How do you work towards that, though?
#Roguelikes
sturdy yarrow
somber sonnet
is it the joker helix card that permanently copies and adds a card to your deck if you play a single card ?
then theres that upgrade card...cant remember if its a planet card or not that you select two cards and the second selected card turns into a copy of the first selected card
sherlock is better informed once he gets around to reading this
sturdy yarrow
So, just hope you get lots of duplicates?
somber sonnet
that joker that dupes pulls in work the run i saw think he had 82 cards and 46 of them were aces
somber sonnet
the advice i saw was on a new run you skip both blinds for the upgrades then depending on what appears in the shop after the boss pretty much sets you up for your kind a build. getting a joke early that starts a 4/5 of a kind engine is pretty goated
sturdy yarrow
So just savescum a lot?
summer oasis
What difficulty level are you on?
sturdy yarrow
I've only beaten Red with one deck...
summer oasis
Red is the first difficulty level, right?
sturdy yarrow
The second one
summer oasis
Ok.
sturdy yarrow
White's the first, right?
summer oasis
The general strat is to setup econ first.
There are 2 things I would suggest early game.
sturdy yarrow
Pick the Abandoned deck, right?
summer oasis
Get a common joker for a common hand type early on. You will eventually end up selling this. But this lets you bank cash and get more rewards out of Ante.
somber sonnet
off topic but im curious. for bosses that you dont score or w/e on repeat hands. does the game take into account the high card is or is all diamond flush count towards that?
summer oasis
You want to try and hit the interest cap quickly.
sturdy yarrow
off topic but im curious. for bosses that you dont score or w/e on repeat hands....
Pardon?
summer oasis
There are a lot of interesting jokers that let you scale without having to play flushes.
Striped pants, for e.g, lets you win off pairs.
sturdy yarrow
yeah
but there's so many dang Jokers, it's hard to luck into them when you're actually going for them
summer oasis
Higher difficultties, you cannot win even off flushes simply beacuse scaling jokers are more important than the actual hand.
I have won runs off just doing high cards. For e.g, if you get the joker that adds mult = the number of itmes you played a specific hand, you can just spam high card and that will let you scale much faster early on. Because high cards win antes slowly, you have more opportunties to scale it.
Don't get too caught up on hand types. They don't win runs. Jokers are the main thing.
The base scaling on a hand type gets seriously dwarfed by the scaling you get off jokers.
So, it's really about setting up an economy so that you can splurge on good jokers when you run into them.
And buying a cheap tempo joker early on will let you survive the early game without burning cash to survive.
Stuff like +50 chips for a pair might sound bad (coz it is as you go deeper into the game), but is the difference between being able to setting up an economy or losing to ante 2 boss.
sturdy yarrow
Don't get too caught up on hand types. They don't win runs. Jokers are the main ...
Well, sure, I just mean to unlock the Joker that needs you to win a run without Flushes
or the Joker that needs to play four 7 of Clubs
summer oasis
Also consider skipping Antes. Especially with red state, small blinds stops ginve you reward. So you your expected value becomes out of small blind becomes something like interest payout + expected remaining hands and the value of getting a free joker pack outscales that.
sturdy yarrow
Why wouldn't I play on White Stake if I'm Joker hunting?
summer oasis
The stakes just represent challenge levels. I always assume that the game is balanced around higher difficulties. I was able to win white stake consistently so it made sense to go up the difficulty ladder. No particular reason not to play in white stakes.
sturdy yarrow
well, I eventually lucked into it
Do I just do the same thing for the "four 7 of Clubs" unlock?
sturdy yarrow
There's not a Joker that benefits 7s other than Odd Todd, right?
summer oasis
Finally managed to beat the purple stake.
somber sonnet
is that the hardest?
summer oasis
So, what's the take on dead cells? Any good? I didn't realize that I actually owned it all this time and apparently they just finished fully developing the game. A very rare occurence in the year 2024.
somber sonnet
i like it, hard as shit. takes a while before you can unlock the stuff to make runs hella fun
jolly estuary
So, what's the take on dead cells? Any good? I didn't realize that I actually ow...
its one of my favorites
actually in the 0.1% of good roguelikes
its really really fun and the unlocks are great
difficulty scaling goes crazyy
you can sink so many hours into it and sometimes you really just flow through a crowd of enemies with funny parries
synergies are also everywhere
rain breach
So, what's the take on dead cells? Any good? I didn't realize that I actually ow...
i dont like it personally but thats a pretty rare opinion
i just dont like how easy it is to find the same weapons each run and just have pretty much the exact same run each time
i wish there was more randomness
everything else is fine
in fact the area variety is some of my favorite in any roguelike
going to a different area each run and getting rewarded for choosing a route you dont usually take is great
sturdy yarrow
bruh
somber sonnet
summer oasis
Took forever to get this win.
Simple but powerful setup. Striped pants showing up early is so run defining.
Space joker is really strong hand scaling too. I never thought of it that way, but having your hand level go up without having to dump cash into planet cards is so strong. My two pair was like level 13. I don't think I spent cash on anything apart from the jokers, so the orange stake debuff is irrelevant.
Also, meant that bull joker can scale efficiently coz i was not spending cash.
Card sharp is really good mult joker for high card/pair/two pair kinda runs because they are very easy hands to play.
Fibanocci is a value add in any run.
I think I can see how to play high stakes a bit more efficeintly.
You want jokers to be the main source of score and focus on easy to play hands instead of trying to make flushes work.
Flushes become progressively hard to scale and hard to play with hand size/discard debuffs
sturdy yarrow
What would you say the best deck is for stake climbing? Tarot? Abandoned?
summer oasis
I did it with red.
subtle plinth
@old moss do you/have you played One Step from Eden?
old moss
<@832838874845675550> do you/have you played One Step from Eden?
Mhm. You’re better off asking @sharp token though.
Game was very OD for me
subtle plinth
it's so fast
How am i supposed to be playing a deck builder while playing a bullet hell lite
sharp token
How am i supposed to be playing a deck builder while playing a bullet hell lite
Definitely trial by fire
it’s rough at first but you get used to the movement eventually and the enemy patterns
if bosses specifically are causing you trouble, you can also choose certain worlds to get them earlier rather than later
subtle plinth
sturdy yarrow
wait, but the Square Joker is doing almost nothing...
summer oasis
I scaled it up early in the game. So, it was providing chips.
summer oasis
Getting to gold stake with blue deck.
The strategy is very different between red and blue. Only having 2 discards really changes the joker valuation.
somber sonnet
Had a coughing fit that woke me up and prevented me from falling asleep but it allowed me to finally check out a game I've been meaning to play for ages. Loop hero is such a good and chill game
summer oasis
loop hero is solid
rough lynx
I have a few hours in it and I'm afraid I wasn't much of a fan. It didn't feel engaging to me at all.
somber sonnet
i had the same thought when i originally played it. i got it cuz streamers were having fun with it and i liked the art and music, plus i wanted a cool down game. a game i can play when i want to play something but didnt want to commit to a story game or something
sturdy yarrow
Loop Hero is cool but it feels really grindy to me
somber sonnet
ezpz now i can uninstall
empty spruce
Any rougelike reccomondations
lunar pendant
Hades and Dead Cells from me
subtle plinth
Risk of Rain 2 is a lot of fun
empty spruce
I have all 3 of those games
Hades was my first rougelike.
