#Mortal Kombat

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wind hedge
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It's literally the same thing

tough rock
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Wife is finally sleeping, who wants to fight?

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Man.... Oliver needs to come back so i can emote him disappointingly.

Anyway here's a very minimal and basic story spoiler comparing remake and OG,

||Plot wise everything is the same between games until you start seeing ghosts||

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And the game straight up tells you what they are so there's no mystery

subtle oyster
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Sweet

subtle oyster
tough rock
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Bruh i made this dude RAGE in KL with Raiden

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I don't play KL often but when I do its glorious

tough rock
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And 3 straight Smoke/Frosts

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Thats enough KL for me until next season

kindred osprey
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You still on?

kindred osprey
tough rock
kindred osprey
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Ok! I'm getting water too

tough rock
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@kindred osprey im back

kindred osprey
tough rock
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Bruh they nerfed Sub again

kindred osprey
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Why?

tough rock
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Klone didn't freeze in the corner

kindred osprey
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Broooooo
Stop blocking my armor reversals

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LMFAO

tough rock
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Happy?

kindred osprey
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LMFAOOOOO

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Shittttt

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Good one

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Kitana going good, right?

tough rock
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I am simply not used to a projectile being safe on block

kindred osprey
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Not safe.
Plus

tough rock
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Thats what I meant

subtle oyster
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are the koth's fucked?

tough rock
subtle oyster
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ye

tough rock
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Since launch

subtle oyster
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):

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Was gonna say I wanted to watch you guys while I work on a work project for a bit

kindred osprey
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DROPPPPP

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Sorry
Can't stream

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NOOOOOOO
I WAS ROBBED

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Hate Raiden.
Lmao

tough rock
kindred osprey
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LMAO

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The double armor

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Shao Can't do anything against Raiden
Lmao

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No mids and his overhead or low are too slow

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Let's see a proper low in action

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AWWWWWW
Rep was bullied

tough rock
kindred osprey
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Sarrena bar eating really makes a difference

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DROPPPPPPPPP

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Last one

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I need to sleep
Lmao

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Didn't even need the FB
Wasted

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GGs!!!!!!

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Thank you so much for the games
Lotta fun

wind hedge
kindred osprey
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Ok...
That looks cool
I MIGHT try to learn Tanya

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Anyone playing rn?

wind hedge
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Tanya is a neat character I enjoy her but she is fairly one note. Also she works best with Goro

kindred osprey
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My only reason to be interested in her is because she is best buds with Mileena
LMFAO

wind hedge
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Which is maximum unfortunate

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Tanya has the long weapon but she's not whip from KOF or Axl from GGST

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So like eh

kindred osprey
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More like Billy tbh

wind hedge
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And I couldn't care less unfortunately. So it is unfortunate

kindred osprey
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I might take a look and try to learn her later

wind hedge
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I like her but would rather not play her

tough rock
kindred osprey
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LMFAO

tough rock
wind hedge
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Reading this Shang guide. How do you even enforce S1 stagger pressure?

kindred osprey
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Ok
So Tyler
Gimme Tanya bnbs

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And @north mango
Gimme the Kitana corner infinite unblockable setup
I wanna abuse people online

wind hedge
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Tanya BnBs are just do string into drill

kindred osprey
# wind hedge Reading this Shang guide. How do you even enforce S1 stagger pressure?

Idk specifically about Shang
But for Mileena, you have to use 12 and F4 often, cuz these are overheads, making your opponents afraid of blocking low
Then, when you press just St. 1, they'll be blocking high and that's +5 for Mileena, meaning the pressure can continue and she can do smt like St 1, St 1, St1, and when they try to duck, you do F1 cuz that's the mid

kindred osprey
wind hedge
kindred osprey
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Rlx, no rush

wind hedge
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Kameo call like Goro or Scorp

kindred osprey
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Am labbing...

wind hedge
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Whatever her 2 into staff grab is. Into spin kicks or another drill

kindred osprey
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Ok!
30%
Thxxxxx

wind hedge
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And you can do the same thing with EX

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I'll show you the proper ender when I get home

north mango
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Recommended combos afterwards:

  • Meterless:
    B24 DB1B for another loop
    B24 DB1B, JK, 4 DF2
  • 1 bar:
    3 DB3 EX, B24 DB1B for another loop
    3 DB3 EX, B24 DB1B, J34
  • 2 bar:
    3 DB3 EX, B24 DB1B, BF1B EX, J34
kindred osprey
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Who wants to test my Tanya?

wind hedge
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Did you do S3 into drill for the ender?

kindred osprey
kindred osprey
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Got me to 300 on optimal starter and like 280 from St. 3 into Drill

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I also tried doing j. 124, air fireball
Works and the dmg is almost the same
But I think oki is worse
And a bit less dmg

north mango
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But tbh there are worse things left intact in the game so...InoPlan

kindred osprey
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Yeah, prob won't get nerfed
And it's not like the dmg is great

wind hedge
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I gotta eat breakfast then I'm gonna see what my numbers are

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I know with scorpion she got a decent amount of damage but it was 293 since it was simple and like took 4 moves

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Really all it was. Was her mid string, drill Scorp call, and that one air string that leads to HKD

kindred osprey
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Honestly
I feel like she might not need much after that
Her neutral seems good

wind hedge
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Her neutral is odd as hell

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Because most of her dangerous tools are highs at the mid range

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But she can yolo drill into Goro to catch you ducking

kindred osprey
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Thxxxxxx
Now I just need to get it consistent
Lmao

north mango
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I wanna let you know some more stuff tho

kindred osprey
wind hedge
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I think it's stupid, because why the hell

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But it works for some reason

north mango
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  • It is gonna break every armor except Ashrah's
  • Only way to avoid it is delay getup, but even then Kitana can in turn simply throw later
  • If the armor is broken, the following combo will deal unscaled damage (and they won't have enough meter to break it)
kindred osprey
north mango
kindred osprey
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Yeah, she does seem too honest
You opened my eyes to her dirt

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Now I am inspired to take her further

wind hedge
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Honestly this video is everything I dislike about Tanya

