Mortal Kombat

[wind hedge]

Honestly, I forgot I was still subbed to him. I actively ignore his videos

[subtle oyster]

Agreed🤝

[tough rock]

[tough rock]

We may disagree on balance and tiers, but we'll always agree that he's a POS YouTuber

[subtle oyster]

The worst

[wind hedge]

Man why's Li Mei do so much damage with scorpion?

It's kinda stupid

Why's she get like 45 percent for a bar and a Kameo call?

Yeah Li Mei feels like a secondary for me this is crazy

[wind hedge]

Remind me to unsub

[subtle oyster]

Not easy to open people up tbh

[tough rock]

Unsub or ban /s

Not serious BTW. Watch whichever YouTube channels and creators you like

[subtle oyster]

The entire MK community a few months ago agreed that TrueDawgs content posted here is a ban

Granted the entire community was pretty much just me and @tough rock but the fact remains

[wind hedge]

I haven't watched him since soul cal 6 dropped

[tough rock]

He ducked then too lol

Literally was coming up with fake frames and claiming Nightmare was S+ tier for no damn reason other than a Nightmare stomped him repeatedly

[wind hedge]

I see why people play her patience

[subtle oyster]

Lao kameo let’s her be safe on her overhead and gives her better zoning

But yeah need to be patient

[wind hedge]

I think she's fairly neat

She has a really far low started in my opinion, and B3 is a slow but far moving starter and just mid in general

[subtle oyster]

She got good strike throw off the plus frames

[wind hedge]

Yeah for sure

If I could be remotely decent at Li Mei she'd be my favorite secondary by far

[subtle oyster]

Li Bae

[wind hedge]

Maybe I'm the dork. But I think this combo is sick

[tough rock]

Well lads, see you won't see me on MK between Friday and Monday

[wind hedge]

Beat everyone up in there

I still don't know how Tekken works at all

[tough rock]

3D Mortal Kombat with real martial arts

For the most part

[wind hedge]

I'm quite unlikely to ever get into the series but it always looks neat

[tough rock]

You can button mash in tekken and win easily

Most accessible fighting game but also the hardest

[subtle oyster]

Don’t forget to like and subscribe 🤓

[tough rock]

Easily

[tough rock]

I'm glad she isn't in the base roster

[subtle oyster]

Kazuya is easily the hardest fighting game character I’ve ever played

Arguably one of the hardest in all of fighting games

[subtle oyster]

Oh she’s not? That’s cool

Ima watch some gameplay

[tough rock]

90% of the roster is leaked and Her, ||Eddy, and Lucky Chloe|| aren't in base roster

[subtle oyster]

Thank god LC is gone

[kindred osprey]

No Kazumi, no Luna

I do like Jun tho

[subtle oyster]

I quite liked Kazumi

No heihachi is crazy to me

[tough rock]

[subtle oyster]

How does that make you a dork?

The combo is fire

[wind hedge]

Fair enough

I had my run back against that Johnny player but it was a bit it a blow out.

He was dropping stuff so I'll give him that

[subtle oyster]

In your favor?

[wind hedge]

Correct in my favor

[subtle oyster]

What did I say?

[wind hedge]

I streamed it so I can edit the vod if I want to

Only problem is me dropping the BF1 online

[subtle oyster]

If everyone listened and agreed with me the world would be a better place

The back forward 1

You mean the 3

?

[wind hedge]

I meant 3

I have finished the invasion finally

[subtle oyster]

Do you know how to get the nether stone

[wind hedge]

Nah but is it needed for anything important?

[subtle oyster]

I have no idea I’m assuming you will get chests and shit for it

[subtle oyster]

@wind hedge what song is this one?

[wind hedge]

Razermind from Payday 2

[subtle oyster]

Thanks homie

[wind hedge]

Alright I'm uploading the set from earlier but like it was pretty one sided

But I think I did "some good" things

[subtle oyster]

@wind hedge you wanna play today?

[wind hedge]

Ah nah my boys got me watching Dragonball

Tomorrow I'd like some Li Mei games in.

[subtle oyster]

I won’t be back on till probably Sunday or Monday but we’ll get games in sometime

[wind hedge]

Fair enough

I just think she's neat

She's consistently in B tier it would seem like

Like in the same tier as Nitara

[subtle oyster]

I think SonicFox and Xombat had her in S tier

In Liu’s tier

[wind hedge]

Because they both understand that she can like DB3 after blocking a jab

It's rough just finding games of her on YouTube

[subtle oyster]

Well that but I think she has a pretty solid gameplan with Lao hat

Nobody is consistently punishing down 1’s online I don’t think

[wind hedge]

She seems like an "offline monster"

[subtle oyster]

It’s really hard to get the 40% combo there with scorpion

[wind hedge]

Been messing around with it as an anti air and man it's pretty simple

But probably harder for the D1

[subtle oyster]

Off the down 1 I meant but yeah shi zi lion special move is really good

[wind hedge]

I might mess around with it at some point

[subtle oyster]

It’s hard as hell lol

I can do it in practice mode but I’m not getting it consistently in online

Otherwise I’d just 1-2 the shit out of people and bait down 1’s and murder them for it

[wind hedge]

The way I do the lion is just half circle back 3 and assist call

[subtle oyster]

Same here

I just roll it from down to up

Also I think SylverRye would be a good streamer for you to watch on Liu

[wind hedge]

It's up to us to become the best Li Mei players

[subtle oyster]

I’m retiring Li Mei that’s gotta be on you

I’m chilling with Sindel

I’ll play some Li bae mirrors with you tho

[wind hedge]

I see, this server has to have the best out world team

What was the name of their realm? I already forgot

[subtle oyster]

It’s Outworld

[wind hedge]

Yeah, we'll have to best of them. Minus a select few. Like Reiko and Tanya for example

[subtle oyster]

I wanted to throw an earthrealm vs outworld tournament

[kindred osprey]

WHY NOT ME?

[subtle oyster]

Lolll I haven’t played with him in a few weeks and we were conveniently mid conversation lol

[kindred osprey]

Wanna fight me tho?
I only got 30min for now
But more at night I'll be free

[subtle oyster]

I’m watching the rangers game rn so maybe later

[wind hedge]

https://youtu.be/BFhCoxFQnWU?si=9YcczmQP5MT5qK1u

This was the video from today

[tough rock]

This is so seemless it makes me think 2v2 was cut and turned into kameos

https://twitter.com/ermaccer/status/1714760268352307395?t=pT7qbUFoZeQoQOUQ4nL2nw&s=19

[kindred osprey]

MY FIRST QUITALITY!!!!!!!!

A Baraka just couldn't handle my new Mileena/Scorp combos

[wind hedge]

I don't think I'd ever generate a quitality

[kindred osprey]

You will

@subtle oyster!!!!!
I just beat up a CRACKED Kenshi in KL
He clearly knew what he was doing
And I am SUPER SUPER SUPER happy!!!!!!
I had Scorp Kameo, won neutral pretty well, didn't yolo much and SPECIALLY
I used the D1 punish you taught me

AND IT PAID OFF

But I did it with ball roll instead of the F1 mid
I tried the F1 first, but Mileena just doesn't have the range to punish Kenshi D3 (I think that's it. It was kick on normal mode and a katana poke on clone mode)

Also...
Man, I get why Kenshi is top tier
You literally lose a round if you guess wrong and get frozen by Frost

I tried Scorp Armored Spear Backdash to get out of his pressure, but do you believe Scorp just pulls the Kenshi clone back along with Mileena?

