#Deadlock

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peak silo
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Valve's 3rd person MOBA

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Deadlock

normal marsh
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We have this

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And no half-life 3 PensiveAnji

peak silo
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hell yeah

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never played half life

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if anyone wants ot play iam down for it most of the tiume

stuck turret
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thank god

peak silo
stuck turret
peak silo
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yeah

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with alt fire

stuck turret
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ohh AnjiNotes

peak silo
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classic

stuck turret
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Last night I played three games, and in all three I had a teammates who ended up 0/8 if they were lucky

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The worst, I think, ended up like 1/15

peak silo
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diabolical

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did he atleast assisted the team?

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cuz when i play ivy i usually go 0/5/15

peak silo
peak silo
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new christmas challange

peak silo
peak silo
peak silo
peak silo
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@stuck turret @normal marsh you have gotta see this

normal marsh
# peak silo

That was some fucking hive mind level of coordination :O

peak silo
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6 sevens

peak silo
peak silo
peak silo
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holy shit

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its massive

hollow briar
peak silo
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I FUCKING LOVE DEADLOCKS ARTSTYLE RAAARGH

peak silo
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all lash mains are like that?

peak silo
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40m turrets

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GYAAAT

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HOYL SHIT I FORGOT TO UPGRADE THEM

hollow briar
peak silo
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so silly

hollow briar
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im starting to really want to get back into this game

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or is it bait

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it would be cool if twas real

peak silo
wind cloud
hollow briar
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these are pretty good honestly

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it gives a pretty good vibe

peak silo
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iam a bit sad they didnt keep old patron voices

peak silo
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Rem got released first

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its so over gravers

hollow briar
peak silo
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i voted

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get bent furries

quartz flicker
rugged spadeBOT
quartz flicker
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@silk flint

silk flint
quartz flicker
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lmao

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i assumed it was, or that is was made recently

peak silo
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this is a real dialogue

hollow briar
hollow briar
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@grim roost

grim roost
hollow briar
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🚨NEW DEADLOCK UPDATE JAN 30TH🚨
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︀︀Hero bans, Unique Street Brawl balancing, Debuff Remover is now 'Dispel Magic', and more.
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︀︀- Added hero banning to Standard Mode and Street Brawl. You can now select one hero in your roster screen (using middle click) to tell the matchmaker that you prefer to avoid that hero. When the game starts, it will tell you which heroes were banned. We are doing just 2 total bans for now. This does not affect new heroes in the initial release window.
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︀︀- Parties of 3+ players now need to have an additional hero in their roster (from 3 to 4)
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︀︀- Fire Rate increases and reductions from most abilities and items are reduced globally by a small amount
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︀︀- Updated various on bullet hit resistance reduction debuffs to apply increased damage for subsequent hits rather than initial hit (similar to the spirit damage proc cases)
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︀︀- Added Dash Speed to the Vitality stat screen…

peak silo
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gun viscous and warden got nerfed

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good patch

hollow briar
peak silo
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actually fucking crazy

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he wasnt even fed

silk flint
silk flint
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Might be the greatest clip I've seen

hollow briar
peak silo
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fed bebop kills everyone in a small room

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das crazy

wind cloud
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True DOTA experience

peak silo
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more like Bronze

hollow briar
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million pfp's

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The new hero Silver's abilities:
︀︀Slam Fire: Reload your gun and gain bonus fire rate & weapon damage based on the target's health.
︀︀Boot Kick: Dash forward and kick the first enemy, dealing melee damage and marking them. Shooting the marked enemy deals bonus damage.
︀︀Entangling Bola: Throw a bola dealing spirit damage and disabling movement for caught heroes.
︀︀Lycan Curse: Dealing damage builds up bloodlust, instantly activating when max bloodlust is achieved. Cast to transform, gaining health, movespeed and fire rate. Your abilities are replaced with ferocious versions.
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︀︀Go For The Throat: Deal melee damage to all enemies in front of you, healing for a portion of the damage dealt.
︀︀Mauling Leap: Leap forward, mauling the first enemy hit for melee damage and applying spirit bleed.
︀︀Tail Whip: Slash enemies around you, dealing spirit damage and applying disarm and slow.

**💬 10 🔁 41 ❤️ 678 👁️ 47.8K **

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omg

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she deals so much damage

peak silo
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comically large ground strike

peak silo
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me when green bebop

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her torment pulse kept triggering my witch mail

hollow briar
peak silo
peak silo
peak silo
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this so tuff

grim roost
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new character pretty cool

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adding true damage is gonna open the gates to a lot of shit tho

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but rn theres def too much resistance stackers so maybe itll help short term. just worried about it being added to future characters kits

peak silo
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yeah

silk flint
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3 does 40 true damage

grim roost
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fair, the only thing i knew that did true dmg was geist ult

silk flint
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His charged melee being true damage on wall splat with his 2 is mental

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Also neat having an Irish character

peak silo
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got deleted from game

hollow briar
peak silo
grim roost
# peak silo

they currently have a bug where buying sharpshooter on him does 5x dmg with his ult

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meaning he will just 1 shot

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lmao

peak silo
hollow briar
peak silo
wind cloud
peak silo
hollow briar
wind cloud
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Do you have any guides to recommend to get started with?

hollow briar
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@grim roost

peak silo
wind cloud
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Game in general

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My background is playing MOBAs in the past, no aim skills

grim roost
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do u have a preferred playstyle?

wind cloud
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Not really. I guess I was a support main in most of MOBAs, so there's that.