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kindred osprey
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I do have way too many chars rn tho

wind hedge
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See how many times she's does that spin kick or drill it's just a bit stupid

kindred osprey
wind hedge
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Yeah because she's a diseased crackhead. Tanya isn't

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Or rather I'm not a fan of the character playing that way. Not my style

north mango
kindred osprey
kindred osprey
wind hedge
north mango
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But I agree, it is pretty situational

kindred osprey
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Oh shit
But I need Sonya for the combos

wind hedge
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For what combos?

kindred osprey
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Kitana combos
I learned some new ones with Sonya

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Tanya I labbed Goro
I know Scorp could probably do more dmg
But I need yolo safety

north mango
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Hmm Sonya is good for combos, but nothing else

north mango
kindred osprey
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And she recharges kinda fast
And her grab does fucking 140

north mango
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Ok that makes sense lol

kindred osprey
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Sonya isn't really bad, just...
Not exactly great either

north mango
kindred osprey
north mango
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That's her problem lol

north mango
kindred osprey
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Exactly
For pressure you'd go for Lao
For combos Scorp

north mango
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But Frost > Goro for me when it comes to Kitana

kindred osprey
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I like safe armor reversals

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I do wish I played more Frost tho
I like her A LOT

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I've been using Frost with Sindel only
And Smoke

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Reptile doesn't really need her anymore
But he could use her

north mango
north mango
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In a sense he is perfectly capable on his own

kindred osprey
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He needed dmg before the buffs last patch
Now he can just have QOL stuff

north mango
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Maybe Tremor will help him

kindred osprey
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Motaro has been doing an amazing job with Reptile

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The TP combos are optimal, and he helps A LOT with the zoning

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Also saves me sometimes from my yolo full screen slides

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And Rep has a safe way to set up turret, so I think that's great synergy there

wind hedge
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Yeah Tanya really only hits 298-345 between no bar and one bar

kindred osprey
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And that's ok, like...
She has range and the yolo

wind hedge
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Alright, do people think a patch is gonna happen with Omni Man or nah?

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Since MK tom brady put out a video. But the second he said they should buff reptile I just stopped watching

kindred osprey
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Buff Reptile.
He needs more

wind hedge
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Nah I just immediately heard that and had no interest in what he has to say

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Let him move after he throws out that ball? Make his armored low faster? Immediately not interested

kindred osprey
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Wow
Ok, those are a bit too much
I think Reptile just needs his overhead to charge a bit faster
And maybe a bit faster or longer reaching F2

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Or more plus frames
He could use those

subtle oyster
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MKTomBrady is washed up and isn’t a top tier player anymore

kindred osprey
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I do think Reptile should have at least one special that's safe on block
Slow Ball maybe?
There is a gap there from most of his strings

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They could make it safe
Not even plus
Just safe

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Or acid spit
That shit isn't even useful at all without Motaro

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Make it safe on block

subtle oyster
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Idk why a projectile should be safe tho

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But he probably needs something

kindred osprey
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If there is a gap there, I don't see why not
Sonya's is, Motaro and Lao also are

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Slow ball has a gap that can be interrupted, so like...
Why not make it safe?

wind hedge
kindred osprey
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Is she safe on projectile?

subtle oyster
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Sonya and Motaro are Kameos

wind hedge
subtle oyster
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If you EX it

wind hedge
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Or it's zero I always forget

subtle oyster
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0

wind hedge
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Damn even better than I thought

kindred osprey
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Noone has a safe projectile without kameos?

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Or Ex

subtle oyster
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Reptile shouldn’t get a safe meterless launcher in your face like that

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I think they need to buff other parts of him

kindred osprey
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I mean, he always had it
It's like his signature move
Like Ice ball for Sub and Spear for Scorp

subtle oyster
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The utility is different in this game

kindred osprey
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But I do agree now that you said it
It launches

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But Acid Spit?
That should be safe

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It literally leads to nothing without Motaro

wind hedge
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How do you think Nitara players feel?

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It's also her reversal and it's a high

kindred osprey
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Actually
Even better
Just make his full string safe
F211 or F311
Just increase pushback a little

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Leads to nothing without Scorp

kindred osprey
wind hedge
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It's just one of them things Luna. Just a not amazing move that attaches to the kit

kindred osprey
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Buff Nitara
Make it a mid at least, and let her pressure from it on hit

wind hedge
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Well she gets a "50/50" from it some people say. Low mid grab or overhead

kindred osprey
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Ah
She does?
Ok, less worse

wind hedge
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Because it doesn't push people back as far as Reptiles

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But I just wish the EX was a mid

kindred osprey
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Reptile gets nothing from it
Only F3, which is a high and minus
Safe, but minus

subtle oyster
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Reptile relies too much on gimmicks imo. He’s not complete

wind hedge
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But it has more range than Nitara's though

subtle oyster
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He’s a shittier smoke

kindred osprey
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If he had a reliable overhead, would be much better

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Even uncharged, B2 is too slow

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And no reach

wind hedge
kindred osprey
wind hedge
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If it's faster than 28 frames I'm gonna bring up Nitara once again

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That shit is so slow

subtle oyster
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Buff Johnny

tough rock
subtle oyster
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His mid should be an unblockable

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Make Lao Hat plus 10 on block

subtle oyster
tough rock
subtle oyster
wind hedge
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Honestly, I fucking hate the character. But I heard of a neat thing for sub. Where his overhead launcher should be 2 inputs. So you can only get the overhead or get it and the launch

kindred osprey
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Would help him a lot if the first hit only was safe

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He can use a Kameo or whatever to cancel the first hit tho

tough rock
# subtle oyster Make Lao Hat plus 10 on block

Well since we're making everyone SS + tier...

