Warframe

[quick stag]

you cant cast it mid 4

[zenith forge]

You can't cast anything mid 4 tho

So might as well basically double dip on chain reactions

Tho I suppose nourish could also be good for more passive DMG buffs

But that's boring

[quick stag]

but his 3 stays active during his 4

also its survivability instead of dmg

[zenith forge]

But I want more damage

How good is more survivability when more kill?

[quick stag]

how good is more dmg when you are dead?

[zenith forge]

But invincible button

[quick stag]

But toxin get get through

any status

[zenith forge]

Nuh uh

Invincible

[quick stag]

https://tenor.com/view/invulnerable-gif-22484955

[zenith forge]

Ngl

High str/duration gauss with eclipse, redline, and thermal sunder is peak cinema

[quick stag]

if you are interested in gauss check this video out

https://youtu.be/nxWSLdmg1rI?si=PSOsXl4BuyTQ9LOB

https://youtu.be/pjhJGWrmHek?si=NyOqHFk0B284MsY9

also this one

got a lot of good info

[zenith forge]

Ik the idea is you heat prime then basically detonate le nuke but I simply cannot be asked to prime

I want to shoot people and have them explode

Not shoot them, then clap my hands, and thusly have that make them ezplode

[quick stag]

check first one then

[zenith forge]

Ok I will

I think I already say that video ngl

Idk I like the idea of Gauss as a weapons platform more tbh because I just find that more fun to sprint around the map and eat/breath/shit damage from my gun as opposed to setting up to blow people up

That and I will NEVER get over my gauss sprint speed addiction

The people who subsume over gauss 1 because "it's his best subsume slot" are maniacs

Sure that may be like the best one functionally

But at the same time if you're subbing over mach rush why are you even playing gauss in the first place then?

https://tenor.com/view/gauss-warframe-preparation-run-gas-gif-8581397105412561521

[quick stag]

absolute cinema

i love that prime trailer so much

[zenith forge]

I want a mach rush augment that lets you Tokyo drift by hitting the slide button during it and then after the drift you get a appropriate speed boost correlating to how long you held the drift for, with the gain rate scaling with Str and doubling under redline

Would it be good?

No

Would I drop a actually good mod for it?

Ab-so-fucking-lutely

That and or a augment for redline that gives you a speed boost correlating to your battery % charge under redline, and maybe have it give redlines %gain get extra str scaling to amp it up faster

The worst part of gausses design is easily the fact that your redline gain is inversely proportional to your duration

All in all of redline EVER gets an augment I feel like it's gonna get one of those "kills add seconds back to your duration" augments with Maybe some funny sprint speed add ons because adding anything else genuinely would make it absurd

Then again the duration on kill one would also make it absurd because it hypothetically lets gauss never die* assuming he has kinetic playing up AND itd leave him in a state of being permanently powered up with sunders and such

[quick stag]

c'mon we got fukcing revenant,chroma vex armour, gyre cathode, and probably some more

we could def get it

also

Oraxia??? she got fucking everything

[zenith forge]

True

I really do hope come chromas rework they just say fuck it give him all the base element wards simultaneously and basically make 1 a channeled lash for all 4 of the base elements

His whole schtick is being the weapons platform frame I think giving him 2 vectors to scale his damage is fine

That and it should NOT be hard for him to utilize elemental based effects as the base element guy

[quick stag]

perhaps augment to his 1 which activates buff based on your weapon elements

but i guess itll just spiral down into CO heaven

[zenith forge]

Well arguably again he should work well with that

[quick stag]

perhaps too well

wait

if combined elements dont count its not that bad

[zenith forge]

No yeah it just force procs the base 4 elements

Like cold/heat/toxin/elec

Is like my idea

[quick stag]

my idea was that you can get multiple ability 1 buffs at the same time based on your gun modding

i dont know how to formulate it well

[zenith forge]

Like having it so proccing a dual element status with your gun procs both base element statuses?

Like if you proc viral on your gun you also get a forced cold/toxin

[quick stag]

wait
i just realized it that its more of a elemental ward than spectral scream augment

[zenith forge]

Idk I feel like the idea of chroma being locked into one element at a time feels very archaic

[quick stag]

yeah

well good news are that chroma is on pablos hit list

so

[zenith forge]

And I'm not saying he should be like voruna where he just looks at someone and hits em with 10 stacks of 5 different procs

Limiting him to just the base elements seems like a fair balance cause its pretty measured all things considered

Assuming you slam someone with all 4 base procs you essentially get:
-Small cc/mild armor strip/dot from heat
-buildup to CD buffs and hard CC from cold
-Pure Dot that skips shields from toxin
-small CC/aoe from electric procs

Really the best situation is if you have GunCO and get like 320%+ base DMG on your next hit

And that's being paired up with Vex armor, which already gives a shitton of base dmg

[quick stag]

and thermal transfer

[zenith forge]

Like idk I kinda hope Pablo doubles up into chroma just killing one specific thing good because a big ass base DMG buff by itself isn't cutting edge anymore

It's good don't get me wrong

But like other frames get shit that's comparable to that amount of damage increase AND 3 other actually good abilities

[quick stag]

yeah

[zenith forge]

My biggest concern with a potential chroma rework ngl is the fact they might drop the double bullet jump passive

[quick stag]

i hope they improve it somehow

[zenith forge]

Three

[quick stag]

i love getting wings whike flying around

[zenith forge]

Three bullet jumps

[quick stag]

YEEAAAH

[zenith forge]

Unlimited aim glide would be awesome

Or turn off gravity while in aimglide

[quick stag]

yoooo

thats would be awesome

and it wpuldnt be op

but it would clash with zephyr passive

[zenith forge]

They won't give him proper Dr in his abilities so we slap aviator on that bitch

[zenith forge]

She has reduced gravity period

I think shutting it off exclusively during aimglide is fine

See the sad thing is Uriel is getting like

The ideal Chroma passive rework

As a ability!

I hope that's Uriels helminth ability

Fuck it, unlimited bullet jumps

And make it so each one gives a stacking movement speed boost

Speed frame chroma will never not be hilarious

[quick stag]

oh my god

that shit was awesome

[zenith forge]

Chroma flying past a Titania will never not be hilarious

But yeah literally just do not fuck with the passive and odds are I'll like the chroma rework no matter what it is

It's still funny in hindsight they swapped vex armor to be base DMG with PoE instead of being multiplicative because they didn't want him killing eidolons too fast

Nowadays chroma isn't even meta for eidolons

And people don't really hunt eidolons that much anymore even

[quick stag]

yeah

have you seen energize prices

peopel jsut farm the event for it

hot shot is the go to item in arcane dissolutions

[zenith forge]

Just maxxed my hotshot

Is it additive CC like avenger or like a extra mod like Point strike?