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Even if I don't really like playing them and tanks by now, I think that's the best choice for start.

grim roost
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Rem is the easy support

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Graves is a non aim subDPS-esque chara

wind cloud
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Thanks

hollow briar
grim roost
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bro theres matchmaking for street brawl? ive only played street brawl on my smurf and it got placed in oracle

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RIP

charred vapor
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lmao

peak silo
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matchmaking ranks are a joke and should not be acknowledged

grim roost
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but this smurf was specifically to play with friends who are newer to the game and there is a difference between oracle and seeker lmao

hollow briar
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i forgot how i hate team games

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me and my friend were mid and were doing well but then the rem wanted to switch cause they were losing yellow

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but then we just ended up losing mid

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so i hate how you gotta trust that your team is good enough to go through with the plan they make

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we would've lost mid sooner or later but i was already way up souls and switching lanes didn't do anything so i don't get it

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I don't know

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like dude im not gonna be the play maker here

peak silo
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when i play i basiclly do my own thing and only pitch in if someone is in voice chat organizing

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but i always assume thta i dotn have my teammates support and operate with thta in mind

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but then again i dont play support

hollow briar
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nah i was playing infernus

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if it was ow or marvel rivals it would be easier to work together

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but idk for deadlock

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kind of feels like i gotta atleast care about the one person in my lane

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but its hard to work with them if they don't want to mic

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or type

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or ping

grim roost
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also if your team is doing bad, theres a shitton of comeback mechanics like the urn that can fix it, esp if you are fed on a hypercarry

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but the game is basically ur responsibility atp, so if you throw ur lead away or just dont perform well on the carry charas then you fuck ur chances since you will have majority of the souls

grim roost
hollow briar
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Idk I just don’t think haze or Mina are my kind of characters

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If there’s truly no other way to actually win then I’ll just thug it out on the characters I play

grim roost
# hollow briar Venator?

tbh i havent played with him in the main gamemode so idk. If I were to guess, he'd fall more into a 2nd carry chara as well since he lacks engage/disengage tools so he cant really make any huge risky plays

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but rn hes overtuned as hell so hes prob a good hypercarry until hes nerfed

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which im expecting to happen

grim roost
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I have 88% winrate on abrams on a smurf and 60%+ winrate on lash on my main and both of em arent hypercarries, but they initiate and make plays that can be very impactful to iwnning or losing

hollow briar
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Apolo lost

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grim roost
peak silo
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yeah she got same air control as holliday when she uses juml pad iirc

peak silo
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lmao

charred vapor
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lmao indeed

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holly shit celestes movement fills so good

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and this is post nerf too isnt it

peak silo
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what nerfs?

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there is nothing on changelog

charred vapor
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oh ok than iam dumb

peak silo
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she has the same air control as holiday on jumpad

charred vapor
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bhoping fills very jeneros on here

peak silo
charred vapor
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same

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i nead to do so more

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i can ait stafe but iam not that good at it

wind cloud
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Tfw your #1 sucks (it's over)

grim roost
# wind cloud so like Dota

havent played much dota but basically. Tho you arent guaranteed hypercarry charas in deadlock since theres no draft, so someone like a rem might have all the gold and will need to basically carry the team

charred vapor
peak silo
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how to extend game

play viktor
farm all game and dotn engage
enemies underestimate you
at 40k engage and kill half their team
enemies panic buy curse
both teams cant kill eachother now
60 min game

peak silo
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hate crimes

charred vapor
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Based

wind cloud
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damn

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deadlock is fun

peak silo
peak silo
normal marsh
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Guys

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I'm getting into deadlock :O

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Going apollo main

charred vapor
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gl

hollow briar
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@grim roost

grim roost
peak silo
hollow briar
# hollow briar https://vxtwitter.com/MlNESWEEPER/status/2022329831590166859?s=20

Bug has been fixed in the latest client update! Thanks Yoshi, sorry Celeste mains.

QRT: MlNESWEEPER
you guys thought her movement was broken now enjoy dealing with this

(Celeste: Shining Wonder now causes you glide down more slowly while channeling it if cast in the air)

▶ Play video
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shot dead immediately

wind cloud
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I know what the items resemble to me

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They feel very Dawngate

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Does anyone remember that one

grim roost
charred vapor
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Ye

peak silo
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MORE

hollow briar
peak silo
peak silo
peak silo
charred vapor
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me and my 50% win rate

peak silo
hollow briar
peak silo
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i did

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iam gonna play more

hollow briar
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@grim roost lets grind some 1 am deadlock

grim roost
hollow briar
grim roost
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gotta start chinese new year right

hollow briar
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i gotta finish crime and punishment then

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if i wanna start my year right

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tbh i kind of forgot about chinese new year

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cause all my coworkers and friends are just talking about ramadan

grim roost
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it calls to you...

hollow briar
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i used to get red envelopes from some close family friends

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and my grandpa loved putting chinese new year decorations on his christmas tree

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instead of ornaments

solemn crystal
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they really gave me anything but SP

silk flint
peak silo
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GOATED CHARACTER

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and no

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its not a gun build

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turret build

wind cloud
peak silo
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where is the tierlist

hollow briar
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time to play the game

peak silo
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i wonder how they will come to conclusion which play was the most impactful

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the program i mean

hollow briar
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i hope its like in other games where everyone has one but the best one is shown

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so we can get clips of people's best clips being just farming

peak silo
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🔥

solemn crystal
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i cant wait to see the pog be a 0-18 dyno ulting 5 and no one dying

peak silo
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chekc if you got teammates nearby

solemn crystal
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i dont play that dog ass character who do you think i am

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i miss an entire wraith drum, merc mag, then miss an entire drum an a half (i slide)

hollow briar
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@grim roost wanna coach my deadlock game

grim roost
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wnna join?