Raiden:
B2 +5 on block
Wakeup teleport invulnerable
F4 now has the same range as Reptile B3

Geras
F1 is 9 frames
Thanos Snap now needs only 1 clock. Combo reset needs 3
Adds Quick Sand from MK11

subtle oyster
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Never wanna see quick sands again

wind hedge
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Oh dude let's give Nitara 3 air dashes and only after that it would cost meter

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Also give her a command grab that reverses the opponents controls

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And her passive after blocking long enough bats show up and drain health healing Nitara

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I think these are balanced changes

subtle oyster
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Okay but in all seriousness make Sindel’s back 2, 1 or 2 frames faster startup and get a better hitbox for anti airs on her stand 1 or stand 2

tough rock
wind hedge
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No joke, I think EX spikes should launch from young shang. To give him a proper anti air.

subtle oyster
tough rock
subtle oyster
tough rock
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Giving you a different one just to be evil

kindred osprey
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Skarlet
But MK9 gameplay

subtle oyster
tough rock
subtle oyster
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I’m not sure if I want mk9 Skarlet or a trap/setup character similar to 11 but different

tough rock
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I straight up don't remember how Skarlet played in mK9

subtle oyster
wind hedge
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What terrible mids are he talking about? Or are my characters just exempt for that

subtle oyster
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subtle oyster
wind hedge
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Hm I never played that one or at least never payed attention to them

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Unfortunate I suppose

subtle oyster
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In general mids are pretty slow in this game. The one guy who has a good mid is Johnny and everyone hates him

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Liu has pretty good mids and people hate those too

tough rock
subtle oyster
tough rock
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And I'm glad only Johnny has one in MK1

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Because Jax frame trapping you with F3 KB was just not fun

subtle oyster
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I don’t see anything wrong with fast mids. They just beat poke mash is all

tough rock
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That and as Kotal it was a pain in the ass to hit people using them

subtle oyster
tough rock
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Absolutely hated the throw ones with a passion

subtle oyster
wind hedge
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What a horrendous character

tough rock
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@kindred osprey i think i just played against trainee of yours

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Mileena scorp in KL that just yoloed everywhere

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And got destroyed for it

tough rock
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Made a decision to grind KL to Master rank then call it

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I want that evil looking Kombat kard

subtle oyster
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Oh my god Koisy made it to Elder God without losing

tough rock
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I'm one win away from Master rank and my wife comes home early

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Ebb and flow ruined

wind hedge
tough rock
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Kameo variations

tough rock
wind hedge
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The WiFi filter

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The amount of complaints about SF ranked and people denying them matches because they're on WiFi

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It's a survey to see what people want in these upcoming updates

tough rock
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My to do list would be,

1.Crossplay
2. KL WiFi filter
3. Ranked set switch
4. Ping filter

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I'll fight online wifi warriors in kasual most days but if I am forced to fight another 200 ping Mileena, Smoke or literally anyone in a FT3 my desire to play drops per round

wind hedge
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I feel that

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I'm gonna hopefully try out ranked pretty regularly next season. I just want rewards for the characters I play

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I actually just want a cool skin for Shang

tough rock
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Wife said she wants to watch The Boys. Neither of us have seen it and she didn't make the 1st 10 minutes of the first episode

wind hedge
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Ah was that the incident?

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With dude's girlfriend?

tough rock
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Yep

wind hedge
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Yeah that sounds about right

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I want to show it to my friend but I think there's a few parts she really wouldn't enjoy watching

wind hedge
tough rock
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Sindel about to catch the Sub Zero kneecap nerf

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@subtle oyster

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't really know what cancel advantage is

wind hedge
wind hedge
vague creek
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I didn't even know assists had types

kindred osprey
vague creek
wind hedge
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If any of y'all ever fight a God shang tell me the tech if he beats you

kindred osprey
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Anyone free to play rn?

wind hedge
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Sad, I need to witness some great shang gameplay. One of the tricks I've seen it stagger but like just walk forward and then press to catch a D1

wind hedge
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Just @ me whenever

kindred osprey
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Let me lose this

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I am SO SO SALTY RN

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AHHHHHHHHHHH

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Fuck Scorpion

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Lost 2-3

kindred osprey
wind hedge
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Alright I might not have super long time to play

kindred osprey
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It's fine
Just take me out of KL

tough rock
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@kindred osprey I'll be down in like 15 minutes

kindred osprey
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LMFAO

wind hedge
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What's wrong with KL Luna?

kindred osprey
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Fuck Scorpion
It's all I have to say

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That fucking full screen low
And the spear man

wind hedge
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Says as she has 2 full screen lows

kindred osprey
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LMFAOOOOOO

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It's not safe for Sub

wind hedge
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Man my shang really can't do anything here

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I really hate sub

kindred osprey
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He is better than my Sub
I am just abusing lows

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And overheads

wind hedge
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I think he's gotta be the most annoying character

wind hedge
kindred osprey
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Scorp is worse imo

wind hedge
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Sub has what feels like everything that's not damage

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I don't think as long as I live I'll ever learn how to beat him

kindred osprey
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DROP

wind hedge
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Man this shit is literally king all over again

kindred osprey
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I have to say
Idk what to do

wind hedge
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I might migrate to KOF sooner than I thought

kindred osprey
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Shit

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You got past the zoning...

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Shit...

wind hedge
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I don't feel like I did

kindred osprey
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Sht
Good one

tough rock
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I have reached Master rank in KL

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Even 3-0 a Johnny to get there

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@kindred osprey @wind hedge still playing?

kindred osprey
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We are!!!!
Koth?

wind hedge
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You wanna make a room?

tough rock
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Yeah

kindred osprey
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Sindel isn't doing REALLY well

wind hedge
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My professional opinion is Sindel needs less range

kindred osprey
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I am happy tho
Almost got your Liu

wind hedge
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That hair normal feels it reaches the end of the earth

kindred osprey
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GORO

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Lmfao
Snake's favorite

wind hedge
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One sec, I entered afk brb

kindred osprey
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Man
Raiden never stops
Those lows and that overheaf

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At least when Reptile does the low, his turn ends

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Random likes Li Mei

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Yo
How to do 3 flame skulls?
Only did 2 when I played Shang

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Long leg

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The Shang doing WORK
You make me wanna learn him

wind hedge
kindred osprey
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LMFAO
I DON'T READ

wind hedge
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Luna I'm gonna take away your controller until you learn how to read

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D4 just happens to be a war crime

kindred osprey
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Nah
I hate wasting neurons

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LMFAOOOOOOOO

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I never laughed so hard in a match

wind hedge
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I don't think I did a single combo that time. My B

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Go spikes

kindred osprey
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SPIKES
Overhead
Spikes
Overhead
Overhead
Overhead
SPIKESSSSSSSS
Overhead

wind hedge
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Beat me up gotta eat

kindred osprey
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You just convinced me
I'll lab Shang on my brother's account later
And if I learn some combos, I'll buy him

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WOOHOOO

wind hedge
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Done

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I'm fed and dehydrated

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Let's go

kindred osprey
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No water?

