Mortal Kombat

[light wren]

You’re fantastic bro

[light wren]

Damn Brandon was right that shit ass

[tough rock]

@subtle oyster these early story fights are throwing me off

Also, whoever decided to make Kung Lao's spin move DU3 woke up and chose chaos

[subtle oyster]

Yeah you’re gonna enjoy the future events with your favorite characters tho

[subtle oyster]

@tough rock I’m coming around to fuckwad in this game

[tough rock]

So... what does fuckwad mean in this instance lol? Nothing

[subtle oyster]

You know who fuckwad is

[tough rock]

GERAS???

[subtle oyster]

Play the story and see fuckwad yourself

[tough rock]

I just got to Kenshi's chapter

Wife came home sadly

[kindred osprey]

How's it going?
Any opinions for now?

No spoilers, just good or bad?

[subtle oyster]

I’m much further

You’ll love it

[kindred osprey]

Watching the whole story rn

[tough rock]

Why?

[kindred osprey]

On Mileena's Chapter
Still an hour and smt to go

[kindred osprey]

Cuz I'll only buy the game in like a month
I can't wait that long to see the whole story

LMAO

[subtle oyster]

Best story in NRS

[tough rock]

Kung Lao and Raiden's chapter threw me off mostly because of them not having their full kit.

I like it so far

[kindred osprey]

Yeah, that was a bit weird
But cool nonetheless tbh
I really like them more than last timeline

[subtle oyster]

After playing Sindel I might main her

Raiden was a surprise I like him a lot

[tough rock]

I'm not sure if I'm gonna continue the story or go lab

[subtle oyster]

I’m finishing then labbing my ass off

[kindred osprey]

Tell me when you finish

I kinda wanna discuss it so much
Maybe DMs
Lmao

[subtle oyster]

Sure thing

[subtle oyster]

Okay it gets better

[kindred osprey]

Where you at?
I'm at final chapter...

[subtle oyster]

Just beat it

[kindred osprey]

DMs?

[subtle oyster]

Yeah dm whenever

[subtle oyster]

They nerfed Li Mei’s lanterns😡😡😡

[vague creek]

Good

MK 1 looks cool

I genuinely think I'm gonna end up boring and play subzero

[subtle oyster]

I absolutely despise sub zero for MK11 and refuse to play him ever again but he’s far from boring

He has tons of tools you can utilize and he’s really solid. You can play whatever kameo you want also

[vague creek]

I kind of like asshole sub zero 😂

[subtle oyster]

He’s definitely edgelord 9000 in this game cause it’s the older brother OG Sub

[vague creek]

Yeah it's noob isn't it

[subtle oyster]

Yeah

[remote mountain]

yo does any other chara have a parry other than reiko and johnny cage fatal blow?

[tough rock]

@subtle oyster i just got to Ashrah's chapter

I gotta go back and watch Ronda's Sonya but.... Megan Fox isn't doing herself any favors

[subtle oyster]

I’m telling you it’s dogshit

[tough rock]

@subtle oyster holy shit they actually did it

They made Scorpion's teleport a straight line and not diagonal

[gritty marlin]

I get back home tomorrow

I brought my PS5 with me so I have labbed a little here and there

And let me tell you something

Baraka having movement is ... Man

Long overdue

[tough rock]

I just got Severe MK9 PTSD

[light wren]

@subtle oyster HOWS HAVIK

[tough rock]

What in the hell was that last chapter?

[kindred osprey]

I was gonna say that
I hate Kuai Liang
But Bi Han is amazing

[kindred osprey]

She's cute, isn't she?

[vague creek]

Nah kuai Liang was cool

But I think having asshole sub zero again was long overdue

[tough rock]

Ummm. Sure?

[kindred osprey]

Idk
I just wanna hug her

[kindred osprey]

Yes, I really love him rn

[vague creek]

Smoke is also the nicest lin kuei

[kindred osprey]

I was so confused on the first chapter
I really thought he was gonna be a thug
Lmfao

[subtle oyster]

I haven’t played him yet. Not many have

I just kinda liked the whole brothers and sisters thing. Hated it initially but it was a nice change of pace

[tough rock]

I'm gonna try Havik when I get home

Now that story mode is done I'll lab Geras and a few others

[subtle oyster]

How do you unlock him again?

Havik

[tough rock]

Beat story mode

[subtle oyster]

I already did

[tough rock]

Then you should have him

[kindred osprey]

Oh
You finished Story mode?
DMs?

[tough rock]

Sure but I'm about to drive so I may not answer right away

[light wren]

Lmk how Havik is

He’s the only character I’m interested in

[gritty marlin]

I gotta do the story to get havik

But I'll do it tomorrow when I get home

How many hours is it roughly?

[tough rock]

Havik at first glance is nice

[light wren]

I wish he had his morning star but it’s ok

[tough rock]

Literal disjointed normals,
A few 50/50s. deceptive long ranged pokes

An armored "get off me" move that is a launcher if it doesn't armored through a move. More safe strings than I thought he would have.
An unblockable crumple move that leads to a full combo and a delayed fireball that locksdown

And this is without Kameos

[vague creek]

3 and a half hours of cutscenes apps

[tough rock]

And a fireball that launches it used in a combo

[gritty marlin]

For cutscenes, not bad

Havik is my second character to try because he's my favorite mk character

But I had to try out Raka first since he was one of my mains in 11

[light wren]

Wow what a guy 🥰

[kindred osprey]

Please tell me when you finish it

[gritty marlin]

Sure will Luna! 🫡

[kindred osprey]

🙂

[tough rock]

MK1's definition of "Mid" range for fatalities is anything but mid

[kindred osprey]

LMAO

[north mango]

Dayum, do you have any footage of this?

[fiery thistle]

bruh i hate these 46 inputs

[tough rock]

I'm finally about to lab some characters lol

Properly lab because all I did with Havik was run him through tower

[tough rock]

Bruh I'm convinced life just won't let me play MK1 right now

[kindred osprey]

Ok
So explain me MK notations
1234 is literally ABCD?

B, F, U, D is pretty intuitive, right?
Back, Foward, Up, Down

AHHHHHHHH
MY BROTHER SAVED ME
He bought MK1
I can play on his account

[tough rock]

LFG

[kindred osprey]

I can't play ranked tho
Just so I don't level him up too quick

[tough rock]

I can translate 1234 into SF6 notation if it helps

1 is LP
2 is MP
3 is... MK?
4 is HK?

[kindred osprey]

But yeah
I'll lab later today
It's still downloading

[tough rock]

The kicks are interchangeable

[kindred osprey]

Easier to just PS notation
1 is Square
2 is Triangle
3 is X
4 is Circle

Right?

[tough rock]

Aside from story mode and 20 minutes of Havik and Geras lobbing I haven't touched online

Everytime I try to play some BS makes get up and not play

[kindred osprey]

If that's it, then it's just Kof notation
But with numbers

[tough rock]

Yes

[kindred osprey]

OK!
Amazing

[tough rock]

Every character has two universal moves. Back 3 is a sweep attack that knockdowns. And D2 is an uppercut

The d2 uppercut does 14% damage

[kindred osprey]

Same as 9, no?

[tough rock]

Yeah

[kindred osprey]

Amazing
Love it

9 is probably my fav FG of all times
MK9 and SF6

[tough rock]

If you block something but don't know what to do, just panick D2

[kindred osprey]

Oh yes
Best punish

[tough rock]

No, not best punish but its the easiest punish until you learn what strings and specials work

[kindred osprey]

Specially if they can't just duck it and Crushing Blow D2

[tough rock]

There are no crushing blows

[kindred osprey]

Exactly
That makes me so happy

That shit got me so pissed in 11

[kindred osprey]

Ok
So best way to get gear?