[quick stag]

i dunno

[zenith forge]

Low-key arcane avenger is like one of the best arcanes dead ass assuming your frame either
A.) can take a hit
B.)can use combat discipline
C.) both!

[quick stag]

lizzie goes brrrr red crits

[zenith forge]

A flat 50% CC is hard to argue with id say

Only problem is if you wanna use zarimen incarnons ig

Which even then

Idk cause like those weapons best use case scenario was to punch through damage attenuation thanks to that fifth passive but idk if that recent attenuation change helped or hurt that passive

Because yeah 2000% faction is good

But it's only 50% of the time, on a non crit

[quick stag]

i built 2 phenmors just to build them with crit and non crit

crit version was primary acuity build

damn this thread is liek second most active gaming thread

i dont counts "from software" and "gacha hell" cuz thats multiple game discussions in onc thread

[zenith forge]

Lmao

Alot of it is probably just me going on tirades ngl lol

Same with the MH one

[calm fiber]

I would like if chroma had 2 buttons that did something visually cool and effective when pressed

right now he has two buttons that are effective but boring, one button that purely exists for one extremely niche gimmick and isn't the augment slot because the other button is so bad people forget he has it or, if they do remember it, they remember it because it COULD be cool but it isn't.

[zenith forge]

honestly im oth the opposite opinion

the chroma buttons shount be flashy, what should be flashy is me shooting guy and him exploding with beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg number

[calm fiber]

dragon breathe fire, breathe fire should be fun and cool to do

[quick stag]

real

[zenith forge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3590096906

the last thing those grineer fucks see when i cast 3,3,4

[quick stag]

peak gauss build

Unga McBunGuy

no lamantation

[zenith forge]

Interesting arcane picks

[zenith forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[quick stag]

max comfort

no energy loss

no toxin downs

[quick stag]

gundam gauss

[zenith forge]

I get the toxin one cause that's like the biggest gauss killer, but I feel like you can offset the magnetic one with a energize and then reap more benefits outside the situations where you get mag procced

[zenith forge]

Dope af tho

[quick stag]

hmmm

arcane blessing perhaps

health liek that with kinetic plate can probably survive up to like lvl 750

hold up

i got better one

Pistoleer

then ill build a cool double pistol weapon

and

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[zenith forge]

Akarius with akimbo slipshot

[quick stag]

okey

you might be onto something

[zenith forge]

Fun fact you can slap that on the dual decurion

Do with that what you will

[zenith forge]

Ngl very tempted to try zephyr with that setup

[quick stag]

nothing really

archguns have short glide duration

[zenith forge]

Finally

Aimglide mods have a purpose in life

[quick stag]

lmao

[quick stag]

@zenith forge @calm fiber

holy shit

[zenith forge]

Guh

[quick stag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVGc8_8xGZQ

[zenith forge]

Gigafart lavos?

Intriguing

[quick stag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnEisJ3ib5U

evil xaku build is diabolical

[calm fiber]

weapon platform gauss baybee

[calm fiber]

oh that's CRAZY

[calm fiber]

I've been seeing those thumbnails lately

I've resisted getting clickbaited so far LMAO

[quick stag]

i dont think its clickbait

[zenith forge]

I had a great idea for how they can rework hp tanking to be better

So y'know how armor DR is calculated by using armor#/(armor#+300)? That basically ensures you can never hit 100 Dr because it's a logarithmic function approaching 100

What we do is take the coefficient of that (so 100%-Armor DR%) and have that be how much one single hit can take out of your HP pool

So like for example if I had say around 3000 armor, which would about approximate 91% armor DR, the max amount of damage I could take from a single hit would be 9% of my HP

The problem with that system that arises is that would effectively make HP modding useless because if it just scaled off your Max HP then it wouldn't matter as much how much HP you had, your armor would be the more relevant factor

Which to counter that I'd also say that the "HP gates" HP values should be set using your frames base unmodded HP as opposed to your current HP, that way more HP is directly multiplicative to your survivability

So like in the previous example if I had 91% Dr (so I can't lose more than 9% of my HP from a single hit) if I double my HP pool (say 100 to 200) the maximum damage I can take from a single attack is 9 either way. With 200 hp I have twice as long to react to whatever's hitting me

To balance it tho I think it shouldn't have any invincibility on any given gate threshold. It's less so there to make it so you can just stand there and not die, it's moreso there to make sure you can't randomly get one shot by random enemies

This would mostly be good on frames that already have high base armor (so they can face tank better without spontaneously combusting) and encourage actual HP/Armor modding while also trickling down to le Squishies by giving them a emergency one shot negation

Not that it's prolly going to save them because again it just stops the one hit but still

[quick stag]

@zenith forge @calm fiber

gotta farm some aya

easy play once wisp drops in resurgence

[zenith forge]

i already am prefarming wisp lmao

im gonna wait till the protoframe drops

cause yknow thats gonna spike the price

[quick stag]

nah

price is gonna drop now cuz resurgence

i doubt the protoframe will cause a wisp set shortage

[calm fiber]

Your idea is fascinating

I think the methodology sounds interesting, though the numbers definitely need tweaking

One of the core concerns imo would be how much health values vary

[calm fiber]

NGL aya so miserable it makes me glad I don't need it outside helping friends

[quick stag]

i just wanna sell it

i alreadg got about 60

but could do with some more

also one of the syandana needs aya for some reason

[zenith forge]

I mean the thing I'll say is the example I had was a pretty generous estimate on how much armor you can get, because getting 90% DR off that's nearly unheard of

[calm fiber]

I think broadly a cap over gating re: health is a much more interesting concept than any I've otherwise heard

Idk about that being that generous though iirc I'm hitting 98 on baruuk and any frame with any decent amount of beef at all is breaking 90% even without a fully dedicated build, no? Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Oberon alone dropping like 2k flat armor can give that to almost anyone

Though maybe that's probing the point?

*proving

I think shield gating was sorely needed but I don't think gating as the be all end all mechanic is good so this system you propose sounds sick

I miss when inaros was tanky

[zenith forge]

I mean it's less gating and more a one shot negation mechanic which is arguably health tankings biggest weakness

You take basically zero damage until suddenly you're taking all the damage and you die spontaneously.

