Mortal Kombat

[subtle oyster]

You will catch so many people whiffing pokes

[remote mountain]

fr i was watching a high lvl mirror match between two reptiles and it consisted of abusing the low and forceball in neutral lmao

[subtle oyster]

Advancing buttons come at a premium in this game compared to MK11

[remote mountain]

will do, im about to play my first online games in a bit after I get myself some lunch

[tough rock]

I was wondering who had the infamous, 9 frame mid in MK1

Johnny can't be the only 9 frame mid user

[subtle oyster]

I always seem to gravitate towards the 9 frame mid. I played Liu and Noob and now Johnny

[subtle oyster]

Johnny has the most powerful mid I’ve ever seen from an MK game

This is the best mid in the game by a mile

[remote mountain]

wait reptiles 11 is fucking 0 on block

LMAOO

[subtle oyster]

It would be the best mid in MK11

[tough rock]

I gravitate towards the one shot characters. Like I catch you once and ggs shake my hand

[subtle oyster]

I told you

[subtle oyster]

MK11 I needed the 9 frame mid for my mental health due to poke mash and I know you understand that

[remote mountain]

this chara has so much huge advancing normals that are all safe

[tough rock]

All too well

[tough rock]

And I needed my Kotal mid command grab for my sanity

[subtle oyster]

You have multiple strong options after 1-1

[tough rock]

And the fact that Kotal has absolutely no decent mids

[subtle oyster]

To be fair Kotal without that cmd grab is shit, but that cmd grab is so gamebreaking stupid I hate him so much

[remote mountain]

ah fuck his charge overhead isnt safe

rip

all g tho

[subtle oyster]

Mid cmd grabs should never exist in MK

[subtle oyster]

I would do the fast unsafe one I think

[tough rock]

The damage totems made him even more cracked

[remote mountain]

true its prob better

[subtle oyster]

Do it and see if they punish it. I bet they don’t

[remote mountain]

it just doesnt give groundbounce

[tough rock]

1 damage totem mid grab did like 19% no meter

[subtle oyster]

You know what fuck Kotal fuck Jade

You’re right

[remote mountain]

I want Erron back

[tough rock]

3 totem ex grab did like 31

[subtle oyster]

Same brother

[remote mountain]

im glad takenda is atleast coming back, that chara was mad fun in x

[subtle oyster]

I am too he looks fucking sick too

His mask is awesome

[subtle oyster]

Why you play all the shit I hate bro?

[remote mountain]

fr, ig hes gonna be related to kenshi instead of being his son or smthing? cuz kenshi is way too young lmao

[subtle oyster]

MK11 can’t hurt me anymore

[subtle oyster]

Takeda looks old in that

He’s wearing futuristic armor too

So he’s from a different timeline

[remote mountain]

oh yea i forgot they could just say hes from a different timeline now lmao

[subtle oyster]

Speaking of Kung Lao from earlier, he is in fact pure potato gameplay

Imagine Ken from street fighter’s DP is now plus on block, well that’s how you play Kung Lao

[remote mountain]

I heard people complaining abt how he lost his tele

[subtle oyster]

I mean the kameo gets the tele but yeah

They were mad about the tele and spin which the kameo gets lol

[remote mountain]

atleast he seems good without it

but theyre def iconic

[subtle oyster]

Kung Lao players abused that tele in MK11 and deserve to suffer for it

Karma is a bitch

[subtle oyster]

He seems okay. You use him with Goro kameo so you get a launching armor move that can be made plus on block

Pure potato

[tough rock]

They did

[remote mountain]

lmao ik reiko players also complained abt losing a bunch of unique shit and getting the kano treatment instead

[subtle oyster]

Now I’m angry

[subtle oyster]

Reiko hasn’t been playable in forever and he looks about as boring as one could picture him

Everyone knew he was gonna be king jobber #1

A jobber’s job is to job and Reiko is very good at his job.

[remote mountain]

RIP, his gladiator helm is dope tho

[wind hedge]

@sharp notch did you still want to play today or is it too late?

Oh wrong @

@kindred osprey

[subtle oyster]

I’ve yet to fight a reiko and I’m kinda scared tbh

[remote mountain]

he barely does dmg from what ive seen

[subtle oyster]

Well that’s good to know

[remote mountain]

its just slides and shuriken with some good disjoints

[subtle oyster]

He looks so basic

Like a street fighter character

[remote mountain]

actually true lmao

[subtle oyster]

Kenshi is over here with full screen overheads and clone and shit and HERE COMES REIKO WITH A NORMAL PROJECTILE AND A KICK

[remote mountain]

would it be better to hop into kombat league first to face against other inexperienced players or casual where players also dont care as much

[subtle oyster]

Word of advice from someone who played a lot of 11. People care about kasual. A lot.

[remote mountain]

LMAO

[subtle oyster]

The game shoves a record in your face in kasual and people take that very very seriously

They don’t wanna take L’s at all

[remote mountain]

KL doesnt do that?

[subtle oyster]

And they care about that record

KL record resets every season so you could go win 1 game and lose 9000 and nobody is gonna know after the season

So this is what happens in kasual

You either A) Beat their ass and then they don’t wanna rematch at all so you get no matchup knowledge

B) Also beat their ass and they get salty as shit and switch to their sweaty tryhard main and you still get no matchup knowledge

Or C) They win and fatality and leave after one game cause they’re scared

[remote mountain]

fuck i cant even play ranked apparently tho

i keep getting error while matchmaking

[subtle oyster]

So play ranked

Well shit

[sterile scarab]

he really is

[subtle oyster]

Play ranked and don’t worry about record and play private matches with friends. Kasual isn’t the way

[remote mountain]

im just sad they apparently nerfed reptiles dmg a bit

but atleast i didnt play while he had better dmg so i dont feel the pain as much

[subtle oyster]

Ranked is great now cause you can’t switch your main. In 11 everyone will switch to their sweaty main after they lose the first game

[subtle oyster]

I labbed him before the launch and was like wow he’s busted. Then I wanted to show off my combo after the launch and it did no damage ):

[tough rock]

I'll pull up with a blind Reiko and you'll be screaming for nerfs

[tough rock]

I'm free if you can't find anyone

[subtle oyster]

9 frame mid will beat his ass

[tough rock]

I'll mid command grab your ass

[subtle oyster]

Can’t cmd grab me when I’m plus and I do a 9 frame mid

[tough rock]

Don't tell me the odds

[subtle oyster]

You sit there and hold block while I play the game and have fun okay?