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Tylerrrrrr
Gimme the Shang bnbs
I'll try to learn him

tough rock
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TIL Dive kick combos into a throw

wind hedge
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When I tell you. Sub has a list of the most annoying moves

tough rock
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Its just really klone

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It wasn't in MK11 so anyone who hadn't played an earlier MK game have no idea about the shenanigans

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He used to be able to yeet the klone full screen

wind hedge
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Long D1, A weirdly slow dive kick, klone, his long F1 string? Whichever one he slides with. And just weirdly amazing strike throw

kindred osprey
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LMFAO

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HAPPY

tough rock
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Man I can't wait til they buff Sub

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Not even his damage

kindred osprey
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Nooooooo
Buff Reptile

tough rock
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Just general gap removal

kindred osprey
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I haven't even tried Tanya

wind hedge
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Don't a lot of characters have gaps?

tough rock
tough rock
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Every other characters gaps are between the 2nd and 3rd hit or the last two hits

kindred osprey
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OH YESSSSSSS

wind hedge
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Man, Luna's day ones are much better than my characters

tough rock
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Happy Spiral Arrow noises

kindred osprey
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SPAIROARO

tough rock
kindred osprey
tough rock
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Don't remember equipping JCVD

kindred osprey
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Tanya has RANGE
And the uolo

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Sub does 130 dmg?

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Wtf

tough rock
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Yep

kindred osprey
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Wow
Thought it was 120

tough rock
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Default Kameo is 120

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Sonya does 140

kindred osprey
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Goro only 110...
Buff Goro.

wind hedge
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Default has got to be 110. I swear most do 110

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Jax no meter does 110

tough rock
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Normal back throws is 11

wind hedge
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Most forward ones are 110

kindred osprey
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Omg
I love Shang

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Johnny is a war crime

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Yo
Last ones for me

wind hedge
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Man, perhaps I got to KOF this weekend

tough rock
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For the sake of the game I hope Johnny gets something changed when Omni man drops

wind hedge
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Let me actually start the download

kindred osprey
wind hedge
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I hate Johnny a decent bit less than I do Sub

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I hate raiden a LOT MORE than Johnny

kindred osprey
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Me too.

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YUSSSSSSS

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Onaga is MK13 villain

wind hedge
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Oh yeah, I'm done with this game for the weekend

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Forgot, respectfully. How not stupid my characters are

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GGs

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I still don't get why the hell Rekio has DNF duel normals

kindred osprey
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GGs!!!!!

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Last one for me

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QUITALITY

tough rock
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Yeah the match just straight up ended for me

kindred osprey
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Lmfao
It's fine
GGs!!!!

tough rock
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Ggs

wind hedge
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As I put this game down. I really want to know why do the characters I pick feel so weirdly weak

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Compared to this damn cast

tough rock
wind hedge
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I know my entire move list

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It's just I never know how to use

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I get given this whole tool box and just feel lost in everything that's not "Oh it's a fireball"

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Or like anti air

kindred osprey
#

My problem is the same as Kof and SF, I feel...
Approach
I don't know how to

tough rock
wind hedge
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Bed is negative

tough rock
wind hedge
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Punishable

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Shit is like -22

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People duck a lot so there's no point in using high strings at all

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Like his S1 is great stagger pressure but it really doesn't mean much

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His S2 is actually a great combo starter, but lacks range and is a high

tough rock
wind hedge
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Old fireballs are good, but like people move pretty consistently so I can't use them that effectively

wind hedge
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I'll lab it when I feel I feel like hoping on the game.

But I'd imagine Nitara, Sub, Liu, Raiden, Mileena, maybe Smoke etc can punish something -14

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Like if they have a fast moving special they punish it.

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Hell step one is seeing what everything my character does for like 10-30 minutes. And then attempt to brain Storm what I can do with this tool box. Normally it's not much

tough rock
#

Mileena ball can't, Liu flying kick can't,

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Actually I take it back Sub can't punish EX bed

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Its gonna take god tier timing for anyone except Johnny to punish EX bed

wind hedge
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When my power comes back I'll see.

tough rock
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Nitara literally has 1 frame to input and punish EX Bed

wind hedge
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Because -14 is such a massive number

tough rock
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Its two less frames than Geras F44 and has more pushback than Geras

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So its 95% safe

wind hedge
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I don't base my stuff much off of if it's is a computer only thing. Since testing shit with D1s. If it punishes it's normally not worth it.

tough rock
#

I really thing Johnny is the only character that can punish EX bed

wind hedge
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95% safe too me. Doesn't feel safe in this game. At least for spending one entire bar when I'm probably really close to getting comboed

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Most of his strings are safe to begin with I'm thinking right.

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At least the ones I use, B2, S1,F4 and S2 I'm almost positive they all are safe

tough rock
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Li Mei charging knee, Sub Slide, Mileena ball, arw all 14 frames and if you hold down you can crouch under Liu flying kick

wind hedge
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Pressure is something I can lab at least. Just basic ish math. It's the usefulness of these things in neutral and how to even enforce my pressure. This is common FGs sense I can't bring to this game it feels

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Like when you fight me with Sub you get in for free it feels like. I don't know how to stop that without just staying planted and only blocking. Therefore removing about most of neutral. With both Liu and Shang. That leaves me with just having to block everything out.

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Honestly I think I'm running out of gas to improve

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Or burning out. One of the 2

kindred osprey
#

SHANG IS SO FUN

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I just got his 420 bnb consistent

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With Sareena tho

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Wow
They really be charging 8 fucking dollars for Shang?

