Try it on chroma
#Warframe
safe gull
1000% base damage with 500% blast damage fucks EVERYTHING up
I don't care who the Orokin send I am not using Vex armor
zenith forge
They won't let chroma have multiplicative damage so I make my own
Also yeah gauss kicks all the ass
quick stag
zenith forge
quick stag
railjack is a decent endo farm
quick stag
WOW
zenith forge
safe gull
"red crit merchant"
Wow baruuk talking mad shit for someone who has to stack his passive before being playable
Never fucking mind what was the vision with Nidus&Baruuk beefing with Gauss they are not making it out of there alive
zenith forge
"red crit merchant"
Wow baruuk talking mad shit for someone who has to stack his...
"it has begun"
"He rolled a jackpot, a unaware heavy gunner with a 300 round mag shooting fruitlessly at him with 1 active, so for the next four minutes and 11 seconds he is effectively invincible and one of the strongest frames in the game. I could just wait out the the duration with the reverse shield-generation technique"
"-but that's what a loser would think!"
-Volt, possibly
calm fiber
oh HYPE
quick stag
goodness gracious
quick stag
Harrow deluxe is on sale
zenith forge
For the next thirty minutes
zenith forge
I want the chroma acollade gylph
Unfortunately that means dealing with prime captain vor bullshit
So suggestions?
I know about the fact you can cheat basically and just look up the code but still
Low-key I think that genuinely helps it a shitton
Cause 60 eyes/hacking extra terminals basically doubles the length of time on the runback for the fragmented and tank super bosses
Apparently peringale prime specifically with primary acuity bypasses damage attenuation or smth??
Or jusy normie peringale
quick stag
i dont know
quick stag
i dont have any acollades
calm fiber
No idea what this is you speak of
zenith forge
What da hell
quick stag
What da hell
guranteed red tau shard
zenith forge
Yeah I see that but like the gif under it 
I need a build specific to captain superboss prolly
quick stag
Yeah I see that but like the gif under it <:SOLKEKW:917214151217131530>
what ever do you mean?
:clueless:
tranquil rain
Waldis, I will beat you with hammers
quick stag
quick stag
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Accolade_Glyphs
@zenith forge check comments there
some good advice
zenith forge
I'm just gonna slap all my survivability mods on my chroma and hope for the best
quick stag
zenith forge
Be me
Fight ex vor
Build setup to not le die on chroma
Do fight
It go well : )
Second half starts
He summon orb
Orb insta kill me
: (
zenith forge
Yeah everything else was mitigated by shield gating pretty well
The problem is RN my setup has no inherent armor
I'm relying on cold ward plus primary bulwark for base DMG
So I have armor*
Until I get hit
Then he nullifies my armor
quick stag
I'm relying on cold ward plus primary bulwark for base DMG
cant you just take laetum?
laetum usually shreds
zenith forge
Leaving this here to I can see it easier
zenith forge
Killed his ass
Second try
Acuity is NOT good for that last phase
Worth it purely to speed up that first 75% tho
Low-key kinda sucks that in order to beat it you basically need to build for oops all defense and not at all into the actual frames kits themselves
But I kinda see the vision of having a slugfest with the boss
I killed him fast enough cascading fragmentation didn't proc even so the fight itself was under 9 minutes
zenith forge
Y'know what would unironically fix enemy DMG?
If it was percentile based
Like if a set attack didn't do damage per hit per say, but did like, a set percent
That'd simultaneously solve the "getting one shot at a certain point unless you stack a unlimited amount of DR" while also making it so bosses can like, actually threaten you
Maybe do something like make a attack do a set amount of DMG that ignores DR, and a set amount of damage that scales off a percentage of your HP
Or idk make it so each part of damage is affected by a set thing
Maybe make it so DR affects the half of damage that is percentiles based, then make it so you also want more max HP to mitigate raw/pure damage
Cause low-key I won't lie, having to actually move and be wary of vors attacks in the ex fight was neat
But also like needing to stack literally all the survivability reduction mods, and basically being rendered unable to use abilities kinda sucks ass
Like surely there's some in-between to the difficulty curve that's reasonable??
If you were to balance bosses (and for that matter) enemy attacks in general around the idea of a mix of percentages and fixed damage that bypasses your standard dr that could make fights generally more interesting without having them outright one shot a player willy nilly, but also still reward you for building for survivability
Like let's say the average WF stat line comes out to around
300 base HP
300 base shield
300 base armor (clean 50% armor DR)
Your warframes total HP (not EHP, purely based on hit points) is 600 with a even split of shields and health
Let's say for reference a hypothetical attack that does 10 fixed DMG, and 2.5 percentage based DMG, that means with the current setup your frame would take about 10+2.5×6=25 DMG per hit for this hypothetical new method pre Dr, post dr for both it would come out to be 10+2.5×6÷2 because both shields and Hp for this hypothetical frame give 50% Dr
Course that's before modding so like if you add a steel fiber you split the difference on the % based DMG again by going from 50% Dr to 2/3rds Dr but the idea is there
And hypothetically de could tweak the values as needed on any given attack, but I think having a system like that in place would help prevent some of the high level "oops I took a stray random hit now I'm suddenly dead"
It would give you actual better returns for modding for survivability outside of shields because your stats are more relevant to not dying
Only problem is if it goes by overall hp itself for the percentages catalyzing shields/arcane persistence might unintentionally get better because by dropping your stats the % based damage becomes lessened by association, but at the same time I don't think that'd be a big issue? Cause frames mainly run catalyzing when they don't have enough shield to properly mod for shield gating to gain a bigger window, and/or odds are said frame isn't being modded for much survivability outside of that one mod (cause it and brief respite and the augur set are best buds)
And as for persistence, yeah honestly good on it, it deserves a W after getting screwed as hard as it did
Other ways you could get similar results would be to have damage be a percentile based on your unmodded stats (so 10% of a 600 HP pool would be 60 DMG, always, ever if you mod for extra HP, but then still have the damage reduced by armor but idk I'm writing this up on the verge of passing out
To sleep
quick stag
Iam not gonna pretend i understood everything you said but i can agree that warframe should change to % base damage and health
zenith forge
Iam not gonna pretend i understood everything you said but i can agree that warf...
