Mortal Kombat

[wind hedge]

Only thing that's got me in a bit of head lock is finding a good pop up assist

Scorpion and Goro are like the only ones

And I think scorpion is the best just because she gets pop up and a crumple

Also a freeze assist works for teleport combos but I don't know how much better they are

[kindred osprey]

Anyone up for some MK games?

[wind hedge]

Depend on if I'm allowed to clown

[kindred osprey]

Ofc
Lol

Ok
Getting on

[kindred osprey]

Inv sent

[wind hedge]

Alright I might be a minute

[kindred osprey]

Ok!

[subtle oyster]

Let’s goooo

[kindred osprey]

Wow
That was a good match
Tyler MUCH better than last time

[subtle oyster]

Tyler’s Liu is OD

[kindred osprey]

Yeah!!!!!
Man, that is so cool

Loving that

DROP

[wind hedge]

Your Mileena is still crazy though

[tough rock]

@wind hedge @kindred osprey I'm down for a little while

[kindred osprey]

Thxxxxx
Too many rolls and teleports tho

Wow
Super cool kombo

[kindred osprey]

We have to make a koth

And black screen?

[tough rock]

I'm expecting a phone call so I randomly might go afk

[kindred osprey]

Creating one

[kindred osprey]

I'll just brutality you if that happens
🙂

LMAO
Jk jk

[subtle oyster]

FUCKING KILLER

[kindred osprey]

YOU MURDERED OLIVER

[subtle oyster]

I brutaled him

[tough rock]

YOU BASTARDS!

[wind hedge]

When I say though, Liu Kang is one of my favorite characters. I just want him to have a skin that's just his MK9 one no fire

[subtle oyster]

I have a 9 frame mid irl too @tough rock

[subtle oyster]

You might get it

[wind hedge]

I think the fire is cool and all I just want a simple skin

Or give him a Raiden cosplay

What a bad Kameo. Get rid of it snake

[tough rock]

I like getting full combos off of projectiles

[kindred osprey]

Agree
Liu used to be my secondary back in Deception
But I like him as a zombie, not the alive version

[wind hedge]

Man Luna, you're just great at neutral

I couldn't grab you

[tough rock]

TIL Mileena has baraka blades

[wind hedge]

Why does no one know this?

[kindred osprey]

Ehhhhhh
Not that much
I just have a habit of shimmying because of SF

[subtle oyster]

There is an MK term called an auto-shimmy, so you don’t always have to walk backwards to shimmy people in this game

[kindred osprey]

Aw
Thought that was punishable

And wow
More sand for his hourglass

Lmao

[wind hedge]

Geras better shut his God of Destruction ass up

[kindred osprey]

How to do that?

[tough rock]

My favorite brutality from 11

[kindred osprey]

Yup
The guy just straight up steals Beerus phrases

I am so happy
Fighting y'all rn...
I feel like the game finally "clicked"

Things are starting to make more sense rn

[wind hedge]

@tough rock is there really always lag between us?

[tough rock]

I think so

At least in koth

[wind hedge]

Weird

[kindred osprey]

Why tho?
I mean, I'm probably much farther than you two from each other

And it's pretty good here

SHIT
That is punishable

[subtle oyster]

In general, it’s a jab string that looks like a throw. In SF, you throw loop then walk backwards for the shimmy. You can still do that in this game. For an auto-shimmy, you can walk forward (even potentially hesitate a bit) do a jab string like Mileena’s 1-2 string and it will hit the neutral ducker who is expecting throw.

[kindred osprey]

I just killed myself
Lmao

Ok...
I need to stop the teleports and rolls in neutral

[subtle oyster]

If they try to tech the throw they will get hit also

[kindred osprey]

I just really felt like you'd press buttons there

[subtle oyster]

Unless you have Goro😈

[kindred osprey]

I will lab that
Lmao

[kindred osprey]

AH
Makes a lot of sense, since they don't have to break the throw and can just duck it
I imagine that would work a lot

We just doing brutalities today?
Lmao

[wind hedge]

On God, do her strings ever end?

I stand by that she's good everything

[tough rock]

I've got those two burned into my brain from Invasion farming lol

[subtle oyster]

It’s the KOTH which is why I wanna prefer to play private online

[kindred osprey]

Omg
Mileena needs an heir

The Sub Zero armor

LMFAO

Kitana just stood there with 10 projectiles hitting

Comboing from the throw is so cool

I miss the old bicycle kick

[wind hedge]

I thought it went away after 4 fireballs blocks

[tough rock]

5

[wind hedge]

WOOOOOW

[kindred osprey]

Oh

[wind hedge]

I'm sad

[kindred osprey]

Me too

WTF

[wind hedge]

Wow

[kindred osprey]

That was a jab

[wind hedge]

I guess you don't like Liu Kang

[kindred osprey]

I think I spent my easy fatality

LMAO

[tough rock]

Just like when I try to sweep with kitana and somehow do her Kiss of Death

[kindred osprey]

I don't even know the cmd for that one yet

[wind hedge]

Mileena is just impossible catch

[kindred osprey]

Ah
It was
Evil Sindel was cool

The snap

Lol

[wind hedge]

Time to throw

Man even the character select is laggy

[kindred osprey]

Tanya
Cool af
I wanna give her a chance, but like...
Idk, her gameplay just doesn't appeal to me

[wind hedge]

Man gun to my head. Kitana is the dumbest character designed

I tell you

I think Shang was supposed to be the zoner

[kindred osprey]

Lol
Shao doubting Geras

[wind hedge]

Kitana has anti air fans man, where's the anti guide

[subtle oyster]

Kitana might be the best design wise imo lol

[wind hedge]

I got a feeling because she's so great at zoning she'll be a permanent problem for me.

[kindred osprey]

Man
I forget the snap

[wind hedge]

And it's not the just jump/duck the fireball zoning like everyone else

[kindred osprey]

Snake left?

[tough rock]

Got the phone call. Ggs everyone

[kindred osprey]

GGs!!!!!

[wind hedge]

GGs

[tough rock]

Actually got the call during that first round. The one I won with like 3% left lol

[wind hedge]

I see Luna is the Zero of MK from now on

[kindred osprey]

That shit was robbery

[kindred osprey]

Brooooooo
Nah, Snake is MUCH better than me

[subtle oyster]

What’s the Zero of MK?

[wind hedge]

Mean they're good and a total bully

[kindred osprey]

I'm notttttt

[wind hedge]

Luna out here gate keeping

Fine I'll try Tanya another day

[kindred osprey]

You beat me half the times with Liu VS Mileena

LMAO

Idk why I did that

[subtle oyster]

Y’all should try a private match and test the connection difference vs the KOTH. It has been night and day for me

[kindred osprey]

DROP

Yeah
I do need Mileena vs Liu

I'll take it
LMFAO

[wind hedge]

Man where is my 3 input going

[kindred osprey]

ROBBERY

[wind hedge]

Man I don't know what you need MU for you're keeping distance super well

[kindred osprey]

I'm walking back by habit tbh
SF

LUCK

[wind hedge]

Not luck

I'm telling you, your Mileena is cracked

[kindred osprey]

So is your Liu

Very close matches these

[wind hedge]

Man you're out distancing me very hard and make some comeback where you don't let me touch you

[kindred osprey]

Nah
Your combos are great and you punish me HARD for stuff I do wrong

[vague creek]

It said badly

[subtle oyster]

You’re right

You’re so right

[wind hedge]

https://reddit.com/r/MortalKombat/s/RmhBvXRD0T

I'm very curious if this real

Or how real rather

[subtle oyster]

I think it is

Just lab your combos on p2 side and you’ll be fine

[wind hedge]

I gotta start doing the pressure I actually learned

[kindred osprey]

Lol

[subtle oyster]

For which character

[kindred osprey]

I need to learn some

[subtle oyster]

I will show

Just not home😔

[wind hedge]

Liu Kang

[kindred osprey]

Thxxxxxx

Rlx
No rush

[wind hedge]

It's like punish D1 22 repeat

[kindred osprey]

Welp...
You just won the fourth in a row

I need to learn how to open you up

[wind hedge]

I'm sorry, I'm trying to work on sand bagging less.