And Mileena IS SO GOOD

LOVE HER

[kindred osprey]

Hm...
Can we skip story cutscenes?

OH YES

Gonna rush story mode
Lmao

Please tell me Kung Lao has that cmd grab outside of story mode

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey in finally free. Lmk if you want to play.

[tough rock]

The nuggie headlock? Yeah he had it but it isn't a command grab

[kindred osprey]

Sorry, I am not...
Not gonna play until tuesday...
Sad

[tough rock]

[fiery thistle]

how you liking it so far?

[kindred osprey]

I am LOVING it
Mileena is just SO FUN

Her gameplay is amazing

[subtle oyster]

On a FoxyGrampa’s Wednesday night stream

Is this video supposed to be bugging out or am I having a stroke

[tough rock]

Damn its bugged out

I'll try again

[subtle oyster]

1 = square, 2 = triangle, 3 = X, 4 = circle. Same notation as Tekken

Punches are 1 and 2. Kicks are 3 and 4

Jabs are always 1

If you hear someone say 1-1 or 1-2 string, that’s your jab string for example

[tough rock]

@subtle oyster different video but same combo only with Kameos

[subtle oyster]

They’re gonna nerf my beloved Johnny and Li Mei but allow this😡

[tough rock]

51% One bar, two kameo bars and the Kombo is long enough to regain a kameo bar at the end

[subtle oyster]

I have story completion at 100% but Havik isn’t unlocked. Is there other shit I have to do?

[tough rock]

Not that I know of

[remote mountain]

who are the defensive characters in the game that arent zoners?

idk who ima start off with when it comes out for everyone else

[subtle oyster]

Idk if there are defensive characters. Maybe Tanya cause she has a parry and you can do 40% off of it

But she’s kind of a zoner

[remote mountain]

i see, any read-heavy based charas? ill have to look into tanya tho

[subtle oyster]

The game is kinda designed where everyone is read heavy imo. If you duck highs you punish etc

Or back dash and whiff punish

I can’t think of one that’s like old school Baiken

[remote mountain]

rip, guess ill look into tanya and sub zero when i get it

hopefully takeda is fun when he comes out

[subtle oyster]

Trying to optimize what I call the ABP method with Johnny

Always Be Plus

[kindred osprey]

@MK1 Matchmaking

Wife isn't out of work yet
I have like 2h

Lol

[tough rock]

I don't think that works lol

Also...

@kindred osprey

[kindred osprey]

It doesn't...
Lmao

[tough rock]

[kindred osprey]

You in?

GREAT

[tough rock]

I'll be on in like 5 minutes

[kindred osprey]

Ok!

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey whats your PSN?

[kindred osprey]

spidervicluc

[subtle oyster]

You bought the game?

[kindred osprey]

My brother
That's his account

[subtle oyster]

Ohhh I gotcha

[tough rock]

@subtle oyster isn't your psn Wakeup Uppercut or something like it?

[kindred osprey]

Aw
Loved the interaction

[subtle oyster]

Yeah

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey i wanted the sandstorm

[kindred osprey]

LOL
Rlx

[tough rock]

I'm so sorry for the fatality

[kindred osprey]

That was cool

[kindred osprey]

Now we're even

[tough rock]

Lol

[kindred osprey]

I threw
Idk why I thought you'd fireball there

[tough rock]

I forgot everything beta sub taught me

[subtle oyster]

Yolo overhead starter and ice Klone a lot

[kindred osprey]

The supers have no invinc

[tough rock]

FUCK

I forgot about the klone

[subtle oyster]

They have armor after a number of frames

[kindred osprey]

Ohhhhh
Havik

[tough rock]

I'm venturing into the unknown

[kindred osprey]

Oh
Should've told me

LMAO

[tough rock]

Mirror time

[kindred osprey]

Ohhhhh

[tough rock]

Whoever made Mileena's teleport kick not a Down down input can step on legos

[kindred osprey]

Last match

GGs!!!!!!

[tough rock]

@kindred osprey ggs

[kindred osprey]

I really need to learn the game
Idk how to play MK
Lmao

[tough rock]

I may pocket mileena lol

[kindred osprey]

She's so cool

[subtle oyster]

You can learn

Is there a match replays section?

[tough rock]

Thats a good question

@subtle oyster @kindred osprey there are replays

Hit the TouchPad, go to kareer, then replays all the way to the right

[subtle oyster]

Thanks homie

[tough rock]

The replays aren't like SF6's where it shows frame data

[subtle oyster]

Idc about the frame data aspect

[tough rock]

You can one and done out of a Kombat League set

Kinda defeats the purpose of ft3 imo

[subtle oyster]

They do FT3 cause the games are faster and there’s more to adapt to with kameos

If they one and done then they just don’t wanna play and they would have lost anyways

[tough rock]

@subtle oyster found geras' tick throws

[subtle oyster]

Fuck off

[fiery thistle]

shao khan is so fun

[tough rock]

I literally got yelled at in game chat by a child for... blocking

[fiery thistle]

mk is back babyee

[remote mountain]

everytime i hear abt children crying abt mk i always remember that one JWong clip

and i was def one of those kids who complained abt blocking when i was a kid playing mkx with my friends lmao

[tough rock]

You gonna learn today! whips out RPG

Screams in the mic, "I CAN BLOCK TOO YOU NOOB!"

Gets command grabbed by Geras

Continued Screaming

[subtle oyster]

I love seeing people on Reddit, and this has happened multiple times, people are like “WHAT DO I DO AGAINST BLOCK SPAMMERS”

And we’re like wut

[tough rock]

I'm seeing a lot of people who I can straight up tell have never played an NRS game before

Like I fought a Johnny who uses his rising uppercut move like an ex dp.

A few people that try to mash low pokes

And one specific Mileena player who im assuming is a Blanka/Honda player because as soon as I was like half screen away, Mileena ball

[subtle oyster]

People who mash low pokes are just scrubs

Scrubs yolo shit but they just get punished for it in MK unlike Blanka ball

Random scorpion teleports was a Kombat league scrub thing in 11

[tough rock]

I hit a 41% Geras punish on a yolo Mileena ball. Felt soothing

[tough rock]

Mileena is the new scorpion i regards to Yolo teleports

[subtle oyster]

I think Smoke is because he’s safe with it and can just do it 24/7

He’s the Blanka/Honda of MK1

[tough rock]

I haven't fought a smoke yet

[last needle]

https://vxtwitter.com/neoncaelestis/status/1703111955907780621?s=46&t=Q5G3bZ4Assj29HZn5I7YIw

[subtle oyster]

Switch Johnny looks like he’s been chilling in the oven on low heat for an hour while snorting a pound of cocaine

[tough rock]

One Kombat Pack 2 Kameo character has been allegedly datamimed

[subtle oyster]

What’s a komatsu

[tough rock]

Komatsu is what auto correct changed Kombat to lol

[subtle oyster]

I’ve had 5 people leave after the first match and I didn’t get credited with the win on the set😡

[subtle oyster]

My Kombat kard record says 39-1 but I don’t remember losing

I don’t remember playing 40 games either

Prob bugged

[subtle oyster]

So sub got nerfed pretty good since the beta it seems

[subtle oyster]

My frame data is bugged and it’s showing Scorpion has 1 frame startup on all his moves

[round temple]

Damn fr? Busted ass character smh nrs

[subtle oyster]

Yeah I’d main the shit out of him if that was the case lol but it shows he’s -15 on block on like everything too lol

I can’t find anyone else who has this issue

[subtle oyster]

Maximillion Dood playing Reptile “I wish this character had more turn your brain off moves”

AFoxyGrampa playing Reptile “This character is full potato”

[vague creek]

Smoke's invisibility feels degenerate at times lmao

[subtle oyster]

It’s supposed to be but it hasnt been used at high level tourneys yet that I’ve seen

[gritty marlin]

@kindred osprey did the story mode yesterday

[tough rock]

Just got done with a 12 match set with a Kenshi player. Won 8-4 but man Kenshi with Sub or Frost is cracked

[fiery thistle]

i wanna learn him so bad

but his negative edge stuff is wack

[tough rock]

Potential future Kombat Pack spoiler below

||Kung Jin|| has intro lines recorded

Allegedly

[tough rock]

@subtle oyster i herby dub Smoke MK1's WiFi Sub Zero

[fiery thistle]

have any of you played ashara yet? thoughts on her?