Oh also idk if you saw but I got janus vor
zenith forge
The thousand yard chroma stare glyph is mine lmao
Low-key it's not even really that hard if you build a hyper specific defense build
quick stag
probably
quick stag
quick stag
quick stag
double affinity weekend
@zenith forge @tranquil rain @safe gull @calm fiber
best thing i have gotten from baro's gacha
tranquil rain
Neat
zenith forge
<@434849685409234944> <@258762305821474836> <@243073796615962625> <@215618938573...
Wtf wasn't he just here last week??
quick stag
yeah
calm fiber
best thing i have gotten from baro's gacha
Yo nice!!!
quick stag
spice yoke
safe gull
safe gull
calm fiber
Dude is yolked
zenith forge
I finally got the legendary racist riven
Almost a 1.5x multiplier to all main factions
On the zenistar
One downside
It drops my swing speed like a MFer
quick stag
damn
zenith forge
Prolly gonna re roll it
Got the screenshot tho so that's fun
I wish to not be held down by my racism
calm fiber
I wish to not be held down by my racism
Absolutely insane quote
quick stag
zenith forge
Absolutely insane quote
I phrased it like that for the bit 
quick stag
finally
an easy ETA
Lethargic Shields
Framecurse Syndrome
Permanent Injury
Secondary Wounds
Overguard be upon ye
calm fiber
holy christ
quick stag
*holy christ*
thats eta and eda together
calm fiber
OH
oh that makes WAY more sense
how do you display what you got across multiple missions???
quick stag
usually i do them both in a row
so when iam done with eda i press P and for some reason it displays both archemidia rewards
quick stag
quick stag
Yeep
Pablo says as a slight spoiler to friday they are buffing an ability that they previously were not able to buff due to them "not having the tech" at the time the warframe was released. To me it seems this likely is going to be for an "older" warframe.
okey how can we make this about chroma?
zenith forge
All I want out of the chroma rework
Let him keep the double jump passive
Double bullet jumps are so good
quick stag
double jump with somethign on top of it
zenith forge
Lowkey
Just, smush all the base elements together tbh
Making 1 toxic lash but slightly weaker with more simultaneous procs sounds cool, and having 2 get all the buffs would be nice, even if they had to tune em down individually
I feel like lavos kinda does the whole onesie twosie elemental switching gimmick better
quick stag
yeah
zenith forge
Kinda doubt we'd see the chroma rework next patch because they tend to release those with skins
quick stag
unless
zenith forge
And I don't think we're getting three dx skins in one patch lmao
quick stag
🥀
zenith forge
Low-key I hope the Tigris incarnon comes with another incarnon set
Mainly war
I want a war incarnon so badly
quick stag
what do you want it to do?
quick stag
also
i regret selling my bo riven
should have rolled for funny range
quick stag
I want that <:SOLKEKW:917214151217131530>
zenith forge
Literally the incarnon could do fuck all for stat increases j just want pew pew blade beams
It'd be cool
quick stag
True!
personally i dont have an incarnon wishlist
ambassador perhaps
cuz the "buffs" we got were a joke
zenith forge
Lowkey
I'm surprised we've never got a burst weapon that when you hold down the trigger charges up a shot
zenith forge
Vandal and not tenet is diabolical
quick stag
i know right?
i highly doubt that adding a tennet/kuva/coda weapon is that hard
zenith forge
Recently they've been going onsite twosie with em tho
Like last patch added the quanta/saw/bubonico
So they'd prolly wait till the next kuva/coda weapon idea comes around
zenith forge
I mean yeah
But like they like to release em in bunches
So they'd have to figure out what grinder/infested weapon needs a buff
Which like
Cmon
Coda phaage is RIGHT THERE
zenith forge
I'm pissed the fucken quanta got one
It don't need it !
Coda muralist quanta when de???
quick stag
lmao
quick stag
Effigy becomes razor wing but good
maybe its ivara's bow?
tho i cant think of the tech they would lack
calm fiber
okey how can we make this about chroma?
did they not say at one point they wanted chroma to be able to fly but weren't able to make it happen so they gave him double bullet jump instead
and they said they did a TON of work with uriel to make his flight work, right?
zenith forge
Please de if you rework chroma let him keep double bullet jump please
quick stag
Please de if you rework chroma let him keep double bullet jump please <:SOLKEKW:...
what is flight if not extension of double jumping
60% coda hema in the shop
calm fiber
oh hype
I should pay more attention to the coda weapons tbh
I think the fact you can progress those while doing the weekly calendar stuff is just so incredibly pleasant
tickles my brain in the good "OPTIMIZATION!!!!!" way
quick stag
safe gull
idea is good but what the fuck are those numbers
Does blud think he's lavos with all those damage numbers?
zenith forge
https://www.rxddit.com/r/Warframe/s/DNIVXdzuLV
Low-key sounds neat
tranquil rain
Ah hell nah, wtf is that Mesa art
zenith forge
I see ballas armed the gunslinger frame with ballistics as well
zenith forge
Honestly that reads to me like someone who sees damage numbers on screen and balances the augment like that
Like playing WF if you're hitting 1 Mil+ DMG you look and think 30k isn't alot
quick stag
Honestly that reads to me like someone who sees damage numbers on screen and bal...
reads to me like someone who doesnt get how qorvex works
he nukes only when the whole lobby is in one spot
and i think thta should reflect to his whole kit as well and not only 4
quick stag
yeah but thats not how his 4 works
and i dont like that
zenith forge
I think giving him a big burst cash out damage opportunity to kill one or two strong enemies in a non target rich environment isn't a bad idea
quick stag
health tanking with protea
quick stag
I think giving him a big burst cash out damage opportunity to kill one or two st...
thats what the weapons are for
zenith forge
yeah but thats not how his 4 works
and i dont like that
???
That's exactly how 4 works tho
You group enemies together near a pillar, spray em all with demon core unibeam and they all chain irritate eacj other and go boom
quick stag
yeah they chain irratate together
the way this augment looks like is that qorvex jsut nukes with his 2 when he has stacks
zenith forge
yeah they chain irratate together
the way this augment looks like is that qorve...