hollow briar
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sure

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no vc, im talking to my friends

grim roost
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how did u expect to coach

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but all g

hollow briar
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in game chat

grim roost
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sounds good

hollow briar
peak silo
peak silo
solemn crystal
rugged spadeBOT
hollow briar
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yk

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theres "frankenstein", vampires, werewolf(s), slime monsters, mole people, ghosts

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im thinking of more old time-y myths so they'll probably do an invisible man at some point

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and they might make the troubadour a jack the ripper style character

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but thats a bit older

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jekyll and hyde character, a sea monster to maybe expand on the deep, ufo's and aliens

peak silo
peak silo
hollow briar
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@grim roost deadlock?

grim roost
hollow briar
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Maybe tomorrow or around 11:30 if you’re still down

grim roost
peak silo
peak silo
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ulting werewolf silver as doorman is never not funny

hollow briar
peak silo
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its just mental busywork without the mod

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just look at ui right now

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a lot of it was implemented from the ui mod

hollow briar
grim roost
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grim roost
hollow briar
peak silo
peak silo
elfin oak
peak silo
steady kestrel
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Welp...
(Got access on Thursday, games been a lot of fun aside from this soph)

solemn crystal
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who left first?

steady kestrel
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The Rem on the enemy team

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Then it was a 3v3 for a while

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Then it was just me

peak silo
solemn crystal
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bro left wave 1 lol

steady kestrel
charred vapor
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Dam

solemn crystal
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solo q is insane

charred vapor
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Nah it's fine

solemn crystal
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dont nah its fine me

charred vapor
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Well i don't give a fuck

steady kestrel
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It's been fine for me so far. The Disconnect match was the only loss I have at the moment.

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Though I'll keep that in mind soph

charred vapor
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also mostly solo

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youll be fine

hollow briar
steady kestrel
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Vindicta, Rem and Celeste are my 3 favourites so far

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Paige, Venator, Graves and Mina are pretty cool as well

peak silo
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winter ingot
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alright how do I start learning this game

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I played like 5 years of league (badly) so I think I have the basic moba fundamentals but I ain't know shit-all else

peak silo
winter ingot
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incredible title

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thank you!

winter ingot
peak silo
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I don't know what that means

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How do you stack waves in lol?

grim roost
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they removed stacking/frezing waves in deadlock

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minions do a shit ton of dmg in lane if you dont kill them, no jungler to worry about ganking, and towers are significantly weaker since you can parry them to disable

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so push and be aggro

peak silo
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Also dont push without troopers cuz then the enemy troopers will focus you insted of your troopers

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and they do a ton of damage in lane phase

winter ingot
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okay so I just got my ass annihilated after watching that video and playing the tutorial I somehoww think I know less about the game than I did beforehaand

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what are souls

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how do I heal

winter ingot
grim roost
winter ingot
# peak silo How do you stack waves in lol?

in league you could set a wave up close to your side with a slight numerical advantage, build a giant horde of minions, and send it towards the enemy in a way wher ethey either go address it RIGHT NOW or it takes down a tower

grim roost
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also, in each wave theres one healing minion(with a flag) that drops a healing orb when killed

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it heals more depending on how much missing HP u have

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but in laning phase, you can build items like healing rite, regen, restorative shot, etc to sustain lane

winter ingot
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okay so I maybe forgot you can buy items until the last 90 seconds of the match,

grim roost
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theres a shop next to each lane

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so u dont need to go back to base to buy items

peak silo
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I would hop on but i am form EU

winter ingot
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I think if I had to play this game alongside and against people who frfr knew what they were doing rn I would uninstall it

grim roost
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have u tried the street brawl gamemode? that mode helps you learn how to fight, lets you learn about each items, etc

peak silo
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True!

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There is no farming only fighting in lane

grim roost
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some people learn how to play mechanically before they focus on learning macro like farming, rotating, etc

peak silo
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I've heard its like aram in LoL

grim roost
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learning in the main mode is obviously fine too

grim roost
winter ingot
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I HAAAAAAAAAATE ARAM

grim roost
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lmfao fair

peak silo
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But oyu can choose who to play

winter ingot
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"it's constant teamfighting, so you can't do the fun laning stuff!"

peak silo
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I suppose

winter ingot
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I like managing waves, I like pushing minions, I like coming in from unconventional angles

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I do not like playing Overwatch

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still trying to figure out who I wanna play, lotta this cast seems pretty awesome

grim roost
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try graves or haze if you havent already

winter ingot
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my one match I played I hit random and it gave me yamato and I learned I do not want to play yamato

grim roost
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graves is the splitpusher sidelaner and haze does everything u described as well

winter ingot
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trying to get a graves game eventually, I LOVE yorick

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THROWING A SLEEP DAGGER DOES NOT BREAK INVISIBILITY YOU SAY!!!!!

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SAY NO MORE!

grim roost
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in character select, there should be a token in the top middle that guarantees any character you want once

grim roost
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you get it recharged by just playing the game

winter ingot
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YO HAZE IS SICK TY

grim roost
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shes a fan fav lol, very fun

winter ingot
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is spirit damage just magic/ability damage?

peak silo
grim roost
winter ingot
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now that I will not be playing yamato and will remember to buy items and know that headshots do in fact to extra damage, I cannot possibly play worse than my previous match

winter ingot
grim roost
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and spirit can increase other aspects of abilities

winter ingot
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there's no third damage type I assume unless it's like, true damage equivalent?

grim roost
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like haze ult duration is increased off of spirit, but damage is from gun

grim roost
winter ingot
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this is what I'm working with rn

grim roost
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venator and geist are the two main people for it

winter ingot
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anyone good to play if you're dog shit at aiming? lmao

grim roost
peak silo
grim roost
winter ingot
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also yorick