Also the thing with baruuk is his DR comes from abilities iirc his base armor is like non existent, which leads to like a weird disconnect cause it's usually way easier to hit 90% DR on abilities than it is through armor

And even then that 90% is multiplicative to armor and other forms of DR

Like the reason why say, mesmer skin or shield gating is so good for survivability is that it's consistent no matter the level

Like a lvl 100 and lvl 9999 are probably going to rip through your shields/mesmer stacks at approximately the same rate effectively (because shields flat 50% Dr isn't stopping it from getting instantly popped usually past lvl100) the thing is for both you can Regen them faster than they get taken away making you way harder to kill

Health tanking has very distinct points where it just falls off the face of the earth as a option, and in order to push the bar back on that for further and further levels you need to invest more and more into your survivability with ultimately more diminishing returns cause every slot you dedicate to living longer is a slot you give up other stats for

Frames like Oberon or Inaros or valkyr or chroma HAVE to give insane armor buffs to compete because armor inherently as a system gives such deminishing returns for survivability

And even then the best HP tank in the game rn is valkyr

She has 1000 base armor, an ability that gives a extra 50% of that at base, and her 4 multiplies that armor buff by 3x while it's active

And even then we were like "just in case tho we should give her a extra bar that gives her a death defy"

Similar thing with oberons new passive and his diet mesmer skin

[calm fiber]

I get what you're saying and I pretty much agree with you I just think a concern is how difficult it might be to fine-tune the right proportions

[zenith forge]

I mean that's fair

[calm fiber]

like it seems much harder to balance

not impossible, just a lot harder a solution than i.e. shield gating was

[zenith forge]

Idk I think having it work like old mesmer skin (where it's a small damage speed bump as opposed to getting a hit>invincibility window gate) would be interesting because that would make it as effective as shield gating while also having different weaknesses compared to shield gating

Shield gatings biggest weaknesses are either things that completely bypass shields, or running out of resources to keep your shield charged (usually energy if you're running augur/respite+catalyzing shields)

This would moreso lose to high enemy density because each hit would chip away at you faster, and would rely on you being able to keep regenerating your health somewhat

Which is how health tanking ideally does work

The problem with the current iteration is that you can't out heal damage that one shots you, and past like levels id say 500 or so getting one shot is definitely possible

Thing is sometimes it won't even be missions with that high of levels where you'll get one shot

Stuff like the gunner thrax void mode lazers or the bombard rocket or blitz eximus power wave, necramech in general can catch you out way earlier at lower levels

And it's annoying to be doing pretty good running and gunning when suddenly you get tagged by something and just spontaneously combust

I've had that happen a handfull of times in netracells solo and it's always annoying to be doing great and then suddenly I'm dead

ESPECIALLY with the void burst key, that's super prone to just instakilling you, especially when you clear the netracells bar cause that auto detonates the enemies

Which also auto detonates the void burst things

And if you happen to be near the last few enemies when you kill em you spontaneously combust right when you won and it sucks every time

[quick stag]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[zenith forge]

Lol

[quick stag]

40p jumpscare

1% chance to drop

did razorback like 6 times

[zenith forge]

Whats searing steel ?

[quick stag]

archmelee 60/60 heat

[zenith forge]

I see

[quick stag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZS0K3Pyimo

i think you would like this

it goes quite into specifics on how warframe works

[zenith forge]

Soon ™

[quick stag]

@calm fiber

60% mag tenet exec

[calm fiber]

Oh NICE

Wish those weren't miserable to farm the currency for

[zenith forge]

How do you even get corrupt holo keys?

[quick stag]

void storms

[quick stag]

its better now

[calm fiber]

oh they buffed the droprate?

thank fucking god

maybe I'll farm them at some point then

[quick stag]

tenet exec is gone in 4 days

[calm fiber]

I already got one I'm happy with

[zenith forge]

How many keys?

[quick stag]

10 iirc

[zenith forge]

How long does that take?

[quick stag]

i dunno

wait

no

its 40

[zenith forge]

Is it just cracking relics oooor?

[quick stag]

just cracking relics in void storm

[zenith forge]

How many per relic

[quick stag]

depends

[zenith forge]

Void storm defense should make it go fast enough

Only question is can you get the hydron map on defense in void storm?

Cause the corpus one kinda ass

[quick stag]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Corrupted_Holokey

check drop rates

i usually do skirmish with another player

[zenith forge]

I need to tag along for veil proxima void storms

[spice yoke]

fish

fish

fish

[zenith forge]

I got the beeg sword

[quick stag]

mf will do anything just to avoid open world content

[zenith forge]

Based and real

[spice yoke]

FISH

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-7118186382740991644

[spice yoke]

My friend owed me a favor.

[quick stag]

custom chroma design

[zenith forge]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[quick stag]

@zenith forge @calm fiber

Devstream #191

in 29min

[calm fiber]

oh sick ty

their twitch is playwarframe right?

oh, no it's just warframe LMFAO

[quick stag]

https://www.twitch.tv/warframe/schedule

[quick stag]

nun lip bite

[zenith forge]

Just watched the thing

Finally

Cool gunsword

[zenith forge]

Baldis why you posting this when the comically large gun sword was RIGHT THERE

[quick stag]

better spearguns

[zenith forge]

They should go back and retrofit spear guns to this

[quick stag]

true

man
fucking everything drops at the start of the december

Warframe old peace,unbeatable, path of exile update

[zenith forge]

Fucken MHwilds update is the....4th?

Also ER NR

[quick stag]

unlucky

[zenith forge]

The new dlc

[quick stag]

buh?

[zenith forge]

Bro I'm not even gonna bother

[quick stag]

damn

[zenith forge]

Elden ring nightreign dlc

[quick stag]

oh

[zenith forge]

If I try to play wilds I'm gonna get pissed at the fact the games gonna crash

[quick stag]

so ive heard

thats why i bought world instead

[zenith forge]

Rise is right there tho

[quick stag]

another MH game?

[zenith forge]

Yes

That or GU

[tranquil rain]

I'm sorry for your loss

[calm fiber]

He looks so fucking COOL

Straight up mgsv fire shenanigans lmfao

[quick stag]

who

[zenith forge]

Im assuming uriel

Out of all his abilities I really hope his subsume is the one

The two feels too lame duck, the 3 is too specific, and the 4 is moveset defining

Like the four seemingly is tied to a wholly unrelated bar

[quick stag]

i want melee canonade mod that locks attack speed for massive dmg/crit bonuss

RAAARGH I FUCKING HATE ATTACK SPEED MODS

[zenith forge]

Evil and fucked up spoiled strike:

[quick stag]

its not the same

[zenith forge]

Yo y'know what'd be hype as fuck

With the new proto frames coming into being in the middle ages sometime presumably cause of the XX99 time denominator it'd be sick if we go further back for more proto frames

Case and point make it so proto chroma isn't a protoframe because he specifically was injected with the helminth, rather entrati was fucking around with the helminth strain and made a helminth strain baseddragon, which this caveman guy killed and proceeded to eat and skin, wearing it like how barbarians tended to wear animal skins

That'd be hype as FUCK

[quick stag]

its 1899

i think roath description from devstream leaked it

[zenith forge]

crazy

entrati went before WW!/2 and didnt stop them

[zenith forge]

Love the idea that entrati just keeps going back 100 years at a time

"the indifference won't reach me here"
"Fuck! It's The indifference!"