Also Aphrodite is the worst god. No question.
her main redeeming quality is her cast
which is pretty good.
Actually wait: Opinion: Who is the worst god in Hades.
If I had to rank them from worst to best I would say
Worst: Aphrodite
Dyonisus
Zues
Artemis
Poseidon
Hermes
Athena
Demeter
Ares
Best: Chaos
empty spruce
Risk of Rain 2 is a lot of fun
The bosses in ROR2 do a ton of damage
lunar pendant
If I had to rank them from worst to best I would say
Worst: Aphrodite
Dyonisus
...
I kinda liked Artemis tho
somber sonnet
i use to speedrun the game so my tier list is hella skewed
subtle plinth
If I had to rank them from worst to best I would say
Worst: Aphrodite
Dyonisus
...
clearly you haven’t used zeus shield with zeus special aspect
i love that build
empty spruce
clearly you haven’t used zeus shield with zeus special aspect
The Sheild is maybe the best weapon in the game
sturdy yarrow
Any rougelike reccomondations
- Balatro
- Peglin
- Wildfrost
- Backpack Hero
- Dicey Dungeons
- Slay the Spire
empty spruce
Slay the spire looks really unique
empty spruce
but what is backpack hero
I never heard of that one
oh so it looks like a rougelike x citybuilder
sturdy yarrow
the city builder part is honestly a pretty small component
it's mostly the inventory management stuff
empty spruce
the rougelikes that I played
Hades, Skul, Dead Cells, a bit of Binding of Issac Repentance, and Ember Knight
somber sonnet
if you are interested in the city building aspect id look at against the storm
somber sonnet
if you tell me what kind of gameplay you want i can make more recommends. ive played a crap load in the genre
empty spruce
I mean rougelikes are one of my favorite genres after all
empty spruce
if you tell me what kind of gameplay you want i can make more recommends. ive pl...
more action and movement heavy. either top down or platoformer rougeliks
but I have played Darkest Dungeon; which is fun
somber sonnet
how about build variety and maps
empty spruce
???
somber sonnet
and build synergy
empty spruce
I try to have builds that go with each ohter
where the items make sense
however they are rougelikes
lets face it.
even if you build the most optimal build you can; you will still die 500+ times
somber sonnet
yea but i mean some rogue lites dont have crazy builds. for example the main draw of isaac is finding a build that breaks the game. but a game like have a nice death the builds are less interesting but they put a heavy focus in combat feeling really good
empty spruce
I played a bit of this one a while back, that has some interesting gameplay called Curse of The Dead Gods
somber sonnet
then you have true rogue likes which is a rare genre and ive only played one of those games
empty spruce
it is top down at a similar camera angle to hades, but the gameplay and weapons are pretty different'
rain breach
then you have true rogue likes which is a rare genre and ive only played one of ...
im not sure i play any of those
smth funny i realized recently is that getting over it with bennett foddy is ALMOST a roguelike of sorts
somebody needs to make a game like that except its randomly generated and it resets when you fall
mosa lina kinda works that way
somber sonnet
I played a bit of this one a while back, that has some interesting gameplay call...
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2071280/Ravenswatch/ so this is from the same devs of curse of the dead gods but the game is in early access
empty spruce
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2071280/Ravenswatch/ so this is from the same...
I have this one
but I have not played too much of it
I like that Ravenswatch has a fairy tale theming to it\
there is a fucking lycanthrope Little Red Riding Hood
that you can play as
Also if you don't mind loud as hell rougelikes there is also Synthetik Ultimate
the enemies in synthetik do a lot of damage
and you can get the enemies to hit other enemies with smart movement
it is also 2 pplayer
2 player maximum(you can play alone)
Just prepare for an akward reload sequience
the reload is that there is this meter with a mark, and if you hit the mark you reload faster
somber sonnet
im trying to find the other one with cool combat but the name is not coming to me
i give up i cant find it guess i didnt follow it after playing the demo
jolly estuary
Any rougelike reccomondations
try otxo
game goes so hard
you can also try skul the hero slayer if you havent
somber sonnet
lol its literally coop hades
like copy my homework but i dont care if you change it enough that the teacher cant tell
somber sonnet
im dumb i was trying to find that one game that was similar to hades but different and it was on my wishlist and i guess i scrolled past it
has a demo
it was interesting cuz you have a minion that fights with you and you give it different elements and it makes the dog or cat thing change
somber sonnet
true sedge
lucid epoch
i have never played poker and have no idea how it works, how much will i have to learn in order to play balatro properly
somber sonnet
almost 0
lucid epoch
how so
somber sonnet
you only need to learn the most basic hands and no other rules
they might even have a cheat sheet you can view on what are poker hands
sturdy yarrow
they do
summer oasis
i have never played poker and have no idea how it works, how much will i have to...
Literally 0.
The game has a helpful info thing that tells you how much each hand scores.
It's really about jokers more than the specific hands.
I can jump into VC and walk you through a run if you want.
lucid epoch
and jokers are game specific mechanics?
summer oasis
It's kinda fun.
lucid epoch
sure i gotta get the game first
summer oasis
Yeah, jokers basically modify scoring.
Let me know if you get it today. I am not playing anything and would rather watch other ppl play.
Or if you want, I can play Balatro and you can watch.
lucid epoch
oh it's cheap
summer oasis
Hella cheap
oh wow
It is only 8 dollars lol
Thought it was like 15
That game is a steal
summer oasis
You can sell that joker
summer oasis
<@205919075753263104> bruh
lol kinda
you shoudl have more jokers at that point though
lucid epoch
You can sell that joker
oh
summer oasis
Yeah, that's the way to bypass that. That joker isn't doing anything for you anywya.
But 22k is a pretty big score with just one joker.
lucid epoch
got one lucky run, seems like you can't check previous runs?
summer oasis
got one lucky run, seems like you can't check previous runs?
Unfortunately, you cannot look at previous runs. You still confused?
lucid epoch
Unfortunately, you cannot look at previous runs. You still confused?
Very
Like I said I just got lucky
summer oasis
So, one thing I am noticing is that the baseball card joker positioing. Jokers trigger from left to right. So you want +mult jokers first and xmult jokers towards the end.
lucid epoch
Ohh
summer oasis
Do you see the diff between x mult and + mult?
lucid epoch
Nah could you go into that
summer oasis
So +mult jokers are your linear scaling jokers. For e.g, ride the bus gains +1 for each hand played without a scoring face card. It scales linearly based on the number of hands.
Ramen is an xMult joker that gives you a flat x2 mult but loses potency as you discard. So, if you say have...+50 mult from other jokers. Ramen will do 50x2 and double it. So, you want Ramen to be placed as far right as possible so that it acts after you get all the mults from the other jokers.
lucid epoch
Ahh
summer oasis
In general, if you have a decent chip joker, scaling +mult and a flat xmult, you should be able to win.