[tough rock]

I didn't pay $110 just to block

[subtle oyster]

I spent good money on this game so you let me be on offense for the whole round

[subtle oyster]

Beat me to it

Not beating a 9 frame mid tho

We all need to band together and say fuck Kenshi

[sterile scarab]

what did the change

like what move did they damage nerf

[subtle oyster]

His damage

I have a video one sec

[sterile scarab]

got it so this was the old

one

[remote mountain]

He used to be able to get 35% meterless and without assist

[subtle oyster]

Yeah before the day 1 patch

[remote mountain]

but now he gets around 31% with the new optimized route

but the original 35% route was very poorly optimized so it prob wouldve been around 40%+ lmao

[subtle oyster]

His damage is prolly fine

[remote mountain]

He has good damage seeing how abusable his strings are

[subtle oyster]

But yeah it got hit

[subtle oyster]

Offense in this game is kinda nuts so everyone has bullshit strings

[remote mountain]

oh wtf winning 3-0 in a set only counts as one win

[subtle oyster]

His forceball is the most abusabke imo

[sterile scarab]

i saw a few people from a mortal kombat server

[subtle oyster]

Yeah it goes by sets

[sterile scarab]

reptile seems good

im guessing he did like 500 or something right

[subtle oyster]

Everyone in this game is good

[sterile scarab]

before the nerf

still getting used the using the kameo

its a little weird cause ive never used any assists in any game much

[subtle oyster]

It’s a first for all of us

[remote mountain]

how do you tech throws in this game?

is it grabbing at the same time like usual?

[subtle oyster]

1 for back throw 2 for toward throw

[remote mountain]

damn u have to guess what direction they throw?

[subtle oyster]

Yeah cause throws are riskier in this game compared to SF

[sterile scarab]

i saw this combo in the mortal kombat discord

[subtle oyster]

It’s a high so you can duck it and punish them

[sterile scarab]

Its a high?

[remote mountain]

you can do sareena if u want easier combo routes with more dmg

[subtle oyster]

If you KNOW they are gonna throw then neutral duck cause it will whiff then punish them with your jab string into a combo

[remote mountain]

but you have to be a sareena user so thats a con

[sterile scarab]

not mine so tell it to Zaterran Hunter

but i kind of like scorpion

[remote mountain]

Honeybee is a reptile main on youtube who sometimes plays with scorpion kameo

hes really good if ur interested in seeing the optimized combo routes with it

he also uses goro and a bunch others like motaro

[sterile scarab]

acid spit is plus but everyone says thats all its good for

[remote mountain]

true

[subtle oyster]

I haven’t seen ppl use acid spit

[remote mountain]

its a shit projectile and the damage isnt that good

[sterile scarab]

its plus 30

on block so thats good

[remote mountain]

you mean +3?

[sterile scarab]

no

[remote mountain]

wtf lmao

[sterile scarab]

wait no on hit its +30

if it was plus 30 on block i think people would actually use it

[remote mountain]

yea i was mad confused lmao

[sterile scarab]

theres a website for mk games like dustloop right

i forgot the name

but i saw it on twitter

[subtle oyster]

I just use the in game frame data. I love it

[kindred osprey]

I just got free if you want

[wind hedge]

Alright prepare to be underwhelmed

[subtle oyster]

That’s the spirit

[wind hedge]

So do you have to invite me by name or is it a code system?

[tough rock]

Kameo throws usually do slightly more damage so more often than not, mash 2 to escape throws

[sterile scarab]

There’s no crossplay right?

[subtle oyster]

It depends on the kameo. Some so 12 some do 10

[tough rock]

Sonya does 14

[subtle oyster]

I think majority of the time people toward throw in general unless they are getting out of the corner

But that’s interesting it does 14

Cyrax needs to step his shit up only doing 10😡

[kindred osprey]

Gimme some time
Like 20min

Sorry
Dad needs help with the printer

[wind hedge]

Yar, it's fine

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey make a KOTH and invite me too lol. Wanna work on Sindel

Please

[subtle oyster]

I wanna learn Sindel

[wind hedge]

2 ranks away from the Kameo I want

[tough rock]

Bruh

TIL you can pay $20 to unlock all the base kameos early

[subtle oyster]

Lol

[kindred osprey]

Ok
I am back
Creating the room

[tough rock]

Its.. not even worth it

[subtle oyster]

Not at all

[tough rock]

None of these kameos alone are worth $20

[subtle oyster]

I’ma join and spectate if that’s cool

[tough rock]

I'm not playing Geras so no scouting for you

[kindred osprey]

PSN?

[subtle oyster]

Oh damn I thought we were friends but there’s tension

[subtle oyster]

Wakeup_uppercuts

[tough rock]

SNNAAAAAKE28

2 N's and 5 A's

I really gotta change my PSN

[subtle oyster]

I do need to learn Geras so I do wanna play you. I literally got no sleep last night tho so I don’t feel like playing at all lol

[kindred osprey]

Invited

@wind hedge?

[wind hedge]

Oh one sec

Gotta get out of this tower

[kindred osprey]

Ok!

[subtle oyster]

I’m excited to watch this. Gonna be hype

Might as well just keep drinking at this point

[wind hedge]

Could you invite me again?

[subtle oyster]

I didn’t get an invite either

[wind hedge]

Since I didn't get anything @kindred osprey

[kindred osprey]

PSN?

[wind hedge]

Hen-Tyler

[kindred osprey]

Ok

Oh
I think we have to do a ft2?

[subtle oyster]

Did you make a KOTH?

I can start it if you want

[wind hedge]

One sec I gotta run to the bathroom anyways

[kindred osprey]

Yes

[subtle oyster]

What’s your gamertag

[kindred osprey]

spidervicluc

[subtle oyster]

@tough rock you ready?

[tough rock]

Okay screw Sindel I'm playing Geras

[kindred osprey]

LMAO

[tough rock]

For Mortal Kombat?

[subtle oyster]

I’m making a KOTH

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey already did

[kindred osprey]

I invited you

[subtle oyster]

My notifications are empty

[subtle oyster]

Oh then Idek what realm I’m in rn

[kindred osprey]

Drop...

[subtle oyster]

Any day now

[kindred osprey]

Idk how to inv

[subtle oyster]

😡

Jk

[kindred osprey]

OH

[subtle oyster]

@tough rock can you invite me

[kindred osprey]

Got it

[subtle oyster]

Maybe add me as a friend first?

[kindred osprey]

Nope
I'm out of the room

[subtle oyster]

I’m new to PlayStation

[kindred osprey]

If you wanna create and inv then
I think easier

[tough rock]

Someone not in a match can only invite

[subtle oyster]

I will create and invite

[kindred osprey]

I can't...
Brother's account
I'll buy the game on my account soon tho

[subtle oyster]

Can you accept the friend request on your brothers account then just delete afterwards

I’m pretty cool so you’re doing him a favor tbh

Everyone says

[kindred osprey]

Lol
I can

[tough rock]

Just join this koth lol

[wind hedge]

So what's going on. How do I join?

[kindred osprey]

Hasn't Snake invited y'all?

[subtle oyster]

This is a shitshow

[tough rock]

We need you're psn name

[wind hedge]

Hen-Tyler

[subtle oyster]

Jesus we suck so bad we can’t even start the game

[kindred osprey]

Invited y'all

I think

[subtle oyster]

Got it

[tough rock]

I agree. Sf6 is much easier

[kindred osprey]

So much

[wind hedge]

I have joined

[tough rock]

I'll join in a minute

[subtle oyster]

This game is great aside from QoL stuff and crossplay

SF6 has the most streamlined multiplayer ever

[tough rock]

And jiggle physics

[subtle oyster]

MK tried to counter with a Megan Fox I guess lol

[tough rock]

SF6 pulled an Uno reverse card with Cammy P2 outfit

[wind hedge]

Do you have to block the follow up from the EX Sai?