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love yorick

grim roost
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theres more but those popped out more to me

winter ingot
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LMFAO

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do you just have one of those for everyone in the cast??

peak silo
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no

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i just searched up mcginnis in gif search

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I like playing mcginnis them most

winter ingot
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very disappointing to have got a character I was interested in and get locked out

peak silo
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its super easy to win lanes with her

winter ingot
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glad to know MOBA players transcend games

winter ingot
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OOOOOOOOOOO

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THAT'S THE VIBE I WAS GETTING

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  • warwick
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who is ALSO tons of fun

grim roost
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hes kinda close to haze where you flank and off angle people

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you stalk instead of frontlining in a reamfight

winter ingot
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DO i NEED TO GET LAST HITS?

peak silo
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yeah

grim roost
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no

peak silo
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only when you unlock third ability

grim roost
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even if the minion dies from something else then you get the gold

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ONLY when the enemy shoot the soul that pops out then they get the gold

peak silo
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Megalo are you talking about drifters third ability?

grim roost
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so you shoot it out when you are in lane against em

solemn crystal
grim roost
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mb if they were talking about drifter, but last hits is just a common term for minions in league

peak silo
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Oh

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Yeah i dont know league

winter ingot
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WHAT I DO WITH URN

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oh I was typing in caps mbmb

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hey I managed to not sink my team a match!

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haha I get it

winter ingot
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in league you do not get gold for a minion's death unless you yourself hit it last

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thanks for all the info btw!!

peak silo
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I see

winter ingot
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went from doing fuck-all damage to being a legitimate threat because I sniped a couple kills

steady kestrel
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Keep in mind, all your abilities are disabled and you appear on the map for the enemy while holding it, so you need to play with your team so you don't get sniped

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Also, I just saw I got my rank
Honestly, much higher than I was expecting

hollow briar
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goodbye venator

peak silo
steady kestrel
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I definitely feel like my rank is a little high for my current skill though, since I've not been doing that great in recent matches

hollow briar
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im carried as fuck

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I copy other peoples builds

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I miss all my shots

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any rank is too high for me

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but if i land a bebop hook from across the lane then im truly the best

steady kestrel
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So true umu

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Though I hit most of the shots that matter, except my sniper shots on Vindicta, which I miss most of soph

winter ingot
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that's me!

peak silo
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YES

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!!!

winter ingot
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doing objective damage and flinging turrets around in teamfights while shooting vaguely in the correct direction

winter ingot
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(but hey, enemy team didn't get it either!)

steady kestrel
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If you look at the map while someone's carrying it, it should be pretty obvious. It's a bright blue outline on the opposite side of the map.

winter ingot
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yeah on the minimap, but like, do I just walk it into a giant pot shaped outline

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surely there's a pedestal or something?

peak silo
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there is

winter ingot
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how bad an idea is relying on their default builds?

steady kestrel
peak silo
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ofc they aint min maxxed but they work

winter ingot
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mcginnis is just heimerdinger but beefy and I kind of hate that I like playing her LMAO

peak silo
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It should look liek this

hollow briar
winter ingot
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is there a way to set a priority order for characters you want to play or does it just 'randomly' pull from the pool you select?

peak silo
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click on them multiple times

winter ingot
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oh sick ty

regal terrace
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@grim roost deadlock later?

grim roost
grim roost
regal terrace
grim roost
regal terrace
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@zyx

grim roost
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when is later

regal terrace
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wrong account

regal terrace
grim roost
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5 mins we finishing a street brawl

peak silo
solemn crystal
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would you belive me if i said we almost lost this match because the Celeste was unkillable

grim roost
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surprised ginnis didnt build gun

solemn crystal
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it was street brawl so maybe they did get any? Celeste was the only one with SR by the end

hollow briar
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@solemn crystal

solemn crystal
peak silo
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oh my.lord

peak silo
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hell yeah

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he got the jacket

steady kestrel
peak silo
winter ingot
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vindicta seems p cool

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graves also very cool

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match was under 19 minutes because we massacred our lane so bad they both ragequit

ironically it was gonna be my first vindicta match but my lane opponent took her and thought she was invincible if she flew over the bridge where I could just jump and shoot her over and over

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would not have done nearly as well if I'd gotten the character I wanted lmao

peak silo
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hell yeah

steady kestrel
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new patch notes

hollow briar
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I’ll take it

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My characters got buffed

hollow briar
steady kestrel
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Not sure at the moment

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Though for me, Celeste and Rem got a slap on the wrist, Vindicta got some pretty big adjustments across the board that I think is an overall buff, and Silver got shot and given a bandage.

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I'm fine with it overall though

hollow briar
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@grim roost did your characters get nerfed

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I read through like 3 characters and I know that graves, viscous, infernus, and pocket are fine/buffed

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I might pick up seven again too now

steady kestrel
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I only ready a few as well. Aside from the ones I play, I looked at Apollo. They kneecapped him again

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Also Paige got some fun changes

grim roost
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shiv giga nerfed at 43% winrate too was a bummer

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but those re the ones im most excited for

steady kestrel
solemn crystal
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BILLY BUFFS

grim roost
solemn crystal
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WHOO THIS CHARACTER NEEDED THEM

grim roost
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her late game is better but if you are losing more early game to get there then overall i think her power is reduced

hollow briar
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ok who wants to play rn

grim roost
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blender on rn too

hollow briar
grim roost
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ye

hollow briar
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timeguy you donw

solemn crystal
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oh they reworked wraith

peak silo
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W turret mcginns

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100 billion turrets

hollow briar
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@grim roost you saw this right

grim roost
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yea, but to guarantee someone doesnt checkout you would need to burn cooldowns longer than 10s