The augment idea feels like garudas bloodball to me which I don't think is inherently a bad augment idea
It gives you a tangible reward for killing hordes with the 4 by giving you a non enemy density scaling nuke
Cause each kill with rad builds le nuke
quick stag
personally i dont think he needs it
and adding that would be opposite of why i play him
zenith forge
I think it'd be interesting to change it to be so recasting guard causes the nuke, but it also makes it so your chances to gain extra stacks is guaranteed for every rad kill
Cause currently you can just, spam it to max it out
quick stag
ignore when i said that its a good idea 10 min earlier
augment is good but i dont want it on qorvex
quick stag
Cause currently you can just, spam it to max it out
True!
zenith forge
personally i dont think he needs it
and adding that would be opposite of why i p...
Personally I think those kind of augments are the best kinds of augments because it's a augment that's playstyle depending
zenith forge
I feel like there's a good few augments that just straight up are either QoL that should be base kit, or its a augment that's far in a way so much better than the base version why the hell WOULDNT you use it
quick stag
from the same reddit post
zenith forge
Like elemental infuse augments are the peak iteration of that idea of build variety
Low-key I think piercing roar is decentish now
Recastable roar with extra range and puncture procs is a neat idea
quick stag
Recastable roar with extra range and puncture procs is a neat idea
Devstream this friday btw
@calm fiber @tranquil rain @safe gull
I will be posting highlights here as usual
zenith forge
Low-key rhino got some good ass augments
Like 50% extra armor per enemy hit with charge
Detonating iron skin
Recastable roar that applies max puncture to nearby enemies (80% Dr and apparently a decent arcane avenger CC buff)
And big stompy that heals iron skin
zenith forge
Wait a second
Idk if I'm crazy but I feel like if you jumble the letters a bit it sounds like Ky kiske
Kill him
Kill him dead
zenith forge
Kill him dead and steal the drum mag double barrel shotgun
zenith forge
But if I DID have to kill him it would be incredibly easy
zenith forge
But if I DID have to kill him it would be incredibly easy
I’d brandish my stale baguette loaf at him and he'd be compelled to approach. “That’s very cool,” he’d say, confident in his superior strength and endurance from all the holy order training routine he maintains to this very day. He’d shower me with very interesting facts about French pastries and bread and hover just out of range of the blunt edge, waiting for me to exhaust myself. “But as it is stale bread, it’s very hard, you see, if anything it's best cut into crouto—” and then I’d blast him with the double barrel shotgun in my other hand, which he would not have noticed because the French cannot perceive firearms.
zenith forge
got the augment
now waht]
No idea lmao
quick stag
I’d brandish my stale baguette loaf at him and he'd be compelled to approach. “T...
Is shakespear really dead?
zenith forge
Bro really thought he was that one guy from jjk
Calliblack flash or something idk
quick stag
https://tenor.com/view/jjk-jjk-s2-jjk-season-2-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-sea...
todo goat
zenith forge
Indeed
Can't wait for the devstream
I just hope this next update is better than the last one we got
Y'know whatd be funny
If all bosses dropped a Steel essence if you fought em on steel path like the fragmented one does
Imagine unironically grinding Sargent cause that's 1 per min or so
Unironically id go fight the fragmented one more but grabbing all the eyes is too damn slow
Its the main reason I don't wanna try 60 eyes, spending 5-10 minutes just to reach him sounds silly
quick stag
yeah
zenith forge
I get they want the fight to be a secret thing you gotta unlock but I feel like the guilty or captain vor has the best one
Both the apex tank and fragmented one take annoyingly long to start
Low-key I hope they kinda drop the pre boss fight gimmick mission crap next update, especially if they're also adding a super boss
You reckon the next update will be a apostasy prologue/lotus eaters styled prelude quest to tau proper?
Honestly I could see the tau update having our hub in the wrecked tauron academy
Naaaaah thinking about it more I doubt that
Tau proper is prolly gonna be like the next old peace/1999 update releasing in the winter, prolly getting shown properly at tennocon this year
So a apostasy prologue Esque quest won't happen till fall at the earliest
Calling it rn we're getting nitokh as a Garuda protoframe in that Tau update as a NPC in the academy hub
I could see them doing Garuda/baruuk/hildryn proto frames to keep the fortuna trio together and also give them a funny dynamic of Garuda being this psycho orokin executor, meanwhile the baruuk protoframe is basically a therapist with hildryn as a body guard
But also shot in the dark I could see them doing a chroma protoframe there too, because I think there's some lore implications that the dragon pelt he wears was a former sentient dragon, so having a protoframe that leans into like a venom character angle would be funny (although they kinda already did that with flare and Lizzie)
calm fiber
host migration sent me into zariman without objective
Christ
A hell worse than the void itself
zenith forge
Man Friday can't get here enough
quick stag
Man Friday can't get here enough
its friday evening for me
so i have to wait whole day before it starts
zenith forge
Its like afternoon for me iirc
calm fiber
ffxiv showcase same day. awhile earlier tho
zenith forge
I'm amazed that's still going ngl
quick stag
ffxiv is like wow right?
zenith forge
Kinda?
I think
Its a mmo
My disdain for FFXIV is no fault of its own, rather the Mainline MH dev team are big FF fans and keep doing crossovers with them that I dislike because they play like MMO fights with 4 people
zenith forge
and have tank,healer and dps roles
Yeah I think
I say that cause whenever they do a Monster Hunter crossover they try and force you into those types of roles when it doesn't really gell well with the standard MH system
MMO raid mechanics not working well in MH is kind of indicative of why they wouldn't work in warframe
Cause inherently if you run a 4 player squad you're kinda tight on general roles
quick stag
Razor wing meets Uriel flight
i saw a guess that equinox with 2 moddable screens for each aspect
zenith forge
I could see that
But at the same time that doesn't really feel like a recent development enabling that
Cause that tech has been in the game technically since sevagoth
quick stag
id say thats the best guess so far
quick stag
and his technologically handicapped double jump
zenith forge
Soooo
zenith forge
and his technologically handicapped double jump
Well triple jump but yeah
Could banshee?