He also blocked when I just did the armored teleport

And punished me HARD
He had a 60% corner combo with that damn clone
And it's literally IMPOSSIBLE to just guard all of his pressure with it

The sheer amount of high/low mix ups he has on block, and it all leads to big combos and more mix ups

Shit man, Kenshi is a MONSTER
I might take time to learn him in the future

Very far future tbh
I want to have a good Shao, Reptile, Lao, Sub, Smoke, Ashrah, Kitana and Sindel before Kenshi

[wind hedge]

I just want a good Liu and a Li Mei

[kindred osprey]

Your Liu is surely on his way there
You're doing super well

[wind hedge]

Well I try quite hard

But yeah Li Mei is pretty sick and is similar to Liu Kang.

But less range

[wind hedge]

https://vxtwitter.com/UmgadiEmpire/status/1714746552789369250?t=ZjOMgomE9a7D3PqvfWPzRQ&s=19

Why he such a dork

[kindred osprey]

LMFAOOOOOOOO

Sindel laughing is priceless

[wind hedge]

Luna if you're on tomorrow I'll be up for being a punching bag as I learn Li Mei weaknesses in game.

[kindred osprey]

I will be after college...
In exactly 16h18min from now

I could be on today tho
In 2h or smt

[wind hedge]

Ah you won't be on till like 5PM EST ish

[kindred osprey]

That's 4h p.m. for me

[wind hedge]

Nah I don't play like after 10:30 PM to attempt to have a sleep schedule

[kindred osprey]

I stop playing by 21h30min, that's when dinner is usually ready
And then I spend time with my gf until she sleeps
USUALLY I'd go to sleep with her
But lately I'm feeling stressed and have little time during the day, so I'm playing at night after she goes

[wind hedge]

Gaming schedules are so hard to line up

[kindred osprey]

If we can't tmw, fridays are my free days

[wind hedge]

It's fine I lab a lot anyways

We just need more MK games

[kindred osprey]

Agree
KL is fun, but not nearly as good as a long set

[wind hedge]

I don't like being in KL because I somehow stress myself out just trying to play the game.

Since I aim for winning a bit too much

[kindred osprey]

I'll be honest...
The interface is so bad and confusing that I don't even know where the points are after a fight
LMFAO

This makes me WAY less stressed

I have no idea what I'm gaining or losing, so I just roll with it

[wind hedge]

Ah that's really fair

[kindred osprey]

I don't care for winning or losing
I care about the points

[wind hedge]

I gotta be in a party with people to not pay attention to the game

[kindred osprey]

Like, VC?

I know I said that last year
But gimme like 3 months or so
I'll start voice training at some point and I'll do VC with y'all
LMFAO

[wind hedge]

I'm not worried about it I'm normally in a VC in the afternoon

But not the morning when I actually play fighting games

[kindred osprey]

Can't wait for vacations...
I miss playing you 8h in the morning

LOL

[wind hedge]

I play in the morning since that's where I have all my focus

It's also when I actively learn stuff like new routes and stuff

[kindred osprey]

I feel like I play better in the mornings too
Not so tired from living for a whole day

[subtle oyster]

That’s how you should roll with ranked. Treat it like kasual and roll

[wind hedge]

Someone's gotta teach me how to do that

[kindred osprey]

Yeah
BD4 for the win

[kindred osprey]

But like...
What rank are you?

[subtle oyster]

Oh fuck I see what I did

[wind hedge]

Um appreciate 3 I think? Or at least I have 3 marks

[kindred osprey]

Fights should be really easy for now
I think I only lost one set in KL

[kindred osprey]

OH
You're way higher than me

[wind hedge]

Nah I just played a lot when I was Johnny

[kindred osprey]

I don't even know how the ranks work
But I am on the muddle of the second rank

[wind hedge]

I'll get an answer tomorrow

[kindred osprey]

Also
Another thing about ranked...

Even if I knew how many points I have and stuff
What good is it?
In 15 days, it'll be reset anyway
If I go on a losing streak, fuck it
In 2 weeks I'll be back at 0

I kinda wish it was like SF and just let me climb slowly

[wind hedge]

I liked it resetting my progress depending on the character

I want to try Li Mei not sweat against a Raiden or shit on the world's most predictable smoke

[kindred osprey]

Also wish we had char specific ranks...
I wanna take Shao and Reptile to KL but afraid of losing what I got with Mileena

And fuck Raiden

[wind hedge]

Times like this make me wish I could talk completely and not pause to play. Since I would stream and just talk about nothing into the void

[kindred osprey]

I really can't do both at the same time
Every time my mom or gf come to talk to me in the middle of a match, I auto pilot the match and probably lose
And after that, I notice I have no idea wtf they just said

[kindred osprey]

You like streaming, right?
Do you plan on taking it seriously and growing a channel or smt?

[wind hedge]

Nah not all

It's mainly for feedback and stuff

[kindred osprey]

I always wanted to have a YT channel or smt of the sort but...
I'm extremely socially awkward tbh

Over text it's easier for me to communicate
But like...
I'm not really that good at talking

[wind hedge]

I'll talk to about anyone I'm sociable enough

[kindred osprey]

Like, I CAN talk if I need it to save my life or smt
But I'm really shy and just prefer not to if possible

[wind hedge]

Also talking about the aftermath of a game is a lot better for me than me thinking about it

[kindred osprey]

Ah yes, completely agree
The feedback @subtle oyster gave us last set was just AMAZING
I don't think I ever learned so much from one set

I wasn't even planning on learning anything, I just chose Lao and did shit
Lmao

[wind hedge]

I'm not exactly shy but I certainly ain't got a pretty voice. But like I rather respond to a chat message or ask a question and have someone who has an answer

Like when to mash on smoke teleport

For an example BTW I have an idea

[kindred osprey]

I think I have heard your voice on stream once and it was really deep
I remember liking it quite a lot

It could be my memory sabotaging me again tho
But I'm pretty sure it was a great voice

[wind hedge]

Nah nah, it's deep but nasally. Got called annoying for it and here I am still being conscious about it.

[kindred osprey]

I like deep voices tbh
Are you watching Naruto in jp or eng dub?

[wind hedge]

English

[kindred osprey]

Gaara's voice in Eng is just surreal to me

VaatiVidya's voice is also one I really enjoy

I just feel A LOT of dysphoria with my voice, since it's very deep and stereotypically male
Hence why I avoid VC

[wind hedge]

My plan to try Li Mei is to just do this

[kindred osprey]

See some cool twitter combo and try to copy on the run
LMAO

[wind hedge]

Nah I can't do that the way you do.

I learned a few great combos with her but they need scorpion

[kindred osprey]

Labbing is usually better
I am just the laziest person you'll find here

[subtle oyster]

I know things sometimes

[kindred osprey]

That's fine tbh
Scorp recharges fast
My Smoke depends on Scorp too for the combos

Mileena/Scorp is...
Flashy and cool looking, but not exactly that great now that I think of it
I'm doing 45% for 1 Kameo and 1 bar
But I know I can do 38 for just 1 bar without any kameos

And that's not even optimal
I've seen some Mileena's doing 40% meterless

I just find it too hard and inconsistent to try in real matches

[wind hedge]

I mean so with frost. She does like 35-38% with a bar and a Kameo call from a low

But I still don't know if you can "fuzzy" block it or not

[subtle oyster]

The f44 and the f4 frost kameo?