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like slowing hex, cart, knockdown, etc

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so realistically its only 2 people

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which is still a good buff

hollow briar
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also this

grim roost
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LMFAOO

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thats actually cool

hollow briar
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though so that sucks a little

silk flint
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Why did Shiv get nerfed hard?

peak silo
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cuz i hate him

solemn crystal
winter ingot
peak silo
steady kestrel
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So I just played a bot match with the new Vindicta changes, they're so good

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The potential to have infinite uptime on flight without items is so nice

peak silo
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gamers

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imagine turret mcginnis before the patch

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now imagine her 1.75 times more cancerous

solemn crystal
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Actually the knives changes look fun

peak silo
hollow briar
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The deadlock visual novel is good

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Lady Geist is really hot here

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I think I like her look in the vn more than the game

peak silo
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oh yeah

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this patch is great

hollow briar
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These are fun changes

peak silo
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😭

peak silo
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ballistic enchantment is funny

winter ingot
silk flint
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Once the games fully released, that's how you're gonna get the lore

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Kinda like TF2 and it's comics

hollow briar
hollow briar
steady kestrel
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Just had my best game so far

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Biggest comeback of a century

peak silo
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Very nice

steady kestrel
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Patch adjustments

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TL;DR
Buff to Golden Egg (new item)
Slight nerf to Torment Pulse

Slight Doorman Nerf (on his Ult T3)
Slight Ivy Nerf
Solid Paradox Buffs
Small Silver Buffs
Slight Viscous Nerfs
and some Nerfs for Wraith

peak silo
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shame silver got buffed

peak silo
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#deadlock #graves #voicelines

All the latest voicelines as of 29/01/2026

Every newly added interactions with other heroes, featuring Seven, Holliday, Infernus, Rem and Haze!

Full playlist starts here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSwRtiuZxaU&list=PL00tUmmYxXllKKJ8cJFBWkudh2P-5ho2V

Deadlock is an upcoming MOBA Hero Shooter developed by ...

▶ Play video
peak silo
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when viktor hits 40k souls

quasi jay
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:o

steady kestrel
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italian no sauce

quasi jay
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That is the voiceline its true

winter ingot
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am I insane or is not building stamina at all on shiv a terrible idea

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317683

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like surely you would want extra charges on the knife and more stamina, right? like, surely that would be central to playing him

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am I just completely stupid

peak silo
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dont use it

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personally i use 196212

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Got some annotations too so you arent completly lost

peak silo
grim roost
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Id argue the opposite, the better you are the more you can do with stamina

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Stamina mastery is goated tho

winter ingot
peak silo
peak silo
hollow briar
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@grim roost @lavish isle @solemn crystal @silk flint any of you wanna play deadlock

winter ingot
grim roost
charred vapor
peak silo
winter ingot
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am I right that shiv's daggers are THE biggest damage over time effect?

I saw what happens when you land 6 of them on someone with 20k more souls than you and I was AMAZED tbh, idk if there's anything comparable to that in the game tho

steady kestrel
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Yeah, they reworked his daggers in the most recent patch so they deal no impact damage but have crazy DoT

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Infernus' Afterburn is probably the only thing that comes close

winter ingot
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if it's just been added this patch the ability to win duels by flinging daggers feels like it's gonna get toned down at some point because I'm winning fights that feel impossible on any other character

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I had a mo and krill that was WAY out of hand running from me in terror because I solo'd him

I had a lady geist eat 6 daggers, ult triumphantly, eat a 7th and evaporate

peak silo
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each dagger also refreshes duration

winter ingot
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exactly that shit is crazy

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it also seems to make him CRAZY good against viscous?

viscous go ball? oh, easy target for daggers then. viscous go cube? dagger will be waiting when he leaves.

it's so funny hearing my friends go "how can we even kill X character" and I slink up, fling four daggers and melt them

peak silo
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Have fun while it lasts

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Like iam playing Mcginnis with her massive ult

winter ingot
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getting three charges at 800 souls is so fucking busted in lane

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love DoT

steady kestrel
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Meanwhile, the ever-humble Dispel Magic KizunaAiSmug

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I really need to buy that more

winter ingot
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ain't no one buying it against me

steady kestrel
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Fair point UbelWheeze

winter ingot
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funny thing, my rating is seeker 2 but I have the "below skill rating" icon on every character

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this is just science tho

steady kestrel
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Man, I gotta check the winrates on my characters now

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All I know is that I have a 100% winrate on Celeste since I always get someone disconnecting in half my Celeste games ChillBar_dead

winter ingot
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the worst part of playing lash was finding out lash players have been having fun the whole time

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devastating news

steady kestrel
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oh that's bad

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The only characters I have above 50% winrate on are Rem, Celeste and Vindicta

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Though to be fair, I don't have many matches actually recorded, since I mostly play Bot matches to test characters and that's taken up about half of my playtime

peak silo
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my goat

hollow briar
winter ingot
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y'all I started eight days ago

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and I haven't played today at all since like technically past midnight

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I uh

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I think I might like this game

grim roost
winter ingot
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I play like 10 matches on a character to learn them then move on

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if you put a gun to my head and said "WIN OR DIE" I'm picking graves or shiv

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I'm still wanting to learn the entire cast before I really go crazy, like I did in league

grim roost
winter ingot
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though some characters I don't think I need 10 games. Vindicta I learned immediately is not for me lmao

winter ingot
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inching closer to a 50% winrate

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one guess as to why

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I would like if more often when my team won it was because of me and if they lose it isn't because of me

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it does feel like the matchmaking puts me in parties that carry me

grim roost
winter ingot
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some character thoughts:

  • Graves I play because I love her aesthetic, I hate aiming, I spent time as a Yorick main in League and she's free splitpush whenever you want which is insanely strong at low levels.