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-gif-austin-powers-austinpowers-austin-powers-movie-austin-powers-movies-gif-14288338958854357370

[quick stag]

can you belive it guys

old peace

just week away

wow

iam so happy about this information

can you belive it

[calm fiber]

You mean the button that's just what chroma passive should be LMAO

[quick stag]

@zenith forge

[zenith forge]

How did you know my intent

[quick stag]

includes overguard

[zenith forge]

I saw, does it include shield?

[quick stag]

hmm

dunno

probably

[calm fiber]

It says defenses then clarifies only armor lasts 5s

[zenith forge]

Kinda wish the armor buff wasn't on a timer

[quick stag]

5 sec is too low

[zenith forge]

It should be like health conversion

[calm fiber]

I feel like that would be too much but 5s is real low

It makes sense if it stacks though

Stage dive a crowd and hit 15000 armor

[zenith forge]

Amalgam barrel diffusions time to shine

Also useless vs infested lmao

It'd be MAD funny if we could steal sentient adaptations

[quick stag]

steal overguard from their eximus

[zenith forge]

Also no one's mentioning

This is just better arcane double back

[quick stag]

lol

[zenith forge]

Also as a aside

That arcane should build stacks no matter what thing you do

The fact I need do Bullet jump, roll, AND double jump in order to get the max buff and they're on different timers is so ass

Dead ass if I could just maintain the 75 with a roll every few seconds id literally be able to dump adaptation

[quick stag]

iam about to farm railjack spy missions for mods i dont have

[zenith forge]

Unironically I feel like they designed arcane double back, then were afraid it'd be too good so they nerfed it before it even got out the door

[quick stag]

double back is just annoying null star

[zenith forge]

Precisely

If it treated all the stacks the same and let you build em with any acrobatic move it'd be way better

[quick stag]

i sold my stuff

[quick stag]

@calm fiber torid incarnon is here

and every other good incarnon too

[calm fiber]

thanks! I already got the torid but lemme make sure I got the rest too

[quick stag]

you should

duak ichor and latron incarnons are amazing

[calm fiber]

yeah I got them all

I need to actually make builds for most of 'em tho

dual toxocyst my formerly beloved

maybe we can find love again

[zenith forge]

Got all the incarnons I want

Retried vadarya

The trigger honestly is less bad than expected, the fact it auto charges and auto releases at max charge unless you hold it is nice to spread shots down a hall

Granted, it'd be better if it worked like the the opticor vandal with the auto trigger enabled where you can rapid fire shots off by holding the trigger down but ah well

https://youtu.be/nd8lqqcYUrk?si=EqVh1-93GrvWRnPa

The fact I can do this now officially without needing a turbo controller/macro is so fucking based

Is it good? No

Do I care? Absofuckinglutely NOT

[quick stag]

eyo?

[quick stag]

@zenith forge @calm fiber

finally finished anasa wall

[calm fiber]

why

[zenith forge]

Free will

[reef bridge]

How much Endo is that?

[zenith forge]

3450 Endo per thing if fully socketed

Seems to be about 140ish up there

438K

Almost 11 prime mods maxxed

[reef bridge]

Crazy. I would kill a bug for that much endo

[zenith forge]

I've been giving out free ayatans for tennobaum as a bit do you want some

[reef bridge]

That's alright. If I get endo then I have to farm credits and that is a fate worse than death

[zenith forge]

Apparently 1999 bounties are good for both

[quick stag]

epic Hermos referance

sadly it doesnt freeze my game hwne i log in

[zenith forge]

The great kuva farm when baldis

[quick stag]

i got 1,5m

i dont need more

GYAAAT

also i managed to gather 30 sets of gauss before its vaulted

[calm fiber]

mother of god

[quick stag]

mmmmm platinum

(in 9 months)

unveiling all my rivens

slowly going insane

best ive gotten from it

[zenith forge]

I have 4

Gonna make so much moneh

[quick stag]

nat 20
on shit weapon

i need to buy like 20 more of these from baro

i want to lay it on the floor of my orbiter

[zenith forge]

I'm in Warframe retirement waiting for old peace

Max range/efficiency lavos running through Void captures looking for ayatans when the arbitration stinks

[quick stag]

statues?

[zenith forge]

Yeeeees

Internet says SP doesn't help but I call bullshit on that

[quick stag]

i dont think it does

[zenith forge]

All the ones I got were in SP

[quick stag]

smth smth sample size of 10

[tranquil rain]

https://vxtwitter.com/pablomakes/status/1998156671957524589?s=46

Pablo (@PabloMakes)

A few more of the Arcanes releasing soon!

Numbers subject to change.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Dec 8, 2025, 10:24 PM

[zenith forge]

Chroma looking at primary bulwark like "Waiter waiter! More base damage please!"

Persistence giving a fucken HP gate is awesome

That plus hunter adrenaline is gonna go nuts

[quick stag]

its 500 per second

https://imthehottest18yearoldononlyfansx.com/PabloMakes/status/1998159644611817490

Pablo (@PabloMakes)

Persistence if per second btw, not per damage instance

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FixupX · Dec 8, 2025, 10:35 PM

Holy shit

Azure Tau shards will actually have use

For hitting 700 armour

Also i bet we will get Prime metal fiber in next baro visit

[quick stag]

holy shit

it actually runs on my phone

[zenith forge]

The fact it shuts off your shields is interesting

Definitely a must have for frames without shields already

[quick stag]

Kullervo

yooooo

i can swap my orange tau shards from shield gain on blast to even more health

on chroma

[zenith forge]

The nice part is the 500 per sec also means youre effectively getting a HP gate

[quick stag]

yes

Thats literally what it is

sounds good

[zenith forge]

So like for every 500 HP you have you get a second longer to live

[quick stag]

i wonder how itll feel in game

[quick stag]

nidus with 30k hp can stay alive for a minute

[zenith forge]

It scales multiplicatively off armor and HP effectively

[quick stag]

does it?