Cause iirc banshee is like, the frame to rework now iirc
Or maybe it'll be something out of left field like Loki
WOW
quick stag
yeah her "weakpoints" arent really weakpoints
zenith forge
L and k being next to each other on mobile is a deadly maneuver
Yeah that seems likely
I don't think equinox is gonna get a huge tune up tho because she can nuke good, she's just a bit more clunky than modern nukers
zenith forge
Exactly
Banshee/Loki/chroma need like actual reworks
And even then Loki is still good, it's just he got power crept hard
quick stag
True!
is it really just loki/banshee/equinox and chroma to rework?
and then mostly all frames would be decant?
okey
some would argue that ember needs another touchup
and ivara
zenith forge
Genuinely all I think Loki would need/want would be
Multiple decoys
Recastable invis
Hold version of switch teleport to swap to nearest aimed at clone, let you use it to empty teleport even, maybe (prolly limit bonuses gained from empties tho)
Let disarm defense strip enemies (mainly over guard, I think letting it 100% yoink enemy OG at base so you can steal eximuses guns would be cool)
zenith forge
okey
some would argue that ember needs another touchup
Ember got done dirty
They stole her world on fire nuke, and then gave it to a different frame lmao (temple)
quick stag
uriel?
zenith forge
Nah iirc it was closer to pyrotechnics
quick stag
i see
zenith forge
Honestly I'd love to see a Loki revamp where when you hit eximuses with your 4 you steal their eximus abilities as a one time cast (maybe you can like stock up a few and you use the most recent one on held cast)
Maybe make it so if you hold cast 1 you can infuse said eximus ability into all your decoys
quick stag
Honestly I'd love to see a Loki revamp where when you hit eximuses with your 4 y...
thats kinda fire
zenith forge
Making Loki uniquely well equipped to deal with over guard/eximus bullshit feels weirdly in character
Cast three decoys on defense objective
Yoink guardian/frost eximus
Profit
quick stag
Maybe make it so if you hold cast 1 you can infuse said eximus ability into all ...
and with teleport you can insantly switch with eximus and get its power
zenith forge
Yeyeyeyey
Switch teleport with a ally and they get the eximus ability buff that triggers automatically
Giving sayrn a toxin eximus aura would be so funny
And make it so hold casting invis lets you cycle the abilities you arcue
quick stag
Hellfire Hellfire
zenith forge
Yep
quick stag
yeah fuck him
zenith forge
He's fun tho, id play him more if he didn't have a step dash and charge inputs
quick stag
hundred billion beach balls
zenith forge
How?
zenith forge
Me hacking my friends ship to fly directly into the sun after I fill their orbiter with 100 million popcorn kernels and 20 gallons of oil
quick stag
calm fiber
My disdain for FFXIV is no fault of its own, rather the Mainline MH dev team are...
my disdain is from playing it
zenith forge
We have first hand hater (you) second hand hater (me), now all we need is someone who hates it just because it's popular and we can be the three musketeers of dunking on FFXIV
quick stag
thats me
dont have second or first hand experiance with ffxiv
wait
i do like this one clip of ffxiv
when she says
trulululu awawaa
zenith forge
Y'know what
Thinking about it I feel like superbosses would be a million times less frustrating if they only shut off certain abilities
Like let them have magnetic procs still to drain energy, but i limit the nullification to only abilities that traditionally are used to cheese survival
IE shit like Mesmer skin
Because like those abilities are like 95% of the reason why the bosses have nullification in the first place, cause if they didn't revenant could just tap 2 and win forever
Maybe make it so it clears all your accrued OG
I feel like nullifying cheese invuln abilities and yoinking OG on hit but letting other abilities ride would do wonders to make them infinitely more playable while also maintaining the "this is the hard content now"
Frames like chroma would actually be able to use their fucking mechanics
quick stag
I feel like nullifying cheese invuln abilities and yoinking OG on hit but lettin...
i thinm they should reduce their viability
like mesmer shield should be like 3 charges per cast
or less
put it on a cooldown
zenith forge
Low-key I feel like current revenant is the modern day wukong
Cause old wukong was only really good cause old defy was the immortality button
As long as it was active you legally couldn't die
calm fiber
"good" is a strong word for OG wukong's not-dying-ness lmao
zenith forge
"good" is a strong word for OG wukong's not-dying-ness lmao
Its all he did tho which was the funniest part
Which in hindsight is kinda how revenant is rn
Its weird that they look at defy and say "ah wukong can't have this" but revenant can have upwards of effectively 2+ minutes of straight invulnerability an that's ok???
calm fiber
I would not be surprised by an eventual revenant rework
In wukong's case they didn't rework him because defy was strong they reworked him because he was a mess
You don't need anything but mesmer skin, sure, but you aren't actively fucking yourself over using his 1 or 3
His 4 is ass but what else is new they hate channeled aoe ultimates
zenith forge
Imo they should revert the buff on Mesmer skin and be done with it, maybe give it duration scaling somehow too still
(For context launch Mesmer skin was ass because each charge of Mesmer skin had like, no invuln on it, so a heavy gunner could rip all your stacks off like instantly. But you had 100% Dr per hit. Making it scale off str and duration for total charge count would be interesting)
zenith forge
His 4 is ass but what else is new they hate channeled aoe ultimates
Really he doesn't need like a massive rework, moreso a slight touch up
calm fiber
Yeah more like oberon
zenith forge
Like if they made thralls only poppable by revenant abilities I think that'd help his identity a good bit, and making the results of popping them more notable would be good
calm fiber
I like that they've stopped adding abilities that are just objectively dog shit
Wisp and revenant 4 make me sad because they are so cool but well
zenith forge
Y'know what'd be fun
If revenant 4 hits a thrall if the thrall turns into like one of the later eidolons nuke
safe gull
Wisp and revenant 4 make me sad because they are so cool but well
Wdym Wisp 4 makes you sad that ability is fun as fuck to spam
That is IF you have the augment
zenith forge
Make it like reave where it does damage based on the thralls max hp
zenith forge
Wdym Wisp 4 makes you sad that ability is fun as fuck to spam
~~***That is IF yo...