[kindred osprey]

Play whoever you want!

This is being super fun

Lol

[wind hedge]

Another person from a different discord just tells me to "PLAY TH3 DAMN GAME" instead of being mad

[kindred osprey]

LOL

[wind hedge]

You see that fatal blow glitch?

[kindred osprey]

Yes

[wind hedge]

We were playing in grey scale for like one whole round

[kindred osprey]

The black and white and no music

The music disturbed me the most

[wind hedge]

Does it kill?

Somebody get Samjam on the phone

Motaro is kinda stupid even though I'm not using half of his moves

[kindred osprey]

I'm playing worse, aren't I?
Feeling a bit tired
Lol

[wind hedge]

Nah it's fine to be honest. I had questions about Sonya though

When we're done

[subtle oyster]

You don’t need to use all the kameos moves

[wind hedge]

Mainly the fact that I don't even know she had pop up since I've never seen it used

So it's weird seeing it

[kindred osprey]

Pop up?

[wind hedge]

That was one TENSE ass round right there

I got one more game

[kindred osprey]

Yesssss

Ok!

[wind hedge]

Where she grabs you with her legs and throws you into the ground so they pop up

[kindred osprey]

AH
Yeah, not as good as Goro's or Jax
But useful

Aw
Thought I had it
Lol

[wind hedge]

GGs

[kindred osprey]

GGs!!!!!

[wind hedge]

I can't believe I punished the Fatal though

[kindred osprey]

I feel like I learned a lot from today

[wind hedge]

Biggest things I learned is I guess Liu kang really does hit hard without meter

Also Fatal blow for 50 percent, was doubting how likely it was to land

[subtle oyster]

I feel like most people don’t hit hard without meter

[kindred osprey]

It worked very well

[kindred osprey]

Me too
Liu and Mileena really feel privileged

[wind hedge]

Yeah I mean like average he gets like 30% to 35% I feel

[subtle oyster]

That’s pretty good meterless I feel. They toned it down in the stress test when Ninjakilla was hitting 50+%

[wind hedge]

@kindred osprey real quick question. Did you have trouble blocking the Liu Kang mid stagger?

I want to know if I'm going it right

[kindred osprey]

What is a mid stagger?

[wind hedge]

Um, just like me pushing a mid button into another mid button

[kindred osprey]

I noticed the button you were using was a mid
Which fucked me up a bit since I got hit sometimes trying to duck it

[wind hedge]

Like his kicks, that down punch, and one other move

[kindred osprey]

Yeah, I didn't really know what to do

Mileena doesn't know what a mid is

And very few lows...

[kindred osprey]

And since I couldn't interrupt you, I just took some of those and prayed the bars filled so I could use the breaker

Lmao

[wind hedge]

Alright so I'm doing that right. That's good to hear

My sub goal RN is to find my Tanya Kameo

[subtle oyster]

A stagger is an MK term where you don’t finish the entire string in order to catch them off guard or pressing. It’s the most important concept in pressuring imo

[kindred osprey]

Ohhhhh
Makes sense
I do that very little tbh
I should do more

[wind hedge]

Yeah sorry I couldn't word it better

But that's what I was trying to do there

[kindred osprey]

But yeah, worked very well
Mostly because I didn't know what to do
Cr. Jab isn't as good as in SF and Kof, right?

[wind hedge]

That button is your fastest for the most part

Also that button can't be punished on block unless it's another D1

[tough rock]

Geras Kitana and Mileena say hi

[wind hedge]

Damn no Johnny or Liu Kang?

[tough rock]

Also, anyone still playing?

Just got home

[wind hedge]

I'm just looking for Kameo's that work well with Tanya

I need to figure it out since it's like between Scorpion, Goro, Sub, and Frost

[tough rock]

@wind hedge @kindred osprey either of you down for 1v1s?

Non koth

[subtle oyster]

I’m gonna see if the update fixed PC when I get home and then I’d be down to play

If it doesn’t fix it

[kindred osprey]

I'm here!
Still want to?

[tough rock]

Sure

[kindred osprey]

Ok!
Omw

Game session no longer available

[wind hedge]

https://vxtwitter.com/CrzyFingers/status/1706748917725975029?t=HEZWtlOiz4hn4oZIF6kzYw&s=19

@kindred osprey

[tough rock]

Got sent some salty dms

1v1 ing this dude quick

[kindred osprey]

LMFAO
Ok

[wind hedge]

Get a clip for us

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey im free

[kindred osprey]

Didn't know we could breaker a Fatal Blow

[tough rock]

Found that out in the beta lol

[fiery thistle]

huh??

[kindred osprey]

That a cmd grab?

[tough rock]

Which move?

[kindred osprey]

The fatal blow

[tough rock]

Not sure

Mid according to the move list

[kindred osprey]

NOOOOOOOOOO

[subtle oyster]

PC port for me is still not fixed😌

[kindred osprey]

THAT DIDN'T KILL

I feel robbed

Should've done teleport
Lol

[tough rock]

That 50 extra health from Sub came in clutch

[kindred osprey]

Would've chipped

[tough rock]

Geras crossed himself up

[kindred osprey]

LOL

[kindred osprey]

I MESSED UP

[tough rock]

Kitana's lack of mids is starting to annoy me

[kindred osprey]

Mileena had no mids either

I guess Sindel didn't teach her kids that well

[tough rock]

Mileena has the yolo factor though

[kindred osprey]

Hehe

[tough rock]

Which makes up for no mids

This Liu Kang is straight out of MK11

[kindred osprey]

It IS the same one

[tough rock]

And it took a while for a black screen glitch

[kindred osprey]

Yes...

I need to quit game, right?

[tough rock]

It'll back us out in a second

[kindred osprey]

Already quit
Lol

[tough rock]

Mk1 Liu Kang doesn't have a parry or a command grab

But he does have F4

[kindred osprey]

The Kenshi treatment

[tough rock]

Last one @kindred osprey

[subtle oyster]

They gave him combos in exchange for a shittier low fireball lol

[kindred osprey]

GGs!!!!!

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey ggs

[kindred osprey]

Super fun games

[tough rock]

Agreed

[wind hedge]

Someone who uses these Kameo's. Let me know about Scorpion vs Goro in neutral and offense

Since it's between these 2 for me rn

[tough rock]

Goro makes like any string plus on block and Scorpion mostly gives aerial juggles

[subtle oyster]

Scorpion also gives an overhead launcher

[tough rock]

I keep forgetting about that

[subtle oyster]

I haven’t labbed Tanya but I assume Goro will make her arrow kick safe/plus to make it more of a threat in neutral. And will potentially give you more plus on block strings for pressure. Scorpion gives the overhead launcher and surely gives you much bigger combos

[wind hedge]

Well I'd never do the full screen mid that's just me personally. And her main 2 strings are weirdly safe?

The staff spin and her like 5 lows or something like that

Are both safe

[subtle oyster]

If you’ll never do the full screen mid you probably don’t need goro kameo

[wind hedge]

Alright I'm just messing with her and these are the 2 landed on.