In your run, you didn't have a scaling +mult, but you had the joker that gave you more hands, so it kinda acted like scaling.
Also, the legendary joker that let you scale 2 pair also helped.
It's actually a decent setup.
lucid epoch
Any general jokers to look for then that fit those criteria?
And what should I prioritize spending money on early game?
summer oasis
So early game, unless you run into an exceptional scaling joker (which is most of them tbh), you should focus on getting some simple flat mult jokers. So, stuff that gives you suit specific flat mults, banana (which is flat +15 with a downside), jokers that gives you mult for playing easy hands like pair/two pairs/flushes.
The main point of these jokers is to you kinda tide you over to ante 3/4 and build an economy. They won't win you the game, but that we will let you survive and give you time to find the good jokers.
As far scaling jokers, you will run into quite a few of them. Most of them are actually quite solid. The challenge is really surviving until a) you find them and b) managing blinds such that you actually scale them.
Yeah, so the general strategy is a) get a cheap scoring joker early on b) build economy c) search for a scaling +chip/+mult jokers d) search for xmult jokers and e) scale them
You want to get to 25$ as quickly as possible in general because that is the interest cap.
25$ = 5$ in interest every blind = roughly the cost of a joker/pack.
ofc, building economy takes a backseat if you run into a good joker early on.
scaling takes different forms though. So, it could be that you are scaling by buying planet cards or you have a joker that upgrades specific hands when certain conditions are met. You can scale via consumables and modifying cards in the deck. You can also scale via negative jokers by increasing the number of jokers you can support.
You can scale via vouchers by increasing number of hands/hand size/discards.
You have utility jokers that let you play certain hands easier. You also have tarot cards that lets you change suits/ranks permenantly. So that lets you scale by making harder to play hands easier to find.
lucid epoch
Is there a type of scaling that is more consistent than others, or just focus on surviving earlier antes?
Also the fact that this game isn't on mobile is a sin
summer oasis
He is working on a port.
Most scaling will be for mult. Mult is more efficient because you can get scaling +mult and scale that with your xmult jokers. There are scaling +chip jokers, but no x chip equivalent.
lucid epoch
My current one is slay the spire for being on trains
Left to right order is least plus to most x right
summer oasis
yep
multiplication is commutative, so it doesn's matter how you order the xmult jokers.
Addition is also commutative. It only matters that you have +mult before xmult.
Also ante 1 blind strategy is to a) one shot the first blind with a high straight (i.e straight with A/K/Q as the first card) b) high chip value flush (lots of high card/face cards) or c) a full house with at least one of the cards being a face card.
ante 1 big blind is similar, but you want to two shot it if you don't have a joker.
For the boss blind, it is better ot have a joker. But if you don't, you can beat it with like 2 flushes and a decent 2 pair.
You don't necessarily have to do it that way, but it is ideal if you can.
As that gives you the most economy..
lucid epoch
That's good to know, optiming towards that will be a goal
summer oasis
ey yo @lucid epoch How goes Balatro gaming?
lucid epoch
i'll hop in vc onec i'm done ye
lucid epoch
@summer oasis what order should i put retriggers? at the end?
summer oasis
It should be to the left xmult jokers.
It's a +mult joker if the cards have mult modifiers on them
sturdy yarrow
I think Retrigger order doesn't actually matter but yeah, probably just put it on the left
thick lark
Ravenswatch seems interesting
lucid epoch
Ravenswatch seems interesting
oh yeah same developers as curse of dead gods, great roguelite
i tried early access for it, wasn't my thing
thick lark
I'll keep it in mind
lucid epoch
if you like darkest dungeon you might like it
true sedge
theres still no date for risk of rain update
torpid ruin
Soon
thick lark
™️
true sedge
soon since november
summer oasis
https://www.ign.com/articles/slay-the-spire-2-officially-announced-first-gamepla...
Woah.
somber sonnet
lol they announced contra dlc for vampire survivors
you ready for mroe hours in that lys?
@summer oasis
summer oasis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYVI8dmSNbY
oh great, the mosquitos are back.
I really can't tell what the game mode is tbh.
somber sonnet
It's free so easy enough to find out eh
lucid epoch
woo
summer oasis
Another fun roguelike
First win
Wildfrost is the name. More of a tactical game than a deckbuilder. But really good.
lucid epoch
Wildfrost is the name. More of a tactical game than a deckbuilder. But really go...
i hear good things about it
lucid epoch
Polychrome dual stencils!?!!!
yeah freeest win i've gotten
summer oasis
i hear good things about it
I think more than any other deckbuilder I have played, wildfrost tested my focus more than anything. You don't have to be a deckbuilding god, but you better be good at unwinding interactions and figuring out what's gonna happen on the field.
somber sonnet
i low key wanna get a 100% in a rogue lite
rain breach
i finished the ror2 100% not too long ago, it wasnt that difficult imo
true sedge
dead cells, the only problem is that the 100% is locked by dlcs
somber sonnet
dead cells is interesting but terrible when you quit then come back. i left when i was on boss cell 2 and came back for the castlevania update and after like 6+ hours i still couldnt get like half way through the game
def not like riding your bike
sturdy yarrow
Dicey Dungeons? I think you just have to win each challenge once
oh wait no, there is an achievement system...
true sedge
what rogue lites do you have first and foremost
somber sonnet
on a scale of 1-10 how silly is it to attempt to 100% noita? a 10 being necrodancer where less than 20 people have 100
somber sonnet
what rogue lites do you have first and foremost
theres only a handful i dont own
and most of them are deck builders
somber sonnet
oh spelunky 1 or 2 could be fun
somber sonnet
Twitter
sudden siren
Ope
somber sonnet
subtle plinth
ngl i kinda of want to try it but i also really liked playing Hades 1 as a complete game
I'm sure i'll enjoy it when 2 fully releases but im not sure i'll enjoy it as much.
lucid epoch
somber sonnet
i just wanted to see what they were cooking to make it different
i like what i see now i wait till full release
summer oasis
Watching other ppl play Hades 2, I have to say that the enemy design is a bit more engaging than the original.
I found enemy design in Hades 1 to be a yawnfest. Especially the popcorn stuff.
...and good voice acting on the main character. Maybe I will like this more.
rain breach
Watching other ppl play Hades 2, I have to say that the enemy design is a bit mo...
oh i did not like the enemy design in hades 1 so hopefully i like it here too
somber sonnet
I found enemy design in Hades 1 to be a yawnfest. Especially the popcorn stuff.
i enjoyed the story enough it pulled me through the enemies and levels then when i was done with the story i found speedrunning and that was so much fun
rain breach
i got into hades 2 playtest
somber sonnet
Twitter
summer oasis
Busted setup. Looks like you got the hang of the game now.
lucid epoch
Busted setup. Looks like you got the hang of the game now.
