#Slay the Spire

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here we go

sleek jacinth
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# sleek jacinth https://x.com/caseyyano/status/2029770759997116773?s=46

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peak socket
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How's ascension levels this time around? Easier or harder than the first

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condensed down

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so technically harder??

near plinth
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How many act 1 bosses are there? I have seen ||fish, vantom, waterfall giant, the 3 goobers and ceremonial beast||.

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this is such a hard choice

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i know i should take tracking but man fan of knives is so fun

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this is one of the funniest things i've seen

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i understand why the made blade dance exhaust now

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in love with silent in this game

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my babies are back

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earnest tartan
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very very fun run

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got to play Grand Finale alot

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defect run huh

earnest tartan
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"defect" run

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my goat snecko is back

near plinth
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I cannot play IC to save my life. That was like 4 runs on A0 lol

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Energy cheats are pretty strong since there is no straight fwd +1 energy relics. Stampede feels pretty good. Primal force was the main carry. Getting a big hand of attacks and then turning them into rocks feels real good if you have the mana cheats to play them.

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near plinth
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Upgraded, it is 20 damage. It's pretty energy efficient. Plus if you factor in vulnerable, it becomes very efficient. But you do need some other components. I had offering and bag of prep to generate big hands to serve as targets for primal force. Stampedes helped a lot too with managing energy.

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Double stampede was like 40 damage per turn. That's like budget alpha from StS watcher.

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bloodletting being common is a little broken

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ironclad has been my most consistent with near infinites so far with expect a fight

delicate pendant
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Slay the spire 2 is fun

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I wanna try multiplayer

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peak socket
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0 for 4 baby, ima refund this game

delicate pendant
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it's gonna be ruin my run but this is gonna be so fun

peak socket
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0-10 this game is ass

earnest tartan
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not shown was 20 minutes of drawing cards

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LMAO

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that was how i got my first win too

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soul powers

earnest tartan
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Necro feels like the strongest class

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Very good cards

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Summon is also very broken

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i am feeling the opposite

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clad got so much better

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1 cost get 4 energy is not ok

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vicious is better rushdown with taunt

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silent has master planner

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lmk what's been working with you for necro

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but defect is also broken

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man i feel so strong with all the new changes

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for clad the strong options are just watcher

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bash - eruption
vicious - rushdown
forgotten ritual - calm

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near plinth
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Love it when you scale of a single card.

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managed to get all the epochs

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last one was kill 15 bosses with necro

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still have no idea how to play her properly

near plinth
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I just treat her like an ironclad with built in barricade.

peak socket
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so where is the easy mode for this game

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0-20

glass flint
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it's insane how every run i do i keep thinking a certain class is the most broken

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and then i do anotgher run and i'm like wait no this one is

near plinth
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You can either build a deck.

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Or throw 3 shops worth of cards and relics at the boss.

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Act 3 boss relic was "Buy everthing from every shop you encounter for free".

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I was trying to be strategic and avoid shops, but turns out 3 question mark nodes were shops.

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woah they do second rows now instead of that arrow huh

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also grats, that's a first

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but i guess the relics make up for it

near plinth
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Yes. Also when you add so many cards, it evens out. In the sense that you also get enough draw to counteract the deck size growth. You also inevitably end up with some synergies. The strategy is either to avoid all shops or hit everything to kinda get a giant mess.

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Also, it's not just relics. It buys all the potions and gives you a free removal.

peak socket
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reason i went with it is cuz i was on silent with a sly deck and had a bunch of draw and discard

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i might have won if i got a different act 3 boss though. i unno how well sly decks work into that bound guy. he kept screwing me out of so much potential

near plinth
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What a win condition.

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I can see queen screwing over shiv decks similar to time eater.

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If she binds you shiv skills.

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Bet in higher ascension, she binds more than 3 cards.

near plinth
near plinth
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This is such a interesting boss relic.

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You can select the order of those relics. So, you can eval the relics from the weakest to strongest and pick in that order. With right pathing, you can have the strongest relic last the entire game.

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i don't think it's a good idea to go pure shivs obviously but that probably helps

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but "have good draw" applies to anyone

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peak socket
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i get if you are good with deck builders sts2 is prob not anymore difficult than sts1 but as someone who is absolute crap at it. this game is like 10 times harder. i breezed through a0 in sts1

near plinth
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I did go all shivs and it felt fine for the most part. But that will def change in higher ascensions.

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I think the act 3 bosses probably need to be to be tuned a bit more to be unique. Right now, they have their gimmicks, but not in the sense they counter entire archetypes.I feel like you can roll them over, but I guess I am comparing A20 versions to early ascensions. I will reserve judgement until I hit A10.

near plinth
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I feel liek the relationship is the same as the one between HK and skong.

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The game just assumes a certain degree of competency.

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back to sts2 grind today

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current progress is ascension 5 for ironclad, 6 on silent, 3 on necro/regent, 5 on defect

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just made sts1 calculated gamble with the unexhaust event lol

peak socket
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i too will be doing a grind today. maybe i can get a win

near plinth
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This would never happen to my boi time eater.

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yeah the bosses/elites need to counter specific strategies more

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i don't feel like i actually need to plan ahead for specific encounters

near plinth
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Yeah, it feels like you can beat everything the same way at times.

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what's been a must buy relic you've seen and taken every time in the shop?

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for me it's ghost seed

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like i don't think it should be in the game, it's too broken

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how is this ok

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damn that's a big stack

peak socket
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rate my deck

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hey nice!

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goop event hell yeah

peak socket
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i feel i was only able to do it cuz tent

near plinth
peak socket
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nope

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glass orbs

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glass orbs frost, holo gram and spam hotfix

near plinth
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Ah you had spinner

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What is the evoke effect on glass orbs?

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It's nothing, right?

agile zephyr
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am i missing smthing about regent? climbing each characters ascensions together and it always takes me multiple tries with him compared to like 1-2 with everyone else

peak socket
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its double its damage i think

agile zephyr
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obviously regents high rolls feel godly but im just talkin consistency

peak socket
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if the glass orb has 0 though i dont think it does anything

agile zephyr
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is he the weakest or am i shit

delicate pendant
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who up for some slay the spire multiplayer

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so i just try to build solid commons

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near plinth
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Regent's star synergies are pretty solid. There are some good cards that generates stars, plus that power that gives you block when you spend it.

peak socket
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voidform is cool

near plinth
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Yeah, I am not sure why they printed "end your turn" on it. It's never relevant.

peak socket
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relevant for you sherlock

near plinth
peak socket
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thats a lotta pressure

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i beat the game i should just uninstall already

near plinth
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It is not over until you have a 70% winrate on A10.