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Man, a character is never more than 6
Kof sells 3 for 15

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LMFAO

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Bought him

tough rock
#

@subtle oyster so much MK11 PTSD in 90 seconds

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Incredibly accurate though

tough rock
wind hedge
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@subtle oyster @tough rock

https://vxtwitter.com/R1ps_Arena/status/1720918409351762065?t=SxDjSFBGewKkjhLaaf03GQ&s=19

vxTwitter
I'd like to get some community feedback. Today I was put in a situation where I had to decide if this is allowed or if we ban this during our 5k Grandfinals. Since this doesnt seem intended i made the decision to… 💖 37
R1p‘s Arena (@R1ps_Arena)

I'd like to get some community feedback. Today I was put in a situation where I had to decide if this is allowed or if we ban this during our 5k Grandfinals. Since this doesnt seem intended i made the decision to…

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▶ Play video
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I wonder if Jax is gonna get changed

subtle oyster
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To ban a player for doing it seems kinda wrong

tough rock
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Ban em all. You don't hit these guaranteed resets by accident and you have to actively search and use them.

wind hedge
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https://vxtwitter.com/Tweakk_FGC/status/1721120330096271457?t=J8I4lwayBS5gnKa5pewPCA&s=19

vxTwitter
All I can say is, what do you expect when you put an unblockable launching ambush in the game lol. This was always bound to become an issue eventually and we all knew it 【QRT of R1p‘s Arena (@R1ps_Arena):】 'I'd li… 💖 9
Tweak (@Tweakk_FGC)

All I can say is, what do you expect when you put an unblockable launching ambush in the game lol. This was always bound to become an issue eventually and we all knew it

【QRT of R1p‘s Arena (@R1ps_Arena):】
'I'd li…

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▶ Play video
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Like to me it's the fact that it took this long for someone to use it

subtle oyster
wind hedge
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And if it's a Sindel only thing. Then that's even weirder. Since a lot of people think it shouldn't be unblockable.

tough rock
subtle oyster
#

It’s a setup exactly how he was designed. It’s an unblockable setup that’s just designed poorly

wind hedge
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I saw that both Kitana and Tanya can do it. But only at the very begining of a combo

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I guess Sindel is dangerous because she can do it later in the game

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Combo*

wind hedge
#

Is flawless blocking the only way out for the Kenshi player here?

remote mountain
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but it looks like lao messed his timings up a bit so he could neutral duck the beginning part of 121 since its a high

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with the right timing he can jail it tho

wind hedge
tough rock
tough rock
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Dev interview about Omni Man

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kindred osprey
kindred osprey
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LMFAO

subtle oyster
wind hedge
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Sonic out here just doing shit with all the characters I do not play.

kindred osprey
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Who's gonna be on in 40min?

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I need to test my new Shang Tsung

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Ok
Why is Shang not top tier?
He's got good zoning, good dmg, somewhat good mids, D3 is a war crime

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All he doesn't have is an easy way to play him

wind hedge
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If you ask me. It's because the top tiers do it mostly better than he does. Minus like Johnny and Ashrah

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Because they do different things really stupid

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Kitana, Liu, and Lao

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Are the ones I compare to him

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He does about everything they do, but doesn't lean in any specific way.

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Lao is closer to like rush down and also doesn't take a high school diploma to play. While he does do less damage, I think he has a much easier way of opening them up.

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Liu is close to Shang but definitely better mids and a fireball that breaks fireballs. And stupid good stagger pressure. Bonus points because he has a proper anti air instead of spikes for air moves that aren't dive kicks

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And Kitana is more of the zoner with different arcs for her fans and really good buttons and whiff punishing. While also having pretty good damage.

tough rock
wind hedge
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Or what snake said

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He summed that shit up real fast

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If just having stuff made characters good the KOF tier list would put Robert at S instead of like Iori

subtle oyster
kindred osprey
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Anyone on rn?

vague creek
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Am I the only one who thinks the scorpion invasion skins are 90% garbage

subtle oyster
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No

kindred osprey
#

Yes.
They are AT LEAST 95% garbage

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Ok, pinging again
@MK Matchmaking
@wind hedge @tough rock

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@subtle oyster @vague creek
Don't feel excluded

vague creek
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And that's probably because he's got no face tattoos

kindred osprey
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True
Those tattoos are really weird

wind hedge
tough rock
kindred osprey
kindred osprey
wind hedge
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No

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Gone back to KOF and am fighting the urge to not say I'm bad at fighting games

tough rock
tough rock
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@kindred osprey wanna play?

kindred osprey
#

Creating room

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I honestly didn't think B12 was punishable

tough rock
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Its like-14 or something in young form

kindred osprey
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OVERHEAD

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Oh shit

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I have no idea how to play Raiden

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I'm learning

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CHIP

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Ohhhhh
Thought I could whiff punish

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I'm still getting used to having two movesets

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Oh shit
It worked

tough rock
#

I don't get how I got thrown out of every single D1

kindred osprey
#

Wow

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I didn't even see D1s

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Aw

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I see raw supermans incoming...

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How did that miss?

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Lmfao

tough rock
#

This game refuses to let me use a breaker

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Also I simply can't play a kameo that lowers my health

kindred osprey
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I noticed
I was like "FUUUUUCKKKKKK HE RECOVERED IN TIME"

tough rock
#

I spammed that input too

kindred osprey
#

That shit hit SO high

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Isn't that his klassic fatality?

tough rock
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Not really

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His OG fatality he just zapped your head off

kindred osprey
#

AH
True

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B12 looks SO PLUS
Why is it punishable?

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Lmfao

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That shit is so slwo

tough rock
#

@kindred osprey last one for me

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Wife came home

kindred osprey
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Ok!

tough rock
#

Ggs

kindred osprey
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Yeah
Shang isn't match for Raiden yet

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GGs!!!!!

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Super fun games
I am happy with Shang either way

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Still getting used to him tbh

tough rock
#

If these leaked patchnotes ive seen are real, you may need a new kameo with Shang

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I kinda doubt it because I've never heard of a leaked patch before

kindred osprey
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I mean, Frost and Sub do exactly the same I'm using Sareena for

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@tough rock
Do that to me in a match

tough rock
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And I refuse to use meta kameos so I won't use Lao

kindred osprey
#

Motaro should do the same

kindred osprey
#

I hate Scorpion SO BAD

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Fuck Scorpion

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There just isn't a more annoying character than Scorpion
Omfg

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Not even Johnny is THAT bad

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Raiden is...
I hate Raiden
But Scorpion is getting there

wind hedge
#

Can't wait to see this

tough rock
wind hedge
#

Scorpion counters your playstyle pretty hard I would assume Luna

kindred osprey
#

He is just annoying af
Looping combos and that fucking Spears

wind hedge
#

I'd say don't let him hit you

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The "whole thing" is he really has trouble opening people up

kindred osprey
#

That Spear has no right being that fast

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Ice Ball isn't

wind hedge
#

Ask the scorpion player

subtle oyster
#

The spear is really fucking fast this game lol

kindred osprey
# subtle oyster What is annoying you about him?