[kindred osprey]

Yes

And it's an oh iirc

[wind hedge]

Man that's stupid

[subtle oyster]

Yeah I learned that from KL yesterday

I got hit by it lol

[wind hedge]

I've definitely been having a lot of trouble getting near people in the game though

[subtle oyster]

The feminists who were pissed at that was so funny

That sand storm projectile looks so cool

YOO LETS GO JOHNNY CAGE

TYLER A KILLER LETS GO

[kindred osprey]

Someone got Mic open

[subtle oyster]

Prob me

[kindred osprey]

I have to say I don't really understand anything about the game yet
I just have cool kombos

Movement, how to approach, footsies

[subtle oyster]

I can teach you! I’ll have you killing

THE PARRY

[kindred osprey]

WOOHOO
THE PARRY

[subtle oyster]

That was hype as shit you ought to be proud

[kindred osprey]

I'd really appreciate any tips

[tough rock]

For real ggs

[wind hedge]

I don't want of the stuff someone would need to play MK still

[subtle oyster]

I can tell you have fundamentals I can see it

[tough rock]

I legit forgot everything with Sindel

[subtle oyster]

You just need MK specific tips

[kindred osprey]

Yeah
No Reptile
Let's focus on Mileena

[subtle oyster]

I need to unlock that Johnny skin

[wind hedge]

It's not an unlock I think. I got mine from the gacha thing

DAMN I got NO exp for that. Thanks game

This game really does say "go fuck yourself if you're not a winner"

[kindred osprey]

Man
Rooflemonger really lied to me
He said that Frost move was invinc on wake up

[wind hedge]

Subzero is not a real character I tell you

[subtle oyster]

Don’t listen to Roofle. Your armored move with Mileena is amp ball roll

[tough rock]

@subtle oyster I know Subs been nerfedto hell but idk lol

[subtle oyster]

He’s bottom tier

[kindred osprey]

Is it? Didn't really work

Lmao

[subtle oyster]

I’m pretty sure

It’s never the kameo assist

Ever

[kindred osprey]

Wow
Just noticed I haven't tried out Smoke

[subtle oyster]

Your armor is always an amp special

[kindred osprey]

Great!
I need to check the move list tho

[subtle oyster]

I’ll help when you get the game

[kindred osprey]

Gimme like...
2 weeks or so

[subtle oyster]

You’ll get it just fine!

[wind hedge]

Nah what doesn't Sub do?

[tough rock]

Damage

[wind hedge]

He killed me just fine

[subtle oyster]

He’s solid and is aggravating

But he is unsafe as shit

And his offense sucks aside from the 50/50

YOOO THE MILEENA COMBO

[wind hedge]

I can't even do EX combos yet.

Or rather I haven't learned them since I'm so focused on neutral

[subtle oyster]

I’ll teach you the bnb’s

They’re not too hard

[wind hedge]

I agree. I just can't get that damn EX DP

So I gave up on it for now

[tough rock]

How in the hell are you supposed to play Scorpion

Or use Goro for that matter?

[subtle oyster]

You whiff punish and make calculated reads

He’s not brain dead like 11

Literally the opposite

[tough rock]

Smoke inherited that

[subtle oyster]

Exactly

Okay I think I got time for a game

[wind hedge]

I'm sorry I need the XP

[subtle oyster]

NICE ARMORED SHADOW KICK FOR THE WIN THAT WAS CLUTCH

What a read bro

[wind hedge]

Never mind you don't XP in these things I'm sorry

[kindred osprey]

LMAO
It's completely fine

My Reptile really needs more work

[subtle oyster]

You got all the cool Johnny skins I’m still rocking default lol

[wind hedge]

I like the default one

[subtle oyster]

I fell in love with the default one so I stay using it

THE PARRY AGAIN

[fiery thistle]

You got thr indiana one?

[subtle oyster]

@wind hedge does

[fiery thistle]

That one's sick with no glasses

[remote mountain]

@subtle oyster what was johnnys 9f mid that u were talking about? cant find it

[subtle oyster]

Forward 3

Maybe the best button in the game

[remote mountain]

ohhh i see

ok i might learn johnny over reptile for ranked lmao

he feels pretty fun too

[fiery thistle]

It's not crossplay yet right?

[subtle oyster]

I can teach

I like to help

[remote mountain]

whenever ur PC version gets fixed im down to play and try to learn

[remote mountain]

nope unfortunately

i think most people here play on console while im on PC lmao

[kindred osprey]

THE BRUTALITY

[subtle oyster]

We can run private practice mode. The problem is the constant stuttering but if we’re labbing it’s no big deal

[wind hedge]

That's my last finisher like that. I actually really like that one

[fiery thistle]

👀 you wanna clown?

[subtle oyster]

What a brutal bro!

[remote mountain]

im down lol, ur also PC?

[subtle oyster]

I’m exiting AFK

[kindred osprey]

LMAO
I shipp Johnny and Kitana

[subtle oyster]

Gimme Geras

[fiery thistle]

Ye. I'll be home in ~30 min

[tough rock]

Johnny and Kung Lao getting rejected by everyone

[remote mountain]

sounds good, i wnna see how much i can figure out by myself at first though for now

[remote mountain]

aight just @ me

[subtle oyster]

For sure!

[fiery thistle]

I'm not gonna lie

The combo challenges can give a good bnb

[subtle oyster]

The combo challenges in this game are nice

They’ll help you learn the character

[tough rock]

Geras' are kinda whack though

[subtle oyster]

Play who you want idc

[fiery thistle]

Just a tad

[tough rock]

the combo challenges lol

[subtle oyster]

Ohhhhhh my b lmao

[fiery thistle]

Shaos and kenshis are great

[kindred osprey]

YES

LMFAO

[wind hedge]

Wrong ender

I'll go one more game

Also

[subtle oyster]

God Mileena is so hot

[tough rock]

The default one a lot more execution wise for and 1 bar 29% where I can use no bar and get between 30 and 35

[kindred osprey]

We're even

[wind hedge]

Why'd she even do that? That shit is literally empty

It's Johnny's brain

[kindred osprey]

LMFAO

[wind hedge]

I got combos and some pressure but I still don't understand how throws work. Is it you can duck it but you can't crouch block it?

[tough rock]

Yes

Throws are high so you can neutral duck them. But they hit you if you crouch block

[wind hedge]

Damn the 40% I can't do that

[wind hedge]

Alright that makes SO much sense.

[subtle oyster]

GG’s

[kindred osprey]

Shit
I thought I had a chance

[wind hedge]

Damn his Johnny is top tier

[kindred osprey]

GGs!!!!

[subtle oyster]

Yes you can

[wind hedge]

Meant to say yet at the end of it.

[subtle oyster]

Imma take a shot of vodka real quick

[kindred osprey]

Ohhhhh
Server Klassic now

[subtle oyster]

Pick cyrax kameo

[wind hedge]

No bro

[tough rock]

You need Vodka to fight Geras lol?