[subtle oyster]

Yeah I got that vibe

[subtle oyster]

She looks really strong I haven’t played her yet

[fiery thistle]

yeah my thoughts too

her triangle square string is wack

[tough rock]

I've fought like 10 Ashrah's in Kombat League so thats tempting me to try her out

Or maybe all the Reptile fans are playing Ashrah because they're now a canon couple

Also @subtle oyster I need to find a secondary

Also need to find a main Kameo for Geras

[fiery thistle]

idk how to evaluate kameos

[tough rock]

I don't know enough about all the Kameos but from who I use,

Sareena gives you full screen neutral and combo extenders via projectiles and can steal meter

Frost gives unscalled frozen combos and pressure. Also easily allows Kenshi and Havik setups and launchera

Sub is a giant middle finger to zoning (I love it) and frozen combo potential. Same combo potential as frost

Darrius is another combo extender with cheeky Overhead/low mixups.

Stryker gives overhead/low mix but from what I can tell doesn't lead to follow ups

[fiery thistle]

Only one I've used has been shao and sonya

To basically allow confirms from his 12 kombo

[tough rock]

Be careful if you care about future dlc spoilers, Switch was datamined and a lot of costumes and some intro lines for future characters. Two that aren't announced yet

They're all over my Twitter feed

[remote mountain]

Another good kameo is Cyrax for chip dmg. A scorpion who just won some tourney would do his special into the Cyrax for pressure + chip and itd lead to 10%+ dmg on block every time

He just did that over and over every time he got oki

[subtle oyster]

I heard about that but I didn’t know how he won

[subtle oyster]

Same. I’m looking at Scorpion, Reptile, Mileena, rn. I also wanna play Ashrah

[subtle oyster]

Considering you play all the characters I’ll never play you should play Reiko

[round temple]

Fun video lol

https://youtu.be/c4GFS-jQ-TY?si=Al0lWBIzynt-WFdb

[subtle oyster]

Yeah Baraka plus Cyrax is fucking insane for chip damage

It’s broken

@tough rock you should use cyrax and Sektor with Geras

[remote mountain]

I wish baraka had smthing a bit extra so Id consider playing him. He was one of my mains in mk11 but he seems really simple in this game

Hes def effective just very simple

[vague creek]

I swear he's always been the stabby stab dude

[remote mountain]

true but before he had stuff like flags or smthing

[vague creek]

Does he still have a projectile?

They took away Johnny's projectile which makes me kind of sus

I quite like my projectiles in FGs

If I can't have a projectile I'll settle for big normals

[remote mountain]

yea his projectile is actually decent

its pretty fast but its a high so its still duckable

but its enough for fireball wars

[vague creek]

How's sub zero?

For fireballs

[fiery thistle]

I've felt that ice ball is slow as fuck for startup

[remote mountain]

his ice ball is super slow and is a high (so its mainly for combos or when ur behind clone and have to approach) and his ice clone punch is a mid so it cant be ducked but it doesnt go full screen

so id say hes a little below average in fireball wars but otherwise the projectiles are decent enough if sub zero is the one on defense and theyre trying to approach

[remote mountain]

have you also looked at reiko? he has a really good projectile and big normals with disjointed kicks and a disgusting overhead

[vague creek]

When I can get on my hands on the game I will

But I actually like the look of sub in this game

He's... cool

Also, Kenshi really does just jump you huh

[subtle oyster]

Sub’s best projectile is his mid projectile. His ice clone and damage got nerfed during the beta tho. Baraka has a decent projectile but it’s not great. A lot of characters have good projectiles but there are ways around projectiles.

I’ve seen the light. Probably about to go into a cave and change mains and see if I can craft this wonderful tech

Will be punishing blocked down 1’s with 40+%😌

[vague creek]

He's my favourite ninja and I love the clone stuff

I'm not too bothered about character strength

I love Johnny I really do, but him being all rushdown and mix now throws me off

So if anything he's a secondary

The only other characters I'm somewhat interested in is Smoke, Raiden, Reptile, and potentially Reiko

[fiery thistle]

Kinda wack they cut quan and ermac for dlc 1

[subtle oyster]

Well they made clone incredibly weak for some reason

[vague creek]

I guess it's less of a combo thing now

[subtle oyster]

I watched a match where Shao just kept hitting him out of it

[vague creek]

But I can still hide behind it and stuff right?

[subtle oyster]

You can

But I think it doesn’t last as long either

[vague creek]

Well that's fine, I can live with that

[subtle oyster]

D4 into clone is effective

[vague creek]

Was he really OP in the beta then?

I heard Kenshi was OP in the beta

[subtle oyster]

He was good but not OP. Every character except Liu and Kitana got nerfed

Kenshi is still potentially the best

[vague creek]

I did see that nutty chip damage

And having to deal with the whole Zato one guy on each side thing

When I get my hands on the game I'll try sub zero first I reckon

Then Johnny

How's the ice freeze thing he has? The one where he roots you in place?

[subtle oyster]

That’s a good combo extender

I can show you Johnny I play him

[vague creek]

Cool!

I'll let you know when I get on

[subtle oyster]

Sounds good

[tough rock]

At least they added Klone

[remote mountain]

they did? werent they literally in that one trailer

that seems really scummy to promise them like that lmao

[fiery thistle]

No they're played in the story with fully functional movesets

Just not in base roster

[subtle oyster]

The movesets are manufactured from MK11 Shang Tsung and MK11 Noob Saibot but yeah it’s really weird

[fiery thistle]

???

That's even weirder

I won't lie their ai is way worse compared to other characters

[subtle oyster]

Not sure what is going on there. Maybe needed more time with the movesets and the pre fight intro lines or what

[tough rock]

Its dumb that the main antagonists of Story mode are locked behind DLC

Also I'm really starting to despise Smoke

[fiery thistle]

Most likely both. NRS has basically always valued appearance over use

I really don't like the combo system so far

[tough rock]

The amount of Salt im getting for playing Geras is amazing

[fiery thistle]

How you liking him do far? His ts combos look super unique

[tough rock]

Geras combos are certainly unique

I like him so far but I haven't tried everyone yet

He's got easy 30% damage combos with no bar

But kinda relies on whiff punishing to do so,

[subtle oyster]

The combo system is amazing

[fiery thistle]

I should be more specific. I don't like the input buffer system for the combo system

[subtle oyster]

There’s pros and cons to it. It makes it to where you have to commit to some stuff beforehand and think about your offense before running it

The FT3 is saving my ass when going against characters I’m unfamiliar with

[subtle oyster]

Smoke is the annoying fucker now

[tough rock]

Unanimous

[subtle oyster]

I haven’t fought a Geras yet but man he’s annoying

[tough rock]

You wanna fight one?