[zenith forge]

I mean

In theory

[quick stag]

its flat 500 isnt it?

[zenith forge]

Cause More armor means it takes longer to drain HP

More HP means you live longer

[quick stag]

yes

[zenith forge]

Quick thinking/hunter adrenaline boutta go stupid

[quick stag]

but armour scaling falls of after lvl500 cuz thats when you get one tapped with a health tank frame

[zenith forge]

Arcane grace boutta be worth a lot more

Ok hear me out

Molt reconstruct low efficiency

If you have a ability with 75 energy cost the energy return should be enough to clear the gate on return

Ok so it's just under it

Hunter adrenaline plus reconstruct enables infinite energy and refreshing your HP bar

[quick stag]

what

[zenith forge]

Reconstruct heals 6 HP per energy spent on ability cast

[quick stag]

oh

i mistook it for molt effeciancy

[zenith forge]

So if you have a ability costing 75 energy you heal 450

[quick stag]

wtf

thats so much healing

[zenith forge]

Nearly enough to recoup your gate from persistence

[quick stag]

oh no

[zenith forge]

Oh that's team wide btw

[quick stag]

its shield gate all over again

[zenith forge]

Gloom chroma definitely gonna be WAY better

Gloom in general actually

That plus Rage

You are effectively unkillable as long as you keep hitting things

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-hikari-gif-1408129775731152385

Actually

Furis plus persistence is gonna be the new super boss cheese I bet

Cause life steal aug

Reconstruct plus any ability that makes you invincible plus persistence is in essence shield gating without needing ANY mod slots as long as you have HP/armor to spare

Also

This means a lot more frames are gonna be able to benefit from the no shields OG rage synergy for extra safety and shield gen

Ngl that arcane sounds awesome, I just wish it scaled better with armor specifically cause once you clear the 700 min any armor over that is irrelevant essentially

Honestly If it was every 700 armor getting you one second that'd be cool

Primary bulwark is gonna be so nice tho

Having a primary arcane with little to no ramp up is fantastic

Inaros holds 3 for like 2 seconds and suddenly he gets 600-700% base DMG lmao

Is primary bulwark overkill on chroma? Yes
Do I care

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-bird-soul-gif-21844036

No

[quick stag]

True!

[zenith forge]

The biggest L for persistence is that chroma has to manually charge his armor buff with melee kills with it

[zenith forge]

Cinema

Dumping avenger for persistence is gonna be sad tho

But then again

Transient fortitude

Low-key valkyr is the real winner here

The claws have innate lifesteal

Imagine if we get mods that grant lifesteal or healing on hit for primaries/secondaries

[tranquil rain]

They were already basically immortal too, like

[zenith forge]

Crazy cat lady being able to maintain her 300% base melee damage passive gonna go insane

Don't need to burn death defy if you just keep swinging

Ok actually interesting idea

Trinity

Idk how hard it'd be to clear that 700 armor barrier but that'd be fantastic with all the ridiculous healing she can do

Ah ykmow what'd be a interesting workaround to the 700 armor requirement?

Health conversion

Two stacks insta 900 armor

Breach surge or chyrinka pillar plus universe fallout

[zenith forge]

https://youtu.be/4BgLKn53ePo?si=ZrEIiw7fRZDAyNJ2

Ah

Circuit/deep archimedia but I'm a master of my own destiny

[quick stag]

thats crazy

who needs archon shard slots when yku can just health conversiom lmao

[zenith forge]

Tbf

You need A LOT of HP orb

[quick stag]

its easier then you think

[zenith forge]

The ever humble lycath hunt:

[quick stag]

iirc health from eqilibrium works too

[zenith forge]

The ever moronic health tank sevagyatt

(now without his defining mechanic because gloom would actually fucking help him for once lmao)

Unironically health tank sevagyatt might actually become really good

Cause what this enables is unlimited energy generation off rage

40/45 energy per 100 HP means at every gate you gain at least 200/225 energy

That's assuming rage stops when the gate shuts off the damage

If rage keeps going while you're under the gate effect?

Infinite energy

Gloom DEFINITELY is gonna be good

[quick stag]

@zenith forge @tranquil rain @blissful palm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHlDOLCMkrM

[zenith forge]

Cause as long as you clear the threshold no matter what you'll always be able to out damage the opponent

[zenith forge]

The fuck is this

[blissful palm]

wuh

huh

[zenith forge]

Tau be so peaceful

Then boom

I happened

[quick stag]

buh

you are not @calm fiber

[zenith forge]

[blissful palm]

i am not it’s true

hai

[zenith forge]

Hi

[quick stag]

Hey

You should play Warframe

[zenith forge]

So uh
Do you play warframe -

DAMMIT BALDIS I WAS GONNA SAY THAT

[quick stag]

I FUCKING LOVEW WARFRAME RAAAARGH

[quick stag]

i should have posted nun lip bite

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/779551641129058355/1447706516726612019/RDT_20251128_230357.mp4?ex=69394202&is=6937f082&hm=cb706ca95db8bde5131d2d424ce4555f4c9dd7f748cefb25068388ccc6cabde6&

[zenith forge]

No you can't open with that that's the-

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE BALDIS LEMME GET A WORD IN

PLEASE

[quick stag]

goodbye Unga McBunGuy

[zenith forge]

Huh

[calm fiber]

HP gate experimentation

oh shit

oh SHIT

oh that's SO SICK

[calm fiber]

for some frames that's gonna be insane

[calm fiber]

aren't oraxia and valkyr able to spit in the face of that one?

[tranquil rain]

Valkyr at the very least can

Don't even need a super good build

[calm fiber]

I heard that full tank oraxia with the right setup is tankier than valkyr

which sounds like bullshit, but it's also insane enough I'm inclined to listen

[zenith forge]

She has a fucktom of HP

[quick stag]

cuz she got more hp

[zenith forge]

So with this if you get her over 700 armor she'll be very hard to kill

[calm fiber]

is the hp difference REALLY so significant it makes up for not having like 6000 or whatever insane armor value valkyr gets to

[zenith forge]

And her 1 gives her a easy out to that

Pooping HP orbs gives her access to health conversion

[calm fiber]

all I remember about valkyr prime's armor values is that they are "yes"

[calm fiber]

oh that's diabolical

okay I see the vision now

so it's not ENTIRELY innate, it requires maintenance, but as long as you keep the ball rolling it keeps going

[zenith forge]

Valkyr and quorvex clear the armor cap innately

[zenith forge]

Gloom is gonna be insane with it

[tranquil rain]

You get like 20k or some shit, it's really funny

[zenith forge]