I mean, he is still the unofficial sub boss

[subtle oyster]

I need Vodka to live my normal life

I been drinking for so long lol

[wind hedge]

I have some routes with Darius but I keep forgetting to do them in a game

[subtle oyster]

Gg’s

[tough rock]

Ggs

I whiffed the absolute hell out of that combo lol

[wind hedge]

After this game I'm off to lose in ranked

[subtle oyster]

I’m lagging hard lol that low is sneaky

[kindred osprey]

Nah, that's a mirror match

[tough rock]

I've been lagging in every game practically

[subtle oyster]

It’s the KOTH same here

[kindred osprey]

Sorry
It's probably my fault
Brazil connection

Lmao

My combos got 100% better after I turned on the Input Lag for Offline play tho

[subtle oyster]

You’re fine lol

[wind hedge]

Ah well GGs

To everyone

[tough rock]

Ggs

[kindred osprey]

GGs!!!!

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey you're actually the least laggy

[subtle oyster]

Blocking a d1 feels like it’s plus

[tough rock]

Its plus 7 or 8

[subtle oyster]

I meant the lag makes hard to react to is what I meant

[tough rock]

Definitely

[fiery thistle]

@remote mountain booting up now

[kindred osprey]

That shit should be f1 invinc

[subtle oyster]

Nah it’s not supposed to be a reversal super

[tough rock]

They buffed inv frames from the beta

[kindred osprey]

It shoulddddddd

[remote mountain]

aight you wnna vc? ive never set up a room before so idk how to host or join

[fiery thistle]

sure sure

[subtle oyster]

It’s so laggy

It is a slide show against you

[tough rock]

Likewise

You're wavedashing across the screen like a Mishima

[subtle oyster]

You are teleporting lol

[kindred osprey]

Let's see what Zaddy Shao can do

[subtle oyster]

Aight ima take a break

[tough rock]

He actually does have a teleport too

[subtle oyster]

Idk what’s going on on the screen

[fiery thistle]

@remote mountain 192371169

[subtle oyster]

Gg’s @kindred osprey

[kindred osprey]

GGs!!!!!

[tough rock]

Ah good old wake up Klone

Man I missed that in Mk11

[kindred osprey]

Last game too

GGs!!!!!!

[tough rock]

Ggs

Ggs@kindred osprey @subtle oyster and@wind hedge

[kindred osprey]

GGs bro
Super fun session we had
We should do more of those

[subtle oyster]

Fo sho

[wind hedge]

Wow assassin Kitana is a whole asshole

[subtle oyster]

I’m down

I live in Texas so I’ll host this time

Seems like a logical halfway point close to Brazil

[kindred osprey]

Cool!
Probably

[wind hedge]

@kindred osprey I'm always down to lose since you're normally on when I wake up

[kindred osprey]

Great!

[tough rock]

RIP@subtle oyster

[subtle oyster]

Yeah Cyrax kinda busted but I have a Kano to accomplish the same shit with less chip

They just need to nerf the chip damage a bit tbh

But honestly I’d probably run your Geras with Cyrax too

[tough rock]

I'm leaning towards that too

Also leaning towards Sub Zero and Kung Lao

[wind hedge]

It's always Cyrax huh

[subtle oyster]

I would do block string into cyrax into that tick throw

I’m drunk and couldn’t react to it. Like at all

[subtle oyster]

You feeling the sub?👀

[wind hedge]

But without a crazy assist my Johnny combos kinda just be doing 3.2 in midscreen but I don't have many corner routes if any

[tough rock]

F1 and F12 are his tick throws

[subtle oyster]

That’s what I would do then

[subtle oyster]

Do you want me to show you my routes?

[tough rock]

I gotta cook a little more but it smells good

[wind hedge]

I mean sure, you saw all of my routes.

[subtle oyster]

Let’s play your sub against my Ashrah next time cause I need to get a secondary

[wind hedge]

Mainly just launcher, 2nd launcher then like F321 or F32 then the special kick

[tough rock]

Like it isn't beta damage, but Kung gives Sub meterless 30% plus and that low hat is deceptive

[subtle oyster]

It is deceptive but imo against Sub I’m already respecting slide so I’m expecting shit to fly across the floor

But your sub was nice

Def main or secondary material

[tough rock]

Secondary until KP2 at the earliest lol

Or if Peacemaker or Takeda are insanely fun

[subtle oyster]

Takeda looks so dope

His mask is sick

Omni man looks great too

[tough rock]

I'm wondering who's gonna play more like Superman, Homelander or Omni Man

[subtle oyster]

Yeah I heard Homelander probably gonna be a zoner

[tough rock]

Only one of them gets that F21 safe launcher

[subtle oyster]

Omni man needs to be a brawler with a cmd grab imo

[tough rock]

He needs to have that THINK meme as a taunt or something

[subtle oyster]

I WAS SAYING THAT TOO

I’m honestly so pissed that Shao’s taunt isn’t YOU SUCK

[tough rock]

Like maybe a brutality quote or something

[subtle oyster]

Like wtf were they doing

Honestly they could probably do a fatality with it

Of him beating the shit out of them and like THINK

Would be hilarious

[tough rock]

For what its worth, Shao isn't the cocky arrogant, borderline unstoppable bad guy anymore

[subtle oyster]

But the you suck taunt is god like

But you’re absolutely right

[tough rock]

Its as iconic as GET OVER HERE

[subtle oyster]

I was just about to say it’s up there with that

[wind hedge]

It's gonna be a crazy day whenever I learn how to play the game

[subtle oyster]

You already have good fundamentals you’ll be good in no time

I’m uploading the vids it’s taking a sec

[wind hedge]

Blocking is rough to me for now.

Since down 1 is rough to get around I feel

[subtle oyster]

@wind hedge BNB off 212

[wind hedge]

Okay, do I guess that jumping 2 does more than back 4/3 I always forget that launcher

[subtle oyster]

Yeah in the beta the b3 launcher had other uses but it’s pretty slim

@wind hedge this is what I use with the Back 3

This is an alternate 212 route but it has the same beginning. You just end in f32 shadow kick which has more damage if you don’t want to set up the nut punch into kameo

This is the f3 combo which is probably his most important combo

And again you can alternate the ending depending on if you want to do the nut punch kameo or shadow kick

And that’s about it tbh. Those are his most important combos off his most important buttons

For kameos I recommend Cyrax or Kano

[wind hedge]

Yeah alright, I guess I understand about all the combos. Since I wasn't using the jump 2

[subtle oyster]

Yeah for some reason it adds a lot of damage and it seems to be the best route so far I think

[wind hedge]

Yeah since I'm not using a Kameo other than Shujinko and Darrius

[subtle oyster]

I’d give Cyrax a go. Johnny needs to be constantly in the opponents face and Cyrax gives him plus frames to retake his turn

[wind hedge]

I'm mainly just here for fun but of course I get it.