It goes from worse quorvex 4 to better quorvex 1
safe gull
It goes from worse quorvex 4 to better quorvex 1
Does it apply corrosive and heat as well as radiation?
zenith forge
Nah but quorvex 4 scales DMG based on enemy density
safe gull
I don't care about the 4 I'm talking about 1
zenith forge
Oh yeah nah quorvex 1 is just a rad primer and slow tool
safe gull
Nah but quorvex 4 scales DMG based on enemy density
Also doesn't wisp's 3 also scale with enemy density?
zenith forge
And nuke tool if you hit it with four but that's different
zenith forge
Also doesn't wisp's 3 also scale with enemy density?
Breach surge? It's less scaling on enemy density and more "it turns your single target damage into damage that hits other assholes"
Which if combined with 4 augmented gives a similar buff
safe gull
Breach surge? It's less scaling on enemy density and more "it turns your single ...
So the more assholes the more damage?
so It scales with assholes?
zenith forge
So the more assholes the more damage?
so It scales with assholes?
Ig but the ramp up is more dedicated to single target DMG (cause iirc you have to kill asshole a to have spark fly and hit asshole B)
Whereas quorvex kinda just flashes the demon core at a group of unsuspecting fucks and they just kinda start to spontaneously explode each other violently
safe gull
Ig but the ramp up is more dedicated to single target DMG (cause iirc you have t...
Do you...?
zenith forge
I never get lucky ig
I've never seen the spark fly on non kill shot hit
Breach surge on quorvex is MAD funny tho
safe gull
Whereas quorvex kinda just flashes the demon core at a group of unsuspecting fuc...
I feel like comparing the two is kind of reductive at this point
safe gull
I like levitating myself
safe gull
I've never seen the spark fly on non kill shot hit <:SOLKEKW:917214151217131530...
Bro you put three cataclysmic gates on top of someone that's 6 instances of damage a second how low is your luck
zenith forge
Ah see there's my problem
I'm not playing wisp, I'm using breach surge on other frames
safe gull
You ought to believe in the heart of the cards more
zenith forge
You ought to believe in the heart of the cards more
safe gull
I'm not playing wisp, I'm using breach surge on other frames <:SOLKEKW:917214151...
If you are not stacking buffs with max ability strenght wisp+grimoire+roar what are you even doing?
zenith forge
The world's most fucked frost setup
safe gull
to me that's just frost setup
zenith forge
Frost passive aug gives 200% CC/CD on frozen enemies
Modded for max range, just enough STR to max armor strip with 4
Breach surge is like a guaranteed crit
You probably see where this is going
Having a random spark fly and tap someone for a shitton of DMG is really funny
safe gull
You probably see where this is going
Yes
We switch to lavos and stack catalyze
zenith forge
We have technology
Also have frost the augment for a billion OG
Might tweak the setup tho and use some archon str shards so I can dump a str mod for another augment
Namely freeze force
But then that means I'm dropping blue energy max shards
There's definitely a way to finagle it if just have to sit down and hash it out
safe gull
My dumbass ran this in a normal slot even if it can go into the exilius slot
zenith forge
Big chungus reservoir
safe gull
100%
zenith forge
Ideally I finagley frost setup to the point where I don't need to use arcane battery either cause that thing is not the best only using amars hatred for armor+power str
What's y'all's favorite exilus mods?
Personally I gotta say my top 3 are
Streamlined form (7 drain 30% slide, -30% friction)
Amars anguish (9 drain, 15% sprint and parkour speed)
Cunning drift (9 drain, 15 range, 30% slide, -15% friction)
Unironically I wish yellow shards had more schmovement options available, id take sprint speed/slide options as picks over either orb efficacy any day of the week
quick stag
Its weird that they look at defy and say "ah wukong can't have this" but revenan...
wasnt those 2 events like 5 years apart?
iirc rev was reworked to his current self
zenith forge
wasnt those 2 events like 5 years apart?
I don't think they were that far apart
zenith forge
Yeah
To be entirely honest the Mesmer skin getting a second of invuln buff is reasonable on paper
quick stag
To be entirely honest the Mesmer skin getting a second of invuln buff is reasona...
why
i didnt read las 50 messages
zenith forge
Cause y'know that'd suck to have all your defense yoinked away in 3 seconds to a machine gun would suck
quick stag
they should reduce charges fro 1 sec to like .5
zenith forge
The problem is making it a second scaling on duration and letting you combo that with charges scaling on str snowballs it hard
You get by default 6 charges with a second of invuln, an effective 6 seconds of invuln is for reference over twice as good as the best normal shield gate (2.5 seconds)
And that's before ANY modding
With modding assuming you aren't like terribly minmaxxing him but y'know you have some corrupted mods, you could comfortably hit 300% str and 200 duration
That's 18 charges, with a 2 second duration
That's 36 seconds of invuln, non min maxxed
Oh also with the aug your teammates get up to 5 charges
And you yourself basically get 3 extra charges
zenith forge
When dev stream
quick stag
3 h and 15 min
quick stag
https://tenor.com/view/thragg-invincible-invincible-edit-thraggit-gif-1240329762...
is this the invisible guy
quick stag
from what i have seen about the later seasons its pretty on point
zenith forge
Bruuuuuuuh
safe gull
God coda hema is soo good
zenith forge
Gotta love a gun that auto charges vex armor
quick stag
God coda hema is soo good
stream soon
@calm fiber devstream soon
belly of the beast opoeration
zenith forge
Ah good
A rerun of a actual good event
Tf is that tennocon fit
What even is that
Ephermera?
Neat
Looks cool
quick stag
Tf is that tennocon fit
hunhullus
zenith forge
Getting hunhulis accessories is cool
zenith forge
I was confused if it was a syndana
zenith forge
LETS FUCKING GO
What, I'm watching stream with no audio cause work
I can't hear them
quick stag
What, I'm watching stream with no audio cause work
Greatest of all time
zenith forge
Oh thank fuck
zenith forge
They saved it
zenith forge
I can play mesa heirloom and not be a degenerate
quick stag
zenith forge
She looks so much better with the poncho
quick stag
True
zenith forge
HAT
Hat sigma???