[tough rock]

@subtle oyster Roofle just out out a Geras beginner guide. I'm curious

[subtle oyster]

It’s gonna be hella basic I bet

[tough rock]

I stopped watching 6 minutes in

[subtle oyster]

@kindred osprey I’m going to send you some videos

Of Mileena

[kindred osprey]

Oh yesssssss

I need it

[subtle oyster]

@kindred osprey First: her stagger off standing 1. This is plus on block and will catch a lot of people slipping. These are great follow ups after this stagger to pressure

Notice how fast the throw is after that. If you do this into a throw a couple of times then the opponent will start ducking after which can lead to a combo off 1-2 or f1 into ball roll

If they are mashing d1 every time to stop it then your d1 will beat theirs

Second: Pressure with Goro

Off 1-2 string, you can call goro in for plus frames and keep your turn. You will have plenty of time to get her double overhead in, go for a throw, do another 1-2 string, do her f1 string, or do f1 stagger into one of the options in the first video!

This was the video I meant to send, my PS app is being weird.

Shows the same shit tho

Third: Spacing off her 1-2 string

Her 1-2 string leaves her at the perfect space to stay aggressive on block and get whiff punishes. Definitely look to walk back and look for the whiff punish after like this video:

Fourth: Ball rolls are now safe with Goro. You can play like a crackhead with no repercussions

Last, her armored wakeup (similar to a DP) is now safe on block with Goro. I had Johnny pressure on wakeup and block on wakeup to bait it for a punish. This video shows that

So that should get you started minus some combos but I think you got those already

You can also do f1 which is the mid into a stagger as long as you make them respect f1-3-3

[kindred osprey]

AMAZING
Will do it more often
I knew the standing 1 was plus, but I thought it was just +1, not enough to do anything

[kindred osprey]

Oh yes!
This one I've been doing already
Super good

[kindred osprey]

@wind hedge knows that well now
Lol

[wind hedge]

Ah I'm just gonna hit you with the "fuck around and find out"

[kindred osprey]

Ok
So I REALLY need to lab the Goro timings
Cuz I tried today and failed miserably
I think I'm doing it too late
When do you press the assist?

[subtle oyster]

There’s a not a ton you can do off it, but those are some. You can also 1 stagger and try to make a d1 whiff

[wind hedge]

It also doesn't hit crouching right?

[kindred osprey]

It doesn't...
Mileena only has one mid

And no low starters

[subtle oyster]

But you need to do staggers to vary your offense and keep them guessing. Don’t do it all the time

Her f1 mid is good and you can stagger off that even though it’s minus

You can also do f1 into ball roll if you know they’re ducking now cause you can keep it safe with goro

[kindred osprey]

Can't I just do f133, Goro for the plus?

Also good option

[subtle oyster]

You should be able to use Goro after all your strings

[kindred osprey]

Amazing...
I'll lab the timing for Goro tomorrow for sure

[subtle oyster]

You press goro after he blocks it

[kindred osprey]

Ah
After?
Can I hit confirm it?

[subtle oyster]

Yes you can which you should practice

[kindred osprey]

Or like...
Block confirm?

Not press if they don't block

Lmao

[subtle oyster]

Yes. Set the dummy to block “random attack”. I’ll show a vid on that

[kindred osprey]

No need!!!!!!
It's fine, I know how to lab
Lol

Thxxxxx

That is so great tho
Thank you so much for those tips

Feeling confident
I'll make that Geras pay tomorrow...

[kindred osprey]

Sorry
That came out pretty rude when I read it again

Think I fixed it now

[subtle oyster]

Too late

[kindred osprey]

SORRY!!!!!!!!

[subtle oyster]

So Goro will still launch them even if you press it. Idk the optimal combo but you can still combo off him if you mess it up

[subtle oyster]

I didn’t take it offensively lol you’re good

Regular ball roll without Goro will probably net more damage

[kindred osprey]

Actually...
I think I'll just lab comboing off of him too
Seems like the bnb would be the same, just a bit delayed now

[subtle oyster]

I need to practice the confirm more cause one of the blocked ones was slow

[subtle oyster]

I don’t think it’s the same cause the gravity seems to increase after Goro

[kindred osprey]

I think we can do the same...
Maybe
Hopefully
I'll do my best to find out

[kindred osprey]

Maybe
But like, the bnb here would probably just be j. 12, air ball
Fall to the ground, dash and f4

Or fall and do down teleport

I think those should connect since we're not doing any more juggles, just hard knockdowns

Those two always connect even if I have used Sonya, Ex Up Teleport and the ball in the same combo
They should connect with just the ball and Goro

I think the problem is just timing...
The delay will be weird

But I think we can make it work

[subtle oyster]

I would do whatever bnb you want but I think if Goro launches them they will fall faster

My last video isn’t downloading

@kindred osprey

She becomes the best counter zoner in the game and can win pretty much any fireball war. You can harass with her projectiles and then counterzone them. If you mess up and they block it then send Goro lol

Ball roll will low profile high projectiles but will get hit by mid and low projectiles

Oh also @kindred osprey and @wind hedge I would try to learn how to dash block in your free time. Some characters don’t have great dashes like Liu and others have amazing dashes like Johnny. Some are good like Mileena

It will make you faster

[sterile scarab]

https://vxtwitter.com/DolphinbotX/status/1706716761544950027?s=20

[wind hedge]

Fun fact for all you cool gamers. Tanya has dash normals when she has her teleport stocked up

But does blocking just end your dash recovery?

[subtle oyster]

Kinda yeah

[wind hedge]

Alright very neat

[subtle oyster]

It’s stupid fast with Johnny lol

He’s privileged

Also if you have a string that starts with forward, you can just hit forward once then hit forward with the string and you’ll get a dash before the normal. It’s good for whiff punishes

The second forward will register the dash and the attack

[wind hedge]

But Tanya is goofy

I ain't ever seen someone whiff punish so far

Plus she's got at least a small bit of strike throw

[subtle oyster]

@kindred osprey Mileena’s f1 is an amazing stagger even if it’s minus. Because she delays the follow up attack

[subtle oyster]

Exactly she ain’t shit

[wind hedge]

Not I typed that wrong. She whiff punishes people from so far away.

Like Kitana does it, but she has more range though

So Tanya doesn't seem to have many issues other than a lot highs

[subtle oyster]

I know that’s what you meant

[wind hedge]

Oh my B sorry

I don't get why she's not liked. It's weird to me. Maybe it really is just because she was better in the last game she was in

[subtle oyster]

Not many people like the character design I don’t think

[wind hedge]

Oh and her counter is really weird. Since our damn near can get a full combo from an overhead starter if you know the teleport combo

I vibe with her

[subtle oyster]

@kindred osprey

Her offense off f1

F1 into throw is really strong

And that will help open up the the follow up hits on f1-4-4

And you can do f1 into ball roll for a launch

[subtle oyster]

You have good neutral so you might like her

Her stagger pressure off one of her pole swing moves is good

[kindred osprey]

Then again, that is the ender for a combo that has Ex Teleport, Sonya and the normal roll as juggles
I think the enhanced gravity won't be a problem

[kindred osprey]

Amazing!!!!!

[kindred osprey]

Oh yes
I need to work on approach in general

[kindred osprey]

Ahhhhh
Meaning I can just cancel into the 33 whenever and the opponent knows thag

[subtle oyster]

Yes they work hand in hand. It’s a near 50/50 because of how much she delays the hits of the 44 after

[kindred osprey]

Great!!!!