[subtle oyster]

Of course I totally understand. Just trying to help a friend

[wind hedge]

Since Cyrax is what everyone uses

And Kano is what SonicFox used

[subtle oyster]

He looks to be the meta choice right now. Kano was the best in the beta because cyrax wasn’t available

Kano also provides combo utility off amplified nut punch but that for nerfed after the beta

[wind hedge]

Yeah it makes sense

[subtle oyster]

But yeah I just enjoy helping so if you have any questions lmk

[wind hedge]

Of course, I'm gonna find some goofy setups later with Shujinko

For all characters. But they are not all made equal

[subtle oyster]

Shujinko looks so cool

I’m for it

[wind hedge]

I just sucks that they're not ambush calls

[subtle oyster]

Yeah I feel that

[wind hedge]

Like you know how HOT it would be if you could Geras freeze time after a nut punch

[subtle oyster]

Fo sho

[wind hedge]

But yeah since his combos all kinda send the opponent away from him he gets his whole charge damn near

It's easy to hit confirm and everything

[subtle oyster]

Yeah the hit confirms are easy and he gets good corner carry

[wind hedge]

So I know it'll be good depending on what I understand

Especially if it's a projectile one

Like sub freeze or even better, Reiko's counter

There's a lot of good wake-up option depending on the character

But fuck Kitana anti air assist. I hate it.

[subtle oyster]

Your wakeup options are generally armored special, block, or maybe wakeup buttons (such as a jab string etc)

It’s more advantageous if your character’s armored attack is an advancing move

To catch them back dashing or back walking to space it in addition to general utility in neutral

[wind hedge]

Yeah I do the armored kick and stuff every once in a while. But wake-up assist have armor right

[subtle oyster]

Umm I’m not sure. It may depend on the assist but from what I’ve seen generally no

[wind hedge]

So like, the Serena kick. That's armored for sure on wakeup

I'm almost positive

[subtle oyster]

It’s possible, I haven’t seen anyone do it. I can test it later

[wind hedge]

Ah alright

I'll probably end getting some games on recording that are actually close

[subtle oyster]

I can tell you have fighting game fundamentals from watching you so I think you’ll pick it up quick

[wind hedge]

I have a lot of time just playing KOF and anime fighters so I have some bones

[subtle oyster]

Yeah I think Oliver told me you were a good KoF player

[vague creek]

Bruh what they do to sub zero 😭

Give him back NRS

[subtle oyster]

What did you see

[vague creek]

Where's the damage

I saw someone use 3 bars for LESS damage than just 1

Identical ass combo too

[subtle oyster]

@tough rock likes Sub Zero

He will get a buff soon I think

[vague creek]

Clone also kind of sucks now

[tough rock]

With Lao?

[subtle oyster]

Whoever you like him with

[subtle oyster]

They nerfed it pretty hard I think

[vague creek]

Also what's the opinion on Stryker

All I see is sareena and the two robots

[tough rock]

Clones more of a hard read or combo extender

[vague creek]

That handcuff assist is funny as hell

[subtle oyster]

He’s solid

[vague creek]

I wanna happy chaos someone tho😭

[wind hedge]

Shout out Darrius. He's funny as hell

[subtle oyster]

Like honest to god solid kameo that not a ton of people use

[wind hedge]

Love the set up for the overhead but no one's blocked it yet

[vague creek]

I just find him fun because I find simple shit in OP setting funny as hell

[subtle oyster]

Yeah I’m kinda curious about Darrius cause nobody really plays him

[wind hedge]

He's sick

He's got the Back assist call

Which covers like all of mid screen and behind him

[subtle oyster]

Yeah Stryker is funny as shit. Police brutality coming at ya lol

[vague creek]

He just arrests you 😭

[tough rock]

Geras gets some borderline bs overhead mixupss with Darrius

[wind hedge]

Then going into the kick and it takes the whole gauge because it has follow ups.

[vague creek]

I'm not even sure what the point of the assist is but I love it

[subtle oyster]

Of Stryker?

[tough rock]

Sucker punches Mileena

[wind hedge]

Re stand

[vague creek]

Yeah, the arrest assist

Because you can't combo off it or anything

[subtle oyster]

Oh yeah it’s just a restand

[subtle oyster]

Lmaooo I forgot about that

[vague creek]

I'm sad there's no brutality attached to it. Not that I'm aware of

[subtle oyster]

You can prob unlock it

[wind hedge]

I LOVE Darrius' throw

[subtle oyster]

Darrius is a goofy looking boy idk how he made it in the story

He looked so out of place by Quan chi and nitara and shit

[wind hedge]

It's way cooler seeing both characters fucking jump them then one character doing it

[subtle oyster]

I agree

[wind hedge]

Later I'm gonna do that one route you showed me with Darrius' to see what the damage is

[subtle oyster]

That’s a good idea you can probably get a cool extension at the end of it

You know what, fuck, if I’m thinking about him correctly he could be a great kameo for Johnny

[wind hedge]

I mean it's a stun but you can't properly get another bounce from it since they fall so fast after the 2nd bounce

[subtle oyster]

If it’s more damage it’s probably worth it tho

But you’re right

[wind hedge]

I mean yeah it's kick into the spin. So it might go coast to coast

[subtle oyster]

That would be cool

[wind hedge]

But I love Johnny he's fun and I got the cool skins

I wonder if there's any more from the invasions

[wind hedge]

And if you do kick into the overhead finisher it's the overhead set up. But since no one blocks it I can't figure out what Johnny can do to confuse them

[subtle oyster]

How you get the Indiana jones skin?

[wind hedge]

The loot box thing for a 1000 gold

[subtle oyster]

Aight cool

[wind hedge]

@subtle oyster

And you can do the overhead ender for set up and stuff

[subtle oyster]

Niiiiice it looks so cool

[wind hedge]

It's less damage than Cyrax. But yeah it got utility at least

[subtle oyster]

The damage doesn’t matter that’s PLENTY of damage

Cyrax gets the majority of his utility on block strings

That looks more than the cyrax damage

I don’t remember getting that much

[wind hedge]

Yeah the only utility of Darrius is the overhead and the set ups

Then that big ass normal he gives you

[subtle oyster]

Yeah I haven’t really labbed him yet but the end of that combo was swaggy

[wind hedge]

He's cool, plus it's double shades for the synergy

[subtle oyster]

Lol I didn’t even think about that but that’s true

[wind hedge]

I just wish that normal had armor in neutral

[subtle oyster]

I’m ngl I’ve dominated so many people in Kombat league and I haven’t done a parry yet and you got two back to back lol

That was so hype

[wind hedge]

It's one of them things I do in a lot of other fighting games. I still need to start up blocking

[subtle oyster]

Same it’s gonna be a while for me to up block

[wind hedge]

https://vxtwitter.com/HenTy56/status/1704662274898579559?t=p7tGhnJ0O_r5M1TT3qZnKQ&s=19

This game as well. She perfected me and we went back and forth so this game was 2-2

[subtle oyster]

Niiiice

Watching Kombat’s Johnny makes me feel like such a scrub

[wind hedge]

Oh who is that

[subtle oyster]

Pro player who mains Johnny. I’m pretty sure he has a Johnny guide video also

[wind hedge]

Ah okay. I don't think if ever heard of him unless I watched him and didn't notice his name

[subtle oyster]

He was one of the best players in MK11 and also played Johnny in that game

But yeah you’ll probably hear more about the pros when there’s a big tourney

[wind hedge]

Oh I thknk I have watched his 30 minute guide

I'm still figuring out what mids to use.