  • Silver I like turning into a werewolf but I am so fucking trash in lane on her.

  • Mina I love and have gone 5-9, and I promise you those 5 are not wins I contributed to

  • Apollo I am having AMAZING results with and he feels GREAT and I'm intentionally stalling playing him more because I don't want to rank too far ahead of my local friends while they're still playing

  • Lash is so fucking fun and I can teamfight really well with him but I am again so fucking dogass in lane

  • Seven is my best results to date just overall, I feel like I consistently have a lot of control over how I'm doing. His ability to powerfarm is unreal

  • Wraith I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE her theming and I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE the cards being random but I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaate playing her in lane so much and the matches I do well with her it's because I bought monster rounds and zap bullets, got ricochet like 2nd or 3rd big item, and powerfarmed into relevance.

  • Shiv feels GREAT I fucking LOVE DoT play and I can't find anything on par with the insanity of his knives. Casually killing any tank for the crime of having a large hurtbox because I have 7 knives and before I've spent all 7 I got 2 more back.

  • Venator I LOOOOOOVE his theming, I LOOOOOOOOOVE his design, I am again SOOOOOOOOOOOO bad in lane with him.

  • I do not like playing Lady Geist because her spells feel like shit to use to me and I think her ult is gimmicky and boring and too much of her power budget

  • everyone else I've played I need more experience on to actually draw conclusions about them

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I don't think I've successfully played a single Mina game with a positive K/D and less than 10 deaths

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this is my best mina game IIRC

grim roost
winter ingot
# grim roost it seems in general that you struggle with laning phase. Which characters do you...

my belief is that I'm bad in lane because I'm trying to play league of legends silver 2 lane and in that game it's all about wave manipulation and taking short trades, and I get baited into longer fights or make bad positioning choices, die, and struggle to play from behind

I take too much damage, sustain too little and it feels like whenever I choose to either go back or stick around it's always the wrong choice; either way behind on xp from boxing while I wait on healing rite, or behind on xp from going back, or behind on xp from dying

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I take too much damage and am not doing a good enough job denying souls because I am so bad at aiming

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I think my best lane might be graves because I play it safer, go for poke with excess jar stacks, and bait people into trying to dive me, then get insanely aggro whenever I have ult and win trades for free

I also found out you can drop ult in front of someone, then parry the heavy attack they instinctively do and kill them

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I also have a lower success rate than I should with parrying, and I think my laning itemization prioritization is dogshit but I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong

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I do still keep making really stupid mistakes too like hitting Q when I want 1 or hitting E instead of F for parry

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league taught me my abilities are qwer and I struggle so bad to adjust to 1234

grim roost
# winter ingot my belief is that I'm bad in lane because I'm trying to play league of legends s...

This one is always dependant on which characters you are playing. Characters like Graves or Haze LIVES for the long trades while a character like Mina basically gets their Bite proc and fucks off. Taking too much damage might because of WHEN you decide to fight, usually its better for you to initiate a trade when their minions are dead and/or ur minions are alive (its also ok to go for a trade where you get low HP if the healing minion is up since it heals you based off of missing %HP)>

winter ingot
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see I mostly played solo lanes in league and I'm not doing a great job of playing with my lane partners too is part of my problem also I suspect

grim roost
winter ingot
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oh I did not know that

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thank you for the info!

grim roost
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lmk if you ever want more character specific advice, i play a lot of the characters you do too (except for graves). Used to be top 50 lash and I think I was top 500 Mina last patch too iirc

winter ingot
winter ingot
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thanks so much I love getting help with this kind of thing

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when you're dueling as lash early and don't have a 2 stack is it usually worth burning a stamina to double jump for the extra damage on 1?

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also is there anything in the game that feels as good as dragging a vindicta out of the sky with 1 and blowing her up as lash LMAO

grim roost
winter ingot
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the general teamfight approach with him is jump in, press 1, hit people, immediate 3, immediately leave and repeat off cooldowns right?

grim roost
winter ingot
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flank -> dive -> burst someone -> land 1 on everyone you can -> 2 away -> shoot more -> 2 again -> shoot more -> 2 again -> re-evaluate, probably hide for a few seconds, and press 1 on anyone who tries to follow you

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is the mina flowchart I play

but I miss 80% of my shots probably so,

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I DID make exactly one REALLY sick play with mina, but my score at the end of the match was 5-16 so

grim roost
# winter ingot the general teamfight approach with him is jump in, press 1, hit people, immedia...

Bascially you position in a place where the enemies dont notice you so can set up your Ult (#1 Priority if you have it) or just a slam + 3 on a squishy target or anyone important so they cant help the team as much. 2 is an engage and disengage since ideally you have rapid recharge by then. You should also add in rotations of active items such as Cold Front. A standard combo can be smthing like 2 > 1 > Cold Front > Shoot > 3 as they are walking away > 2 away

grim roost
# winter ingot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT6xJ_mGTQ4

you have a generally good understanding of what Mina wants to do, but I will say that your general movement and stamina management could be better since you are weakest when your 2 is on cooldown as that is your main escape. Learning movement tools such as walljumps, sliding after instant air dashes, etc. can what gives you enough time to stall for your cooldowns to come back online and take another trade

winter ingot
winter ingot
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oh another thing I'm proud of I'm REALLY good at using the urn to manipulate the match

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I'm good-ish at not just mindlessly running in and giving them a free urn, I've gotten good at being 0-17 and fucking worthless BUT I can peel a fight by picking up the urn and posturing to relieve pressure, then simply run back to the sidelane and take a building