But I haven't fought a Sindel, Reiko, Rain, Shao, Tanya another Geras or Nitara yet

Online

@subtle oyster I can't tell if I'm so used to Geras getting 30% easily, or if they nerfed they hell out of Sub's damage

[subtle oyster]

They nerfed subs damage and his clone

[subtle oyster]

Yeah but I gotta eat in a bit so maybe later

Just finished a set vs a Raiden and I was getting heated

[tough rock]

Yeah I went back and watched beta clips. Sub Combos I hit for over two bars 40% barely hit for 31% now

[subtle oyster]

Yeah he got hit hard he might be bottom tier now

Conditioning is fun

But man does this characters buttons in neutral suck ass. I need to find me a secondary

[tough rock]

I'm currently trying to find a secondary and it ain't going so well

[subtle oyster]

I can play Li Mei and probably scorpion but I think I wanna play Sindel or Ashrah

I have yet to fight a scorpion or sub zero in Kombat league yet tho lol

[tough rock]

Sindel is lookingiek my secondary

[subtle oyster]

Her f4 is looking nice again

[remote mountain]

how often does NRS patch their games? other modern fgs seem like its like 2 balance patches max a year but idk about how it was for MK before

[subtle oyster]

It’s usually a few per year

[remote mountain]

i wnna if im gonna be able to stick to a chara for long term or if im gonna learn multiple charas to expect any changes

[fiery thistle]

Man I miss kotal and obliterating neutral with f2

[subtle oyster]

It’s not like guilty gear where they will completely change the character’s combo routes like they did with Giovanna

[fiery thistle]

It's usually QoL and damage stuff right?

If I'm remembering mk11 correctly

[subtle oyster]

Generally QoL damage and startup and recovery frames

[remote mountain]

oh nice, ik its literally been less than a week but some of the charas ive been interested in seem to be considered top tier so i was worried lmao

Raiden and smoke seem really cool but apparently theyre also pretty busted

[fiery thistle]

doesnt raiden have a 100% combo?

[remote mountain]

he seems to get a lot of easy access high dmg combos

[subtle oyster]

The top tiers in this game are more balanced than top tiers in previous NRS games

Smoke may not be top tier but he is for sure fucking annoying to deal with and I haven’t figured him out yet

Also the top tiers in MK11 kinda remained at the top for the lifetime of the game

[remote mountain]

Smokes dash cancel to be safe on blockstrings seem really fun

[subtle oyster]

That’s the thing I like about him not his fuck neutral stuff

[remote mountain]

his safe overheads and lows seem really strong too lmao

all that mix and he gets good dmg off of it

i just like all the animations he does with the jkarambit tho

[tough rock]

@subtle oyster its official

I'm dodging anyone with a Smoke banner Icon

I'd rather fight Honda or Blanka

[subtle oyster]

If you like him play him! Don’t let me venting about him deter you

[subtle oyster]

The only Kombat league loss I’ve had so far was smoke and it went down to the wire.

[remote mountain]

yea i havent even gotten the game yet, just trying to figure out which charas i will possibly enjoy for the long term

[subtle oyster]

There could be some character and kameo combination that you see and you instantly say I wanna do that

[tough rock]

@remote mountain whos your main in other fighting games?

[remote mountain]

i typically main charas with proactive defense/charas with parries with good dmg but that doesnt really exist in this game

[tough rock]

Tanya has... some type of guard and parry

[remote mountain]

ik reiko and tanya have one but its not their gameplan really

it looks pretty weak in this game but maybe itll be good enough lmao. I dont really like her stock system tho

[tough rock]

Sub Zero Kameo kinda turns anyone defensive for a few seconds

[remote mountain]

yea the kameos are def smthing i have to get my hands on and experiment with

[tough rock]

He let's you walk down zoners but if you're looking for Rev 2 Baiken, I don't think a character like that exists

[remote mountain]

I usually like read-based charas with high dmg which fits with the whole parry thing, but it looks like theres nothing like it yet

[subtle oyster]

Sub zero the main character is defensive in this game too

[remote mountain]

true, sub zero getting his ice clone is def gonna be the reason i check him out first

[tough rock]

Ice Klone is like hard read 101 imo

[remote mountain]

i saw some gameplay vids of people just special cancelling blockstrings into ice clone to retreat every time and it seemed pretty funny lmao

[tough rock]

Just because its active for like 2 seconds

[remote mountain]

sub zero is likely gonna be my safe pick i learn but i usually like having 2-3 charas to play so ill have to look around and have fun

maybe kameos will make it so i dont feel the need to constantly swap charas and instead swap between combinations

[subtle oyster]

You can definitely do that

[tough rock]

I swap between Sub Zero and Darrius with Geras depending on what character I'm fighting

[remote mountain]

kameos def seem more my style over variations like mkx and 11

It felt depressing that i had to miss out on fun specials compared to kameos which seem to have so much variability

[subtle oyster]

It way better

Way way better

[tough rock]

Some kameos have at least one defensive option

[remote mountain]

all ive seen of combos so far has just been combo extensions (mainly sareena lmao)

[tough rock]

Sub let's you walk down zoners. (Ice armor that absorbs 5 projectiles)

Scorpion can spear you away from punishes.

Sareena drains opponents meter (but no one uses her for that)

Motaro can teleport you to a safe space (Dont have him unlocked so I can't give more details.)

Kung Lao can teleport you too but its mostly for combos

[remote mountain]

i forgot which game had an assist where it was a parry/body block but i hope smthing like that is implemented in mk1 someday

oh yea it was the jojo fighting game lmao

[subtle oyster]

I think I should be using cyrax kameo

[fiery thistle]

i did the kenshi trials!

[subtle oyster]

I forget about the combo trials

I’m gonna do some

[remote mountain]

fuck me i thought itd be out at 12AM PT but ig not lmao

[subtle oyster]

Are you on PC?

[remote mountain]

yea steam

apparently its only steam

[subtle oyster]

Yeah I heard about that

[remote mountain]

idk by how much tho

[subtle oyster]

The game isn’t running well on PC so I only play on PS5

[remote mountain]

also fuck that one article i read saying itd be out by 9PM PDT lmao

[subtle oyster]

Lmk how yours runs

[remote mountain]

I just upgraded my PC so hopefully it runs decent enough

[subtle oyster]

I have a 3080ti and the best CPU on the market and it stutters a lot

[remote mountain]

Fuckkk lmao

nvm then

[subtle oyster]

It’s luck of the draw I think

If I can get my shit together I’m down to play with you tho

[remote mountain]

aight ty ill lyk

do we know when crossplay comes out too? it seems kinda annoying that a modern fg doesnt have crossplay lmao

especially one of the biggest ones

[subtle oyster]

No we don’t. Crossplay for PC isn’t guaranteed but I noticed there is cross progression between accounts so the framework is there

[remote mountain]

fingers crossed then, ty

[subtle oyster]

The PC community is thriving tho so you’ll find matches easily

[remote mountain]

true, i have a couple friends that play on console and im sure theres also people here that also play console so the more i can play against the better

[subtle oyster]

Yeah for sure

[vague creek]

There's something hilarious and beautiful about Shao Kahn just dropping his axe and beating your ass with his bare hands

Reminds of that Henry Cavill meme where he "reloads" his fists

[vague creek]

Wait characters have different healths in this game?

