser]

i understand very well, i'm moving back to ireland from belgium, i work in the kitchen and is easter and i can barely play anything i'm struggling even to play the last episode of TLD.

[weary valve]

Can we get a fix for the controller usage in this mod? It's throwing thousands of errors every second. Its because PZ changed the control scheme with gamepad

[agile shoal]

We'll take a look at it

[vocal hatch]

so there isnt any ETA on a MP release? Completely understandable. I was working on a mod and then decided I should focus on making it MP from the start and some things that are super easy to do in single player are a complete headache in MP and it killed my motivation.

[brisk iris]

No ETA unfortunately, it's tricky to make it work well and look nice, but we're making some progress

[dawn geyser]

i saw mod tryto bypass the mounting block to try to make the horses working on mp

[eternal briar]

i advised they not make such a thing. and it disappeared shortly after.

[brisk iris]

Yeah a simple mod like that was never gonna work well. It needs a lot of new custom logic for it to work and not look/feel awful in MP

[ember hamlet]

Did you thin k about a cart or a sledgr for the hoses to pull?

[brisk iris]

Yeah it's something we want to do, but it will be hard to do it. So not sure when that will be

[halcyon monolith]

is it more of a technical block (like lots of work and maybe refacotring some systems) or just work on the asset side
actually in hindsight i wouldnt be surprised if its both 😭

[brisk iris]

Haha yeah it's both

[halcyon monolith]

the fact that the mod has come this far is a miracle lol, i was just curious

[brisk iris]

Our best theory is basically to make a new vehicle that is modeled to look like a wagon/cart, have a seat in the front of it, and then more seats wherever else.
The front seat would be for the horse to "sit" in, which they can because they are a subclass of IsoPlayer, and we'd force some animations to play based on travel speed of the "wagon" (car) so it looks like the horse is pulling it, but in reality the player using WASD is what's driving the car. Then we just make it use no gas or whatever, and require the horse to be seated for it to work

Last I tested the horse was able to sit in a car and the travel was synced, but when turning they would collide and the horse dies lol

[ember hamlet]

❤️
I will wait ...
insert Pedrowaiting.gif here

[halcyon monolith]

that's some wildly creative modding right there

thinking outside the box always gets interesting lol

[brisk iris]

Haha yeah it will be funky as hell, but hopefully it will work. We just gotta recruit a vehicle modder when the time is right

[short cloak]

really funny that people seem to assume we just turned off mounting in mp because we hate them and not because it doesn't work

[eternal briar]

they dont understand, that pushing anything early, means 1000x the hate, either

[agile shoal]

They're gonna have to pay $5.99 for it first

How do we wanna split the revenue