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I learned last night a quick melee forces a drop

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game changer

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WAIT

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OMG

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YOU CAN USE IAD SLIDE IN PLACES YOU'D USE ROLL DURING A FIGHT

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YOU'RE SO RIGHT

grim roost
winter ingot
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that shit is my jam

grim roost
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makes sense why you like Graves then lmao

winter ingot
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Seven is FUCKING NUTS at it too

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the amount of times I've eaten shit in lane, "disappeared" from the map, grabbed a couple waves and vanished again, and then six minutes go by and I suddenly appear, take a walker and two base turrets, vanish, take another walker

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it is WILD what he can do if you give him 20 seconds

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and your jungle clear is so healthy, and his base stamina so good, and the 3 buff on movement so helpful, I've legit been a fucking terror with him in multiple games because people do not know how to coordinate

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I WILL press 2 on you. I WILL backtrack. I WILL chill in a closet for 20 seconds while you chase a ghost. I WILL kill a walker and do it again

grim roost
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Seven tends to be the cahracter that requires the most souls but its because he is probably one of the strongest characters with itmes since he uses them so effectively

winter ingot
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juking people gives me the same feeling I got in league playing leblanc and trolling entire teams

grim roost
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All categories of items are ones that he can get the most values out of

winter ingot
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around 85% uptime on 3 is INSANE

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he is so good with a couple items and that buff turned on

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I have turned around situations I have no business turning around because surprise, I CAN burst you down despite being 0-12

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like it's funny how many of my matches are

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0-12 -> 6-12 -> 10-13

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If I can just get better at laning I'm gonna zoom up I feel it

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because my league knowledge of laning is fucking me over, but my league knowledge of team fights playing asshole flanker characters who terrorize people is paying off massively

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the ability to know how to be exactly irritating enough you're useful and just frustrating enough that the entire enemy team doesn't all at once turn on you, or being able to escape when something like that happens? peak feeling

grim roost
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tbh I think its always better to be weaker at laning than after. General macro and getting lost on what you should be doing is far more often with newer players and it leads to them falling behind

winter ingot
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in league solo laning is like, 95% your knowledge of wave manipulation and the ability to read where the enemy jungler is, which is just not a factor here like it is there.

there's also strats there that don't work here like going extremely hard to crash a wave and deny a ton of minions, but the respawn is so short early and the trip back so comparatively fast you can't force someone to be two levels down like that

grim roost
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Recovering from a lost lane is a feat in itself, and learning how to lane is smthing more easily fixed

winter ingot
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like in league on many characters eespecially in top lane you can build up a GARGANTUAN wave and just force them to die/leave and deny them ALL of it, come back to a wave returning to you, and get a 2 level, 1200 gold advantage without a single kill

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which funny thing gold in league VS souls in deadlock is almost exactly 1 gold = 2 souls

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in value, item purchasing, etc.

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in deadlock building massive waves just is not really an option like that

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and trying to gets you jumped on or shot

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at least in my experience it has

winter ingot
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very easy to come back as a mobile character with good/great jungle clear when the entire jungle exists for you and your teammates can't look at the minimap graciously donate waves to you

grim roost
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there was a small part of deadlocks history where you could wave manipulate like that, it was removed pretty quickly though. Ig people enjoy more simplified wavestates if it means they get to take more fights/trades instead

winter ingot
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booooooooooooooooo

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wave manip best part of mobas :(

grim roost
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but before you could parry melee minions and temporarily stun them to build up big freezes and force the enemy in awkward positions

winter ingot
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go, my army of minions

grim roost
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that got removed tho

winter ingot
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can I just say parrying turrets is cocaine

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the satisfaction, the sense of vengeance

grim roost
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its a very useful tech

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towerdiving feels so good in this game, just airdashing to that turret for a fadeaway parry is a great feeling

winter ingot
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it's so good

solemn crystal
solemn crystal
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yoshi hates me

charred vapor
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Well a small silver buf is nice

peak silo
charred vapor
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Ig I am ass at this game so idk match

peak silo
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idc about her ult form cuz i just run away

charred vapor
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It fills like She's ballance entirely around

steady kestrel
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Welp, Celeste got another slap on the wrist

peak silo
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nah

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ult refund removal is amazing

steady kestrel
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Yeah, that's the only really impactful change

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But doesn't matter if you just, y'know, don't miss

peak silo
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also shining wonder linger reduction is great

steady kestrel
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Yeah, fair

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Though that one doesn't feel as major to me

peak silo
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wait i thought it was reduced form 3.5 to 3

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nvm

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i cant read

steady kestrel
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Yeah.
They reduced from 4.5 to 3.25 in the first patch, so another .25 seconds is kinda whatever

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Also, the Dazzling Trick change is actually a buff since it makes the shield easier to break in late-game

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So you're more likely to get the silence proc

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Which is funny

peak silo
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thats very niche

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ifi was celeste i would want more survivability

steady kestrel
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Nah, that's what her movement's for

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Just B-hop around their assses and they can't hit you soph

peak silo
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true
but i play mcginnis so

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differant mindset

steady kestrel
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Yeah, for sure

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But I mostly use the shield to pop it and dive into a group of enemies so they get punished for hitting me because of the silence

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Since it's pretty flimsy late-game anyway

peak silo
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cna shield be canceled by curse?

steady kestrel
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I'm not sure. I think once it's cast, it's just there, though I'm not 100% on that

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I've not been hit by enough CC during the shield to notice

peak silo
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yeah probably

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its not channeled right?