[wind hedge]

Yeah

I think that's input

[subtle oyster]

I think so but I’m not 100%

That’s the input I know for certain

[wind hedge]

I'm a bit suspicious of it but I'm also not a top 100 Li Mei. I know he uses it.

While also in tandem with slow play and zoning

[subtle oyster]

Who is he

[wind hedge]

Already forgot his name but he showed up on the search results

https://youtu.be/myRG_movg1Q?si=Y4JQ4Ta_yA7GE7vq

Here it is

[subtle oyster]

Oh cool maybe worth a watch for me

[kindred osprey]

Wait
Reptile's B31 isn't a low followed by an overhead?
It's a low, mid?

So my mix up between B31 Frost and just B3 Frost is completely fake?
LMFAO

Feeling sad now

[wind hedge]

One of the things I be doing is just looking at the move list just to see what's an overhead or a low

[wind hedge]

https://youtu.be/z58Nv2NkI4w?si=IoyC04rNL7oP9AOm

Neat video. I didn't know Shujinko gave people an invincible wakeup

[subtle oyster]

Yes it is lol

[wind hedge]

When I get home I'm gonna lab Li and Shujinko. I'm a bit curious

Just having a "MU dependent" reversal is pretty interesting to me.

Also playing the fireball war. I gotta see if she gets anything from an EX fireball max ish range but I'd like to see

[wind hedge]

https://vxtwitter.com/Magishinobi/status/1714952983115644936?t=l7-nsGqCkv_BZYCpRgx8-g&s=19

@tough rock

[kindred osprey]

@wind hedge
Just got home
I still need to cook and eat, but will you be on in like 1h?

[wind hedge]

Probably

I'm just watching a tournament for MK rn

[subtle oyster]

I wanna see another Shaolin showdown

That’s what we’re calling that

[kindred osprey]

LOL
No random dive kicks today

[subtle oyster]

Prove it

[kindred osprey]

Now it's yolo BF2!

LMAOOOOOO
Jk jk

I haven't played Lao ever since that set
Let's see how it goes

[subtle oyster]

If I see more mashing after a blocked down 1 I’m gonna rage and I’m not even playing the game

[kindred osprey]

You won't

I'll be on in like 30min
Things took longer than expected to get done

[wind hedge]

I'll play some as Liu Kang for sure but I'm definitely gonna try Li Mei a few times for sure

[kindred osprey]

Ok
Finally free

[wind hedge]

Alright could you make a session and invite me?

[kindred osprey]

Doing it rn

I'll be playing Sub against your Li Mei

I never touched Sub before
All I know is what Snake does to me sometimes
Lmao

[subtle oyster]

Fight to the death to please me

[kindred osprey]

You really are the new Oliver

[subtle oyster]

?

[kindred osprey]

In the Kof corner, we had this meme about how Oliver recruited us into the server just to watch us fight
Lmao

[wind hedge]

I'll be there soonish

[kindred osprey]

Inv sent
No rush

[subtle oyster]

Stream this shit I wanna see a bloodbath

[wind hedge]

Stream is up

[subtle oyster]

Good😈

[wind hedge]

Yeah fatal blow

[kindred osprey]

I mean
It worked
Lol

[wind hedge]

Damn second time in a row though

She's good

[kindred osprey]

Sub is not really hard

I just wish I knew a combo

Lol

[subtle oyster]

Basic one is back 2 > j1-2 > 2-1 > slide

There ya go lmao

[kindred osprey]

Ok
Happy

[wind hedge]

Nah I think you're pretty great at Sub if you've never played him before

[subtle oyster]

Oh shit she found the dive kick here we go again

[kindred osprey]

LOL

[subtle oyster]

Sub is good at beginner level play

He struggles at high level

THE FUCKING ANTI AIR OMG

HES A FUCKING NATURAL LMAO

[wind hedge]

She's pretty great at Sub Man

[kindred osprey]

Trying my best

[wind hedge]

I'm fighting for my life and am failing pretty hard

[subtle oyster]

Li Mei is hard give yourself a break

It’s your first day so you just need to get your punishes down. Sub is really unsafe esp the overhead

[kindred osprey]

THAT'S AN OVERHEAD?

[subtle oyster]

Random fatal blows ftw

She found the klone tho👀

[wind hedge]

Man I'm telling you. She's really good at this game

[kindred osprey]

I'm nottttttt
Sub is just really easy

[subtle oyster]

You just gotta have your punishes down against him don’t worry

You’ll get there

[kindred osprey]

SHIT
Thought I had more range

[subtle oyster]

THERE YOU GO

Nice combos bro

That’s how you beat him

[kindred osprey]

Got too confident tbh

[subtle oyster]

Sub has to take risks tho not entirely on you

[kindred osprey]

BAIT

[wind hedge]

I'm putting it somewhere on my wall how good Luna is at spacing

[subtle oyster]

@kindred osprey why I’m sick of the random ball rolls and dive kicks and shit lol

She’s kinda popping off on these reads ngl

THE BRUTAL

[kindred osprey]

Ok
Bad read

[wind hedge]

I needed that for my sanity

I'm sorry

[kindred osprey]

It's fine!!!!!

Do it again.

[subtle oyster]

You can combo off the dive kick

[kindred osprey]

Ok
Did shit

[wind hedge]

I am never pressing buttons on block I suppose

[kindred osprey]

I am fishing for whiffs a lot

[wind hedge]

You're great it

[subtle oyster]

I love the little ice armor your kameo gives you after he blocks the overhead. Like well you’re about to get destroyed here’s something

[wind hedge]

Sheesh I'll go probably one more as Li Mei

[kindred osprey]

LOL
Yeah, that's me trying to do the shoulder move too late

[wind hedge]

I'm not even mad or anything

[subtle oyster]

I think he has a good mid you can whiff punish with I think it’s f1

[wind hedge]

It's just she's so good here

I'd think she beat me with Sub even if I was on Liu Kang

[kindred osprey]

I really don't think so

[subtle oyster]

Liu would definitely be a better matchup there

And your punishes are way better with him

[kindred osprey]

Ok
No pressing

[subtle oyster]

THR STAGGER PRESSURE

Makes me proud

[kindred osprey]

I'm still on Sub brain

LOL

Where is my overhead?

[subtle oyster]

It’s kinda hard to transition over lol

[kindred osprey]

Gimme some games
My Lao is weird
LMAO

Sub fucked up my brain

[subtle oyster]

Liu is looking good today damn

[kindred osprey]

Yeah
Liu going STRONG

[subtle oyster]

@kindred osprey throw low hats and his regular hat projectile to zone so this will help your neutral. This was a reason why you were able to bait whiffs with sub

There ya go

[kindred osprey]

2121 isn't plus?

I am flabbergasted

[wind hedge]

The elbow?

Oh you mean the full thing

I don't think it is

[kindred osprey]

The hadoken after it

THAT COMBOED

[subtle oyster]

I think it’s punishable actually

[subtle oyster]

Way to jump kick to save that on block!

[wind hedge]

I gotta learn how to combo into this damn FB

[kindred osprey]

Lao isn't doing great today

[subtle oyster]

@kindred osprey zone more instead of divekicking

[kindred osprey]

I don't like zoning
I wanna combo

AW
CMON

[wind hedge]

Welcome to my world

[subtle oyster]

You will combo a lot more if you slow down and make him respect your zoning a tad. You don’t need to zone the entire game like Axl or some shit you just wanna make him respect it and slow the game down when you have the life lead. Which leads to WHIFF PUNISHES

[kindred osprey]

Hai

[subtle oyster]

and bombos

[wind hedge]

I am not confident in my ability to zone

But I'm trying

[subtle oyster]

You just wanna occasionally check ‘em and annoy them with it. Which leads to them doing something stupid

[kindred osprey]

I feel like this just isn't a Lao day
Might go for Reptile

[subtle oyster]

You prob should his Liu is looking great

[kindred osprey]

Ok
Will do

[wind hedge]

I'll play like 5 more I wanna shower

[kindred osprey]

Ok!