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@delicate pendant ready? i'll join a vc you're in

peak socket
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how does transform work? does it only transform into a card of its type?

near plinth
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It is arbitrary, but will preserve class (i.e regent card always transforms into another regent card). Though it will always transform a curse into a curse.

peak socket
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ah that was my mistake, attempted to transform a curse

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the other day

sleek jacinth
peak socket
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the spire is the state of mind when you roll bullshit rng

peak socket
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knowledge demon has to be the most unfun enemy ive encountered in a rogue lite

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i'm picking take damage every time

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you may not have my energy and draw

earnest tartan
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Silent hunter or whatever its called

peak socket
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is that the play? to just have a good enough deck to tank the crazy amount of incoming damage? i get overwhelmed really fast after the second stack

earnest tartan
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I am also not a fan of coral man

peak socket
# earnest tartan Trust me there are less fun ones

i made the joke with sherlock that the devs took the wrong inspiration from silksong. you have the leeches from the worst area debuff and you have a boss that looks like the little shits that jump out of the swamp with blow darts

earnest tartan
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Aw that guy is fine

peak socket
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i havnt learned the names of anything, so i unno what you mean by silent hunter

earnest tartan
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Idk it either

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Its a normal enemy that debuffs you with "whenever you play a card, lose 1 strength 1 Dexterity this turn"

peak socket
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oh thats prob why i dont know it cuz i mostly play defect

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the fog creature i really hate

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i also hate the 4 worm elite

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curl up on every turn ragh

earnest tartan
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yeah i also hate them

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docs just kinda sucks imo

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very hard elites

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very hard bosses

peak socket
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finally the tier lists are starting to come out. now i can play the game proper

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the before and after relics wise after paels wings is so funny

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i love this relic

peak socket
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if you enchant a card with the extra damage, is that just flat damage or does it trigger each time with multihit?

near plinth
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Ok, I can see how soul spam can be a bit degen.

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near plinth
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Not even. The deck was one of those decks where I didn't realize that I had won until I had won.

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The soul gen engine was:

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Had a mini doom engine running in parallel too.

earnest tartan
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goated regent run

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got form at the very end

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earnest tartan
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deck was feeling kinda iffy until a3

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i got the scarf

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and suddenly everything flowed so well

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how are you guys doing neow starts

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i pick transform every time

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i feel like they're really good

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crazy how this is viable

peak socket
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im so upset, i actually finally had a good silent deck and run. killing elites left and right and nothing was a bother. shitty ass mind boss killed me. everything i needed was at the back of the deck. what a tilter

near plinth
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Silly defect deck in StS1 style. Managed to get double echo form into mayhem for the final boss. The game was auto-playing 4 cards for free at the start of each turn. Borderline impossible to lose.

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Lightning rod is a good defect card. A defensive lightning card is really good to have.

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My opinion of defect at this point is just get frost orbs and win

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There's really no enemy that can outscale you once you do that

near plinth
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I think orb spam is strong in general. Focus is way more consistent this time around as it is attached to more common cards. Both hotfix and focussed strikes are really good. You are not as reliant on defrag or the other focus card.

peak socket
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doesnt waterfall giant prevent stalling like that though

near plinth
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Nah, waterfall giant dies real fast if you have like 2~3 lightning cards with either hotfix or focussed strike.

delicate pendant
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@arctic scaffold \

near plinth
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they just happen naturally and the enemies just die

peak socket
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ok game i see you

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just getting carried by events and no thought or skill

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apo my beloved]

near plinth
earnest tartan
peak socket
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Anyone notice weak is insanely strong

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And getting fasten just wins you the run

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Lowkey bomb is really good with defect

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Since you're blocking everything anyway and there's so much aoe

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Rolling boulder is hot ass

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3 cost for such sad damage

peak socket
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i took a rolling boulder with voidform which was kinda funny

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Voidform is win button

peak socket
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watching NL and i think i under valued prolong

earnest tartan
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Omnislice is super good aoe if you have vulnerable at all

peak socket
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correct me if im wrong, but in sts1 IC had a card that did something if you play power cards right?

near plinth
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Nah

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Defect had storm and
d coolant

peak socket
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i knew it wasnt as good as defect but i thought they had something. had a fun power build going and was fishing for something that helped with powers

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i gotta go do some irl stuff but later tonight if im in the mood i wanna get a silent win. so if you are down for a coaching session ill ping you

near plinth
earnest tartan
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holy based power batman

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missing two removals hurt but it was super broken to deal close 800 damage turn 1 everytime

near plinth
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I really like the design behind neurosurge.

earnest tartan
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i do not lol that card is super broken

near plinth
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Interesting way to do the "Take another turn" type card.

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It is more reasonable if you don't have it in a busted deck and you are in a low health situation where the downside matters.

earnest tartan
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i dont even think its ok normally

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the downside only matters if youre already losing

near plinth
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It feels like a version of adrenaline/offering that is more well thought out. Adrenaline is just.."Take another turn".

earnest tartan
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nah i think adrenaline is fine

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necro needs to be +2 on normal and +3 on upgrade imo

near plinth
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I can see that being an acceptable nerf.

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Or they can make it +10 doom instead of +3.

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Just lean into the downside more.

earnest tartan
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yeah increasing the downside would make it much more interesting

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right now its a snap pick if i ever see it

near plinth
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Absolute goat.

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I hate ppl like that.

peak socket
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alright i could be persuaded to do a run

peak socket
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4 wins in a row, that means its solved right

near plinth
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For some reason, I can only win with stampede-primal force decks on ironclad.

peak socket
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whats ic starter upgrade relic do?

near plinth
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Heals for 12

agile zephyr
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this gotta be my favorite card since limit break

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not even upgraded but this is just the funniest card

peak socket
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saw you typing notha. i had a card that played from exhaust but didnt have the exhaust keyword naturally so this mid card i took didnt have the potential i thought it had

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which is why i asked. but i forgor

agile zephyr
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the only card i know that plays from exhaust is some rare Regent card, but that one also has exhaust built in so idk

peak socket
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its an ic card

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i can grab it real quick

agile zephyr
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this the one i was talking about

peak socket
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yea thats how i thought this card worked

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which is why i took it

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but then it just went back into my deck lol and was a brick

agile zephyr
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oh ive never taken this card lmao

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exhaust ironclad was really good in the first game but i havent tried it much in 2

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agile zephyr
# arctic scaffold this solves so much

one of my favorite runs so far was when i got burst with this bad boy. shiv silent being more fun than last game was something im pleasantly surprised abt

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oh wait ur talking about bombardment LMAO

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ive never tried it out yet tbh

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great card since there's so much aoe

near plinth
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Sly is also degen, it seems. Just spamming prepared.

near plinth
near plinth
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I think they need to fix this one way or another. Bombardment is just straight up busted while this is kinda garbage.