Oh
Yeah, 44, not 33

[subtle oyster]

They will literally have to guess

But if they are respecting it or are defensive players you can do the stagger into the overhead also

If you think they will try to down 1 then you can try to back walk and punish

[kindred osprey]

Great!
Learning a lot rn

Gonna try all those

I might actually go play once gf sleeps
Lmao

I do have classes tomorrow but...
MORTAL KOMBATTTTT

[subtle oyster]

She can punish button mash well with f1 into ball

There’s no risk to it with Goro since it’s not hit confirmable

[kindred osprey]

You can do F1 44 into ball for some more hits to confirm

[subtle oyster]

I’m a fucking idiot for some reason I didn’t think she could special cancel off that lmao

Then do that

No reason to do f1 into ball roll

[kindred osprey]

You have to cancel before the last hit
But she can

I was gonna lab but...
F1, 44, Goro doesn't combo into roll?

[subtle oyster]

It probably won’t. I would just hit confirm the string into ball roll off the f1

Or do ball roll and be ready for goro kameo if you conditioned them to duck or press with the throw/stagger

The strike throw mix/stagger pressure that I showed will help open them up on the hits of the 44 so you will get more combos

[kindred osprey]

I've been doing that with Sonya, so I think it's possible
I just don't know if it's really optimal

[subtle oyster]

I found a 41% combo with her off standing 1-2

No kameo

Pretty sure you can get more tho

[subtle oyster]

@tough rock trueunderdawg’s tier list is fucking stupid lol. He put the characters he plays at the bottom lmfao

[tough rock]

I'm not giving him the view on that video

[kindred osprey]

LMFAOOOOOO
Downplayer

[vague creek]

Did a balance patch happen?

[wind hedge]

Wasn't it bug fixes and stability stuff?

[wind hedge]

https://vxtwitter.com/bambamguitar/status/1706830161545732581?t=rxgZwWfsbHlvalXIRtlRVA&s=19

[subtle oyster]

He had Kitana bottom 1 lmfao

He’s a scrubby bitch

His top 5 was actually okay

[tough rock]

He'll get dropped by a kitana and make a video crying for nerfs within 2 weeks

[fiery thistle]

me whenever I play against smoke

[tough rock]

And not realize you can neutral duck 80% of Kitana's moves and her only mid strings have a strict special cancel window

So when that Kitana drops him, it took somewhat more skill than using someone like Baraka or Smoke

[subtle oyster]

He plays kitana every year and down plays…. Every time without fail

[wind hedge]

Remind me to start down playing Liu Kang

[subtle oyster]

Pretty much every character I’ve played so far are S or A tier I’m at least gonna own that

@tough rock he said reptile was crazy good. I haven’t heard anyone say that. He’s mid

[tough rock]

Reptile is good because he's got literally everything a beginner would need to learn MK1

[wind hedge]

Foxy started playing him

[tough rock]

Reptile is Ryu

[subtle oyster]

Liu is a really strong character who is incredibly honest. You have to outplay your opponent every time

Liu is Ryu imo

[wind hedge]

Yeah that's good reason to downplay

"I have no high low 😭" buff Liu

[subtle oyster]

You can’t really put a mfer in the blender like you can with Kenshi or Johnny

[wind hedge]

Honest characters in a game full of dishonest characters tend to suffer. But I don't know what it's like in NRS games

[subtle oyster]

Liu was honest last game and fucking goated

But the game was more honest lol

[tough rock]

I literally had to convince you of this too

[wind hedge]

I see, most of the honest characters I play eat shit a lot just because of how DISHONEST everyone else it.

[subtle oyster]

No you did not I played Liu for a while

[subtle oyster]

This is an entirely new game with kameos tho

[tough rock]

Imma find these messages at some point

[subtle oyster]

I mained the mfer

I’m all for downplaying but if he’s honest he’s honest

[wind hedge]

Like because I haven't seen anything crazy playing. But smoke seems crazy honest the second you know what his teleports look like.

And his low/overhead strings

[subtle oyster]

I’m pretty sure pro players aren’t too high on him

I have seen one insane smoke in tourney tho

Like actually fucking insane with his smoke dashes

And cancels

[wind hedge]

Tanya looks like a "bracket ruiner"

Same way Goldlewis was when he first came out. So no one played him but someone pulled him out in finals and clowned on him

[subtle oyster]

That could be a fair assessment of her so far

I think one of the best pro players plays Tanya but he might not use her in tourneys

[wind hedge]

She's gotta be the least seen character with a lot of stuff she can do that many people don't know.

[subtle oyster]

Yeah I’ve yet to face one

All I’ve seen is that stagger string. F1 maybe?

[wind hedge]

Like this was just a "lab thing" but Johnny's 21X string. Where he either does a launcher or an overhead.

She can kinda block the low but absolutely parry the overhead

[subtle oyster]

You can fuzzy it

[wind hedge]

I don't know anything about fuzzy to be honest. It was more of me testing what the start up for it was.

It seems like a frame trap magnet. Like if I were to 22 with Liu Kang into B2 it would easily get caught.

Stuff like that

[subtle oyster]

Fuzzy guarding is when for example there is a 50/50 you have to block. It isn’t a true 50/50 so you can block low first then immediately block high to check both options

I’m pretty sure you can fuzzy Johnny’s 21 string cause I did it in Kombat league against inferior Johnnys

😎

[subtle oyster]

Looks like Dragon is fucking cooking with Kitana/Scorpion

[wind hedge]

He uses Tanya also that's the only reason why I know his name.

[subtle oyster]

He is one of the best pros

Basically dominated with Cetrion all MK11

[tough rock]

Glad to see this P1 advantage bug exist

I thought I was going crazy by dropping Kitana combos I normally get

[subtle oyster]

Ed Boon just tweeted they found a fix and will implement an update soon

So we’re about to find out if it’s a skill issue👀👀👀

[remote mountain]

LMAO winning a set with Jax EX Grab 3 times in a row is the funniest shit ever

just meterdumping it while he just hulk slams him 20 times

[wind hedge]

I love foxy grandpa. He makes being toxic look so fun

[subtle oyster]

He’s not even toxic tbh he’s just an amazing zoner and it infuriates people

He doesn’t talk shit until the opponent is furious on the mic talking shit to him and he just makes them look like an idiot every time

It’s so entertaining

[wind hedge]

It also is funny that no one knows how to deal with Shang projectile spam.

Not saying I would either

[subtle oyster]

It’s hard when you’re playing against a player that always knows what you’re going to do

But it’s also funny in a game where you have teleports and sub zero kameo and all kinds of shit to deal with it

[wind hedge]

Time to play Tanya in invasion

[subtle oyster]

Huge W

[tough rock]

No black screen fix though

[subtle oyster]

I thought the patch today was supposed to fix that

[tough rock]

There was a patch?

I'm still at work so I haven't checked

[wind hedge]

Yeah it dropped today

[subtle oyster]

Pc Gentlemen, it is with great pleasure to inform you that my game is in working condition and I am available to play.

[remote mountain]

YOOOO, ill be on in like 3 hrs if ur down

[subtle oyster]

I’m so fucking happy rn I’m headed to the liquor store. My tourney friend has been dying to play with me and we’re gonna run it and I’ll probably be on in 3 hours

[remote mountain]

did u do anything specific to fix it? or was it the patch

[subtle oyster]

Some Angel sent from heaven in a twitch chat told me to change my power settings in windows to Balanced from high performance because that affects the different cores in the CPU for the specific model of CPU I have. And it fucking worked.

[torpid sentinel]

@wind hedge games?