[subtle oyster]

We don’t shower here in the FGC

[kindred osprey]

Shit

[subtle oyster]

Give it a couple games for the character change it all good

[kindred osprey]

Yup
Tried Lao's combos

Lol

[wind hedge]

Frost out here earning her pay

[subtle oyster]

Can’t watch the rest sorry

[kindred osprey]

OK!
Happy

[wind hedge]

Fatal blows are useless when I do them. You ever see me throw out 1 kick. I'm trying to cancel it unti fatal blow

I got one more in me

[kindred osprey]

Ok

[subtle oyster]

Might need to be God Kang vs the Empress next time

Or Li Bae vs Lao

[wind hedge]

GGs

[kindred osprey]

Yup.

GGs!!!!!

Kinda pissed that Reptile decided to dance instead of Fatal Blow

[wind hedge]

Welcome to my life

[kindred osprey]

Simple Plan

[subtle oyster]

Don’t play Johnny😎

[kindred osprey]

Welp
Liu is fighting Mileena next

[subtle oyster]

Tyler leveled the fuck up overnight

[kindred osprey]

Yup

Super proud
Amazing games

[wind hedge]

https://vxtwitter.com/catshouldnt/status/1714041070453981606?t=YBLu76thfCJXnDbwhgU_9g&s=19
@subtle oyster

[kindred osprey]

Cute

[subtle oyster]

That does kinda look like a rat

[wind hedge]

I also apparently did land at least "bombos" with Li Mei

More than one which is more than I was aiming for

[subtle oyster]

Yeah you just need to get more comfortable with the punishes on the slide overhead and divekick

You can also whiff punish with bf4 and then combo off that with scorp

[wind hedge]

Oh that move

I'm just searching for her buttons

B2 is a 12 frame and she steps forward

B3 is a 17 one but it travels since she like leaps forward

[subtle oyster]

Focus on her plus frame buttons in pressure and throw the shit out of them

Her 1-2 is a plus on block auto shimmy

It’s really good

And her kick string that’s plus

[wind hedge]

I was using 1-2 for sure. I know that's just really stupid

And her kick string starts with a high so like it's rough to get it started on someone who mashes D1

[subtle oyster]

Especially against sub zero who has the best down 1 in the game

[wind hedge]

So I really got to ask what exactly was I doing different other than attempting to whiff punish and just using 12? Or is that it

[subtle oyster]

Gimme a sec I’m in heavy traffic rn

[subtle oyster]

With Liu?

[wind hedge]

Yeah

Just text back when you get the chance. I'm in no rush

[subtle oyster]

Instead of consistent f4-3 over and over you were doing more raw f4 staggers and she didn’t know when to press. I wasn’t sure which one you were gonna do either

Your anti airs are at elder god lvl rn at least in that set

I’ll work with you to incorporate low hat into your stagger pressure and I’ll get you to Demi god level with your Liu

I think it would be beneficial to watch some SylverRye and you’ll kinda see what he does with it

[wind hedge]

I see, I'll probably watch him tomorrow morning

Pretty much asides from what you've suggested I've just been freestyling on pressure

So I just kinda did stuff that game with F4 without thinking too much about it what I'm fishing for

[subtle oyster]

Yeah you looked like you were kinda vibing with your pressure

Just looked really comfortable

[wind hedge]

Felt a need this would say it better than I would say

[subtle oyster]

The game is kinda about habits a lot. If you build good ones then you’ll do the right shit often

[kindred osprey]

@MK Matchmaking
Serious Mileena play rn

Already slept after the set with Tyler
Now I'm feeling rested and out for blood

[tough rock]

I'm down but I'm sick as hell right now and may not be awake for long lol. Just woke up from a nice nap

[kindred osprey]

I'm actually on SF6 now

Sorry

And I hope you get better soon!

[tough rock]

All good. I sleep more now

[wind hedge]

Li Mei tomorrow hopefully

I can't believe I landed the most wicked anti air of 2023

Oh also also. Whenever Ketchup and Mustard post this tournament. I need someone else to watch this damn scorpion player

That man is crazy even though he's using Scorp Cyrax

[wind hedge]

@kindred osprey

https://vxtwitter.com/X_AZEEZ3/status/1715008426168713726?t=9bv_2aiMpmAK25Qi1llZUw&s=19

[kindred osprey]

Wait
WHAT?

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey @wind hedge either if you playing tonight? Woke up from a nap feeling slightly better

[wind hedge]

Ah I'm just watching Naruto so I'm off the game for the night

[kindred osprey]

I think I can be on in like...
30min

Teach me Sub.

Show me the tech

And how to do over 250
That's the most I got against Tyler

[wind hedge]

Do not show her tech

[kindred osprey]

LMAO

[wind hedge]

Show me the anti tech

[tough rock]

Over 25% with Sub?

With or without Cyrax?

[wind hedge]

Without

She was using Sub Sub

[tough rock]

Over 25% without Cyrax is easy. Asking for literally anything over 30% is gonna cost a bar and a kameo bar

[kindred osprey]

B2 > j1-2 > 2-1 > slide
That's what I was doing

Lmao

[tough rock]

You're not too far off from a meter less 31%

[kindred osprey]

What am I lacking?
Lol

[tough rock]

Literally another B2 and J12

[kindred osprey]

So...
B2, J12, B2, J12, 21, Slide?

Also...
Best kameo for Sub?
Goro lets me do the overhead safe?

Lao could be good for setups with low hat into overhead

[remote mountain]

its always cyrax lmao

makes you more safe, unlocks combo routes after slide so you can get actual high dmg, etc

theres also some setups with cyrax net and freeze iirc

[kindred osprey]

I refuse to use Cyrax
I haven't sold my soul to the devil yet

[subtle oyster]

Kung Lao

[subtle oyster]

B2 then b2 again then j12

[wind hedge]

Man he gets 32 percent off of an overhead starter? That's crazy

I can't name many characters with overhead starters other than Baraka but he's cheating

[tough rock]

Hot take, but Sonya

[subtle oyster]

Once you play him a few times in decent ping that is, the overhead is reactable

[kindred osprey]

With Scorp, I get 35 with Smoke

But I do need Scorp

[kindred osprey]

She is a combo extender, right?
Sub does need the dmg

[subtle oyster]

You wanna use him with Lao I swear to god. You can use the foxy setup and it keeps his overhead safe. It gives him great zoning and the low hat in pressure gives him opportunities to whiff punish down 1’s off pressure

[wind hedge]

I hate 2 characters a lot. Sub and Kenshi

One of these days I'll figure out how to fight him

[kindred osprey]

So...
I should Pick Kameo Lao with Lao, Mileena and Sub?

Gonna tell me Reptile and Shao too?

Lmao

[subtle oyster]

Lao kameo is incredibly busted but people aren’t rioting about it right now cause Cyrax is the target

If cyrax gets nerfed. Lao is next

And it’s really not even close between the top 2 kameos between the rest of the cast

People say Sareena is busted but she isn’t shit compared to Lao or Cyrax

[kindred osprey]

Sub Sareena might be what I go for
Purely for lore reasons

But I will lab Lao

Sektor also seems good idea, no?