The fast af spear. I jump from FULL SCREEN to do an air fireball or whatever
And the fucking thing catches me and full comboes.
But then I think: "Ah, I'll just duck it."
Nope. He also has a nearly full screen low.

And that mid knee attack
Not only it staggers, but the fuck also launches into big combo.

#

ALSO
That fucking spinning scythe attack that does more chip than Baraka and Raiden together
Along with Sektor or smt, that shit is nuts

wind hedge
#

Fun fact if you stand block it you can punish that

kindred osprey
#

I also just don't really like Kuai Liang

kindred osprey
wind hedge
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I think it's like minus -9

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The spinning

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You take more push back crouch blocking

kindred osprey
#

Hm...
Interesting
Very interesting

wind hedge
#

There's a few things like that I ended up figuring out

kindred osprey
#

I have no idea what Shang can do
But Mileena probably ball rolls that

wind hedge
#

Or the spin

kindred osprey
#

Also... I think I can punish that on block
But I was talking about the spin

wind hedge
#

Nah you can probably just jab combo him if you're close enough

kindred osprey
#

Oh, true

subtle oyster
#

You don’t wanna be full screen chucking fireballs. Many characters can punish his super long sweep

kindred osprey
#

His 2 range is bigger than any Shang button

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I honestly might just learn how to play Scorpion and morph into him whenever I fight him as Shang.

subtle oyster
#

Shang might struggle in this mu

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He’s a counter zoner

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And you’re a zoner

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Who’s your kameo?

kindred osprey
#

OH
I wanted to comment
Felt REALLY proud of what I did today

Was fighting an Ashrah
Won 3-2
But the last match, I won both rounds by beating them with Ashrah as well
LMFAO

kindred osprey
subtle oyster
#

So Ashrah was winning until Ashrah won it for you

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Pick Lao for Scorp mu

kindred osprey
#

The problem with my Shang is...
I just cannot transform mid combo yet
Don't have the execution yet

subtle oyster
#

Stealing the other persons soul and beating their ass with their own character is the best feeling in all of fighting games

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Old Shang gonna have to carry in this mu imo

kindred osprey
kindred osprey
#

Yo
Air down fireball is oppressive af

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People don't know how to deal with it

wind hedge
#

It's his regular fireball but just from the air

kindred osprey
#

Nah nah
The Old Shang one

wind hedge
#

Yean

kindred osprey
#

Have you tried spamming it?
Back jump fireball

wind hedge
#

It's his regular fireball isn't it unless you EX it

kindred osprey
#

It hits.
Every. Time.

wind hedge
#

Not a fan of over using those fireballs

kindred osprey
#

Nah bro
Spam that shit

wind hedge
#

As in like, they feel very punishable

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I'm talking like I'm gonna be on the game soon

kindred osprey
#

You are.
Tomorrow.
Shang mirrors with me

#

Shang/Shujinko mirrors.

wind hedge
#

No

#

I pass on MK

subtle oyster
kindred osprey
#

I'll go to Kof beat you up.

wind hedge
# subtle oyster Y

2 reasons, New KOF character next week I'm excited. Then I got tired of losing hard in MK flavor. So not I'm losing harder in KOF

kindred osprey
#

Go to SF for now

subtle oyster
wind hedge
#

That's how it felt, working on that mindset somewhat. But it felt I lost quite often very one sided.

kindred osprey
#

In Kof, you can feel 3 sided

wind hedge
#

Yeah, but I want to enter a tournament for KOF still

kindred osprey
#

Ohhhhhh
Good luck!

wind hedge
#

Even if I am pretty unsure about my skill there

kindred osprey
#

I'm thinking about TNS...
There is a SA one for MK

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Idk if Kof and SF do too

wind hedge
#

But MK felt like I was tackling something I didn't and don't understand

kindred osprey
#

Yoooooo
New season today or tmw?

tough rock
#

||Noob and Male Chameleon|| 99% confirmed

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Also MK1 has already sold almost 3 million copies

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With 3-4 years support you know who that means will be dlc @subtle oyster

wind hedge
#

If the new season is tomorrow I probably won't be there since Gran Blue beta starts tomorrow as well

tough rock
wind hedge
tough rock
wind hedge
#

Anime SF

#

That's what I heard and I kind of see it

#

Only "negative" depends on the person. I see is that it's all one button specials even though you can do the inputs

#

They just wanted to make it as accessible as possible

subtle oyster
#

Custom intros

#

Some of these had me rolling

tough rock
subtle oyster
tough rock
#

Frost also getting Kung Lao rejected was great too

subtle oyster
tough rock
#

Mileena roasting Lao, Goro being clueless, the 4 Lao's and the neck snap reference.

Only thing missing was a Liu Kang and Raiden intro

subtle oyster
tough rock
#

Sindel playing the disappointed mother card also

#

Sonya not knowing Chinese

subtle oyster
#

This shit is hilarious

subtle oyster
#

Omni man has a full screen instant overhead lmao

#

And an advancing mid

#

Multiple meterless launchers

#

Great damage

#

His viltrumite stance makes him immune to both projectiles and attacks

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And gets air dash movement

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And air teleport

#

We hath found the pay to win character

#

You can change tremor variations mid fight

#

Tremor crystalline armor let’s you absorb attacks and let you punish anything

tough rock
pulsar pike
#

Tremor’s interesting cause on paper a lot of stuff is busted, but normally it’s all summon assists which is pretty bad, but he can make any move an ambush assist by switching variations during it which is busted, but doing so costs the full assist meter which is pretty bad.