[remote mountain]

ah i see, yea i think i have that setting turned on too so maybe thats why it worked fine for me even tho i have worse pc parts

[wind hedge]

Ah sorry I'm watching Naruto

https://vxtwitter.com/HenTy56/status/1707186839780745670?t=pJlUwTPLC3rodnZi_SbL-w&s=19

Luna and I truly were scrapping

[kindred osprey]

Where are you there?
Like, which arc?

[kindred osprey]

Good round

[wind hedge]

Naruto is learning how to spin his chakra

[kindred osprey]

Ohhhhhh
Still in the classic
Super cool
Liking it? First time watching?

[wind hedge]

Yeah I'm enjoying it, it's my first time watching it.

[kindred osprey]

Super cool
Hope you like it
I am a big Naruto fan
Fav char?

[wind hedge]

Um I guess so far it's Naruto

I respect his hustle

[kindred osprey]

Oh
Sasuke fan here
The guy suffered too

[wind hedge]

Yeah but I haven't seen him struggle in training yet. Just how unfortunate everything planned out for him when he was younger

If you asked me about a week ago I would've said inner Sakura.

[kindred osprey]

LOL
She is cool
Even tho I hate Sakura as a whole tbh

[subtle oyster]

PC PORT RUNS GREAT NOW

The input lag is somehow better than PS5 which is already great

I hit moves too fast

[subtle oyster]

Do you wanna play?

[remote mountain]

i waa making dinner but im down now

[subtle oyster]

Hell yeah

Sent a DM

[wind hedge]

Alright, it's been long enough I feel

Has anyone even SEEN a Rain player?

[kindred osprey]

LMFAOOOOOOO
Nope

I thought they were urban legends?

[subtle oyster]

Are Rain and Nitara even the roster?

[tough rock]

Two and they played full screen and didn't realize or use all the overhead mixups he has

[subtle oyster]

https://reddit.com/r/MortalKombat/s/HrUgJj5IGv

[tough rock]

Back to back 12 hour shifts has me drained. But I somehow want to play MK1. If anyone's on ping me for some games lol

[subtle oyster]

Game gud

Wish I was home otherwise I’d play

I’m bout to learn Kitana she is OD

[vague creek]

Don't you mean... "bottom 1"

[subtle oyster]

Guaranteed things in life include death, taxes, and Edenian Stans downplaying Kitana

I wouldn’t mind if they buffed her tho. Sub needs it the most tho

[tough rock]

I just fought against my first level 100 player

[subtle oyster]

How was that

[tough rock]

Played like he only grinded invasions and played zero online

[subtle oyster]

That’s what I figured lol

You don’t get that much XP online

It ain’t much but it’s honest work

[tough rock]

Granted he rematched me three times in kasual. Not sure if he needed the Geras knowledge or not

[subtle oyster]

He probably just having fun playing the game

[tough rock]

Yeah that too

Also good God my Kitana is not ready for Online

[remote mountain]

im learning kitana too, you should check out retrhoe on youtube

literally the best kitana ive seen who makes actually good guides

[subtle oyster]

She can shimmy and whiff punish the fuck outta people

[remote mountain]

too bad she doesnt have a single overhead 💀

i like her meterless extension combos with DB1 tho

[subtle oyster]

Dope ass combos aside that’s why you use scorpion kameo

[kindred osprey]

@MK Matchmaking

Anyone on rn?
Lol

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey yes

[subtle oyster]

I wish I was home y’all always on when I’m at work 😔

[remote mountain]

The cyrax combo looks broken on her rn tbh

[tough rock]

I just gotta get used to online timing on my kitana combos

[kindred osprey]

When do you get home?

[subtle oyster]

I’ll be on in a couple hours

[kindred osprey]

I left the offline input lag always on
Lmao

[subtle oyster]

I haven’t seen it

[kindred osprey]

Ping me

[remote mountain]

full combos from her 112, b33, can combo off throws, improves chip dmg combos, unblockable setups

and more

https://youtu.be/7Kffaigoz3M?si=dxXuqSgotBqnKdhO

[subtle oyster]

Is that what that guy uses?

Beat me to it lmao

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey im on now if you're free

[remote mountain]

he also made a vid for scorp but he didnt like it as much

[kindred osprey]

Yessssss

[remote mountain]

but the scorp guide is still pretty good

[subtle oyster]

Interesting I’ll take a look at it

[kindred osprey]

Booting up

[subtle oyster]

That is the most straightforward useful guide I have ever seen in a fighting game

I pity the people who waste 30 minutes of their life on a fucking Rooflemonger video

I think cyrax is just fucking broken lol

[remote mountain]

Yeah his other guides are goated too, his bnb vid and his pressure vid are all really solid

[subtle oyster]

The unblockable setups is the selling point for me. I could care less about winning by chip

[remote mountain]

also true

[subtle oyster]

She can maul people with Sub Zero too

[remote mountain]

kitana gets some unblockable setups with goro too, tho not nearly everything else cyrax gives

[subtle oyster]

Having a kameo for constant pressure is the move I think

[remote mountain]

true every day i consider swapping jax over to cyrax for scorp now lmao

[subtle oyster]

Her strike throw game off her stagger is really damn good

[remote mountain]

the free plus frames and the ability to have good pressure is a godsend

yea kitana even gets combos off her back throw too with cyrax

[subtle oyster]

You may want to look at Kano also even though he’s not meta rn

Skill floor is a big increase to cyrax but you might be able to do Kano knive setups into teleport and you’re plus like 40 lol

[remote mountain]

interesting, ill have to try it for myself cuz this is the first time ive ever heard of that combo lmao

[subtle oyster]

Just brainstorming off the top of my head

[kindred osprey]

ROBBED

[subtle oyster]

It’s probably not that good. My scrub ass would use Sareena for the easy last hit of the 2-1 confirm

Also can do f3 into her mid

Idk why I wasn’t doing that last night but I was hammered

[remote mountain]

i mean it wouldnt hurt for me to experiment more with scorps kameos since i only use jax for the bnb extension and extra health instead of solving his core issues

[subtle oyster]

The good news is scorps damage without kameo is fucking amazing so you have options

He definitely needs it tho

I might actually try that too cause Kano is a ton of fun

You can do knife toss into amplified teleport and you’ll be plus as fuck if they block it and you should be able to combo them if they don’t

[remote mountain]

is knife toss mid?

[subtle oyster]

It’s a high but if they duck it then f3 their ass

Kano ball is a mid

[remote mountain]

and honestly could just do what avrik does and do an aerial teleport and land with a jump attack alongside kano knifes so you can hit ducking and not waste meter

ill have to see if i can actually do that tho lmao

[subtle oyster]

Yeah idrk the properties on scorps tele in this game cause I haven’t labbed it nor do that many people use him

[tough rock]

I'm gonna hit random

[subtle oyster]

And the knives or Kano ball will give him safety if you do 2-1 into spear on block. He might be kinda dope actually

[kindred osprey]

Oof
Rain

[tough rock]

Bruh there isn't a hidden cursor option?

This is blasphemous

@subtle oyster

[kindred osprey]

Good question

[subtle oyster]

How much are you trying to sweat?

I don’t think so

There’s not a need for one in this game tho

[tough rock]

Ultimate way to have fun

[subtle oyster]

Like you can’t counterpick in ranked mode in this game anyways so you don’t need it

[kindred osprey]

LOL

Fucking sektor man

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey ngl I thought I was Kenshi for the first like 10 seconds

[kindred osprey]

LMFAO

I have no idea how to play him
I mashed buttons

THE PARRY

[tough rock]

I'm confused

[kindred osprey]

I didn't know it worked on grabs

[tough rock]

How did Reptile's FB not connect off a 11 string?