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey Sub meter less 31%

[subtle oyster]

Sub Sareena also works

Sub Sektor I’ve seen

Also

[kindred osprey]

OK
That seems good tbh

[wind hedge]

Man, I hate him. I need the anti sub tech

[kindred osprey]

Hm...
Sub Frost also works, right?

High low mix ups
And I could probably use her to do what I did today, cancel the first hit of B2 to make it safe

[tough rock]

Frost adds more scaling to Sub's already abysmal damage

[subtle oyster]

Sub needs safety and plus frames. He has mix. The reason why he is low tier is because he’s unsafe as shit

[kindred osprey]

Oh
True...

[subtle oyster]

And doesn’t get much damage per the risk

[tough rock]

And quite honestly his EX Deadly Vapors gives you enough time to dash up and B2 someone

[kindred osprey]

Yeah, prob going for Sareena or Sektor

Leave Lao for Lao

[subtle oyster]

Sareena makes your overhead safer while still being able to combo and makes the low able to combo

[kindred osprey]

Hm...
That seems good

[subtle oyster]

Notice how you were canceling the first hit if b2 in the sub kameo earlier? Same shit with Sareena and it combos

[kindred osprey]

Great!
That seems good

[subtle oyster]

I think you should use Lao tho

Especially with how comfortable you are with it

Like you’re a natural with it

And I think you should run it

[kindred osprey]

Am I?
I just watched Foxy once and tried to copy

[subtle oyster]

And you did a great job with it

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey you wanna run some Sub games?

[kindred osprey]

I'm in!

Might go for Lao later
He needs some work
Tyler smashed my confidence on him

[wind hedge]

Your Lao is still pretty great Luna

[kindred osprey]

I know
But he needs more power

[subtle oyster]

You need to listen to me w/ him

You’re way more confident with Sub cause you control neutral and throw projectiles then make reads in your favor with five kick and slide in your favor

But for whatever reason you don’t wanna throw a few projectiles with Lao like Sub and you let him anti air you

[kindred osprey]

Will do

[subtle oyster]

Lao is like a shoto but more aggressive than Liu. If you never use the projectiles you’re already at an uphill battle imo

[wind hedge]

It's fucking back to Ken and Ryu

It's ALWAYS KEN AND RYU

Sheesh

[subtle oyster]

Yeah he’s a shittier Ken

And Liu is a better Ryu lol

[wind hedge]

Give Lao drive rush

[subtle oyster]

I don’t want that shit in my MK

[wind hedge]

I see I see

[subtle oyster]

Johnny dash block is as fast as a Juri drive rush anyways lol

[wind hedge]

I'm putting at least my whole foot into the Li Mei grind.

The rest of my body is still into Liu Kang improvement

As ass as I was at the Sub MU because I couldn't put poke his D1 and beat his whiff punishes. She's a very fun character

[kindred osprey]

Wtf

Sorry
I don't even know how I did this

Wanted Ex Slide

Might've spent an easy fatality

Ex Clone a good reversal?

Nope

Ok
Lao time

[tough rock]

I guess its a good reversal if the opponent walks into it lol

[kindred osprey]

The clone
Lmao

I'm falling for it WAY too much

[tough rock]

I legit forgot what Kameo I use with Kitana

[kindred osprey]

Ok
She Is annoying

[tough rock]

Still haven't remembered

Isn't Cyrax lol

[kindred osprey]

SAD

Lao isn't doing much...

LMFAO

YUSSSSSSS

Lao DAMAGE

Ok
Today is not a Lao day...
I am sure I was better with him Day 1 than today

LMAO
The rocket

Ok
No more Lao

Sad

Lol

Dvorah reference

Lol

[kindred osprey]

It's 2h40min
I might just go to sleep

Last one

GGs!!!!!!

Super great games

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey ggs

[kindred osprey]

Sorry to go so abruptly
I just feel sleepy and I don't think I'm playing that well today

Tomorrow you'll feel my true Lao
Lol

[tough rock]

It's 1:45 am on the east coast lol I'm only awake right now because I slept half the day today

[tough rock]

Tomorrow I'll be playing Tekken 8

[kindred osprey]

Tuesday you'll feel my true Lao

[kindred osprey]

I actually woke up at 5h a.m. today
I have no idea how I'm awake rn

[subtle oyster]

@wind hedge @remote mountain https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ey_Yujco5Ts

Two of the best players

[remote mountain]

fuck i havent gotten to hop on MK in a while, still dk if ima just swap back to cyrax on scorp lol

[subtle oyster]

He barely used him for chip

Both of these guys are not human

[remote mountain]

Yeah, he just uses it to deal with all the gaps and negative frames scorp has lmao

[wind hedge]

This scorpion player and another one I don't know the name of do make him look quite cool

I have an idea of what this Liu is doing. It's essentially just Liu 101 but he's doing consistently. I'm just curious why he doesn't anti air with a teleport when scorpion jumped over the low hat

[kindred osprey]

@wind hedge @tough rock @subtle oyster

@MK Matchmaking

Just woke up
Want some Lao action

[wind hedge]

I can play a small bit before I eat breakfast

[kindred osprey]

Ok
Turning on the PS

Not random stage

Lol

LUCK

[wind hedge]

FBs are bit too safe on block

Honestly, only issue I have with Li Mei. I'm not getting my special

Alright I have to eat I'll be back

[kindred osprey]

Ok!

Gonna lab a bit Lao

[wind hedge]

I have damaged for when my combos do land

Do they hurt Luna?

It's a legitimate question since I actually only land like 3 combos a round

[kindred osprey]

Yes
If I don't breaker, they are all 35%+

Most are like 40%

I am afraid of them

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey sorry Luna but I'm playing T8

[kindred osprey]

Trueeeee
I forgot
Good luck there!!!!!

[tough rock]

Thanks. Gotta relearn Leroy somewhat lol

[wind hedge]

I'm back @kindred osprey

[kindred osprey]

Great!

[wind hedge]

I'm full as hell. I can no longer full size waffles

[kindred osprey]

Lol
Waffles are great

[wind hedge]

Man Kung Sub is a crazy team. This shit feels really hard to fight

I'll go once more as Li Mei but you leveled past her for sure

[kindred osprey]

Liu time?

[wind hedge]

Fantastic job, I couldn't land a single thing there

Well your Kung is a LOT better than my Li Mei

[kindred osprey]

I don't think so
Yesterday you beat me up pretty bad

[wind hedge]

Whew desynch

[wind hedge]

I'm saying than my Li Mei. You straight stopped her from doing anything that set

[kindred osprey]

Didn't your Li Mei fuck up Lao bad yesterday?

[wind hedge]

No your Sub literally bullied my Li Mei

So badly

[kindred osprey]

OH
Right
Liu bullied Lao

[wind hedge]

I'm telling you, your reads are significantly better than mine could ever be.

Your fatal blows have such a damn high hit rate

Luna got a flawless

[kindred osprey]

Man
I HATE when Mileena decides to whiff that

Too late

[wind hedge]

I need it to happen. You hit it really often

[kindred osprey]

I am dead
Lol

[wind hedge]

Man she has so much range

[kindred osprey]

I need Goro...

[wind hedge]

Does she have the longest 1 in the game?