[subtle oyster]

Ohh I got you

Johnny is built off of frame traps and has the best mid in the game with F3

So

[wind hedge]

Yeah F3 goes crazy

[subtle oyster]

You can do 1-1 and you’re +3

Then immediately do your f3 string and they have to hold block

If they press anything they’re dead

F1 is also plus

1 is plus

2 is plus

[wind hedge]

I still gotta get used to frame traps still

[subtle oyster]

You hit ‘em with plus frames and then trap it with f3 and annihilate them

[wind hedge]

Yeah I get how frame traps work. It's just not auto piloting into 21X

Isn't F12 plus as well?

[subtle oyster]

When I first picked up the character I auto piloted on the 21 string too

I’m making a video with all the frame traps

All the frame traps into the f3 string

When I start my offense, I’ll do 1-1 fully expecting them to block, if it hits then you can hit confirm into rising star amp for a combo. If they block it then you get the free f3-2 string

Johnny is best in the hands of a player who recognizes when the opponent is going to press a button. He was marketed to be this crazy 50/50 machine but his best tool is the frame traps by a mile

[wind hedge]

I agree, he gets a pretty great reward off F32 but I know I'm gonna struggle with hit confirming in a live game

[subtle oyster]

What I do is go to practice mode and set the AI to block Random Kombo and practice my hit confirms there

That’s how I got good at them

[wind hedge]

I'll practice it tomorrow for sure. I want to finish the invasion but this damn boss Kitana is murdering me

[subtle oyster]

I haven’t had an invasion boss yet I imagine it’s a pain in the ass

[tough rock]

[wind hedge]

Kitana is so stupid because she puts you in a dodge like 4 waves of projectiles and then fight her on the 3rd phase

But I'm gonna try the sub Kameo to see if it works but I doubt it.

[subtle oyster]

That would be extremely helpful

I think

Also one last thing

Once you condition your opponent to fear your frame traps then you can really have fun

This was a match a few days ago. He expected the frame trap on F3 and held block. So I then did plus frame move, into plus frame move, into plus frame until he got impatient and then hit him with f32

[subtle oyster]

I tried explaining that to you in our games I always try to share my tech

[tough rock]

You definitely did. I was just living in a false world where 9 frame mids didn't exist in MK1

[subtle oyster]

We’ll play more and make the adaptations. I’m still trying to figure out Geras

As long as he has plus frames and the nine framer he will be a good character

[tough rock]

What part of geras are you trying to figure out?

[subtle oyster]

If they nerf the nine framer to an 11 framer he’s absolutely fucked and shit tier

[tough rock]

Nah they'll Liu Kang him and make it 10 frames

[subtle oyster]

I have a good sense of the character now to be able to lab him but if we were to fight again rn I’d still be wondering how minus some moves are etc

[tough rock]

And then Stephanie will make another smart-ass comment during a kombat kast about how people can stop complaining about Johnny's F3 like she did when they "nerfed" Liu's F4 in 11

[remote mountain]

would u say johnny has the best mid generally speaking? idk much other charas with solid mids

[subtle oyster]

Yeah it’s the best mid in the game from a rushdown perspective

[subtle oyster]

They honestly don’t need to nerf it I don’t think

[tough rock]

Kenshi's F2 is the best mid in the game imo

[tough rock]

They probably won't

[subtle oyster]

I honestly think you had the 3000IQ play with the armor

[remote mountain]

Playing against Zyxs kenshi for my first kenshi ever was def an experience lmao

that charas normals are dosgusting

[subtle oyster]

That’s why I said from a rushdown perspective. Kenshi’s f2 has crazy range and is pretty quick

Kenshi is just straight busted

The entire character is just stupid

[tough rock]

Although Geras' B1 is a 12 frame mid that hits from a mile away and leads into a meterless launcher that isn't punishable so idk

[subtle oyster]

Yeah Kenshi gets everything

[tough rock]

Except eyes

[subtle oyster]

Ohhhhh shit

[remote mountain]

i might try learning him, he was my main in x but he seemed really intimidating in this game

never meshed with stance or puppet charas

[subtle oyster]

I’d recommend it if you wanna ride top tier for the majority of the game

Probably the entirety of the game

[tough rock]

Do you like playing Zato? Because Kenshi is the zato of MK1

[remote mountain]

i sucked at negative edge lmao

[subtle oyster]

Doesn’t he get to hold a button which stops the spirit

Which makes negative edge 1000x easier

[tough rock]

He is a lot simpler than Zato though and you can do legit damage just by not summoning his ancestor (Eddy)

[subtle oyster]

I thought I saw a thing where he could hold L2 and do strings and the spirit won’t do shit or something

[tough rock]

You do have to hold R1 down if you don't want the spirt it follow you or auto attack

[subtle oyster]

R1 and down seems weird

[tough rock]

Not down. Just R1

[subtle oyster]

Ohhh my b

I see

It’s probably not even that hard

But I’m too lazy anyways

[tough rock]

If you use Frost and Sub kameo its also ridiculously easy to set up

[subtle oyster]

Yeah you hit them with your OP normal and freeze them and then summon the bastard

I get hit by his stupid ass overhead projectile too much too

[tough rock]

I do 14 into freeze then random sento moves

[subtle oyster]

Yeah I been doing cocaine and vodka the past two days so I just wanna 9 frame mid

[remote mountain]

true but i def feel like im missing out on so much by refusing to learn ghost lmao

ill see if i can figure it out

atleast he doesnt have charge inputs

[subtle oyster]

The way I see it, why rush it

Play who you want now then you’ll eventually learn it

I need to play scorpion eventually tho I always play him every game

[remote mountain]

I get that, i just personally always had a mindset of learning the optimal stuff at the beginning and avoid bad habits early

[subtle oyster]

Oh absolutely 100%

But I meant like

[remote mountain]

thats why i dont like those vids which show beginner combos and not just the optimal shit

[subtle oyster]

If you don’t feel like playing XYZ character rn then don’t

I’m 100% a proponent for getting the right habits early and building muscle memory

[subtle oyster]

I don’t either

Man me and @tough rock been in this channel by ourselves all alone talking shit to each other for over a year now and we finally got some homies in here

Makes me happy

Destroy Jade

Kombat is playing FoxyGrampa rn and whipping his ass👀

Not expecting that

[tough rock]

Many want to

[remote mountain]

reminds me when only 3 people here played dnf duel and i was one of em 💀

[tough rock]

I may or may not have been subtly hinting to my wife to dress up as Jade for Halloween once or twice too

[subtle oyster]

I played DNF duel for a whole two days

[tough rock]

Not that she listens to me or anything

[subtle oyster]

How many kids you tryna make?

[tough rock]

Touchy subject but.... enough to get my mom to stop pestering us about grandkids

[subtle oyster]

You live in NY and have kids? I thought I was making dough as a commercial banker but damn

But yeah I’m still getting pestered

[tough rock]

Just me my wife, her son and my cat lol.