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Hmm, maybe not. IC just has a lot of ways to damage.

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near plinth
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Yeah, my win condition was slightly different. It was more of sly-poison hybrid.

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Killed the Q in 5 turns.

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I think I would have lost if not for the apothesis hard carry.

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near plinth
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Yeah, that's the same for me with IC. I cannot play that character. I think it took mel ike 6 attempts to clear A2 while silent only took 2 tries. I wasn't even paying attention in the first try.

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earnest tartan
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Always has been imo

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oh idk about that

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the reward for discarding was nowhere close as high as it is now

earnest tartan
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Idk zero mana -1 look at 2 more cards is very good

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i don't think it's horrible it's just that her other cards were so much better

earnest tartan
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Very fair

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I always compare it to an older mtg card with the same text

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And its banned in several formats

arctic scaffold
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and vice versa some stuff that was very strong from last game became weaker, even though they're the same card, due to the context of this game, just because of what's needed

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like after image is lower value even though it was like a must take in sts1 due to shivs not being such a dominant strategy compared to discard stuff now

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it's still good i can just name way more cards better than it now

earnest tartan
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Feels odd that shivs are weaker now

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When they got alot of great cards

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yeah isn't it

earnest tartan
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Do you think part of it was the blade dance nerf?

arctic scaffold
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even though blade dance is weaker, i don't think it made the overall package of shivs any weaker as a whole

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they more than compensated it with the rest of the cards

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i think shiv stuff is just stronger now

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it just doesn't work AS WELL for this game compared to the rest

agile zephyr
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i feel like shivs are one of silents best packages, i think poison is shit in this game tho

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sly is obviously good, but its sometimes hard to find an actual wincon with it. Its nice to just throw the common valuable cards in any deck tho

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i think pinpoint is ridiculous

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the wincon is just never end your turn

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and the game's added so many ways to thin your deck

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biggest glowup i've seen on the same exact card is obviously prepared, but insanely enough, the bomb

agile zephyr
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stalling strategies in general got better, most bosses dont scale that fast

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outside of like knowledge demon

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before, if you tried to play slow, those two would punish you severely

peak socket
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Anyone done a claw run yet

earnest tartan
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Yep

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Turned into power run after a late act2 echo form

peak socket
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what do you guys think they were thinking when adding snake bite

peak socket
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have you guys done this event and if so how good is the reward

peak socket
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man wtf. had a fun dark orb run going but legit only 1 frost orb reward popped up. how are you suppose to play this character with no frost. got to the final boss and just hits too hard

peak socket
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who are the sts youtube content creators to look out for? i swear you watch one tier list and your reccs get flooded with videos. dont want to watch some clickbaiters

worldly abyss
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it depends what style you want

near plinth
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Also, good video.

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I recommend.

earnest tartan
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Frost prime if you want noise in the background

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watching him improves my game so much

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he's boycotting playing the original characters because he thinks they're too strong, so he's just doing necro and regent runs rn

near plinth
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Has any of them done a balance discussion yet?

arctic scaffold
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throughout the runs yeah

near plinth
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I am curious to hear what everyone thinks. I think mainly that a majority of the elites and the act 2/3 bosses need some tuning either to make them unique or to make them a bit more challenging.

arctic scaffold
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tldr
act 1 is where your turns will end the most, once you survive that, the rest of the game is pretty free
original trio are too strong
he would nerf basically 90% of cards and don't think they belong in the game in the way it is rn (shockwave being on all classes, hotfix, forgotten ritual)
some relics are game changinng and are way too strong (example: cloaked clasp available on all characters, pael's wings, remove card ancient options)
blocking and stalling is too strong right now
lack of needing to change your strategy on act 2/3 fights, wants something like the inclusion of the heart to really counter majority of deck types

near plinth
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I def agree with the last point. I feel like once your deck is functional (which I guess is the point about the act 1 being a filter), it is pretty hard to die. I also think act 2 regular encounters can use a little bit more sauce. They are pretty tame compared to act 1 and nowhere near the horror show that was sts 1's act 2.

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i think act 2 normal encounters are harder on paper but we get so strong by that point

near plinth
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@peak socket I would recommend that Jorbs video. You mentioned that you wouldn't have considered serpent form in that sly silent run, right? I think the idea of "jobs" that Jorbs is talking about will help with identifying why picking sforms was a good idea in that situation.

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baalor and xecnar in the same twitch chat what the

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agile zephyr
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Regent is fun but it feels like Watcher where im basically just going for the same build over and over in higher ascensions atp. I really feel like his other archetypes like Forge and colorless feel so bad

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Stars is just so much better and it feels like he has the least amt of variety compared to any other character

near plinth
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Bulwark makes forge pretty viable if you pick it up early. You don't really need that much enable forge.

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Stars is very strong though.

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Spot the enabler

peak socket
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obviously the kick

near plinth
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It is the fan favorite, snecko eye.

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It also randomizes the star cost.

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I picked the star cards with the highest cost, slapped some draw on top and called it a deck and sent it.

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I kept taking damage because I kept forgetting that void form ends the turn.

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I think they did that to balance against relics that replays cards. I took one this game over a safe energy relic because I thought it doubles the first card played every turn and thought it was ez echo form. Turns out it is once per combat.

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But I didn't get double void form out of it.

agile zephyr
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btw the Reflections event can Downgrade and Upgrade the same card lmao

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I got lucky and it just upgraded both of the downgraded ones

near plinth
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Osty maxxed the test subject

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Dirge is kinda silly with necro mastery

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Stalled him to death

earnest tartan
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dirge is such a good card

near plinth
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Yeah, defense + soul wincon at the same time

earnest tartan
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super flexible too, triggers skill synergies even at zero, goes nuts with replay

near plinth
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I was cycling into invoke endlessly, so I had like 12 mana turns and just kept playing huge dirges.

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If you necro mastery + dirge is an auto-win for the most part.

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Friendship is an extremely good power.

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-1 str for 1 energy.

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-2 str unupgraded, but I don't see necrobinder builds rely on direct attacks.

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It's just free energy

earnest tartan
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yeah and not a huge tempo loss

peak socket
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this is that simpsons meme

arctic scaffold
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i really hope act 2/3 gets as much love as act 1

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i think act 1 is basically perfect

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it's so well designed and balanced really well

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i don't think i took damage as soon as i cleared act 1

peak socket
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is that your first max ascension character?