[kindred osprey]

But I need to resist this urge

She and Sub

[wind hedge]

I stand by it Luna. I think you have a much better sense of the game than I do. You press buttons a lot better than I do

[kindred osprey]

I don't think so
I have some really bad habits I think

[wind hedge]

Oh wow I finally landed that combo

Luna I'm not dealing with them well

I got hit by like 3 raw ball rolls there

[kindred osprey]

Man...
I don't feel so good
Idk what's happening
But I just am not feeling it

[wind hedge]

I'll go one more

Personally I think you're doing pretty well

[kindred osprey]

Ok!

And ehhhhhh
Not so surw

STYLE

[wind hedge]

GGs

[kindred osprey]

GGs!!!!!!

[wind hedge]

Personally I think this is the coolest one but eh

[kindred osprey]

I think I need to sleep
Sleeping 5h a.m. wasn't that great an idea

[wind hedge]

I need to learn how to play Li Mei

[wind hedge]

When you get back on I'll probably be around

[kindred osprey]

Gimme 30min

Just labbed some Mileena stuff
I think I need to rest my brain and hands a bit

Lol

[wind hedge]

The more I use Shujinko the more I wish I could actually use him

[kindred osprey]

Ok
You on?

[wind hedge]

Man I just went to get on my switch

Yeah I can play a bit

[wind hedge]

Invite me

[kindred osprey]

Ok!
Creating room

[wind hedge]

I am absolutely still gonna keep trying Li Mei. So be patient with me

[kindred osprey]

Go on!

[wind hedge]

Man do all the characters you play have LONG NORMALS

You gotta teach me how the play the game.

You have such a good understanding Luna. I'm telling you

[kindred osprey]

I don't think so tbh...
Not feeling confident

[wind hedge]

The level of MK you play it is the skill I feel I don't have yet

[kindred osprey]

Accidental Brutality

[wind hedge]

No no, I have "character" skill

[kindred osprey]

Sorry

[wind hedge]

Not MK skill

That's how I see it

Like you have a high floor for all your characters in my opinion

Like what you just did that round

I could not do

[kindred osprey]

I don't think I have that much MK skill either
Since I play many chars, I do have a basic understanding
But I feel like I have so many gaps on my knowledge
That you capitalize on so well

[wind hedge]

Like you have a great understanding of whiff punishing, your range, my lack of range and you up block

[kindred osprey]

FINALLY

[wind hedge]

Like you see that since we started I have only been able to get you half like a handful of times

[kindred osprey]

THAT WORKED

[wind hedge]

That seals it. I think you really are much better at playing MK than I am

You space Fatal Blows. I've never done that in my life

You press on wakeup because you know I press highs. I'd never do that

It's stuff like that

Nah you might just be uneatable because that pressure is insane

I'm jealous

[kindred osprey]

Just do the low hat more

Man
J22 isn't comboing into St12

[wind hedge]

When I tell you I don't have a good way to use Low hat like you do I mean it

[kindred osprey]

I only got it once in all our matches

[wind hedge]

I suck at labbing pressure

[kindred osprey]

No lab
Just do it

[wind hedge]

Absolutely not, I can't freestyle like that Luna

[kindred osprey]

Let me go Lao
I wanna play him

But I am feeling so bad with him

[wind hedge]

Just not a skill I have to just try something without thinking about it

[kindred osprey]

Maybe I can use my new pressure with him as well...

Even tho I think he doesn't have the range

Mileena has blessed D1 and 1

[wind hedge]

You have such a tight pressure set up with that pressure

[kindred osprey]

Yeah, St2 whiffs after low hat

[wind hedge]

My apologies for the brutality

[kindred osprey]

It's fine!!!!
Looks cool

[wind hedge]

Your use of the low hats is literally S tier

I'll probably play like 2 more and just think overly hard about how to block

Since I'm at a loss for Mileena

Wow I'm a godamn scrub

Why if god's name would I do a minus 20 move in neutral

[kindred osprey]

I think you prob should've armored through smt
There must be a gap there

Not even I know tbh

I forget Last Breath is a thing

[wind hedge]

GGs I think you might be too good for me with that Kameo

I just can not adapt

[kindred osprey]

GGs!!!!!

[wind hedge]

You did such amazing things with that low, I couldn't even imagine

[kindred osprey]

I think I finally get why people say Lao is too strong
He does give you basically infinite pressure

Low hat is +2 and recharges so fast that you can do like 4 times in a row

[wind hedge]

I think you're significant better than I am because I'd never do that and I also can't block

[kindred osprey]

But really, try using the low hat with Liu on a blockstring
F4 is your go to, right?

Just do your normal string and then hat, dash foward and do it again.
And again, and again.

If you hit the first part of the string, you can confirm into a combo
If not, just hat
It's safe and even on block, you're still plus

It's even better with Mileena since her 12 has an overhead, meaning there is a high/low mix up ON TOP of just absurdly fast pressure with plus frames

And to make it even worse
I just learned a 42% combo with Mileena for 1 bar
If only I had the execution...

[wind hedge]

That's what I mean, you figured that out. I think that's a skill of "being good at MK" that I really don't have

Like I still barely have an idea of why it would be good because they literally could just hold down block with Liu and I go through all of my Kameo and generated them bar

That sounds like a pretty shit deal when I think it out

[kindred osprey]

Even if they block it all, think of the CHIP they'd receive
Plus, then again, you're completely safe
And if you hit and confirm into a combo, that's some SERIOUS dmg

[wind hedge]

It also doesn't work infinitely

Since Liu's animation isn't long enough for me to even do a second hat

[kindred osprey]

3 or 4 times in a row
It's quite a lot tbh
And then again, the recharge is FAST

[wind hedge]

I can only do one

[kindred osprey]

Maybe not F4 then...
No other good strings to start combos?

The jab into low maybe?

Is that cancelable?

[kindred osprey]

You can also try to mix up some grabs with it
Do smt like
String, Hat, Tick Throw?
Or just String, Hat, Grab?

Your back grab comboes with his Teleport

[wind hedge]

I know back grab does that but Liu himself has tools for tick throws and the like. He also doesn't have any like unsafe specials cancelable normals or stuff like that

[kindred osprey]

Also
Liu has no overheads at all?
The hat makes lots of moves combo even without cancels

[wind hedge]

His strings are not long, so absolutely not

[wind hedge]

He has one and it's a hard knockdown

[kindred osprey]

That's actually good too tbh
Mileena can setup the delay low hat from her overhead, meaning you get a mix up after it

Maybe Liu can do it too?

[wind hedge]

Look I'm not gonna think about it. I'm getting actively annoyed that I can't think of anything to actually use it with.

[kindred osprey]

I can try to help labbing some Liu
He seems fun

I just...
Don't like him as a character

[wind hedge]

I'm not worried about it, I'm just not smart enough/clever enough to actually figure out how to use the best Kameo's best thing

Other than a low fireball at like mid or full screen

[kindred osprey]

And that's completely fine tbh
I'm not that creative at all
Most of my stuff are just copied from other people

Brandon has been telling me to use the low hat for days now and I've been CLUELESS

I needed a YT vid to understand what to do

https://youtu.be/ES1F7dW4hr4?si=O4EEDwJst23J65nu

LMAO

I need to see smt done by other people to be able to do them myself

[kindred osprey]

Ok, this is a Mileena vid, but I was able to apply most of the tech to Lao as well
Thinking about trying Shao next

Shao Lao seems good...
He has the range and the built in high low
With the plus frames, he might be great

Also, I just HOPE Lao teleport comboes from his overhead

[fiery thistle]

His f2?