FUUUUUUUUUCK
I'm buying that shit
Limbo craft hat
Here I come
quick stag
hat hat
tranquil rain
quick stag
what the fuck am i watching
zenith forge
What the FUUUUUUUUCK
quick stag
garuda protoframe?
zenith forge
Oh you're ahead of me lol
quick stag
zenith forge
Jade shadows so good we got a sequel
quick stag
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SIRIUS AND ORION FROM ALTERNATE TIMELINE??!?!?!?
THEY HAVE DOEN IT AGAIN
zenith forge
SIRIUS AND ORION FROM ALTERNATE TIMELINE??!?!?!?
DE looked at DBZ and said "double the future trunks"
quick stag
song slaps
zenith forge
Actual biblical greed
Bro HER WHOLE BOOB IS OUT AND YOU WANT MORE?!?
quick stag
he is a certified gooner
zenith forge
So I'm confused that's the next update ye?
quick stag
yes
zenith forge
Bitchin
That's gonna be fucked rolling up to Sirius and Orion in a clone of their dead mom
zenith forge
Is the Garuda one nitokh
quick stag
no
zenith forge
FAAAAAH
quick stag
real
zenith forge
So are Orion and Sirius both gonna be new individual frames? Protoframes for other frames? Two protoframes for one new frame???
quick stag
i guess
tranquil rain
song slaps
Made by ERRA so you know it's goated
quick stag
who?
zenith forge
The guy in Warframe??
quick stag
the guy from archon huntr?
zenith forge
Yo dab me up homie
quick stag
was erra lotus brother or the creature inhabiting her brother?
zenith forge
But it's also kinda implied erra is still conscious to a degree???
Not seeing a lotta gameplay wazzis?
quick stag
i have no clue what going on in archon hunt sideplot
zenith forge
I kinda hope this next update ties into that kinda
quick stag
i doubt it
zenith forge
Yeah if anything that's prolly a tau thing
Cause we saw prime amar in the old peace
tranquil rain
Y'all should actually listen to ERRA btw, they're a fantastic prog metal band
quick stag
quick stag
Y'all should actually listen to ERRA btw, they're a fantastic prog metal band
ill see what they have cooked
zenith forge
I'm sure people will be normal, and sane
And not at all down ABYSMAL for this
quick stag
hotter loba from apex legends
EA stocks down the drain
they are adding more railjack instead of fixing shit?
oh my god
zenith forge
Man wouldn't it be funny if we got to tau by dragging hunhoe out of Uranus and he gives us a ride to tau
quick stag
they are leaning in the railjack content thats
kill fighters
kill crew ships
board ship
do a regular mission
extract in railjack
instead of missions like skirmish where you have to go back and forth form enemy ship and railjack
zenith forge
I mean it makes sense kinda
quick stag
i hate it
zenith forge
Cause I feel like most people don't wanna learn railjack content in general
Low-key I feel like the best way to handle railjack is make it like 3 crew ships you gotta deal with, but each is it's own mission
But like smaller
Oh nah
That Garuda proto animation gonna have people freaking out she's doing the yandere thing wtf
quick stag
Low-key I feel like the best way to handle railjack is make it like 3 crew ships...
yeah 3 is optimal
zenith forge
Oh nah brah she got that fuckass elanor tounge
quick stag
Oh nah brah she got that fuckass elanor tounge
thats just for elanor when she does the gemini emote
zenith forge
Bruh what da hell
zenith forge
thats just for elanor when she does the gemini emote
Oh
Lol they fucken KNEW
THEY KNEW
DE
Definite frEaks
Is Ash getting a rework?
quick stag
zenith forge
Thanks for the screen shot I can zoom in and read it better at my desk more inconspicuously
quick stag
this si the technical thign thye couldnt do back in the days
lol
i wonder if someone guessed it
zenith forge
3 losing the stack cost kinda concerns me tho
Cause like that was kinda part of his whole thing
quick stag
zenith forge
Ah man corpus ship relights
I hope it's not like the mercury relight I hate that shit
Cause I can't SEE shit!
quick stag
i assume its venus
zenith forge
I'm saying like how it looks
The mercury relight they did was ass
Tf they do with the camera
quick stag
make so that you can actually see
zenith forge
Sick
Are our shoulder guards gonna disappear when aiming down scope?
Id love to use velata prime armor but the shoulder guards literally block my whole screen
quick stag
depends on cosmetic
zenith forge
If it does that for velata I'll be happy
I like the big shoulder spikes but they're too damn big to aim with
Its still crazy to me we're getting an update that's like, a direct sequel to another one
Like yeah war within built off second dream but it wasn't called "second dream: war within"
Oh what the hell is all this
Tf is this color theory shii
zenith forge
So shiny bits more shiny
quick stag
how dark metals are tinted
zenith forge
I usually make my metals either a cyan or royal blue
quick stag
this year is performance upgrade year
quick stag
yeah
zenith forge
What are they talking about
zenith forge
So are they optimizing it more?
quick stag
yeah
tranquil rain
Yeah
zenith forge
Oh sick
quick stag
bunch of stuff i cant remember
zenith forge
When I hear performance update year I thought they meant like the game was gonna get more graphically intensive lol
Orion and Sirius red/green frames like their parent is neat
Id say it'd be cool is they each had some of talkers abilities
But stalker has like 90% other frames abilities lol
When next devstream?
zenith forge
Damn
My ass was watching on yt, no drop for me
Not like I need more shards tho lol
quick stag
built omni forma tho
i think the highlight of the devstream for me was Poncho for Mesa Heirlom
zenith forge
Real
Nidus touch up is cool too
Makes sense to put more labor intensive ones on the back burner and bang out more number tweak ones more frequently
tranquil rain
When I hear performance update year I thought they meant like the game was gonna...