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yer

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defect nice, i'm at a9 for him

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*next

peak socket
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Defect has been my favourite so far. I like the idea of regent but I need to learn how to balance multi resources before I go ham

earnest tartan
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I think i took it on a claw defect run too

peak socket
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is the triangle elite the most worthless one in the game

peak socket
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claw good

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whispering earrings absolute cinema

arctic scaffold
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Vaku take the wheel

peak socket
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also icecream with a 0 cost deck is so peak

arctic scaffold
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I was kind of anti multiplayer before it released, thinking why would I ever play it, but after trying a few runs I am so sold

agile zephyr
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every time i get this pairing i cry tears of happiness

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getting a relic every fight is just too fun

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Pael my beloved

peak socket
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how do you win with regent notha

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you said you only do star builds?

agile zephyr
# peak socket you said you only do star builds?

Basically I find one or two solid damage dealing star cards like Devastate, Gamma Blast, Commet, or Seven Stars. Then the rest of the deck is just making sure I have near infinite resources from cards like Big Bang, Alignment, and a couple Glows and maybe hidden cache. My main block options are from stuff like Cloak of Stars, Reflect, Guards, or Particle Wall.

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Then theres some other support cards I pick up from time to time like Photon Cut, Crush Under/Astral Pulse for AoE, Guiding Star, etc

peak socket
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i think my runs on regent get front loaded with damage and i find myself never having enough block

agile zephyr
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A lot of Regents best block cards are in his Star package

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cards like Reflect are fucking broken

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theres also a power to get block from using stars too which I use a lot

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his other archetypes get like 1 good block card max like Bulwark

peak socket
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alright i think i came across a bug. sherlock said sneko randomizes star cost. adding slither to a card does not

earnest tartan
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Even without forge synergy

agile zephyr
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i have picked up bulwark in early act 1 tho just to cruise with it

peak socket
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im sorry what?

peak socket
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well that was mostly free

near plinth
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Ok. I found something that the queen kinda hard counters.

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Good ole unceasing top decks.

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Nearly killed me.

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Hard to cycle 0 cost cards if you can't play your hand out.

near plinth
#

Surprisingly good card.

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Don't use it in the sandworm encounter though. It burnt all the escape cards lol.

peak socket
near plinth
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Half my deck was 0 cost cards

peak socket
#

ahh name of a relic

near plinth
#

My 2 win cons was a) biased cog and cross your fingers and b) use unceasing top cycle through my garbage insertion cards like turbo, boost away and fight through and then play flak cannon.

peak socket
#

i see i see

earnest tartan
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love me small decks

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one card off infinite

peak socket
#

whats the neow tier list?

near plinth
#

I just vibe select the neow options.

agile zephyr
#

but its actually the option that gives you two relics upon killing the boss, ive never not picked that one

earnest tartan
near plinth
#

I go with the hard cash option a lot of times. 150 gold is more or less lets you skip an elite fight.

peak socket
#

whats about the greed one

near plinth
#

I take that too. Cannot say no to cash in this economy.

near plinth
#

I think there is actually a bit too much energy generation in early turns. Every class has a strong card that generates energy/draw and the newly added candle relics are pretty strong. Probably better than the ship relics.

peak socket
#

hopefully they do good on balance

near plinth
#

The ship relics are stronger early game, but free energy on your setup turns is pretty wack in late game.

peak socket
#

potions also do it

agile zephyr
#

praying for an energy relic after the boss everytime is more boring than what we have now which im greatful for

peak socket
#

ok i guess

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also i didnt know he ran spreadsheets of his runs lol

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is bread actually a good relic?

arctic scaffold
earnest tartan
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Goes extremely hard with paels eye

peak socket
#

in sts1 could this happen? i thought merchants were more balanced in where they could be placed

arctic scaffold
#

Yep

earnest tartan
#

im coming around on regent

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guy feels very good if you just ignore forge

arctic scaffold
#

So true

peak socket
#

you been watching charlie sts 2 runs lys?

arctic scaffold
#

I sure have been

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Why

peak socket
#

video popped up on my rec and i remembered you were watching his older vods for sts1

arctic scaffold
#

He seems to be really enjoying himself

arctic scaffold
#

down for multi

earnest tartan
arctic scaffold
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have i been baited

near plinth
delicate pendant
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this just marked 2 elites

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in a single path

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easiest run of my life

arctic scaffold
delicate pendant
#

dreams dead

peak socket
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Just witnessed peak sts. Streamer was trying out an exhaust deck and it pumps out numbers. Decided to hit an elite that was right after the bonfire. Said ok before this elite we are upgrading this demon form it's pretty much our win con. First turn plays cinder and it exhausts the demon form

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Still did it no problem but the timing was cinema

earnest tartan
#

holy broken batman

arctic scaffold
#

Holy replay dirge

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I've heard the tales

earnest tartan
#

Yeah

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Eidolon is also turbo broken

peak socket
#

how do you guys like the cards with the effect "change cards into different cards in your hand"

agile zephyr
#

but smthing like primal force for ironclad is pretty bad

peak socket
agile zephyr
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yea i mainly just use regents to fix my deck and make my draw + resource generation more consistent

arctic scaffold
#

Not sure which one you're referring to but charge on regent is great

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Anything that allows you to target exhaust is great

peak socket
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i thought it was the one that turns cards into the block ones

arctic scaffold
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If it says turn card into another card that exhausts, it's OP

near plinth
peak socket
#

exhaust deck is pretty fun. funny thing is i unlocked the good exhaust cards after completing this

arctic scaffold
agile zephyr
grand roost
arctic scaffold
#

i failed the connections, wasn't familiar with the new relics argh

earnest tartan
#

dude its hard

peak socket
#

is that an event?

peak socket
#

do you guys like the fact that necrobinders pet doesnt share your buffs and debuffs?

arctic scaffold
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Absolutely

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The cards that reduce your strength are so strong because of it

agile zephyr
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It makes her unique and feel like an actual summon/pet

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so im for it

near plinth
#

Nearly ended my run. Getting copies of curses and bad cards. RoboMayAngry

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Souls too busted though. Took like 20 turns to kill doormaker with only haunt as my damage output, but kill him we did.

peak socket
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Oh I thought that would just be card rewards but ya it would work with just regular deck play

near plinth
#

It was card rewards, but you also have events that gives you curses. Transform is also considered adding a card to the deck, so that also stuffed some garbage.