[kindred osprey]

Does it work?
Motaro does

[wind hedge]

I'll probably need to just take a break for the weekend. I can't word properly how annoyed? Disappointed? I just feel angry that I had no idea what to. And it'll probably be on my mind for a while.

[kindred osprey]

Motaro is significantly faster to teleport tho

[fiery thistle]

I don't think so unf

Yeah

[kindred osprey]

It's fine man
I also felt pretty sad and not confident for the past 2 days or so
Feel like I played worse than normal

But then again, I'd tell you to try to search on YT what to do on the specific situations
Or just ask people here

I feel like you're doing great
Last long set we had, your Liu was on par with my Lao
Now he's way past Lao and much closer to Mileena

[wind hedge]

I know y'all disagree. But I'm telling you I feel quite carried. Not disagreeing with my improvement or anything. But this man has almost everything except mix and like the longest St.1 and D1. So I'm still figuring out what I'm doing right with him

[kindred osprey]

I think you're so used to bottom tiers that now that you have a mid tier char, you feel carried

LMFAOOOOOOO

I mean, I am using Mileena, one of the Top Tier chars
And Lao Kameo, one of the Top Tier kameos

I do feel bad sometimes
LOL

[subtle oyster]

I bet you want action with Lao

Slut

[kindred osprey]

LMFAOOOOOOOO

Nah, I don't really see him like that
I'd probably go for Shao or Reptile

[kindred osprey]

https://youtu.be/7xl6rJ-1BK8?si=Lfi1dvzYrNWDdgOK

I don't think it's about blocking it all
It's about THIS

Take a look, it'll help a lot fucking me up, probably

[wind hedge]

I don't know man. I get using it in gaps where I would armor and stuff. I'll try it whenever I get back on

I'll have to drag my confidence back up or just have a strong need to play the game

[subtle oyster]

Why the fuck are you always so down on yourself when you do cool shit?

[wind hedge]

It's because I really feel I'm still misunderstanding how to play MK. Like quite hard.

It might just be an off day

But I certainly was bullied by Luna with Mileena and Lao

[subtle oyster]

You played so well yesterday wtf

[wind hedge]

Yeah yesterday

Today Luna was running the show

In-between her whiff punishing super well, me getting hit by Mileena ball trying to walk backwards, and her using Lao hat on block well. There were a lot of games where I only really hit her with like like 20 percent and then she killed me afterwards

If Luna gets on again I'll play and stream it so you can see what I'm talking about.

[kindred osprey]

I'm on rn

Was gonna ping for more games

I don't feel like SF today...
Idk, I might just take a break from there
Getting too sweaty and too focused on my points

I feel so close to Master, but at the same time, so far...
I know I'm close, but it's SO HARD to climb now

[wind hedge]

I really don't understand why the sent twice

My phone does not like discord

[kindred osprey]

LOLLLLL
Happens
Discord is crazy

[wind hedge]

If murdered Oliver is around sure I'll play.

[kindred osprey]

"The murderer"

LMAO

I'm actually playing Elden Ring rn
I can get in on MK at anytime, just depends if y'all want it

[wind hedge]

Same I'm just playing switch

[kindred osprey]

My only reason to want a Switch is to play the new Pokemon games

[wind hedge]

This new Mario game, I'm having a good time

[tough rock]

Well its not like Lao is a popular ladies man or anything

Man gets rejected more than Johnny Bravo

[tough rock]

You honestly aren't missing much with Scarlet and Violet

[wind hedge]

Okay, does anyone want to play

If I stay in bed any longer I might morph into the sheets

[kindred osprey]

I'm in!
Let's see how this goes

[wind hedge]

Alright let me use the bathroom RQ then I'll be on

[kindred osprey]

I think I'm getting too used to Lao kameo
Might try someone else

[wind hedge]

Once again, she's cracked with FBs

[kindred osprey]

55%

WOOHOO

[wind hedge]

Take this statement back

[kindred osprey]

Nah

[wind hedge]

Lass, you see what's happening here

Your Mileena is still leagues above me

[kindred osprey]

NOOOOOOOOO

[wind hedge]

Girl, you're hitting 50% like every time you touch me. I'm barely doing 50 damage to you

[kindred osprey]

Sorry
Unintentional

I tend to hold the button for this move

[wind hedge]

Your ball rolls are immaculate and catch me when I get trying to do an action and your teleports are crazy good

[kindred osprey]

Liu has more range than he seems

[wind hedge]

You're so goated with teleports man

I don't my Liu can do anything

[kindred osprey]

I was fishing
I knew you'd projectile

[wind hedge]

One sec

[kindred osprey]

Ok!

[wind hedge]

I'll probably play 2 more I think I gotta do something

But I'm gonna be honest. If what you're playing is MK. I'm pretty hot ASS at MK

Alright this one is my last

Alright GGs I might be back in like 40 minutes because I gotta run somewhere

[kindred osprey]

GGs!!!!!!

It's fine
I'll be here

[wind hedge]

Your style of play I'm telling you fits MK way more than mine does

I think Liu Kang that whole like 20-25 minute set won like 3-5 rounds in total

You got insane reads, great use of Mileena's massive ass labs, teleports, and you only dropped the 50 percent combo once

My Liu Kang blocked that's about it.

[tough rock]

@wind hedge @kindred osprey sons playing MK if either of you want to fight him

[kindred osprey]

"Great use of Mileena's massive ass"
LMFAO

[wind hedge]

Jabs, my damn keyboard

[kindred osprey]

I'm in!
Gonna learn Kitana on the run

Gimme a kitana bnb?
Lol

[tough rock]

Liu kang knew what he was doing when he remade Kitana and Mileena

[tough rock]

B34 fan elevate move jump 112

Or jump 11 air Square wave

[kindred osprey]

Kitana is harder than she looks

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey i led you astray

[subtle oyster]

Gameplan revolves around back dash whiff punishes

[tough rock]

B24

Not 34

[kindred osprey]

B34 is working

LMAO

[subtle oyster]

B24 > db1 > j2 > j112

[kindred osprey]

Your son is cracked

[tough rock]

B2 is faster

[tough rock]

He kinda knows the Kitana match up lol

At least my kitana matchup

[kindred osprey]

It's my first time ever picking her

LMFAO
Johnny

[wind hedge]

I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna sleep on it. But today has been a terrible day for MK for me

I'll probably still try to play when I get back though

Since I'm definitely losing my mind trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong against Mileena other than trying to walk or throw a projectile

[kindred osprey]

THAT SHIT PARRIES GRABS?

Man...

I hate the easy fatalities

I just wanyed Ex hair ball

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey hell be back in a minute

[kindred osprey]

Ok!

[tough rock]

Asked jim to get the mail lol

@kindred osprey he's back but doesn't want to play. I got like 15 minutes free if you want

[kindred osprey]

Cool!

Man
Everyone hates Kung Lao

Lmao

[tough rock]

Okay I'm not as used to tekken as I thought

[kindred osprey]

I had Sub and got zoend

Man
Why he got such a good projectile!

?

[tough rock]

I can't believe that worked

NRS made the grappler the best zoner

Reiko throws 3 darts

Ex is 5

Sub tanks 5 projectiles

[kindred osprey]

Omfg
I thought he tanked everything for a set period of time

[tough rock]

That brutality almost makes me want to learn li mei

[kindred osprey]

Shit man
3 times in a row
Lmao

[tough rock]

Last one for me

[kindred osprey]

Ok
I did one

Happy

[tough rock]

Ggs

[kindred osprey]

GGs!!!!!