[subtle oyster]

Kameos can alter them

[subtle oyster]

I also think Nitara has slightly less health cause she can regain some

[fiery thistle]

? I'm having no issues. But I also set my graphics to medium

[subtle oyster]

You’re a lucky one

Do you have AMD or NVIDIA graphics card

[fiery thistle]

Nvidia

Idk what cpu I have exactly

P sure it's intel

[tough rock]

Bruh

https://youtu.be/nx8Z7-ftWPU?si=SPlps3mt8PXq2nIu

[subtle oyster]

Kenshi is maining SonicFox not the other way around

[tough rock]

This running gag that Kung Lao gets rejected by every female is one of my new favorites

[subtle oyster]

Same lol guy has no game

[tough rock]

Liu Kang's check list for creating new eras:

1. Know everything about everyone and make any serious threats live mediocre and basic lives.

2. Protect Kitana at all costs.

3. Keep Mileena sane.

4. Make sure Kung Lao gets no bitches.

5. Protect earthrealm.

[remote mountain]

got my hands on the game today and finished the story mode

and damn i realize ive been shit at mk LMAO

@subtle oyster i had some performance issues but only during cutscenes and fatal blows, luckily not anything gameplay wise

[subtle oyster]

I’m still shit at MK. I’ve lost two sets already in Kombat league ):

[subtle oyster]

Mine is during gameplay otherwise I’d play it

I’ve tried everything to get it fixed but nothing seems to work

Luckily the game runs well on PS5 and the controller isn’t terrible and there’s no cmd grab inputs for me

[remote mountain]

ah rip, they usually optimize their games for consoles so im glad that it runs good for u on that

[remote mountain]

im too scared to play ranked yet lmao, i cant even get specials down consistently cuz im too unfamiliar with the special cancel timings

i think ima pick a chara to practice but idk to choose scorp or smoke

[subtle oyster]

If you’re doing a special move after a string you’ll probably input it faster than you’re used to

[remote mountain]

yea going from strive to sf then this throws me off cuz they all have different timings

[subtle oyster]

Yeah it’s most similar to Tekken

I think about it like I’m committing to a string. If I’m doing 1-2 or 2-1 I just input that quickly before the animation on the screen

Also turn off release check in the setting menu if you haven’t already

Like do that ASAP

[remote mountain]

ah shit i just left the house lmao so ill do it when i get back

what does it do?

[subtle oyster]

I think it activates the input on button release not button press and it’s stupid as fuck and always on by default for some reason

[remote mountain]

ohh lol im surprised thats on by default

[subtle oyster]

Everyone is

I don’t understand it

I’m calling dibs on Ashrah she’s my new secondary

[remote mountain]

i think all 3 of the lin kuei are gonna be the charas ima learn lmao

im basic but theyre all cool to me

[subtle oyster]

Ain’t nothing wrong with that

I’ve labbed some scorpion but idk how I feel about him

Watching Punk play MK is hilarious

[remote mountain]

tbh i dont know what his archetype even is, it feels weird to call him a shoto but idk how else to describe it

[subtle oyster]

He controls neutral

He’s dangerous at full screen cause he can combo off spear and can amp teleport against an opponents projectile to combo them

His 2-1 string has great range so he can whiff punish often and he hits like a truck when he combos you

Long range buttons in this game are kinda rare

[tough rock]

Flexible Mami is my secondary

[tough rock]

Sindel's F1 says Hi

[remote mountain]

thanks for the explanation, ill need to look into more charas cuz there isnt much abt how each chara actually plays

roofls vid was the best one i found but he doesnt go as in depth as id like

[subtle oyster]

Yeah it won’t be very in depth

[sterile scarab]

Wooo

predownloaded the game

but what does this mean again

[subtle oyster]

Yeah but her and Ashrah are the few who have those long buttons

In comparison to MK11 where everyone had an advancing move to whiff punish

Jailing literally 5 different plus frame moves into a mid that can combo is so nice😌

[tough rock]

I haven't even tried Raiden or Baraka aside from story

[subtle oyster]

Raiden is fucking nuts

Baraka with cyrax is easy to use you can pick him up in a day

[tough rock]

Easier than using Baraka's Gutted variation in 11?

https://twitter.com/JWonggg/status/1703982580704649259?s=19

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[subtle oyster]

Yeah probably tbh. You don’t even have to hit confirm cause you go into his special move then cyrax kameo to stay safe/plus and you’ve dealt over 10% chip damage on block

And his combos are easy to do and do 40+%

[tough rock]

[subtle oyster]

I played him during the story mode and found him very easy to use and was going combos easy within my first game

Johnny is also easy to use and I can teach you him. I need to fight your Geras

[tough rock]

Have you fought one yet?

[subtle oyster]

Not a one

I’m assuming he isn’t top 1 busted launch MK11 Geras

[tough rock]

Nope lol.

Although Darrius gives him some borderline BS overhead mixups

[subtle oyster]

MKForeverKing is like rank 1 and plays Geras

Pretty sure he uses Cyrax and Sektor

Darrius is a goofy fucker I can’t believe he made it in the story

[tough rock]

I'm actually limiting myself by doing this, but I don't typically used my Kameos when I'm Geras.

I mainly use Darrius and Sub with Geras

[subtle oyster]

I switched to Cyrax today and I’m getting a ton of mileage out of him and been steam rolling

Probably play Sareena with Ashrah

[tough rock]

Sub simply so I can walk down Zoners and bop them with a 30-37% meter less combo for daring to throw a fireball in Geras B1 range

[subtle oyster]

Sub is such a good kameo

Game feels balanced tho I feel like there are a ton of characters fighting for a top 5 spot

[tough rock]

Yeah there doesn't seem to be a MK11 Mileena or Rambo at MK1 launch

[subtle oyster]

Sub zero might actually be the worst character in the game after those nerfs

After what they did in MK11 they deserve it😎

[tough rock]

Like, maybe Sub and Reptile don't do enough base damage

But thats like all I can think of

[subtle oyster]

Reptile was doing fine before the day 1 patch

You can’t do this damage anymore

[tough rock]

I legit think the first thing getting nerfed is the damage from Sareena's double kameo toss

[subtle oyster]

I think the damage is fine I just don’t think you should be able to kombo off it from full screen

That to me is bullshit

[tough rock]

Sareena can hit you full screen with one and geras can walk up and F2 you due to recovery frames on hit

That is bullshit blazing

[subtle oyster]

Yeah that’s what needs to be nerfed out of that. I’m fine with her being the heavy hitter cause she doesn’t provide much utility outside of that imo

But the fact she can instant projectile and combo you from full screen is stupid af

[subtle oyster]

I think a top 7 would be better cause I think Ashrah and probably Sindel can definitely be a top 5 character

[remote mountain]

idk if theres any other smoke players but is there a reason why i cant do smokes dash cancel if used in a combo?

I can do them perfectly fine outside of combos consistently but from shit like 1 1 dash cancel I cant get it at all

[subtle oyster]

I’ll lab it for you

[remote mountain]

tysm

I can only get it down like half the time but it feels like im doing it the same exact way

I can only not do it from 1 1 dash cancel, everything else seems fine for some reason

[sterile scarab]

reptile is cool

is invisibility actually good though

it kind of seems like a gimmick

[subtle oyster]

Do you mean on hit or on block?

Sorry for the shit quality my PS vid is not uploading

[remote mountain]

i cant do it on hit at all

only from other starters

[subtle oyster]

I noticed it was hard and took me a minute to get it. I noticed that the cancel (back plus R2) needs to be pretty much timed exactly at the same time

[remote mountain]

I can do it consistently outside of this one jab jab combo tho

[subtle oyster]

Usually I’d probably hit the back input first then do R2 but when I concentrated on hitting them at the same time I was getting it

[remote mountain]

I can do it from back 2 and just by itself

its just this specific string for me ig

[subtle oyster]

You might be hitting the back plus R2 too late or too early. This is one of the few times you need to pay attention to the animation and do it accordingly

I’m uploading a video of my inputs one sec

[remote mountain]

true, its prob just a personal problem, ill have to practice it a bit more to see

[subtle oyster]

What I do to get it consistent is do this input 1-1 BF3 quickly and instantly then slightly delay the cancel

[remote mountain]

I think i found the issue, in the corner its a shorter window compared to outside to cancel

but thats still weird to me cuz i can still get the window from back 2

yea its 100% the corner

[subtle oyster]

Okay nice.