Honestly not really
I still think most of my wins are due to luck
I feel like I can't meaningfully influence the game
Or am playing strategies that don't work consistently
Or not having good goals throughout early game
Like I'm not able to save a run if I don't get good jokers early on
summer oasis
Early game is very hard. The new patch helped a lil bit, but it is a bit random early on.
If you don't get a decent scoring joker, it is hard to play past ante 1.
What deck are you playing?
Black deck is the hardest. Minus 1 hand is a huge debuff on your econ.
lucid epoch
I just been playing the main
summer oasis
Mid stakes should be a bit more consistebt.
somber sonnet
empty spruce
Random Story: I was playing Ember knights last night(It is a pixelated art style top down perspective rougelike that can be played with a max of four players) and I have to say, fuck the phantom, fuck that boss with a side of rice.
look up the boss if you want to see why it is annoying in my opinion.
lucid epoch
@summer oasis can you play five of a kinds with stone cards? or would it not count?
summer oasis
Don't think you can...ppl were complaiing about it iirc.
somber sonnet
summer oasis
Rough life.
summer oasis
They really knocked it out of the park with this bit of buffonery.
The lyrics is unrivalled pettiness.
somber sonnet
i need the 1.0 release
true sedge
i need to finish the first one
somber sonnet
people already posting meta build videos for hades 2
somber sonnet
sudden siren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQFEcBIf8z0&ab_channel=SupergiantGames
Banger
somber sonnet
vampire survivors got the gun update today @lucid epoch
lucid epoch
Oh fuck copping as soon as I can
lucid epoch
sudden siren
thats cool
rain breach
can you not send spoilers for hades 2 untagged
sudden siren
Oh mb
rain breach
ive already seen it cause it was on my youtube recommended but like
still a spoiler for other people
i wish youtubers would just not put spoilers in titles/thumbnails anymore
sudden siren
Oh yeah that’s basically what led me to start reading manga
summer oasis
So far, very impressed with Hades 2 bosses.
Also, dash -> sprint is really good design. Dash is good for evading an initial attack, but the sprint is excellent against sustained offense. There are attacks that carpet bomb the entire area in some order and you need sprint to manage them.
empty spruce
I am impressed with Hades 2, but the first boss is probably the easiest boss I fought in a rougelike. I only died because I was already on low health going into the boss. I got her down to low health on my first try.
She is atleast as easy as Tisiphone from the first game, and Tisiphone is the easiest of the fury sisters.
summer oasis
I managed to get a clear on ||both routes|| yesterday.
sudden siren
She is atleast as easy as Tisiphone from the first game, and Tisiphone is the ea...
That’s the murder one right?
summer oasis
I am impressed with Hades 2, but the first boss is probably the easiest boss I f...
||Hecate will probably get more complex as we progress in the difficulty. She has more moves than Meg, but it's really easy to avoid all of it.||
rain breach
||Hecate will probably get more complex as we progress in the difficulty. She ha...
you probably wanna spoiler tag that??? idk if shes in any trailers or anything
summer oasis
I assumed that everyone here saw the technical test. But sure, I will spoiler tag it.
It makes it pretty tricky to have a discussion tbh.
rain breach
well you never know
rain breach
It makes it pretty tricky to have a discussion tbh.
just use spoiler tags its not that tricky
and you can say stuff like "spoilers for the first boss"
summer oasis
It's a weird trend tbh.
rain breach
trend?
why is it weird that people dont want to be spoiled on a game that just came out
empty spruce
I have no clue
summer oasis
It's not weird to not want to be spoiled. But it is weird to outsource the onus of that spoiler protection in all contexts to the people who have already had the experience.
rain breach
i do not know what onus means
summer oasis
Responsibility.
rain breach
well duh
empty spruce
then shouldn’t it be “ons” and not “onus”
rain breach
the people saying the spoilers should be responsible for not spoiling people
cause you really cant help it if you happen to see something you didnt want to
summer oasis
Ok. There are multiple layers to this discussion.
summer oasis
First, spoilers is not a property of the content, but a function of whether or not you have expereinced it. Almost anything can be quantified as a spoiler. If I have not seen a movie that came out in 1992 and I ran into a discussion on it, then I am being spoiled on it. The ppl who are having that discussion don't have a responsibility to protect me from it as well, the movie came out in 1992.
It is a bit more fuzzy when it comes to recently released stuff.
empty spruce
but I will say this about Hades 2, I like Melinoë as much as Zagreus.
empty spruce
but I like them for different reasons
somber sonnet
spoiler discussions is interesting. my take is i do not believe in amount of time pass its ok to just spoil people cuz "if you wanted to see it youd already have seen it". but if something has been out for years and you tune into a stream and they are discussing it. thats on you to recognize that its being talked about and leaving, cant get upset when 2 people are talking about it and you walk in. now saying oh im going to watch that movie then person b says oh youll love it cuz of then proceeds to talk about the twist. person b is an asshole. for hades im trying to stay spoiler free but anything that gets talked about that would be in a reasonable review as praise for the game im not going to get upset about
summer oasis
spoiler discussions is interesting. my take is i do not believe in amount of tim...
Yeah, I agree with that take. I think my main issue is people not acknowledging that spoiler tags are a courtesy that is extended to them. It is not someone's responsibility to protect them from spoilers and when they do spoiler tags, they are going out of their way (in a very small minor fashion) in order to protect your experience. I have a responsibility to pay my fricking bills. I don't have a responsbility to protect someone from spoilers.
rain breach
dude its four extra characters
summer oasis
It's not about the effort. It's about the expectation.
empty spruce
dude, it is 4 extra characters; and on mobile it is a button.
God forbid people don’t want to be spoiled on a game that came out around a week or 2 ago, and yes pun intended.
Also speaking of God, did they buff Aphrodite in this game?
I remember she was the weakest god in the original Hades
You know what top 3 weakest gods from the original Hades.
Weakest: Aphrodite. The best thing about her over the other gods is her cast, other than that Weakness has to be the worst status aliment you can inflict. Worst call in the original game.
2nd: Dionysus: Worse version of Ares. Mediocre cast.
3rd: Zeus. Ok cast, but the chain attack effect is not as useful as it seems.
somber sonnet
as someone who speedran the game this list is wild
empty spruce
I am not a speedrunner so
I am assuming Zeus caught your eye.
because of his Chain attack
and the lightning strikes
somber sonnet
aphro on the casting bow was so stupidly strong, best build for the bow and you pair it with dio. there was another bow build that didnt use the cast one but was harder to get off the ground though i think if the stars aligned it was better. i could understand zeus cuz he was really only used for chain on the gun then you can get some nice synergy with pos. if i had to pick weak ones it would be hermes and artimis
empty spruce
That is a dual boon isn’t it?
somber sonnet
which one?
empty spruce
Oh nevermind
I was thinking of Artemis and Aphrodite. Not the weapon
my b
I know artemis uses arrows for some of her boons, so that is my bad
I know what bow you are talking about
where you can store the cast uses to power up your nex basic attack
somber sonnet
athena was also super underwhelming for people who can play the game and is only good for beginners who are taking hits. but her with ares on fist weapons was such a insanely fast clear build
empty spruce
Her reflection can help her do a lot of damage against enemies with a lot of progecticles
and her Call is better than Aphrodite IMO.