Will have to see how quick his stuff recharges.

subtle oyster
tough rock
#

Anyone trying to play MK sometime today?

subtle oyster
#

I’m gonna wait until tomorrow

tough rock
#

I didn't watch the cast, did they hint at another balance patch dropping tomorrow or just a small Omni Man one?

subtle oyster
#

I don’t think they’re dropping balance patch just releasing Omni man

tough rock
#

Damn

subtle oyster
#

It doesn’t really need one

#

I’d rather them wait

tough rock
#

I just want Sub to not suck

subtle oyster
#

Is he stupid

tough rock
wind hedge
#

Look

#

Does anyone else think that Tanya is the same thing?

#

Or has rather

#

I don't understand why people act like this is the worst thing

#

I get it does it to projectiles. If it doesn't cost EX. That's one thing

subtle oyster
#

People freak out about everything

wind hedge
#

Alright I'm not insane

wind hedge
kindred osprey
vague creek
#

I think I'm just gonna cave in and use sub with sareena

vague creek
#

Both low tier

#

Both bad for very different reasons

#

Also someone may need to train me if they can

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Because for whatever reason, MK is the only FG I play that I cannot play decently

#

The fact that I can play games like SF, Tekken, GG, DnF, etc etc. To an average to above average level at least but play absolutely dogshit in NRS bothers me so much lmao

kindred osprey
#

If you wanna play a Ninja tho, I'd say Reptile and Smoke are the best

vague creek
#

It's nothing character specific. I can't do simple shit like hit confirms

kindred osprey
#

Says the Reptile main
LMFAO

vague creek
#

Like I can't do F12 into deadly vapours consistently. Which is wild to me because I can do really frame perfect stuff in SF...

#

Boom loops, Perfect Knuckle, Perfect TB? Easy

kindred osprey
vague creek
#

Stupid ass string into special, can't do shit

vague creek
#

Like I don't wanna do an unsafe special if they blocked it

kindred osprey
#

You play on pad right?
Not using the analog at all helps me a lot doing specials in MK

vague creek
#

Yeah I don't use analog for any FGs except platform ones

#

I also turned on advanced inputs because I'm more familiar with them over the simply MK system

#

Also maybe MK inputs are really precise? Like I can't afford to either mash or correct myself mid string like other FGs

#

Idk if any shortcuts exist either

wind hedge
#

Advanced inputs are not the way

#

It's significantly easier to use the regular system even it's weird to get used to

vague creek
#

Also another weird thing I just can't seem to do. F12 deadly vapours EX > F12 Deadly vapours EX

#

The second one simply won't come out and I can't tell why

kindred osprey
#

Just takes time getting used to doing the specials from strings tbh
I hated when I started
Doing pretty better now

#

AH
Have you deactivated the Release Check?

#

Helps A LOT

vague creek
wind hedge
#

You never played a charged character?

vague creek
#

Nope

#

Hate them

#

Half circles, full circles, DP motions, are all fine with me

wind hedge
#

Hm, I'd say to do your best to just get used to it. Luna makes the point you just gotta be fast.

vague creek
wind hedge
#

It's true

#

It's way faster to only do back forward than a half circle

vague creek
#

I mean I'm usually fine in training mode. But the second I'm in the match and I do land a F12 I can't seem to get the special off consistently

wind hedge
#

Yeah, hell I jump trying to throw fireball

kindred osprey
vague creek
#

It would be fine if it was just an occasional error but it happens often

#

Might just be a precision thing because I do have a habit of just rolling my fat thumbs over my controller lmao

#

It hasn't been a problem in any other FG but NRS games be punishing me for it

wind hedge
kindred osprey
#

Idk what Deadly Vapors is, but like
Press F12, and if you see it hitting you can press the special
Like, buffer the F12 and confirm the special

wind hedge
#

I'd really say just try practicing it more in like casuals or friend matches

#

Even though I know you're on PC so I don't know how it is.

vague creek
vague creek
#

We've played before Tyler lmao

wind hedge
#

We played in SF

vague creek
#

Yeah SF

wind hedge
#

That has crossplay. I thought you were on PC

vague creek
#

No no, I'm on PS

#

I was in the KoH once for this game while you were there

#

Never got to play you because I couldn't win shit lmao

wind hedge
#

Oh, right.

#

I have the memory of a goldfish with memory issues

#

We should play at some point

vague creek
#

Yeah probably

#

I keep playing my one friend who's really good and getting my ass beat

#

He's getting revenge for what I did to him in DnF

tough rock
vague creek
#

But I'm sure other characters do it but I wouldn't be able to

kindred osprey
#

Wtf even is Vapors

vague creek
#

It tracks and freezes the ground

wind hedge
#

Oh yeah that move

vague creek
#

Very common meter extender for sub as it leads to a B2

tough rock
vague creek
#

Atrocious scaling tho

tough rock
#

One of the many beta casualties

vague creek
#

RIP

#

I assume playing sub isn't helping my experience either

#

But I need to learn one of the basic ninjas of the game and I usually pick sub

#

And apparently scorpion isn't doing much better

kindred osprey
#

The Feet Freeze?

#

BF2?

vague creek
#

Yeah

#

Although I think it's BF3

wind hedge
kindred osprey
#

OH
Ok

tough rock
vague creek
#

I love sub's gameplay because I like my defensive characters

#

And the damage doesn't bother me as much (although it sucks)

#

It's the klone that hurts

#

None of this matters if I can't do simple shit anyway 😭

kindred osprey
#

You will
MK takes A LOT of time getting used to
Took me much more than Kof and even Melty

wind hedge
#

Even Melty? Ain't that just anime game but shield button?

vague creek
#

KoF was definitely too hard for me

kindred osprey
wind hedge
#

Ah that'll do it.