arctic scaffold
#

big mushroom relic makes me the same size as mecha knight

arctic scaffold
agile zephyr
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i did an ironclad infinite today w my friends and it was their first time seeing it lmao. that shit is so cheap im never doing it again but its funny as hell

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thats cool u did it with the regent card which is just pommel strike 2.0 lmao

arctic scaffold
#

could not find another one so i had to settle lol

peak socket
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i saw a ic infinite that just auto played itself, couldnt stop playing cards till everything was dead. wish i could do it

agile zephyr
#

iirc its just 2x pommel strike + Hellraiser. Its not too hard to set up since you prob take pommel strikes any time alr and atp its just finding that one power

peak socket
#

you ever just have a genetic algo at like 50 stacks but during the boss you only drew it during boss debuffing?

near plinth
peak socket
peak socket
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most fun deck ive done so far. something about starting with more energy, turbo, double energy, multicast+ for a billion damage

arctic scaffold
#

big deck

near plinth
#

Why can I not win with IC?

peak socket
peak socket
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we do a little memeing in this household

arctic scaffold
#

damn 9 strikes and 4 blood walls

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and the 6 p strikes

peak socket
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There was a point where I knew the deck couldn't win cuz I got too greedy with the strikes. But then I got the dupe the entire deck event and thought you know what, in for a penny in for a pound

earnest tartan
#

i love top

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deck was actually nuts though

peak socket
#

why is this worded oddly?

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oh wait nvm i just got it

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its 8 damage then 8 damage split between everything else

earnest tartan
#

its so if you have a debuff on an enemy that improves damage it can spread

peak socket
#

what do you pick here

arctic scaffold
peak socket
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it was scuffed but was looking like a status deck

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also i learned rampage is horrible if you end up getting the crab boss

earnest tartan
#

they gotta nerf dirge

arctic scaffold
#

real

earnest tartan
#

its just infinite fodder

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or nerf borrowed time

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or buff doom

arctic scaffold
#

what, to urself?

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double effects of doom on yourself

earnest tartan
#

i mean the issue is that doom doesnt matter if you get to deal infinte damage

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you can have 8000 doom stacks

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and it doesnt matter

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because you have a 12000 health osty

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and your unleash does enough damage to kill

arctic scaffold
#

i like having barricade and body slam in my starter deck

earnest tartan
#

yeah idk

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necro just seems to be the best imo

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they have very solid cards

arctic scaffold
#

hmm

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i still think defect is

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and then ironclad goes infinite too easily

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but silent has discard BS

earnest tartan
#

hm

arctic scaffold
#

it's cool that it's hard to decide

earnest tartan
#

ive only gone infinite on ic once

arctic scaffold
#

ot

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you just need a few common cards

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which means it's consistent

earnest tartan
#

yeah

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i mean same with necro

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1 uncommon and any soul card

agile zephyr
#

IC>Necro>Defect>Silent>Regent to me

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silent and defect can swap

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but i truly do think u can force IC infinite and get it pretty consistently

arctic scaffold
#

it's like this for me

agile zephyr
arctic scaffold
#

no

earnest tartan
#

super fun run

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music box with sly and the vuln innate cards felt very strong

arctic scaffold
#

Whoa music box huh

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Didn't think it would matter a lot

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That tingsha tho

earnest tartan
#

tingsha was good

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but having the upgraded silent unique was pretty good

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and being able to stack 6 vuln t1 was very good

arctic scaffold
#

Nah suppress is broken

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Wdu mean 17 damage 0 cost 5 weak

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Those numbers are too big

earnest tartan
#

yeah very strong

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and i would have two copies of it

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so 34 damage 15 weak

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  • dexterity
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basically didnt take damage

arctic scaffold
#

I think that's the strongest full art card

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Maybe apparition

earnest tartan
#

very silly run

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glitter+flanking lead to 600 damage strikes with my buddy

peak socket
#

and you said my deck wqas large

earnest tartan
#

my deck was doubled

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and i had a relic that heavily recomends you take every card reward

near plinth
#

Just max slop.

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Master planner feels good on a fast cycling deck.

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It's overall power level might be somewhat boosted by sly being pretty busted. Prepared is basically 0 cost, draw 2, play 2 cards for free in this economy.

earnest tartan
#

I LOVE UPROAR

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I WANT TO CHEAT MANA COSTS

peak socket
earnest tartan
#

absurd that this doesnt trigger on the cards you draw per turn

peak socket
#

did defect lose the card that evokes then channels the orb?

arctic scaffold
arctic scaffold
peak socket
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that must be why my dark orb builds have sucked MayThink

near plinth
peak socket
#

first time ive gotten to a sts with the potion debuff. didnt realize how shitty a time having only 2 slots is

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i didnt think much of it

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also am i crazy to think that some common encounters require more thought in your deck than elites?

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maybe thats the wrong way to word that

earnest tartan
arctic scaffold
#

Watching navegreed play slay the spire is so silly

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He's so good he finds random ass strategies I've never even thought of

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Got ghost seed, picked up gambit and fumes, and just played then just played gambit end turn for the rest of the run

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A10 btw

arctic scaffold
near plinth
#

That's a neat strat

arctic scaffold
#

Shows a few things:
ghost seed is broken

Too many ways to exhaust in this game

Enemies don't hit hard enough and don't punish draw enough

Too little scaling, making stalling strays too consistent

peak socket
#

how did sts1 punish draw

arctic scaffold
#

Better phrasing would be drawing would not be as rewarding

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There were less infinites, more ways to brick your draw, and resources spent on draw would not be so easily recouperated

peak socket
#

what does the sword of stone turn into

arctic scaffold
#

3 strength

near plinth
#

starslop

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I don't know how this won, but it did. No real scaling. Just cycled lotsa random damage.

#

Manifest authority is very very solid.

#

The average quality of colorless cards have gone up. So it's not as much of a crapshoot as it would have been in sts1.

#

The neow relic that gives you 3 upgrades for an empty chest is also very strong. relics don't seem to be as much of a game changer, but 3 free upgrades is a huge deal.

arctic scaffold
#

even tho they may be better

#

it's still introducing rng in your otherwise more consistent stars

near plinth
#

Yeah, but working in a card like manifest authority is actually not that detrimental. Especially in act 1. It's just an above average block card on its own.

#

Kinda like leap or shrug it off.

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I would also say like stars is probably the only way to win it seems.