She is not the best god, and her cast is lowkey kind of underwhelming. but she is better on most weapons IMO that Aphrodite.
somber sonnet
if you are talking about overall usefulness then you are prob right. i was just thinking optimal builds for each weapon
but theres some weapons that are just melee focused or cast focused and not a lot of gods have overlap between those
empty spruce
Best gods in the original
Best: Artemis. Rliable. Many of the best buids have atleast one artemis boon from what I seen. Extra crit chance. Not the best call though.
Second: Maybe a bit controversial, but Ares. More damage; and the best call in the game, but you have to split your attention. not always the best.
3rd: Chaos. Just a general buff, and the downside is typically worth it to get either more damage, or an extra cast. Becomes worse in the late game though.
I will say this about Ares though. His blade rift cast moves so slowly to where it is either a blessing or a curse.
rain breach
i think demeter has the best cast in the game
empty spruce
Demeter’s cast is good.
not the best IMO because of some consistency issues, but it is one of the best against bosses.
Lernie especially gets melted.
Demeter has the best dash imo though.
rain breach
dont remember it
empty spruce
you know what ranking the gods in the og hades from weakest to strongest.
Weakest: Aphrodite
Dionysus
Zeus
Athena
Poseidon
Hermes
Demeter
Chaos
Ares
Best: Artemis
empty spruce
dont remember it
It creates a gust trail that applies the slow down effect to enemies.
empty spruce
I love how well Hades 2 controls
and changing keybinds is not as restrictive in other games.
(like some games make it so that you can’t set your alt key to do anything)
I perfer to use wierd keybinds when playing most games because of thumb positioning and overall comfort personally. so I see this as a win.
*Thumb positioning being similar to that of a normal controller which I am very used to
before you ask. it is UHJK
I perfer my thumb being around multiple buttons in a circle instead of having to pull my thumb down to dash and up to hit my x and c keys.
Alt is my cast, comma is my hex, my basic and special attack stays the same as default, spacebar is my dash, and B is to interact.
empty spruce
The scond boss of Hades 2 is sick as hell
somber sonnet
what im told the EA of hades 2 is like, full comic by doctorloops
rain breach
well thats what the beta test was like
empty spruce
I wish you started off with more mana in Hades 2 without needing the keepsake that restores mana overtime
Mainly due to the Gifts of The Moon.
because without that it is RNG if you can use the Hex you get even if it only costs 200 mana before you can use it.
somber sonnet
lol the prince of persia rogue lite was suppose to launch early may but when hades 2 dropped they didnt want to be anywhere near it so its been delayed till the end of may
lucid epoch
Another victim
summer oasis
Welcome to high stakes balatro
sturdy yarrow
Anyone experienced with Dicey Dungeons?
I thought I'd try to get into it, but I'm stuck on the Uptick challenge
somber sonnet
somber sonnet
lucid epoch
oh ok
somber sonnet
thick lark
Think I gotta do a run with just the Luminaire, because I couldn't see shit by the end of this run
lucid epoch
bruh
lucid epoch
@hazy shoal
summer oasis
@lucid epoch If you are done with Balatro, I also recommend wildfrost.
Very good tactical card based roguelike.
Rlly hard too.
lucid epoch
<@706980182426124318> If you are done with Balatro, I also recommend wildfrost.
thanks, i've seen it around, looks interesting
i think i might go for completionist first
lucid epoch
on gold stake i think
lucid epoch
yeah lol
sturdy yarrow
there's an achievement for gold stake with every deck and another achievement for gold stake with every Joker
thick lark
It's reddit, there's no way those three paragraphs aren't serious
lucid epoch
Surely they're pulling a peter explains the joke
thick lark
I guarantee you they are 100% serious, I've never seen such a detailed breakdown of a meme in my life there is no way it's a joke
sturdy yarrow
(FWIW I did not recognize that it was LeBron James)
rain breach
i knew it was lebron james but with a combination of not knowing balatro at all and also just generally being a bit slow, i did not understand it
lucid epoch
Another victim obtained an addiction
thick lark
Lmao
lucid epoch
Idk shit about blackjack
rain breach
basically you just gamble on whether you'll get a low or high card
its peak
anyways i came here mostly to say that vagante is peak roguelike
and just saw gambling so i had to talk about it
thick lark
the only gambling game i know
So real
somber sonnet
I hear gearboxes first expansion with risk of rain completely screwed to pooch
rain breach
second i thnk
somber sonnet
Besides the physics engine tied with fps what else happened
thick lark
Xbox players can either not launch the game if they own the DLC, or it deletes all their save data playing split screen
summer oasis
@lucid epoch Pyrene. Good roguelite alert!!
lucid epoch
gotcha remind me in a month when my bloons addiction is done
somber sonnet
theres a rogue like mod for link to the past that i might try
summer oasis
Ok. I played Pyrene for a bit. Very good roguelike. I would compare it to wildfrost with similar focus on tactics and path planning.
rain breach
you guys are gonna kill me but i just bought and refunded balatro within a day
i want to give it more time but i know if i give it more time then i wont have time to refund anymore
and i just wasnt having fun
despite winning a run, which i usually would have fun doing in a game
somber sonnet
summer oasis
Not a roguelike,but kill knight is very enjoyable.
@somber sonnet Feels like a housemarque game mechanically.
somber sonnet
yea its been on my watch list
summer oasis
@lucid epoch Diceomancer. Great roguelite alert!!
sudden siren
The new hades update ost has me wanting to buy it
somber sonnet
fierce ferryBOT
https://x.com/BalatroGame/status/1849496137918718445
somber sonnet
@summer oasis
subtle plinth
@lucid epoch how are you enjoying 20 minutes till dawn?
lucid epoch
<@706980182426124318> how are you enjoying 20 minutes till dawn?
did 2 runs, was fun, kinda overwhelmed with options rn, progressing is a bit front loaded i feel like
subtle plinth
yeah you basically have every upgrade path unlocked at the start. unlocking the characters and weapon types is where the diversity of runs starts to emerge
lucid epoch
yeah you basically have every upgrade path unlocked at the start. unlocking the ...
how'd u know i was playing it?
subtle plinth
how'd u know i was playing it?
i was looking through my library, checked 20MTD and it had you listed with some early achievements
lucky enough to check the day you got it
lucid epoch
https://vxtwitter.com/nikkonikkoltd/status/1853499610226114763?s=46
just tried it, a lil bare bones for me rn
lucid epoch
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2501600/DICEOMANCER/
very fun deckbuilder, it's like slay the spire except there's cards that modify values of whatever number is on screen that you get to pick, leads to a lot of creativity
summer oasis
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2501600/DICEOMANCER/
very fun deckbuilder, i...
It's really fun. I beat the game a few times with all classes.
Not as hard as spire, but very fun.
summer oasis
Smaller dice >>>> large dice.
Rolling down damage, health bars, trigger conditions is pretty versatile than rolling up on card numbers in my experience.