[kindred osprey]

Low tier

[tough rock]

Player 1 advantage

[subtle oyster]

I think quite a few don’t

[kindred osprey]

The Scorp mirror

[tough rock]

I was pressing MK11 scorpion buttons and expecting MK11 results

[kindred osprey]

Lol
I never played Scorp

[tough rock]

Same deal with Shao lol

[kindred osprey]

Omg
I liked him

[tough rock]

Mk11 buttons don't work with MK1 shao

[kindred osprey]

Why did I like the jobber?

Lol

[tough rock]

Because he has a realistic moveset maybe?

[kindred osprey]

I think it's the cmd grabs

[tough rock]

Lovers quarrel

[kindred osprey]

I liked Ashrah
Might give her a chance later

Aw

Man
Random is broken

[tough rock]

Me on the other hand, I can't stand reptile

[kindred osprey]

3 Ashrahs in sequence?

[subtle oyster]

I’ve gotten better with her she’s good af

[kindred osprey]

Yeah, she looks great

[tough rock]

@subtle oyster 's favorite move

The Mid command grab

[subtle oyster]

Fuck that shit

Reiko is now my enemy

Even his fucking fatal blow is a mid cmd grab

Literally Zangief who can zone

[tough rock]

At least mid grab costs two bars

Absolutely stolen

[subtle oyster]

That’s true and it makes it more fair. Not nearly Kotal Kahn levels of brain dead

[kindred osprey]

Last match

[tough rock]

Mine too lol

[kindred osprey]

GGs!!!!!!

[tough rock]

Ggs

[subtle oyster]

Time to lab me some Kitana

[tough rock]

The shop reset

DEADLY ALLIANCE SCORPION

[wind hedge]

Where's the cool skins at? I don't play scorp

[tough rock]

I'm about to play Scorpion just because of this skin lol

[kindred osprey]

I HOPE we get PS2 skins
I want Mileena Deception

[tough rock]

[kindred osprey]

Aw, cmon
Not even asking for MK9 skins

Lmao

Back to playing
Anyone up for some MK?

[subtle oyster]

@remote mountain this guy might be the best Kitana player in the world right now

He just fucking bodied dragon in ranked

[remote mountain]

the one i shared earlier or a diff one

[subtle oyster]

The one you shared

He’s fucking insane

[remote mountain]

fr i got lucky finding his vids cuz he barely has any subs

all his vids are quality

[subtle oyster]

Very high quality

Kitana is top 1

[remote mountain]

Cyrax top 1

[subtle oyster]

Cyrax could make a turd OP

[kindred osprey]

I just labbed
It does work and is better than just ball

The combo I got was F1, 44, Goro, Ball, j. 12, Air ball, F4

I think this would be the optimal out of F1...

[subtle oyster]

Oh nice

What damage do you get?

[kindred osprey]

313~316 depending on how many sais hit from the air ball

Also
I'd like to share a new discovery
I just discovered Mileena can combo Ex Low Sai into Goro into Ball for the full combo

[subtle oyster]

That’s fucking sweet lol

[kindred osprey]

I did
12, Ex Low Sai, Goro, Ball, j. 12, Air Ball, F4
Got 342 dmg

But you have to press Down R1 for Goro to go further than usual, and you also have to call him super fast just after you press the low sai

Even before it hits

But like, Ex Low Sai comboes from every cancelable string she has, meaning that actually became the most optimal combo I know from the F2, 4 starter

[subtle oyster]

Oh I thought you meant a raw bread and butter unlubed EX low sai in neutral

[kindred osprey]

From the F3, 4 starter, it does 374

[kindred osprey]

Maybe!!!!!
Didn't think of that

Nope
Even the Down R1 Goro goes like midscreen
Not far enough to combo from any distance that's not combo distance

[subtle oyster]

Just checked. You can get 180 one bar

3 hit combo lol

[subtle oyster]

I’m getting 330 off F144

I can send the combo if you want

[kindred osprey]

Ohhhh
What combo is it?

[subtle oyster]

I took your idea with Goro and used my regular bnb with it

[kindred osprey]

Wait
You just did j. 22 instead of j. 12?

[subtle oyster]

J22 does more damage

[kindred osprey]

Wow
I should just do that always

[subtle oyster]

That’s what I do. I get 412 off her standing 1-2 string

With one bar and no goro

[kindred osprey]

I have no idea how much I'm doing tbh
Lol

But how are you doing that?

[subtle oyster]

I can send my combo for you to compare

[kindred osprey]

I tend to go Ex Teleport, j. 12, Air Ball, Ground Ball, j. 122, Air Teleport

[subtle oyster]

Ending in f4 gives her the best oki

[wind hedge]

https://vxtwitter.com/MrrAqua/status/1707484894484381910?t=kLKy-csf60LRa6QoBDENXQ&s=19

[subtle oyster]

Daddy Shao is the goat

[wind hedge]

Saw people dislike Shao because he has no frame traps apparently

And is also slow

[subtle oyster]

His buttons also go half screen and do nearly 50%

If he had a good mid too he would be the best character in the game

[wind hedge]

I was watching this one tier list I was gonna send it just for people to skip the end.

But yeah it's only A through S essentially

The S tier is pretty obvious but I didn't expect Scorpion to be there

And this

https://vxtwitter.com/4o4esports/status/1707243039926685862?t=QS5lEaqW86I-3K4BOaVgkg&s=19

[subtle oyster]

He’s only there cause of Cyrax. Without cyrax chip he ain’t S

It appears all of the characters I’m currently playing are top tier. No wonder I’m having fun with the game

[kindred osprey]

Ohhhhhh
Much better than me

[kindred osprey]

Wow
She is getting nerfed...

[subtle oyster]

She’s really good but who knows

I hope they just buff other characters tbh

Alright I got Liu’s f4 combo down so I’m doing very well with him. That’s 3 characters I have down pretty well and Mileena is almost there

All 4 of which are fucking strong. Whoops.

[subtle oyster]

TNS tourney going on rn

Kitana player is kicking ass

[wind hedge]

Can't believe I finally picked and liked a good character

[wind hedge]

The personal pointed out that while without high low he has great tools, frame traps, and fantastic normals and damage

He definitely put Shang in A+ saying when someone knows what they're doing it's scary to be on the other side of him

[subtle oyster]

That’s a stretch I feel

[wind hedge]

Really?

[subtle oyster]

But he’s solid but not S

[wind hedge]

I've never seen a good scorpion but I'd assume he's really good. I still got to watch Foxy fight that one scorpion

[subtle oyster]

He has to win because of the opponents mistakes. He can’t enforce a snowballing offense aside from Cyrax kameo and chip

Whereas Kenshi Baraka and Johnny can put people in a blender for the entire round

They aren’t on the same tier

[wind hedge]

So how are those 3 characters on defense? It's a bit weird to ask but I'm curious.

Since that comes into play in most other fighting games.

[subtle oyster]

Every character gets a fast down 1 and fast jab and an armored reversal. It’s usually the slow characters without DP’s that struggle on defense in other fighting games

Johnny also can EX parry to get out of stuff

I’d love to downplay Johnny but if you take Cyrax kameo out of the game then Johnny is better

Scorpion can cheese spear spin with the Cyrax kameo

[wind hedge]

I'm not gonna play him because I've never liked the 2 famous ninja but I'm gonna watch some videos of Scorpion. He does seem popular

[subtle oyster]

He was way more popular in the last game but yeah he’s the fan favorite character

Reiko with Striker looks like a nightmare

[remote mountain]

does he still have the same dmg output as reiko darrius?