Unlimited energy off rage

Unlimited HP with lifesteal

[calm fiber]

there's a cap? or is it like a soft cap

I'm ngl to you I think I really like qorvex there's just something slightly off

[tranquil rain]

I think he means the check to get the benefit

[zenith forge]

Nope once you get 700 armor it stops at least from what they showed

[calm fiber]

like I can't figure out how to get damage consistently every time I press 4 I'm playing a guessing game if they'll die or not

[zenith forge]

Form there you purely want HP to get more HP "gates"

[calm fiber]

OH you mean for the arcane

I meant for like, just how armor reduction works in general

[tranquil rain]

Ah

There's no cap

[zenith forge]

His 4 scales best off range

[tranquil rain]

Just reduced returns

[calm fiber]

you know what I just realized

new warframe design is great in the same way old musou design used to be great

[zenith forge]

Each enemy you tag with the lazer causes a chain explosion

Tag lots of enemies they chain explode each other

[calm fiber]

like it's 1 to 1 basically the same philosophy just refined

[zenith forge]

High density=maximum boom

Also your 1 gives extra booms when hit

[calm fiber]

so basically you want to be pressing 4 at times when the most enemies possible are near the enemy you hit with the beam?

.......hey is nidus larva a subsume

[zenith forge]

Yeas but you can spray that shit over everyon

[calm fiber]

because qorvex's clappy hands feel like dogass ngl

[zenith forge]

Yes but quorvex already has 2

Nah it's fine

Put breach surge over 3 trust

And rad procs boosting ability damage archon shards

And universal fallout

And fused crucible

Become unkillable and explode EVERYTHING

[calm fiber]

you might be on to something

I was about to say "I don't like using breach surge it feels like it never reaches enemies" and then I blinked and went "....build range on Qorvex...."

[zenith forge]

Exactly

He loves range

He loves rad procs for fallout

And breach surge and 4 both scale off enemy density

Soooooo

https://tenor.com/view/fallout76-nuke-friends-bomb-nuclear-gif-24994103

[calm fiber]

wait what

have I just spent this entire time in the dark about what breach surge does

I thought it was just a damage taken increase like the thing caliban has

........is wisp not a support frame???

[zenith forge]

Oooooooh nonono

You shoot asshole A, a arc flashes over to asshole B and slams em for a shitton of damage

It comes with a blind

But still

Might also make enemies more vulnerable to crits I think?

[quick stag]

urgent

urgent

also pablo clarification

[zenith forge]

ANOTHER BUFF FOR FROST

Fucker has a primary secondary AND MELEE thing now lmao

[zenith forge]

This sounds interesting but I doubt you'd run it tbh

[quick stag]

only if hitting with quorvex beam counts

wait

its secondary

[zenith forge]

Womp womp

Smite infuse tho

Lavos could prolly use it well with valence

[zenith forge]

OH WAIT EHAT THE FUCK

I didn't read rully

IT DOES WHAT ON ROLL

Primary frostbite is finally viable universally

You tag 4 enemies

instant max stats

[quick stag]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[zenith forge]

This could be mad funny with status spread weapons but the problem is most of em wanna use eneverate

[calm fiber]

wtf is going on with this arg

[calm fiber]

SO BASED

[quick stag]

would this work?

[zenith forge]

Fuck I forget how does that work again

Ik it's different than normal koumeis 3

[reef bridge]

I got my mastery rank to 21 and I'm not sure how I'm going to get the last 9 ranks. It's gonna be tough

[zenith forge]

Nemesis weapons

Hope you've got 5 billion forma lying around

Also 100%ing both star charts helps

Lemme shee

[reef bridge]

Oh yeah, I've barely touched SP map

[zenith forge]

Getting as many base frames also prolly helps

[reef bridge]

Base frames and weapons is what I've been doing up until now but I'm starting to run low on the easy ones

[zenith forge]

Did you do the ones like the ripkas?

You need like dual cleavers and the basic fist weapons to make em

I'm blanking on the name

Ankyros?

I think that

Those are great for leveling mastery cause one goes into the other

Only problem is you ideally wanna plan it out when you have open slots to use

[reef bridge]

Yeah! I always keep stuff until I know it's not a crafting component

[calm fiber]

prioritize warframes and companions as far as primes, more bang per item to get to 30

IIRC the number is that each weapon is 4,000 mastery and each warframe is 6,000 or something like that

companions are 4,000 and their weapons come with another 4,000 IIRC

amps are a thing too

zaws, kitguns

[quick stag]

you got this

open world content is full with MR

[zenith forge]

Open world content is why I'll never hit MR 30 lmao

[quick stag]

nah
a friend of mine HATES open world content and he has gotten to LR3

[zenith forge]

Excellent

[quick stag]

abysmal dogshit

[zenith forge]

Wait the steflos is actually a gaoted gun

Trust

[quick stag]

spreading misinformation

[quick stag]

i hate this so much

[zenith forge]

Multiplicative gunco

Semi cannonade

Incroyable str

[quick stag]

incroyable str?

buh

[quick stag]

eating good today

@zenith forge @calm fiber @tranquil rain Old Piece in 45min

ish

[tranquil rain]

Waow

[zenith forge]

I'm waiting for patch notes cause I got work lmao

They say we got 9 arcanes

I don't think we saw em all

I hope we get new mods too

[tranquil rain]

Similar situation here, in welding classes

[zenith forge]

I hope we get more mods like shivering contagion

[quick stag]

5 are probably for tauran strike

one for each school

[zenith forge]

Nah I think that was not including those ones

That was mine across frames and base weapons

[zenith forge]

Holy fuck

[tranquil rain]

Good lord

[zenith forge]

Also there's a arcane that gives 60% duration after ability cast for 3s

And then there's one that applies 100% of your str buff to shields?

Or smth

Idk what the fuck that means

If that means that applies your STr as a shield multiplier that could lead to some really funny catalyzing shield synergy

Say you run, idk
40% str

Like for a high range build on, oh idk vauban

Y'know as a hypothetical

Then pair that with catalyzing

Assuming it takes your str % as a direct multiplier that means your at 40% shields at base

[tranquil rain]

Uriel looks so sick

[zenith forge]

That by the 1/3rd for cata means you're at 4/30 shield capacity

Or 2/15 or 1/7.5th of your base shields

That

Plus augur or brief respite

Instant shield regen

Gassing your base shields are 300 you go down to 40 shields

1 augur mod gives 40% shields per energy

If you cast a ability with 100 cost you can shield gate forever

But if you're gating you aren't using just 1 mod

Unless it's brief because that'd clear the gate threshold by itself on any ability costing more than 25

The multishot per energy arcane would be great with persistence/gloom low range with rage

New chroma build incoming

I fucking wanted debilitate so long

WHY IS IT A ARCANE ?!?