[tough rock]

Back to Tekken for me

[kindred osprey]

Lol

[tough rock]

When wife is sleeping lol

[kindred osprey]

Good luck!!!!

[tough rock]

I like it so much more than mk1

[kindred osprey]

Really?
I don't really like 3D games

[tough rock]

More fluid and fun. Less bs too

[kindred osprey]

BS is the most fun part!

Yolo Ball Rolls ftw

[wind hedge]

Well, I'm in for one last session of losses. Who is up?

[kindred osprey]

I am

Creating room

[wind hedge]

Luna just getting flawless

Luna, I'm gonna be honest. I think you might be too godlike for me to play against

Right never to murdered Oliver and Snake

[kindred osprey]

Backdashing vs Shao isn't that great an idea
He has RANGE

[wind hedge]

You're so incredible at like every character

[kindred osprey]

You could've killed

[wind hedge]

I could've but I'm bad at combos

Really bad actually

[kindred osprey]

Nah
You have the best execution I know

The grayscale bug

[wind hedge]

I'll play one more, I really think I don't have the skill have to play against you

GGs Luna I apologize for leaving early

[kindred osprey]

GGs!!!!!

[wind hedge]

I don't think I can play the game

[kindred osprey]

I apologize if it wasn't fun fighting me

[wind hedge]

No that's never the problem

You got better, I'm pretty garbage

I didn't adapt to shit, dropped about every combo possible, got hit by raw moves, raw fatal blows, and just didn't break well.

[kindred osprey]

I don't think so, honestly
I think you are pretty amazing
You never drop combos, your pressure is good
And you're applying the backdash mid punish for D1 mash way better than I for now

The raw moves, they are meant to hit like that
I want you to think I'm unpredictable and not get so comfortable at certain ranges
Shao specially has a super good B3 and F2, long range high low mix up and both lead to big combos

The raw fatal blows is because I fish for them
You noticed many times that I dash in and out, get close and then backdash
I'm literally baiting about any move from you, and I press the Fatal as soon as I see you doing anything

Shao's fatal blow is too slow
So I tend to do the low, B3 into it

R2+L2 is such an easy cmd for a super
I kinda feel like playing SF on Modern

[wind hedge]

I know you fish for them. I'm bad for never just adapting to them. It's the same with raw moves and such. I'm so terrible at changing the my gameplan the second something happens that I have trouble figuring out it's curtains

[kindred osprey]

And about this session...
I think I won so many times because of mainly three things

Shao's built in 50/50 with high low whenever I got any knockdown on you. You ate lots of those, and I think that's just bad luck
But you could've armored those, it'd make me respect your wake up more

Shao's range. You were fighting my Shao the same way you fought my Lao. Doing a mid and then backdash to fish for a D1 works against my Lao and probably my Reptile
But Mileena and Shao have range, and I punished you for it every time

Shao armored move is fast
Your F3 is multi hitting, so it breaks Mileena and Lao's armor, meaning I had to block when you meatied me
Shao's is significantly faster, so I was able to wake up reversal every time and to make it even worse, Shao comboes off of that
And Motaro keeps him relatively safe

But just bait me and try to punish accordingly
Motaro isn't Goro, that leaves me completely safe
You just need to delay a bit the punish to hit me with it

[wind hedge]

I accept that I legit don't know how to fight Shao, that's not why I'm so mad. I'm just mad because I did about nothing well with my character I'd say about all day. Like I don't think anything changed on my end from yesterday. That's why I think you just improved so much or I just got significantly worse

I'll certainly play again tomorrow but I really think I have no idea how to play MK

[kindred osprey]

I think you did inprove a lot
Specially the backdashes
You didn't use to do them, and now you're doing it quite well

Your AAs are also GODLIKE
I can barely D2 AA

[wind hedge]

You baited the vast majority of them though as Lao and Mileena

I might be backdashing but it didn't move the needle much because you adapted to it and I didn't adapt to that

[kindred osprey]

That's the problem
Lao and Mileena
Why didn't you AA Shao like that?
I don't think I had any air moves nor anything to fuck up your timing

[wind hedge]

Great question, I guess I was just slow today or had to much mental stack

[kindred osprey]

True, the mental stack is heavy

I think Shao makes it harder

Since he has the high low at anytime and the range

[wind hedge]

I just don't get why I feel I'm misunderstanding this whole game

Like I have a headache from just thinking about it all day

This game just feels so freaking hard to just troubleshoot or even fuck around and find out in

[kindred osprey]

It happens
I also feel lost sometimes
But keep trying out things and improving
You'll feel much better

[wind hedge]

I'm terrible at trying things out

I feel completely lost in MK right now.

[kindred osprey]

There is one thing I hate about KL
You can't win and not rematch

I really have to 3-0 the laggiest players...

Also
Why is "Friendly Rematch" the first option instead of "Next opponent"?

I feel bad when people accept it and I just leave on char selection screen

[tough rock]

Coming to a theater near you

[kindred osprey]

LMFAOOOOOOOO
Weirdly enough, I just fought a Sub Zero and a Geras today
Both with Sareena

[wind hedge]

https://vxtwitter.com/thelolhounds1/status/1715508002332213325?t=mJihM1PGvQWG_NHxiWQhuw&s=19

[kindred osprey]

Liu REALLY did Bi Han dirty in this timeline

Wait a sec
Kitana is actually minus in EVERYTHING?

There is only one string that is 0
The rest is EVERYTHING minus?

Does she even have a turn?
LMFAO

[wind hedge]

She just whiff punishes everything with he long ass normals

Like the ones everyone has except like Li Mei and apparently Liu Kang

[subtle oyster]

You can’t mash with her but yeah everyone has a turn lol

[wind hedge]

@subtle oyster you're gonna be on tomorrow?

[subtle oyster]

Probably not but I’ll lyk if I am

[wind hedge]

Ah alright

I'm gonna try to take a break this weekend and attempt to get back into it with hopefully a better mindset

[remote mountain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5XV99icC3g&ab_channel=Tweedy

i wnna learn smoke now

i was absolute dogshit with him when i started the game but maybe i can do it now lol

[kindred osprey]

@subtle oyster @wind hedge @tough rock

Kitana Day 1 LFG!!!!!!

Man
KL is AMAZING
I just made someone RAGE

Denied him his promotion

[kindred osprey]

People don't know how to Breaker?
I been doing 55% on people with full bar WAY too often

[wind hedge]

Man, I feel so weird about trying to enter KL for no reason other than assuming everyone in KL are actually gods

I might try it later today

[kindred osprey]

I just got to III. Warrior

No idea what that means or how many ranks there are

[wind hedge]

That's where I am right now actually

let me know if I stand a chance against the competition

[kindred osprey]

You do
For now, I think I only lost one set

And it fucking pains me that the only char I actually lost to was another Mileena...

[fiery thistle]

any pc gamers?

[wind hedge]

Alright I'm gonna play today and see what it's like

[wind hedge]

Nah I'm getting fucked on by a sub bro

This shit hard

[fiery thistle]

also who was asking about shao + lao

f2 does work with tp

[kindred osprey]

DOES?

Happy

Will lab later

[fiery thistle]

does with [r1]

have to do the air hit

[kindred osprey]

Wait
Ahhhhhhh
So I have to hold R1

Then j2, 12 Rest of the combo

[fiery thistle]

yeah but its really tight

youre not hit confirming it

[kindred osprey]

Ofc, I just guess right
Motaro too

[kindred osprey]

AMAZING