[subtle oyster]

No but he becomes the best zoner in the game aside from maybe Liu with Stryker

And has all his cmd grabs and shit he can do

[remote mountain]

oh i can see that, havent faced a truly good zoner yet tbh

especially with sub or motaro as kameos

[subtle oyster]

Not many people will have a dedicated zoning playstyle

[remote mountain]

yea ive been seeing sindels and rains playing upclose

same with kitana

[subtle oyster]

Yeah you can kinda use anybody up close

[subtle oyster]

SonicFoxes Li Mei is good af

[kindred osprey]

Sonic Fox is good af

[tough rock]

You should know that NRS nerfs top tiers instead of buffing everyone else

[vague creek]

Sonic fox af

[tough rock]

Instead of going after Mileena's damage or Cyrax's chip damage they'll just drop 50 health from Mileena and increase the cooldown on Cyrax's moves

Then call it a day

[wind hedge]

@subtle oyster after watching Scorpion play. I see what you're talking about because he's not putting people into the forever blender on block. So my beginner brain says he seems A+

[kindred osprey]

I'll be honest
I'd rather have 900 Hp than lose my 40% meterless

[wind hedge]

Ah he finally made a guide

https://youtu.be/AOTKJjs4WKg?si=gXFF3tJ3a5QJZEvr

[subtle oyster]

I mean they nerfed sub zero into the ground and he wasn’t the best in the beta

They also didn’t do shit to Cetrion or Joker so I bet Kenshi rides top tier for the life of the game

[subtle oyster]

The blender that he has is cyrax and spear spin chip without that he’s not on that level

[wind hedge]

When I get done with regular gaming, I'm gonna try Shang and see if he can be my second

Because I like Johnny a lot actually but I barely use the mechanic I wanted to play him for

[tough rock]

They dropped 50 health from each and called it a day lol

[subtle oyster]

It was a crime

[wind hedge]

I just want them to buff Shujinko.

The most unreasonable buff I think he should get. Are, his punch and kicks should be plus on block. And is you combo into them he gets a full meter or half of one

[tough rock]

It was half assed and lazy because they were into MK1 at that point

Never forget it took nrs A WHOLE YEAR to nerf Sheeva's stomp into the ground

[subtle oyster]

They nerfed it instantly after Tigerz put them on blast

He is a hero

[tough rock]

If Sonic won or lost a tournament to a Sheeva stomp spammer it would have been nerfed within a week

[subtle oyster]

Probably yeah

But also the fact he put WhyDidNRSDoThis in his variation name made it that much more iconic

And got banned from the fucking tourney because of it

[tough rock]

But NRS has recently built up a history of small nerfs to top tiers instead buffing low tiers to top tiers.

With Sub Zero's beta nerf being a step in a new direction

[subtle oyster]

I agree

They left Raiden and Shao in ass tier for the majority of the game

[tough rock]

And since all the nerf was adjusting damage numbers it keeps the mantra of NRS doing the bare minimum to nerf top tiers

[tough rock]

Raiden had that complete bullshit 50/50 and Shao was an armored charge buff away from being top 5

[subtle oyster]

He didn’t get the 50 until the end of the game

It took years for that shit

And even then all he had was that good stagger

[tough rock]

Didn't he get that when kustom variations dropped?

[subtle oyster]

I’m pretty sure cause they hugged him and Shao about the same time

Shao actually became pretty solid once they fixed his flawless block gap

Like really solid actually

[tough rock]

The MK11 Shao main in me wishes his charge move got armor to this day. Would have been the perfect counter to Cetrion

[subtle oyster]

A lot of armored moves would have been

This game is so much god damn better lol

I honestly think they were halfway into making INJ3 and had to scrap it for the next MK which is why it’s a little rushed and the intros are the INJ clash

But idk how they’re gonna nerf some of these characters. The game is actually pretty balanced without kameos

[tough rock]

My guess is the nerfs will be kameos and meterless damage

[subtle oyster]

After seeing how Sub got nerfed I’m worried cause they don’t really know what they’re doing

[tough rock]

Cyrax 100% Jax's unblockable will probably be slightly slower or nerfed to a low .

The TOD shujinko combos on Geras are definitely getting removed

And probably more scaling on meterless launchers.

Sub needs 2 bars to break 300 and literally anyone with a launcher can hit that meterless

[subtle oyster]

He only needed a damage nerf if the first hit was the clone imo

If he combos off his overhead it should do good damage

[tough rock]

People weren't used to klone and wanted it removed lol

[subtle oyster]

I actually like how they nerfed the duration of it

That way they’re not just doing it over and over and over in neutral and there’s always one on the field

[tough rock]

I miss yeeting the klone full screen as a whiff punish

[subtle oyster]

Oh yeah MKX clone

Idk why you can’t do that in this game

[tough rock]

Because its active for like 70 frames

A frame is 60 seconds

Barely on screen for a second

[subtle oyster]

A frame is 1/60th of a second

I mean like

[tough rock]

I was close enough

[subtle oyster]

Idk why it wasn’t in the original design if they originally had it last for an hour

Honestly he’s close to being back on par with the others so I’m not too worried about it. If he gets his damage back he’ll probably be fine

If they had his beta clone in this game, he would be the most annoying ass fucking character ever. He could just hide behind clone and throw mid projectiles with Stryker kameo the whole game and zone everyone

[kindred osprey]

I HATE that the intros don't happen in Tower Mode

[kindred osprey]

Is he THAT bad?
I was planning on trying him out...

[tough rock]

Compared to the beta yes

Sub is the worst character in the game right now

[tough rock]

Watch this video if you need more convincing. MK Tom Brady is a retired pro who mained Sub throughout MKX

https://youtu.be/rSat5smmXxE?si=Jg1Hbtg88p8g657r

[subtle oyster]

I do too

[tough rock]

With all the aerial combos, 2 line intros and cracked damage across the board im almost convinced MK1 was supposed to be Injustice 3 at first

[subtle oyster]

He’s unsafe as shit while not getting good damage for it. If the opponent guesses right vs sub he’s eating 40%.

[tough rock]

And I completely forgot this about Sub too, but none of his strings jail either

[subtle oyster]

Boon said they had to scrap INJ3 I’m just curious how long it was in development

[tough rock]

You can armor through his 12 and 21 jabs between the first and second hit on block

Can't do that against anyone else

[subtle oyster]

Kitana says hi

[kindred osprey]

Ok...
I'm waiting for the buffs
And not downplaying Reptile again
Lmao

I know he is... A reptile
But like, couldn't he just stretch his arms a bit more?
The guy really has T rex arms

[subtle oyster]

Back 3 has really good range

From what I’ve seen his offense revolves around 1-1 and b3-1

[kindred osprey]

Oh yes
F3 too, super good range
But like...
Doesn't really lead to that much dmg

[subtle oyster]

They nerfed it on day 1 for some reason

That shit was doing close to 50% in early access

[kindred osprey]

Oh
Wtf?

Whyyyyyyy

[subtle oyster]

I don’t know

@kindred osprey

@remote mountain I’m probably gonna run Kitana scorpion or Kitana goro first

[remote mountain]

nice, you dont need to EX the 2nd forceball, just do the fast version the 2nd time and do the normal version the first

[subtle oyster]

Yeah I know that now but that was my first hour in early access

[remote mountain]

ohh mb lol

I might try kitana cyrax cause the shit like comboing off throw and off of 112 and b33 seem massive to me

if i find other kameos that can do that then ill look into them

[kindred osprey]

COOL
Gonna try that out later

Did they fuck up the dmg THAT bad?