If it was a mod I could use it with thermal transfer chroma lol

And then get frostbite!

Then again the new melee one seems to help well enough

Irradiate could be good on the larkspur/mandonel

Primaries getting some love with new arcanes is nice cause they had no sauce before

Also I read up on zenuriks tauron

https://tenor.com/view/ssj-goku-sparking-zero-dragon-ball-angry-kamehameha-dragonball-gif-3996383524215522172

Can't wait to angry Kamehameha people

The beam chains

Then it's upgrade give allies books like dante

And then they get beams

Zenurik is the real best one cause it's a callback to the pre war within beam

[calm fiber]

I picked a good God damn day to sleep in hot damn

How we feeling about it

[quick stag]

amazing

also buggy

i cant belive this

i thought thye would learn after 41 other updates

[zenith forge]

Naaaaah

Yous a foooooolish tenno warrior for that

The power of having to play that shit later

Hotfixes!

[quick stag]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

oh right

i should actualy rad patch notes

eto bleh

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

[zenith forge]

Look at this shit

[quick stag]

diabolical

[zenith forge]

THEY DIDNT EVEN SHOW THE BEST ARCANES!

[quick stag]

surely one of them will make artenox good

[zenith forge]

Bulwark on chroma plus gal aptitude trust

Or the multishot one

[quick stag]

goated

+3 titles

thats all i have left to buy

[zenith forge]

Can you grind the descendia drops by repeating the mode or is it limited to weeklies

Like the ignis and the other stuff

[quick stag]

drops are probably weekly

one time drops

@zenith forge @calm fiber iam about to farm gyre

yall wanna join?

[zenith forge]

I gotta go home and download it lol

And then do the old peace

[quick stag]

damn

nvm

we cant even make rad squads

cuz the chat is down

rip trade chat

[calm fiber]

do these count as buffs to heavy weapons 🤔

[calm fiber]

alternox prime numbers looking REALLY EXCITING

[calm fiber]

I just now logged in I'm beelining the story and buying stuff but I'm down to farm alternox FOR SURE later and also gyre

Alternox is my ABSOLUTE favorite gun (that sucks)

I LOVE that fucking thing but it is impossible to make it even slightly servicable

STUG-tier trash

and the prime being good........ SALIVATING

[quick stag]

what 5 relic packs gets you

[quick stag]

i put 6 forma in it

barely killed a lvl 185 heavy grineer

SP

[calm fiber]

this rework is SO GOOD

finally got an operator look I don't feel the need to slap a mask over

[quick stag]

https://tenor.com/view/we-gotta-go-bald-gif-8637027642657214077

we gotta go bald

[quick stag]

what are the servers views on saucy images?

[zenith forge]

Did old peace and the first 14 floors of descendia

I think you can rerun the descendia missions to grind malphecia and ignis from crates

[calm fiber]

@zenith forge invite was an accident but you can join if you want, we're gonna do new missions to get the focus upgrades

[zenith forge]

im doing descendia solo

[calm fiber]

kk

[zenith forge]

Ngl

Uriel may be the easiest new frame grind in the game and that's fantastic

[reef bridge]

That's exciting. I can't wait to get him

[quick stag]

got it and helmith in about 30min

crazy

[zenith forge]

just when you thought

||surely he can't get worse||

https://tenor.com/view/extremely-loud-incorrect-buzzer-buzzer-sound-buzzer-jarvis-play-the-extremely-loud-incorrect-buzzer-sound-jarvis-gif-4937353270264763123

Unironically I think if you have a friend to carry you through, or get a goated setup early on Uriel may be one of the easiest early game frames to get

[calm fiber]

Depending on definition and aside from boss farms noko is up there too for sure as far as power frames

I've been playing around with uriel and he is so fucking beast

You can really feel the mission objective was for him to be as busted as reasonably possible

He has what I can only believe to be the best nuke 4 in the game per press, engaging gameplay to fill it, immortality so long as you're active with him and have energy to spend, practically autopilot mobility, built in small scale CC

He exudes violence. I love him.

Anyone know how to get his stance?

And if anyone is interested in relic farming or elite Archimedea etc let me know

I need the alternox post haste and need that sweet night wave 7k

[quick stag]

whats yoir timezone?

[calm fiber]

I'm dealing with a mouse that invaded my room and a sleep disorder so my time zone is less relevant than you'd think

[quick stag]

i see

[calm fiber]

Also I typo'd

The stance

As in the bayonet one

[quick stag]

you can get it from descendia

i already got it

[calm fiber]

Oh sick

Worth running that several times the same week then? Already planned to help a friend through, but y'know

[quick stag]

well yeah
thats how you get shop currency to buy arcanes i think

[calm fiber]

Wasn't sure if you kept getting decent rewards or not

[calm fiber]

Oh shit

How does loot xaku work even lmao I've never built for it or done it before myself just heard

[quick stag]

just range

his untime ability(4) can break containers

[calm fiber]

thanks for sharing, getting in there

oh they done reset the rewards

wait no I just already did steel path and not normal lmao

[quick stag]

its another weekly

[zenith forge]

Well you need to beat new war to get his area

I could see them keeping it this week to let people grind the new arcanes, then remove it

Or just make the loot room super rare

I wanna bring limbo but that's gonna be rouge for survival

Honestly I hope they keep the arcanes this cheap

https://youtu.be/XsjujfAkxss?si=-_4Tr91qAoUzUgIU

This plus larkspur plus secondary irradiate could go so unfathomably stupid

All of the sudden arcane truculence priming with viral weaponry sounds very good

[zenith forge]

Yeah ngl I don't think I'm gonna touch perita rebellion that much until the event goes live

[zenith forge]

Apparently you get 10 of the drop you need for the tauron strike per mission (plus bonuses per objective you do)

And you need the three resources

[calm fiber]

yup

it's intense

I've done a lot and still don't have enough for one

[zenith forge]

Assuming you beat the boss in 3 min it's 15 min for 10, maybe 15 if you lock in

You need 150 of EACH resource for EACH weapon

That's 10-15 runs of one mission

Each being 15 min

That's at the bare minimum nearly 4 HOURS for enough parts from a SPECIFIC RESOURCE THAT YOU NEED 3 DIFFERENT OF

Ngl time gated modes are the worst part in Warframe rn

And I don't mean like weeklies or whatever

The modes where you just run out the clock are the worst to grind and having a mode that requires you to run it that much while running the clock that long really are unfortunate