Not to mention rolling down prices
lucid epoch
i love that
summer oasis
Did u beat the game?
lucid epoch
too much rn but i wanna be a sponge and take it in
summer oasis
I haven't used it much, but from past experience. It rolls a die and replaces a number with the rolled number.
I thought it would essentially replace it with a die, but I don't think that's what it does.
lucid epoch
@willow monolith My ads are getting very targeted
willow monolith
big card game is looking for you
humble linden
It's so over
Man
thick lark
We gotta do another Buckshot session sometime though fr fr
willow monolith
@lucid epoch new elden ring looking to be a rougelike
obsidian plank
Enter the Gungeon, anyone?
somber sonnet
played a lot of it, dont much like it
rain breach
Enter the Gungeon, anyone?
played a lot of it, dont like it
way too easy for me
most of it is too easy*
obsidian plank
It's easy, sure, but it's got a nice gameplay loop; fill the Ammonomicon, fight every boss, etc.
Resourceful Rat, for instance.
rain breach
ive never beaten chamber 6 so the game is pretty boring basically just slogging through all the levels just to get there all the way at the end
i would get the shortcut but shortcuts are annoying to unlock too
obsidian plank
Bullet Hell is annoying.
rain breach
also i reset my save at some point so i need to unlock everything again
i think ive already beaten multiple pasts
and unlocked robot
its a rare day when i actually play etg tho
obsidian plank
Same here. I do love the game a hell of a lot, but I've mostly just been playing Strive and Monster Hunter World. Is what it is, I s'pose.
summer oasis
@lucid epoch Not a roguelike. But have you played rain world?
somber sonnet
@summer oasis a rogue lite where you play as a robot where you need to find robot parts to build your robot. i unno why but this sounds familiar 🤔
lucid epoch
<@706980182426124318> Not a roguelike. But have you played rain world?
nah seen a lot of video essays on it tho
seems like a very dynamic experience
somber sonnet
lucid epoch
that's sick
summer oasis
Slaying of the spire huh?
willow monolith
Is the board game fun?
lucid epoch
apparently cdawg came over to prozd's house and played the board game first, loved it, and got the game because of it
rain breach
that is a crazy combination of people
sturdy yarrow
I've been getting back into Slice & Dice lately
lucid epoch
that is a crazy combination of people
and then he got his whole friend circle including the anime people and ludwig people into it
sturdy yarrow
Is ProZD's circle not anime people? He's literally a professional voice actor
rain breach
i think lys means vtubers
sturdy yarrow
oh
rain breach
i dont like the idea of vtubers being into slay the spire even if it is a board game
lucid epoch
yeah more so the animeman/gigguk/chris crowd
rain breach
oh the weird crowd
lucid epoch
sturdy yarrow
fierce ferryBOT
https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/comments/1hlndv6/balatro_yuri_blueprint_x_brain...
subtle plinth
You’ll never guess what happened
lucid epoch
You’ll never guess what happened
Wassup
subtle plinth
Wassup
i got balatro
i’m gonna play it either later tonight or tomorrow
time to see for myself if it’s peak
lucid epoch
ai ping me when u do
silver peak
Y'all ever play into the breach?
lucid epoch
i hear good things about it
subtle plinth
Y'all ever play into the breach?
that is also in my backlog
i have so many rpgs to play man
silver peak
Oh God good luck lol
Are any of the RPGs like Fire emblem/FF tactics?
If so you might wanna try breach in-between that and another rpg
It's like lil baby fire emblem, generally small maps, most* enemies have like, 5 HP max , and the battles last like 5 turns
subtle plinth
Are any of the RPGs like Fire emblem/FF tactics?
The ones in the backlog? no. but I have played plenty of fire emblem and I played triangle strategy which is closer to ff tactics
silver peak
Yeah intk the breach is like abridged FE/FFtactics
Considering how bad I am at breach I'm terrified of how I'd fuck up in FE lol
subtle plinth
fierce ferryBOT
https://x.com/prozd/status/1872582323457376692?s=46
subtle plinth
fierce ferryBOT
https://x.com/prozd/status/1872665321758466224?s=46
somber sonnet
eh its just board game night. one more post if we win act 3 on monday
subtle plinth
eh its just board game night. one more post if we win act 3 on monday
do you have cards for act 4, or does the physical game only go up to act 3
somber sonnet
there is an act 4 but you need to collect 3 keys to unlock it
somber sonnet
i keep seeing caves of qud everywhere. wanna try it but who has the time
subtle plinth
its a cool game, but i got filtered by the tutorial
it's true, i saw it live
subtle plinth
Shoutouts to shortcut, it hard carried me
i also had lvl 11 straights/saturn and these vouchers;
sturdy yarrow
Do you suppose Darkest-Dungeon-likes are populated enough to be a proper roguelike-subgenre now? Turn-based dungeon crawlers with 4 party members that each have position-dependent abilities, with some element of base development mechanics.
rain breach
i cant even think of one, other than darkest dungeon itself
obsidian plank
I guess Vanguard Monsters (a tiny roguelite on itch) might fit given that description? IDK though, I've never played Darkest Dungeon.
rain breach
i just helped my cousin get to ante 12 in balatro
though really i think it was mostly triboulet that helped him
sturdy yarrow
i cant even think of one, other than darkest dungeon itself
I've seen two: "Circus Electrique" and "Vambrace: Cold Soul"
jolly estuary
i keep seeing caves of qud everywhere. wanna try it but who has the time
huge big thumbs up from me bro the game is so good oh my lord
try it fr
summer oasis
@willow monolith @lucid epoch any bazaar takes?
lucid epoch
seems like exactly a game i'd get addicted to
lucid epoch
i don't think they made any announcements
should've been last month but they delayed it
looks like it's delayed again
lucid epoch
the dooley hate is so good
somber sonnet
summer oasis
@lucid epoch Vanessa too hard.
lucid epoch
<@706980182426124318> Vanessa too hard.
damn did u want me to hop on
somber sonnet
which game you guys playing now
somber sonnet
i thought that was a tcg, is it not?
lucid epoch
nope
SAP meets backpack heroes meets hearthstone
i think
idk i haven't played any of those games lol
but it's so addicting
somber sonnet
sap, super auto pets?
lucid epoch
yeah
summer oasis
damn did u want me to hop on
Nah, done for the day.
Should be around tomorrow.