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Forge is just weak as hell and colorless card gen is not a win condition. More of a support strategy.

peak socket
#

wheres your ranking of the characters?

near plinth
#

A5 on IC, Silent and Regent. A4 on Necro and Defect.

peak socket
#

i meant where do you rank all of them from your favourite to least

near plinth
#

Regent -> Necro/Silent -> IC -> Defect

peak socket
#

im hurt, you dont like my boy

near plinth
#

Defect is kinda...I dunno. I played too much defect in sts 1 and I don't enjoy the orb cycling as much.

peak socket
#

how you going to look at this and tell him hes the worst

arctic scaffold
#

adorable

agile zephyr
#

but this game has a lot of consistent playstyles with charas that I dont really enjoy. Frost stands out too much, Infinite IC stands out too much, Stars stand out too much, Discard/Sly stand out too much

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Necrobinder has a lot of viable shit though so I dont mind that souls is strong since I can actually try different builds on her most of the time

peak socket
#

i dont think ive had the same win con with each of my defect runs

agile zephyr
#

im not talking about win cons, but I do believe that you generally want to add frost to literally every Defect deck at any point of the game

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frost doesnt have a specific wincon but you can add it to set up ALL your wincons

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thats how I feel in a10 atleast, enemies do a shit ton of damage to the point where I feel like its almost necessary

peak socket
#

ah thats true, im still working my way through the mid levels of ascension

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they need to make a focus noise again

agile zephyr
#

focus noise?

peak socket
#

in sts when you got focus it make like a whirl

#

noise

#

it was satisfying

earnest tartan
#

poison silent

earnest tartan
peak socket
#

if you lack some good block cards is it fine to take more than 1 piercing wail?

earnest tartan
#

squeezing the spire

peak socket
#

first poison win, id have eaten shit on higher ascension

earnest tartan
#

compound

#

ive reached a larger ddeck

grand roost
#

only 512 Squeezes

peak socket
#

you robbed me of my only achievement

arctic scaffold
#

It's one of her best cards

arctic scaffold
peak socket
#

this should be an auto win right?

peak socket
#

also does thorns seem way more powerful in this game compared to sts1?

earnest tartan
#

Lot of multi attacks

peak socket
#

starting to see why people like this game

agile zephyr
#

u didnt before?

peak socket
#

nope, too stupid for deck builders

arctic scaffold
#

Have u been rage playing this game

arctic scaffold
peak socket
# arctic scaffold Have u been rage playing this game

sts 1 at the start maybe you could say that? hated feeling dumb but didnt stick with it long. then my group of friends who i play board games with, one of them picked up the physical version of sts and he thought it was interesting enough to pick up the pc game. so i reinstalled with him and it was a race between the 2 of us to climb ascension levels

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wasnt going to pick up 2 but i got gifted a scratch ticket that won 30 dollars a day before the sequel dropped so thought why not

earnest tartan
#

Patch notes dropped

#

Infinites got nerfed heavily

#

Prep is dead

arctic scaffold
earnest tartan
#

its now 1 mana

#

and only gives energy

#

dirge dead

peak socket
#

wow they killed defect

#

dont know how big of a change the rest of these changes are since i only play 2 and a half characters

near plinth
#

dirge shot on the streets

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prep is also super dead.

#

oh reworked doormaker

#

Necro got away with a slap to the wrist. Dirge being dead is cool and all, but she has many weapons. Like a Nazgul.

near plinth
peak socket
#

was prep the same in both games?

near plinth
#

yeah

arctic scaffold
#

no way they buffed charge what the fuck

#

it was one of his strongest cards

near plinth
#

That was kinda mid innit?

#

I didn't take it as often as Guards

arctic scaffold
#

absolutely not

near plinth
#

It is so much delayed value.

arctic scaffold
#

well one - guards was exhaust

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charge is unlimited targeted exhaust

#

it just solves your infinite for you

#

makes like every other build irrelevant if you see it early

near plinth
#

Yeah, but guards was exhaust in your hand and did both deck thinning and defense. Charge is 1 energy now for deck thinning later and you have to draw spend 2 draw on glorified strikes.

#

Hmm, I don't aim for infinites.

#

So maybe that's why I don't care for it.

arctic scaffold
#

i mean there's not caring

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and then not realizing how broken it was

#

big part of regent (like every other character at a10) is exhausting your entire deck down and going infinite

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and that's his most consistent way to do it

#

it's a 1 card deck thinning solution

#

they don't brick your draw pile, so your next deck draw cycle is better

#

it's basically a burning pact except it does 14 upgraded to 20 damage

#

those numbers are absurd

near plinth
#

It looks like they are shooting infinites as they should. I didn't care for burning pact either. Maybe that's why my IC win rate is ass.

#

Regent seems to work fine outside of infinite domain tbh.

arctic scaffold
#

i really like the direction they're going making infinites harder to achieve/impossible

peak socket
#

did they nerf that card that plays strikes as you draw them?

arctic scaffold
#

every run would look the same

arctic scaffold
#

ironclad had way too many things that took priority to nerf than hellraiser

peak socket
#

isnt that how ic goes infinite?

arctic scaffold
#

the biggest priority being stoke

#

which is great that they nerfed it

#

thank god

#

that card should not exist lol

near plinth
#

I didn't notice that minion strikes also draw. That defintely makes it a bit better in my opinion. It's still not a card that gravitate towards. I will have to give it a try next time.

arctic scaffold
#

clad goes infinite by exhausting your deck, getting forgotten ritual, pommel strike, bloodletting, vicious etc

#

it was so mindlessly easy because most of the infinite ingridients are commons

#

which made it very consistent

#

i posted a few clips here of it but honestly you just mishmash a bunch of stuff while exhausting your deck and you'll just happen to go infinite

#

stoke made it too easy

earnest tartan
arctic scaffold
earnest tartan
#

exactly

#

idk

arctic scaffold
#

hey if you have a whole hand of defends and strikes

earnest tartan
#

at 1 it was fineish

arctic scaffold
#

it's not the worst thing ever

earnest tartan
#

upgrade shoulda been like

#

"1 mana, exhaust your hand draw that many next turn"

arctic scaffold
#

thank god they buffed the gold gaining relics they were ass and i was sad whenever i saw them

near plinth
#

I think too many deck thinning mechanics just makes removals lower value though. I think shooting those cards is probably healthier in the long term. I don't know whether I like stoke's current incarnation, but I didn't like it before.

arctic scaffold
#

oh god thank god they nerfed preserved fog

earnest tartan
#

im not a fan of that nerf

arctic scaffold
earnest tartan
#

its worse empty cage

arctic scaffold
#

5 cards remove is just too strong

earnest tartan
#

i agree!