@gritty marlin has been silent, he prolly out winning EVO

Probably gonna beat SonicFox and shit

[sterile scarab]

what does flipping stance do

[subtle oyster]

Not a damn thing don’t worry about it

Some characters will use the L2 button for other uses

[sterile scarab]

lol i thought it was some useful mechanic

[subtle oyster]

MK went through a 3D era and has stance switch and they just kept it in for funsies

[sterile scarab]

like made only certain moves available

[subtle oyster]

Some characters will require L2 inputs but the actual stance cancel doesn’t do shit lol

Johnny and Nitara are characters that use L2 off the top of my head

[sterile scarab]

well the game feels fun

[subtle oyster]

It’s a shitload of fun

[sterile scarab]

probably cause i understand how to play a fighting game now not like when i first picked up mk 11

[subtle oyster]

It’s my favorite MK and better than 11 for sure

[sterile scarab]

could not tell you what a special move was

[sterile scarab]

me and my dad played that for fun but he liked it cause it had rambo and he thought he was cool

[subtle oyster]

That’s cool you played that with your dad haha

I kinda liked the 80’s action theme

[sterile scarab]

i don't know if i wanna play omni man, homelander, and peacemaker

two of them are kind of similar

[subtle oyster]

I’m excited for Omni Man. He looks insanely good in a realistic art style

John Cena looks real lol

[sterile scarab]

did you see that thing where they wanted john wick

lol

[subtle oyster]

Yeah he would be perfect for MK too

He’s been requested heavily but they can’t always get the IP

[remote mountain]

I think they wanted Keanu Reeves for Kenshi instead of the actual character iirc

they wanted the entire cast to be different celebrities

[subtle oyster]

That was an idea Ed Boon wanted also

[sterile scarab]

i don't know if i like megan fox

[subtle oyster]

But they wanted John Wick

[subtle oyster]

She sucks as a VA really really bad

[remote mountain]

I dont think anyone really prefers it tbh

its just out of place compared to all the other VAs

[sterile scarab]

i didn't think she was that good in transformers or teenage mutant ninja turtles

[subtle oyster]

All the other VA’s did a wonderful job

I lol’d when I first heard her in the story

[sterile scarab]

i thought it was a weird choice

she just seems kind of calm

[subtle oyster]

I mean Megan Fox can only play Megan Fox in actual movies and is always monotoned so it was a terrible choice for that

It was just hype at first cause people think she’s hot

And Nitara looks good tbf

Just doesn’t sound good

[sterile scarab]

idk, i didn't wanna be mean and be like people only like her because shes hot

but i don't remember her doing anything else in the movies she was in

[subtle oyster]

That’s literally all she does in movies is he hot

Like transformers her role was to just be hot

[sterile scarab]

she was kind of a bad april

i didn't really remember her a lot in those movies

reptile is fun

i like forceball

[subtle oyster]

Forceball is insane you can spam those puppies

[sterile scarab]

is acid spit good?

i haven't seen anyone use it

is it for restand combos or whatever its called

[subtle oyster]

I’m not sure tbh

Liu Kang can combo off throws haha

[remote mountain]

why cant i bind a button to reset in practice mode on controller? the option disappears entirely so i have to do it on my keyboard every time if i want to reset

[subtle oyster]

I have no idea you should be able to

[remote mountain]

left is keyboard right is controller

[subtle oyster]

Try the big middle button on the PS controller I don’t know the name of it

[remote mountain]

im on stick unfortunatelyt

[subtle oyster]

Well shit

[remote mountain]

I pressed every button on it too lmao

the only way i can reset is my keyboard

its annoying but its not too bad atleast

[subtle oyster]

I have no idea tbh I’ve never played stick

MK is usually optimized for pad

[remote mountain]

true, ill see if theres any other players who play on stick and see what they do

[sterile scarab]

theres definitly someone here who plays on stick

or you could just go to some mk server and ask

[remote mountain]

fucking finally able to do jab jab BF3 cancel with smoke in the corner holy shit

yea ill prob have to ask to see lmao

[remote mountain]

ive seen the light

Reptile is fucking sick

[subtle oyster]

Reptile is definitely fucking sick

[vague creek]

Nooo

[subtle oyster]

This should frame trap shao but it doesn’t

He’s still viable I think tho. And this may just be a terrible matchup but ice clone ain’t what it used to be

It also lasts less seconds than a virgin on Prom night

@vague creek

They will have a balance patch tho

Honestly you might like Reptile

[vague creek]

Can you block in the air in this game?

[subtle oyster]

No which is good

I actually have a recommendation for you, check this out

If you want to have a shield while you throw projectiles

Use sub zero as kameo and try out reptile

@vague creek

You can use someone like reptile with the sub zero kameo. If you pop the sub zero kameo, you will become projectile invulnerable as shown. Reptiles projectiles also pop up for combo so you can win a zoning war and get good damage on it.

Idk what the optimal combo off a raw reptile force ball is but that did 23%

You can use that kameo with anyone in the kast so if Sub zero main isn’t for you then the sub zero kameo may be what you need!

[remote mountain]

does anyone else have to prepare shaders after every launch too?

it only takes like 30 seconds but its still annoying

[subtle oyster]

I thought it was only supposed to be after the first launch

[remote mountain]

its been my 3rd time launching it and it happened

[subtle oyster]

We might be the only PC players on here and unfortunately I haven’t been able to play on that port

Interesting

[remote mountain]

RIP lmao

do you also main reptile?

[subtle oyster]

I main Johnny and have a pocket Ashrah, Li Mei, and Liu Kang

But I’ve labbed reptile a lil bit

[remote mountain]

ahh ok i saw the reptile combo and thought u played him

do u also struggle with the aerial combo into air special?

the 233 one

[subtle oyster]

For Reptile?

[remote mountain]

yea

[subtle oyster]

I haven’t tried it but if you give me the notation I can give it a shot

[remote mountain]

B3 1 > Forceball (fast) > 4 > Forceball > jump 233 > DB4

fast forceball and neutral forceball can be alternated

[subtle oyster]

Let me give it a shot

I’m pretty drunk rn so I may not be able to get it

[remote mountain]

all g, you can just do 23 > jump 233 DB4

all im struggling with is the 233 into DB4 air combo

I cant get the special to come oiut

[subtle oyster]

You may not be able to do it, I couldn’t get Li Mei’s air 1-3-4 into DB3

I’ll try it tho

[remote mountain]

Its possible cause ive done it once, i also learned the combo from a vid posted a couple hours today so ik its possible in the current patch atleast

[subtle oyster]

I just got it

[remote mountain]

LMAO fuck

are you delaying the air special or are you buffering it during the 233

[subtle oyster]

I do the regular forceball first

Then the fast forceball after that

When you do air strings into specials do them as fast as possible

Do 233db4 as fast as you can I think

[remote mountain]

I can do up to the 233 part but the last special is the only thing i cant do for somereason

ok ill try

[subtle oyster]

Yeah you wanna mash 2-3-3 DB4 as fast as you can. Don’t wait for the animation at all

[remote mountain]

ah ok i got it now

yea my inputs were just sloppy as fuck

[subtle oyster]

Let’s goo

[remote mountain]

my first optimal combo learned lmao

its gonna be a while for me to hop online, i got so much shit to lab i havent even touched kameos with this chara

[subtle oyster]

It’s all good take your time. I spend a lot of my time labbing anyways

If I can get the PC port working we can play some online before you play ranked

[remote mountain]

fs lmk ill be down. Hopefully by tmmrw I can get a basic grasp of the chara. Im just glad to have found a chara I enjoy and got a core combo down for the first day

[subtle oyster]

It will prob be a bit before the PC port gets fixed for me so take your time. We can go into online training mode too

[remote mountain]

no worries and sounds good

[subtle oyster]

Cool cause I wanna get reps in with my alt characters and I’ll give notes

[gritty marlin]

Being real I been traveling since the game came out lol. I've barely played and the only "full" day I had, I used to beat story mode to get my character Havik. But I have labbed a little just to get a feel for the system and movement. Don't worry, my brain has been working

[vague creek]

He's up there in my main list

So far it's the three ninjas

Blue, Red, and Green

I generally start with easy characters before I do anything impressive

[subtle oyster]

Ermac is the red ninja🤔

[vague creek]

Oh yellow then

[subtle oyster]

Scorpion is dope I think

[subtle oyster]

Stay safe friend. Enjoy your travels!