Her spam aquatics route seem like a bad dooley setup and her crit route feels very inflexible.
lucid epoch
crit is very vague wdu mean
lucid epoch
huh
lucid epoch
another one
lucid epoch
@summer oasis runs?
lucid epoch
lucid epoch
my ranked record is pretty consistent
lucid epoch
lucid epoch
in ranked
summer oasis
You been on a spree huh
subtle plinth
Finally did a successful run with green deck, getting heiroglyph really saved by allowing me to get better jokers.
subtle plinth
i had upgraded two pairs/full house, so i went for those hands
I almost skipped every blind and bought every booster to rack up mult
The jokers being foil compensated for the lack of planet boosters/enhanced cards.
lucid epoch
@hot dune been really liking iceberg as a method to shut down most infinites now
somber sonnet
first chill and glacier, now iceberg. i think you have a type
hot dune
<@257016008710029314> been really liking iceberg as a method to shut down most i...
yep, been teching in fort, iceberg and chronobarrier to destroy other infinites. Also been looking or rerolling skill shops so i can get rapid thaw and beat theirs
lucid epoch
i know for rank climbers most people just get 7/8 wins then concede cuz most infinites are online at that point
hot dune
ranking in legend/top 1000 is stupid. even if you 10 win, you can regress ranking if you did it on a later day like day 14+
i just play just to unlock as much chests as possible tho, might as well go all the way
but it does suck being hardstuck 600-700 lol
lucid epoch
@summer oasis vanessa aquatics are back
somber sonnet
fierce ferryBOT
https://x.com/_Moink_/status/1878453182080163928
lucid epoch
i was like this at first with balatro
but the feeling was way more prominent when i first started the bazaar
hot dune
Everything charging each other is a bit stupid lmao
two matchboxes and two slow items from other classes is the biggest high roll
lucid epoch
Everything charging each other is a bit stupid lmao
lmao that dooley item
proboscis build 👀
found them very consistent on vanessa
and dooley
makes sense that it works on pyg too
works on any char honestly if you get righty tighty on a charge one
somber sonnet
sts is ass
lucid epoch
"you need turtleshell"
turtleshell at home
lucid epoch
Lmao "don't u dare proc my other shit"
lucid epoch
How did we even get here
Can't tell what's stupider now, yoyos, matchbox, bushel, or fort
like what the fuck are these numbers
hot dune
like what the fuck are these numbers
seaweed shield scaling with the healing is so nuts lmao
lucid epoch
seaweed shield scaling with the healing is so nuts lmao
Yo yo numbers tho...
One triggers a lot more often
hot dune
Yo yo numbers tho...
fr idk why they made the healing = to dmg f or the enchant, its literally better lifesteal
somber sonnet
fierce ferryBOT
https://x.com/Wartorn_Game/status/1879560679109349463
subtle plinth
almost beat black deck, unfortunately didn't have something to deal with the lowered played hands.
hot dune
almost beat black deck, unfortunately didn't have something to deal with the low...
could you not get enough for even luchador?
o wait nvm i was thinking it was the joker that u just need 25% to win
subtle plinth
could you not get enough for even luchador?
No, i had enough chips but i didn’t have enough mult
hiker allowed chips to scale, but i didn’t have anything that allowed mult to scale
hot dune
hiker allowed chips to scale, but i didn’t have anything that allowed mult to sc...
thats why i hate straight builds, i always feel like a joker slot needs to go to the joker that allows gaps or allows 4 instead of another xMult joker
lucid epoch
this is about to go stupid
subtle plinth
thats why i hate straight builds, i always feel like a joker slot needs to go to...
True, but i passed on some mult scaling jokers so the faults on me
there was one that’s was “get more mult for not using face cards” which sucks bc i was using them often
lucid epoch
0-20 you say
hot dune
0-20 you say
i still havent gotten this glitch lmao
but i do notice getting the max amt of the crypto which never happened in the last patch, usually just 1 below the max
lucid epoch
It's more consistent with the higher tier ones
hot dune
wait is that a glitch? golden enchant on it doubles value
so it looks fine to me if it got 20 x 2
hot dune
damn
hot dune
honestly tesla coil does nothing, id prob get rid of of dmg ray for first aiden or first aiden + uzi instead of tesla
lucid epoch
tesla coil is there for charge procs
lucid epoch
that's why i'm trynna figure out placement lol
wondering if there's a way for it to pop to make core go to make charging station go
i'll try the first aiden for now but lmk if you think of anything
hot dune
idk i think its too greedy to keep both lol
hot dune
but if it can work tho
tbh i think getting rid of station is best bet, it takes up two slots that would be charging core and tesla coil and buffing combat core
lucid epoch
interesting
hot dune
or just get rid of tesla and just slot first aiden + pulse rifle till you find another small item to use so uzi + aiden + small
lucid epoch
or just get rid of tesla and just slot first aiden + pulse rifle till you find a...
worked out. barely any skills
summer oasis
How you liking the game so far?
lucid epoch
as fun as the first day i played it
i can't stop man
one more run syndrome is real
summer oasis
I am so sorry this happened to you. I have to play too, but having a lot of fun with darkest dungeon 1 and pizza tower
somber sonnet
i thought you finished DD, or was that just DD2?
lucid epoch
I am so sorry this happened to you. I have to play too, but having a lot of fun ...
don't be, you allowed to me have a great time
hot dune
@lucid epoch u try the new patch for bazaar yet? Vanessa and dooley are pretty fun so far
lucid epoch
oh i thought servers were down
hot dune
i think theyre going back down in like 30 mins lmao
but its been out for a couple hrs now
hot dune
anything to note?
if you havent read the patch notes, basically all charge items got nerfed to basically only charge 1 or 2 seconds depending on their CD
a lot of skills were nerfed to only trigger the first x amt of times per fight depending on rarity
companion core only hastes adjacent items now too which sucks but i havent tried a companion core build to see how bad it really is
lucid epoch
first the burn/poison ray but now core too
hot dune
weapon/crit core dooley seems like the best to me now. Armored core got back duct tape shielding on adjacent item use tho and ive seen burn builds work too
lucid epoch
welcome back duct tape
somber sonnet
hot dune
Pufferfish will always be my favorite item
Freeze enchant + Snowflake to increase freeze duration was insane luck too
lucid epoch
freeze puffer jesus
hot dune
Imagine if he had fort to give this shit multicast LMAO
hot dune
i love railgun now
havent gotten to try a railgun build yet, i need to play more dooley but it feels like I play him every patch since hes always the best lmao
lucid epoch
do railgun, battery, cool LEDs, atomic clock, big red button etc
it will kill so fast
hot dune
it will kill so fast
you were right, got 5 hits of a glass cannon + crit enchant diamond railgun without them even doing anything lmao
build was so crazy that I actually managed to beat the lich on day 5
lucid epoch
you were right, got 5 hits of a glass cannon + crit enchant diamond railgun with...
damn u got railgun pre day 5?
oh yeah glass cannon on that is great
hot dune
damn u got railgun pre day 5?
sold like my entire board just to afford it after rolling down on every possible vendor
hot dune
even got the skill that charges a weapon 1 sec the first 8 times you use a non weapon
hot dune
so a diamond battery was basically charging it 7 seconds
hot dune
yea im lucky i only faced this build once lmao, ima be terrified to play ranked when people start abusing this
I thought puffer vanessa was gonna be the best build this patch but all roads lead back to dooley
lucid epoch
good stock
i'm holding
between the different cores he's just versatile
can't kill them all
somber sonnet
anyone here dabble in against the storm?
somber sonnet
fierce ferryBOT
https://x.com/AdmiralBahroo/status/1883572534135906581?t=3zDfSpF7oX2NBmSPdiLQlA&...
somber sonnet
man i wanna like against the storm. why do they overload the player with stuff
lucid epoch
can't tell which run was stronger
hot dune
can't tell which run was stronger
you try companion core/belleista/bill dozer dooley yet?
feels just as good as railgun, it requires all the exact pieces to make it work but once it does its disgusting
easy to pivot into as well since you have good cards like first aiden, monitor lizard, and brick buddy to carry early
lucid epoch
feels just as good as railgun, it requires all the exact pieces to make it work ...