kindred osprey
#

I went from SF directly to Melty
Lmao

wind hedge
#

You played so many fighting games. I thought you would've played anime games

kindred osprey
#

Nope
Don't really like them

wind hedge
#

Air movement galore

kindred osprey
#

Melty is the only one I liked

wind hedge
#

This is the part where I plug Skullgirls

kindred osprey
#

I did buy one BlazBlue on Steam years ago

#

Central Fiction, I think
Didn't really like it

#

Played like
2 or 3 days and gave up

wind hedge
#

The part where I plug Skullgirls again

vague creek
#

Never played skullgirls

#

But I didn't like the look of any of the characters

#

Except the funny trombone fridge thing

wind hedge
#

Fucking Big Band. I can never escape him

#

It's home to some of my favorite fighting game characters ever

#

Like the best zoner to ever exist

#

And she's an asshole

#

This is what it feels like for me fighting Kitana

vague creek
#

Is kitana a zoner?

wind hedge
#

Yeah, zoning and whiff punishing

wind hedge
vague creek
wind hedge
#

"Do anything to win" that's just gotta be someone who's never played a game before

vague creek
#

Me when people are trying to do ranked in a competitive game

#

Also I'm sure this is being said already but Omni man looks OP

#

I love my dodge/parry characters and Omni man's autododge shit is so cool

wind hedge
vague creek
#

Nah

#

What she do

#

Besides swing like Spiderman

wind hedge
#

She has a parry

#

She has "stocks" she has to charge to get a teleport. And parry charged that as well as having the follow up of the teleport or a push back

#

As well has having the best/2nd best mid in the game

vague creek
#

Hmm interesting

#

I'll have to see

#

Because I don't really care for her

#

Also, would crystalline armour blow through ice klone? Cause if so, imma cry

wind hedge
#

If Omni man will block lows then it'll have that over Tanya

vague creek
#

He does

#

Although it does require meter

wind hedge
#

Ahh

#

Does it just do a set amount of damage or does it lead to combos?

vague creek
#

I think you get that grab after it

#

The one where he slams you into the ground and chucks you into the air

#

So far that was always the default response post dodge

#

But I'm not entirely sure if it's a hitgrab or not. That will greatly change how it's used

wind hedge
#

Since like, Tanya's counter is essentially up block for mids

vague creek
wind hedge
#

Yeah

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It'll work against Johnny's overhead string for sure but you'd probably have to lab it to see if you have time to put up the counter

subtle oyster
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They usually get roasted on Reddit for posting shit like that

pulsar pike
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None of the Kombat League rewards this season look interesting to me

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(I won’t have to grind to demi-god for a Kenshi sword like I did last season)

tough rock
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@subtle oyster

The classic NRS top tier nerf

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pulsar pike
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Me and my fellow Johnny mains

subtle oyster
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I literally said they’re gonna hit his health for 50hp

tough rock
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Haven't seen any other patch notes

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Also holy shit

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DA Li Mei

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For $10

subtle oyster
wind hedge
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So I want the Li Mei skin or Omni man

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The announcer*

kindred osprey
kindred osprey
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I mean, she didn't have those pants iirc...

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The Kitana Skin and Mileena Sai are acquirable via Shrine, right?

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Is Invasions already out?

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I'm excited to play it tbh
I loved Invasions Season 1

tough rock
pulsar pike
kindred osprey
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LOL

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Great
I will have to farm, probably

wind hedge
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This season for me is Li Mei and Shang.

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Unless something explicitly needs Liu

subtle oyster
wind hedge
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No not particularly.

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But I'll hop in once I get my KOF fill.

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I'm getting there again

subtle oyster
pulsar pike
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Also if anyone figured out what the klue is for “splish splash in the first mesa lmk.

First klue (body blender) is doing Kenshi’s second fatality and third klue (yzark tihstab) is doing nitara’s first fatality

wind hedge
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Still don't know what I'm gonna do with Liu though

pulsar pike
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Messed around with the shaolin monks pairing and Liu with Lao is a lot of fun

subtle oyster
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Rain maybe?

tough rock
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Alright who wants this day 0, no Kombat Kast watched, Omni Man hands?

wind hedge
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When I get done paying this bill perhaps

tough rock
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In like 10 minutes

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Internet sucks right now

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Wife's on a zoom job interview so it sucks

wind hedge
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So @subtle oyster Li Mei Lao is literally just zoning and like no damage right?

pulsar pike
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Another Klue just reads “Home Run” and has me stumped

tough rock
subtle oyster
subtle oyster
subtle oyster
wind hedge
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Damn

tough rock
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Especially jacked since the zoom interview

subtle oyster
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Like toss that fucker and when it gets behind them you can combo them off 124 or something

tough rock
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Games updated and launched

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@wind hedge you wanna play?

wind hedge
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Yeah

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Forgot how lame zoning Lao is

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Bro is a dork when you use him like how he's supposed to be used

wind hedge
kindred osprey
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Koth?

tough rock
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Sure

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Maybe I shouldn't host

kindred osprey
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Tyler?

tough rock
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@wind hedge can you host a koth until my wife's zoom meeting is done?

wind hedge
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Oh sure sure

kindred osprey
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I'll dip if it's too bad
Invasions is fun af

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Joined
Sorry, was in Invasions

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Yo
Do the ranks really reset?
My card still says VII there

tough rock
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Holy poke range

wind hedge
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Well, Omni man certainly has a level of crack head to him

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With his mid being that

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Or rather that special

tough rock
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Also, this character select screen showing the other dlc characters is epic teasing

pulsar pike
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Will hop in too

wind hedge
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Luna you can morph mid F4

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You don't need to switch it's slower

kindred osprey
wind hedge
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Also guess you left or lagged out?

kindred osprey
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And game died

tough rock
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Ummm what happened?

wind hedge
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Ah yeah that'll do it.

kindred osprey
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Desynchronized

wind hedge
kindred osprey
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That's hard af bro
Lmao
No execution
I need Frost, Sub or Sareena to confirm with young and turn into old

vague creek
tough rock
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Eesh

wind hedge
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4 and stance

tough rock
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You can go past level 100?

kindred osprey
kindred osprey
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Thought they'd send me back to Lv1
They didn't.
I am just leveling past 100

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Broken ass characted
LMFAO

wind hedge
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Well I have no right talk you actually beat him with Shang

pulsar pike
tough rock
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@subtle oyster biggest tease in recent memory for me will be if/when Jade gets announced and I have to look at her locked icon on the character select screen for what will seem like an eternity

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The double wakeup armor knee....

subtle oyster
tough rock
pulsar pike
wind hedge