My daughter was born this past February but there were.... complications

[subtle oyster]

I’m sorry to hear about that brother😔

[tough rock]

Thanks

[subtle oyster]

I was mistaken and thought you had a couple of sons

[tough rock]

Only the one step son that keeps grinding fighting games and oogling the women in said fighting games

[subtle oyster]

That’s him lol

So funny hearing you talk about him

[tough rock]

He understands the basics of MK hood enough but his attention drifts when I go into great detail

[subtle oyster]

He’s not picking Nitara? Lol

[tough rock]

But he'll listen to me with perfect attention if I'm helping him with Cammy in SF6 for example

[subtle oyster]

@tough rock Kombat is labbing rn and is like “they fucking killed Sub Zero”

[subtle oyster]

Makes sense makes sense

[tough rock]

This is how Bi Han turns into Noob.

[subtle oyster]

Lmfao

[tough rock]

He gets so mad he's bottom tier he dies from all the anger and comes back as Noob.

Just like Primeape and Annilihape in Pokémon

[subtle oyster]

It’s so funny that scorpion isn’t the incredibly pissed off one this game

A nice change of pace

[tough rock]

And Mileena isn't bat shit crazy

[subtle oyster]

I kinda loved the Mileena story ngl

She never had the spotlight like that

[tough rock]

I always thought if Kitana just embraced Mileena as a legit sister from the beginning she would have been even more loyal to Kitana than Jade is

[subtle oyster]

Yeah that’s a good point tbh

[tough rock]

Deep down all Mileena wanted was love and affection

[subtle oyster]

Mileena probably would have switched sides but literally nobody loved her

[subtle oyster]

Beat me to it

[tough rock]

And Tanya possibly didn't truly love her either

Pre MK1

[subtle oyster]

Like previous Mileena was one of the most saddest stories ever

Bro her friendship had a kitana jade and Tanya teddy bear in mk11

Speaking of, I hope they bring those back

[tough rock]

My unofficial headcannon is Mileena eventually hunted down and killed D'Vorah as revenge for killing Scorpion in Mk11 just because of Scorpion's teddy bear friendship

[subtle oyster]

Yeah the whole scorpion dying in MK11 was weird cause it was Hanzo dying in the arms of fucking Scorpion so it’s like that “oh no, anyways” meme

But that is an interesting conspiracy theory

[tough rock]

Nah, Sub Zero probably 50/50 her to death

[subtle oyster]

Kombat said Kenshi top 1 easy, Mileena, Baraka top 3. Johnny at 5 or 6

Geras maybe top 10

Sindel is good

Liu is great

[remote mountain]

Is it worth ending combos with Nut Punch when you can over the Kick special?

[subtle oyster]

What kameo you using?

[remote mountain]

I just have sareena equiped rn so I can meterlessly combo from the 9f mid

but i was mainly talking about his main bnb: 212 j2 212 F12 Nut Punch/Kick

[subtle oyster]

Those are the Enders

[remote mountain]

Im just talking about in general without assists, wouldnt the oki from nut punch be better than the kick?

[subtle oyster]

I think oki is fine either way

Before yesterday I ended in shadow kick now I end in nut punch and idk if I notice a difference

[remote mountain]

also do u use the parry at all on him?

DB1 not the FB

[subtle oyster]

I’ve done it but I don’t recommend it unless you’re trying to build hype

It’s there to build the hype meter

But I try to be oppressive in my offense so I don’t

[remote mountain]

I see, ty

[subtle oyster]

I personally don’t recommend Sareena kameo but she definitely hits like a truck and provides utility with the projectiles

That came off wrong

I don’t want to deter you from using who you want, but I think Johnny really benefits from a kameo that allows him to be plus on block

That’s my opinion tho and why I feel Cyrax and Kano are the current meta

[remote mountain]

what are his main buttons for pressure if he doesnt have his assist up?

[subtle oyster]

You have multiple buttons and strings that are plus on block, and a nine frame mid that can frame trap every single plus string

@remote mountain

This video shows all his frame traps

[remote mountain]

i see, yea this mid is mad fun lmao

[subtle oyster]

It’s awesome

[remote mountain]

I was struggling opening up opponents with reptile cause all his openers felt really slow

[subtle oyster]

The gameplan imo is to establish those traps and get him afraid to press. Once he’s afraid to press and properly conditioned, you can do whatever you want. You can do plus frame into more plus frame into more plus frame and watch them take it. You can throw the shit out of them.

[remote mountain]

fuck i keep getting disconnected from the servers in ranked

I didnt lose any elo but I was about to beat a way higher ranked opponent lmao

and yea johnnys normals def feel the most natural or best to me rn

[subtle oyster]

Once you’re on them yeah and it’s buttery smooth

He struggles against characters who have good pushback on their strings

[remote mountain]

Im just scared this chara is gonna make me learn offense heavily while I think I need to focus on defense the most

or atleast thats what I like learning the most in fgs lol

[subtle oyster]

In this game I’d focus on offense

You’re still gonna face all the lows and overheads and staggers

But you’re gonna eat shit if a Baraka player spaces optimally cause there won’t be anything you can do. You will learn that by understanding offense if that makes sense

[remote mountain]

True, I just prefer to win by making correct reads and punishes rather than overwhelming them in offense ig

[subtle oyster]

I understand that. But that’s gonna come with time. Youll neutral duck throws that you expect and highs. The strings that end in highs you’ll end up neutral ducking and comboing their ass.

You’ll expect the low or overhead etc

Your defense will get there with repetitions and reads, you don’t have to actively work on it

You do have to actively work on your offense with a character like Johnny tho

At least when you’re learning him at the start

[remote mountain]

wait wtf charas can combo off of throws?

[subtle oyster]

Some can yeah

Liu Kang with Kung Lao

Cyrax can amplify the throw into a combo

[remote mountain]

yea i just saw this

thats actually pretty dope lmao

[subtle oyster]

It’s awesome cause it doesn’t do too much damage

Benefits players who like to run strike throw

[sterile scarab]

https://vxtwitter.com/RewindNV/status/1704689895846084800?s=20

[subtle oyster]

Jesus

@kindred osprey you might like the goro kameo with Mileena

[round temple]

I looked at the health bar when the fatal blow was activating and got flashbanged

[sterile scarab]

even he was surprised lol

[subtle oyster]

The “I could have broke that” as his combo bar was at like 63% lmao

[kindred osprey]

Why?

I do like Goro
I just don't like having less health...

[tough rock]

Goro gives you a side switching air throw, makes virtually every string plus and gives stomp mixups

[vague creek]

And sub zero does no damage

I'm kind of salty about this now lmao

[tough rock]

Hot take but Sub needed the damage nerf. Beta Sub was casually dishing 30-35% combos with no bar or kameo off of one mixup

If you used Frost you were easily hitting 40%

[kindred osprey]

Cool, that is great tho
I'll lab more Goro then

[vague creek]

Probably

But not to this extent

[wind hedge]

@kindred osprey or anyone else up for some casual games this morning?