I've been either doing crit or ignition
1 game of armored
I can try companion
hot dune
1 game of armored
i tried the harmadillo ducttape armored but couldnt scale it fast enough
decent for like 7 wins tho in ranked
companion core feels consistent at all stages and can 10 win too, but other cores have the benefit of pivoting into railgun if you find it which is nice
rough lynx
summer oasis
Kingdoms is a good mode from what I can tell. Longer campaign and has that feeling of building up a board. But still very different from DD 1.
Abom is more or less the DD 1 Abom which is good. Abom was thematically very strong and balanced hero in DD1.
lucid epoch
crane gaming
somber sonnet
fierce ferryBOT
https://x.com/DarkestDungeon/status/1885043495187980748
lucid epoch
good fight
lucid epoch
the type of build it takes to beat lich this patch
hot dune
the type of build it takes to beat lich this patch
ive beaten lich 4 times ever, 3 of them was this patch was with railgun lmao
and 2 of them were in the same run on the same day
lucid epoch
it's so rough
hot dune
i really want to do a run with the legendary item from him, never gotten it tho
never seen anyone else use it either
lucid epoch
i got it from him i just couldn't fit it on the board
looking like this rn
2k burn on me is pretty rough
lucid epoch
this is so broken
lucid epoch
🤝
the second i got powdered horn that's all i was looking for
i've never seen a 30 second cooldown item before
lucid epoch
my stupidest drill build
lucid epoch
@hot dune do i build around it
i have a great railgun setup so far
but i could pivot...
hot dune
<@257016008710029314> do i build around it
LMAO, if this was a ranked run i wouldnt
but norms fuck it
rank resetting tmmrw too so honestly just ball
lucid epoch
it is ranked
lucid epoch
rank resetting tmmrw too so honestly just ball
oh is it
just tried it in this setup as that's what i have so far but it's so slow compared to railgun lmao
it is funny tho i'll give it that
hot dune
oh is it
yea patch notes came out today, said they changing how mathcmaking works i think
lucid epoch
how tf was lich killing me with this shit
it's so bad
like i won
but it took a minute
if i had railgun that would've been two shots
hot dune
itd honestly be pretty fire on vanessa lmao
but maybe get some sick ass enchantment or smthing
lucid epoch
itd honestly be pretty fire on vanessa lmao
ohhh yeah
you're so right
all of dooley's good charge stuff is weapons
which don't charge necronomicon
hot dune
might just be 50 gold fodder 😔
hot dune
@lucid epoch played new patch yet?
i wnna know if dooley survived or not cause from what ive read he got hella nerfs lmao
lucid epoch
i wnna know if dooley survived or not cause from what ive read he got hella nerf...
what the fuck is this dude
hot dune
what the fuck is this dude
lmao they need to hotfix that item
i think i only see people doing this build
lucid epoch
wanted poster flex
hot dune
maybe they shouldnt have made it easier to find silver items on early days
railgun dooley still going strong
lucid epoch
Absolutely
Found it the most consistent so far
Also yeah I've been seeing a lot more people use welding torch
hot dune
Also yeah I've been seeing a lot more people use welding torch
really? ive seen a lot less burn and/or drill builds, much less welding torch
somber sonnet
@summer oasis the devs who made returnal just announced their next game
somber sonnet
fierce ferryBOT
https://x.com/dogubomb/status/1889813626976084147
somber sonnet
also an escape room rogue lite
lucid epoch
bonk
somber sonnet
you might have missed the bus. i swear it was the only thing talked about when it released
summer oasis
hot dune
Patch day is tomorrow and I will no longer be able to abuse this stupid ass build
Least the game gave me one last high roll before it all
somber sonnet
fierce ferryBOT
https://x.com/SupergiantGames/status/1892272985962402180
subtle plinth
Finally beat black deck for this time; skipped for the first tag to get a free polychrome joker. it was half-joker, and i ran with the build.
here are the jokers;
managed to clear it by getting glass face cards and using tarots to delete lower rank cards
got ante 11 in endless
hot dune
here are the jokers;
xMult jokers always last!!!111!
subtle plinth
https://gamebanana.com/mods/577961 @ebon dome
silver peak
Ky and dizzy not being king and queen is such a missed opportunity
Unless they are for a different suit or smth
subtle plinth
seeded balator run
can i get an extra spectral pack pls
tidal jewel
can i get an extra spectral pack pls
what
eneded with this
Seed 2K9H9HN
negative triboulet and perkeo are both at second ante first shop packs
subtle plinth
what
i meant the negative spectral consumables in the top right. i’d never seen so many at once
tidal jewel
2blueprints brianstorm and perkeo
willow monolith
Damn
subtle plinth
I'm something of a businessman myself
got the 2 vouchers that increase the interest limit
subtle plinth
got some good luck on the polychromes, and used ectoplasm twice to get the negative jokers.
lucid epoch
@willow monolith @hot dune open beta in a few hours right
willow monolith
<@277595799989518338> <@257016008710029314> open beta in a few hours right
for the bazzar?
lucid epoch
ye
hot dune
that means Mak the potion guy is coming too iirc
pretty hype, something i can spend my gems on finally
lucid epoch
should i open my chests now or does it not matter
hot dune
The chests you get are specific to the season you got them iirc
so it shouldnt matter, technically its worse since you could be getting a lower number
somber sonnet
fierce ferryBOT
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/s/DTNNCbXC0K
somber sonnet
That's funny I didn't know the game was being developed by a mtg cheater
lucid epoch
Lol hate to see it
hot dune
yea ima wait a little bit before touching bazaar again, monetization around the expansion packs and removing free ranked tickets for winning kills my motivation to play a little bit
lucid epoch
Damn am I just lucky or something
Haven't had any connection issues, the monetization doesn't really affect me since it's still the same gameplay loop no matter what and that loop is addicting af
willow monolith
I don't mind the monetization because it doesn't affect me at all
But quiting/disconnecting removing your run progress is really dumn
It also gives you, functionally, infinte ranked tickets
hot dune
I think that mainly happens after a really big patch, the server issues last a couple days but eventually go away
lucid epoch
But quiting/disconnecting removing your run progress is really dumn
It removes your run progress now?
willow monolith
The resume button must be bugged or something
lucid epoch
That's weird, I haven't dc'd since this patch but before it used to just put you at the same node
willow monolith
Because i quit once to attempt to fix a bug(items not spreading out) lost the run, and on all three disconnects it restarts the run
lucid epoch
You didn't accidentally press concede did you
willow monolith
Nope
lucid epoch
Damn that's unlucky