[gritty marlin]

Thanks! I'm so tired 😭😭😭 after this week I'm not going anywhere for like the next two years

Traveled a lot within the past month

[subtle oyster]

Where to?

[gritty marlin]

Vegas, Maryland, South Florida

[kindred osprey]

Rooflemonger made a beginner guide
I feel like I understand a bit better the game

[kindred osprey]

I'll DM
Lmao

[wind hedge]

I have beaten the story and I guess now it's time to figure out how to play Johnny Cage.

So wish me luck on my MK journey

[wind hedge]

First game of ranked man, this shit hard

[subtle oyster]

I can teach you how to play Johnny. I been dominating in ranked with him

[wind hedge]

I think I gotta learn MK first I don't have any CRAZY 40% combos or anything but I have some stuff

[subtle oyster]

I’d be happy to go into online practice mode and teach you things whenever

Whether it be combos or pressure

[wind hedge]

Wow whatever this game is dick.

I've been winning this whole time. Then he gets one immediately fatality

But I did win my first set and it was a mirror match

Yeah I appreciate any help I can get

[subtle oyster]

Let’s gooo nice

Winning the mirror always feels good

[wind hedge]

It's crazy since I'm about to lose one

I know I'm gonna lose every games against people who can play MK

Also, side note. This is the first time I've started a fighting game and got teabagged my 3rd game

So am I too assume this a toxic game like that?

[subtle oyster]

MK11 was toxic but I haven’t been teebagged yet

[wind hedge]

I just gotta know where to put my expectations for games

[kindred osprey]

MK1 is my first MK ever since MK9
Maybe you want some games?

[tough rock]

Tweedy's first tier list

[tough rock]

[kindred osprey]

I'm not home yet
Lmao

[tough rock]

Neither am I

[kindred osprey]

Waiting for the bus...
I'll be on in like
1h30min

I need to have lunch too
Lol

[tough rock]

Should he home in like 3 hours. Maybe 4 depending on if I have to get my stepson

[kindred osprey]

Cool
I'll be there if you want

[remote mountain]

interesting somicfox puts mileena in top 5 while here shes bottom 3

[kindred osprey]

She's "Not Sure" there

I think Mileena is strong

[tough rock]

Tweedy hard downplayed Geras in his video. Its possible he may have done the same to Mileena. I'd have to watch again

[wind hedge]

Maybe tomorrow if you're available

[remote mountain]

oh shit i cant read lmao

[tough rock]

I don't blame you lol. That video isn't zoomed in at all

[kindred osprey]

I ammmmmm
Hopefully

[remote mountain]

and damn that means another one of my mains are bottom 5 like usual

ive kept the streak going for years now

[kindred osprey]

I'm maining Mileena and Reptile
That's for sure now
General Shao also seems pretty cool, but...
Too complicated

[remote mountain]

tbh reptile doesnt even feel weak at all, i think the game is balanced really well

[remote mountain]

Reptile is so fucking fun lmao

[kindred osprey]

Exactly
I can agree

[remote mountain]

Idk what Kameo to use on him yet tho, i might be basic and run Sareena or try Scorpion kameo

I dont really care for the invis setups he gets from it tho, they seem pretty useless

[kindred osprey]

I have no idea either
I've been using Frost lately

Kinda wanna try Kung Lao kameo
But Haven't unlocked him yet

[remote mountain]

ill just keep running sareena till they nerf it

[kindred osprey]

LMAO
Cool, I like her quite a lot too

[remote mountain]

gives me full screen projectile, can interrupt enemies if im in a combo and the projectile comes back, and free dmg obviously

[tough rock]

I'm self imposing myself to not run Sareena so I can try out the other kameos

[fiery thistle]

Is she that good?

[remote mountain]

100% the best kameo across the board

[fiery thistle]

Fuckin hell

[remote mountain]

there is no character that doesnt benefit from using sareena

[tough rock]

Full screen mid projectiles and can give you a full combo on anything

Can also drain your super meter but literally no one uses that

[remote mountain]

theres kameos for specific charas combos but there is no kameo who is as consistent than Sareena

[fiery thistle]

Yeah I've seen kenshi+frost

[kindred osprey]

Wait
Doesn't that literally prevent Breakers if done mid combo?

[fiery thistle]

Seems really strong for a basic 21 hit confirm

[remote mountain]

theres some creative ones like scorp cyrax or baraka cyrax

[tough rock]

I don't think it does

[subtle oyster]

Yeah but you’ll gain it back soon after he continues to beat the shit out of you. Won’t take long tbh

[remote mountain]

sektor is also used to get strong oki and force blocking which is really good for charas like smoke

[kindred osprey]

Ah
Makes sense
I hate breakers tbh
Lmao

[subtle oyster]

If you sit in the Sareena thing for max time you might almost lose one bar

[kindred osprey]

I practiced my big combo
I WANNA DO MY BIG COMBO

[remote mountain]

i dont know any meter burn combos for reptile tbh

it feels like he doesnt have the best uses for it

[tough rock]

Big kombo goes brr

[subtle oyster]

Probably don’t need them for him

[remote mountain]

its mainly to increase dmg or gain armor

[subtle oyster]

Yeah use it for armor

[kindred osprey]

Me neither
I do breakers with his meter because I don't have a combo that actually uses it

[subtle oyster]

Johnny is so meter intensive smh

[remote mountain]

ik his forceball ex counts as a different forceball for juggling

but i dont think it gains access to 3 forceball combos cuz of gravity at that point

[kindred osprey]

Right...
Smt to test tho

I might lab him more today

[remote mountain]

i was really interested in johnny for his parry and fatal blow parry but i hated how reliant on meter he was and the hype meter lmao

[subtle oyster]

You don’t need to worry about hype meter

[remote mountain]

i hate installs where i have to make the most of it or else im back go being weak

[subtle oyster]

He doesn’t even need it

[wind hedge]

My ass is still learning but am also trying to reach the level 20 Kameo

So I am in Kombat League

[kindred osprey]

Nah
I want to do 3 nut crackers in a row
Otherwise I won't feel like I won

[remote mountain]

ill have to look at some vids abt johnny later then

what does levelling ur charas do in mk?

is it actually imoortant?

[subtle oyster]

For style yeah but getting the fun he doesn’t need it

[subtle oyster]

Unlocks skins and brutalities and a fatality

[remote mountain]

nvm then lmao

[subtle oyster]

You’re not gonna get an advantage in the match or anything

[remote mountain]

kameos have cosmetics too?

[kindred osprey]

Yeah, I was gonna ask
How do we unlock skins?
Just that and the store?