[kindred osprey]

I'm still at college

Maybe in like...
4h or so

[wind hedge]

Oh alright my B

[kindred osprey]

Nah
I wish I was home
Lol

[subtle oyster]

Makes ball roll safe

[tough rock]

https://youtu.be/AQvsL1CmWlo?si=QHzvb8KlzYAAMEkw

Roofle with the shade

[wind hedge]

Man, I kinda wanna try Kung Lao

He seems fun and like almost bad at nothing

[subtle oyster]

It’s easier in this game I feel

[tough rock]

Them being punishable definitely helps

[subtle oyster]

He has an armored launcher that can be made plus on block with the goro kameo

[subtle oyster]

For sure

[wind hedge]

Like watching Foxy Grandpa play him he just seems solid. I know he's good and everything it's a good showcase of the character I think

[subtle oyster]

He’s pretty solid. You should definitely try him out

[wind hedge]

Oh wow yeah he can actually combo into Shujinko REALLY well

[wind hedge]

Alright I'm finally OUT OF THE LAB. I'm excited to show off what I found out

https://vxtwitter.com/HenTy56/status/1704907251473915929?t=f_PFn6QVUW-BZQ1ETbKYAQ&s=19

I WAS FIGHTING FOR THESE ROUTES. Please praise me.

[subtle oyster]

These are sick

[sterile scarab]

the only kung lao video ive seen so far

[wind hedge]

Yeah they got more optimized as they went on but yeah I like these 2 together a lot

[subtle oyster]

Anyone wanna play in like an hour? I want to learn Ashrah

[kindred osprey]

Ping me
I'll be on if I'm not asleep
Lol

[subtle oyster]

Will do

[fiery thistle]

21 is +116 on hit for her 👀

And only -7 on block

[subtle oyster]

Ashrah?

[fiery thistle]

P sure

Prolly got the notation wrong

[subtle oyster]

Yeah her 21 leaves them in a crumple state and you can combo

[fiery thistle]

It's very good

[subtle oyster]

Her f2 is godlike

[fiery thistle]

What's light kick? 3?

[wind hedge]

I'm up for losing some more just let me know when. If I don't reply assume I got busy

[subtle oyster]

It’s not light and heavy it’s usually left or right

But yeah 3 is kick

[fiery thistle]

And b4 is sweep?

[subtle oyster]

Maybe it’s light and heavy now

Usually yeah

Scorpion has that goated sweep with back 3

[fiery thistle]

The one that's like half screen?

[subtle oyster]

Yeah

It’s really minus tho

[wind hedge]

Man, Kung Lao is sick. But Foxy Grandpa is cheating with his set up

[subtle oyster]

Is it the buzz saw into the overhead?

[wind hedge]

Yeah

[subtle oyster]

Yeah it’s a cool setup

[wind hedge]

Damn near a 50/50 since the opponent needs to guess truly

[subtle oyster]

Yep such a deceptive overhead with the saw on the ground

Overhead will connect so many times

[wind hedge]

And if you block the overhead then the low saw he's like plus 2 in your face

I gotta see what Shujinko has for his buttons

I'd have every reason to assume they're plus but I don't know

[subtle oyster]

I might take a nap

Down to play later tho

[wind hedge]

Is anyone gaming this evening?

[wind hedge]

Damn @torpid sentinel I'm new

[light wren]

HenTyler? more like HenTraitor

Beat his ass

[wind hedge]

Bro let me live

[light wren]

Take his lunch money! shove him in a locker!

||NRS>SNK||

[wind hedge]

Yeah Rise is kicking the shit out of me as he does

[light wren]

Highkey from his name alone yknow he nasty at fighting games 🤣

[wind hedge]

Nah I never beat this man

GGs Rise

[torpid sentinel]

Ggs

Unless you really like Shujinko assist, I would suggest switching it for striker, Sareena or Frost

Cyrax is really good too

Shujinko is probably the hardest in the game to utilize fully

[wind hedge]

It wasn't an assist thing man, you were just kicking my ass

I gotta still learn how to defend in this game it feels very hard

[light wren]

Oh yeah I’ve been hearing people aren’t used to having a privileged block button

They’re like nani!

[wind hedge]

Nah blocking is alright but I can't ever figure out when to stop blocking. I end up getting throw looped damn near

[sterile scarab]

https://vxtwitter.com/itszaeok/status/1704670664248942736?s=20

the voice crack...

[fiery thistle]

is b12 on shao bugged?

it says its special cancelable but i cant get any followup

nvm it is

[wind hedge]

Any one wants to play games before I get off?

[subtle oyster]

I’m down

[wind hedge]

Ah I'm already in the middle of one my apologies

[subtle oyster]

No worries

[wind hedge]

https://vxtwitter.com/X_AZEEZ3/status/1704729433267990752?t=ucMEqNSYdVpkxUp6jhxJlw&s=19

This game, if I get with this I'll retire immediately

[subtle oyster]

Don’t upblock vs him lol

[wind hedge]

Nah people are JUST figuring out that Darrius is good

Since Reiko gets proper combos from him

But I've always liked him

I never ever tried throw combos with him

[sterile scarab]

oh boy

gotta get used to using a block button

[round temple]

And now, the end is near
And so I face the final curtain
My friend, I'll say it clear
I'll state my case, of which I'm certain

I've lived a life that's full
I've traveled each and every highway
But more, much more than this
I did it my way

[remote mountain]

@subtle oyster youre learning ashrah right? you got any vids you used to learn her bnbs? Im using goro cuz i saw that one vid from roofl where he shows how you can combo from her throw with it and she seemed pretty cool

ik im swapping charas a lot lmao but her playstyle seem to fit my playstyle a bit instead of rushdown

oh shit she can also combo from throw with scorpion kameo too lmao

[subtle oyster]

I came up with my own bnb’s after doing the combo trial

Rn using Sareena kameo with her

[remote mountain]

aight, i think i can make do with a tourney vid i saw with her and ill just try to copy their combos lmao

but i need to unlock all the kameos first

[subtle oyster]

I’ll show you the formula I use

Oh my god my video isn’t downloading from the PS app

[subtle oyster]

@remote mountain

Finally let me download

[remote mountain]

tysm, which air combo is that?

[subtle oyster]

122

Back forward 2

[remote mountain]

aight ill try practicing it in a bit

[subtle oyster]

Liu Kang with Lao looks fun

Kung lao with goro is busted lmao

[vague creek]

I'm honestly surprised cmd grabs don't severely hurt the scaling in this game

That's like a common theme in most FGs

[subtle oyster]

They do but if you up block and get hit then it’s going to hurt

[vague creek]

What's the difference then?

Does that grab not hit crouchers?

[subtle oyster]

Grab is a high but there’s a new mechanic in this game call “Up Block”

When you up block, you are taking a risk and betting that they are going to overhead. If you up block an overhead, you can punish them.

But if you get hit while you up block then it will do more damage

[vague creek]

Isn't that just blocking standing?

[subtle oyster]

Stand blocking will block the overhead but it doesn’t make safe overheads punishable

[vague creek]

Wait how do you up block then?