They literally have the optimizerer on the team
zenith forge
Pog
calm fiber
love when my desires are exceeded
calm fiber
WHO HIRED MAPPA
mappa?
tranquil rain
ill see what they have cooked
I forgot to say, if you need recommendations, just hit me up
quick stag
https://youtu.be/ANEVlCEpRaA?si=AKy1Q92TdY3nguQK
this is studios LINE work iirc
tranquil rain
I thought Unga was just making a joke about the animation quality regardless
quick stag
massive news for my helminth charger nidus build
safe gull
With enough faceplanting into the brick wall you are going to stumble upon a person who got lucky in pubs
quick stag
yup
tranquil rain
safe gull
https://vxtwitter.com/pablomakes/status/2047771259291734336?s=46
This is big
quick stag
yup
safe gull
massive news for my helminth charger nidus build
massive news for OUR helminth charger nidus builds
quick stag
https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-mark-meme-ireetable-gif-9511739422236...
i found this gif
wait
is this too promiscuous?
calm fiber
We have first hand hater (you) second hand hater (me), now all we need is someon...
they just did their big presentation on how they're changing combat and they're making it so much worse than it's ever been, this game is dead.
it's going to make more money than anything they've ever done ever, and this game will never be good again
quick stag
True!
calm fiber
they literally namedropped sf6 modern
quick stag
calm fiber
"don't worry, we're not doing this to make combat easier. We're only doing it to make it easier for people who don't play the game, or are new."
Uh huh?
"we chopped down the list of buttons a ton. How did we do that? we made them way stronger!"
"Also this new mode is stronger than the old mode"
quick stag
explain it in warframe terms
zenith forge
it's going to make more money than anything they've ever done ever, and this gam...
Bro this is literally how I feel about strive 2.0
Those fuckers made the game worse and everyone's clapping for some reason
zenith forge
explain it in warframe terms
Imagine if saryn did everything she does at a single button press
With no need to manage spores
quick stag
oh
zenith forge
i found this gif
Invincible fans when s4 literally just ended (those jorkin it edits are freakishly common in the community no idea why, I think they've gone slightly rabid)
calm fiber
explain it in warframe terms
imagine if six years ago they chopped everyone down to 2 abilities, the worst and lamest two in their kit, then juiced the shit out of those abilities' numbers without making them interesting.
then they said "we hear you, you don't like how simple things are."
so they then did an update where they got rid of one of the two abilities, and the remaining ability is an exalted weapon that can't be modded, and they got rid of modding entirely in fact, and if you leveled one warframe it leveled all of them.
zenith forge
Don't you love it when devs make updates to appeal to people who DONT EVEN PLAY THE GODDAMN GAME at the cost of the enjoyment for THE PEOPLE WHO PLAY THE GODDAMN GAME
tranquil rain
Invincible fans when s4 literally just ended (those jorkin it edits are freakish...
They went insane after S4 E2
calm fiber
then they said "shit, you right, this is too complex, we'll make an alternate gameplay mode where you can't mod your weapons either, but don't worry, you can still play the mode where you CAN mod them. It's just that we're going to make it so that the version without weapon mods is just objectively better than the modded version ever could be no matter what."
also instead of adding new tilesets, every single tileset for the past 8 years was just jupiter with different color theming.
just railings, sparse enemies, annoying traversal.
But some of the jetpack enemies have a little bit of infested goo on them so it's different.
zenith forge
then they said "shit, you right, this is too complex, we'll make an alternate ga...
Duviri presets if cracked
If you will
calm fiber
Duviri presets if cracked
genuinely yes
calm fiber
Don't you love it when devs make updates to appeal to people who DONT EVEN PLAY ...
the vacationers who only want to play strive for a few weeks a year are in love with 2.0, surely this is a good sign
zenith forge
the vacationers who only want to play strive for a few weeks a year are in love ...
REAL
Oh and the pro players
Who hot take
calm fiber
they want it easy so they don't have to invest and can go back to twoko
they don't actually want a deep game worth exploring
zenith forge
I'm 90% only like it cause the games dumbed down cause it's easier to win a game with less variables
calm fiber
they want victory handed to them so they can go play other games and follow the trends
zenith forge
I see were in the same chapter of the book
calm fiber
yup
zenith forge
zenith forge
REAL
calm fiber
how do people not see what's happening
zenith forge
Everyone talks how this patch is awesome and it's so weird to me
calm fiber
"Oh your actions have CONSEQUENCES" bro this is the spend 50 meter do goofy shit franchise
zenith forge
Like I get disliking wild assault or whatever (I loved WA but I can see why it could be "toxic")
But like come the fuck on now
calm fiber
I uninstalled sf6 like a year ago and I did so for a reason, hint hint
zenith forge
ITS GODDAMN GUILTY GEAR
Me go unga bunga and have fun
Not this fuck ass neutral garbage
calm fiber
WA was a bandaid that I didn't much care for because they went "shit, characters are too weak individually, let's slap in an absurdly overtuned system mechanic instead of tweak characters"
this shit is like going from back alley knife fights to t-ball
zenith forge
WA was fun cause it let you play Xrd for a few seconds
calm fiber
the sf6 balancing trick: if all the power is in system mechanics you can make the game very balanced by controlling how characters interact with that system mechanic
everyone's balanced, even characters that are dog shit, because they all have drive rush
similarly, strive
zenith forge
Also to take a stab at it
Its always "muh meta" or "muh balance"
Where the fuck is "muh fun"
I feel like people forget this shit is supposed to be a video game you play FOR FUN
Like video games, as a concept are made to be something you play for some kind of enjoyment
calm fiber
1000%
zenith forge
And like ok, there are people who like "neutral" and "footsies"
And that's fine! ( 🤢 )
The thing is there are games more focused on THAT sort of thing
Why on earth would you slow down GUILTY GEAR
calm fiber
fucking +R has neutral and footsies
the small-brained just don't recognize them as such
because if it doesn't visibly look like streets how can it be neutral
tell me you can't win in +R by fishing for whiff punishes
go on and lie
lmao
zenith forge
EXACTLY
calm fiber
street fighter's dominance in the genre is the worst fucking blight to ever happen to this genre
zenith forge
The footsies guilty gear is known for isnt the fucken slow ass poke SF bullshit
zenith forge
Its you and the other guy rocketing at each other at a million miles a hour
zenith forge
I am dooming so fucking bad rn
Strive unironically makes me want to make my own fighting game thats like the anti strive
calm fiber
I'm putting all my hopes on avatar's success
I know it's incredibly unlikely but maybe if avatar is massively successful and people go "look how cool and insane this game is" other companies might go "oh, you can make a game that's fun and sell copies? that's insane, let's try that"
zenith forge
Real
Also looping back to warframe
Massive discovery
If you hit fire walker in gauss mach rich while holding a different direction you can instantly corner
calm fiber
oh that's tech
zenith forge
HE CAN ONE EIGHTY THAT SHIT
Welp
Guess I'm modding for efficiency again
DE WONT GIVE ME A DRIFT ILL MAKE MY OWN
See THIS is why Warframe is a good game
I can experiment and DO MY OWN SHIT
calm fiber
Hell yeah
zenith forge
And not have DE go "uhm, ackshullay that wasn't intended, when have to remove it"
calm fiber
It's a better casual fun game than games that intend to be casual fun games
zenith forge
I think it's cause fire walker has that little hop animation
And that's sped up by cast speed
That's fly as fuck tho
calm fiber
Fuck yeah
zenith forge
@quick stag @safe gull massive gauss findings
Casting fire walker mid mach rush lets you whip that shit around
You have to like drag the stick around to get it but you can totally do it consistently if you get the muscle memory for it
If you peel away from the turn then then whip it I bet that helps you get a better angle on it
And you definitely wanna preempt it a bit going into the turn cause your momentum carries you forward a bit
Its a actual honest to God drift!