steady kestrel
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Nope

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It's just immediate

winter ingot
# peak silo ult refund removal is amazing

That was always the part that killed me

On top of everything else she gets what do you mean if you fuck up your 20+ hit ultimate it comes back sooner so you can try again

peak silo
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if they wanted to keep it they should give refund to paradox and holiday

peak silo
peak silo
steady kestrel
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so

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good news

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I'm no longer hard-stuck in Ritualist

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bad news

peak silo
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worrying about rank is pointless rn

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its a mess

steady kestrel
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Yeah, I know

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Still kinda sucks

charred vapor
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@quasi jay

quasi jay
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Wa as ow

silk flint
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Fortnite

charred vapor
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idk it looks good

silk flint
charred vapor
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ok

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mb

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than

silk flint
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I just think it's funny to point out fortnite

charred vapor
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i see

winter ingot
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I love the katamari viscous mods so much I'm considering it

peak silo
peak silo
steady kestrel
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o h

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o h n o

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Either way, I picked up Holliday today

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She's very fun soph

peak silo
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i want to pick up holiday too

steady kestrel
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I suck at making use of her Ult, but I've been really vibing with the rest of her kit

peak silo
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she is like

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mini lash

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as in her ult only takes one person

steady kestrel
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Yeah, kinda

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Though you can play a fair bit safer with her, since most of her stuff has pretty long range

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Though you need better aim to compensate

solemn crystal
winter ingot
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okay maybe infernus is for me

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outhealed an abrams on infernus LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

winter ingot
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waiting for the other shoe to drop at this point tbh

winter ingot
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won a game with mid-boss in the funniest way possible

winter ingot
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what spend souls on

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lash is confused............

steady kestrel
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Buy resistance items if you think you're dying too fast, otherwise I think you're set

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I'd swap out one of the active items if you do end up buying something

peak silo
# winter ingot what spend souls on

dont get escalating exposure on lash
lash does burst damage but Escalating exposure stacks up after getting damaged like 12 times for max amp

steady kestrel
peak silo
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notice anything?

charred vapor
rugged spadeBOT
grim roost
hollow briar
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Viscous might get a crumb one day

hollow briar
steady kestrel
steady kestrel
peak silo
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it sucks ass

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If oyu want to play lash look for "Big damage absolute chad lash. bebop sucks" build

winter ingot
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LMFAO

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Thank you!!

charred vapor
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Lmao

winter ingot
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apparently sajam misinformed me and deadlockmeta.com is not in fact a good resource for quality builds

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smh

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@silk flint at the time I was not grateful enough, thank you for informing me not to use builds from metro or that one website that uses the AI

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sorry for the delayed show of appreciation

peak silo
winter ingot
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yeah exactly

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in theory I understand the reasoning behind the spirit damage stacking ability thing because like you do your combo and shoot them then come back in before the stacks expire but in practice it feels so ass to do

peak silo
winter ingot
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yeah fuck that lmao

solemn crystal
winter ingot
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there's a discord???

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I mean I guess that's obvious but

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IDK why it didn't occur to me

solemn crystal
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its in the main menu

winter ingot
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wait really

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god damn

charred vapor
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I am just stilling my build from the discord server now

peak silo
# winter ingot yeah exactly

also dont sleep on silence wave
excellent cc tool after you use your ultimate and makes it safer for you to GROUND POUND after it

hollow briar
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anyone wanna play deadlock?

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@silk flint @solemn crystal @grim roost @lavish isle

charred vapor
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robbing even

solemn crystal
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i may also need to play a game of low prio

hollow briar
peak silo
peak silo
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by @rosewaterjelly

steady kestrel
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Just finished one of my best games so far (also my longest) KizunaAiSmug

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Also, it made me realise I haven't faced a good Celeste player until now...

hollow briar
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anyone wanna play deadlock

winter ingot
charred vapor
winter ingot
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Okay so is Apollo crazy strong, did he just click with me super hard, or is he like a new player stomp character or something

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It feels like it's impossible to have a truly bad game with him. Lose lane? Play safe, press 1 to farm, get a couple buys and start playing like you went 20-0 in lane

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I've lost matches but I've never felt like it was inevitable that I would at ten minutes. Usually the loss comes from a close team fight, or a team that will not stop seeking fights where they're outnumbered by enemy characters with radically higher soul counts

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Occasionally I make a bad read and get jumped in a side lane, but it's like

I play Mina, I almost invariably feed in lane and play catch-up. Badly. Ditto wraith, drifter (I KNOW), silver, I'm getting clowned on in lane pretty much every time but Apollo I just go in press 3 with timing a few times, press 2 if it feels necessary or press 1 and bail. Bam, free trade, I won it, see ya suckers

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I'm having OK times with infernus in lane too idk why

peak silo
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itll be easier to aim it

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and time it

winter ingot
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Can you set binds per character?

steady kestrel
winter ingot
steady kestrel
winter ingot
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SICK

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Thanks!!!!!

steady kestrel
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No problem soph

grim roost
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And even if you do manage to live, you get silenced from Silencer, Slowing Hex, Curse, etc

hollow briar
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@silk flint @charred vapor and you europeans

grim roost
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This applies to a lot of other characters that are burst oriented. A fed Lash feels great early to mid when you are popping them like balloons but the second the carries are building items like Spellbreaker you can't really do much since sustained DPS (aka Gun) is king for late game (similar to how ADCs are lategame carries while assassins do better late)

hollow briar
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who wants to deadlock

grim roost
hollow briar
grim roost
winter ingot
hollow briar
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And now I can’t solo que

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It’s not even bad but I can’t play at like 3 am now

peak silo
steady kestrel
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Actual nightmare team

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I single-handedly split-pushed two walkers and we still lost

peak silo
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mmr is cooked