#

but 3 is not enough with a curse

peak socket
#

I found out if you take the gold from neow, not the one with greed, you couldn't afford any relics from the shop is it was an early shop

#

So if that got changed that's good

arctic scaffold
#

i love buffer

peak socket
#

New door maker is cursed

peak socket
#

man i love defect, just had a run where i think i had 9 orb slots, started the fight with 3 orbs, and a barrage that did 15 damage per orb

arctic scaffold
#

mm orb slots

peak socket
errant sphinxBOT
peak socket
#

some of these normal encounters are so fucked man, how are you suppose to deal with the worm ghost summon without taking any damage

agile zephyr
#

i think they just nerfed him in beta branch tbf

peak socket
#

is finisher outside of shiv a good card?

arctic scaffold
#

you need attacks

#

i actively look for good attacks on defect every time i get that act 1

peak socket
#

that rage post came off the back of the silent

#

im just a couple bosses left before i have all the silent unlocks

near plinth
#

Dumbest deck I have run.

#

Was playing with my bro

peak socket
#

i cant get a run going since reaching this curse ascension

arctic scaffold
near plinth
#

It was stupid. I had to waste so many adrenalines digging for corrosive wave or speedster. Once I got it, it was joever. But turns out 96 adrenalines is a lot of adrenalines.

peak socket
#

does boot work with enemies who have tangible

near plinth
#

I am not sure.

#

Probably ont.

#

?

earnest tartan
#

in 1 it dealt the 5

#

so id assume its the same

agile zephyr
#

It did work in the original

peak socket
#

i have come to the conclusion that a white noise build gamble is not the way

near plinth
#

White noise is a feel good card.

#

You remember those runs when you win by high rolling echo form against heart.

agile zephyr
#

I will always think its funny Defect went 2 for 2 on the better version of shared/similar card designs

#

Infernal blade and distraction are so dogshit compared to White Noise

peak socket
#

yea but if 1 zero cost is good what if i had 3 zero costs. i could get 3 echo forms

agile zephyr
#

and Hotfix was so much better than Flex and the Silent one that gave dexterity

near plinth
peak socket
#

yea i died like a bag of dicks to the claws

near plinth
peak socket
#

they just want to make silent bad again

near plinth
#

What do you mean? The 96 adrenaline archetype is alive and well.

#

We should do a run sometime compound.

#

and lys too

#

and zyx too

peak socket
#

i could be convinced to get a carry

peak socket
peak socket
#

is there an upgraded starting relic for necro/regent?

earnest tartan
#

ye

peak socket
#

what they do?

earnest tartan
#

summon 4, then 2 on turn start

#

more stars

#

6iirc

peak socket
#

ah

#

so nothing spicy

earnest tartan
#

necros is very good

#

a free frost orb is nothing to sneeze at

peak socket
#

yea but spicy would more summon and thorns

#

more summon is just to be expected

near plinth
#

Classic hang - dredge ironclad.

#

Regent and Necrobinder cards feel good in IC.

near plinth
#

Kinda unconventional deck for me.

#

Took a relic that gave colorless rewards and act 3 reward was free potions at start of each combat since I had potion belt.

#

Fasten feels really good on silent.

#

Like a superior footwork as her better block cards give ton of block, so just improving defends is a huge deals. +5 to defend is like 2.5 footworks.

arctic scaffold
near plinth
#

New doormaker bit of a menace. The fact that he eats your draw is more annoying than the card removal.

#

Drawing 4 cards on turn 2 is pretty rough.

near plinth
#

Ok. I am a CHARGE!! convert. I can see the vision. It's a lot of damage and filtering out status and chaff is really good.

#

There is also a relic that doubles minion cards damage output.

#

And the power that gives you +1 strength for every colorless card you play

#

I can see how CHARGE was probably better when it was minion strike beacuse of the draw.

#

I will take the draw over additional damage, but this is also fine.

#

The every 5th card is free is probably one of the best ways to get void form out.

arctic scaffold
#

The vision is strong

peak socket
#

anyone else bothered that its called right hand hand but ostry is on the necrobinders left hand side

arctic scaffold
#

I thought that was the joke

near plinth
#

Hit echo form with catastrophe+ and then playing catastrophe+ with echo form active is such a hit.

#

Doormaker can't eat those cards either coz they are not drawn.

arctic scaffold
#

i have no idea how i feel about catastrophe

#

i never picked it up

#

but with new doormaker hmm

#

could be strats

near plinth
#

It's an ok option. Not the best. But not terrible either. Good way to cheat some energy.

near plinth
#

Got a funny deck demolished by the queen.

#

Cascade+ with imbued. Offering with exhuast removed and deck had a catastrophe+. Turn 1 was some wildshit.

#

Turn 2 oth is not something that should be spoken about in public spaces.

near plinth
#

It's cool though. I ran it back with another funny cascade - whirlwind - chemical X run.

#

Expect a fight is a sick card.

earnest tartan
#

And only gets better with an energy relic

near plinth
#

The powerpoint man strikes again.

near plinth
#

ey another patch just hit

peak socket
#

oh nyo

#

i have never got to play the defect card and it got nerfed

near plinth
#

They reverted prepared, reworked the outdoor conveyance mechanism and the emo corals.

peak socket
#

jorbs gasing up doormaker video is already outdated

near plinth
#

They mention it is still supes disruptive.

#

So, let's see.

#

My regent got owned just now. I don't think forge is a real mechanic. I took like the least commital way to scale forge and still got owned. But that's probably because I didn't click on enough star generation cards.

#

Turned up my nose on gather light. This is what I get...

#

Also, interesting. Sovregn blade only costs 1 if it is upgraded. I had the relic that upgrades cards that you have already played.

peak socket
near plinth
#

@arctic scaffold @earnest tartan How do you evaluate cards that give you energy, but not draw outside the context of infinites? (i.e bloodletting, borrowed time, turbo etc) Are they good? I don't understand how to evaluate them. It is -1 draw for +2 energy on average and lot of times that doesn't feel good if your deck is largely 1 cost cards.

arctic scaffold
#

if you play bloodletting to be able to kill an enemy faster, who would've taken 20 health from you throughout the fight, it pays back its 3 health cost in dividends

near plinth
#

I understand the health cost, I am more concerned about the draw cost.

arctic scaffold
#

in that case just consider what you're enabling by picking up that card

#

would it help you get closer to your win con?