quick stag
the small-brained just don't recognize them as such
i played like 4 matches in 2.0 and didnt notice anything differant
zenith forge
Well how much GG did you play before that
quick stag
Casting fire walker mid mach rush lets you whip that shit around
like drifting?
zenith forge
Yeah
quick stag
Well how much GG did you play before that <:SOLKEKW:917214151217131530>
nothing since lucy launch
zenith forge
Its like Mario karts kinda with the hop
Its like Mario karts, but the hop carries way more momentum, and when you hit the ground again you pivot whichever way you hold the stick
calm fiber
i played like 4 matches in 2.0 and didnt notice anything differant
Right now the only thing that's good in strive is jam
zenith forge
Swerve star
Its the fucken swerve star from Kirby air riders
But like if you had no brakes
quick stag
But like if you had no brakes
zenith forge
Oh fuck using the camera to turn is actually a great idea
quick stag
Oh fuck using the camera to turn is actually a great idea
what were you using?
zenith forge
I was doing it raw by holding foward, then holding a direction, then hitting the button
So when I hit the ground I snap that way
I was basically doing like a quarter circle but fucked up and evil
quick stag
with camera you can literally do 180's
zenith forge
I could also one eighty but I had to do a really fast half circle during the little hop
zenith forge
As shit my b
quick stag
no worries
sleep will not come to claim me until 4am
quick stag
Damn
btw i dont think we will get 2 frames with next jade shadows constallations update
but same warframe with 2 skins
and which one you get will depend which name you picked for stalkers child
tranquil rain
Maybe a different name depending on your choice
quick stag
yup
quick stag
equinox
and i guess jade shadows when when they added stalker as playable
tho his kit is like
uhh
zenith forge
and i guess jade shadows when when they added stalker as playable
The ever humble duviri paradox:
zenith forge
equinox
I mean does that really count
I think they intended to release Grendel and gauss simultaneously but didn't end up doing it
quick stag
I mean does that *really* count
xaku
calm fiber
and which one you get will depend which name you picked for stalkers child
They ain't giving you the skins without plat
zenith forge
I mean like 2 frames in parallel to each other
So like not sev
calm fiber
They'll sell both and you pick which you want
zenith forge
Yeah them being two proto skins for the same frame seems likely
safe gull
https://fixupx.com/death_ma666ots/status/2047396668661014579?s=20
Got the woof woof prime and the picture does kind of resemble the 10 mil dmg proc I had with her 4
tranquil rain
Makes sense for Uriel to be Sukuna, since the open domain with limited range
quick stag
wait a minute
is the sentient we see in new trailer Hunhow?
rising form Uranus?
finally he will see his wife again
zenith forge
I think his wife dead tho
quick stag
quick stag
I think his wife dead tho
we were on Pragasa at tennocon 2025
safe gull
zenith forge
we were on Pragasa at tennocon 2025
Her corpse
zenith forge
https://fixupx.com/4MORI4N/status/2047750156406460900?s=20
Why does this look like that one fuckass jjk meme
zenith forge
I need a peringale riven
I need more multishot
The infinite ammo shotgun sniper will be mine
quick stag
The infinite ammo shotgun sniper will be mine
you can have this one if you want
zenith forge
Yoo deadass?
quick stag
yeah
zenith forge
That shit would be perfect
quick stag
i need DE to give snipers same sights as vadarya
zenith forge
I'm doing the event survival rn I can trade in a few minutes
quick stag
sure
speaking of the event
@safe gull @tranquil rain @calm fiber Follie event is ending in 3d and 22h
safe gull
quick stag
i still need to grind it for the new ephemeras
zenith forge
i still need to grind it for the new ephemeras
Just finished the thing
quick stag
ign:druvix
zenith forge
Thanks a ton
quick stag
👍
zenith forge
This will go nicely with my heavy caliber
quick stag
glad to be of help
speaking of rivens
i need ot open them
not counting these with unveiled challange
zenith forge
If you happen across a melee vinquibus riv I've been popping melee rivs myself for those
zenith forge
Rn the perigale is at 3 multi pre galvanized ramp
tranquil rain
<@243073796615962625> <@258762305821474836> <@215618938573160450> Follie event i...
I'm out for the week, oh well
quick stag
If you happen across a melee vinquibus riv I've been popping melee rivs myself f...
how do they work?
a riven for mlee and rifle seperatly?
zenith forge
a riven for mlee and rifle seperatly?
Yes, I already have the gun riven
calm fiber
<@243073796615962625> <@258762305821474836> <@215618938573160450> Follie event i...
Ughhhhh
Is it even worth doing
calm fiber
Odds they come back via a less obnoxious route?
quick stag
they come back next operation
tranquil rain
quick stag
ball
quick stag
just like jade ephemera is coming back with belly of the beast operation
zenith forge
I got my wires crossed
I got like 1.3k volatile motes from the last belly of the beast run, I'm gonna have all the good arcanes damn near Instantly
I grinded all the stuff I wanted and pregamed that shit lol
quick stag
before belly of the beast returned for the first rerun i realized that i had about 3k volitile motes in storage
so i bought maxxed jade arcanes and sold them 130 a pop