Actually I wonder if this is why the descendia arcanes are so easy to get

Cause like descendia entirely stands against that ideas perita poses for its grind
Each floor is fast to run, can be gamed to run fast-er, and you are encouraged to go faster cause the faster you go the more you can loop it and the more you loop it the more arcanes and goodies you can get quicker

Like DE saw how much of a pain in the balls perita is and were like "yeah let's throw em a bone lmao"

Like unironically descendia FEELS like a really solid balance of difficulty

It's not easy but it's also not super hard and the fact not all the missions are high velocity violence and they actually give you some easy freebie missions is super nice for extended missions like this

Like Smth like deep archimedia you're constantly on edge cause you can just instantly die, but here you have breather missions (checkpoints/kaithe target section with no timer/ and the parkour challenge that's pretty easy, among others) to slow down a bit which is good for the mental

Unironically I wish there was a endless version of it that was randomly generated with objectives and modifiers

[calm fiber]

Huge fan of all this update's stuff ngl

[zenith forge]

Oh the update is great

I just wish perita was less of a pain

And even then it's not really that bad, it's entirely down to the tauron strikes taking forever to get

Unironically my least favorite part of the update is how aggressively French Marie is

She has an entire line in French and I dunno what she says in it at all because I don't speak French

I need the lore dammit

[calm fiber]

Luv Marie <3

[zenith forge]

Ngl roathe is a really fun character

[calm fiber]

I don't regret getting this pack

[zenith forge]

||I walked into the cathedral the first time and was like "I wanna punch this guy in the face so fucking badly"

Low and behold, I get to do that as much as I want with my shotgun and beam saber greatsword||

[calm fiber]

Wait which great sword is that

[zenith forge]

||the fact he has unique lines on refights is peak, by round 20 he practically begs you not to beat his ass lmao||

[zenith forge]

War

[calm fiber]

Peak

Wish heavy melee were better tbh

[zenith forge]

Got a really good setup on it

[calm fiber]

Hammers never recovered 😔

[zenith forge]

CC and CD

With galv steel it hits 107Cc with a 7X CD multi

Slap on duplicate

[calm fiber]

Strong suspicion the bayonet will underwhelm

[zenith forge]

||Idk from what you use of it in the quest it feels strong||

40% base CC is NUTS

Grinding rivs for it is gonna suck tho lmao

[calm fiber]

I guess I'm mostly just suspicious because every single new melee weapon class ever has been dog shit on release and the second or third is finally good

[zenith forge]

As long as it's not like dual handed nikanas having a bad walk forward melee combo sting it'll be fine

Tempo royale GS is great for a REASON

[calm fiber]

Ghoulsaw, gun blades, rapiers, warfans, dual Nikana, big Nikana, heavy scythe

That's just what I personally witnessed off the top of my head

[zenith forge]

Gun blades aren't bad bad

[calm fiber]

They aren't NOW

Base redeemer was a gimmick meme weapon on release

Sarpa has never been good

Vastilok and redeemer prime are solid

[zenith forge]

Literally the only problem with the big katana is their walk forward and standing combo should be flipped

The walk forward keeping you stationary but the standing still one launching you forward is stupid

[calm fiber]

My memory is that tatsu was garbage on release and pennant was baller

Extends to guns too, though not as consistently

Spearguns for instance

Javlok is ass

Incarnons are the big exception, juiced out the gate. Very nice

Hespar is ass, corufell is ok

Destreza bad on launch, that status rapier even worse, the prime is okay

If this gun bucks the trend I'd be happy for it to I'm just not holding my breath y'know

[quick stag]

15min adventure

[zenith forge]

What's the distribution on part rarity for the alternox Prime?

Like how many commons, uncommons, rates?

[quick stag]

2 rares

1 uncommon 1 common

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Fucken hell de

Why

What about Gyre

[quick stag]

regular

1:1:1

uhh

vm

nvm

i cant rememberr

okey

1 rare 2 uncommon 1 common

for gyre prime

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Not too bad

Ngl prime weapons are so much harder to sell

Purely cause of the steeper MR reqs on them

Also did you see the prime vanguard thing?

For the resurgence

As I understand it they drop relics which exclusively contain the prime parts for one frame

Planning on getting as many mesa relics as possible

That or they're gonna be relics that exclusively contain the 6 of their prime parts

Which they could definitely do cause each frame has 4 drop between the six of them, but then there's six drops per relic, so assuming you do one per tier you get a even 4 relics, one per tier

Does kinda suck that 2/6 literally just released within the year

Also some frames are definitely gonna see a ducat price drop to make em fit cause they can't have more than 4 rare drops between all the relics

[quick stag]

its gonna be new relics probably

2 prime parts and their weapons meshed together

cuz iirc its 6 or 8 frames that are coming with the resurgence

thats why protea is there

they wanted caliban to be included and os they picked another warframe that is unvaulted to use it in resurgence relics

[quick stag]

just make more relics

easy

[quick stag]

you can rope me into this venture too

i got like 50 aya i can spend

cant have too many egg baskets

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Idk the way I read it it sounded like it was going to be pretty exclusive or Smth

[quick stag]

iirc correctly all of the resurgnce relics are made brand new

cuz usually they are available in between 5 other frames

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I was selling stuff earlier to gift people stuff for tennobaum

I am now left with 20p to my name as of gifting my friend (a wisp main) a very specific skin

[quick stag]

i bought wisps prime syandana

so i need ot get use out of it before i get a new skin

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https://youtu.be/VIybem-t7qs?si=-D0H0fvCvkpe8EPQ

[quick stag]

GET BACK HERE BALLAS! BALLAAAASSSSS! YOU CAN’T ESCAPE ME! I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH

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||the fact that uriel is the demon frame and as such he's used to show the tenno giving into their shadow is a great bit of storytelling/gameplay synergy, the fact it sounds like doom music is just icing on the cake||

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Someone needs to make a redraw of that meme with uriel

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Ngl ||I thought this was gonna be the canonical part of the story where margulis gets her eyeballs fried by our operator||

||the fact margulis is implied to be somewhat complicit to restarting the war is INSANE lore BTW||

[quick stag]

I'am watching this youtubers playthrough of warframe

and its so nice, so hype, so theraputic to see another person engage in a warframe story at such details

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR9QCy3MDyw&list=PLaWYFSfffVW6lwpahHOyTIFCCq5u96cmh&index=2

mf is making pseudo wiki based on things he learns in game

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Nice

[quick stag]

while watching i learned a lot of new things

like did you know that lotus mentions "radiation wars" when we find infested for first time?