[tough rock]

Forever King's first tier list

Not ordered

Except Raiden and Kenshi

[remote mountain]

holy fuck mileena and smoke are so low

[wind hedge]

Damn why's Liu Kang up there with Kenshi

I know he's good but is he really S

[subtle oyster]

Yes. It does not do this amount of damage

[tough rock]

Liu's in A tier

[subtle oyster]

Cyrax fucking carries scorpion

They made a character with a bunch of highs but chip damage and now he’s in S

Liu and Ashrah are top 7/8 I think

Ashrah can be swapped with scorpion

[wind hedge]

My ass can't see, why's Raiden here

I got them confused by the way so my B

[tough rock]

Easier kameo synergy and easier to use than Kenshi mostly

[subtle oyster]

Raiden is not better than Kenshi. Easier sure but definitely not better

One hit into Sento and you’re probably going to lose the round

It’s an absolute blender of plus on block 50/50’s that jail into each other and do chip and if you get hit you’re eating 40%

Raiden doesn’t have mix but he has good mids and deletes bars. Cyrax kameo again is really busted with him cause his chip damage with his lighting special move is insane

I’m proud of him for not downplaying his character and putting Geras top 10. I suspected Geras was probably around 9-12ish

[tough rock]

https://youtu.be/9GmiO548uA4?si=CTULbfqmEn_aUSyO

Video for reference

[subtle oyster]

Is @north mango alive?

[wind hedge]

I think Shang on tier lists is always funny

Since the explanation I hear is he's very scary but not many people play him

[subtle oyster]

Shang is gonna be the last guy to have his spot on the tier list pinpointed

[wind hedge]

Like I hear that Shang is one of the very few actual zoners in this game. So he's already really good

And his damage doesn't suffer unlike other characters.

[subtle oyster]

Shang will probably always be good with a player who has really good knowledge of the game. He can always morph into the opposing player’s character for a period of time and get a damage buff while doing so

Imagine morphing into Sindel, then using Sindel’s move to steal their kameo too

[kindred osprey]

@MK Matchmaking

[subtle oyster]

I wish I could play ):

[kindred osprey]

Just do it

Fuck society and it's oppressive norms

[subtle oyster]

I can quit my high paying job to live my dream of not having a job

[kindred osprey]

Capitalism sucks

LMAOOOOO

I'm jk, just to make sure

[subtle oyster]

There is a stacked ass tourney soon

[kindred osprey]

Yo @subtle oyster
Not trying to be a tier whore but...
Doesn't Cyrax do exactly the same in leaving Mileena safe on ball and telport as Goro does?

Plus the chip damage and combo potential without the Hp disadvantage?

[subtle oyster]

I’m not sure if cyrax is fast enough to protect her ball roll and tele

I mean, I’m sure there is synergy with them because Mileena has tons of combo potential without any kameos at all

She can use any kameo she wants tbh

[kindred osprey]

I might test that later
Rn I'm labbing Smoke
Smoke and Jax have some good stuff

[subtle oyster]

Yeah I’d lab it. I’m not a Mileena main but wanted to give you a good guide to go off of

I’m going to get better with her soon with more sets tho

[kindred osprey]

Thank you so much for that
I feel like I understand MK better as a whole now

[subtle oyster]

You’re welcome! I’ll help any way I can

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey you still playing?

[kindred osprey]

Nope
On SF rn
Will be later thp

[tough rock]

That reminds me I gotta try AKI

[kindred osprey]

Exactly that

Lol

[subtle oyster]

I’ll be on in about an hour

[wind hedge]

https://vxtwitter.com/MFSlayer/status/1707827390674776567?t=J6olK3FeG3pU5fjvzUrDbQ&s=19

[subtle oyster]

NERF SUB ZERO

HES NOT DEAD ENOUGH

[tough rock]

https://twitter.com/MortalKombat/status/1707886153595322698?t=ug47sPj9u4yXzqh_c4gM4g&s=19

Mortal Kombat 1 (@MortalKombat)

We need to enter Maintenance Mode to fix these unforeseen server issues. We'll let you know when we are back online. Thank you for understanding.

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Twitter · Sep 29, 2023, 10:32 PM

Games currently down

[subtle oyster]

Can you still lab?

[kindred osprey]

Ping me.

[tough rock]

https://twitter.com/MortalKombat/status/1707895036749468047?t=HNcW64ehtMWoqb-GRsagcg&s=19

Mortal Kombat 1 (@MortalKombat)

Unfortunately, due to the unexpected server issues we encountered today, we need to push today's planned patch deployment until early next week. We want to focus on server stability before we enter the weekend. Apologies for any inconvenience this may cause.

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Twitter · Sep 29, 2023, 11:08 PM

Player 1 glitch lives for one more weekend

[subtle oyster]

I haven’t noticed it anyways

I hit my combos on p2 side anyways

[wind hedge]

You sure it's not a cyrax thing?

[subtle oyster]

I’m just joking

But he can get like 45% in the corner without cyrax

[wind hedge]

Ah, I've never seen a combo do that much damage is all. It's normally like 500 to 560

I hope they just remove Cyrax in the next update

[subtle oyster]

@kindred osprey

Do you wanna play?

@tough rock

[tough rock]

Wife and I are in the middle of Walking Dead. Maybe when she falls asleep lol

[tough rock]

It screws over my Geras ex temporal combos something fierce

[subtle oyster]

@wind hedge

Wanna play

@remote mountain

[wind hedge]

Ah not today my apologies

[tough rock]

@subtle oyster in a surprising twist, my wife said she'll play

[kindred osprey]

I dooooo
But I only have like 20min
Lmao

[fiery thistle]

pc?

[subtle oyster]

Yeah

[fiery thistle]

ill gmae

[subtle oyster]

Sweet

[kindred osprey]

I SAID IT FIRST

Lmao

Jk

[subtle oyster]

I have no idea what to do in this situation lol

[kindred osprey]

Go on
I don't have much time either way
Gonna lab

[subtle oyster]

I found some more shit about Mileena

I’ll save it for when we fight

[kindred osprey]

Ohhhhh
Ok!
Tomorrow?

[subtle oyster]

Sure!

[fiery thistle]

how we join up?

192371169

here is steam friend codde

[subtle oyster]

added you

I can invite or if you'd rather invite to get player 1 thats fine with me

[fiery thistle]

i just accepted

nah dont matter to me

[subtle oyster]

okay cool i will invite

wanna chat or nah?

[fiery thistle]

sure

[kindred osprey]

Smoke with Scorpion is a MENACE
Wtf

I have 3 combos doing around 320 each
One High, one Overhead and one Low

And super easy
Dealing 320 meterless
Just using the kameo once

Fuck Reptile
He is cuter, but Smoke might be my secondary

[wind hedge]

How exactly is Reptile cute?

[kindred osprey]

Everything about him tbh
His human form is hot, but like
The way he speaks and moves
I can't exactly explain, but it just screams good guy
And have you seen his Zaterran form? He is CUTEEEEE
I wanna hug and pet him

No pun intended but...
He is a walking green flag

[wind hedge]

I see, this is a mad unrelatable topic. But I'm happy for you

[kindred osprey]

Why unrelated?
It is Reptile
Lol

[wind hedge]

Not unrelated. Unrelatable.

[kindred osprey]

AH
Makes sense

[wind hedge]

As in I'm having trouble seeing it right off hand. I understand his demeanor but that's about it.