[tough rock]

#1109235628031348756 message

[kindred osprey]

No Krypt

[tough rock]

Sareena gives literally anyone 50% combos

[kindred osprey]

Man, no Krypt REALLY got me surprised

[subtle oyster]

A wild 97 Kenshi appeared

Level 3 Johnny I choose you

That would be some shit

[remote mountain]

i remember being in 6th grade going thru the krypt and being scared shitless

im kinda glad theres no krypt lmao

[kindred osprey]

YES
I loved Deception's Krypt

MK9's was great too

[subtle oyster]

This is the most thriving I’ve ever seen this channel. Makes me happy😢

@tough rock we done well brother

[kindred osprey]

I am happy to be part of it

[subtle oyster]

I gotta learn Baraka bro he looks busted

[fiery thistle]

Go do invasions! You get level 30 just from completing it + some skins

[subtle oyster]

Yeah you level up faster from invasions than online I believe

I’m still rank 24ish I think

[remote mountain]

barakas combos felt super easy in the story mode so i also will prob learn him eventually lmao

i loved him in 11

[subtle oyster]

I felt the same way

His buttons have great range and his staggers are nuts

[tough rock]

All part of my master plan

[subtle oyster]

There are other champions we must gather

[tough rock]

[subtle oyster]

Baraka casually does 50% combos like what the fuck

[tough rock]

Go find Cole Young

[subtle oyster]

Id take Geras or Jade before him

[tough rock]

[subtle oyster]

It’s Cole fucking young don’t act surprised

Db3 amp special into plot armor

Back forward 1 more plot armor

He doesn’t even count

[kindred osprey]

I didn't even watch the movie

[tough rock]

EX DF2 into unblockable Fatal Blow

[subtle oyster]

Don’t

[kindred osprey]

I won't
Lmao

[subtle oyster]

Watch the animated ones

[kindred osprey]

No Mileena, no me

[tough rock]

Hold on a minute there playa

[subtle oyster]

The animated ones are great. This last turd they made ain’t it

We’ll just all forget it and go along like nothing happened

[tough rock]

Joe Taslim and Hiroyuki Sanada made that 2021 movie

And Josh Lawson

[subtle oyster]

Kano carried that shit

[tough rock]

Literally had a kano variation named get me a F'N EGG ROLL that I used only against Lao

[subtle oyster]

That’s badass

Wait hold the fuck on

[subtle oyster]

How the fuck is scorpion in top tier

Tweedy is a dummy

Who is third? Havik?

[remote mountain]

baraka

[subtle oyster]

Oh thank you

Scorpion ain’t S tier

He can 2 stagger into 2-1 and whiff punish

Can also chip damage a lot with cyrax I guess but still

[remote mountain]

From what I saw he lacked a lot of dmg from his overheads and lows

he barely gets rewarded

[subtle oyster]

I didn’t even know he had overheads

[remote mountain]

its finishers to his strings really

nothing he gets any combos out of

[subtle oyster]

Ohh yeah his 122

Or 112

His 2-1 string is great, other than that

He’s a character where you gotta outplay your opponent. He has the tools to do so but he’s not like the others in that category who can maul mfers

[remote mountain]

yea ig they really vlaue his big buttons. He does get big reward if he does manage to get a hit tho. Hook is a great meterless combo extender. His air routes are strong with EX teleport, and a variety of kameos work to increase dmg and loop air shit

hes a character that doesnt need sareena at all

he has a lot of choices

[subtle oyster]

He’s like how he’s always designed. He hits like a fucking truck but is unsafe

You need to whiff punish and make reads on projectiles with him

It’s not like Kenshi where you get bullshit clone, Baraka’s buttons+damage, Raiden, or Johnny’s pressure

Unless there’s shit with a kameo I’m missing

[remote mountain]

true, i wnna learn scorpion but i havent seem a gameplan that I like from pro players. Ik theyre still figuring out the chara but the chip dmg players seem really boring to me lmao

[remote mountain]

the Cyrax kameo is for pressure and chip dmg since he has a hard time opening up the opponent anyways and the Sektor kameo is used for pressure from teleports and hooks i think

[subtle oyster]

The best scorpion player is AVirk but he doesn’t really stream. He played Scorpion in MK11 and used Scorpion with the scorpion kameo in a recent tournament

[remote mountain]

oh yea i saw some of the scorp air loops he gets from that kameo, it looks pretty fun

[subtle oyster]

I’d probably use cyrax with him

[remote mountain]

Ill prob go scorp with him, I like the kameos that extend combos so far. The kameos that help in neutral or are for specific setups like getting invis with reptile seem weak to me

[subtle oyster]

Honestly the chip damage with cyrax combo might be why he’s rated so high

I want kameos for pressure and safety

Depends on the character tho

The more times you can retake your turn in this game is huge

[remote mountain]

I usually make sure the chara i pick has good pressure and is safe so I dont always have to burn meter or risk it all. Thats why smoke appealed to me at first

that chara is way too safe on all shit shit

and I like Reptiles B31 for a similar reason

a safe low that leads into great reward

[subtle oyster]

With Johnny I try to stay plus on block all the time lol. But he’s a demon

Raiden also gets crazy chip damage with cyrax

[remote mountain]

oh yea i need to revisit raiden too lmao

i liked how he played in the story

[subtle oyster]

Honestly you will go a good ways in MK if you just stay safe on block I’m telling you

[remote mountain]

true, i also wanted to try those charas who can punish more moves on block compared to the rest of the cast

I think its liu kang, kung lao and Li mei

[subtle oyster]

Everyone can punish the same. Universal punish is Jab string into launcher

Everyone’s jab is 7 frames

[remote mountain]

Kung lao and liu kang have a 6f normal

ik kung laos has a full combo from it too

its pretty disgusting

and Li mei has a 7f special so it can do a reversal special and punish

[subtle oyster]

I don’t believe that

[subtle oyster]

I believe that I labbed that

[remote mountain]

go to kung lao and check out his B1

Roofls vid also showcases it

[subtle oyster]

If it’s 5 frames I’m taking a shot of vodka

I’m bout to check

[remote mountain]

sorry i edited the msg its 6

lmao

[subtle oyster]

I haven’t slept at all I’m kinda concerned

[remote mountain]

theres kung laos

[subtle oyster]

That’s the first time I’ve seen that

[remote mountain]

Liu kangs standard jab is the 6f

Shaolin privilege

we are lucky that raiden didnt get that treatment

[subtle oyster]

I’m trying to think of what to do with that. Other than punish all the -7 shit lol

Fast mids are gold in MK

[remote mountain]

they all get full combos after it, its just a good move in general

[subtle oyster]

Btw

[remote mountain]

makes sense, theyre both highs tho

[subtle oyster]

Jab is always a great move

A 6 framer should be a high. A 6 frame mid would break the fucking game

[remote mountain]

which sucks since they cant punish crouching jabs even though their -8

[subtle oyster]

Johnny has a 9 frame mid and it’s literally his entire playstyle

[remote mountain]

thats disgusting lmao

[subtle oyster]

He will always be good as long as he has that mid but if they nerf the mid he’s bottom tier trash

There’s no in between

The majority of his playstyle is frame trapping his plus frames into it. He is the only character in the game who can perfectly frame trap his plus frames into a mid

Everyone else is susceptible to down 1 pokes

[remote mountain]

I might actually have to try to learn johnny one day

but I should prob stick with 1 chara for now lmao

Man I love getting full combos off a safe, advancing low that connects 2 steps from round start

[subtle oyster]

I’ll teach. He’s simple to learn outside of hype

[subtle oyster]

That low is so goated

In your offense

I recommend doing 1-1 stagger into back dash into that string