#

how much health would that save?

near plinth
#

If drawing bloodletting prevents me from drawing my powers or other strong cards (especially in the setup phase) and I draw bloodletting instead, then it feels bad. I think the conclusion is that I need to look at how likely am I to draw it along with my expensive win cons.

arctic scaffold
#

yeah it depends on how consistent your draw is too

#

bloodletting obviously becomes a lot better if you have good draw, or consistent access to your good cards with exhaust/a smaller deck

near plinth
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yeah, do I draw it with my wincons or my efficient draws.

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It is trickier to eval than 0 cost draws. 0 cost draws are almost always an autopick for me.

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well those are the ones you listed

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borrowed time turbo and bloodletting, at least the first one, is ALMOST an autopick for me

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I mean cards that cost 0 and draw. Battle trance, escape plan and overclock and such.

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well battle trance is one of ironclad's best cards

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I am usually hestiant with 0 cost energy gens. But need to pick those more.

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so yknow

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same deal

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yeah i think you're going towards the right direction

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Escape plan is also really strong, I feel.

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even better on silent because of her access to weakness, footwork, and strength down cards

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with the recent changes i definitely think silent is the strongest character

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New doormaker is pretty interesting. More complex. But..less hard maybe?

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definitely less hard

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He does not hit as hard.

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The debuffs are on a much slower cycle.

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The exhaust is kinda whatever.

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orbit is a very good power

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When upgraded.

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For all practical purposes, it is essentially "Gain +1 energy every turn".

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The edge cases are like X cost cards and like every 4(or 5 turns?), you only get 3 because you got energy for the last card play the previous turn or something.

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Really the only two im hesitant on is regents, mainly because it requires draw and other star cards to be better than ok. IC's has a downside that I think has mattered once to me

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is this u

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He reacted to prepared the same way I do. So maybe

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This is one of the hall of famers for mtg btw

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Limited iirc

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Not a format im versed in, but hes very good at it

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Limited is
3 packs
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Pass it to the next person in the group(groups are 6-8 people)
Repeat untill all cards in packs are gone
Build deck from drafted cards

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i thought the best slay the spire streamer was only on a break for a week but its 3 weeks

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tho he's looking more to test things now since he's tired of winning

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i need the one liners that NL provides

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Stole some tactics form navegreed.

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Calcify and rattle were the missing component for the osty deck it seems. Doubled my deck coz doormaker

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I did not realize that it was max HP and not my current HP.

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It's ok though. I just kept sending with cascade and it worked out.

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Max hp not that important

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See brightest flame being one of the most broken cards

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For that event, I also usually click 3 times. The power you get from that early on lets you snowball hard and saves more health than it takes in the long run

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Yeah, barely noticed it.

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My favorite act 1 event is the one that lets you pin slither to your expensive cards. That one is a run winner with a lot of 3 cost damage cards being an encounter solver.

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out of curiousity in sts1 how did you guys get the achievement minimalist?

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watcher lol

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were you allowed to do a seed or did you just happen upon a god run

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random run

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Great questions but saying elites are harder in sts2 than sts1 is crazy

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Sts2 players don't know the pain of a20 nemesis, repto, goblin mob, book of stabbing

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They did it again. They patched the game.

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The ppt man cometh

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bit of a departure of his normal videos

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def edited for his regular audience vs sts fans

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Ah yeah the speed run strat

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Transform=OP classic

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I like watching him for games I know nothing about because it sounds more impressive

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But since we know how stupidly broken/accessible infinites are in this game I'm just here to be happy that this gets introduced to more people

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how the fuck do i pick between these goats

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thats a snap bulwark imo

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Is this the neow reward? Bulwark solves a lot of act 1.

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Really fun run. Crash landing interaction with arsenal and supermassive is really good.

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Getting like +5~6 strength of a 1 cost card play is fun. Ran minimal star gen to fuel reflects and won off spamming crash landing and supermassive.

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Diamond Diadem is super clutch. Making half the damage disappear is so clutch in the queen fight. The deck had good chunky defense due to fasten and glitterstream, but really really bad draw. Diadem is really helpful in those turns where you are just having mediocre draw and taking like 50 damage.

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allows u to set up so well

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high cost powers etc

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Somehow ironclad went from my worst class to best.

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Shocking, what did u change?

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I don't think I'm ever beating my silent consistency

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I just started clicking on more exhaust cards. I think I realized that I don't need to scale infinitely, just enough to dent health bars. Like Ashen strike looked sus at first, but once you exhaust like 10 cards and it is hitting for like 30, you start ot see the light.

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I think the other thing is that it is actually quite easy to mass exhaust, so you hit the required numbers within a deck cycle instead of playing something like demon form and waiting for like 10 turns.

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That plus all the exhaust synergies just add up.

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I am pretty consistent with silent too. I think StS 1 playstyle just carries over well. Sly and hiding behind block is pretty viable and that's what I did in StS1 anyway.

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Everything I've heard is that he's a super nice guy. + he probably appreciates a detailed response

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Kinda wild that he didnt value suppress highly

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It's probably habits from playing sts1 because energy boss relics are so good

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I don't blame him

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I also found gem to be very good

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And very fun

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Love me grand finale on defect

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I basically treat prismatic gem as busted crown

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Take from navegreed: fasten should be removed from the game, it solves the game because the fights don't require that much output and one fasten is enough

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Also "regent is about watcher level, and silent is above watcher level"

"Defect might be the weakest but still stronger than the rest of the sts1 characters"

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I was watching one from yesterday as Ic. He goes into the shop and says whirlwind is nice but I'd rather cut a card so we can do our win con easier. The next encounter I kid you know is the decipede and says we have no aoe

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That's my fav parts, the comedic timing is so good

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He knows what he needs

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Decides to go against jt

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Instantly punished

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Forge deck thoughts: Forge does not need a lot to be good. Bulwark-Summon forth and maybe conquerer as a soft scaling card. The main problem is that it is really bad in AoE fights like Decimillipede or Gardners or act 3 fights. Powerful boss killer though.

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Stars are probably a requisite for every regent deck. Regent cards too expensive to not dip into a secondary resource. A lot of good star cards are either 0 or 1 energy which enables playing cards like sovereign blade as you don't have to pick between defense and offense every turn.

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Silver crucible is too good of a starter relic.

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I was wondering why snakebite feels bad compared to bouncing flask despite similar output. I think it is because of the retain, you are often evaluating it against other 5 other cards, while boucning flask, you are only evaluating against 4 cards. Snakebite just faces more competition.

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I did. I take snake bite semi-often. Lot of times, it just stays in my hand for like 2~3 turns before it gets played.

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Which is not ideal for a poison card

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is there an optimal order to kill the snake tentacle worm elite thing in act 1

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I think its 4, 1, 3, 2

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really shitty scaling but it's something

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a10 done on all characters